Thank you for the review. I realize this is an apples and oranges comparison but I am more excited about this media player than the new Kscape offering.
Rumor is these new units have Plex, Emby, and Jellyfin apps built and supported by Zidoo. Also, the music player v8 is supposed to be much improved over v7.
Check the Zidoo forums. There's been versions of those apps that work on older Zidoo players but nothing officially supported by the manufacturer themselves. I've been a Plex user for 16yrs and while its great for TV's and sharing, the picture and video quality of Zidoo player in my dedicated cinema room night/day difference over what Plex can produce. Also Plex doesn't support ISO for BD menu's. The Realtek chipset in the older Zidoo players also support 3D, even though it's mostly a dead format at this point.
@@BryanLydia I knew there was a workaround but I figure this should be better. But I still use the Zidoo to play my local collection. Plex is for something else.
No streaming apps? Such a bummer. I was hoping for a higher quality hardware than my ATV to listen to Apple Music and to watch movies via Netflix, Hulu, Prime, and Plex. Also how do we buy this in the U.S.? I clicked on all the links under Shop and I don't see it.
Apparently I’m wrong. It will support Apple Music and you can download apps but you need to sideload the App Store and run it unverified (at least from instructions on their site). Also I just ordered it from an online dealer in the uk.
@@crventura you're joking right? I already have the unit installed in my system. I bought it for the Dolby Atmos music streaming capability with Apple Music and better video processing for home media. I've been using Plex and a NAS for the last 5 years and having been building HTPCs since the 2000s. I'm the target audience, LOL. This device would be even better if it supported video streaming services. Right now I have to switch btw my Apple TV and the UHD8000 which is inconvenient. I have over 20k invested in my home theater system in a 7.2.4 system. I just had installers put in dolby atmos overhead speakers in my ceiling. I'm an audiophile and videophile. Don't make assumptions about use cases.
The Interstellar 4K Vs Upscaled 8K did have some Noticeable difference.... Imagine we get movies that were Shot at 8K and has an 8K Digital Intermediate...with a large enough screen, it would be a blast to watch
Is there a setting for the prioritization of the audio output, based on the content? Like it is automatically using the analogue XLR for audio only (stereo music files) and HDMI multichannel output for movies? Or is it at least possible to switch the output manually, via the remote from XLR to HDMI with a single press of a button? That would be very convenient for the use of profiles with my Logitech Harmony Elite.
I have an 8K60 playback device so I would like to know if this one actually supports 8K plus HDR. I have another device that claims to support 8K but once it reaches 8K, it will only play 8K SDR. HDR is only supported up to 4K. My display will play 8K HDR on UA-cam using the built-in app so I would be interested in knowing if this one plays it also in 8KHDR?
Hi, Greetings !! I want to use uhd 8000 with my soundbar & LG C3. Kindly help with one clarity . My soundbar doesn't have extra hdmi in ports , only eARC. So if I connect the main hdmi & audio only hdmi outs of the 8000 to C3 hdmi in as C3 has 4 hdmi 2.1 in. Then connect C3 eARC to soundbar eARC, will it work ? This is the only confusion I have . Response would be highly appreciated. With Gratitude
Great review I weighed up my needs vs player feature set. I went for the R_Volution 8K player one. There are many feature on the Zidoo I will never use eg on board DAC and balanced outputs. Hence no point paying for something I will never use. I also think the UI on the French player is more user friendly.
Thanks Shane for the review. Very informative and it convinced me to buy it mainly for the dolby atmos music capability through Apple Music. Do you know if you can create profiles? I plan on switching sources frequently: Hdmi main for video, Hdmi audio for Apple Music dolby atmos, DSD, and hi-rez music playback, and XLR/RCA for 2 channel music playback. I hate the idea of having to constantly switch the output source from settings.
Спасибо за ролик! Почему на 8000 не имеется функции Screen ratio как на Neo Alpha? Очень удобно на экране 2.35. Как вы думаете, могут это добавить с обновлением?
Pre-ordered the Z9X 8K as I don‘t need all the additional features of the UHD8000. The only feature I am missing on the Z9X 8K is the rack mount option of the UHD8000… but paying 5 or 6 times as much (1000 bucks+) definitely is not worth it. 😂
As a fellow JVC NZ (NZ9) owner, I'm interested in upgrading from my Z2000 to this. The only road block to 8K usage for me and many owners is the use of a Lumagen video processor that simply can't pass 8K. Would be really interesting for someone to properly compare the 8K upscaling and AI processing to JVC 8K E-shift.
Shane, great review! Can you confirm movie wall info. isn't kept on a server, you mentioned the cache and the reason you keep it on, but wanted to make sure... Thx
When I found out about this device, I was more than delighted, and then after watching a few reviews, my enthusiasm melted away! The first disappointment was that it only reads hard disks up to 16 TB, and the second reason why this device was removed from the wish list is the inability to support 3D movies! the horror! ZIDOO, why such a stupid decision!?!? I have over 500 movies in 3D format on my hard drive and I know there are many more of us who love 3D movies! I am very disappointed! 😭
Great to see one of these get reviewed! Considering upgrading from my UHD3000 for double ram, new chipset, 4K UI and AI upscaling features. Curious how picture quality stacks up against Kaleidescape media player.
I think that really depends on the source media. Kaleidescape is the best you can get as a consumer. UHD is usually identical to K although there are some exceptions. So if you’re ripping UHD’s uncompressed than it should be the same although no where near as convenient, which is why I chose Kaleidescape for my movie needs.
I wouldn’t ever rely on a company for watching from. They had gone bust once before and they can again. Why pay for hardware and then you never own the media on it? Plus you have a time limit to watch it and it’s just too expensive for what it is. Just doesn’t make sense to me.
There's a time limit on rentals as everyone knows. If you buy a movie on Kscape you can watch it for as long as you have a player. They've been around 20 years and I've had mine for 7yrs. Zero issues with watching anything.
@@therealshanelee They have gone bust once before and they could again. It is a nice system to have, but you only own the hardware, not the movies, etc. I personally like to own everything and be in control of my home cinema. There are pros and cons in everything electronics.
@@richardkUK8764 I remember they did for about a day and they were back the following day with no interruption in service. If I didn't read the email I would never had known. And if they were in dire straights they wouldn't be releasing new hardware. But playing devils advocate, IF they ever were to go out of business you would still own your movies that reside in the internal drives.
I just checked out the website and the pricing as well. This is honestly at a really great price for the specs you get on either versions. Good stuff Brian for connecting with this company. Amazing specs and Video/Audio Supported files and CODECS for the pricing.
Can you confirm if this new box can download Portuguese subtitles? i have the zidoo z9x and z9x pro and since last year even with the latest beta firmware you cant download portuguese subtitles, english subtitles work fine through, zidoo are great boxes but very disappointing firmware support
@@blenkybellendo I thought maybe they had changed that in the new model. My dumb arse bought a Z9J from Sony and didnt realize it cant play 8K, only upscale, which actually looks worse than 4K TVs. Ive been searching for an 8K UA-cam playing device since. I tried my computer, but even with a RTX3050 it still drops frames using the 8K HDMI input on the Sony. They lied about the PS5 being able to output 8K as well. Should have bought a Samsung.
But I assume you can use a USB hub to connect multiple hard drives? I have 8x 20tb connected to my NVIDIA Shield Pro but am thinking of upgrading to this.
You can can purchase from futeko, but the first batch allocations are already sold out with 2nd allocation coming soon. Shane that stinger at the end, ouch you did not have to be so cruel. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
There is still stock for the cheaper Zidoo Z9X 8K. Video playback is exactly the same as has same SoC and interface. Main difference is that it has no HDD slots.
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Great products overall, I wish I had one but their licensing problems is a dealbreaker for me because I’m. not into building an entire home lab to stream and play the latest and greatest. More useful apps and licenses and will be truly the king.
I had the Z3000, and it was great, but I decided to try the 8000. I can't say it is better than the 3000 for movies since it has the same CPU and RAM, but it sure looks cooler, lol. Honestly I did not think many people did 3D anymore. It has always sucked at home. When was the last time a movie came out in 3D?
Nice review. I have a Sony Z9K. It's an 85 inch 8k tv. Was looking into getting this unit. What tuned me off was. The UI needs to be polished more. Was hoping it would be on par with Plex. Also there was no 8K youtube support playback nor Netflix. Finally, those devices can be side loaded with malicious code; which can comprise you data. Becarful. Security is questionable.
This device is intended to be used with its included feature set. Folks shouldn't be upset it doesn't function properly with side loaded unsupported apps.
Thanks for review Chipset for these new boxes doesn't support 3D, so its never going to happen, Its not a Zidoo issue.. its the chipset manufacturer unfortunately
I think you need a 4K drive in conjunction with ripping software , i.e makemkv, then transfer them from your p.c to the zidoo (zidoos sata drive) There’s an uploader on UA-cam called, “2guyztech” they have a few videos on it 👍
Shane, C'mon Man! R_volution and Zappiti are TWO different companies. While this player has some nice features, that bizarre upside down display and NO 3D Playback will be a deal breaker for me. Knowing that you are a BIG 3D fan, I'm surprised that you are giving this player so much love.
If this is like the Zidoo 1619DR and 1619BPD Players they should have 80-90% of the bugs worked out 18 months after launch and then basically abandon it for the next chipset leaving a mostly functional but still buggy experience. Basing this on my personal experience as an early adopter of the Z9X and Z9X Pro.
Lol shield is over rated , its only good for streaming apps i have 2 of them you just cant compare with zidoo media boxes , its jud different the shield is so old that theres no updates snd the price for one is lile $200 bucks thered deff better media local players out there , for the price id buy a zidoo which i hsve ss well and to me it blows shield out of the water night and day
The most important part of this video is showing how to get the movies on there? Can you purchase them? Do you hook up an external drive to this? How do you put hard drives in them? Storage Capacity? I have watched so many videos over the years and this product still seems like it doesn't really do anything??? I have had Kaleidescapes and getting movies on it was super easy. If this is just some chinese pirating thing, then I will give it a hard pass.
I don't understand why this is any better than a 300 dollar computer. With my computer I can play back Blu rays In Dolby Atmos, I can play back SACD's in their original DSD format. I have one main coumputer and 2 small 250 dollar computers networked together. I have everything stored on a hardrive . I've converted DVDA's to 5.1 and 7.1 flac files. There are no limitations to what formats I can play back.
@@neeko18 actually you don’t have to install updates. They’re just to make things more secure when you’re connected to the internet, but then again, who knows your pc exists and you only more likely to get a virus with sites that have viruses. It aways works out cheaper to build your own, than buying a player, like the Panasonic DP-UB9000. I’ve also built my own and a server too.
After over a decade of building and setting up HTPC's (with MadVR, MPC-BE, Kodi, etc), these current day media boxes just bring a level of simplicity that's still not there with HTPCs. The ability to play a large variety of files with so little fuss in your home theater or living room setup is really appealing. I literally don't use my HTPC in two of my theater setups for video any more, just really running EZBEQ for my subs and doing software updates for my video processors. I can also much more easily integrate these media boxes into an A/V system for easy access and control by anyone who wants to use the system. For me having Zidoos and Apple TV's, covers everything I want between file playback from NAS to Streaming services.
No 3D makes this a brick to many home theater enthusiasts... For me I will never buy home theater players with an incomplete featureset. A PC connected to my TV can play every format under the sun, *including* full-res frame-packed 3D, so I'm not sure why someone would pay extra for this.
What GPU are you using in your PC that does 3D, and what display? My TV is a Panasonic plasma from 2010. I don't know what I'm going to do for 3D if it dies. But I want to build a quality PC that can do 3D anyway
I love 3D as a projector owner and I have had no problems playing 3D ISO back on my Z2000. This is mainly only if I haven't got a disc copy of something and last check literally less than a handful of titles. It definitely sucks that the 8000 no longer supports 3D, but definitely far from a deal breaker. I know if I got desparate to play something back I could easy plug in my spare Z9X and use that.
Wow! Sending a defective demo unit with an upside down screen for review. How embarassing and very unreassuring. Not talking for myself since I own the UHD5000 and I love it. Oh, amd my 5000 does 3D very well.
I bought one of these. The software / firmware is HORRIBLE (just go look at the forums and all the issues literally everyone is having). This product is NOT ready for public release as of late Sept 2024. Mine repeatedly crashes and is unusable for many of the features it's sold as having. At this point, save yourself the money and headache and buy something else.
For local media playback, impossible to beat the Ugoos AM6B+ with CoreELEC right now. Full dual-layer TV-led DV, plus all other HDR formats. HD audio of course, and of late full 3D MVC! Only thing it can't do is AV1 playback.
Am I the only one who gets the BS behind the "8K" marketing ploy? I mean, "8K UHD"? Isn't that a contradiction in terms?? UHD is by definition less resolution than full 4K, so therefore true 8K is way WAY beyond UHD..... Theoretically 8K is possible down the road but first streaming needs to get to full 4K before they can even think about 8K.
And by extension I am also putting 8K displays on notice. Sure they are future proof...theoretically. But....there is nothing in streaming or physical Media that can play in 8K let alone full 4k. If you have a camera that can record in 8K and can connect it directly to your 8K TV this is the only way one can actually watch anything in 8K for now
@@therealshanelee That’s being lazy, haha. Come on I’ve seen you build things on here. That’s the fun of it all. It’s just way too expensive for what it is. But if you have the money and your old, then perhaps yes. I guess that you’re paying for the other things, like it coming out earlier than it does on disc or at the cinema, un-cut versions, etc, etc.
@@richardkUK8764 that's not being lazy. Some folks don't want to bother ripping their movies. It's a legit hassle and every movie doesn't always rip. I for one hate doing it while others don't mind. Depends on your needs.
Said it before but your production quality is great. Music, vid quality, all of it has a professional vibe. Much appreciated bro!
Good review Shane!!
Thanks for the review.
Nice, I might look at picking one of these up
Nice review Shane! Too bad there's no 3D support.
Thank you for the review. I realize this is an apples and oranges comparison but I am more excited about this media player than the new Kscape offering.
Well it's definitely more work involved in getting movies on this device. Depends on your needs.
3:15 Small nitpicky nerd correction: 480p ;)
Rumor is these new units have Plex, Emby, and Jellyfin apps built and supported by Zidoo. Also, the music player v8 is supposed to be much improved over v7.
I’m curious about Plex also. I’d love to see how that works and maybe help retire my shield.
@@danielwander605 same
Check the Zidoo forums. There's been versions of those apps that work on older Zidoo players but nothing officially supported by the manufacturer themselves. I've been a Plex user for 16yrs and while its great for TV's and sharing, the picture and video quality of Zidoo player in my dedicated cinema room night/day difference over what Plex can produce. Also Plex doesn't support ISO for BD menu's. The Realtek chipset in the older Zidoo players also support 3D, even though it's mostly a dead format at this point.
@@BryanLydia I knew there was a workaround but I figure this should be better. But I still use the Zidoo to play my local collection. Plex is for something else.
That new r.volution mini may be a better option. Great vid.
Hey Shane, great content. Do you own this or just reviewing? How are you ripping 4K UHD movies for using with this?
you said you were going to the bluray menu but immediately switched away. Does it display bluray menus properly or not?
I have a UHD3000 & love it - dual bay is a must + high res Dac 😂
No streaming apps? Such a bummer. I was hoping for a higher quality hardware than my ATV to listen to Apple Music and to watch movies via Netflix, Hulu, Prime, and Plex. Also how do we buy this in the U.S.? I clicked on all the links under Shop and I don't see it.
Apparently I’m wrong. It will support Apple Music and you can download apps but you need to sideload the App Store and run it unverified (at least from instructions on their site). Also I just ordered it from an online dealer in the uk.
This player is not for you. Get one of the cheaper models, still overkill for the formats you're aiming, but will save you some doe ...
@@crventura you're joking right? I already have the unit installed in my system. I bought it for the Dolby Atmos music streaming capability with Apple Music and better video processing for home media. I've been using Plex and a NAS for the last 5 years and having been building HTPCs since the 2000s. I'm the target audience, LOL. This device would be even better if it supported video streaming services. Right now I have to switch btw my Apple TV and the UHD8000 which is inconvenient. I have over 20k invested in my home theater system in a 7.2.4 system. I just had installers put in dolby atmos overhead speakers in my ceiling. I'm an audiophile and videophile. Don't make assumptions about use cases.
Your movie collection is almost identical to mine! LOL
Thanks for this review Shane. Are you able to tell me the difference in experience and quality compared to using Kodi on my NVIDIA Shield Pro?
The Interstellar 4K Vs Upscaled 8K did have some Noticeable difference....
Imagine we get movies that were Shot at 8K and has an 8K Digital Intermediate...with a large enough screen, it would be a blast to watch
Is there a setting for the prioritization of the audio output, based on the content? Like it is automatically using the analogue XLR for audio only (stereo music files) and HDMI multichannel output for movies? Or is it at least possible to switch the output manually, via the remote from XLR to HDMI with a single press of a button? That would be very convenient for the use of profiles with my Logitech Harmony Elite.
Oh wow, no 3d? That blows. Guess I'll wait for the 5000 to drop in price because this one is coming out and get that one.
@spazoq no 3D is a deal breaker for me
nice & comprehensive review as usual. Thanks
Did you have the chance to test the Zidoo against the R_volution one8k?
@therealshanelee
Are you using the Zidoo with a Scope screen? (2.35:1 or 2.4:1) Where in the setting do you change the screen type? Thanks.
I have an 8K60 playback device so I would like to know if this one actually supports 8K plus HDR. I have another device that claims to support 8K but once it reaches 8K, it will only play 8K SDR. HDR is only supported up to 4K. My display will play 8K HDR on UA-cam using the built-in app so I would be interested in knowing if this one plays it also in 8KHDR?
i don;t think so bro. its only support HDR up to 4K not 8K, because no sources movie film available right now only up to 4K HDR
Can you use Tidal Connect to play Dolby Atmos audio from your phone on Tidal?
Good question. I don't have Tidal connect to try.
Hi,
Greetings !!
I want to use uhd 8000 with my soundbar & LG C3.
Kindly help with one clarity .
My soundbar doesn't have extra hdmi in ports , only eARC.
So if I connect the main hdmi & audio only hdmi outs of the 8000 to C3 hdmi in as C3 has 4 hdmi 2.1 in.
Then connect C3 eARC to soundbar eARC, will it work ?
This is the only confusion I have .
Response would be highly appreciated.
With Gratitude
Great review I weighed up my needs vs player feature set. I went for the R_Volution 8K player one.
There are many feature on the Zidoo I will never use eg on board DAC and balanced outputs.
Hence no point paying for something I will never use.
I also think the UI on the French player is more user friendly.
I’ve used both. Zidoo is the better player for a little more. Ui is quicker and it has better audio.
Where to download all these movies any premium service and login tell me
Thanks Shane for the review. Very informative and it convinced me to buy it mainly for the dolby atmos music capability through Apple Music. Do you know if you can create profiles? I plan on switching sources frequently: Hdmi main for video, Hdmi audio for Apple Music dolby atmos, DSD, and hi-rez music playback, and XLR/RCA for 2 channel music playback. I hate the idea of having to constantly switch the output source from settings.
I was expected you to speak about the picture quality.
Спасибо за ролик! Почему на 8000 не имеется функции Screen ratio как на Neo Alpha? Очень удобно на экране 2.35. Как вы думаете, могут это добавить с обновлением?
Pre-ordered the Z9X 8K as I don‘t need all the additional features of the UHD8000. The only feature I am missing on the Z9X 8K is the rack mount option of the UHD8000… but paying 5 or 6 times as much (1000 bucks+) definitely is not worth it. 😂
Better power supply, better audio output, better DAC, internal drive bays, rack mountable. I'd say the price difference is definitely worth it.
How much does it cost?
As a fellow JVC NZ (NZ9) owner, I'm interested in upgrading from my Z2000 to this. The only road block to 8K usage for me and many owners is the use of a Lumagen video processor that simply can't pass 8K. Would be really interesting for someone to properly compare the 8K upscaling and AI processing to JVC 8K E-shift.
Shane, great review!
Can you confirm movie wall info. isn't kept on a server, you mentioned the cache and the reason you keep it on, but wanted to make sure...
Thx
Looks like one of the new generation Android boxes with the custom Zidoo software.
No 3d? 🤨
When I found out about this device, I was more than delighted, and then after watching a few reviews, my enthusiasm melted away! The first disappointment was that it only reads hard disks up to 16 TB, and the second reason why this device was removed from the wish list is the inability to support 3D movies! the horror! ZIDOO, why such a stupid decision!?!? I have over 500 movies in 3D format on my hard drive and I know there are many more of us who love 3D movies! I am very disappointed! 😭
Great to see one of these get reviewed! Considering upgrading from my UHD3000 for double ram, new chipset, 4K UI and AI upscaling features. Curious how picture quality stacks up against Kaleidescape media player.
I think that really depends on the source media. Kaleidescape is the best you can get as a consumer. UHD is usually identical to K although there are some exceptions. So if you’re ripping UHD’s uncompressed than it should be the same although no where near as convenient, which is why I chose Kaleidescape for my movie needs.
I wouldn’t ever rely on a company for watching from. They had gone bust once before and they can again. Why pay for hardware and then you never own the media on it? Plus you have a time limit to watch it and it’s just too expensive for what it is. Just doesn’t make sense to me.
There's a time limit on rentals as everyone knows. If you buy a movie on Kscape you can watch it for as long as you have a player. They've been around 20 years and I've had mine for 7yrs. Zero issues with watching anything.
@@therealshanelee They have gone bust once before and they could again. It is a nice system to have, but you only own the hardware, not the movies, etc. I personally like to own everything and be in control of my home cinema. There are pros and cons in everything electronics.
@@richardkUK8764 I remember they did for about a day and they were back the following day with no interruption in service. If I didn't read the email I would never had known. And if they were in dire straights they wouldn't be releasing new hardware. But playing devils advocate, IF they ever were to go out of business you would still own your movies that reside in the internal drives.
If I want to rip my 4k blurays. Do I need a computer for it or can I use my samsung tablet?
I just checked out the website and the pricing as well. This is honestly at a really great price for the specs you get on either versions. Good stuff Brian for connecting with this company. Amazing specs and Video/Audio Supported files and CODECS for the pricing.
I couldn't find a price... how much is it?
Who?
Can you confirm if this new box can download Portuguese subtitles? i have the zidoo z9x and z9x pro and since last year even with the latest beta firmware you cant download portuguese subtitles, english subtitles work fine through, zidoo are great boxes but very disappointing firmware support
Can I hook up an external SDD for this player to play movies just like the nvidia shield ?
It's shown in the video.
Nice ! Is there an audio synchronisation adjustment setting ?
It does not.
Does it have a UA-cam app that play 8K HDR UA-cam videos AV1 codec to a Sony 8K TV?
I doubt it as Zidoo players are for local media - they don't play well with streaming media. I have current model but upgrading to new one.
@@blenkybellendo I thought maybe they had changed that in the new model. My dumb arse bought a Z9J from Sony and didnt realize it cant play 8K, only upscale, which actually looks worse than 4K TVs. Ive been searching for an 8K UA-cam playing device since. I tried my computer, but even with a RTX3050 it still drops frames using the 8K HDMI input on the Sony. They lied about the PS5 being able to output 8K as well. Should have bought a Samsung.
What is the largest size internal hdd that it will support
16 TB.
But I assume you can use a USB hub to connect multiple hard drives? I have 8x 20tb connected to my NVIDIA Shield Pro but am thinking of upgrading to this.
Hi Shane, is the menu navigation muh much faster? IT looks lightning quick compared to the old Zidoos but wnated to verify.
It's a little quicker.
Hey Shane, you mentioned streaming content. Can you use this device as an all-around streamer in additional to playback of local content?
This is not designed to be a streaming device.
Hi Shane have you tried the Sony Theatre Quad? I'd be interested to hear your thoughts and how it compares with a traditional hone theatre.
Soon
You can can purchase from futeko, but the first batch allocations are already sold out with 2nd allocation coming soon.
Shane that stinger at the end, ouch you did not have to be so cruel. 🤣🤣🤣🤣
There is still stock for the cheaper Zidoo Z9X 8K. Video playback is exactly the same as has same SoC and interface. Main difference is that it has no HDD slots.
So this player will play back True Dolby (Atmos) even if I rip my 4K disc as an MKV?
Yes
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The nvidia shield with plex doesnt support 8k, but seems to be the best solution for the rest.
Great products overall, I wish I had one but their licensing problems is a dealbreaker for me because I’m. not into building an entire home lab to stream and play the latest and greatest. More useful apps and licenses and will be truly the king.
This device is meant for backed up media. It is not meant as a streaming service device. Get an Apple TV for that.
@ Indeed, makes more sense.
Is the library you walked through all 4K Blu-ray rips?
I did have fight club in the demo.
Does anyone know if you can connect a Nas to this as well to watch movies ?
Yes
Shane .. how is the fan noise ?
The room it’s in is always 55 degrees so it’s barely audible.
interesting, just a litle demo.more ram?
CAN you play 8k upscale movie on 4k projector ?
That's like putting 2 gallons of milk in a 1 gallon bottle.
@@therealshaneleeyes but we can play 12 bits video on 10bits projector. Maybe can did the same and get a better image quality
I had the Z3000, and it was great, but I decided to try the 8000. I can't say it is better than the 3000 for movies since it has the same CPU and RAM, but it sure looks cooler, lol. Honestly I did not think many people did 3D anymore. It has always sucked at home. When was the last time a movie came out in 3D?
One thing I don't understand is the upside down display. Why?
@@JulioCSolar Unquality Control
No 3D playback?
Well done!
👍
Now see this makes sense. It’s affordable too
I just see the point in anything that’s 8K, because there won’t be any pre-recorded (movie) 8k discs
Zidoo didn't actually "get rid of 3d support" the new chips that are being used do not support it like the older video chips did.
What are you saying?😂. Doesn't make any sense
How about vs old guy nvidia shield tv pro
Nice review. I have a Sony Z9K. It's an 85 inch 8k tv. Was looking into getting this unit. What tuned me off was. The UI needs to be polished more. Was hoping it would be on par with Plex. Also there was no 8K youtube support playback nor Netflix. Finally, those devices can be side loaded with malicious code; which can comprise you data. Becarful. Security is questionable.
@rmoore6471 I would try prevent this from phoning home. Also curious about security issues
This device is intended to be used with its included feature set. Folks shouldn't be upset it doesn't function properly with side loaded unsupported apps.
@@therealshanelee you miss interpreted my statement. I'm not saying I'm disappointed with not being able to side load apps..
Thanks for review Chipset for these new boxes doesn't support 3D, so its never going to happen, Its not a Zidoo issue.. its the chipset manufacturer unfortunately
I see a new PLEX Server in my Black Friday Future.
"The Media Player to get"
Ok, but how to I play my beloved 3D movies?
Absolute no-go for me.
Get the previous generation and don't break the bank by getting the Z9X Pro
But how do I get my 4k collection digitized and onto a hard drive??
I think you need a 4K drive in conjunction with ripping software , i.e makemkv, then transfer them from your p.c to the zidoo (zidoos sata drive)
There’s an uploader on UA-cam called, “2guyztech” they have a few videos on it 👍
MakeMKV and DVDFab are commonly used for media backup.
Sorry bud! I left some basic instructions/ advice but my comment got deleted 🤷♂️
I have a supervisor server running unraid with 13 drives handling all my media needs. Ripping blurays is pretty quick now with a medium spec PC
MakeMKV
Can anyone confirm whether you can access internal drives from windows?
Yes you can.
Shane, C'mon Man! R_volution and Zappiti are TWO different companies. While this player has some nice features, that bizarre upside down display and NO 3D Playback will be a deal breaker for me. Knowing that you are a BIG 3D fan, I'm surprised that you are giving this player so much love.
I think that was a removable sticker...nothing was upside down. Guess we will find out when these arrive in people's home later this month.
The sticker is right side up. The window is upside down. It’s shown in the video with the sticker removed. They are correcting it for me.
@@therealshanelee Hilarious.
These contents are frm downloads!?!
If this is like the Zidoo 1619DR and 1619BPD Players they should have 80-90% of the bugs worked out 18 months after launch and then basically abandon it for the next chipset leaving a mostly functional but still buggy experience. Basing this on my personal experience as an early adopter of the Z9X and Z9X Pro.
Dune 8k on top
No 3D 😢
Give me a smooth plex UI and im sold
This user interface are update in same as UHD5000
How does this differ Vs Nvidia shield ?
That was my only question. Looks like more codec support and maybe higher upscale is the main factor.
Lol shield is over rated , its only good for streaming apps i have 2 of them you just cant compare with zidoo media boxes , its jud different the shield is so old that theres no updates snd the price for one is lile $200 bucks thered deff better media local players out there , for the price id buy a zidoo which i hsve ss well and to me it blows shield out of the water night and day
@@richardpereira8942 so this will stream my plex movies better and stream tidal music at high quality ?
Good review, but a minipc at the same price kills this product 🤷
No it doesn’t.
I was thinking the same thing. Maybe an i5 in a SilverStone ML09?
When I saw all the Chinese letters and the product is made by a Chinese company. Def it is a NO GO even if its free. Kaleidascape all day everyday.
Many electronics are made in China. Kaleidascape is much more expensive. This is a cheaper way to watch full quality 4ks.
What’s the point of 3D when no tvs support anymore (unfortunately)
Projectors support it.
Your thumb nail have a x over the r_volution 8k player.
That player is leagues ahead of this so why the thumb nail saying no?
No it isn't. I have both.
@ the video player looks so much better as well
As the menu system ?
+30% in term of price, no 3D, no real improvement, a shame.
The most important part of this video is showing how to get the movies on there? Can you purchase them? Do you hook up an external drive to this? How do you put hard drives in them? Storage Capacity? I have watched so many videos over the years and this product still seems like it doesn't really do anything??? I have had Kaleidescapes and getting movies on it was super easy. If this is just some chinese pirating thing, then I will give it a hard pass.
I don't understand why this is any better than a 300 dollar computer. With my computer I can play back Blu rays In Dolby Atmos, I can play back SACD's in their original DSD format. I have one main coumputer and 2 small 250 dollar computers networked together. I have everything stored on a hardrive . I've converted DVDA's to 5.1 and 7.1 flac files. There are no limitations to what formats I can play back.
Even a SFF doesn't have this design plus a PC needs updates
@@neeko18 Updates can be a good thing. It beats becoming obsolete as improvements are made.
@@neeko18 actually you don’t have to install updates. They’re just to make things more secure when you’re connected to the internet, but then again, who knows your pc exists and you only more likely to get a virus with sites that have viruses.
It aways works out cheaper to build your own, than buying a player, like the Panasonic DP-UB9000.
I’ve also built my own and a server too.
Same. Media PC boxes were a thing. But then people kind of forgot them.
After over a decade of building and setting up HTPC's (with MadVR, MPC-BE, Kodi, etc), these current day media boxes just bring a level of simplicity that's still not there with HTPCs. The ability to play a large variety of files with so little fuss in your home theater or living room setup is really appealing. I literally don't use my HTPC in two of my theater setups for video any more, just really running EZBEQ for my subs and doing software updates for my video processors. I can also much more easily integrate these media boxes into an A/V system for easy access and control by anyone who wants to use the system. For me having Zidoos and Apple TV's, covers everything I want between file playback from NAS to Streaming services.
No 3D makes this a brick to many home theater enthusiasts... For me I will never buy home theater players with an incomplete featureset. A PC connected to my TV can play every format under the sun, *including* full-res frame-packed 3D, so I'm not sure why someone would pay extra for this.
What program plays framepacked 3D?
What GPU are you using in your PC that does 3D, and what display? My TV is a Panasonic plasma from 2010. I don't know what I'm going to do for 3D if it dies. But I want to build a quality PC that can do 3D anyway
I love 3D as a projector owner and I have had no problems playing 3D ISO back on my Z2000. This is mainly only if I haven't got a disc copy of something and last check literally less than a handful of titles. It definitely sucks that the 8000 no longer supports 3D, but definitely far from a deal breaker. I know if I got desparate to play something back I could easy plug in my spare Z9X and use that.
Wow! Sending a defective demo unit with an upside down screen for review. How embarassing and very unreassuring. Not talking for myself since I own the UHD5000 and I love it. Oh, amd my 5000 does 3D very well.
I bought one of these. The software / firmware is HORRIBLE (just go look at the forums and all the issues literally everyone is having). This product is NOT ready for public release as of late Sept 2024. Mine repeatedly crashes and is unusable for many of the features it's sold as having.
At this point, save yourself the money and headache and buy something else.
NO issues with mine whatsoever. I use it daily.
@@therealshanelee Same. And I tried all three. Z9X 8K, Z3000, and now the UHD8000. Zero issues!
This is a user guide, NOT a review👎
Do you know how to read?
All Audio Out 2ch 16 bit 48KHz !!!! SCAM !
What makes you think that?
ESS9069Q DAC, supports decoding DSD512/PCM768KHz 32Bit.
For local media playback, impossible to beat the Ugoos AM6B+ with CoreELEC right now. Full dual-layer TV-led DV, plus all other HDR formats. HD audio of course, and of late full 3D MVC! Only thing it can't do is AV1 playback.
Am I the only one who gets the BS behind the "8K" marketing ploy? I mean, "8K UHD"? Isn't that a contradiction in terms?? UHD is by definition less resolution than full 4K, so therefore true 8K is way WAY beyond UHD..... Theoretically 8K is possible down the road but first streaming needs to get to full 4K before they can even think about 8K.
I am NOT saying this isn't a great player but please stop with the 8K BS
And by extension I am also putting 8K displays on notice. Sure they are future proof...theoretically. But....there is nothing in streaming or physical Media that can play in 8K let alone full 4k. If you have a camera that can record in 8K and can connect it directly to your 8K TV this is the only way one can actually watch anything in 8K for now
There’s no such thing as Future Proof with electronics!!!
Lol. You can't buy it. Is this an AI of a future player? 😂
Let's say this is it best box ever but with the price tag nobody going to buy this
Why would anyone buy a K Scape when this exists.
Or even, build your own.
Well there's Zero work to get movies on Kscape for one. And that's a big ask for a whole lot of folks.
@@therealshanelee That’s being lazy, haha. Come on I’ve seen you build things on here. That’s the fun of it all. It’s just way too expensive for what it is. But if you have the money and your old, then perhaps yes. I guess that you’re paying for the other things, like it coming out earlier than it does on disc or at the cinema, un-cut versions, etc, etc.
@@richardkUK8764 that's not being lazy. Some folks don't want to bother ripping their movies. It's a legit hassle and every movie doesn't always rip. I for one hate doing it while others don't mind. Depends on your needs.
@@therealshanelee Yes I guess so, I have a few I can’t get to rip. But it doesn’t hurt just to play it from the disc, when you can’t rip it.
PLEX??