If Gohan NEVER Stopped Training...
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“Hard work beats talent when talent doesn’t work hard”
Oh I see them might guy quote right there
Goku is mad talented tho the guy just keeps breaking wall after wall his ability to adapt on the fly is nuts.
Sage words.
That's HELLA true, immona remember that
Mr. 8-Bit Doggo I mean someone that’s taller then you is going to have a better chance of being better at basketball.
Gohan never slacked off, he defeated all of his exams.
El Ringo nice lmao
SCRW EXAMS WHEN THERE ARE PEOPLE WHO CAN BLOW UP PLANETS!
TheLegend you act like it’s over dude. Give it time
Nice one lol
you win.
To me, Gohan is the Nightwing of Dragonball: tons of potential, perfect mentors, but gets nerfed by the creator.
He doesn't like to fight its the whole point of gohan vs cell.
Facts 😅
_Oh Soooo Truuuuuuuuuuuuu_
It’ll come into play later on. Gohan will be the main character
AestheticBiker82 this
SSJ 2 Gohan against Cell is still the most badass character in the whole series
Ghouls Revenge agreed
Only one who can maybe top that is himself as Future One Armed Gohan
@Pat Diaz but That time I got reincarnated as Yamcha Yamcha was dope
agreed. which is why he needs an alternate series dedicated to him and trunks.
Honestly Gohan's SSJ2 fight was the best display of dominance in the history of Dragon Ball. Cell literally couldn't touch Gohan. He was wrecking his shit. Cell only got Gohan once and that's because he tried to save Vegeta. Super Vegetto, Ultimate Gohan, SSJB Vegetto, Beerus etc. even though they are far stronger than Teen Gohan, these guys got hit at least once when they first showed up, but Teen Gohan... He was putting Cell up for adoption, he embarrassed him. He beat Cell up so badly that he contemplated suicide, SUICIDE DAMMIT!!! How many characters have whooped someone so badly that they had to resort to suicide to end their suffering. Gohan may not be my favourite character, but he is definitely the most badass. FACTS. You can try and disagree with me, but it probably won't work out.
Peace has cost you your strength gohan...victory has defeated you!
GOHAN JOINS THE LEAGUE OF SHADOWS!
Where does this line come from?
Viyus Avery Pokémon
The storyline from that movie could work quite well for Gohan. If he was Batman and Bane was Cell.
@@viyusavery248 The Dark Knight Rises
If frieza can become relevent for the 1 millionth time in the series, so should gohan. Atleast once.
agreed
The Tropical Owl right
Frieza is more of a favorite to the writer than Gohan. He admitted it himself he was second to Goku I believe.
The Tropical Owl You mean Frieza becoming relevant for the second time in the series? He showed up as Cyborg Frieza and got fucked on by Trunks like nothing which I don't consider as exactly relevant. He was relevant in regards to establishing Trunks as a cool guy and not as an actual contender in the series anymore. Then he didn't pop up again until Super when he became relevant after actually caring enough to try for a few months.
@@Pragabond I referring to frieza in dbs.
That fool trained for two hours and gained all his muscle mass back and got his ultimate form back lol
Thats dragon ball power scaling for you
yoUNgNdObnOxious Actually Gohan’s been training after the revival of Frieza Arc, so realistically the guy has been training for nearly a year
It was actually several weeks as he started training right after Freiza busted him.
And here I am.... if I don't go to the gym for a month I need two to get back to normal :O
@@oestergaard141 I haven't been in about a year and I guarantee after a few days I could be back to 2 hours on the elliptical.
Jíren would’ve grinned at the challenge of a fully powered Gohan.
Talk about a FIGHT of a CENTURY.
I think we also have to factor in stuff like motivation and ptsd into how much Gohan MAKES OUT OF his huge potential! Remember, he would only stop training during that year, if he passed out. He was so motivated, almost in an insane way. That´s a big point to consider in this argument!
Bruh THAT WOULD HAVE BEEN SO AWESOME! HE COUPD AHVE VERY WELL GAINED AND MASTERED ULTRA INSTINCT! Cause Gohan has the mind and strength to do it. Idk y Beerus has not seen this and NOT tried to get Gohan to train idk maybe he’s seen that Gohan wants to spend time with his family or something, but he could still personally train him or leave it up to Whis and occasionally let Gohan go back to Earth to spend time with his family. You’d think that Beerus or at least Whis would pick up on it by now considering Gohan without a doubt has the greatest potential in the entire franchise and that’s on facts-that’s not even up for debate
Honestly think gohan would obliterate jiren if he kept training like he did with goku after cell, especially with vegeta, like he became a legit warrior lmao but that’s not gohan
@@joelbahena855 These people are retarded! Dude if he trained with whis (It's over-) everyone wins low diff but if he doesn't ui? Mui?..... No dude Beerus didn't get it
I don’t wanna see him get god forms ngl ultimate suits hom
Maybe for a possible side plot, Gohan asks Whis to train him in the Hyperbolic time chamber. It would be an easy way for him to reach his father's level in power. Also, he wouldn't be slacking in his studies and still have time for his family.
Gohan doesn't need Whis. Gohan need to train with Goku and Piccolo or even train with Vegeta.
He will get stronger faster with either of them.
@@DJK1NGGaming
I think they mean him tapping into God Ki. And learning how to converse and regulate his ki better. Something Goku or Vegeta could teach but it'd be better if Whis did it.
Whis can bring anyone back so the hyperbolic time chambers rules is BEAT!
KyanbuXM
Agreed
If he trained with whis in the HTC he'd be stronger than everybody. Even ui goku. You saw how strong he gets just from a couple of hours. A year with whis would be overkill
Since Gohan is my #1 best boy, I approve this message.
Yes!
I wish super could give this man some love
Same
Even with seven year's of training. Gohan can't beat UUb :)
@@calvinrump3558 debatable.
The super saiyan god in beerus's dream is just the hard-trained Gohan
@Anti HERO Broly definitely isn't stronger than beerus lol. Goku hasn't even seen beerus' full power. Beerus is a God, not a mortal so it is literally impossible to tell how much power a God has left or is using.
@@orange3567 Beerus was a mortal at one point.
@@dragonslayerz2220 So?
Anh Dang your head canon is out of this world
Orange bruh in tournament of power it was show beerus freaking out that goku got mui or ui he his expression should he be more powerful then him and also broly never trained and he got more powerful then blue goku bd vegeta in a 1 hr or 2
Goku: >kills self to protect the world<
Goku: now you're the world's protector my son
Gohan: ya sure k bye
Lol
teenagers lol
LOL
HORMONES
Woomy Gohan: Ok boomer
Krillin did mention in the DBS Manga that Gohan would possibly be stronger than Goku if he devoted himself to training. At least in Heroes, Xeno Gohan is able to go SSJ3 and SSJ4
Vegeta mentioned it too
@@Geekdom101 Right! Vegeta did mentioned it during the Universe 6 Arc in the anime
Vegeta also states that Gohan has the most potential out of all of them.
He would be way stronger than goku when u think about it
Many people mentioned that Gohan would've been ridiculously strong if he kept training. The dude achieved SSJ2 at 11 years old. Imagine if he kept up with his training during the 7 year time span.
Ultimate gohan surpassed goku and vegeta. His only flaw was his arrogance. He didn't need ss3.
ArtisticAJ SSJ3 was more powerful
The Old Kai even points that out when he was helping him become Ultimate. Gohan doesn't need super saiyan at all.
and he did lack his confidence a bit and did not just slack off on his training but not being smart with his fighting strategies
Even Piccolo points this out to Gohan in Super like "Bro, you've got that power. But you got cocky *TWICE,* and you wonder why Goku & Vegeta are training. Because you're not trustworthy anymore."
My god, if gohan didn't need ssj at all, just imagine what he would have done if he combined ssj with his ultimate potential...
Gohan: i have the greatest potential!
Goku: i have plot
*Plotential. xD
Naruto: check out my talk-no-jutsu
He said a funny
I have fans
Gohan is like Broly from latest movie. Its hard to judge his upper limit as if he goes berserk, only way to take him down is do it fast before he surpasses you within few minutes. Goku and Vegeta train a lot and get heroic entries, but if everything else is failing and even by dragonball standards there is no logical way to victory, you throw Gohan in cause thats where the miracles happen.
Lord Sesshoumaru Yup pretty much, though Broly definitely has a more faster learning rate and was able to surpass Blue a lot quicker than anyone has, the closest thing Gohan did was grow stronger to adapt with Frieza’s forms, but he wasn’t able to beat him though. I love Gohan, he’s like my favorite character, but I gotta admit, Broly might be better here, though only slightly, cause as crazy strong Broly gets through his rage, Gohan probably gets even stronger through his own rage
dbs broly is the only guy with more potential then gohan
That’s THE GREATEST explanation of this situation that I have ever seen. Literally When Goku and Vegeta can’t do shit then Akira decides to just give Gohan a power up even though he was weak ass fuck had no muscles an episode ago but decides to throw him in there
@@nataliawashington872 Well he trained for almost a year and also XD broly would murk gohan
@@kevo5133 bro just imagine if broly trained with whis or a good teacher how strong he would be since within an hour he went from base Vegeta level to just below gogeta blue lol
I admit Gohan would've been GoD level threat by the time beerus woke up out his sleep.
totally agree bro
That's with super wither way real or not stronger that goku and vegeta yes
Pass that I would say
@@goldenhd9656 ygs
Prince Vegeta SSGSS if vegeta admits something you know it’s true
Dude, that SSJ3 Gohan in the thumbnail is sick.
agreed! Art by AKA!
Geekdom101 Got a link to the full pic? I’d love to have that.
I honestly believe that ultra instinct should have been a Gohan tranformation, like an upgraded version of his mystic form. His saiyan heritage combined with the mystic energies of the kais, would explain the white hair. Goku just suddenly gets ultra instinct; and that's why a lot of people have issues with Dragon Ball Super, their isn't a character arc or emotional catalyst that makes these transformation's feel earned.
Perhaps Goku and Vegeta fail in defeating Jiren while Gohan is off fighting a unique enemy, that were often seen in super; who can show his enemies their worst fear to paralyze them. Gohan see's the death of his family and at first shocked, being so smart, realizes it's an illusion. At this time, the enemy starts attacking but his hits do nothing, as the strength of his blows relies on fear. Gohan realizes the diminishing power of his father and Vegeta; then says something like "I can't place all that I love on their shoulders, they won't be around forever". He knocks out the enemy in one blow to the gut and quietly goes to where the others are fighting. Both of them are on the ground barely hanging on, as Jiren walks to them, they talk like this is the end,and then suddenly Jiren looks up. Goku and Vegeta turn to see Gohan, where Vegeta proceeds to proclaim that it's over,and that Gohan can't do anything, since he they couldn't. Goku shuts him up and says something like "Good Luck, Son" . Suddenly the universe seems to start shaking as power emanates from Gohan, everyone is shocked. Vegeta exclaims "how can this be?" and Goku says "I know right, no yell, no hatred, what else can this be but Gohan's true power" . They are engulfed in light and introduced to Gohan's Ultra Instinct form, which reflects his calm and pacifist nature.
That actually sounds pretty badass and would work far more with his training with the Kai's as well. Shame that Toriyama and co side-lined everyone, in favor of Goku all the damn time.
This is how it should've been like.
Look amazing, you should have wrote for DB Super... I would have just made Goku says "i see something different in Gohan" instead of good luck
But it's not really "mystic" energy. Elder Kai's ritual was used to release the power that Gohan already possessed.
No
I’m more upset that Vegeta never had a victory against a big bad, like it always ALWAYS comes down to Goku
He did take down toppo he was strong.
Still in the boat that Vegeta should have had "red" Ultra Instinct instead of "Super Saiyan Bluer" . Goku's Blue UI was defensive, Vegeta could have gotten an offensive version and fused to have Mastered UI. That way you keep Vegeta competitive with Goku.
Piccolo killed Raditz, Vegeta killed Nappa, Frieza killed Vegeta, trunks killed Frieza, Vegeta killed android 19, 17 killed 20, Gohan killed Cell, the whole world killed Kid Buu, and Goku finally gets a kill against Frieza, just to resurrect him later.
@@Napstablooky That makes absolutely no sense when Whis already told the 2 of them in not so many words that UI allows someone to defend AND attack on instinct, not 1 or the other.
@@Napstablooky that dumbass THEORY 😂😂😂 Everyone who believed that basically shot themselves in the foot
Goku:someday gohan you'll be stronger than me
Me:😂😂🤣
john da goat he was at one point
john da goat at two points
EVERYTHING ! ! Was he really tho they didn’t mention Goku always had the Kio-ken in his back pocket the whole while
@@JRoyal504 I think they would've mentioned it if it made a difference.
Someday can be any day, he didn’t lie lol
Gohan was taking on Dyspo and holding his own against Super Saiyan Blue level characters. Goku struggled against Raditz around the same age.
That’s so fucking crazy to think .. that Goku at Gohans current age was running around snake way to meet with king kai after being killed trying to stop Raditz
Hell, When Goku was 11 he hadn't even gone on his fun little adventure with Bulma yet, when Gohan was 11 HE DEFEATED A SOLAR SYSTEM LEVEL BUG MAN that clapped everyone else's ass cheeks.
SkyTech RTS Goku was older when he started training than Gohan was when Gohan started training.
@@MrCubFan415 That doesn't matter, because Gohan was stronger than both Goku and Piccolo combined when angered as a 4 year old. Gohan was nearly as strong as Piccolo's Special Beam Cannon that killed Goku and Raditz, apparently. It goes without saying that Gohan has always been stronger than his father when compared at the same ages.
SkyTech RTS lol get over your fanboyism obviously hogan achieved more earlier in life the show was more developed and fleshed out when he grew up hell look at goten and trunks
If gohan trained like goku or vegeta then by the time super came around gohan would clap beerus
Cheeks"
we are just talking normal training by himself here, not even elder kai juiced up 24 hour power training or anything of that kind of crazy crap
That’s not true because they were only able to tap into being able to push Beerus just by a little after training with whis, whis knows how to train them to fight gods
You definitely don’t know what you’re talking about lmao.
Gohan would be strong but you underrate beerus because beerus would still clap gohan you are overestimating gohan
It would be cool if Gohan had his own spinoff mini-series (canon, of course) where he doesn't get sidelined & develops as a Z warrior, husband, father, friend, etc.
That'll be a great story to see
Then something dramatic would happen and someone kills videl and pan and the dragon balls would be destroyed than gohan reflects the time he’s had with his wife and daughter the first time pan filed in the sky and that would be his breaking point and he would then dedicate his time into training to get the super dragon balls to revive his family but till that time comes gohan will train and eventually get to the same level as goku and vegata and will take his train g seriously considering his family was murdered in front of him and it was nothing he could’ve done because he was so weak and the person that killed gohans family was Moro and together goku gohan and vegata will try to stop moro from mass destruction
@@selfdeprecatingprick1018 please no! How about not kills but tries to harm them I don’t do that to Gohan 😭
"You peaked."
"What?"
"You peaked."
"You're kidding! After all that?!"
"Yeah, sorry."
"B-but I get stronger though, right?"
"Yeah but, no......"
D Ø K K A N P L A Y E R
I loved that
Asian Gamer
Actually. Dbz kai abridged.
Gohans doesnt train cause he knows we can catch up quick 🤔😂
Final kill yep
*he
Yeah cause of plot lol.
You're right.
He can catch up to Goku and Vegeta in less than 1 day. He would surpass them if he trained for a year.
But once he stops training, his body will steadily decline.
Final kill lol all he gotta do is go hard in training for like a month and he does what goku took years to do lol he so OP
I just feel really bad for Vegeta who trains everyday and would still get bitch slapped from 2 day trained Gohan
“GOHAN IS THE STRONGEST BUT DOESNT DO CRAAAAPP”
I understood that reference
*I CAN SEE THE FUTURE*
*BULMA AND VEGETA HAVE A KID*
*CELL ACHIEVES HIS PERFECT FORM*
*GOTEN AND TRUNKS BECOME A GUY*
*THE REAL BUU IS A KID*
*GOHAN IS THE STRONGEST BUT DOESNT DO CRAP*
From where is that
TFS DRAGON BALL ABRIDGED
"You have Cell, a solar system level threat just *clap* *clap* *clap* clapping Goku." I can't breathe.
But yeah Gohan would have one shoted Buu had he not stopped training.
That was hilarious! :D
Lmfao
Which one
@@jasonray2827 fat buu
I was dead when he said that 6:58
It actually hurts me how they not only wasted Gohan's potential once, but also did it a second time after Beerus showed up. They keep bringing up how Gohan had the most potential out of all Z Fighters but never actually do anything with it (Unless you want to count the ToP arc)
I think perhaps toriyama is thinking of something to do with Gohan. Gohan says hes looking for a form thats different fror ssj in the anime and manga implying hes going to continue his training and take a different path from goku and vegeta
Yeah but keep in mind Toriyama wanted Gohan to take the leading role after the Cell Saga but didn't because he recieved backlash from the fan base. Also, I don't think Gohan will achieve a form on his own. Unless you have God Ki you're irrelevant and DBS will probably come up with some ridiculous new form with a different hair color.
Da Fresh Prince Stole Meh Bitch actually it was because their was a vote where by near the end of the buu saga hogan wasn't the top 5 characters in fact the creator of DBZ changed his mind after realizing his story was done and that his story was boring
It’s actually the genius of the writers to have a positive character that can surpass the protagonist but just doesn’t want that life ... fights when he had to and he wasn’t nerfed out of nowhere it was always foreshadowed that gohan wanted peace and a scholars life and he saw what his family had to go through when his father wasn’t around and felt the need to fulfill the role of a father figure in his family who wanted a normal life.
@@SockOrSomething The writer already said he's not doing much with Gohan so that Goku could be the main character
When Jiren was introduced, he reminded me of Gohan if the latter never stopped training.Someone with potentiall far beyond anyone else shown, even the Gods.Vegeta even admitted in the Super manga that Gohan's potential and fighting ability supercedes them all. If Gohan trained like his father, he would easily surpass Beerus
I always just assumed that Mystic Gohan was Gohan's stored potential during the seven years that he didn't train, and that if Gohan trained throughout those seven years, that he'd be relative to that level of power.
makes sense
That is basically how I understood it. It was his potential power. Like taking a battery from one week in the future and using it now. Its not going to retain all of its power all the way through till 2 weeks from now. You used it already. (not the best example but I've gotten basically no sleep today so close enough).
wouldn't he get better at fighting tho? like maybe mystic gohan got him the strength but not the experience of fighting
Quite sure that's just straight up how Old Kai explained it. It was supposed to be the easy way to the same results.
@@mooonrayz true. The Z sword training gave some of his fighting experience back before he went mystic.
Well, as (Majin) Vegeta once said in Shin Budokai, Gohan is a "monster with power beyond legend." Guy's got no ceiling to hit.
Also that *clap, clap, clap, clap!* 😂
Video games are like another parallel universe.
Wasn’t he talking about future gohan when he said that?
@@vsauce_johnny2516 he fought Ultimate (Mystic) Gohan when he said it.
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Here is how Gohan becomes the strongest fighter in 3 Earth days.
Step 1: The Saiyans of Earth perform the ritual to turn Gohan into a SSJG.
Step 2: Goku drags his ass into the Room of Spirit and Time to teach him how to fully harness the God Ki
Step 3: Gohan and Goku teleport to the Supreme Kai planet and make Elder Kaioshin do the ritual again.
And then you have Ultimate Gohan with Blue Power.
Step 4: Goku teaches Gohan Kaioken.
Done and done.
MAKE GOHAN GREAT AGAIN!!!
Geekdom. I hope you see this comment but, maybe it would take you explaining why Gohan defeating Kefla in the manga is no different than Goku doing it. Poeple still try to low ball the man by saying that Kefla's fusion is different in the manga because it's just a combination of Kale's strength and Caulifla's experience (or something like that) instead of it being a combination of both of their powers. Like, when has potara fusion (or any fusion) ever done that? Just nonsense, man!
Bring Seth back for more discussions!!! "Clap clap clap, like he was his son"
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Reminder, Ultimate Gohan beat Kefla by himself, Solo, 1on1, just him, alone
In the Goku Black Saga, wasn't it implied that Gohan was training with Piccolo when trunks left in the time machine and was crying. He was upset because he thought he failed Gohan, but he saw a glimpse of "training" or "ultimate" Gohan when he was leaving. I imagine he was training for more than 40 minutes, and he had been training since that point.
"slacked off a bit?????"
even if you say "he fell off a cliff" is a major understatement.
True
I remember Vegeta criticizing Gohan for his lack of training during the Buu Saga however, he acknowledged that Gohan has greater potential than him and Goku
He probably hates the fact that gohans wasting his potential
SouR- Sensei Yeah, he mentions it again in Super. It’s like he wants to see how far Gohan can go.
@@Seraphim_Belisarius definitely he always was interested in him cause he had hella potential plus that pride of vegetas his standards are high, he'll tell you if youre weak
SouR- Sensei fact
If Gohan didn't stopped training he would've one of the most badass characters
absolute fact
Base Gohan slapping Whis when?
@Evan Morel probably because he would have the highest chance to beat Beerus.
GOHAN IS STILL A BADASS!
@@Dinesh-ts1cr No...just no
Gohan asks Dende to rebuild the Room of Spirit and Time. He emerges a Mastered Sage Instinct Ultra Super Saiyin Googolplex Grand Elder god.
*Gohan: Hey guys!"
*universe obliterates
😭🤦🏾♂️
Lmao I fuck with this
If only
Bruh they don’t even use that anymore-that could be so useful
But 😂 googolplex grand elder god???
I've always been disappointed that gohan stopped training. Though I also agree that if he did he would have surpassed goku and vegeta, and the show needs those two upfront because honestly they're more interesting and dynamic characters.
If he was already ahead, how could surpass them?
If Yamcha never stop dying😂
😂
If people keep forgetting yamcha can kick your ass dead for that shit talk.
If yamcha was a saiyan he would be so strong from all of the zenkai boosts he'd recieve.
Star Lord AaronNewsted fuck that’s so true, is ur fault you made me laugh 😂 hahahaha
@@Roto3 Can he do that to the other Z-Fighters though?
Yeah, to add to it. If Gohan kept training and trained as hard as Vegeta and Goku with Wiz. He probably would have been able to well beyond Jirin's maximum power before the Top.
Wiz? Wiz Khalifa?
Raw North no he wouldn’t be at Jirens level. Please stop it.
blake wagner wiz Khalifa slaps jirens stupid
It would be a good challenge for a SUPPRESSED WHIS which means he can achieve a Low Angel Tier or a Mid Angel Tier.
Clearly Whis is the third strongest angel.
@@blakewagner2895 gohan literally went from ssj level to ssb and higher tier just from training with PICCOLO of all people for like a few hours so i believe if gohan was training with whis and actually got god ki I'd say he can definitely hit jirens level
I'm interested in knowing how Goten will be growing tbh, he usually wants to fight and I really hope he'll get some more screentime.
agreed him and Trunks
Goten would bascially be Goku without Chi Chi.. I hate that woman
@@TheoOJamaloO1 I liked her before they got married. But now she's just annoying, I agree.
@@SEGA_master thats life xD
They need more screentime for sure, but especially in the manga like they are almost non existent in the super manga
Goku's adventure started in dragon ball at the age of 12 and he was fighting super human level opponents, while Gohan started his at the age of 5 training with Piccolo and his first threat being the saiyans Nappa and Vegeta who were much stronger than all the z fighters. Gohan continued to go up against opponents who were thousands of times more powerful than Goku's opponents at that age. Gohan had way more potential.
First threat was Radditz who Gohan hurt on zero training at all, just raw emotion based natural power
Christ. I’m a Gohan fan boy but even I didn’t think his power ups were that outrageous. Dude is virtually a half-saiyan version of Broly.
Na,that would be trunks.
Then imagine Broly's child
I wouldn't take it with more than a grain of salt, Seththprogrammer has a fixation with excessively highballing things as much as he possibly can for the sake of being dramatic, do you honestly honestly believe Gohan got as he said "trillions" of times stronger in just 1 hour or 1 day of flinging around a sword? Honestly, its simply ludicrously impossible nonsense, just based on everything in the show's continuity and common sense, sethprogrammer is a highballer junky, Toriyama never scaled his power levels to the size of celestial bodies like seth tries to do and never created "hidden exponents" where a power level of 180 is really intended to be a quadrillion billion just because it destroyed a moon without realizing 5 is an average human and that a beam with a power level of 1330 almost ten times the moon busting 180 couldn't destroy more than a piece of a mountain, Toriyama did not think deep like these overthinking youtube fanboys, Toriyama is a gag writer who was writing for mostly his career's sake and has never been interested in detailed world building, planning ahead or huge amounts of math in fictional worlds,Toriyama is a simple man who just tried to tell a story and make money that's it, as a result dragonball power levels and scaling inconsistent with not only real world physics scaling but with its own scaling.
@@hyperrunner8531 Guy seth just said real facts how in anyway was that opinionated give me any proof in the video that shows that. It is true gohan literally trained for like a few hours in dragon super with PICCOLO of all people and already went from like ssj level to dyspo level which is pretty much ssb and higher tier
@@flameagar8995 There are no levels in super, its just plot armor for the entire run of that terribly written series which is why most of the power scaling is in shambles in super where everyone's power goes up and down every episode, one minute Goku's SSJB form is getting just mauled by Berserk form Kale to the point where he's complete fodder to her and can't even phase her with his kamehameha, then next minute he's stronger than a stronger version of Kale wile in his SSJ2 form which is weaker than his base form against Caulifla, so the mere fact you're using super as a reference really shows why you are able to believe absurd things like this for the sake of hype and fandom, if Gohan can get TRILLIONS of times stronger in just an hour of flinging around a sword then he'd be stronger than Beerus in his first year of training with Piccolo back when he was 5, the majority of the consistency in the original show shows this is ridiculously stupid preposterous and impossible, no one ever made nonsensical jumps, Gohan SSJ2 was around equal to Dabura who's Cell level who was able to put up a small fight against buu, who was able to put up a fight against evil buu the power gaps are not that huge no one is vaporizing someone with a breath, Gohan gets more like 94x stronger from the kaioshin powerup, and that is a fuck tonne in of itself as there are very few times where someone makes a jump like this in Z, there is no need for all the trillions and quadrillions numbers to pop up that's just beyond stupid.
Considering in just 1 year he mastered Super Sayain and then tapped into SS2,
If he trained non-stop for 7 years?!? He’d probably be Super Sayain Blue honestly.
1 year in hard conditions with a good training partner almost as powerful as he was, free to go as hard as they liked in an endless void.
ROSAT training doesnt represent what you can do outside of it.
and you only get 2 years in there.
SSJ Blue is impossible to achieve without knowing what god ki is and how to access it.
God Emperor of Mankind 3.0 I know, I was partly joking.
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 is it, though? did golden frieza know what god ki is and how to access it?
@@TheMike0088 no and that was his downfall, remmeber
@@godemperorofmankind3.091 true, but he did manage to access it without knowing about it, thats my point.
0:12
Kept replaying that part.
"...and wasn't really ill-equipped to face off against the powers of the Majins in the next arc."
Had to replay it four times; thought I was just hearing things.
Toriyama went crazy or something. He set up Gohan to be the inheritor then just squashed it all away. I legit think I read somewhere it's because of merchandise $$ or something so he saddled Goku back up for the remainder of the series.
It was fan outrage they wanted goku to come back so they brought him back also same reason why super was all about goku because of how many people in the 90s wanted goku back
Prolly that and the fact that he just writes as he writes-he doesn’t come up with this stuff before hand he just writes as he goes and hint at this is in the Buu saga opening you can see it mostly focuses on Gohan as if Akira wanted to focus on Gohan to make him the main character
Been waiting for a video on this for years‼️🙌🏾
What if Vegeta force gohan to train with during the 7 year gap from the cell saga to buu saga so he could reach super saiyan 2 himself?
See, that's the start to the Buu saga I always wanted.
@@Thuazabi me to vegeta would of destroyed buu and goku after 7 years training with gohan
Vegeta would had destroyed goku after 7 years of getting his ass whooped by gohan.😂😂😂😂
Nothing could ever get me to download raid shadow legends.
Fax
Now this would make a badass fan manga / anime ... like in multiverse a different timeline where Gohan never stops training and wrecks everybody. Somebody make it happen
I feel like gohan could’ve been a scholar while getting stronger since he had stated he fought to protect his family, giving him the proper motivation and drive
That’s what I been saying! Why couldn’t he did both, it wouldn’t proved his smart and muscular nature and for him to be fighting for his friends and family...a sense of duty instead of the hunt
@@theamazingmaymay123 cuz he sucks
DarkEternal6 Gohan was never meant to be a fighter.
@DarkEternal6 it wasn't a theory, this is the story of goku. Go watch the original dragonball man. This is his story not gokus son
@DarkEternal6 a couple of people love gohan but that doesnt mean the whole story should be about him same thing about vegeta.
Never noticed that Vegeta wore sneakers at one point.... I feel like I missed a whole plot point
But can we talk about 17? How the hell did he get so strong lmao
Alberto Gallardi push ups, sit ups and plenty of milk. Plus all that infinite energy and stamina
Think about this if Gohan managed achieve his ultimate form again in a few days and surpassed Golden Frieza then Just imagine how strong he could get if Dragon ball super continued and trained with Piccolo or in the hyberbolic time chamber.
I wish Gohan never stopped training! He was my favorite for a long time then they nerfed him...
i totally agree with this
It would've been cool to see gohan go ssj blue
I don’t think the future Gohan was really slacking thou. he spent decent amount of time training future trunks
Yeah. But in that timeline it was a necasity. And that is what Gohan allways did best. Doing, what needs to be done, when he is needed.... and then he wasn't needed anymore in the original time line.... plus incosistant writing doing the rest of course.
My thoughts on that was the lack of direction Gohan had. He lost both fathers that trained him. Of course he would rage, but we would have to scale back focus and scale length of time to achieve compared to the hyperbolic chamber.
I'd say the timeline matches up pretty nicely with his solo training and constant fleeing from the droids. He couldn't get to a near death state for a full zenkai boost otherwise he would simply be murdered.
@@thomaselizondo8214 By the Android Saga Zenkai isn't actually a thing anymore anyway
Well, if this was the case Gohan will be the main character of the series...
He was supposed to be after the cell saga I thought? Wasn't that the reason Goku was killed "for good" to make gohan the main guy but fans wanted goku back.
@@parkermiller7901 no.
@@Yumemaru. Yes, apparently the japanese fans didn't like that Gohan became the main character so they started bashing Toriyama, so eventually he changed it back to Goku
@@djkage457 that sucks, I wanted to see gohan blanco 😔
Gohan was a number 1 generational talent draft pick but he never wanted to work at his game, just relied on natural talent, He doesn't have that Mamba mentality, He aint no goat just a Bust
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Caleb Deane thank you
Bwaka 67 good analogy he basically randy moss
a strange but *ACCURATE EXAMPLE*
Since Gohan is a Dad and a Husband. He has a reason to get stronger to protect his family.
That’s what Gohan said in Super and look how that turned out 🤷♂️
So basically what Vegeta and Nappa were talking about was true well apparently for Gohan, Hybrid Saiyans have the potential to be as strong if not even stronger than Pure blooded Saiyans
They also reach potential faster
personally I think its a bit of an downgrade if the hybrid's from one superior and inferior being.
I might get flamed for this, but I’ve never really believed that the the half-saiyans have more potential. I think Gohan is an anomaly.
Future Trunks, Trunks, and Goten never showed that same level of potential that Gohan did. Gohan, being the son of the main character, and the almost replacement of said main character, has the hidden power, not any other half-saiyan. But that’s just my interpretation.
@@Shadowfox1300 I agree with you on 2nd points but not so much with gohan cause for his case to be anomaly it requires the present of source that can make that happen considering how /where he originally came from (human - inferior vs saiyan in term of evolution) it went that way only cause of how write wanted the outcome to be.
@@ddlcp your assumption that humans are inferior is invalid
I'm praying the the Shenrons that DB decides to make Gohan resume and focus on his training.... Seeing him defeat Cell as a kid in my mother's room has made him my favourite character ever since then. I always wanted to be like him, and when they introduced that he was focusing on school i was, and still am, hella pissed about it.... Hoping he comes back full force, always love when he gets some showtime and pops off reaching new heights for himself.
The last time I was early james charles was relevant to hate
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All I see when I look at that movie 10 broly is LR teq Broly 😂😂
Actually, I mean...
You aren't wrong 😂😂😂😂
AND I'M PISSED BECAUSE I COULDN'T PULL HIM
"If Gohan NEVER Stopped Training"? if broly ever trained ? :)
lol good point, Broly is king!!!!
Broly technically trained a lot with that one Green haired beast guy as a child, for a while, since Broly was the only Saiyan on that planet for a while. Also, we don’t know if Broly has really gotten much stronger after the fight with Gogeta, seeing how Gogeta has done quite a lot of damage to Broly, meaning that Broly would get a pretty good zenkai out of that fight just like any other saiyan. So it really all depends on his power after the Gogeta fight. Gohan literally went from below base Goku level to beyond golden Frieza level in full power within just two hours. So to be honest, it’s hard to compare both character’s potential of power.
Arc you mean ba?
Broly does train. It’s just his training in comparison to the Z Fighters is garbage
@@123GOHANZ as frieza broly training against parugus is practically useless
I have been in love with Gohan as a character since Piccolo trained him. It would fill my heart with joy to see him come back to glory.
Hold up. Wasn't it stated that ultimate Gohan is the strongest non fused fighter in Z? That would mean that ultimate Gohan would we stronger than ssj 3 Goku.
Yes, that is correct
lNer0xl D.O.N the sad thing is he tried in the Resurrection of F and he lost it because he didn’t train
Yeah he definitely was.
Yea but after that android 17, surpassed ultimate Gohan.
That was stated over 10 years ago
He be the Ultimate Warrior 🤜🤛
If Gohan started, or continued training he'd be too broken tbf
Ik this is a year late but not really since in the manga the enemy's are way stronger
@@itzlqmer6084 yea nowadays my comment doesn't hold up one bit i think
Who would win if they trained for 7 years... base GOHAN OR the new base/finial form FREIZA??😱
Gohan - IMO
Geekdom101 hmmmm🤔
But Frieza almost has never trained
I also think frieza is gonna train his tail off🤣 to be able to defeat Gogeta. So what about Broly cleaning up for him He doesn’t want to be left behind.
But yeah I think frieza has even more potential than Gohan
@@TrustGodman09 it was stated Frieza is a prodigy, just like goku.
this why i dragon ball dragon ball franchise it motivate you train and have potential if keep train i have cerebral palsy i always felt weak but shows like dragon ball or any anime that shows characters that never give up and train motivations me hit there gym and not let my disability be excuse.
Rock on, Dude! Keep it up.
Great video guys. I loved the explanations and story based facts. It’s so disappointing that toriyama has essentially forgot what was Gohans story in Z and took a backseat after the cell saga until his ultimate form in Buu arc. It was nice to see his revival in super but we need more Gohan in the spotlight.
If Gohan would stop slacking off, he would still be a badass fighter.
I really do believe they are going to give Gohan a new transformation next season. Trunks got whooped by Vegetas SSB and gained SSR because of it. Gohan got whooped by Gokus Kaioken times 10/20 whatever it was, and will also get a new transformation. Just my opinion, but great video Geekdom.
I definitely agree. As a matter of fact I wouldn't be surprised if the next movie doesn't focus on Gohan
@@donavanboykin9489 He deserves it. So much potential he could of had back then they could bring it back this coming season.
@@thatboye I %100 agree
Wow, Seth said the same shit i ve always thought about
Specially the Z Sword thing & M10 Base Gohan being M8 Lssj Broly lvl, or *even stronger*
right!
Honestly when it comes to it, and this comment might not be seen but I have to say it.
Gohan when it comes to the story easily has the potential to surpass Goku and Vegeta. Hell, Toriyama has even said previously that he intended to end the original series with Ultimate Gohan beating Buu and saving the universe. Goku was going to pass the torch down to Gohan and pretty much Retire, however because the fans loved Goku so much in Japan, Toriyama had to continue showing Goku in the limelight instead of Gohan like he had originally planned.
If he didn't stop training after defeating cell and was taught by Whis with Goku and Vegeta, We have ourselves an ultimate god form Gohan. Probably would've gave Jiren a run for his money.
I do believe that the future trunk's arc in dragonball super would give us a hint as to how strong Gohan would be if he continued training. Trunks was able to master super saiyan 2.
This because they need to face enemies. If they are living in peace, I am not so sure Trunks can go SSj2
@@kcsam0425 he can go super sayian 2
If we ever saw an angry Adult Gohan that surpassed Goku and Vegeta in Super...
I’d go CRAZY!
Imagine how great that would be for a second...
He's never going berserk again, let it go.
@@philmerc364 because think of what it would take now, his emotions are more in check because he's older. Death would have to become final for a period or it have to be a hopeless situation.
DBS Season 2 is on the horizon so hopefully we do see it
@@philmerc364 you don't know that buddy
RJ Ante I’m not really stressed about it. But I generally anything that would make him mad enough to fight someone seriously. He could’ve done it when Frieza came back to Earth.
If Raditz was happy to see Goku..
If Goku never learned kaioken..
If he kept training he would've slapped Beerus around like he slapped Bulma
Everything AllDwight 🤣🤣🤣🤣I just spit my beer out for this comment.
Gohan always needed a trainer. Potential is great, but he can't train on his own, he lacks the drive to do so. In addition, Gohan can only get stronger in regards of who trains him. Training under Vegeta in the hyperbolic time chamber could have made him many times stronger during the Cell saga, if Vegeta would agree to begin with. The problem lies in the 7 year gap before the Buu saga. Goku trained in the otherworld, battled different scale opponents, with a body not limited to boundries like the rest of the z fighters ALIVE. Vegeta trained using increased gravity to keep upscaling his training. And Gohan? He kind of got left alone, the other z fighters disbanded, each went his own way, and Gohan did not have someone to train with.
Honestly, if they were gonna continue past Cell, Vegeta becoming Gohan's trainer would have been the best call. Piccolo would have made sure that Gohan got a good training/study balance, but Vegeta would never take any sass from Chi-Chi about "too much training". Plus, the three of them trained up over 7 years would probably result in Vegeta and Gohan knocking on the door of SSJ3 (if they hadn't already tapped into it). I could also see them potentially accessing a "Mastered" SSJ2 form, much like SSJ1 Grade 4. In terms of power, it would probably be a one-and-done with Fat Buu, if not by a soloing then by a group attack.
@@Thuazabi I can't imagine vegeta at that stage being willing to take gohan on as a training buddy though. He was completely dejected to the point of potentially giving up his fighting gloves after the Cell games and even beyond that, he would no doubt have blamed gohan for the fact that Goku died. All adds up to him having a pretty sour view of the kid.
@@mistriousfrog That may happen actually. At the beginning of the Buu saga, we can see kid trunks was trained by Vegeta. So if Gohan asks for some training, as a Saiyan Prince, Vegeta could really train Gohan to a great level.
Its not just training, Gohan isn't fighting astronomically stronger guys as well. The zenkai boosts are ridiculous for Goku and Vegeta as well. But yes, he needs to keep training!
Gohan has more potential than anyone in super
possibly!
bloodgodamon not broly
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Kevin P. N’Guessan naw broly trained with his weak ass father while gohan trained with goku and piccolo
That's highly debatable at this point. Especially when u got Frieza, Broly, The Androids, Goku Black and The other universe saiyans as candidates.
Ahh gohan.. see the problem with this character is, his conflicting backstory. On the one hand, Toriyama wished for him to become the main after kakarot, however fans were not pleased. On the other hand, it was always stated that the characters' own wishes, was to in fact, become a scholar. So in terms of the series, this created a paradox. Had toriyama had his way, gohan would've been fantastic, but completely at odds with his own lore and story. But with the fans having their way, gohan was slipped into a more obscure role, although absolutely FANTASTIC during the buu saga. Mystic gohan? Goosebumps. If kakarots' incomplete ultra instict is used as a benchmark, i'd say mystic gohan is a lite version, say, 20% ish of what kakarot did during that [spoiler] event the very first time with Jiren.
All in all, fantastic character, disappointed after mystic, as i expected something to come of that. However the revival in super, especially with all the other older characters that faded from the spotlights, i think he had a fantastic arc of his own.
Been waiting for this one 👏👏
Next episode: what if King Kai taught the rest of the Z fighters the Kaio-Ken. Do something with Kaio-Ken. Don’t care what it is.
I think he might have got potential in the next super series never know. 🤷♂️🤷♂️
i hope so!
Is anyone going to talk about how 17 and 18 blew his arm off and then killed him after (presumably) years of constant battling?
Good to see Geek and Seth work together.
When they introduced seth my screen started shaking, Yes SETH
he did good work!!!
@@Geekdom101 could do more qna and can do more relationships video s
@@Geekdom101 Indeed
Wanna thank u both for looking deeper into Gohans potential than most would! I'm sharing this immediately
I'm late but this was a very fun and high spirited video. Great work geekdom!!!!!
I don’t really think Dyspo is beyond Golden Freeza level in anything but speed.
Phil Merc
Indeed
He would probably be the strongest character in dragonball. IF he was training as much as Vegeta, he would easily surpass Goku, he would probably be somewhere between Goku and Whis.
So Beerus?
@@Scorchwad Maybe a bit less than Beerus? We cant know for sure to compare that.
6:59....🧡🖤🥱😨yeah, I am going to have nightmares.
If gohan never stoped training he could body grand xeno
Gohan - strongest Z character in end of Z series even without training 7 years
That’s how powerful he was..
Yeah thanks to old kai. Not gohan
@@joshperkins5974 All that old kai did was unlock Gohan's potential with his new form essentially he gave Gohan a way to use all his current potential which gets stronger if he trains so for example let's say pre Z-sword Gohan was a 10 in power, post a day or two of training with the Z-sword he is around the same level as base Goku who mind you trained for 7 years to reach his current power and Gohan is maybe even stronger but for now let's say they are both at a 100, Old Kai didn't give him extra power all he did was give Gohan direct access to his own power so that power he uses to beat the shit out of Super Buu is all Gohan.
Goku was the strongest character at the end of z
@@calvinrump3558 Nope. Vegito was the strongest fused char while Ultimate Gohan was the strongest unfused char. HOWEVER, if we're talking about End of Z Goku ie; Uub fight, then maaaybe... provided Gohan slacked off again.
I’ve been waiting for this colllab for a long time. 😀😃
always a pleasure to work with Seth.
You know the best part of UA-cam 6 months after this video? No more damn shadow legends.