Motörhead - Overkill (first time album reaction)

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  • My first time listening to Motörhead's Overkill! I'll see you soon for another video with more heavy metal, hard rock and prog metal reactions.
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    00:00 intro
    01:00 Overkill
    06:14 Stay Clean
    08:55 (thoughts i)
    10:09 (I Won't) Pay Your Price
    13:07 I'll Be Your Sister
    15:59 Capricorn
    20:08 No Class
    22:47 Damage Case
    25:48 (thoughts ii)
    26:43 Tear Ya Down
    29:23 Metropolis
    32:58 Limb from Limb
    37:52 (review)
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  • @markbailey4026
    @markbailey4026 25 днів тому +12

    BTW Lemmy was in Hawkwind before Motorhead,Silver Machine worth a listen featuring Lemmy.Hawkind very trippy but,great live and if you off with the fairies.

  • @markbailey4026
    @markbailey4026 25 днів тому +11

    saw original lineup at Hammersmith in London,loudest band ever.At the end instead of encore Lemmy came back out and told everyone to f#ckoff.My mate was so stoned slept through whole show,my ears still ringing.

    • @markferrett700
      @markferrett700 22 дні тому +1

      I was there too...I'm deaf as a post now😂😂😂😂....no regrets🎸

  • @JeffreyTheTaylor
    @JeffreyTheTaylor 25 днів тому +8

    Both "Capricorn" and "Metropolis" are Lem and the boys experimenting with more air and space in the mix. The results give us a call back to the more groovy, trippy Hawkwind days. "Limb From Limb" is noteworthy because Lem plays the second guitar solo on the song. Producer Jimmy Miller helmed several Rolling Stones classic albums.

  • @RoguSpanish
    @RoguSpanish 25 днів тому +12

    Am I the only one who would recommend This Godless Endeavor by Nevermore? That album is such an incredible masterpiece but I never see anyone bring it up.

    • @kirawasadiver
      @kirawasadiver 25 днів тому +2

      I actually listened to one track off that album over on my Patreon hahahah

    • @FrancescoDeBiasi
      @FrancescoDeBiasi 21 день тому

      You triggered some good memories mentioning that album

    • @ddd869
      @ddd869 12 днів тому

      I would definitely second that.

  • @freddiemossberg7204
    @freddiemossberg7204 25 днів тому +5

    Being both a fan of Motörhead, Black Sabbath and Electric Wizard I think you’ll really like High On Fire 🔥

  • @WHORTH-TheUglyDucklingOfFORTH
    @WHORTH-TheUglyDucklingOfFORTH 25 днів тому +6

    This is the Motörhead (or any) album with the greatest seismic impact. Nothing like it had been heard before. in particular the song overkill was something completely new. I also like that the album is so varied. Back then the best we could do for a playlist was to put one side of an album on repeat (or record a mix tape). Nothing will ever top overkill... and after 10000 repeats capricorn is an acquired taste :-) - Getting hold of this album as a young teenager when it was new and unique means I can hardly pretend to be unbiased thou.

  • @gustavogeres5993
    @gustavogeres5993 25 днів тому +6

    My favorite Motorhead album!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @Giovanni_Rizzo
    @Giovanni_Rizzo 3 дні тому +1

    I really like your channel!
    You listened to my 2 of 3 favourite Motorhead album (Overkill and Overnight Sensation). The third album is Inferno, maybe the best of 3. I highly recommenend it! You'll feel the true essence and power of Motörhead!

  • @chrisbanks6659
    @chrisbanks6659 25 днів тому +15

    "We are Motorhead and we play Rock n Roll"
    Lemmy - best Prime Minister we never had.

    • @mrtveye6682
      @mrtveye6682 24 дні тому +3

      And then there was Nosher Powell, the best Home Secretary you never had... :D

  • @nickdrage5774
    @nickdrage5774 24 дні тому +4

    You should definitely check out the MC5. Along with The Stooges, they're considered one of the earliest forerunners of Punk Rock. They were a huge influence on Motörhead, The Damned and most of the early punk scene.
    Fun Fact: Lemmy actually briefly played bass in The Damned. There's also videos of Lemmy and Dave Vanian jamming with surviving members of the MC5.

  • @AngryKefir
    @AngryKefir 25 днів тому +4

    I recommend (again) the live taping "Motörhead - Stage Fright" Live from Düsseldorf, Germany in 2005.
    One of their best live performances !!!

  • @LarryFleetwood8675
    @LarryFleetwood8675 25 днів тому +4

    They're almost like a heavier version of ZZ Top, the punk and space rock really shines through in early Motorhead also. The debut's good too I think you'll like every album after this one. Bomber, Iron Fist, Another Perfect Day, Orgasmatron, Rock 'n' Roll - and of course, their classic live album No Sleep 'til Hammersmith, everything's even better there than the studio versions...

  • @astrogallotron
    @astrogallotron 25 днів тому +2

    Capricorn is one of my all time favorite Motörhead song. It's so psychedelic, it should be a Hawkwind song too.

  • @steveking3434
    @steveking3434 19 днів тому +1

    I also love Motorhead, especially this era. But my favourite Lemmy related track is 'Orgone Accumulator' by Hawkwind from the classic Space Ritual album. Bob Calvert's vocals and the mix of heavy effected guitar, sax, synth and audio generators is awesome - but Lemmy basically plays a 10 minute bass solo driving the whole thing along .

    • @toro5280
      @toro5280 13 днів тому

      I would definitely check it out. Not a bass fan really, but I always loved the Stay clean bass solo.

  • @Lemmys_Mole
    @Lemmys_Mole 25 днів тому +3

    I hope you do "No Sleep" after Ace of Spades, you'll get all the volume & speed you're looking for!

  • @Draculafreak
    @Draculafreak 24 дні тому +2

    I would highly recommend their live album "No Sleep 'Til Hammersmith". Nearly every track on that album I prefer to their studio counterparts including every track they play from Overkill. I consider it one of the best live albums out there.

    • @jonibz1456
      @jonibz1456 23 дні тому

      Yeah i had this in my Motörhead collection first and agree with loving the live versions the best.

  • @reynardsawyer7660
    @reynardsawyer7660 25 днів тому +4

    I'm a fan of your full-album reactions Kira - have you ever listened to any Psychobilly or Rockabilly Revival?
    Check out the album Tiger Army by Tiger Army. I think it would tickle your fancy. It's the band's first album, one of many excellent listens.

  • @MB-oc1nw
    @MB-oc1nw 25 днів тому +3

    This and Bomber are my two top Motorhead records

    • @LarryFleetwood8675
      @LarryFleetwood8675 25 днів тому +1

      Mine too but come to think of it, maybe Kira will like Bomber a bit less actually because it is somewhat slower overall like the mid-tempo songs here it's more bluesy courtesy of Eddie (who even lead sings a song) so it may be less up her alley if she's more into the faster stuff. In a sense, Motorhead didn't truly become super fast until the Campbell/Dee era in the '90s where it's more metal than more traditional rock'n'roll grooves.

  • @nidgeontour257
    @nidgeontour257 13 днів тому

    Great album, I've got the overkill artwork as a tattoo on my arm. Limb from Limb is probably my fav track after Overkill.

  • @Steve_42_
    @Steve_42_ 24 дні тому +1

    They often ended shows with Overkill. What a way to send the audience out on a high. I miss Lemmy, never had a bad time at a Motorhead show.

  • @robertphelps1574
    @robertphelps1574 25 днів тому +2

    The riff on No Class reminds me of Tush by ZZ Top

  • @davidnewton1287
    @davidnewton1287 12 днів тому

    I could listen to music with you allday everyday

  • @abdullahboyraz4983
    @abdullahboyraz4983 24 дні тому +4

    female version of Lars
    enjoying Motörhead

  • @robertcharlton7498
    @robertcharlton7498 11 годин тому

    I think a lot of folks have a certain perception of Motörhead as just being fast and loud, which indeed they were, but it often leads people tob either forget or overlook just how experimental Motörhead were, Overkill is perhaps my favourite album because it covers all the bases

  • @TheMoosehead68
    @TheMoosehead68 15 днів тому

    Good choice this is my favorite Motörhead album. Yes it is much slower, but I like that. It has much more of a classic rock vibe. By the way, I love Capricorn. There’s a reason Motörhead included it in their set list for decades and decades. I’ve probably seen Motörhead 12 times .

  • @1danwynn
    @1danwynn 25 днів тому +1

    SO, I really hope this album grows on you, Kira, because it's widely regarded as Motorhead's best. But the way to approach it is to think of it more as a giant, slow lumbering beast - bluesy and, dare I say it, sexy ❤. The tempo is often slow but the energy, if you can feel it, is intense. Almost tantric 😂. Once you stop looking for what you want, you'll get what you need... I'm just throwing in some life advice there, but it also applies to this album 😂. And Capricorn is meant to be spacey 🙂. But even if it never clicks for you, there's plenty of awesome fast Motorhead out there for you too! 😃

  • @bayareathrasher666
    @bayareathrasher666 24 дні тому +2

    One of the best albums...ever

    • @samb9329
      @samb9329 20 днів тому

      The live no sleep till Hammersmith one of the best live albums of all time.

  • @gvehar
    @gvehar 24 дні тому

    Just got Motörhead’s Another Perfect Day 40th anniversary edition, it’s got a brand new show included, plus some demos. Great editions coming out these past few years!

  • @KevPage-Witkicker
    @KevPage-Witkicker 25 днів тому +1

    Motorhead being fast; Burner, Devils, Death Or Glory, Locomotive, On your feet or on your knees, I'm so bad, Rock N' Roll, Blackheart, Make my day, Sacrifice, R.A.M.O.N.E.S., Shine, Mean Machine, Riding With The Driver.... there are more but that's a good selection

  • @keithwatkins7908
    @keithwatkins7908 24 дні тому

    Thank you for the excellent reaction, thank you Motorhead for your brilliance. You say "Overkill" song was top ten, then top five...... and for me its number one. A bombastic start to a brilliant album, that provides us with the rock 'n' roll we continue to love.

  • @cerbuscankerous3714
    @cerbuscankerous3714 20 днів тому

    I haven't listened to this album since it came out, they were such a change of pace from the other metal bands at the time, Saxon would be the nearest comparison. My favourite track of theirs is 'iron horse born to lose' there's a live version that slows it down, its awesome.

  • @dragonmac1234
    @dragonmac1234 20 днів тому

    RIP Lemmy, Philthy Animal and Fast Eddie, the best Motörhead line up in my opinion. I first heard Overkill back in the day and I've been a huge fan since then, I hope their amps are turned up to 11 and they're playing together in that great gig in the sky.

  • @electricwizard3000
    @electricwizard3000 25 днів тому +1

    Tons of great albums from Motörhead - but Overkill is THE ONE!

  • @tomstrawbridge6319
    @tomstrawbridge6319 25 днів тому

    In metropolis, the bits where hes singing "i dont care" is pretty much the main riff for their later song 'Loser' which is an absolute banger btw you should definitely check it out

  • @frankj10000
    @frankj10000 25 днів тому +2

    I really love Capricorn. To me the production of that song i not bad at all but rather enhancing the spacy atmosphere of the song. The only Motörhead album that really is badly produced (in my opinion) is their debut ("Motörhead", from 1977) which is overall too quiet.

    • @1danwynn
      @1danwynn 25 днів тому

      I agree. It's like we're flying through the Capricorn constellation. Lemmy was in Hawkwind, after all - a space rock band 🙂

  • @m.b-ee8815
    @m.b-ee8815 21 день тому

    They had a real swagger, the early riffs.

  • @dariiofernando
    @dariiofernando 25 днів тому

    KIRAA A A how are you, any news??😄
    Motorhead is not one of my favorite bands, although my favorite album of theirs is Iron Fist. I also greatly appreciate their legacy for the influence they had on many punk bands that came after them. I hope to see more reactions to punk/post-hardcore or extreme metal, perhaps death metal? ^^

  • @ExUSSailor
    @ExUSSailor 22 дні тому

    Rest in Power, "Fast Eddie" Clarke, "Philthy Animal" Taylor, and, the immortal embodiment of Rock 'N' Roll, Lemmy.

  • @crimsondeath7468
    @crimsondeath7468 25 днів тому +1

    my favoritt Motorhead album

  • @sumonjamal1653
    @sumonjamal1653 23 дні тому

    Motorhead's "Overkill" is as essential a record as 'Ace of Spades' because it really captured the foundation of the band and their music... They played a number of songs off this album live in concert for their entire career.
    Initially, Lemmy Kilmister (vocals & bass) formed Motorhead in 1975 w/ Larry Wallis (guitar) and Lucas Fox (drums)... Lemmy's former band Hawkwind had a label that funded a Motorhead album, but it was rejected in 1976 because they complained it had no bass (Lemmy played bass w/ distortion like a rhythm guitar)
    Lucas Fox was soon fired and replaced by Phil 'Philthy Animal' Taylor (drums)... They added 'Fast' Eddie Clarke (guitar) as Larry Wallis soon left Motorhead... The band played gigs but were broke by 1978 and ready to fold when Chiswick Records in the UK offered to record Motorhead's debut album in 1978 - It was the same record done in '76 w/ Wallis & Fox but sounded much better w/ Philthy & Eddie.
    Despite the low expectations for the '78 debut album 'Motorhead', the band shocked critics when their cover of 'Louie Louie' became a hit single in the UK... UK label Bronze Records offered Motorhead a multi-record contract soon after.
    Musically, Lemmy felt that Motorhead was closer to the Ramones than Judas Priest... drummer Philthy also wanted to play the double bass drums and practiced until the intro to 'Overkill' came together... However, the band was volatile and 'Fast' Eddie Clarke would often clash w/ Philthy and Lemmy in the studio and on the road. But the line-up had serious creative chemistry and the songs for 'Overkill' came together quickly... They hired former Rolling Stones producer Jimmy Miller for the record but according to the band, Miller was a drug-addicted mess by that point (Miller quit the music business soon after) ... Still, a number of classic Motorhead songs came together on the record -
    'Overkill' ... 'Stay clean' ... 'Metropolis' ... 'Damage case'... (Metallica's James Hetfield was a huge fan of the record when it became available in the US in the early 80's... American record labels were unwilling to release Motorhead records in the US initially... Dave Mustaine of Megadeth was also a huge fan)
    'Overkill' charted in the UK at #24... but an injury forced Motorhead off the road in 1979. So, the band went back into the studio to finish another record and that became the 'Bomber' album that was released the same year... It charted even higher in the UK (#12) as Motorhead returned to the road... Strangely, United Artists who had rejected releasing the first Motorhead album in 1976 opted to release the record in 1979 as 'On parole'... to shamelessly capitalize on Motorhead's growing popularity.
    'Ace of Spades' came in 1980 and Motorhead had a top 10 hit in the UK against all odds... Their grueling touring was captured on their first live album in 1981 'No sleep til Hammersmith'... It went all the way to #1 on the UK charts and is considered an essential record in the hard rock/ heavy metal genre.
    Motorhead were burnt out by 1982 but obligated to deliver a new album... 'Fast' Eddie Clarke produced the album 'Iron Fist' that year but his dissatisfaction in Motorhead was becoming a negative factor and he was out of the band in the middle of that tour... Lemmy felt that 'Iron Fist' was not a particularly satisfying album.
    Motorhead recruited ex-Thin Lizzy guitarist Brian 'Robbo' Robertson in 1983 and recorded the album 'Another perfect day'... but Motorhead fans hated the new guitarist and the album sold poorly... Robertson was out of the band by 1984 and drummer Philthy soon followed him out.
    In 1985, Motorhead announced that 2 new guitarists had joined the band - Mick 'Wurzel' Burston and Philip 'Zoom' Campbell w/ drummer Pete Gill... They announced the album 'No remorse' w/ a 10th anniversary tour that had a live gig filmed and released years later as "The Birthday Party'.

  • @LQSAYANHQV
    @LQSAYANHQV 11 днів тому

    The best Motörhead album.

  • @wolfjesus543
    @wolfjesus543 25 днів тому

    I see you have the book House of Leaves. Did you ever read it all the way through?

  • @lawrencefine5020
    @lawrencefine5020 20 днів тому

    Overkill is a great album.
    But Another Perfect Day is my favorite Motorhead album.
    Robbo killed it.
    Btw, this version of Capricorn is bad admittedly.
    But the version of Capricorn on their No Sleep Till Hammersmith live album is brilliant comparatively.

  • @ResiFamily
    @ResiFamily 24 дні тому

    Don't sweat it, we'll get it back to you...

  • @lorenzosandoval7328
    @lorenzosandoval7328 24 дні тому

    You should check out some 90/2000s metal! I'd recommend these ones
    - "Hybrid Theory" - Linkin Park
    - "Cowboys From Hell" - Pantera
    - "Korn" - Korn
    - "The Sickness" - Disturbed
    these are just some of the biggest ones i can think of that defined metal genres at the time

  • @jasonfreak99
    @jasonfreak99 24 дні тому

    I heard an interview with Lemmy that he wrote Capricorn in like 15 minutes or something lol so there is your answer. Pretty sure the record company wanted one more track.

  • @KevPage-Witkicker
    @KevPage-Witkicker 25 днів тому +2

    If you like Motorhead when they're fast, you HAVE to listen to the BASTARDS album, and soon!

    • @LarryFleetwood8675
      @LarryFleetwood8675 25 днів тому +2

      Of their 'later' career (even though it's 31 years old now), that's my fave too.

    • @Fleig.
      @Fleig. 25 днів тому

      And if you like heavy, Sacrifice

    • @KevPage-Witkicker
      @KevPage-Witkicker 25 днів тому

      @@LarryFleetwood8675 My favourite is ROCK N ROLL but it's the first Motorhead album I heard/owned/listened to death, and they're the ones that tend to stick with you:)

  • @alojz300
    @alojz300 20 днів тому

    yesssssssssss

  • @SunRefracted
    @SunRefracted 9 днів тому

    Where are you located? My band is looking for a bassist in New York City we have upbeat and dark songs similar to the Clash’s first album

  • @thunderspike1892
    @thunderspike1892 24 дні тому

    What got me into metal was Ace Of Spades. Also bought their next album Iron Fist from 1982. Was disappointed. Never did anything for me. Later bought No Sleep Till Hammersmith live and the compilation No Remorse. Came in a leather sleeve. A little smelly 🤣

  • @fundymentalism
    @fundymentalism 24 дні тому

    Stay Clean has the best bass solo

  • @snuffcore9686
    @snuffcore9686 24 дні тому

    Suggestion: Snuff Said, by Snuff of course. 😊. One of the best pop-punk records ever

  • @RoCoeurAngel
    @RoCoeurAngel 24 дні тому

    If you're looking for something fast, I recommend 'Indiputed Attitude' by Slayer. 😁

  • @paulhadfield7909
    @paulhadfield7909 25 днів тому

    its a good album, my fave is 'iron fist' its the first i bought, asi didn thave any money when i was 14 and previous albums came out lol

  • @peroskarstorholm4196
    @peroskarstorholm4196 24 дні тому

    I heard Lemmy say that no matter how bad a show went it was perfectly allright as long as they played Overkill in the end.

  • @mutenoise33rpm22
    @mutenoise33rpm22 25 днів тому

    You got the order of the releases wrong. Overkill is the second Motorhead album, Bomber (that you already did) is the third and next is Ace of Spades.
    Anyway, I enjoyed your reaction one more time and I'm really glad that you listen to the whole albums instead of only the famous songs

  • @lovers_cult
    @lovers_cult 6 днів тому

    Hello, please react to Colour The Small One - album by SIA! Such a beautiful album with raw instrumentals - from before Sia becoming a popstar

  • @herbicide73
    @herbicide73 15 днів тому

    I saw a few of your videos.. Im into it.. I recommend Nine Inch Nails. if you never got into them anyway.. Start with the first album and just work your way thru.. I believe you will enjoy

  • @richpeltier9519
    @richpeltier9519 25 днів тому

    Oh yeah! But have you heard 1916 yet? Completely A-typical to their sound. yet arguably Lemmy's best vocal performance.
    Maybe the only exception to "Motorhead should jus stay fast".
    I also prefer the rawness of the first couple albums. I never got to see the OG lineup live, but I did see Eddie with Fastway just after he left Motorhead.
    🤘🧙‍♂🤘

  • @peroskarstorholm4196
    @peroskarstorholm4196 24 дні тому

    Hard Rock in 1978 was never much harder than this, so yes it’s quieter and quite far from the rabid ‘louder than everything else’ beast they became later. But it’s a great album when you get used to the slower tempos and the 70’s production. Songs are generally really good, so it works despite those setbacks. And If you want it faster, just put on ‘No Sleep ‘til Hammersmith’ from 1981, one of the best live Rawk albums there is ;)

  • @doomlava222
    @doomlava222 17 днів тому

    I don't have money to give, but if you could listen to any band, please check out Katatonia - The great cold distance. You'll fkn love them. ❤️

  • @JoeThornhill
    @JoeThornhill 24 дні тому

    Now that I'm listening to the album for the first time too and I think about it, Overkill should be faster than the rest, for it to make sense.

  • @independenceltd.
    @independenceltd. 25 днів тому

    top 3 album by Motorhead, fer shure

  • @angharaddenby3389
    @angharaddenby3389 24 дні тому

    Part of the problem lay with the producer not really being used to a band like Motorhead - and let's not forget, they were a rock 'n' roll band first and foremost. Just with plenty of oomph!!

  • @schelin1447
    @schelin1447 21 день тому

    This is kind of where Heavy Metal started...fast pased, agressive, guitar solos and no remorse! The say Black Sabbath started it all, and yes they got it all heavy but Motörhead got it fast and aggressive. Venom is another band you should check out, clearly inspired by Motörhead (and Kiss). The beginning of Black Metal.

  • @Hemimike426
    @Hemimike426 2 дні тому

    Hear n' Aid stars when?

  • @Claes_Isacson
    @Claes_Isacson 25 днів тому

    Yea, Capricorn was poorly produced on this album. It really was a great song when one saw Motörhead live though. There’s a quite good version on the “No Sleep 'til Hammersmith” album. Thx for sharing your Motörhead journey!

  • @RobertSmith-pl8oh
    @RobertSmith-pl8oh 24 дні тому

    Please do something on kirawasadiver,please.

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    @barsamoujebi2861 13 днів тому

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    @barsamoujebi2861 20 днів тому

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  • @will-mc2ci
    @will-mc2ci 20 днів тому

    Capricorn was slapped together at the last minute because the record company demanded 1 more song, that's why it feels so unpolished

  • @VultureLivesAgain
    @VultureLivesAgain 23 дні тому +1

    I think perhaps you haven't listened to enough Motorhead and have wrong ideas about what they're "supposed" to sound like.

  • @maken747able
    @maken747able 25 днів тому

    should listen to a gorilla biscuits song easy to listen hardcore

    • @maken747able
      @maken747able 25 днів тому

      respect from Ireland for liking hc btw haha

  • @WhatHaveIMade
    @WhatHaveIMade 25 днів тому

    The production is bad because Motorhead were still struggling and only signed on to a smaller record label. They didn't have the money to afford the studio time or personnel. The conditions were better for Ace of Spades. Plus they have said the speed they used during those recording sessions was top notch. After Ace they had the time and money for their next album - Iron Fist. Which has a lot of great songs too. Unfortunately they let Fast Eddie engineer the thing, and it sounds terrible.

  • @the_lichemaster
    @the_lichemaster 25 днів тому

    The production on this one has always a bit iffy. Also prefer Motorhead with more umph. Sacrifice albulm for example.

  • @herrglad9726
    @herrglad9726 24 дні тому

    I think this is my least favorite album of the classic line-up. My biggest favorite is Iron Fist. I recommend that to you.

  • @RobertSmith-pl8oh
    @RobertSmith-pl8oh 25 днів тому

    Cutie!!!

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    @KpopIsDead69 16 днів тому

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