first time listening to PROTO-DEATH METAL 💀 Death, The Possessed, Sepultura

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  • @kirawasareactor
    @kirawasareactor  27 днів тому +96

    death metal video featuring more Death, Obituary, Carcass, Bolt Thrower, Morbid Angel, etc. coming soooon (already up on patreon)
    and then the final Death Metal video will be the 4 from Sweden :)

    • @iDEATH
      @iDEATH 27 днів тому +3

      Aw, yeah! Nice lineup, especially cool seeing Celtic Frost in there. I'm *really* looking forward to that next one, though. I can't wait to find out what you thought about Carcass and Bolt Thrower. The rest too, but those two most of all.

    • @vierdo
      @vierdo 27 днів тому +2

      cant wait for that now u getting in to the roots of real death metal. And while you on it .. Get onto Vomitory. Entombed. At the gates.

    • @dariiofernando
      @dariiofernando 27 днів тому +1

      @@kirawasareactor this channel needs more death metal for sure 😅

    • @lanapearce9968
      @lanapearce9968 27 днів тому +2

      You also need to watch some live shows from the 80's and see what the crowds were like. Those gigs were insane, but so much fun. I remember when stagediving was banned because a kid broke his back at a Slayer gig in Newport or Cardiff. Obituary's first 'video' that MTV recorded at a Marquee show is a fun example.

    • @lanapearce9968
      @lanapearce9968 27 днів тому +5

      @@iDEATH Carcass and Bolt Thrower are the absolute giants of the British Death Metal scene!

  • @felipecampos3045
    @felipecampos3045 28 днів тому +288

    death is an amazing band, definitely deserves its own video

    • @FyreofShadow
      @FyreofShadow 28 днів тому +11

      Huge agree!

    • @OriginalWhiteTornado
      @OriginalWhiteTornado 28 днів тому +16

      Seconded. Even if you're not a fan of a lot of their contemporary death metal bands, Human and Crystal Mountain will win anyone over. They're so good.

    • @dba00
      @dba00 28 днів тому +13

      ​@@OriginalWhiteTornadoFor me Symbolic is probably their best album and one of the greatest albums ever. Everything from start to finish is just perfection

    • @peroskarstorholm4196
      @peroskarstorholm4196 28 днів тому +1

      All their albums are worth the effort and then some.

    • @cbn6635
      @cbn6635 27 днів тому +2

      @@dba00 To me the pinnacle of Death's/Chuck's discography. As you say, one of the few truly perfect albums out there.. 👌

  • @sputhoor96
    @sputhoor96 28 днів тому +132

    She said the napalm death production is good. She a real one

    • @jrk10
      @jrk10 28 днів тому +6

      Surprising tbh cause that first album isn’t mixed well at all love the album but napalm death got wayyy more brutal in the 2000s

    • @kirawasareactor
      @kirawasareactor  27 днів тому +16

      i think i said 'the production's not as good.. but i love what they're doing' hahaaha 21:18

    • @lanapearce9968
      @lanapearce9968 27 днів тому +4

      @@jrk10 It's basically two albums and two bands, you can hear the difference. I personally love those very early Earache records with the cheap production. FETO is to this day one of one of my favourite albums, and my favourite ND lineup.

    • @jrk10
      @jrk10 27 днів тому +3

      @@lanapearce9968 I prefer the stuff from enemy of the music business and onward but that being said they don’t really have a bad album

    • @thereagauze
      @thereagauze 25 днів тому +4

      ​@@lanapearce9968my favorite of early earache is the Heresy side of the split with concrete sox has such muddy production but you can still hear everything going on and the vocals are less "goofy" than much of the later stuff.

  • @umgfll7950
    @umgfll7950 28 днів тому +101

    if you want to dive more into death metal then you definitely need to check out Death's whole discography, Chuck's music influenced the whole genre. Love your channel!!

  • @adamlawson5021
    @adamlawson5021 28 днів тому +81

    If you like Celtic Frost and early Sepultura, you're gonna love Obituary.

  • @vocecaiunocontodomalakoi7541
    @vocecaiunocontodomalakoi7541 28 днів тому +157

    Death 90's run from Human to The Sound of Perseverance is one of the biggest music achievements in music history

    • @dr.juerdotitsgo5119
      @dr.juerdotitsgo5119 28 днів тому +15

      The drumming in Leprosy and Spiritual are understandably overshadowed by those albums, but imo is just as fantastic. No one made death metal groove like Bill Andrews.

    • @dba00
      @dba00 28 днів тому

      I agree, 4 absolutely incredible albums

    • @BObbert179
      @BObbert179 28 днів тому +10

      You mean their run from Scream Bloody Gore to The Sound of Perseverance. Not a single bad album and Leprosy is probably their best imo

    • @vocecaiunocontodomalakoi7541
      @vocecaiunocontodomalakoi7541 28 днів тому +4

      @@BObbert179 they are not bad albums, I'm just not personally crazy about og dm 😔, still, pull the plug is a banger of a song

    • @7ChaosBlack
      @7ChaosBlack 28 днів тому

      It's not.
      Immolation's run from Dawn of Possession to Unholy Cult is the single greatest run in all of death metal.

  • @DarrenWaters75
    @DarrenWaters75 28 днів тому +109

    The lead guitarist of Possessed was Larry LaLonde of Primus.

  • @thanosmat
    @thanosmat 28 днів тому +52

    Earlier Slayer albuns were very pivotal to Death Metal too. I love your reactions, waiting for the Death Metal video

    • @ian.swift.31614
      @ian.swift.31614 27 днів тому +3

      + the English Slayer, Onslaught

    • @Hecatecrossways
      @Hecatecrossways 9 днів тому +1

      ​@@ian.swift.31614Nearly every Onslaught song sounds identical, other than the Steve Grimmet album. Slayer songs each had distinct differences. Infernal Majesty, and Pre Terrible Certainty Kreator are closer to Slayer than Onslaught. I would consider Onslaught closer to Dark Angel, but more Speed Metal. The UK 🇬🇧 Destruction would describe them better. I really like Onslaught, despite many songs being similar. Early Destruction also had that style, it is a skill for a band to create songs that only have subtle differences.

    • @ian.swift.31614
      @ian.swift.31614 9 днів тому

      @@Hecatecrossways youre absolutely right that slayer songs all have their unique character compared to onslaught

  • @MB-oc1nw
    @MB-oc1nw 28 днів тому +44

    Can't go wrong with Celtic Frost and Death

    • @lanapearce9968
      @lanapearce9968 27 днів тому +2

      Also S.O.D - Celtic Frosted Flakes is a great parody Death Metal song honouring Frost.

  • @jip5889
    @jip5889 28 днів тому +30

    Death is really the best technical death metal band ever. RIP Chuck! I hope you listen to every single track of them. All are good.

  • @dnice4499
    @dnice4499 28 днів тому +25

    You were born to be a metalhead.

  • @eduardomartins3040
    @eduardomartins3040 28 днів тому +14

    Max, Igor and Paulo from Sepultura was between 14-16 years old when they did this álbum

  • @MrMalchir
    @MrMalchir 26 днів тому +14

    Being 13 years old (in 1985) and constantly looking for the most extreme band and then came Possessed. It blew my mind 😁. Celtic Frost and its predecessor Hellhammer are epic bands just like Death and Napalm Death. All very important for the evolution of Death Metal.

    • @timmy41
      @timmy41 25 днів тому +3

      Damn, I'm jealous you got to experience it all first hand! 😭
      Did you get into Bathory at all back then?

    • @MrMalchir
      @MrMalchir 25 днів тому +1

      @@timmy41 magical times. Listening to Mercyful Fate (The Oath) on your bed with the lights out for maximum spooky effect 😁
      Bathory I did not get into. We were heavily copying tapes and taping each others LPs but no one in my circle was into Bathory. I got really into Bathory around Blood, Fire, Death and later albums.

  • @giangiochannel767
    @giangiochannel767 28 днів тому +60

    Napalm Death is Grindcore for the first two/three albums, then they become more of a death metal band. They actually gave birth to grindcore with their first amazing album🔥

    • @VultureLivesAgain
      @VultureLivesAgain 28 днів тому +10

      I'd give that accolade to Repulsion, but Napalm Death was certainly more popular.

    • @giangiochannel767
      @giangiochannel767 28 днів тому +10

      @@VultureLivesAgain Yes, along with Repulsion they contributed to create Grindcore, for sure

    • @jrk10
      @jrk10 28 днів тому +2

      They definitely didn’t become more of a death metal band they were only more death metal for like 3-4 albums in the 90s then since enemy of the music business they’ve been grind since. I also think enemy of the music business is their best album

    • @estebansteverincon7117
      @estebansteverincon7117 28 днів тому +1

      They didn't 'give birth' to gindcore because bands like Deep Wound, Siege, etc, were already doing it years before Carcass. Death's 'Back from the Dead' rehearsal demo precedes Genocide/Repulsion, and that demo may have even inspired Repulsion since both Scott Carson and Matt Olivo tried out for Death in the 80's.

    • @enrique_necro
      @enrique_necro 28 днів тому

      Actually Unseen Terror havge the first Grindcore album, Napalm Death just became more popular (same with Necrophagia, they have the first death metal records, 1 month before Scream Bloody Gore) Napalm Death later bacame more Deathgrind

  • @keng6663
    @keng6663 28 днів тому +17

    Carcass is well worth a reaction started with grindcore evolved into melodic Death.. with the best song titles ever.

    • @MrPablo616
      @MrPablo616 27 днів тому +1

      Absolutley cannot wait for her to get to Carcass!

    • @diezz2588
      @diezz2588 27 днів тому +1

      damn she must check out “flesh ripping sonic torment” or whatever it is called
      fucking brutal demo

  • @brettanomyces7077
    @brettanomyces7077 28 днів тому +15

    Hell yeah! I'm seeing Possessed tomorrow with Kreator and Testament. The genre isn't named after the band Death, Possessed put out their first tape in 1984 and it was called "Death Metal"...

  • @Retayk
    @Retayk 28 днів тому +33

    Death is legendary for many reasons. But not only did they innovate in Death Metal, but as the band's career progressed, they innovated in Technical Death Metal. And when I say they, it's really just Chuck Schuldiner since he was the one constant in the band throughout its career. Sadly, he passed in 2001 but Death pretty much has no bad albums so the whole discography is worth hearing.

    • @joemiller7082
      @joemiller7082 23 дні тому +1

      I consider them the first proper death metal band.

    • @catpineconekit3490
      @catpineconekit3490 19 днів тому +1

      @@joemiller7082 they are the first proper death metal band

  • @konowd
    @konowd 28 днів тому +27

    Seven Churches is one of my favorite albums ever, glad people are discovering it

    • @richardmendoza738
      @richardmendoza738 24 дні тому +1

      Like, out of all the classic thrash albums like reign in blood and whatever are cool and all, but seven churches was always my favorite

    • @konowd
      @konowd 24 дні тому +3

      @ I think it’s still more brutal than 99% of what’s going on today.

    • @Fidelio116
      @Fidelio116 17 днів тому

      It's been discovered 39 years ago.

  • @gadpivs
    @gadpivs 28 днів тому +12

    "Is this how the track started? I can't even remember now, so much has happened." Welcome to death metal lol

  • @Brandonmtlhd
    @Brandonmtlhd 28 днів тому +14

    There was an example of a blast beat in the Napalm Death song, about halfway through when the drums switched to the really fast beat. That is a blast beat.

  • @TheAsphyx666
    @TheAsphyx666 28 днів тому +34

    Two Swedish bands you must not miss as you delve deeper into the genre are At The Gates and Entombed.

    • @BobS-0727
      @BobS-0727 28 днів тому +5

      Entombed is the Shit!

    • @chimbachungas6678
      @chimbachungas6678 28 днів тому +6

      And dismember

    • @No.U
      @No.U 28 днів тому +4

      Left Hand Path is the greatest metal album ever created

    • @BobS-0727
      @BobS-0727 28 днів тому

      @@No.U It is indeed a great album.

    • @kirawasareactor
      @kirawasareactor  27 днів тому +3

      yep i have the big 4 of swedish DM video to still do!

  • @descantinginsalubrious
    @descantinginsalubrious 28 днів тому +22

    IMO Carcass "Necroticism: Descanting the Insalubrious" and "Heartwork" and absolutely essential...really hope you listen to some of these tracks.

    • @kirawasareactor
      @kirawasareactor  27 днів тому +6

      they're in my upcoming dm video!!

    • @cbn6635
      @cbn6635 27 днів тому +1

      For a long time I preferred 'Heartwork', but with time I have come to like 'Necroticism' even more; such an amazing album; the perfect sweetspot between Carcass' earlier, nastier sound, and the melodic mastery found on 'Heartwork'. 👌

    • @candinhouber6544
      @candinhouber6544 9 днів тому +1

      ​@@cbn6635yeah Man i started with heartwork too but necroticism turned out to be my favourite, now im really diggin symphonies of sickness 🤘

    • @cbn6635
      @cbn6635 9 днів тому

      @@candinhouber6544 'Reek of Putrefaction' next? 😉

    • @candinhouber6544
      @candinhouber6544 9 днів тому +1

      @@cbn6635 i really like some songs off of reek but others Just sound like noise, its a 50/50 album for me

  • @BATTIS94
    @BATTIS94 28 днів тому +5

    8:33 That's actually Mike Oldfield's Tubular Bells, which was used as part of The Exorcist's soundtrack.

  • @ThunderTaco206
    @ThunderTaco206 28 днів тому +22

    The best album to get into Death with is their 1991 record, Human. It is the only album that Sean Reinert played drums on, and it is a true masterpiece. While very different musically, it and Opeth's Blackwater Park share both DNA and the distinction of being genre-defining records that created a clear before and after in metal music. Before the Human record, death metal was a lot like what you heard of Death in this reaction. After the Human record, death metal started to split. There were the bands that kept doing the old school stuff, and there were the bands who listened to Human and went, "Holy shit. I want to do that!" Sean Reinert's drumming was transcendent, and his performance on that record is a large part of why it is so important in the history of heavy music. He was, at the time, a 19 year old jazz drummer who didn't really have much experience with metal music. His identity as a jazz drummer informed his musical decisions in his parts, including how he approached double bass and odd times. It infected every bar and measure of the entire record, and was truly transformative. His friend (and bandmate in Cynic) Paul Masvidal played guitar on the record as well, and both of them then left Death to continue working on their own music in Cynic. Sean died unexpectedly a few years ago of heart failure at the age of 48. He was a great dude, and one of the single most influential drummers in metal music.

    • @Horseheadbookendz
      @Horseheadbookendz 28 днів тому +2

      Human and Focus were mind blowing albums, still are. RIP to the two Seans and Chuck.

    • @andreydiachenko2696
      @andreydiachenko2696 28 днів тому +1

      Yes, it's an amazing album, but I don't agree that it's the most accessible Death album. Personally, I had to listen to this album 5 times to understand it. The most accessible album from the Death`s discography is definitely Symbolic

    • @ThunderTaco206
      @ThunderTaco206 28 днів тому

      @@andreydiachenko2696 I didn't say most accessible. I said the best one to get into Death with.

  • @MetalMilitia83
    @MetalMilitia83 28 днів тому +9

    Death slowly transitions to progressive death metal over their discography and deserve a listen through. I’d check out a song from each album and see the evolution.

  • @metalheadgamer80
    @metalheadgamer80 28 днів тому +14

    While I always thought Celtic Frost (and Hellhammer for that matter) were more on the black metal side of things, they definitely were a HUGE influence on the death metal genre. Extreme Metal in general simply wouldn’t be the same without them.

    • @harrienelle6471
      @harrienelle6471 25 днів тому +1

      Absolutely! Obituary even covers Circle of the Tyrants.

    • @justsomejusstsome8994
      @justsomejusstsome8994 24 дні тому

      Yes, Celtic Frost were Thrash Metal that leaned towards BM and less DM

    • @Rozjebem
      @Rozjebem 17 днів тому

      Fun fact, Celtic Frost was also a great influence for the sound of Nirvana's Bleach album.

  • @johnnywithnell2806
    @johnnywithnell2806 28 днів тому +7

    Larry Lelonde, the crazy good guitar player for The Possessed is/was also the guitar player for Primus. I believe he was really young when Seven Churches came out.

    • @trevorsnell3344
      @trevorsnell3344 3 дні тому +1

      They were still in high school when they recorded that album

  • @alexvoyd1132
    @alexvoyd1132 28 днів тому +7

    Also I think you would find interesting to watch (and react) into "Black Metal By Fenriz" here on youtube. I dont think im allowed to post links. Its a 45 min video with the drummer of Darkthrone (originally a death metal band from norway) giving a "lesson" on the history of extreme metal music.Ignore the title of the video. The guy has fantastic character and charisma, I believe you will learn much and enjoy it at the same time!

  • @garyduckman8666
    @garyduckman8666 28 днів тому +13

    For a deeper dive into death metal you need to check out Bolt Thrower, especially stuff from their first 4 albums; In Battle There Is No Law (not on spotify), Realm Of Chaos, War Master and The IVth Crusade

    • @BobS-0727
      @BobS-0727 28 днів тому

      Their The IVth Crusade album is pure metal magic.
      I just listened to them last night driving home from Providence Ri. lol

    • @usgreth
      @usgreth 28 днів тому

      @@BobS-0727 I prefer ..For Victory personally, but yeah bolt thrower has to make an appearance on the channel, the only band I have bribed the door security to get in >_>

    • @aunti_fa
      @aunti_fa 25 днів тому

      hell yeah, probably my fav death metal band, theyre so groovy

    • @tommc3622
      @tommc3622 24 дні тому

      Warhammer 40k and Bolt Thrower FTW

    • @garyduckman8666
      @garyduckman8666 19 днів тому

      @@usgreth For Victory is a great album, but they were never the same for me after Andy Whale

  • @pekkokuopanportti6859
    @pekkokuopanportti6859 28 днів тому +8

    Celtic Frost is one of my all-time favorites, and also their late(st) comeback album Monotheist (2006) is to me a metal masterpiece.

    • @Underournorthernstar
      @Underournorthernstar 28 днів тому +2

      Dying god coming into human flesh is such a good song. Loved the first Triptykon record too.

    • @descantinginsalubrious
      @descantinginsalubrious 28 днів тому

      Seconded...Monotheist is an incredible album.

  • @andrewplck
    @andrewplck 28 днів тому +12

    Goodness me, it feels like yesterday she was reacting to mild, classic rock... They grow up fast.

  • @antondzajajurca7797
    @antondzajajurca7797 28 днів тому +6

    22:33 This is where grindcore (punk/thrash) parts starts :D (actually the whole song is grindcore song, but I prefer faster parts :D)

  • @Horseheadbookendz
    @Horseheadbookendz 28 днів тому +5

    So happy you’re finally diving into Death Metal. At the risk of oversimplification, Death Metal somehow became an extremely varied genre, perhaps its uniting factor is the presence of growled vocals.
    At the risk of further oversimplification, there were three distinct lines of early death metal that set the template for where the genre would go. Death would be the vanguard of the Tampa, Florida sound, they would set the course for the genre over and over again. Cannibal Corpse really set the template for the New York sound, and Entombed for the Swedish sound. I would hit something from each of those band next to see the solidification of the genre.

  • @burningthefields
    @burningthefields 26 днів тому +4

    Celtic Frost also made the first Gothic and Symphonic Metal album in one, "Into the Pandemonium." The track you listened to was from the previous album. They're probably the most innovative and unique band in Metal history after Black Sabbath themselves. Every album they have made has been different from all the rest. The singer/guitarist is now in the Gothic Doom Metal band Triptykon.
    A similarly unique artist with music with the same sort of themes is the Gothic Rock band Fields of the Nephilim, also well worth a listen. Those two make up my favourite bands of all time.

  • @ToxicGriever
    @ToxicGriever 28 днів тому +7

    Napalm Death sounds different because they're inventing grindcore with Scum. They would go on to play proper death metal later.
    Celtic Frost are a hard band to pigeon hole because they're stuff mixes thrash, death, black, doom, and gothic metal. You should listen to Into the Pandemonium for them at their most experimental and avant-garde.
    Possessed, Sepultura, and Death are the most typical for what death metal sounded like in the mid-1980s. Still rooted in thrash but beginning to become its own thing.

  • @anbarazen
    @anbarazen 28 днів тому +5

    My opinion is of talking about Proto Death Metal...
    Slayer's Hell Awaits in 1985 and the EP before it were an important blueprint for Proto Death...
    Slayer, Mercyful Fate, Early Sodom and Kreator all contributed to creation Of the Death Metal Sound...
    The Canadian Proto Death Metal band Slaughter album Strapaddo is another good Proto Death metal band...
    which in turn Influenced bands like Death,Possesed, Morbid Angel, Masrer...and others to further advance it to Death Metal
    For Me ...
    Morbid Angel- Altars of Madness
    Deicide-Legion
    Obituary-Slowly We Rot
    Entombed-Left Hand Path
    Suffocation-Effigy of the Forgotten
    ...are all esential classics of thr Genre...

  • @jamesmyrick9083
    @jamesmyrick9083 28 днів тому +2

    Love that Death made an appearance. Hope you drop a full video of them. Also, would like to suggest Obituary as a band to check out.

  • @cbn6635
    @cbn6635 27 днів тому +3

    The cool thing about Celtic Frost was that they were so much more than just a 'proto-deathmetal' band, more like a 'proto-everything' kind of band, having influenced both early death metal, early black metal, avantgarde metal and everything in between. A truly seminal band.
    Possessed are famous for coining the phrase 'Death Metal' with their track of the same name, but they themselves were never really a death metal band as we know the genre today, more like the furthest and most extreme you could take the thrash metal genre to back in the mid 80'es, and as such they had a HUGE influence on especially Death, and Death to me, IS the first through and through death metal band.
    Chuck Schuldiner of Death to me is the Mozart of death metal, and the cool thing about Chuck and Death is, that he/Death never made the 'same' album twice; ALL the Death albums evolved the bands sound immensely; the track you listened to shows their gore-obsessed, primal and raw beginnings, but Chuck evolved the music and especially the lyrics from album to album to heights very few artists in the death metal genre ever reached. R.I.P. Chuck Schuldiner...
    The thing about Napalm Death is, that they were never really a death metal band, but one of the creators of the Grindcore genre, a genre closely related to hardcore and punk, which probably is why you loved their sound so much?
    I feel you missed to hear a track from the band Massacre here; they had VERY stong relations to Death, and their frontman Kam Lee to me is THE 'grandfather' of the signature growling voice of the death metal genre; his growls are still to this day virtually unmatched in my opinion. Often imitated but seldom bettered.

  • @davidareeves
    @davidareeves 28 днів тому +2

    An a young teen, and hearing all these new genres evolving, was a teen dream for myself. Celtic Frost, Death, Sepultura, oh wow, so so many. There where tons of underground bands that never made it, especially here in Melbourne that I am aware of. My cousin coming back from Europe with all their underground demo tapes, was just the icing and opened a lot of doors for my ears to enjoy.

  • @s0rd3z
    @s0rd3z 28 днів тому +6

    First time reaction when I heard Death in 1989 "Oh damn.." Kira's reaction in 2024 "Oh damn...'". I guess it stills hits the same :)

  • @blahizard
    @blahizard 28 днів тому +8

    i can't wait for the swedish death metal video. THE guitar tone that defined that entire scene.

    • @cbn6635
      @cbn6635 27 днів тому +3

      Boss HM2 worship.. 😎

    • @lanapearce9968
      @lanapearce9968 27 днів тому +2

      @@cbn6635 The chainsaw pedal! Invented a guitar tone. That Entombed album is still ground-breaking, they were my age too, basically kids when they released it.

  • @martinwhite3559
    @martinwhite3559 28 днів тому +12

    The biggest early Death Metal Bands are Death, Cannibal Corpse, Morbid Angel, and Obituary. Cannibal Corpse is considered the biggest death metal band of all time. Their lyrics and music are very extreme, but you can't hear most of the lyrics due to the extreme vocals. What is death metal, you ask. Have you got a week. I think the genre is named after the possessed song death metal, but the band Death often gets credit too.

    • @BobS-0727
      @BobS-0727 28 днів тому

      Your list is spot on.

    • @nizz0matic307
      @nizz0matic307 28 днів тому +1

      @@BobS-0727 its a beginner list he just named the most popular bands of all time lol

    • @daevyl
      @daevyl 24 дні тому +1

      Cannibal Corpse is more popular, but I'd say Autopsy were the more innovative one. Also, Nihilist, Pestilence and, a bit later, Demilich - let's don't forget about Europe.

    • @BobS-0727
      @BobS-0727 22 дні тому +1

      @@daevyl Pestilence is hard AF.

  • @alexvoyd1132
    @alexvoyd1132 28 днів тому +4

    Celtic Frost's Monotheist, deserves a dedicated video in itself although not proto-death for sure

  • @VultureLivesAgain
    @VultureLivesAgain 28 днів тому +8

    Death started releasing demos in 1984. So they were already influential years before they released their debut LP in '87.
    Celtic Frost wasn't exactly proto-death metal. They were proto-extreme metal in general. Thrash, death, black metal - it's all in there. Early Sepultura was also an influence on both death and black metal. This "proto" stuff doesn't always fit neatly into a box.

    • @myopicautisticmetal9035
      @myopicautisticmetal9035 27 днів тому +1

      They were called Mantas in 1984.

    • @cobgod1415
      @cobgod1415 19 днів тому

      @@myopicautisticmetal9035 they were also called death in 1984. they changed their name from mantas to death after hearing the possessed "death metal" demo in 1984

  • @bigm010
    @bigm010 28 днів тому +5

    Definitely listen to some Autopsy in the future, one of the best death metal bands ever!

    • @heathen-heart
      @heathen-heart 2 дні тому

      Yes! the song "Dead" on the "Mental Funeral" album, I can listen to that one song for hours on end, well the whole album too, but that one song gets me hard lol.

  • @SavageIntent
    @SavageIntent 28 днів тому +6

    Good bands! A band that oft gets overlooked but are one of the best early death metal bands is Slaughter, and their 1987 album 'Strappado'! They even had Chuck Schuldiner from Death in the band.

    • @anbarazen
      @anbarazen 28 днів тому

      yes... I did mention Slaughter too... cheers mate

  • @MartinMaxFerdinand
    @MartinMaxFerdinand 28 днів тому +12

    Death definitely deserves a deep dive - and it is one of the few bands that is better to start with the last album (The Sound of Perseverance) and go back in their discography from there imo.

    • @VultureLivesAgain
      @VultureLivesAgain 26 днів тому

      @@MartinMaxFerdinand Nah.

    • @joemiller7082
      @joemiller7082 23 дні тому

      I think the opposite. Seeing the transition is the best part.

    • @MartinMaxFerdinand
      @MartinMaxFerdinand 23 дні тому

      @@joemiller7082 I think so too - for the most bands - usually the journey goes: approach them from where they begun, so you understand where they were coming from and what they became. There is no "right" or "wrong" here - it's just, that "The Sound of Perseverance" is way more accessible for someone not familiar with their work, than starting with "Scream Bloody Gore" - which is obviously the rougher listen imo - would you agree?
      In the end it is up to the content creator anyway. ;)

    • @joemiller7082
      @joemiller7082 23 дні тому

      @@MartinMaxFerdinand if I started with the Sound of Perseverance, I would have stopped there.

    • @warthunderpro28732
      @warthunderpro28732 21 день тому +1

      Sound of perseverence blows

  • @DanielMalefitz
    @DanielMalefitz 28 днів тому +5

    Celtic Frost is awesome. I wouldn't classify them as Proto Death. Rather Proto Black in their early phase.
    Their last album from 2006, Monotheist, leans heavily into very gritty Doom and Gothic metal. It's one of my favorite albums of all time.
    After Celtic Frost was disbanded 2008, the singer/guitarist Tom Warrior started a new band called Triptykon which follows the heavy Doom and Gothic metal path further.
    Overall the catalogue of the bands Tom Warrior was part of is very diverse and almost all of it is worth a listen.

  • @professoryaffle
    @professoryaffle 28 днів тому +3

    I first heard Celtic Frost on the Friday Rock Show on BBC radio 1 sometime in the 1980s. The song was called Return to the Eve. I'd never heard anything like it before and it unnerved the hell out of me. I eventually got to see them at Derby Assembly Rooms supported by Mordred in 1990. There were less than 20 of us in the audience and that's in an approx 1000 seat capacity room. Mordred got us all on stage with them there were so few people there. CF were definitely a band that didn't appeal to everyone! But I always loved them. Especially the craziness of Into The Pandemonium album.

    • @StuartDootson
      @StuartDootson 28 днів тому +1

      That was the first CF song I heard too - and on the rock show too! It must have made an immediate impression, ‘cause it was on one of the tapes I had of songs that I liked recorded from the rock show.

  • @ironbard316
    @ironbard316 28 днів тому +6

    Fun fact: Opeth has a cover of Circle of the Tyrants and it's really good too

  • @carne_verde
    @carne_verde 28 днів тому +4

    "Burning In Hell" should be the 1st track to listen to get the best representation of Possessed doing real proto-Death Metal in 1985 - I agree "The Exorcist" in its repetitiveness is not a good start for new ears, although _Seven Churches_ is an awesome album taken in its entirety.

  • @DanielleMoore-vg4lh
    @DanielleMoore-vg4lh 28 днів тому +4

    Napalm Death on top of being really early in Death Metal is also one of the first bands in the Grindcore genre which is pretty much Hardcore Punk cranked up to 1000.

  • @biloubill77
    @biloubill77 28 днів тому +3

    when i discovered Possessed in 1985 , i turned to death metal and Grindcore 2 or 3 yaars earlier .
    and i loved that since !!

  • @jamesalvarez3798
    @jamesalvarez3798 27 днів тому +4

    can’t wait til you’re getting whiplash listening to Suffocation & Dying Fetus. Try not to laugh or gasp at the names haha they’re the epitome of death metal imo and all kinds of fun.

  • @ArielBejarano-iy6sh
    @ArielBejarano-iy6sh 27 днів тому +3

    You should check Obituary. Specially the albums Slowly we Rot or Cause of Death

  • @svartmetall
    @svartmetall 28 днів тому +9

    Would LOVE to see you do a full-album reaction to Celtic Frost's 'To Mega Therion' and 'Into The Pandemonium' albums...they're both absolute masterpieces :)

    • @lawrencefine5020
      @lawrencefine5020 28 днів тому

      To Mega Therion is a masterpiece, but gotta disagree with you on Into The Pandemonium. Monothiest I'd listen to before ITP

    • @VultureLivesAgain
      @VultureLivesAgain 26 днів тому

      @@lawrencefine5020 Nah, I think he's right. Into the Pandemonium is an interesting evolution of their sound. Perhaps you don't like it, but I think she'd have a fun time listening to it.

  • @andygreen6836
    @andygreen6836 28 днів тому +5

    Entombed's Left Hand Path needs to be included as the vanguard for the Swedish buzzsaw guitar sounds. Also, please bear in mind this amazing album was written by teenagers

  • @ocean_machine
    @ocean_machine Місяць тому +29

    the genre is actually named after the Possessed song "death metal" from the seven churches album. big missed opportunity on the part of your patrons.

  • @dinistrindade09
    @dinistrindade09 28 днів тому +2

    I enjoy the contrast between your vibe reacting to the songs and then the songs vibe, it gets funny

    • @7piecebucket
      @7piecebucket 26 днів тому

      12:01 "Tee hee hee hee! His vocal performance is so funny." 😃

  • @lamine3020
    @lamine3020 28 днів тому +38

    Wait until you get to the late 80s Swedish scene that birthed melodic death metal

    • @kirawasareactor
      @kirawasareactor  28 днів тому +11

      yes that is part of the plan!!!

    • @hazzard7653
      @hazzard7653 20 днів тому

      @@kirawasareactor If you get to melodeath don't leave out Slaughter of the Soul by At The Gates. Also not quite melodeath but another Swedish death metal band is Entombed, the album Left Hand Path, they have one of the best guitar tones in death metal. Enjoy your journey through death metal!

  • @bajasmancer
    @bajasmancer 28 днів тому +4

    Opeth did a cover of Circle of the tyrants, heard the cover first, so that'll always be my favorite version : )

  • @CrabJuice83
    @CrabJuice83 28 днів тому +3

    Death is my all-time favourite band and I'm glad you enjoyed them.
    If you end up doing a "deep dive" into Old School Death Metal, bands like Death, Morbid Angel, Deicide, Suffocation, Obituary, and Malevolent Creation, are absolutely essential to the genre. (There's a lot more, but I'm going for brevity and variation here)

  • @davidviteris
    @davidviteris 28 днів тому +5

    Morbid Angel should be up next, if so, the track to start with must be 'Chapel of Ghouls'
    enjoyed this video a lot! 🤘

    • @Vex-st3hb
      @Vex-st3hb 20 днів тому

      My favourite to pair with that one is Maze of Torment. It's like its not complete if I don't listen to both haha

  • @Taunic
    @Taunic 28 днів тому +1

    Love it. I'm getting into this stuff from being a long-time listener of Opeth and love the new world they have opened up for me. Some of this stuff clicks where none of it has in the past. They actually did a cover on one of their albums of Celtic Frost Circle of Tyrants. Can't wait for you to get to Opeth's Still Life album if you are still planning on doing more of them.

  • @thegrimner
    @thegrimner 28 днів тому +7

    I mean, in very broad terms, death metal came from the same place as thrash, and more or less also came from thrash, so there's quite a bit of overlap, especially when we consider death metal to be a logical evolution from the heavier side of thrash, like Sodom, Kreator, and, in particular, Slayer.
    A very good way to think of metal subgenres during the 80s is kind of like an arms race, broadly speaking. NWOBHM was that little bit edgier and faster than Judas Priest or Sabbath, thrash took that further, and then death metal took it all almost to its logical conclusion. And Punk is ever present in most of 80s metal. Possessed in particular show that transition, it's thrashy, it's a bit sloppy and a bit punky in attitude and it's very inspired by Slayer, but you can hear in it the desire to be faster, dirtier and more aggressive.
    Stylistically, and again broadly speaking, death metal differs from thrash for it's distinctly guttural vocals, the famous "cookie monster" style that evolved from Slayer and Kreator and Bathory non melodic yelling, blast beats when they go fast and chugging riffs in tandem with double bass, along with a deeper, often detuned guitar sound.

    • @thegrimner
      @thegrimner 28 днів тому +1

      Also, your reaction to everytime these bands went a bit slower and chuggier definitely tells me we have a Bolt Thrower fan in the making. Also Obituary, Obituary is essentially Celtic Frost with a lot more chunk and chugging double bass all over the place.

  • @UnholyMistMonster
    @UnholyMistMonster 25 днів тому +1

    If you plan on digging deeper into the Death Metal swamp, you should check out the early Swedish stuff like Entombed, Grave and Unleashed and perhaps bands like At The Gates, Dark Tranquility and In Flames who got the whole melodic death metal thing going. Just an idea. It's quite different from the US scene. Also Death 🤘

  • @Thrasher0411
    @Thrasher0411 22 дні тому

    Your videos are amazing! I knew since I saw your appreciation for meshuggah that you would also appreciate death metal. It's my favorite genre and it made me so happy to see this posted and hearing you announce that it will be a series! Personal recommendations for later:
    Suffocation (Brutal Death Metal)
    Necropaghist (Technical Death Metal)
    Ulcerate (Dissonant Death Metal)
    Also Into the Crypts of Ray from the 1984 Celtic Frost album
    Keep it up!!🤟

  • @kolch93
    @kolch93 28 днів тому +6

    Sepultura from Brazil!! Porra🇧🇷

  • @Flugmorph
    @Flugmorph 24 дні тому +1

    you seemed to be into the drums in particular on zombie ritual. after that first death album the drummer, chris reifert, would go on to form his own band named autopsy which he drums and also does vocals in. he is my personal death metal hero, brings a sort of punky unhinged charm to both his drumming and his vocals. autopsy also plays with a lot of doom elements, meaning they go slow quite often so you will definitely enjoy those moments. definitely check out autopsy, either a track from their first album or one from their last 4 or so, can recommend them all.

  • @elcinocal8792
    @elcinocal8792 18 днів тому

    I love to see your kind, natural and cute reactions about the music I listen regularly. Keep going!

  • @revylokesh1783
    @revylokesh1783 26 днів тому +1

    Well now you made me subscribe. Early Death Metal is a nice rabbit hole!

  • @marcelo-vh9of
    @marcelo-vh9of 27 днів тому +2

    i think you would love the band autopsy, great atmosphere, lots of tempo changes, groove and a thick bass

  • @erosionoc5557
    @erosionoc5557 28 днів тому +2

    In case no one has mentioned it yet, that drumming that you love so much in Zombie Ritual is done by one Chris Reifert. Chris then went on to start Autopsy, where he both drums and does vocals. Would def suggest checking them out as well!

  • @setgreen7877
    @setgreen7877 28 днів тому +2

    Celtic frost is thrash avante gard, death metal really got prominent in the early 90s until 2000.
    Possessed is thrash w death parts and they had a song called death metal before even the band death or the genre. Possessed is the top band to introduce satanic themes and speed to thrash and further metal. Especially the vocals. Sepultura started out as a thrash/death metal band from Brazil. This song is more thrash. Napalm death is pretty death metal/grind punk. Death is just great and Death!!! The start of the genre and influence so many death metal bands to follow the formula.

  • @philcanselmo9436
    @philcanselmo9436 28 днів тому +9

    Morbid angel - altar of madness........🔥🔥🔥🔥

  • @MarcusAsenlund
    @MarcusAsenlund 24 дні тому +4

    Scum is a Proto-Grind. Napalm Death was not Death Metal in the Lee Dorrian era of their sound. When Barney joined they turned more into Death Metal. Scum and From Enslavement Of Obliteration are just pure Grindcore.

  • @lawrencefine5020
    @lawrencefine5020 28 днів тому +3

    I think Hellhammer (Celtic Frost before the name change.)is the earliest form of proto Death Metal.
    Even before Death, Possessed, Sepultura(by a hair).
    Btw, Death was the first OG Death Metal band..period. They are not proto Death Metal, Death is Brutal DEATH METAL. Especially Scream Bloody Gore and Leprosy.
    Other Proto Death Metal that need to be considered: Early Sodom, Kreator and Destruction., all German bands.
    This was a fun video.

  • @trenchgunM1897
    @trenchgunM1897 28 днів тому +5

    celtic frost's drummer reed st mark played using the largest sticks i have ever seen...

  • @hsmiranda
    @hsmiranda 24 дні тому +1

    Nice video, I'm happy for your news music discovery, I recommend listen Sarcofago (exemple 'Nightmare' song), one a great band from Brazil.

  • @andreasekman2176
    @andreasekman2176 28 днів тому +2

    Now,there's some good examples of early death metal,but there is SOOO more to find out....😅😊 DEATH 4-EVER!!!

  • @davecouillou
    @davecouillou 28 днів тому +2

    Ah!
    A Celtic Frost reaction is always welcome!

  • @tool-reflectionarmy6258
    @tool-reflectionarmy6258 27 днів тому +2

    Possessed was my favorite band in the 80's.

  • @michaelweber9108
    @michaelweber9108 28 днів тому +2

    There really is a selection of bands that started the entire extreme metal movement in the mid-80s. Of course, all the forefathers of Thrash Metal like Slayer, Metallica, Anthrax etc. already existed. But the bands selected really took the extreme level up a notch ! 🤘🤪 🤘

  • @Dani-x01
    @Dani-x01 26 днів тому +1

    Seen her jamming death metal with a wide open smiling makes my day better i was a bit down today 😊

  • @Krustenkaese92
    @Krustenkaese92 28 днів тому +2

    gotta check out the new Blood Incantation album 'Absolute Elsewhere'. I'm not the biggest death metal fan myself, I often find it way too show-off-y and technical but this one has super nice synth and spacey elements (plus a Tangerine Dream feature on one song which is so incredible to me), it knows how to be melodic without sacrificing the death metal edge and it decides to just turn into the 'galaxy map music' from Mass Effect whenever it feels like it and it doesn't feel out of place at all. It's an excellent album, I recommend it.

  • @descantinginsalubrious
    @descantinginsalubrious 28 днів тому +2

    Napalm Death are the godfathers of grind. The earlier stuff is a mix of punk,/crust/D beat...and..grind/blast. And as others have pointed out, the first several records Scum, FETO and Mentally Murdered are def more on the grind core side...Harmony Corruption is where they went way more to the death metal end of the spectrum. The last many albums are really not very death metal-y at all.
    "Transcending" is absolutely appropriate. Siege of Power is a great example of ND mixing up some "styles" and vibes. They actually re-recorded this with a different line up and released it on "harmony corruption."

  • @Elmonator
    @Elmonator 28 днів тому +2

    Death Metal in itself already has such a broad spectrum. If you really want to get deeper into it (which of course you don't have to), I can list some important subgenres of Death Metal:
    (Early) Florida Death Metal: Death, Deicide, Obituary -> quite straight forward, Thrash Metal-influenced; Atheist, Cynic, Nocturnus -> more experimantal/progressive/jazzy
    New York Death Metal: Suffocation, Immolation , Cannibal Corpse (a little more Hardcore-influenced)
    Stockholm Death Metal: Dismember, Entombed, Grave, Vomitory, Bloodbath -> famous for its very distinct "chainsaw" guitar sound
    (Gothenburg) Melodic Death Metal: Dark Tranquillity, At The Gates, In Flames -> more melodic, sometimes with keyboards or other instruments, started in the Swedish city of Gothenburg
    Groovier Death Metal (don't know if there is a proper name for it): Bolt Thrower, Asphyx, Hail Of Bullets, Grand Cadaver -> very groovy, headbangable, "stankface" galore :D
    Progressive Death Metal: Opeth, Edge Of Sanity, later Death -> more progressive approach, longer songs etc.
    Technical Death Metal: Necrophagist, Obscura, Cryptopsy, Gorguts, Defeated Sanity -> very technical, weird time signatures, the whole shabang. Basically music from musicians for musicians. :D
    other notable bands: Carcass (British band who went from Grindcore to Death Metal to Melodic Death Metal), Nile (US Death Metal with egyptian influences), Blood Incantation (very distinct in itself, can't really explain it :D)
    I know I forgot a lot of bands and probably even other subgenres of significance, but Death Metal just offers a lot of variety and completely different sounds. Would love to see a deep dive if you enjoy the music.

  • @myopicautisticmetal9035
    @myopicautisticmetal9035 27 днів тому +1

    Chuck had a band called Mantas in 1983/84 before he changed the name to Death, Mantas had a demo called Death by Metal in 1984 which is part of why he's credited with starting Death Metal. Death Metal evolved quicky from the Thrash metal scene and became it's own genre in the latter 80's when bands like Morbid Angel and Cannibal Corpse started flying the flag of Death Metal with pride.

  • @oregonwoodelf
    @oregonwoodelf 27 днів тому +2

    Scream Bloody Gore is the best album of this lot BY FAR!!🤘☠ Hail Chuck!

  • @BobS-0727
    @BobS-0727 28 днів тому +1

    #1. I am a Huge Napalm Death fan. I have been blessed to see them live and they do not disappoint.
    Although I love their early stuff the albums I truly love are Fear Emptiness Despair and their later albums such as Diatribes all the way through to Apex predator. Sepultura before Max left the band is another great band. It's hard to top Chaos AD,but leave it up to the band to come out with another great album Roots. And then there are the legendary bands such as Death and Obituary to round things out.
    I also love S.O.D. and MOD.
    If you want to step out a bit the Band Skrew released an awesome album called Dusted which is to date IMHO their best one.
    A little gem I have is from a band called the Game Hens. It's only got 4-5 tracks the cassette but it is f*cking awesome and super rare to find.
    1 other honorable mention is a band called Entombed. Their Wolverine Blues album is phenomenal.
    Just to throw out an opinion, the band Accept is to me the true grand daddy of power metal. If you want to check them out I suggest their Metal Heart album.
    No slight to Judas Priest and all the other great bands(Black Sabbath is in it's own category)but Accept set the stage for some pretty high energy metal.
    I'm gonna throw in some early punk. I used to hang out with Bob Noxious from Undead then later on the Fuck-ups back in my old S.F. days.
    He was a true alcoholic asshole and had some pretty far right views(thats putting it mildly) but if you get a chance, you should check out their EP FU82.
    They were literally the most hated band(Bob was for sure) in S.F. at the time they were playing. lol
    Thanks for putting out some great reactions to some epic bands.
    Have you done a reactions to NIN Downward spiral album yet?
    If not,you really need to.

  • @David-yp9ou
    @David-yp9ou 14 днів тому +1

    Please revisit Sludge Metal and do the UK kings of sludge, Iron Monkey.
    Today's Iron Monkey isn't quite the same, but please review their two albums, "Iron Monkey" and "Our Problem". These guys are true heavyweights of the genre. I'd say they are the UK version of Eyehategod.

  • @percey
    @percey 28 днів тому +3

    Please do a Celtic Frost video!

  • @konowd
    @konowd 28 днів тому +2

    If you like the drums on the first Death album, check out Autopsy. Chris Reifert played on the first Death album then formed Autopsy, a great band in their own right

    • @donaldcady3839
      @donaldcady3839 27 днів тому +1

      My favorite Death Metal band

    • @konowd
      @konowd 27 днів тому +1

      @@donaldcady3839 Love em and they’re the same band they’ve always been

  • @deathmetal0073
    @deathmetal0073 28 днів тому +4

    Death metal can have groove

  • @EncoreASMR
    @EncoreASMR 26 днів тому

    Tracking death metal history (along with black metal, grind and metalcore) is tough. I think Mantas (Chuck Schuldiner's demo band with Kam Lee) released the first demo tape with death metal stylings in 1984, although the likes of Venom and Celtic Frost emerged earlier. To complicate things, Possessed's Seven Churches is often branded as a cross between thrash and death metal. Apparently there was another death metal band Necrophagia (which featured Phil Anselmo of Pantera fame) released an album Season of the Dead in February 1987, months before Death's more prominent Scream Bloody Gore.

    • @blackwind677
      @blackwind677 25 днів тому

      To further complicate things, there's Master (started in 83') who used to be on the same label as Possessed but had trouble release an album. Until the 90s, it was mostly Master demos and other Paul Speckmann's projects (Death Strike and Funeral Bitch) which would later be put into Master's catalogue. Pretty well known to some death/grind folks. The band Terrorizer (with Pete Sandoval and Dave Vincent of Morbid Angel fame) is named after a Master song.

  • @tomaszwesoowskifromlechist6222
    @tomaszwesoowskifromlechist6222 28 днів тому +3

    Check Necrophagia first album.

  • @harryzimmerman7991
    @harryzimmerman7991 26 днів тому

    Sepultura was the gateway band to the heavier Metal for me back then, not only that, to the growing Death Metal scene, their next 2 albums "Beneath the Remains" and "Arise" were recorded by Scott Burns, who produced many DM bands at Morrisound Studios in Tampa, Florida for the next few years afterwards, two names you'll be seeing more of when you react to the next phase of Death Metal, bands even relocated to Tampa, in the case of Cannibal Corpse, who left Buffalo, NY to record with Scott Burns at Morrisound because they heard Beneath the Remains and wanted their sound like that! Sepultura really were the band to get that scene going in the late 80's-early mid 90's🤘

  • @HanzMerx
    @HanzMerx 26 днів тому +2

    Please react to the band Pain Of Salvation! Just like Opeth, this is also a prog metal band.
    I recommend that you react to the Album Remedy lane.

  • @jamesolivercalip2587
    @jamesolivercalip2587 28 днів тому +1

    That 'OOOH' from the Celtic Frost song is known as the death grunt used in early death metal vocals

  • @sirtoby2070
    @sirtoby2070 4 дні тому

    As a big death metal fan, I actually agree a lot with your criticisms of "The Exorcist".
    I think that song is a classic DM staple because it introduced so many classic elements to the table, but the structure is kinda repetitive and not well fleshed out. But then Possessed were a very young band in a very young genre when they made that album, and I think the recklessness is part of what made them so exciting!
    Also, the drummer on that Death album, Chris Reifert, went on to form one of my favorite classic death metal bands, AUTOPSY, where he plays drums and death growls at the same time. (How cool is that!) Their music's awesome and definitely worth a listen!