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not sure if you guys gives a shit but if you guys are stoned like me atm then you can stream pretty much all of the latest movies and series on InstaFlixxer. Have been watching with my gf for the last couple of weeks xD
This is actually interesting and promising new tech that I haven't seen on other DJ channels before, well done. Hopefully videos like this will give it the momentum for manufacturers to consider building it into their equipment.
I remember back in the day when you had to rush your dat tape down to the dub-plate factory to get your jam cut for your dj set later that night. Crazy to be alive to see the evolution of this culture.
Wireless mics and in ear monitors have been used in pro audio for ages, you see systems used on stage for singers and guitarists. Shure wireless have latency down to 3ms or so.
the people to Pioneer : This would be great to integrate into a new standalone controller Pioneer : Introducing the DDJ1200... it has more buttons!! the people to Pioneer : But you could have... Pioneer : BUTTONS!!
it’s amazing to see how far we’ve come from the days of carrying crates of vinyl and books of CDs. Now, we have Online Streaming Service, battery built-in and "wireless" technology. Did we ever think about all that future things? Time to say goodbye to "10 years old overprice technology".
What's wrong with cables again? Technology is fine I guess but what does that look like in real-life? Are clubs/festivals asking for wireless audio? Why would I want to have my mixer/turntables to be wireless? I'm not walking around, I'm mixing. Sounds like they're trying to reinvent the wheel there. Creating solutions for problems that don't exists.
Cables are great for clubs and venues with the foresight and resources to install a sound system. Us poor fools doing mobile gigs have to run our own cables, and when those cables have to cross foot paths, we run into problems. I've been using RF mic or IEM kits to extend audio wirelessly to speakers for a while now. I'm curious about how this device compares to those, because a good IEM kit gives good fidelity and imperceptible latency.
There's more places that use DJ's than clubs and festivals bro. Weddings, bars, outdoor gatherings, house parties. Think places that have limited space with people walking all around your gear.
Loving the idea!! That way you can setup additional speakers further away to create a surround sound feel and use those devices instead of running long cables!
works damn near flawless , 2 Soundbok's 1 Denon Go and 1 Skaa transmitter , win win win , drill battery hack for the Go and gone with the wind till the next daeh !
Excellent video, breakdown, and demonstration of technologies I had no idea existed. I think the only thing you missed was the wireless microphone adapters. ;)
At the time of filming we didn't know about the microphones! But don't worry we are in touch with Skaa and will be covering more tech as it comes! Thanks for watching!
Years I’ve been waiting to have a battery powered plastic controller, that is WiFi enabled to stream MP3’s to my Bluetooth enabled Chinese speakers. With mere milliseconds of latency! OMG the convenience and opportunities abound...
If Denon is listening, I would really like to see them build in the transmitters to the controller. This is going to make a real nice setup for DJing in my backyard.
How about a receiver to pair the Akiko Pro SKAA and get the 18ms delayed audio all the way from any source to any device with aux/line-in? It should be a portable (usb-powerbank powered) device. Is the Rush Receiver For Headphones suitable for this use or will this transmitter&receiver pair have the bigger latency of the non-Pro receiver unit? I like to have the freedom to choose the equipment to use as the audio source as well as the sound output. So just the solution for wireless low-latency good quality stereo audio transmission is required. I think this could be it! :)
Yea they should put this technology in the controllers! This way it’s less time of setting up! Less wire fussing. Just hit the button and mix in time💪🏽
Good step in the right direction for sure, but IMO sub 10ms really needs to be the target latency, your button presses would feel just a touch out at 19ms .
Analogue vs Digital. Vinyl vs CD. Wired Audio vs Wireless Bluetooth. Wireless Bluetooth vs Skaa? And guess what's to come? Yea you've guessed it...5G vs 6G?. All sounds great! Sorry (or not), but i'm an old school DJ in their 50's who grew up around "connecting" things just like with people as I began to discover music and how it changed my live, and others lives too. I've always thought, technically speaking that an acoustic guitar played through a microphone don't have the sound dynamics of an electric one played through an electrical cord, or by some form of physical 'connection', I may be wrong, or maybe not. I'm certainly in no hurry to change the concept's of sound reproduction I learnt and grew with.. Seems as though technology is creating a kind of (social distancing) between electrical appliances or hardware as what's happening with us right now! The only "wireless" connection there should be when it comes to music reproduction is between the loudspeaker and the 🎧 ear! Nothing can beat the 'connection' with the needle in that groove! Now That's What I Call Music! In perfect harmony!
There's a place for everything. I agree, a wired connection is reliable and you get benefits from 'old-school' ways of doing things. But there's also space for progress. Vinyl wasn't perfect, and neither was tape, CDs and now MP3s. All of them have their pros and cons, but there is a place for them all, all depends on your needs and what you're trying to achieve. I've got a vinyl collection I like to relax to, but I also have my entire digitised music library available via the internet if I'm on the road so I can listen anywhere and anytime on anything.
My Prime Go is already truly wireless to the speakers using IMG STAGELINE FLY-16SET's ... They are RF transmitters and work with any speakers with XLR (or if you convert them from XLR) They have no noticeable latency.
Going wireless means a dependency on batteries. Gotta worry about recharging devices. Also, all batteries will eventually go bad and not be able to hold a charge... and many devices don’t allow you to change batteries. Not for me but cool tech
Not necessarily. If we're talking about wireless audio, there's no reason you can't plug your transmitters and receivers into power. If the transmitters and receivers are integrated into your mixer and your speakers, then they can draw from the mains of their respective units.
You guys make good points. Something I didn't consider, you can always have wireless as a built-in option that allows it if and when you need it. Then you can always plug things in when you need to or prefer to. Just like those big speakers.... you can run it off battery, but nothing is stopping you from plugging a cable into the wall for power. Flexibility for user preference
Gaming peripherals wireless is getting better every year and I hope dj hardware got some improvement such as implementing wireless feature in gaming peripherals, because in gaming every milliseconds count.
@@cosmovalentino1394 unless I walk in with a ghz jammer in my pocket then you are all stuffed it's a freq band of course I can jam it... I did electronic warfare in the army for a living I can jam any freq range I want..
@@saml323 I think I have played devils advocate enough here Sam. I don't have anything further to add but in this day and age NOTHING would surprise me trust me I'm 50 years old and have seen just about anything that will try to screw over peoples sets because of jealous nefarious individuals who have nothing but evil doing on their minds. It doesn't hurt to make people think about all possibilities in this day and age and that is really all I was doing with my examples I pulled up but wireless security has been my job for more than 30 years and sometimes it's hard not to run my brain out of my mouth no harm intended just wanted to make possible users think about the situation and all it's possibilities. Oh and pulling speaker cables generally is more difficult than you would think with all the security staff that Venues generally have at events nowadays as Electrics and punters don't mix well and usually if not guarded can often cause injury but that's my view, maybe I'm scaling up the issue too large and this particular set up is for smaller mobile related venue's..anyway no worries your all adults so can make up our own minds. Thanks for the feedback though stay safe and I hope you get to head out and play with the kit as soon as you can...keep it banging though :)
I’ve always wondered when the technology of being able to use a Bluetooth headset or headphones to a mixer. If a mixer has Bluetooth capabilities to do so, that would be awesome! Never have to worry about wires being in the way. Love the video! This is great! Thanks for the info always!
I think that the Xvive U3 is a better option and a cleaner setup than the Skaa Pro.. 1) XLR balanced wireless signal vs unbalanced audio signal of the Skaa Pro. 2) Doesn't require a USB to power, since it has an internal battery. 3) Less than 5ms latency VS 19ms of the Skaa Pro.
Are you saying we can use this to work with the unit, so do I connect it to xlr output back of unit and get some xlr speakers for the receiver?, I am confused, can you guide me thanks
Darren Burgess Yes, you connect two U3 transmitters (left& right) to any mixer with XLR outputs. Set it to “line”. Then connect the U3 receivers to as many speakers that you want, they need XLR inputs. The range is about 90ft. This guy shows how it works: ua-cam.com/video/5o_3H-wqCAY/v-deo.html
@@winstonsmith9424 If your XLR outputs are too close, you can use an XLR extender (Neutrik 3-Pole XLR Female to 3-Pole XLR Male Extension Adapter) on one of your Xvive U3s. I would also try to keep a clear line-of-sight between the transmitter & the receiver. That includes also human bodies, which can create interference. The best option to avoid interference, is to elevate the Xvive U3 transmitter over 7 feet by using XLR cables & placing it on a speaker stand or mic stand, for example. I would recommend extensively testing the system before using it in an event, and that applies to any wireless system. Good luck!
Probably to keep the price tag under a grand. It's not really something designed to do large scale gigs, and it would be tough to justify something so expensive that wouldn't be practical for big events. On the one hand sure it would be good to have it, but on the other hand how often would one do a gig that is e.g. in a middle of nowhere with no cable runs of any kind allowed?
We use bluetooth tech, for example the Turbosound bluetooth wireless dongles are live with no latency in real time. We use them for bigger events when we want more sound. Most BT does have this issue but not all. In saying that they are not perfect but you do get left and right stereo etc.
thx for sharing! can you test it again with overlapping wlan frequencies? how about a microwave oven in 3-10m distance that warms up soup? ;) how is the transmission error tolerance?
bluetooth has to make more money then the bluetooth ppl/ manufactures will give the public the tech that reduces latency. this is a good product, yet like he said the set looks "sloppy". ( though in my opinion, it not that bad of a set up...being he got it to work and its only a view wires). This tech looks good ... so just know it appears Beta-is, but cool to know, that, soon the real thing is not far away for the public. so many things still use bluetooth tech and im sure more's to come. putting it in a device is ideal. the separate unit " U S B" Skaa device isn't to bad. it functioned.. good for small gigs. thanks Crossfade. love the Crossfade logo
would there be a noticable difference between two speaker pairs if i have one wired and one connected with this system? thinking about having my speakers in the living room connected to my dj setup in the studio
It sounds good, but ay the end, the cable system keeps so cheaper compared to this skaa solution (and the others suggested in some commentaries) which needs both a transmetter and a receiver. Does the benefits of using a wireless system really compense the cost and the latency of this choice ? In my opinion it doesn’t…
Good for small gigs if you're bringing not a huge speaker set up, portable as hell actually. I still think it's a bit of a gimmick, I'd never use wireless in a club.
19 millisecond is too much delay to Dj with unless you have a monitor and you are in a separate room from the Skaa speakers. Anything above 5 millisecond is unusable. But like you said as proof of concept cool. But for it to be functional no. And the further you are away from the transceiver you are the more latency you will have. Again as far as proof of concept 😎. But for practical use, we are not there yet
The latency doesn't change with distance. We know of a very famous finger drummer who tried this out at Namm and he was happy enough with the 19ms too. I think most people would be surprised with it in use.
Let's make this very simple. If it takes a signal 0.3 milliseconds to go 5 feet what makes you think that it will take the same time to go 30 feet. It takes a car 1 hour to 55 miles at 55 miles an hour. What makes you think that it will take the same car going at 55 miles an hour 1 hour to go 110 miles? This is common sense
@@Lordblanca It's called locked latency. Because this system can bond to two speakers, they have to play at the exact same time. This is a digital signal being sent over the air remember, not direct audio. One speaker can be centimeters from the receiver and the other 30meters away, they both play exactly 19ms after.
@@Crossfader locked latency is a CPU term pertaining to cycles. This has nothing to do with that. If you are going to give information please give it correctly. Laten deals with the time from source to destination. What you are emplying that if the transceiver is 5 inches from the speaker or 30 feet its going to take 19 millisecond for it to get to both speakers. Is this what you are saying?
It’s ok, but it’s not there yet , or is but it’s just not been covered. Standard mobile rig, could have the transmitter, but it would need to go to existing speakers not the ones in this video. So if you a get a receiver can that work with say HK Audio powered speakers Bass Bins and Tops. And as you tend to have two speakers in a room, could you get two receivers to save running a cable between the two.
Like Crossfader and others have stated, having the tech integrated would be best....but in the meantime, you can use 2 of these (one for each speaker) to your existing speakers www.skaastore.com/rush/
The spec I found on these is 18ms of latency. How can this be "pro"? AptX LL is also about 20 ms. It's ok if you're mixing, but NOT ok for tracking. Most people complain if their DAW latency in/out while recording is over 10 ms. Who in their right mind would accept adding that much latency just to free one wire? Never mind when you start stacking them up, or the fact that one might delay more than another - then you need to delay your front speakers from your rear speakers, to sync them, now you might be at 40 ms. So what about, ummm, power cables? Those don't exist anymore? What about the weight of the equipment? Might as well just do a cappella singing performances and cut ALL wires for real!
@@commonsense2959 so it should work with the transmitter in the video and the receiver you mentioned ? Want to get wireless because my friends and i often party on some locations in the woods 😉
@@tomdufour1134 yes! when you purchase the Akiko transmitter, there are 2 types- 1) Akiko can serve 4 speakers but latency is 36ms, 2) Akiko PRO serves 2 speakers and latency is 19ms....be sure to pick up the one that suits your need the best!
I'd love to hear that clipped bluetooth sound on a 5k system and then tell me that you can't tell....indeed bluetooth audi sounds crap on large power setups you can clearly hear the clips from the bits that they have removed in order to compress the audio into the wave form and send it on it's way. can't tell some folk this though you have to hear it with your own ears to confirm I guess.
nice proof of concept! However next to thinking the latency is still too much, what about wireless interference? i don't know at what frequencies this runs, but probably some general frequencies, which means other devices can interfere. Maybe even resulting into distortion or even signal loss? (my jabra bluetooth headset has this when there are to much bluetooth devices active) Btw; at 11:15 you can hear a difference in delay between the headset and the speaker; there is no way you can beatmatch correctly that way.
Ive seen uhf transmitters from the 70s that only had like 10 miliseconds of latency will work just fine on modern equipment modernstuff makes the mistake of trying to send digital signals with using handshakes in the packets
Most people running a DJ controller have their USB latency set to higher than 5ms without even realising it. It's not unusable, most people would be absolutely fine mixing with this set up :)
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once i sale one of my didges i will get some lessons!
not sure if you guys gives a shit but if you guys are stoned like me atm then you can stream pretty much all of the latest movies and series on InstaFlixxer. Have been watching with my gf for the last couple of weeks xD
@Brodie Holden definitely, been using Instaflixxer for since november myself :)
This is actually interesting and promising new tech that I haven't seen on other DJ channels before, well done. Hopefully videos like this will give it the momentum for manufacturers to consider building it into their equipment.
Yes!
I remember back in the day when you had to rush your dat tape down to the dub-plate factory to get your jam cut for your dj set later that night. Crazy to be alive to see the evolution of this culture.
I bought the Prime Go last month and have been hoping a product like this would be released! The less wires the better!
Wireless mics and in ear monitors have been used in pro audio for ages, you see systems used on stage for singers and guitarists. Shure wireless have latency down to 3ms or so.
And that's where it needs to be.
the people to Pioneer : This would be great to integrate into a new standalone controller
Pioneer : Introducing the DDJ1200... it has more buttons!!
the people to Pioneer : But you could have...
Pioneer : BUTTONS!!
Reloop needs to jump into this, so they finally get the credit they deserve for their cheaper mixers, that still hold quality.
InMusic owns Denon and that’s where the actions gonna be. Their players already blow pioneer out of the water.
@Chris McKeel -- THAT was one of the funniest comments of the day!! BUTTONS!
Pioneer now only worries about colors.
Right now this is my dream setup. No cables and I hear these particular speakers are the bomb!
technology has been improving at a rapid rate! this is dope!
Definitely game changing. I would like to see DJ controller makers (Denon, Pioneer, Numark, etc.) embrace Skaa.
it’s amazing to see how far we’ve come from the days of carrying crates of vinyl
and books of CDs. Now, we have Online Streaming Service, battery built-in and "wireless" technology. Did we ever think about all that future things?
Time to say goodbye to "10 years old overprice technology".
This is brilliant!!!! As others have said, this needs to be integrated into controllers asap! Thanks for the heads up on these. Cheers
Brilliant tech! Can't wait to see this integrated directly into all standalone controllers!
You and me both! Thanks for watching! :)
That would be awesome!
What's wrong with cables again? Technology is fine I guess but what does that look like in real-life? Are clubs/festivals asking for wireless audio? Why would I want to have my mixer/turntables to be wireless? I'm not walking around, I'm mixing.
Sounds like they're trying to reinvent the wheel there. Creating solutions for problems that don't exists.
It's an approved upgrade. Cables shall not be replaced, at least not totally.
Think out of the box, many applications other than club/festival which I would rather been wired for as well!
Cables are great for clubs and venues with the foresight and resources to install a sound system. Us poor fools doing mobile gigs have to run our own cables, and when those cables have to cross foot paths, we run into problems.
I've been using RF mic or IEM kits to extend audio wirelessly to speakers for a while now. I'm curious about how this device compares to those, because a good IEM kit gives good fidelity and imperceptible latency.
There's more places that use DJ's than clubs and festivals bro. Weddings, bars, outdoor gatherings, house parties. Think places that have limited space with people walking all around your gear.
The less wires the less probability of someone tripping on on the cable and it looks cleaner.
Loving the idea!! That way you can setup additional speakers further away to create a surround sound feel and use those devices instead of running long cables!
works damn near flawless , 2 Soundbok's 1 Denon Go and 1 Skaa transmitter , win win win , drill battery hack for the Go and gone with the wind till the next daeh !
I'm excited to see how more of this tech is gonna be used in the industry
This is pretty exciting. Living in the future!
Theyve just changed the game forever.
Aioki Doki 🍭
Using cables to avoid using other cables. Genius!
Still has wires . Just now they are short and go to tiny boxes. But great proof of concept for putting this tech into the mixer
That's some nice stuff. So many wires in my studio!
InMusic making moves. I’m ready for the future.
Excellent video, breakdown, and demonstration of technologies I had no idea existed. I think the only thing you missed was the wireless microphone adapters. ;)
At the time of filming we didn't know about the microphones! But don't worry we are in touch with Skaa and will be covering more tech as it comes! Thanks for watching!
Years I’ve been waiting to have a battery powered plastic controller, that is WiFi enabled to stream MP3’s to my Bluetooth enabled Chinese speakers. With mere milliseconds of latency! OMG the convenience and opportunities abound...
If Denon is listening, I would really like to see them build in the transmitters to the controller. This is going to make a real nice setup for DJing in my backyard.
This is absolutely brilliant technology!
How about a receiver to pair the Akiko Pro SKAA and get the 18ms delayed audio all the way from any source to any device with aux/line-in?
It should be a portable (usb-powerbank powered) device. Is the Rush Receiver For Headphones suitable for this use or will this transmitter&receiver pair have the bigger latency of the non-Pro receiver unit?
I like to have the freedom to choose the equipment to use as the audio source as well as the sound output. So just the solution for wireless low-latency good quality stereo audio transmission is required. I think this could be it! :)
Yea they should put this technology in the controllers! This way it’s less time of setting up! Less wire fussing. Just hit the button and mix in time💪🏽
That’s killer technology... considering.
Killer as in a good way to easily kill the system kinda way sure 😉✌️👀🤔 not mine though.
Good step in the right direction for sure, but IMO sub 10ms really needs to be the target latency, your button presses would feel just a touch out at 19ms .
Fe real 😎
Exactly. How will this sound in a club?
19ms is absolutely indiscernible by the human ear and if blindfolded, you will think it is a wired connection. Don't take my word for it - try it.
Great for ceremony setups
The issue is the buffering - it would be easy to drop the latency to close to 0 but then it becomes very susceptible to interference etc.
Analogue vs Digital. Vinyl vs CD. Wired Audio vs Wireless Bluetooth. Wireless Bluetooth vs Skaa? And guess what's to come? Yea you've guessed it...5G vs 6G?. All sounds great! Sorry (or not), but i'm an old school DJ in their 50's who grew up around "connecting" things just like with people as I began to discover music and how it changed my live, and others lives too. I've always thought, technically speaking that an acoustic guitar played through a microphone don't have the sound dynamics of an electric one played through an electrical cord, or by some form of physical 'connection', I may be wrong, or maybe not. I'm certainly in no hurry to change the concept's of sound reproduction I learnt and grew with.. Seems as though technology is creating a kind of (social distancing) between electrical appliances or hardware as what's happening with us right now! The only "wireless" connection there should be when it comes to music reproduction is between the loudspeaker and the 🎧 ear! Nothing can beat the 'connection' with the needle in that groove! Now That's What I Call Music! In perfect harmony!
There's a place for everything. I agree, a wired connection is reliable and you get benefits from 'old-school' ways of doing things. But there's also space for progress. Vinyl wasn't perfect, and neither was tape, CDs and now MP3s. All of them have their pros and cons, but there is a place for them all, all depends on your needs and what you're trying to achieve. I've got a vinyl collection I like to relax to, but I also have my entire digitised music library available via the internet if I'm on the road so I can listen anywhere and anytime on anything.
That's nice technology.
The Next level Dj.m.smooth
The cable to the headphones is part of the look to look as if you're doing something.
My Prime Go is already truly wireless to the speakers using IMG STAGELINE FLY-16SET's ... They are RF transmitters and work with any speakers with XLR (or if you convert them from XLR) They have no noticeable latency.
Can you explain a little more please mate
@@Mellowdz www.img-stageline.com/products/audio-tools/signal-processing/fly-16set/
@@Mellowdz just google for IMG STAGELINE FLY-16SET ... They are on Amazon or Gear4Music
They are analogue rather than digital so don't suffer from the crazy lag that digital transmitters have.
@@paulcarter3246 Thanks dude, what speakers do you you use
Hey nice video. What USB ports are you using @9:53?
THIS would be great for outdoor events ,less wires simple setup
Going wireless means a dependency on batteries. Gotta worry about recharging devices. Also, all batteries will eventually go bad and not be able to hold a charge... and many devices don’t allow you to change batteries. Not for me but cool tech
That’s why lithium batteries are a thing
It takes a long time for lithium batteries to go bad. Literally hundreds, if not thousands of charge cycles.
Not necessarily. If we're talking about wireless audio, there's no reason you can't plug your transmitters and receivers into power. If the transmitters and receivers are integrated into your mixer and your speakers, then they can draw from the mains of their respective units.
Earnest Mazique less set up time. Plug and play! Fast, easy, responsive and quality
You guys make good points. Something I didn't consider, you can always have wireless as a built-in option that allows it if and when you need it. Then you can always plug things in when you need to or prefer to. Just like those big speakers.... you can run it off battery, but nothing is stopping you from plugging a cable into the wall for power. Flexibility for user preference
Nice Video!
Thanks!
Denon Prime GO 2 a Skaa Pro device out the box? That would definitely make it worth price.
i got back to busk in Tijuana, im mixing with a cell phone, cross dj app, cus my pc got broquen, but im saving to get a denon prime go!
Gaming peripherals wireless is getting better every year and I hope dj hardware got some improvement such as implementing wireless feature in gaming peripherals, because in gaming every milliseconds count.
Denon unit looks great on that Crane stand ✅
That Setup is the absolute best mobile setup
I want to see how well it performs in a room filled with 200 or more people with their smartphones.
ctly what i thought ....INTERFERENCE or even better Jamming your worst DJ off the decks, wireless for me and audio I am afraid just don't go together!
it can never be hacked with a room full of 200 people, unlike Bluetooth. With Skaa you are locked and loaded with perfect audio all the time!
@@cosmovalentino1394 unless I walk in with a ghz jammer in my pocket then you are all stuffed it's a freq band of course I can jam it... I did electronic warfare in the army for a living I can jam any freq range I want..
@@sealandersoundscapes6403 You could also just unplug the speakers at the back, but why would you want to do that..?
@@saml323 I think I have played devils advocate enough here Sam. I don't have anything further to add but in this day and age NOTHING would surprise me trust me I'm 50 years old and have seen just about anything that will try to screw over peoples sets because of jealous nefarious individuals who have nothing but evil doing on their minds. It doesn't hurt to make people think about all possibilities in this day and age and that is really all I was doing with my examples I pulled up but wireless security has been my job for more than 30 years and sometimes it's hard not to run my brain out of my mouth no harm intended just wanted to make possible users think about the situation and all it's possibilities. Oh and pulling speaker cables generally is more difficult than you would think with all the security staff that Venues generally have at events nowadays as Electrics and punters don't mix well and usually if not guarded can often cause injury but that's my view, maybe I'm scaling up the issue too large and this particular set up is for smaller mobile related venue's..anyway no worries your all adults so can make up our own minds. Thanks for the feedback though stay safe and I hope you get to head out and play with the kit as soon as you can...keep it banging though :)
That is so rad
The SKAA transmitters used, are they the Akiko Pro transmitters??
should have done some kinda discount code with the product. i just purchased it cause of this vid. you guys should have got a kick back
Great video! Where can we purchase these transmitters? Please forward link.
Eric DT Skaastore.com
Nice, now I can mix while doing the morning jog! 😂
Bravo
Good explanation
Thank you!
What brand is the USB port you used DJ Holland? That’s such a great idea for the Prime Go 2!
I’ve always wondered when the technology of being able to use a Bluetooth headset or headphones to a mixer. If a mixer has Bluetooth capabilities to do so, that would be awesome! Never have to worry about wires being in the way. Love the video! This is great! Thanks for the info always!
I think that the Xvive U3 is a better option and a cleaner setup than the Skaa Pro..
1) XLR balanced wireless signal vs unbalanced audio signal of the Skaa Pro.
2) Doesn't require a USB to power, since it has an internal battery.
3) Less than 5ms latency VS 19ms of the Skaa Pro.
Are you saying we can use this to work with the unit, so do I connect it to xlr output back of unit and get some xlr speakers for the receiver?, I am confused, can you guide me thanks
Darren Burgess Yes, you connect two U3 transmitters (left& right) to any mixer with XLR outputs. Set it to “line”. Then connect the U3 receivers to as many speakers that you want, they need XLR inputs. The range is about 90ft. This guy shows how it works: ua-cam.com/video/5o_3H-wqCAY/v-deo.html
@@winstonsmith9424 If your XLR outputs are too close, you can use an XLR extender (Neutrik 3-Pole XLR Female to 3-Pole XLR Male Extension Adapter) on one of your Xvive U3s. I would also try to keep a clear line-of-sight between the transmitter & the receiver. That includes also human bodies, which can create interference. The best option to avoid interference, is to elevate the Xvive U3 transmitter over 7 feet by using XLR cables & placing it on a speaker stand or mic stand, for example. I would recommend extensively testing the system before using it in an event, and that applies to any wireless system. Good luck!
Stupid question. Since Denon GO is designed to be portable pro gear, why it does not have pro Scar interface build in by default?
Probably to keep the price tag under a grand. It's not really something designed to do large scale gigs, and it would be tough to justify something so expensive that wouldn't be practical for big events. On the one hand sure it would be good to have it, but on the other hand how often would one do a gig that is e.g. in a middle of nowhere with no cable runs of any kind allowed?
We use bluetooth tech, for example the Turbosound bluetooth wireless dongles are live with no latency in real time. We use them for bigger events when we want more sound. Most BT does have this issue but not all. In saying that they are not perfect but you do get left and right stereo etc.
Great.
thx for sharing! can you test it again with overlapping wlan frequencies? how about a microwave oven in 3-10m distance that warms up soup? ;) how is the transmission error tolerance?
Very good topic
is that thing works to for a usual bluetooth headphone or is it any special headphone required...?
This device can be connected to any bluetooth headphones or it is only for the headphones of the same line
My question is how this skaa pro wireless system would compare to a NUX B3 or Xvive U3 Wireless XLR system?
Latency sound quality etc?
bluetooth has to make more money then the bluetooth ppl/ manufactures will give the public the tech that reduces latency.
this is a good product, yet like he said the set looks "sloppy". ( though in my opinion, it not that bad of a set up...being he got it to work and its only a view wires). This tech looks good ... so just know it appears Beta-is, but cool to know, that, soon the real thing is not far away for the public. so many things still use bluetooth tech and im sure more's to come. putting it in a device is ideal. the separate unit " U S B" Skaa device isn't to bad. it functioned.. good for small gigs.
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would there be a noticable difference between two speaker pairs if i have one wired and one connected with this system?
thinking about having my speakers in the living room connected to my dj setup in the studio
Yes, there will be at least a 19 ms difference between a wired, and wireless.
It sounds good, but ay the end, the cable system keeps so cheaper compared to this skaa solution (and the others suggested in some commentaries) which needs both a transmetter and a receiver. Does the benefits of using a wireless system really compense the cost and the latency of this choice ? In my opinion it doesn’t…
Where do you purchase this!
Wireless DJ Skaastore.com :)
Where can I buy that adapter that you use to connect? Thanks
SKAAstore.com ... buy Akiko Pro
www.skaastore.com
where did you that usb hub you got clamp to the back of the prime go?
What type of usb are using in the back of the prime go to connect the skaa?
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thanks for the info can I use any wireless headphones?
Must be SKAA enabled headphones- hopefully more available in the market soon!
you can use Dillinger Labs Helix (SKAA headphones) or upgrade your existing wired headphones to SKAA using the RUSH receiver from SKAAstore.com
I thought you would show bad or good the latency is with headphones to speaker and controller to speaker?
Good for small gigs if you're bringing not a huge speaker set up, portable as hell actually. I still think it's a bit of a gimmick, I'd never use wireless in a club.
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19 millisecond is too much delay to Dj with unless you have a monitor and you are in a separate room from the Skaa speakers. Anything above 5 millisecond is unusable. But like you said as proof of concept cool. But for it to be functional no. And the further you are away from the transceiver you are the more latency you will have. Again as far as proof of concept 😎. But for practical use, we are not there yet
Yeah, can't agree with this statement at all. And no, the latency does NOT increase with distance. That's a silly comment.
The latency doesn't change with distance. We know of a very famous finger drummer who tried this out at Namm and he was happy enough with the 19ms too. I think most people would be surprised with it in use.
Let's make this very simple. If it takes a signal 0.3 milliseconds to go 5 feet what makes you think that it will take the same time to go 30 feet. It takes a car 1 hour to 55 miles at 55 miles an hour. What makes you think that it will take the same car going at 55 miles an hour 1 hour to go 110 miles? This is common sense
@@Lordblanca It's called locked latency. Because this system can bond to two speakers, they have to play at the exact same time. This is a digital signal being sent over the air remember, not direct audio. One speaker can be centimeters from the receiver and the other 30meters away, they both play exactly 19ms after.
@@Crossfader locked latency is a CPU term pertaining to cycles. This has nothing to do with that. If you are going to give information please give it correctly. Laten deals with the time from source to destination. What you are emplying that if the transceiver is 5 inches from the speaker or 30 feet its going to take 19 millisecond for it to get to both speakers. Is this what you are saying?
It’s ok, but it’s not there yet , or is but it’s just not been covered. Standard mobile rig, could have the transmitter, but it would need to go to existing speakers not the ones in this video. So if you a get a receiver can that work with say HK Audio powered speakers Bass Bins and Tops. And as you tend to have two speakers in a room, could you get two receivers to save running a cable between the two.
Like Crossfader and others have stated, having the tech integrated would be best....but in the meantime, you can use 2 of these (one for each speaker) to your existing speakers www.skaastore.com/rush/
Is this line of sight? Whats the range?
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I wish they had a stand like that for the Prime 2. But i know it's not going to fit being it's bigger.
It's a crane laptop stand, fits the Prime GO perfectly though!
The spec I found on these is 18ms of latency. How can this be "pro"? AptX LL is also about 20 ms. It's ok if you're mixing, but NOT ok for tracking. Most people complain if their DAW latency in/out while recording is over 10 ms. Who in their right mind would accept adding that much latency just to free one wire? Never mind when you start stacking them up, or the fact that one might delay more than another - then you need to delay your front speakers from your rear speakers, to sync them, now you might be at 40 ms. So what about, ummm, power cables? Those don't exist anymore? What about the weight of the equipment? Might as well just do a cappella singing performances and cut ALL wires for real!
Can a soundbox 2 speaker automatically connect with the skaa pro transmitter?
SB2 does not have SKAA built-in.....however, it does have an Aux in that allows you to use this receiver device www.skaastore.com/rush/
@@commonsense2959 so it should work with the transmitter in the video and the receiver you mentioned ? Want to get wireless because my friends and i often party on some locations in the woods 😉
@@tomdufour1134 yes! when you purchase the Akiko transmitter, there are 2 types- 1) Akiko can serve 4 speakers but latency is 36ms, 2) Akiko PRO serves 2 speakers and latency is 19ms....be sure to pick up the one that suits your need the best!
Bluetooth audio and wireless audio, it degrades the audio quality right?
I'd love to hear that clipped bluetooth sound on a 5k system and then tell me that you can't tell....indeed bluetooth audi sounds crap on large power setups you can clearly hear the clips from the bits that they have removed in order to compress the audio into the wave form and send it on it's way. can't tell some folk this though you have to hear it with your own ears to confirm I guess.
Totally agree
High tech
nice proof of concept!
However next to thinking the latency is still too much, what about wireless interference? i don't know at what frequencies this runs, but probably some general frequencies, which means other devices can interfere. Maybe even resulting into distortion or even signal loss? (my jabra bluetooth headset has this when there are to much bluetooth devices active)
Btw; at 11:15 you can hear a difference in delay between the headset and the speaker; there is no way you can beatmatch correctly that way.
That was the headphone playing a different track purposely out of time to show that it's not playing the same as the speaker :)
@@Crossfader i see! i stand corrected :)
Ive seen uhf transmitters from the 70s that only had like 10 miliseconds of latency will work just fine on modern equipment modernstuff makes the mistake of trying to send digital signals with using handshakes in the packets
Yooo this looks fucking stressful lol Just get the RX2
What stand is that for the prime go?
It's a Crane Laptop Stand
19 ms is still a lot?
I think my headphones weight more than that Dennon controller!
denon is doing the right thing
and soon pioneer will be replaced by denon
@@slurpii4142 I'm waiting to see that :)
All above 5ms button to speaker is unusable ...
Most people running a DJ controller have their USB latency set to higher than 5ms without even realising it. It's not unusable, most people would be absolutely fine mixing with this set up :)