Everyone does a speed to boil test, not many do a how much fuel is used test or noise test. For me economy of gas is more important and how noisy. Thanks for the video.
@@MrTrashyGecko agreed. My msr boils 2 cups in about 2.5 to 3 minutes... I love my msr but there are probably better ones...I'm kinsa loyal though...I've had it 20 yrs..and its fed me and kept me warm without fail...so I stick with it.
Very cool video. I’ve had the same msr pocket rocket for like 15 years now and I swear by it. Never had one issue with it. Paired with a piece of tin foil for a wind block it’s the perfect stove.
I have a 20+ year old Peak one that is more similar to the MSR pocket rocket, than to the new Peak One. After sitting for probably 15 years, I've started using it some, mostly for coffee and cocoa. She still loves works well! Solid little bit of kit.
I have a svea 123 i bought in 1976. Noisy and a bit slow, but so bombproof! I've been drinking not tea, whil others fiddle with canister stoves. I carry an esbit as a backup.
I have a MSR Pocket Rocket V1 that I've been using for about 15 years, never a problem. The only thing, like you said Dave, is temperature. When the mercury drops below 50° f., I switch to my white gas stove (MSR Whisperlite International).
Whisperlite International. The best true bullet proof liquid fuel stove for the money. If you ever need to field maintain it, just whip out the little tool or a leatherman, rip it apart and then put it back together.
Been rocking the same trangia stove for 40 years, it's slow and it weighs a little more but I can buy the fuels everywhere and it has no moving parts to fail, also it makes almost no noise. It's been to the top of Ben Nevis and Snowdonia, motorcycled across europe and camped all over the UK, sailed the Norfolk Broads, crossed the channel and kept me fed for three days when the lights went out due to a power failure. I have some regrets in life but buying my trangia is not one of them.
Tnx for sharing, already have one of these types of stoves, it's in my camping kit. Main thing i like about a pocket stove is that (for camping) it takes up little space and campground carry cannisters of fuel in the small campstore 99.9% of the time. So that means one saves up on space and weight carrying fuel of your own. And even if you go tracking and get to the smaller camp fields, and you have to take the fuel with you, you can at least disassemble the thing which makes it less of a hassle to pack.
Good to see others doing this comparison with various stoves. Even better doing it in colder temps. getting a boil at that temp in under 8-10 minutes is an achievment for those canister stoves.
I have the Coleman stove and honestly like it. I used it after hurricane michael to cook and make coffee for me and my wife. It does, for the price work great. But also I believe it was designed for a wider pot like the Stanley camping pot set which is one I have along with the pathfinder. The one key reason, besides price, that I bought this one was the baffle like pot holders actually block a bit of wind and I believe it does use less fuel. Haven't done a comparison though.
Thanks for the video Mr . Canterbury, nice looking stoves . I have a brs 3000t, works really good for me, but like you said when it gets cold , they are a booger to get to work. Set around in the blind while deer hunting with the tank of fuel inside my Jacket to heat it up. Merry Christmas Mr. Canterbury.
I've been using the Coleman peak stove for a while now. I've used it on almost every field op. Love the thing. I've been able to fire it up in the pouring rain in NC/Virginia, to the negative temperatures in the mountains of South Korea and camp Fuji japan. Im an 0311 in the Marines. I'm surprised that I haven't broken it yet by having it stuffed tight in my pack. Real durable. I like it because it's much smaller than the jet boil that everyone else uses. So I have more room in my pack. I think it's pretty conservative on fuel too. The only down side is that I have to bring a cylindrical cup with me because the canteen cups can tip over more easily on the stove and don't sit as evenly. But there's nothing like a hot cup of coffee or beverage powder when you're cold, wet, and miserable.
I’ve had my MSR pocket rocket for about 15 years. I paid about $40 too. It has always served me well. I even used it on one camping trip, to get my wood stove going in my Kifaru tipi, in single digit temperatures.
I bought that Peak 1 stove around 10 years ago and I used it on one backpacking trip then put it away and haven't used it since. I know it's a good stove, maybe I should dig it out again. Put it back in the rotation.
I hade all 3 as well. I choose to use the Coleman for several different reasons, one is that the Coleman is a more beefier and sturdy product and can handle the abuse. Another reason is the cost difference, the Coleman is much cheaper. Boil time is not even a factor for me. Thanks for sharing Dave, great review brother... Keith The Alabama Bushcrafter
Awesome. Just bought the primus omnilite ti with the silencer. It’s super light and really quiet and it’s crazy fast burn times and it’s white gas, kerosene or butane. It does a bunch of fuels.
Roland Silva how’s that silencer work? I was lead to believe that it could very easily go into underburn with the oem silencer setup. Personally I like the Bluewater Stove Restoration ‘berniedawg ‘ caps.
That little coleman stove works pretty good. I have been using it for a couple years with no issues. Also took the opportunity to use it at 3,000, 5,000, and 6,800ft elevations with no issues. Sometimes those stoves act funny at High elevation.
Dave I'm not a hardened Woodsman like you are. Waiting one extra minute for my morning coffee would be torture! LOL merry Christmas thanks for all the good years of instructions!
I have the MSR Reactor stove and man that thing is amazing, super efficient on the fuel too. Great review Dave always a good day when I get the notification of a new video, learn something new with everyone
For canister stoves I use the updated MSR Pocket Rocket 2. Great stove at 2.6 oz it's light. $45 If it's going to be real cold I use a Kovea Spider. It's a remote canister stove that allows you to use a wind screen for better efficiency. In cold temperatures you have the ability to invert the can and run liquid. It has an anti flare preheat tube that gives it the ability to run down to 0°f. It weighs a little more at 6 oz and cost few dollars more. Both stoves have great summer control. Now if someone wanted to go super light you could get the BRS-3000T. Weighs less than an ounce and cost about 16 bucks.
My thing has always been to get them to simmer and they will if the wind is not blowing or you have them shielded but some will do it a little better than others but they all will boil pretty quick. The svea123 always was amazing but the weight with the pocket stoves. It's a trade of constantly. 👍👍always good insight on your channel Dave
I started with a homemade alcohol soda can stove(s) and then bought a brass alcohol stove with a screw on lid and a simmer function. I forget the name or brand but many will know which I speak of. I believe it was originally a Swiss Army stove. I then from watching you tube hiking / backpacking videos seen when you could buy something close to the present day pocket rockets with a piezo click lighter, a plastic storage box for right around $7.00 shipped. yeah I know it’s a knock off right out of China but wanted to try this type of stove without spending $40.00. This is the stove I use and it works well. I know you can save weight with the alcohol stoves, but I like the adjustability of the gas stoves burner.
Love my Primus Classic! It’s a little heavier and bulkier, but like you say, very even heat and the pot supports make for pretty decent wind protection.
Big dividing point: two of these are gas stoves. These days, we might want to consider twig stoves and stoves that use a secondary burn of combustion gases. If still carried primer paste, I would seriously consider putting this kit and a primer tube of (Whatever) in my colder weather fire kit.
One thing I like about the colman is it looks like it has a little better support for different size cups and water bottles. The one thing I dont like about the pocket rocket is it's easy to knock a bottle of it.
these Test is exactly my taste. I like the measurement, and counting and express something with numbers. And on top the important facts that makes the different. like it
I have al 3 stoves. The "Pocket Rocket' I bought several years ago at $35. Paid the same for the 'GigaPower'. The Coleman stove I have is a little different than yours, an older model, but still relatively the same. I paid $20 for it. The one thing I found from my experience is that all 3 stoves will give you better performance using a larger diameter cooking vessel than you were using. Most of my early testing was using a Snow Peak Trek 700. I also tested them with the Stanley Camp Cook Set. While I got decent boil times, I noticed that allot of flame wasn't directly hitting the bottom of the cooking vessels. So I started using larger diameter pots. Boil times decreased allot then. With more flame being directed at the bottom of the pot and not being lost at the side it heated a much larger area of the pot bottom and the heat transfer to the water increased. However, the Pocket Rocket set up was the most unstable. Very little contact between the stove and cooking vessel. You had to be careful when using or you could lose the pot off the top of the stove. MSR has made improvements with it's newer versions of the stove. It consistently delivered the best boil times. The GigaPower stove offered a little more stability, but slightly slower boil times. This became my 'go to' stove for warm weather camping/hiking. The Coleman was the most stable but had the slowest boil times. However, I found that you had a little more flame control with it. I was easily able to turn down the flame easy and get into a semi simmer mode. However this stoves awkward shape and not having it's own storage unit kept it from being anywhere close to my go to unit. In any event you'll not go wrong with any of these 3 stoves. For colder weather I use a Svea 123 white gas stove.
You should also note that the Coleman stove was the last of three on the same canister of fuel. Wouldn't make much difference in thepressure/temperature but some. Like your videos.
Agree with Moreno. Quieter burn may mean less fuel flow. Need to weigh canisters to determine actual fuel usage. Interesting video. The extra minute waiting on boil is not significant. And even if the Coleman burns a bit more fuel it would take a good while to burn up the cost difference between the stoves and money spent on fuel. Thanks.
Merry Christmas Dave. I appreciate and respect all of your knowledge and opinions my friend. I have the GSI Glacier camp stove which I purchased at Academy for $19.99. It's still new but if I ever need a replacement I will definitely consider the Coleman. Thank you. Great review. Tennessee
The Peak One Stove is a good little stove for the price point I have one in my vehicle bag. Great for coffee and a Mountain House Pepper Steak meal for lunch or heating up soups or canned pasta and tomato entrees aka Spaghetti O's
I like the peak 1 and others that have the larger burner head. I think for larger pots/pans the larger burner helps distribute the heat more evenly. Not a big fan of the canned fuel stoves either, but good to have for a quick hot drink or lunch..
The way to go is Firebox. Over forty years I have tried many stoves but firebox folds flat, can simmer, boils fast, can grill, uses fuel (wood) readily available in Europe and USA, fuel is free,is durable and lights at extremely low temperatures. The downsides are the Firebox coats your pans in soot and is quite heavy ( 2 Lbs) but I will use Firebox above all other stoves.
I guess I don't get the hole wood box stove thing, If I am gonna go through starting a wood fire I can cook in hole, and not carry anything but a lighter eh'
@@DavidCanterbury Fair comment Dave, but to enlarge on my comment I live in Wales and many places I camp do not allow open fires but wood stoves are permissible. The other advantage of a Firebox is that it is designed to work with a Trangia spirit stove, providing it with a pot support and wind break. I too would be happy to cook over a fire, mostly can't do it because I don't live in a fine country like the USA and have to obey lots of rules. The stoves you tested in this video are all good and I have used similar. I still stick with my original comment because wood stoves boil faster, fuel is free, lights in all conditions and fuel is easy to gather in my environment. Thank you for your videos, I have learnt many things and learning from each other and taking pleasure in camping in comfort is what it is all about.
i have a 4 bucks gas stove from china, very similar to that 1st you tried, boiling time on a maximum for 250ml( iam from europe,hard to tell ounces in a second.) is 4.10sec. i tried inside, so there was no wind nor cold. 22c degree. it makes a lot of difference, so. but i have it like 5years now and it works perfectly.
I found this interesting, because I compared different fuels for camp stoves in cold weather just 3 weeks ago. I however tried to manage five stoves at the same time, that wasn’t easy :-) I like your videos, I’d be happy to attend one of your courses when you visit Sweden or Scandinavia the next time.
Good video. I got pocket stove I got at a yard sale made in ( I thank USSR ) black gold and silver it sounds like a 747 jet takeoff loud but it will boil 15oz of water in 3.5 minutes & it will burn a small bottle of propane in no time. I paid $2 for it . Thank you for the info.
Good video Dave. I think you could have weighed the fuel tank as well, before and after each use to see how much fuel was consumed in order to reach full boil. Fuel consumption is important to know when deciding which product to use. The third stove was more quiet than than the other 2 and is half the cost, but it does weigh more, it takes up more room, and it takes longer to boil which means it may also burn more fuel. I appreciate you taking the time to test these products for us and it seemed like a fair test to me. I think though, we need a fuel consumption test. Maybe you could do a part 2 to this video. Thanks and have a Merry Christmas bud.
Depends on how much your going to use the stove. If you're going to use it a lot get the 5 minute stove. If you're going to use it only 2 or 3 times, get the cheap stove
I would love to see a video comparing these stoves with a flow meter connected, and timed from/to a specific temperature, like maybe 48°F water to 212°F water at 70°F ambient temperature. That way we could see which stove uses less fuel to raise the temperature gradient a set amount. Honestly though, the Coleman stove is the one I would go for out of the three. It's quieter, most likely uses less fuel to achieve the same outcome, and is cheaper.
The MSR stove is on my list looks like a great stove I’m sure there’s something that’s good and cheaper but why not get something that’s a known and liked stove that’s my thought great video as usually 👍✌️
MSR pocket rocket...love mine. Had it 20 years...no problems. Boils fast and fuel lasts a good while. Jusr an observation. Using a wider pot traps more heat and boils faster....but I really dig that pathfinder kit. You sell gear? I must be slipping.. Have to check it out. Good vid Dave.
I picked up a Brunton Talon pocket stove back in 2009. Works like a charm. 10,000btu Paid around $20. Great stove. I think I recall you had a Brunton Flex stove. Did that stand the test of time?
The Coleman looks like it will be more efficient and there isnt as much blue flame escaping around the side of the cup. The quietness might be from not as much gas flow. So maybe the can will last longer with the Coleman?
Great comparison Dave. At the end of the day, like you say, the best strove to have out n the woods is the stove you have! LOL Merry Christmas to you and yours!
1.5 minutes isn't a lot, but over time the extra gas you use will add up to the 20 dollars you saved and then keep adding up more and more. Eventually, through the use of the extra gas, you'll lose far more than the 20 dollars you saved.
Without measuring gas, we can't know the amount it used just based on time. The longer run time was also quieter, which could also mean that it wasn't burning as much fuel per minute as the other two. We would really need to weigh the fuel canister to know.
You can reduce boiling time and increase efficiency by using a lid. Few minutes you save will make it up in the long run more than boiling for a minute longer.
Dave I am curious about your test. First I agree that a minute difference is nothing. I'm surprised there is any difference at all. I would think that using the same fuel in the tests that the temperature of the blue flame should be the same on all stoves. I'd love to see you be able to test the temperature of the flame from each stove. If they all test at the same temp then the time difference would have to be from other variables such as starting temp of the water or distance of the pot from the flame, oxygen mixture ect. I did notice the last stove had more yellow flames than the previous two. Great job pal. I think I'd choose the cheaper one. Thanks for sharing and Merry Christmas pal. God Bless.
Butane stoves come even smaller for around the same price. But butane doesn't work well, (or at all) at very low temps, whereas propane does, down to around 50 below (F). So I got a nifty, very little (and cheap) thread adapter that accepts propane cartridges on the bottom, and the butane stove on the top. Propane canisters are heavier, 'cause they're steel, (due to pressure concerns at normal room temps and especially above), but they're cheap as anything, and available everywhere. If, for whatever reason, you're camping above the treeline, or in very cold temps, or don't want to produce any smoke, well, my little set-up fits in a large pill bottle, weighs less in total than all the gear featured today here, costs around the same or so, and gives me serious options, especially if boiling hot water's needed in a hurry, when general or personal SHTF. lol
Yup cost be a function 20 or less then 15 I'd take it . If I used one of them I use Esbit if not camp fire ! Next would be alcohol . I but that's a good book time maybe for a fishing trip that would be great ! Thanks brother merry Xmas to you and iris and family
Everyone does a speed to boil test, not many do a how much fuel is used test or noise test.
For me economy of gas is more important and how noisy.
Thanks for the video.
I guess one could weight the tank at the beginning and after each test to somewhat quantify that
Agree with your take on it.
3 weeks ago I measured how many grams of fuel was consumed boiling 1 liter of cold water using different fuels. I made a video if you are interested.
Sneak over to The outdoor Gear review. side by side comparison over there aswell as fuel usage, just gotta find the vids.
@@MrTrashyGecko agreed. My msr boils 2 cups in about 2.5 to 3 minutes... I love my msr but there are probably better ones...I'm kinsa loyal though...I've had it 20 yrs..and its fed me and kept me warm without fail...so I stick with it.
Very cool video. I’ve had the same msr pocket rocket for like 15 years now and I swear by it. Never had one issue with it. Paired with a piece of tin foil for a wind block it’s the perfect stove.
I have a 20+ year old Peak one that is more similar to the MSR pocket rocket, than to the new Peak One. After sitting for probably 15 years, I've started using it some, mostly for coffee and cocoa. She still loves works well! Solid little bit of kit.
I have a svea 123 i bought in 1976. Noisy and a bit slow, but so bombproof! I've been drinking not tea, whil others fiddle with canister stoves. I carry an esbit as a backup.
Thanks Dave for sharing your knowledge and information on equipment. Thank you for your humility and honesty on your videos as well...much respect!
I have a MSR Pocket Rocket V1 that I've been using for about 15 years, never a problem. The only thing, like you said Dave, is temperature. When the mercury drops below 50° f., I switch to my white gas stove (MSR Whisperlite International).
Whisperlite International. The best true bullet proof liquid fuel stove for the money. If you ever need to field maintain it, just whip out the little tool or a leatherman, rip it apart and then put it back together.
Been rocking the same trangia stove for 40 years, it's slow and it weighs a little more but I can buy the fuels everywhere and it has no moving parts to fail, also it makes almost no noise. It's been to the top of Ben Nevis and Snowdonia, motorcycled across europe and camped all over the UK, sailed the Norfolk Broads, crossed the channel and kept me fed for three days when the lights went out due to a power failure.
I have some regrets in life but buying my trangia is not one of them.
I feel the same way about my Coleman 533, no shortage of unleaded gas in the near future-
Dave's channeling his inner Hiram Cook! Awesome!
I do miss Hiram Cook
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Tnx for sharing, already have one of these types of stoves, it's in my camping kit. Main thing i like about a pocket stove is that (for camping) it takes up little space and campground carry cannisters of fuel in the small campstore 99.9% of the time. So that means one saves up on space and weight carrying fuel of your own. And even if you go tracking and get to the smaller camp fields, and you have to take the fuel with you, you can at least disassemble the thing which makes it less of a hassle to pack.
Good to see others doing this comparison with various stoves. Even better doing it in colder temps. getting a boil at that temp in under 8-10 minutes is an achievment for those canister stoves.
I have the Coleman stove and honestly like it. I used it after hurricane michael to cook and make coffee for me and my wife. It does, for the price work great. But also I believe it was designed for a wider pot like the Stanley camping pot set which is one I have along with the pathfinder. The one key reason, besides price, that I bought this one was the baffle like pot holders actually block a bit of wind and I believe it does use less fuel. Haven't done a comparison though.
Thanks for the video Mr . Canterbury, nice looking stoves . I have a brs 3000t, works really good for me, but like you said when it gets cold , they are a booger to get to work.
Set around in the blind while deer hunting with the tank of fuel inside my Jacket to heat it up.
Merry Christmas
Mr. Canterbury.
finally...someone tested these stoves in an outdoor environment with outdoor temps!
I've been using the Coleman peak stove for a while now. I've used it on almost every field op. Love the thing. I've been able to fire it up in the pouring rain in NC/Virginia, to the negative temperatures in the mountains of South Korea and camp Fuji japan. Im an 0311 in the Marines. I'm surprised that I haven't broken it yet by having it stuffed tight in my pack. Real durable. I like it because it's much smaller than the jet boil that everyone else uses. So I have more room in my pack. I think it's pretty conservative on fuel too. The only down side is that I have to bring a cylindrical cup with me because the canteen cups can tip over more easily on the stove and don't sit as evenly. But there's nothing like a hot cup of coffee or beverage powder when you're cold, wet, and miserable.
I’ve had my MSR pocket rocket for about 15 years. I paid about $40 too. It has always served me well.
I even used it on one camping trip, to get my wood stove going in my Kifaru tipi, in single digit temperatures.
I bought that Peak 1 stove around 10 years ago and I used it on one backpacking trip then put it away and haven't used it since. I know it's a good stove, maybe I should dig it out again. Put it back in the rotation.
Someone's grand daughter needs a new pin code ;)
Thanks for the vid!
Thanks for the info Dave. Lid and a way to shield it from the wind if any would speed up boil time also. Love your videos.
I hade all 3 as well. I choose to use the Coleman for several different reasons, one is that the Coleman is a more beefier and sturdy product and can handle the abuse. Another reason is the cost difference, the Coleman is much cheaper. Boil time is not even a factor for me. Thanks for sharing Dave, great review brother...
Keith
The Alabama Bushcrafter
I have been using the Coleman for a few years and I like it a lot.
I have had a Coleman for a couple of years now. I like it.
Great video. For as much as I use one the price was right.
Thank you for this video, I recently looked at one of the stoves at Walmart and was unsure of it's performance but now I'll have one in my gear.
Yes Sir. Outstanding Video!
i saw a lot of wind involved too and that will effect results. The burner on the Coleman looked a lot more efficient.
Awesome. Just bought the primus omnilite ti with the silencer. It’s super light and really quiet and it’s crazy fast burn times and it’s white gas, kerosene or butane. It does a bunch of fuels.
Roland Silva how’s that silencer work? I was lead to believe that it could very easily go into underburn with the oem silencer setup. Personally I like the Bluewater Stove Restoration ‘berniedawg ‘ caps.
That little coleman stove works pretty good. I have been using it for a couple years with no issues. Also took the opportunity to use it at 3,000, 5,000, and 6,800ft elevations with no issues. Sometimes those stoves act funny at High elevation.
Nice video. Thanks. BTW MSR Reactor, larger, more expensive and requires special integrated pot, will boil water in about 3 minutes.
Got to get me one of those. I have been using a small alcohol burner to cook when I go camping with the kids.
Dave I'm not a hardened Woodsman like you are. Waiting one extra minute for my morning coffee would be torture! LOL merry Christmas thanks for all the good years of instructions!
I have a coleman pack stove and absolutely love it, its the same one your showing and altho its a bit bulky it does the job.
I have the MSR Reactor stove and man that thing is amazing, super efficient on the fuel too. Great review Dave always a good day when I get the notification of a new video, learn something new with everyone
Love the demonstrations.👍
I'm going to order one now for a secondary go-bag.
For canister stoves I use the updated MSR Pocket Rocket 2. Great stove at 2.6 oz it's light. $45 If it's going to be real cold I use a Kovea Spider. It's a remote canister stove that allows you to use a wind screen for better efficiency. In cold temperatures you have the ability to invert the can and run liquid. It has an anti flare preheat tube that gives it the ability to run down to 0°f. It weighs a little more at 6 oz and cost few dollars more. Both stoves have great summer control. Now if someone wanted to go super light you could get the BRS-3000T. Weighs less than an ounce and cost about 16 bucks.
Dual Surviver was never as good after you left... its been great watching these videos. Im always looking forward to the next one!
My thing has always been to get them to simmer and they will if the wind is not blowing or you have them shielded but some will do it a little better than others but they all will boil pretty quick. The svea123 always was amazing but the weight with the pocket stoves. It's a trade of constantly. 👍👍always good insight on your channel Dave
I started with a homemade alcohol soda can stove(s) and then bought a brass alcohol stove with a screw on lid and a simmer function. I forget the name or brand but many will know which I speak of. I believe it was originally a Swiss Army stove. I then from watching you tube hiking / backpacking videos seen when you could buy something close to the present day pocket rockets with a piezo click lighter, a plastic storage box for right around $7.00 shipped. yeah I know it’s a knock off right out of China but wanted to try this type of stove without spending $40.00. This is the stove I use and it works well. I know you can save weight with the alcohol stoves, but I like the adjustability of the gas stoves burner.
I've tried them all and prefer Primus classic for excellent heat distribution. The small ones make hot spots, good for nothing but boiling water
Love my Primus Classic! It’s a little heavier and bulkier, but like you say, very even heat and the pot supports make for pretty decent wind protection.
Optimus Crux Lite also does well for heat distribution and is super light weight. I can simmer and saute with it, but it is sensitive to wind.
Into The Wild
Primus Classic has served me well for a long time. I have 4 other stoves also.
I recently just bought a trangia alcohol stove that Im excited to use as a change of pace from the gas stoves
I like those tubular flasks that you light a fire in the centre of. Can't afford one myself but watched how fast they boil.
Big dividing point: two of these are gas stoves. These days, we might want to consider twig stoves and stoves that use a secondary burn of combustion gases. If still carried primer paste, I would seriously consider putting this kit and a primer tube of (Whatever) in my colder weather fire kit.
been using twig stoves before they were popular and one thing you will never run out of fuel.
One thing I like about the colman is it looks like it has a little better support for different size cups and water bottles. The one thing I dont like about the pocket rocket is it's easy to knock a bottle of it.
Awesome comparison since I work at Wal-Mart I'm gonna check that out
Love it!! I just bought the peak last winter.
these Test is exactly my taste. I like the measurement, and counting and express something with numbers. And on top the important facts that makes the different. like it
REAL EYE OPENER! i will get one for the camping set..safe journeys
I have al 3 stoves. The "Pocket Rocket' I bought several years ago at $35. Paid the same for the 'GigaPower'. The
Coleman stove I have is a little different than yours, an older model, but still relatively the same. I paid $20 for it.
The one thing I found from my experience is that all 3 stoves will give you better performance using a larger diameter cooking vessel than you were using. Most of my early testing was using a Snow Peak Trek 700. I also tested them with the Stanley Camp Cook Set. While I got decent boil times, I noticed that allot of flame wasn't directly hitting the bottom of the cooking vessels. So I started using larger diameter pots. Boil times decreased allot then. With more flame being directed at the bottom of the pot and not being lost at the side it heated a much larger area of the pot bottom and the heat transfer to the water increased.
However, the Pocket Rocket set up was the most unstable. Very little contact between the stove and cooking vessel. You had to be careful when using or you could lose the pot off the top of the stove. MSR has made improvements with it's newer versions of the stove. It consistently delivered the best boil times.
The GigaPower stove offered a little more stability, but slightly slower boil times. This became my 'go to' stove for warm weather camping/hiking.
The Coleman was the most stable but had the slowest boil times. However, I found that you had a little more flame control with it. I was easily able to turn down the flame easy and get into a semi simmer mode. However this stoves awkward shape and not having it's own storage unit kept it from being anywhere close to my go to unit.
In any event you'll not go wrong with any of these 3 stoves.
For colder weather I use a Svea 123 white gas stove.
You should also note that the Coleman stove was the last of three on the same canister of fuel. Wouldn't make much difference in thepressure/temperature but some.
Like your videos.
The lower velocity flame of the silent burner makes it more susceptible to wind for sure.
Good demo Dave, thanks. Take care.
Thanks Dave.
Agree with Moreno. Quieter burn may mean less fuel flow. Need to weigh canisters to determine actual fuel usage. Interesting video. The extra minute waiting on boil is not significant. And even if the Coleman burns a bit more fuel it would take a good while to burn up the cost difference between the stoves and money spent on fuel. Thanks.
Merry Christmas Dave. I appreciate and respect all of your knowledge and opinions my friend. I have the GSI Glacier camp stove which I purchased at Academy for $19.99. It's still new but if I ever need a replacement I will definitely consider the Coleman. Thank you. Great review. Tennessee
The Peak One Stove is a good little stove for the price point I have one in my vehicle bag. Great for coffee and a Mountain House Pepper Steak meal for lunch or heating up soups or canned pasta and tomato entrees aka Spaghetti O's
I like the peak 1 and others that have the larger burner head. I think for larger pots/pans the larger burner helps distribute the heat more evenly. Not a big fan of the canned fuel stoves either, but good to have for a quick hot drink or lunch..
Great comparison video. I would like to see a video on the Coleman duel fuel stove. Thanks for your product videos
The way to go is Firebox. Over forty years I have tried many stoves but firebox folds flat, can simmer, boils fast, can grill, uses fuel (wood) readily available in Europe and USA, fuel is free,is durable and lights at extremely low temperatures.
The downsides are the Firebox coats your pans in soot and is quite heavy ( 2 Lbs) but I will use Firebox above all other stoves.
I guess I don't get the hole wood box stove thing, If I am gonna go through starting a wood fire I can cook in hole, and not carry anything but a lighter eh'
@@DavidCanterbury Fair comment Dave, but to enlarge on my comment I live in Wales and many places I camp do not allow open fires but wood stoves are permissible. The other advantage of a Firebox is that it is designed to work with a Trangia spirit stove, providing it with a pot support and wind break.
I too would be happy to cook over a fire, mostly can't do it because I don't live in a fine country like the USA and have to obey lots of rules. The stoves you tested in this video are all good and I have used similar. I still stick with my original comment because wood stoves boil faster, fuel is free, lights in all conditions and fuel is easy to gather in my environment. Thank you for your videos, I have learnt many things and learning from each other and taking pleasure in camping in comfort is what it is all about.
Fair enough
Educational entertainment is always good in my humble opinion.
You and your family have a very merry Christmas
BRS 3000t titanium stove, .96 ounce, $15.90 is popular with long distance hikers on AT, CDT and PCT trails.
But no so popular with the reviewers on Amazon eh' If you have watched me for very long you know I will take durability over weight 10 times out of 10
I paid about $45.00 for an MSR pocket rocket a couple weeks ago. So the price hasnt changed much.
I have a stove made by monoprice. The design is spitting image of pocket rocket. Boil time is around 4 and a half minutes. It was $12
i have a 4 bucks gas stove from china, very similar to that 1st you tried, boiling time on a maximum for 250ml( iam from europe,hard to tell ounces in a second.) is 4.10sec. i tried inside, so there was no wind nor cold. 22c degree. it makes a lot of difference, so. but i have it like 5years now and it works perfectly.
Cool video, I have a sno peak but the pocket version even has its own pizo igniter. Can't beat that Coleman price though.
I found this interesting, because I compared different fuels for camp stoves in cold weather just 3 weeks ago. I however tried to manage five stoves at the same time, that wasn’t easy :-) I like your videos, I’d be happy to attend one of your courses when you visit Sweden or Scandinavia the next time.
I have a stove made by monoprice. The design is spitting image of pocket rocket. Boil time is around 4 and a half minutes. It was $12
Great comparison video!
Good video. I got pocket stove I got at a yard sale made in ( I thank USSR ) black gold and silver it sounds like a 747 jet takeoff loud but it will boil 15oz of water in 3.5 minutes & it will burn a small bottle of propane in no time. I paid $2 for it . Thank you for the info.
Like the heavier flanges on the Coleman better, they do not look like they would bend as easy if they get real hot.
Great video! Always learn something from your videos. We use a " Primus" from Walmart 20 bucks and boils water in record time. CS
I had fun watching water boil. Thanks!
My best stove is my cat food can stove with carbon felt for a wick. I only use this for boiling water
Good video Dave. I think you could have weighed the fuel tank as well, before and after each use to see how much fuel was consumed in order to reach full boil. Fuel consumption is important to know when deciding which product to use. The third stove was more quiet than than the other 2 and is half the cost, but it does weigh more, it takes up more room, and it takes longer to boil which means it may also burn more fuel. I appreciate you taking the time to test these products for us and it seemed like a fair test to me. I think though, we need a fuel consumption test. Maybe you could do a part 2 to this video. Thanks and have a Merry Christmas bud.
Depends on how much your going to use the stove. If you're going to use it a lot get the 5 minute stove. If you're going to use it only 2 or 3 times, get the cheap stove
It sounded like you had some wind. A wind screen would cut boil time. Good test on all 3 stoves.
Two snow peaks ride with my two dave canteen cup kits ... kewl ...
I would love to see a video comparing these stoves with a flow meter connected, and timed from/to a specific temperature, like maybe 48°F water to 212°F water at 70°F ambient temperature. That way we could see which stove uses less fuel to raise the temperature gradient a set amount. Honestly though, the Coleman stove is the one I would go for out of the three. It's quieter, most likely uses less fuel to achieve the same outcome, and is cheaper.
1947 Coleman 530 user over here.
Just picked up my Coleman peak stove today at Walmart $12 got an adapter on the way for 1 pound propane tanks.
I still have a msr pocket rocket from 20 odd years ago to 👍🏼
The MSR stove is on my list looks like a great stove I’m sure there’s something that’s good and cheaper but why not get something that’s a known and liked stove that’s my thought great video as usually 👍✌️
Coleman has been making a decent product at the right price point for a long time.
MSR pocket rocket...love mine. Had it 20 years...no problems. Boils fast and fuel lasts a good while. Jusr an observation. Using a wider pot traps more heat and boils faster....but I really dig that pathfinder kit.
You sell gear? I must be slipping.. Have to check it out.
Good vid Dave.
I picked up a Brunton Talon pocket stove back in 2009. Works like a charm. 10,000btu
Paid around $20. Great stove.
I think I recall you had a Brunton Flex stove. Did that stand the test of time?
The Coleman looks like it will be more efficient and there isnt as much blue flame escaping around the side of the cup. The quietness might be from not as much gas flow. So maybe the can will last longer with the Coleman?
Great comparison Dave. At the end of the day, like you say, the best strove to have out n the woods is the stove you have! LOL Merry Christmas to you and yours!
Good video Dave. Thanks for cranking them out lately. Merry Christmas buddy!
Great vid!! I actually put a peak1 in every kit I got.. Those things are inexpensive
Hey Dave! I love this channel, I've read two of your books, you're a great guy. Merry Christmas!
OUTSTANDING!
Great review on the stoves . Merry Christmas.
1.5 minutes isn't a lot, but over time the extra gas you use will add up to the 20 dollars you saved and then keep adding up more and more. Eventually, through the use of the extra gas, you'll lose far more than the 20 dollars you saved.
Without measuring gas, we can't know the amount it used just based on time. The longer run time was also quieter, which could also mean that it wasn't burning as much fuel per minute as the other two. We would really need to weigh the fuel canister to know.
You can reduce boiling time and increase efficiency by using a lid. Few minutes you save will make it up in the long run more than boiling for a minute longer.
Another good experiment would be to see which one last longest at full blast
Dave I am curious about your test. First I agree that a minute difference is nothing. I'm surprised there is any difference at all. I would think that using the same fuel in the tests that the temperature of the blue flame should be the same on all stoves. I'd love to see you be able to test the temperature of the flame from each stove. If they all test at the same temp then the time difference would have to be from other variables such as starting temp of the water or distance of the pot from the flame, oxygen mixture ect. I did notice the last stove had more yellow flames than the previous two. Great job pal. I think I'd choose the cheaper one. Thanks for sharing and Merry Christmas pal. God Bless.
If we dont see you before, Merry Christmas Dave
To get a accurate read you should have used a new canister on each boil for same pressure.
Butane stoves come even smaller for around the same price. But butane doesn't work well, (or at all) at very low temps, whereas propane does, down to around 50 below (F). So I got a nifty, very little (and cheap) thread adapter that accepts propane cartridges on the bottom, and the butane stove on the top. Propane canisters are heavier, 'cause they're steel, (due to pressure concerns at normal room temps and especially above), but they're cheap as anything, and available everywhere. If, for whatever reason, you're camping above the treeline, or in very cold temps, or don't want to produce any smoke, well, my little set-up fits in a large pill bottle, weighs less in total than all the gear featured today here, costs around the same or so, and gives me serious options, especially if boiling hot water's needed in a hurry, when general or personal SHTF. lol
If nothing else, for very wet or winter outings, when wood's or wind's a major issue, it'll do.
And, the propane cyl are refillable from larger tanks - saving money.
When I use a canister stove it is my Snow Peak, but most of the time I use my Svea stove.
Yup cost be a function 20 or less then 15 I'd take it . If I used one of them I use Esbit if not camp fire ! Next would be alcohol . I but that's a good book time maybe for a fishing trip that would be great ! Thanks brother merry Xmas to you and iris and family
Lid, Dave, Lid ;). Thanks for sharing these stoves with us and Merry Christmas brother.
Lid would have decreased by the same margin but made it impossible to see at the moment of boil? So I guess it really doesn't matter for this test
My DIY Fancy Feast alcohol stove might keep pace with these.
Dave, show us the 533 and how you pack. Extra fuel, etc. Thanks.