Very detailed video. Everything explained so clearly. Well done. I have an rtx 4060 and the pico 4 so I hope this will improve my experience. Thanks again
Your video and settings helped at great deal being that I have only had a Pico 4 for a few days. Your settings have proved to be a good starting point for me to tweak further. Thanks brother 👍
When I use my PICO 4 and DCS starts, it positions me very high in the hangar. It makes using the menu screen basically impossible. May I ask how you reposition yourself so that you can easily read the main menu? The "recenter VR headset" option does not appear to work until in flight.
Im having an issue where I can't load the game into my pico 4. Ive set steamvr as my open XR runtime yet i still get an eternal splashscreen. help pls?
Hi ! Il triying the Pico 4 on dcs. It is awesome but i've a Big issue with it : only on DCS, the image shaking a lot. Do you have an Idea for solve this ? I use le USB connection with Steam VR (oculus USB câble)
Thank you for the video. Currently, I have a 4070 ti in my computer and therefore the settings are a bit lower. However, I have the problem that during fast head movements, a black frame becomes visible, as if the image cannot be generated quickly enough. Do you or anyone else here have a similar problem?
To my knowledge, DCS displays the FPS counter from one eye only, not both; therefore in the context of DCS 45 + 45 = 90FPS. That was the intention behind the comment and not me trying to impart technical information regarding the headset.
@@suntsagancientgamer8241 vr only has one frame per frame, each eye is only ever presented the exact same slice of time. Anything else would be extremely unpleasant. One frame. Two viewpoints.
@@suntsagancientgamer8241 that's not how that works. 90hz mean that BOTH displays (eyes) in the headset update 90 times per second at the same time. is you are getting 90fps from a game you will get one frame per display update. if your game gets 45 fps each frame will be displayed for 2 update cycles. its not 45 + 45. each eye is getting 45 AT THE SAME TIME so the total is still 45 fps. but the same goes for 90fps its not 90 + 90.
Thanks for the video. I'm a big fan of the Pico 3 for some time now, but apart from capturing content with the Pico recorder at 30 fps, i have not found a way to get decent results for UA-cam videos. Your clips look smooth and clear. Is there any advice you could share ?
Instead of using the PD setting in DCS I leave that set to 1.0 and instead change the PD scale in SteamVR video settings, on my Pico and a 4090 that equates to somewhere between 250% and 270%, works very well indeed.
@@suntsagancientgamer8241 another quick one I was using the rift s for ages, now I've switched to the pico 4 and VD, when i move my head left and right and I'm chasing black bars on either side, I've tried to find a fix but I'm at a loss and its putting me off DCS in VR
What's your specs? Black bars that lag behind or infront usually are due to just lag in my experience I'm on the Rift S and Quest 2 and just bought a Pico 4 that should arrive this month. The only time I was chasing black bars in the Quest 2 or Rift S was wheb setting Pixel Density too high and lagging
Many thanks for sharing the Pico 4 setup. We have the same setup with the only differnce i have TTX 3080 but i am steel stuck in 25 FPS and in servers no mote than 14 to 21 FPS. I do also have the PC connected with lan cabke and VR wirelss with power cable. Aparaently somthing else is conflicting. It is possible to tell me your settinga in NVidia at Windows as i am getting crazy with this😅. Many Thanks
I have a hard wired good quality ethernet cable linking my router directly to my PC and only the PICO 4 is using a WiFi connection but honestly I don't know if that has a beneficial impact> I hope you manage to find a solution. 👍
@SUNTSAG ANCIENT GAMER many thanks for the response I have exactly the same arrangment with only diference the GPU. Somethings underperforming, and I am afraid that might be the NVidia drivers or the oculus programs from the previous VR headset. I hope with a full installtion the issue will stop.
Minute 1:00... terrible error. Both LCDs screens work at same frequency of 90 frames per second also known as 90Hz. Pixel Density should not be modified in the game as a more closer to hardware level is available and you have it and you actually already used it in Pico settings by setting the streaming to Ultra. Ultra is 2736x2726 per eye! If you want higher resolution you don't need to up it in DCS with 1.5 multiplier but simply go to Godlike which is 3120x3120. Virtual Desktop commands any game what native resolution Pico has essentially "lying" and asking a supersampled resolution. You should always try to minimize the number of systems or softwares that affect same settings... much like setting an antialiasing setting in Nvidia control panel and another one in game. It's almost always bad idea. Also... to record in Pico4 you can simply record in headset as it offloads a little the system but true you might get the artifacts of VD magic optimising masking. If you do record in headset make sure you don't go for max resolution and wide as it will simply mess up the image. Pico records only HD and selecting wide and maximum (or something) will first project a squared image and then add fake vertical bars to the sides to make it 16:9... Much like youtube does with portret recorded footage adding parts of it to the sides to make it landscape. And finally... this movie does not address at all the elephant in the living room. How to make Pico 4 not use Steam VR but use another OpenXR source like the non Multi Threading version does. Fact that basically nullifies the gains of MT imho. PS The MT version is also somehow bugged... for example selecting english cockpit for Mi-24 and starting training missions will get you russian cockpit...
1. This is a video purely about setup for use within DCS. 2. To my knowledge, DCS displays the FPS counter from one eye only, not both; therefore in the context of DCS 45 + 45 = 90FPS. That was the intention behind the comment and not me trying to impart technical information regarding the headset. 3. Clarity from within the headset is a very high personal preference for me and having decent clarity using the PICO 4 was my primary objective. The settings I have shared achieved exactly that for me and my setup. Whether that happens to be a mix of visual settings or not. 4. Yes you can record from directly within the headset but I use either shadow play or OBS for my video capture which is my personal preference and the results speak for themselves. Again this video is not designed to explain the features of the PICO 4. 5. There is no elephant in the room as you put it because it has no relevance in the context of this video. I am explaining the basic requirements that are currently available to PICO 4 users.
@@suntsagancientgamer8241 Friend, there is no need to convolute justify the fps thing as it was simply a mistake from your part but needs to be corrected, An acceptable and human mistake as long as you don't continue it. DCS shows FPS. Just like Steam, Just like VD (press both buttons on both thumbstick at same time or tick show performance in menu) all fps are the same. And they are from one eye because its irrelevant to count them both as two separate fps or add them or whatever other complex mathematics. If you have 45 FPS in right eye be sure you have 45fps in left eye also. This means EACH frame is displayed twice for 90HZ refresh rate. There are also some blank frames introduced by the hardware but lets not complicate the matter now. When you reach 90FPS that means each frame is displayed once for a 90Hz refresh rate. Once you passed 90fps some of the frames must be discarded. When you say you have 90Hz so effectively 45FPS you are simply wrong. 90HZ MEANS 90FPS for the screen. If game freezes and shows 0FPS on the actual screen that last frame will be displayed still 90 times every single second until you kill it. If the games shows you 90FPS that means you have 90 FPS for each eye displayed in synq with your refresh rate of the panel. As simple as that. And the elephant I was speaking is relevant but you as a new owner of Pico probably are just scratching the surface of the field. So... welcome! You will see it later. Cheers!
@@virusandtech7788 As far as I am aware your settings would need to be between POTATO and HIGH to be able to activate the supersampling option I am already running higher than that. 👍 I will try it out however Thanks for the heads up,
Very detailed video. Everything explained so clearly. Well done. I have an rtx 4060 and the pico 4 so I hope this will improve my experience. Thanks again
Your video and settings helped at great deal being that I have only had a Pico 4 for a few days. Your settings have proved to be a good starting point for me to tweak further. Thanks brother 👍
When I use my PICO 4 and DCS starts, it positions me very high in the hangar. It makes using the menu screen basically impossible. May I ask how you reposition yourself so that you can easily read the main menu? The "recenter VR headset" option does not appear to work until in flight.
Im having an issue where I can't load the game into my pico 4. Ive set steamvr as my open XR runtime yet i still get an eternal splashscreen. help pls?
Do we need OpenXR? If so appreciate if a tutorial could be done on that too.
Do you know how to use OpenXR on Pico4 as well?
Hi !
Il triying the Pico 4 on dcs. It is awesome but i've a Big issue with it : only on DCS, the image shaking a lot. Do you have an Idea for solve this ? I use le USB connection with Steam VR (oculus USB câble)
Thank you for the video. Currently, I have a 4070 ti in my computer and therefore the settings are a bit lower. However, I have the problem that during fast head movements, a black frame becomes visible, as if the image cannot be generated quickly enough. Do you or anyone else here have a similar problem?
I have the same symptoms, but I don't know the solution
I love VR, hope you get it working nice and get the full experience
why not use Streaming Assistant?
First things first.
There is no "Per eye" refresh rate, each eye will always get both frames at the same time, there is no mismatch there.
To my knowledge, DCS displays the FPS counter from one eye only, not both; therefore in the context of DCS 45 + 45 = 90FPS. That was the intention behind the comment and not me trying to impart technical information regarding the headset.
@@suntsagancientgamer8241 vr only has one frame per frame, each eye is only ever presented the exact same slice of time. Anything else would be extremely unpleasant.
One frame. Two viewpoints.
@@suntsagancientgamer8241 that's not how that works. 90hz mean that BOTH displays (eyes) in the headset update 90 times per second at the same time. is you are getting 90fps from a game you will get one frame per display update. if your game gets 45 fps each frame will be displayed for 2 update cycles. its not 45 + 45. each eye is getting 45 AT THE SAME TIME so the total is still 45 fps. but the same goes for 90fps its not 90 + 90.
Thanks for the video. I'm a big fan of the Pico 3 for some time now, but apart from capturing content with the Pico recorder at 30 fps, i have not found a way to get decent results for UA-cam videos. Your clips look smooth and clear. Is there any advice you could share ?
Thank you very much!!
Hi Suntsag. Great and to the point video. What settings so you have in SteamVR?
Instead of using the PD setting in DCS I leave that set to 1.0 and instead change the PD scale in SteamVR video settings, on my Pico and a 4090 that equates to somewhere between 250% and 270%, works very well indeed.
whats your settings. I also got 4090.
Perfect. This worked a treat for me .thankyou
I have a Chinese version Pico 4 and I am not able to get VD on it. Is it possible to use the inbuilt Streaming Assistant?
Streaming Assistant
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Can i use this game setup for Oculas 2 ?
To be honest I don't honestly know but I guess you could use it as a starting point.
have you tried DCS with the pico 4 streaming assistant? its hit and miss for me
I have and I found it to be awful in comparison virtual desktop.
@@suntsagancientgamer8241 another quick one I was using the rift s for ages, now I've switched to the pico 4 and VD, when i move my head left and right and I'm chasing black bars on either side, I've tried to find a fix but I'm at a loss and its putting me off DCS in VR
What's your specs? Black bars that lag behind or infront usually are due to just lag in my experience
I'm on the Rift S and Quest 2 and just bought a Pico 4 that should arrive this month. The only time I was chasing black bars in the Quest 2 or Rift S was wheb setting Pixel Density too high and lagging
@@liam33222 Having the same issue and it really put a damper on my DCS.
Many thanks for sharing the Pico 4 setup. We have the same setup with the only differnce i have TTX 3080 but i am steel stuck in 25 FPS and in servers no mote than 14 to 21 FPS. I do also have the PC connected with lan cabke and VR wirelss with power cable. Aparaently somthing else is conflicting. It is possible to tell me your settinga in NVidia at Windows as i am getting crazy with this😅. Many Thanks
I have a hard wired good quality ethernet cable linking my router directly to my PC and only the PICO 4 is using a WiFi connection but honestly I don't know if that has a beneficial impact> I hope you manage to find a solution. 👍
@SUNTSAG ANCIENT GAMER many thanks for the response I have exactly the same arrangment with only diference the GPU. Somethings underperforming, and I am afraid that might be the NVidia drivers or the oculus programs from the previous VR headset. I hope with a full installtion the issue will stop.
@@suntsagancientgamer8241 So you did this wireless? wouldnt the quality be better wired?
Minute 1:00... terrible error.
Both LCDs screens work at same frequency of 90 frames per second also known as 90Hz.
Pixel Density should not be modified in the game as a more closer to hardware level is available and you have it and you actually already used it in Pico settings by setting the streaming to Ultra.
Ultra is 2736x2726 per eye! If you want higher resolution you don't need to up it in DCS with 1.5 multiplier but simply go to Godlike which is 3120x3120. Virtual Desktop commands any game what native resolution Pico has essentially "lying" and asking a supersampled resolution. You should always try to minimize the number of systems or softwares that affect same settings... much like setting an antialiasing setting in Nvidia control panel and another one in game. It's almost always bad idea.
Also... to record in Pico4 you can simply record in headset as it offloads a little the system but true you might get the artifacts of VD magic optimising masking. If you do record in headset make sure you don't go for max resolution and wide as it will simply mess up the image. Pico records only HD and selecting wide and maximum (or something) will first project a squared image and then add fake vertical bars to the sides to make it 16:9... Much like youtube does with portret recorded footage adding parts of it to the sides to make it landscape.
And finally... this movie does not address at all the elephant in the living room. How to make Pico 4 not use Steam VR but use another OpenXR source like the non Multi Threading version does. Fact that basically nullifies the gains of MT imho.
PS The MT version is also somehow bugged... for example selecting english cockpit for Mi-24 and starting training missions will get you russian cockpit...
1. This is a video purely about setup for use within DCS.
2. To my knowledge, DCS displays the FPS counter from one eye only, not both; therefore in the context of DCS 45 + 45 = 90FPS. That was the intention behind the comment and not me trying to impart technical information regarding the headset.
3. Clarity from within the headset is a very high personal preference for me and having decent clarity using the PICO 4 was my primary objective. The settings I have shared achieved exactly that for me and my setup. Whether that happens to be a mix of visual settings or not.
4. Yes you can record from directly within the headset but I use either shadow play or OBS for my video capture which is my personal preference and the results speak for themselves. Again this video is not designed to explain the features of the PICO 4.
5. There is no elephant in the room as you put it because it has no relevance in the context of this video. I am explaining the basic requirements that are currently available to PICO 4 users.
@@suntsagancientgamer8241
Friend, there is no need to convolute justify the fps thing as it was simply a mistake from your part but needs to be corrected, An acceptable and human mistake as long as you don't continue it.
DCS shows FPS. Just like Steam, Just like VD (press both buttons on both thumbstick at same time or tick show performance in menu) all fps are the same. And they are from one eye because its irrelevant to count them both as two separate fps or add them or whatever other complex mathematics. If you have 45 FPS in right eye be sure you have 45fps in left eye also.
This means EACH frame is displayed twice for 90HZ refresh rate. There are also some blank frames introduced by the hardware but lets not complicate the matter now. When you reach 90FPS that means each frame is displayed once for a 90Hz refresh rate. Once you passed 90fps some of the frames must be discarded.
When you say you have 90Hz so effectively 45FPS you are simply wrong.
90HZ MEANS 90FPS for the screen. If game freezes and shows 0FPS on the actual screen that last frame will be displayed still 90 times every single second until you kill it. If the games shows you 90FPS that means you have 90 FPS for each eye displayed in synq with your refresh rate of the panel.
As simple as that.
And the elephant I was speaking is relevant but you as a new owner of Pico probably are just scratching the surface of the field. So... welcome! You will see it later.
Cheers!
I'm with Suntsag. I set up my Pico 4 with dcs and when I choose 72 hz refresh rate, dcs fps is capped at 36. With 90 Hz, fps is capped at 45.
@@DrGonzo94 I can't confirm that. DCS goes over 45fps for me.
What's your video card? Is your connection wired? Thanks
I have an RTX 3090 and the Pico 4 connection is wireless, although I do have a cable to maintain battery charge.
@@suntsagancientgamer8241 hi, have you tried the new vd version from yesterday?It has this new supersampling option done on the headset
@@virusandtech7788 Where can i find this new supersampling ?
@@virusandtech7788 As far as I am aware your settings would need to be between POTATO and HIGH to be able to activate the supersampling option I am already running higher than that. 👍 I will try it out however Thanks for the heads up,