I took Ed to master rank, and I still have no idea if he's strong

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  • @BroskiFGC
    @BroskiFGC  9 місяців тому +110

    Mentioned it in the video but we hit the 500 subs goal on twitch. Thanks to everyone who's been coming through and supporting, the full comprehensive AKI guide video has officially begun production (but like I said expect it to drop after the big balance patch so it isnt immediately outdated).

  • @sethnewlin6350
    @sethnewlin6350 9 місяців тому +182

    I played Ed back in SFV, his simple inputs and gameplan made him a pretty good way to learn how to play Street Fighter. Now that I've gotten better at street fighter, it's kinda cool that my "starter" character has so much more depth

    • @LAAV69
      @LAAV69 9 місяців тому +17

      I feel the same about Nero between Devil May Cry 4 and 5. The surface stays easy, they just make it deeper.

    • @dandiestspaceman4437
      @dandiestspaceman4437 9 місяців тому +4

      I'm in the exact same boat as you it's really cool

  • @drywalleater2661
    @drywalleater2661 9 місяців тому +31

    If you're reading this, Broski- you don't need to hold the HP for the full 69 frames to get psycho knuckle. You can half charge it and it'll still come out

    • @DEClimax
      @DEClimax 9 місяців тому +13

      it doesn't go through fireballs if you half charge, though

    • @rynzero_
      @rynzero_ 9 місяців тому +1

      ​@@DEClimaxthis is good knowledge. I was getting frustrated because I wasn't going through fireballs like the trailer showed

    • @parafaust6201
      @parafaust6201 8 місяців тому

      hehehehehehehehehehe

  • @MrGumbymoto
    @MrGumbymoto 9 місяців тому +12

    As an SFV Ed main he has yet to click with me mechanically, but Capcom hit it out of the park with his redesign. Ed matured his mechanics as well by finally synthesizing what he learned from boxer w/ his inherited Psycho power. I guess its time for me to learn a harder character than Marisa, who Ive been playing while I waited for him to come out.

    • @Mitsu_Vagrant
      @Mitsu_Vagrant 9 місяців тому +1

      You and I have been doing the exact same thing lol. I’ve mained Marisa while waiting for Ed, too.
      Unfortunately for me, the more complex the character is, the more I’m exposing myself as a fraud, as it turns out. I need the simpler inputs/character/gameplan to do well. I think I might just suck at SF…

  • @lookiecookie5150
    @lookiecookie5150 9 місяців тому +17

    I really like the way he is no longer easy to use. Being as technical as he is, makes him more interesting to play.

  • @truemanace2494
    @truemanace2494 9 місяців тому +27

    As an Ed main coming from 5, I REALLY love the new Ed, and I want to think he is top 1 because I think he's really cool :)

  • @CeilingPanda
    @CeilingPanda 9 місяців тому +6

    The Aki player getting pretty solid Aki from Broski is the highest Aki honor you can get :)

  • @creyosbear
    @creyosbear 9 місяців тому +3

    I love that you usually dodge SF6 music, but for Ed you got his theme going. I guess this means we agree his theme is FIRE and much better than the rest in this game !

  • @PomadaGaming
    @PomadaGaming 9 місяців тому +5

    22:15 _casually jumps/cuts to 1600 MR_

  • @achair7958
    @achair7958 9 місяців тому +18

    I think he's mid to high tier but not top. He's good at his space control shenanigans but he has too severe weaknesses to be top.
    More importantly, Ed is cool, Ed is fun, and he doesn't seem to be buggy (although I've seen a couple of cases of people falling out of his level 1)

    • @danishiqbal2963
      @danishiqbal2963 9 місяців тому

      Finally i play him without someone who bugging me for enjoy top tier lol.

  • @5milemacc737
    @5milemacc737 9 місяців тому +6

    I have to remind myself to never tech throws in this game, I get blown up for teching more than anything in SF6. Maybe it's a me problem lol but im always tempted to tech on wakeup.

    • @pretzels7437
      @pretzels7437 9 місяців тому +1

      Its not just you, sfv ruined me

    • @5milemacc737
      @5milemacc737 9 місяців тому

      @@pretzels7437 throw looping or delayed throwing is such a good option I expect them to use it more than they do and I end up teching as they jump so often lol.

  • @meatwadisgod
    @meatwadisgod 9 місяців тому +4

    Feels like Idk how to punish Ed 70% of the time but he's such a cool character.

  • @KALSKingdom
    @KALSKingdom 9 місяців тому +3

    I have a Master Jamie & D5 Luke but for whatever reason Ed just CANNOT click with me. I wanna make him work but he’s just so weird I’m never using the right tools in the right situations. Respect to anyone that’s able to get him to Master THIS quickly. You have to be damn good at SF to do that.

    • @uhskn9753
      @uhskn9753 8 місяців тому

      I was feeling the same, any was getting really frustrated, but I grinded out 1000 games and my main takeaway is...plat players LOVE to jump/DI (I completely forgot after playing in masters so long...) and also, his crouching LP you can't DI from which feels super weird. I'm winning like 70% now though in d2. Once you really understand your no.1 priority is baiting jump/DI, he becomes super strong zoner

  • @damonblack1495
    @damonblack1495 9 місяців тому +3

    I would consider myself an Ed main in sf5. However, I didn't start playing sf5 til after sf6 was already announced and the last time I played sf before 5 was sf2 super turbo at a friends house during high school. I should also note I picked Ed up in sf5 due to his ease of use and as such I play modern in sf6.
    So if you want to know what a sf5 Ed main thinks about his sf6 rendition I can hook you up. But again, it's coming from a modern player who didn't spend years in sf5. He isn't the same character. That is for sure. But I find him to be a more enjoyable character. I also think his game plan, strength's and weakness's are more well defined and pronounced.
    Ed is listed as a long range character and controlling mid-long range space is what he wants to do. And he can do it well. He can bait so many options out of an opponent. He has a ton of tools to use in the neutral to keep him hard to read to enforce this. His poor jabs and awkward jump ins are his clear weakness's.
    It's so funny to me now all these Ed fans and players who were hiding away. Every other match is vs an Ed right now. When I don't think I ever played a mirror online in sf5 during nearly the year I was playing. But...
    I won't be able to main or even play Ed in the foreseeable future in sf6 though. My daughter, who also likes to grind some ranked, will not let me play anyone who is "her character". Which is any boy character she thinks is cute or girl character she thinks is cool I can't play. It is what it is. I remain a modern Ryu main because he is old and not cool.

  • @ManateeMentality
    @ManateeMentality 9 місяців тому

    Ed’s throws are so cool. He just grabs you, hits you with a light strike, and then send you flying with a hook to the face.

  • @baines803
    @baines803 9 місяців тому +8

    As someone who played ed in 5 he's still cool it actually took more time to get used to his new dash than it did any of his normal moves lol

  • @reeidly
    @reeidly 9 місяців тому +2

    should i do the "commenting for engagement" bit again? who knows. Either way, good stuff broski.

  • @LAAV69
    @LAAV69 9 місяців тому +2

    I looked up Skibidi and can now say I have lost touch with the kids.
    Appreciate the Brisket reference, Broski.

  • @Mitsu_Vagrant
    @Mitsu_Vagrant 9 місяців тому

    To answer your question as an SFV Ed main, Broski…
    I don’t think I’m going to be maining him unless something clicks soon. Like you said, completely different character with a completely different kit and gameplan. What I liked about SFV Ed is I could focus on my gameplan and reactions without being mentally overwhelmed with making sure my inputs were perfect every time. That’s what I liked about SFV Ed: his simple inputs. And, no, I don’t like modern controls. I’m too used to the standard SF 6-button control scheme. Been following competitive SF since SSF4.

  • @AreleventWolf
    @AreleventWolf 9 місяців тому

    As an Ed main from SFV he's fairly similar in gameplan. Fireball+AA+charge h punch etc... Just flicker and cr med kick are real different. I think the changes make him real strong in this game at mid rng.

  • @Nykdos
    @Nykdos 9 місяців тому +1

    21:19 did Ed just nullify an OD projectile without needing to OD himself?

  • @AJMurdoc
    @AJMurdoc 9 місяців тому

    Side note your music selection on stream is 👌

  • @harryf9885
    @harryf9885 9 місяців тому +3

    I think they should have kept the “1!2!3!” Voiceline for the psycho blitz. Embrace the meme.
    the move is completely different now and what he said while using it is not what made it annoying, the move being annoying is what made the voiceline annoying and it just feels weird he doesn’t say it anymore.
    Edit: Also he says “think fast”when he uses DI which is exactly the same thing Juri says and it bugs me, like give him a unique line lol. Otherwise I like his design from what I have seen so far.

  • @RockBottom7626
    @RockBottom7626 9 місяців тому +10

    I think Ed is a character that is going to keep climbing tier lists as people play him.
    Ed in theory has every tool, but strange versions of them.
    Excellent anti-airs in terms of damage potential, but hard to actually use.
    Good drive rush, but also a character that excels in midrange with excellent options to stop drive rushes.
    He is clunky to use though and his 2LP is a crime that should be judged infront of Den Haag.
    My biggest problem is that his defense completely sucks, but system mechanics are so strong in SF6 that ED could become the HC of SF6.
    I call that without changes he will be considered top tier, but will have some polarizing matchups and is very volatile.

    • @Switcheroo4542
      @Switcheroo4542 9 місяців тому

      What do you mean by the "HC of SF6"
      who's HC

    • @Angel7black
      @Angel7black 9 місяців тому +5

      @@Switcheroo4542im not a GG player, but im pretty confident he means Happy Chaos. I have no opinion on whether hes right or not

    • @RockBottom7626
      @RockBottom7626 9 місяців тому +1

      @@Angel7black
      Correct.
      Adding to my reasoning:
      HC in Strive was a very dominant character who was uniquely strong on offense and had very unintuitive play against him and for ED I kinda feel similar that the opponent needs to know more about you than you need to know about them to even have a chance.

    • @saado99
      @saado99 9 місяців тому

      Ed's drive rush is definitely not good. I think it sucks ass honestly. Not only just the range and speed, but also the normals from it are soo bad in terms of advantage and pushback..

    • @DEClimax
      @DEClimax 9 місяців тому +1

      he doesn't have every tool though, in theory or practice. he lacks an overhead, for instance. he has no fast reversal option. no regular EX fireball to chain to from pokes that naturally beats DI. etc etc

  • @VoidEternal
    @VoidEternal 9 місяців тому

    Ah finally. An honest video title. :D

  • @dectilon
    @dectilon 9 місяців тому

    I'm not 100% sure new Ed is for me, but I still like the redesign. He's a much more interesting character now.

  • @hihellokitty85
    @hihellokitty85 9 місяців тому +1

    Don't worry grasshopper, you will know when you reach the Legend rank, or not.

    • @kuthulius
      @kuthulius 9 місяців тому

      One of the highest ranking players is a Lily main and Broski is legend with A.K.I. so legend doesn't mean shit in terms of character strength

  • @actuallynotsteve
    @actuallynotsteve 9 місяців тому +1

    Ed has been destroying me in ranked, but I've been winning almost every other matchup.
    Maybe it's always been there, but I noticed last night that win streaks seen to generate RP multipliers, I was getting 50->100->150+ before it'd reset after losing to Ed.
    Maybe it's just me, but the Ed/Juri matchup feels rough

    • @calmguru1274
      @calmguru1274 9 місяців тому +4

      Below platinum there is a winstreak bonus

    • @aledantih6524
      @aledantih6524 9 місяців тому

      Yeah it makes sense that MU would be rough, Juri gets her pressure pretty much exclusively from horizontal movement and Ed not only has a decent fireball but a lot of fast strings to stop approaches

    • @actuallynotsteve
      @actuallynotsteve 9 місяців тому

      @@calmguru1274 ahhh that makes sense, I got back to plat and called it a night because like half of my ranked matches were against Ed or Ken

    • @actuallynotsteve
      @actuallynotsteve 9 місяців тому

      @@aledantih6524 yup that's exactly how I feel, he's got all the tools to shut down juris usual gameplan and I'm trying to figure out how to adjust

  • @dylanmckay984
    @dylanmckay984 9 місяців тому

    I'm an Ed fan, and I think his new kit is super cool to watch. I am also pretty disappointed by it because I thought his design philosophy was so great in 5, and they really did a complete 180 on his accessibility. It vibed with me a lot and modern controls feel like an awkward replacement. I'm hoping I'll like playing him when I get some time! But I can't really say I do yet.

  • @saado99
    @saado99 9 місяців тому

    From using Ed a lot, initially thought he would be really good, now I think if he does turn out to be really good, it will be because his lvl2 super makes up for the character.
    I think he's alright, very unorthodox and not typical. Normals are really good, damage is alright it's not that good.. flicker right now is really good but a lot of flicker stuff is so fake and DIable, or parry to ruin the mixup. Eventually that stuff will be exposed.
    My main issue right now is, how hard it is to actually interrupt fake pressure with jabs because his 4f jabs don't reach properly, this is coupled with he doesn't really have a safe special he can cancel into properly. If he does flicker, that's DIable, and if he does the fireball, that is safe at-3 but no range so if anything that's a huge risk, its like-20 if it whiffs. Also stand MK TC suffers from zangief chop syndrome, it whiffs a lot.
    The antiairs are brutal with the character. For a character that's supposed to be poking with the normals and the flickers, it is very hard to antiair with the character and honestly stop really dumb shit in general. Like just stopping really obvious stuff is a challenge with Ed that I think any other standard character would quickly shutdown, maybe that will change.
    He's hella fun, maybe too challenging for his own right. I'm interested to see what kind of stuff people come up with with lvl2, as of right now it's definitely hella good maybe even better than lvl3 because you build a ton of super and drive gauge back, basically pays for itself.

    • @clarissa1643
      @clarissa1643 9 місяців тому

      Flicker is not di'able if the Ed know what they're doing. You can back sway out of charging flicker and then HP for a big punish.

    • @clarissa1643
      @clarissa1643 9 місяців тому

      Very much agreed on his jabs though. They are just awful

    • @saado99
      @saado99 9 місяців тому

      @@clarissa1643 I know about the back sway, from certain normals and spacings that is possible, but I'm talking about from closer or other normals, or even just OD, like random DIs will completely just beat it. Even doing stand LK TC, which I guess you're supposed to use and instead of jabs, even that loses to DIs lol

    • @clarissa1643
      @clarissa1643 9 місяців тому

      🤷‍♀️ dont charge flicker in their face idk what to tell you

    • @saado99
      @saado99 9 місяців тому

      @@clarissa1643 I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about, you can't really poke with flicker from normals that aren't stand HP, crouch MK because there is a significant risk of getting hit with a DI.

  • @Balthazar228
    @Balthazar228 9 місяців тому +1

    Now if it was Hakan instead of Ed, getting to diamond would confirm his strength

    • @Near_Pluto_
      @Near_Pluto_ 9 місяців тому

      Hakan for sf6 when???

  • @sergiok6660
    @sergiok6660 9 місяців тому +2

    Everyone says he plays completely diff than sfv ed, but he still shares a ton of similarities lol most people that day that, didn't really play old ed. He's just much more complex this time around, but he'll fill a similar role in the meta imo.

  • @merkyofaycemfx2944
    @merkyofaycemfx2944 9 місяців тому

    I really liked him in 5. I can't put my finger on it, but I don't really like the direction they went with his design in 6. It's a neat take on his kit, but there's something special about being able to turn off my brain for a few seconds, letting the unga take over and then sprinkling in sequences in between that make me look like I'm a competent player.

    • @nickkiller-0710
      @nickkiller-0710 9 місяців тому +3

      IMO his game plan was a lot more straightforward in V and his combo routes were pretty simple, but he did have some quirky tools that gave him some charm.
      He was very comfy to play, I think that's a really underrated thing about his design back then.
      SF6 Ed is really cool, but he's definitely more sweaty.

    • @merkyofaycemfx2944
      @merkyofaycemfx2944 9 місяців тому

      @@nickkiller-0710 Don't get me wrong, I think his new design is great, but it's just not for me. I tried my best to come up with a word i wanted to use to describe his playstyle, but comfy sums it all up. For me, Capcom lost the plot with his design, but I appreciate taking big swings like they did.

  • @佐佐木きのこ
    @佐佐木きのこ 9 місяців тому +1

    Weather storg or not he sure is fun as hell

  • @thirael
    @thirael 9 місяців тому +2

    i tought the highest rank you could get out of placement wath diamond 1, did that change or was it always the case that you could place in high diamond straight away ? (i wouldn't know obviously)

    • @NAM_137
      @NAM_137 9 місяців тому +4

      They changed it a couple months back. Diamond 1 was previously the upper limit.

    • @SpankinDaBagel
      @SpankinDaBagel 9 місяців тому

      I definitely placed into diamond 2 about 3-4ish months ago. That's all I know though. ​@@NAM_137

  • @garretwoeller7669
    @garretwoeller7669 9 місяців тому +1

    Honestly same I can't tell if he good or bad or just okay so far biggest gripe he doesn't have a standing overhead or lower

    • @aledantih6524
      @aledantih6524 9 місяців тому +1

      That stand 4 really feels like it should hit low and the forward hp feels like it should be an overhead

    • @garretwoeller7669
      @garretwoeller7669 9 місяців тому +1

      @@aledantih6524 I know I said the same shit as a Sagat main I love good overheads and standing lows

  • @PomadaGaming
    @PomadaGaming 9 місяців тому

    Makes sense. I didn’t place him that high but imma try with him

    • @PomadaGaming
      @PomadaGaming 9 місяців тому

      0:23 yo mr legend aki
      3:16 oh dang kusanagi
      4:29 oh sfv theme. It kinda fits
      5:05 nice
      6:54 lol yeah i’m curious too
      7:12 fo sure
      22:15 _casually jumps to 1600 MR_

  • @Ruby-yb8kk
    @Ruby-yb8kk 9 місяців тому

    Words are words and something something

  • @shorteststraw417
    @shorteststraw417 9 місяців тому +1

    ED IS COOL!

  • @ItzSadSanchez
    @ItzSadSanchez 9 місяців тому

    What would you recommend for best matchmaking? I still seem to struggle with getting frequent matches.

    • @Eidlones
      @Eidlones 9 місяців тому

      Worldwide. It looks for close matches, then widens the search area of it can't find any.

  • @PandorusFightStick
    @PandorusFightStick 9 місяців тому

    been loving ed!! he is soo much fun!

  • @xGusth
    @xGusth 9 місяців тому +2

    I feel the same way he looks cool and strong but at the same time I feel like when people figure him out he'll be easy to deal with, level 8 CPU has some pretty simple ways to completely nullify the character.

  • @rundown132
    @rundown132 9 місяців тому +11

    I think if he had a jab and a reliable antiair I think he'd be top tier

    • @notmyfullname598
      @notmyfullname598 9 місяців тому +16

      Idk, he's very vulnerable to di and also he suffers from having no overhead, and he struggles to get reliable plus frames it seems

    • @dontworryaboutit5490
      @dontworryaboutit5490 9 місяців тому

      @@notmyfullname598agreed

    • @exorius
      @exorius 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@notmyfullname598 I hate that he has no overhead and his jump ins are garbage

    • @AaronW0885
      @AaronW0885 9 місяців тому +2

      His jump ins do suck and the no overhead hurts but uh no reliable anti air?? Invincible dps for three ranges, cr mk works for far out jumps, and st hk is pretty good too.

    • @servebotfrank4082
      @servebotfrank4082 9 місяців тому +4

      @@AaronW0885The main issue for his DPs is that they are slow. So if you are slightly late with your reactions then they will block your DP on landing. This is mostly noticeable on cross cuts.

  • @Stayfree10165
    @Stayfree10165 9 місяців тому

    Ed main here, he just plays way to different in this game. I’m 50/50 he’s way too technical. I’m still waiting for my mains to come back 😢

  • @Chickenthoefvola
    @Chickenthoefvola 9 місяців тому

    If I wanted to watch people play sf like they have no idea how to play. Id turn on my console

  • @wra7h
    @wra7h 9 місяців тому

    how is he not strong...

  • @barca4078
    @barca4078 9 місяців тому

    ed is cool

  • @bearjingle5316
    @bearjingle5316 9 місяців тому

    do you think ed is into bdsm?

  • @5milemacc737
    @5milemacc737 9 місяців тому

    He's top 10 imo

    • @2Namii
      @2Namii 9 місяців тому

      No

    • @5milemacc737
      @5milemacc737 9 місяців тому

      @@2Namii he’s at the very bottom of the top ten but he could be it’s possible.

  • @kacperparzecki7164
    @kacperparzecki7164 9 місяців тому +1

    He is pretty strong, his normals are okaish, with flicker punches being very good, fireball game is also alright
    His damage is mediocre, but his pressure is high and he can combo out of anti airs so instead of doing 2 big combos you do 3-4 smaller ones with medium investment of drive/super bars
    His + frames make threatening guess situations and his movement off of killer rush can wiff bait so many long range pokes
    = he is pretty damn good AND saucy

  • @JS-zz9lg
    @JS-zz9lg 9 місяців тому +1

    Fought an Ed that tried to fully engage me in a fireball war, it wasnt until i started using sonic blade I realized he can't hang in that regard, still no idea on his strength, hes weird

    • @Switcheroo4542
      @Switcheroo4542 9 місяців тому +4

      With good timing, he can cancel out your projectile with the starter and also send out his own after
      by that point he's won most of the screen in the fireball war
      and he has a slow moving OD projectile
      He's not great at fireball wars but there might be potential for people to get good at them with Ed

    • @GarethXL
      @GarethXL 9 місяців тому +2

      yeah guile has to be one of his worst matchup in the game
      even fighting a silver guile who's just holding down back you literally can do nothing but wait, and it's all due to him not having a standing overhead you don't have the drive rush into over head check

  • @Nazarus1983
    @Nazarus1983 9 місяців тому +1

    As someone who played Ed as my main in sfv I don't like this new version at all. I'm trying to use him now but it may be a wrap honestly.

  • @dmtmediabrothers
    @dmtmediabrothers 9 місяців тому

    I think hes mid tier tbh

  • @finatics5385
    @finatics5385 9 місяців тому

    It's time like this week, that i am happy to fight a ken/luke/ jp; and NOT 5+ Ed in a row.
    By the way, all you Ed user, you will eat a DI everytime you do hp into od grab move when you are playing a capable player.
    Stop abusing stupid tactics.