How Cheap Players RUIN The NEW Players And Community! - Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2
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- Опубліковано 29 гру 2020
- How Cheap Players RUIN The NEW Players And Community!
Dragon Ball Xenoverse 2's Player Base has ROTTED The New Players and made them all cheap without even knowing the BASICS OF THE GAME!
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Zeno really said "the battles kinda boring now"
finally that line speaks the truth
Agreed
“I wanna see more… more KA-BOOM!” There have not been any wiser things said about this game.
That guy was roasted by Zeno Sama
I run into cheese more than skilled players.
Same there’s so many shitters in this game
@@carlitossisok1498 i remember fighting lag switcher and lost because of it.
I lost in ranked but it was ok because he had actual skill
Here’s the funny thing, when I was playing Ranked and won 10 times in a row, I got reported by so many players that I was later permanently branded a red name in all servers I enter. And get this, I became a red name because the cheap players I beat reported me for beating them over and over again
@@TheDeviantDon that messed up
That broly is the literal definition of insanity
*stupidity
@@drypo6589 no he was right
@@radveggie5586 somehow I think they are both right
@@drypo6589 Google the definition of insanity before you try to correct someone
@@cf7556 I wasn’t trying to correct him tho I was adding to what he said
"There's no sign of intelligent life anywhere..."
and thats why i love playing with mods on PC as i dont use them online cuz if i did itd make me a hypocrite for calling out bullshitters i faced on console, granted yea i dont get to fight other players which can be a downer at times but some of the mods out there for PC can be rather enjoyable even if there's no other human players to enjoy them with
@@ARCEUS493ZELDA Ya, same here. After a while of playing 'normally', I jumped onto the playing-offline-with-mods train because I don't play online anymore because of the amount of BS that's out there... ehhh, as Deon aka SeeReax said more than once - "I just wish DB Xenoverse2 was a great game, that lives up to it's potential..."
@@Sarril101 it can live up to its potential, if the devs actually cared about the game lol
🤣🤣🤣
@@Sarril101 i agree xv2 is bullshit one time i lost from a super soul that depletes your stamina if you get hit by a charged ki bomb so basically i got into an infinite combo with that damn ki bomb that melts your stamina and i could not get out oh matter what cause my stamina is constantly getting erased! how the fuck is that balanced i literally was so shocked i forgot to pull out my limit burst 😅 and I was like "what the hell" ehh xv2 wasn't what it once was 2 years ago 😔 like it seems like games at the first 2-3 years are good then they slowly become dog shit
Steedoj: Man Of Culture Vs. Laggy Broken Exploits
Can't wait for Xenoverse 3
And for the game to be broken two days into its release
bwebbuva I hope these people don't migrate over.
Two days is giving it a lot of time.
The cycle shall start all over again, same with the PS4 modders though I’d personally give less than four hours of XV3 dropping of that happening.
Yurp don't forget they might give hit 6 more pure progresses nd make more op broken builds add more characters like full powered broly where u can grab till ur L1 and circle is fucked then maybe u can hit someone thats not even in ur 3v3 lobby nd get kos in another due to the natcode nd maybe a ki cancel that paralizes u for 6 years bcuz they just make stellar improvements every time don't they
@@theneutronstyle9279 I was thinking two minutes
"Breaking News: Local man plays a game, doesn't realize he walked into a cheese factory"
Hes not lactose intolerant thoe
This is why I stopped playing online too many cheep players, and when you think you found a fair player once you win once they wanna get salty and start using cheep moves in the next fight.
Yeah...
That is true, or they just kick you straight away and make a lame excuse like "I only let people have _ amount of matches"
@@brandu07 ha
Yep
I felt so pissed for my friend on his stream when he was about to win, he shot a galick gun at his opponent, and but thanks to great game balancing, his opponent rocket tackled right through it and he lost because of that.
Don't even get me starten on cheap HIT players, especially when it's laggy
“My lag switch is unbeatable!”
@@Pootis-hn3ky i was gonna say that my guy
Nappa feels god tier against hit players these days with kids trying to perfect block arm crash.
I’m not gonna lie I main hit and I gotta say this is correct when I fight other hits and it makes me question my existence
Some of my friends that “main” Hit say that he is not broken and that he is one of the worst characters in the game meanwhile they take away one whole health bar by using one jump time skip.
It’s crazy how people play like this and say they are “good”
Do u get ppl who use female majin give her no stamina and goku blacks super soul ans just spam angry hit
Fr people think they good when they spam
And when they lose regardless of their spam it's either you cheat or insults 😹
@@AlexGonzalez-ys9uc only in Crystal raids
@@aashaahmed6340 French?
It's really sad that this is what the whole game is now.
It makes me sad that if u win against players like these u are “bad” or “tryharding” like u over here spam guarding 💀
Many Achievables It really ruins the PvP part of the game, are these guys even Dragon Ball fans? Because last time I remember the characters didn't just run away and throw eachother. How is that any fun? I seriously want to meet one of these people and find out why the hell they cheese on a 3 year old non-competitive anime game.
@@kyshoo4207 facts lmao
Speak facts
Amen to that
It's unfortunate because even to this day Xenoverse 2 has potential and it's very fun to play with the right people
Ive had a couple of rare instances where in a 4-6 player lobby, no one would cheese and it'd be hard on deciding who would win. I miss that shit
@@JDot124x Exactly, that's what I'm talking about. I think we just need to create groups like that in order for us to keep united or something because the online has become strangely fucked up
The main reason why I stopped playing online was the cheap hit players
Fr I always used to either play with people who spammed grab or cheese to make sure u can’t attack them reset stamina super guard and do it again very fun I really don’t get how it’s TI to them.
My brother first introduced me to xenoverse in 2015 I was so hype because it was a actual
Dragon ball game where you could make ur cac and fight online than when xenoverse 2 and they expanded on the combos I thought online would be the best out there how far we’ve fallen
@@OwnedByBaba oh you fight those ppl that use female majins habe low stamina and use goku blacks super souls break there own stamina and them spam angry hit. i hate those people
@@AlexGonzalez-ys9uc I got you use Punisher shield,Punisher drive, gigantic rage or even perfect blocking will fuck em up if you wanna be mean charge up a evil explosion as it will auto teleaport to you and it also has a broken hitbox you also wanna spam dragon burn,dragon freeze
@@AlexGonzalez-ys9uc The main reason why i use his super soul is BECAUSE of the cheese block spammers and their ki stuns.
I had a fight with a guy that was actually good, and guess what. *HE WAS NEW*
I swear if you didn’t friend him for fucking legit fights...
I meet some people who are new and actually learning well without being influenced by spammers and infinite combos. I would say Im decently new as well but when I started online I went straight to finding supers that went well with my CACs combos. Tho I will admit it is quite tempting not to put finishing blow on every character for that sweet combo continue and break.
He could have bin on xv1
@@silentpheonix1677 the game’s mechanics are different
@@silentpheonix1677 its alot different from 1 and 2
I swear this is main reason I don’t have fun playing online matches sometimes
I know right! Sometimes people fight like there life depends on it
This is why I don't fight randoms anymore. I only fight with friends i made when I did fight randoms.
The solution is to only play with friends, actually sad you need to do that just to have fun in this game
Nah, my friend will actively spam Emperor's Death Beam if I don't constantly wail on him.
@@chaserred4155 That sucks man
My friends barely play against me (most likely because I win a bunch )
Anyone wanna become friends need new people to play against
My friend spammes instent transmission and God fist. I'm going enough to punish he cheapness luckily
Steedoj fighting and talking calm while beating the shit outta players puts fear into the Zeno community
Actually though, HONESTLY though
I’ve been following Steedoj since the DLC with Goku Rose was a hype thing that hadn’t happened yet
Idk how long that is but it’s a while
And I have never heard him this depressed
Ikr he's always cheerful and fun but you can tell this online bs is getting to him
Lol he needs to stop taking it so serious
@@BLAKDANGER you try playing the game and seeing tryhards, cheesers, lagswitchers, hackers and all sorts of other bullshit day in and day out for as long as this game has been out then come back and say that,
Creative Gaming facts this is his daily job I would be stressed too
@@ARCEUS493ZELDA It's a game bro... I just play it with my friends and we have fun
It's funny they play like that but I STILL lose...help my lad!
Why I stopped playing this game. Even when you beat these cheese players prepare for the hate msg them calling you trash and that you use cheese moves when you best them with nothing but skill.
Nah, you normally get kicked for winning.
@@Mosnotmortal question, I use specific moves for cheap players, bending kamehameha, and any kind of counter, is that cheese or is it fair, honestly.?
@@paulgentili1425 if they start cheating or using cheese first, then it's fair game. Anything Goes. The same with double-teaming.
@@paulgentili1425 "Double Buster" is slightly better than bending Kamehameha anyway.
@@Mosnotmortal lol that to
It's like SeeReax has always said in his Keman series.
"Either cheap or cheat"
Um actually it's cheat or cheap!
I expect: Lagskip, Ki Cancelling sweats and one Hit Player...
you want some Fries and a Coke with that?
@@Random1nesss Lol
I'm thinking a person who legit never stops perressing guard
@@dalaro8153 Ah yes, the block spammers!
Dont forget the chance of modder since this is playstation
"It isn't over yet!" It'll be over when Dimps learns how to do a proper fix, but more importantly, STOP PUSHING OUT DLC
The cheap players have indeed ruined the game and this generation
For Example The Spamers
Spaming The Kamehameha
Spaming SPECIALLY DODON RAY
Sometimes Spaming Grabs
@@customarymaniac4002
So sad so sad this game will never change I see
@@kachiedits6231 Also Spaming One Of Bojack's Attacks,Reverse Launcher,Or Something Like That
@@customarymaniac4002
Bruh its shit like that which pisses me off to cuz its always the fun moves that aren't cheap that people always find away to abuse then when u decide to use it yourself people criticize you for it
@@kachiedits6231 I Remember Playing Against a Spamer On The Online Fights
He Picked Buhan,So You Can Imagine How That Went
I love taking a break from the game and coming back to find that everyone plays like an asshole when it was an occasional thing.
Blame the youtubers
@@JackRabbit5402 no, blame the people who are just braindead and only know how to use cheese
Yup . They all complain about it but if they didn't make build videos showing people cheesey presets or glitches in the game that cheesers just take advantage of it wouldn't be as bad as it is 💯💯
Sometimes I would like to find out what type of person is behind the sticks when they play like this.
If I had to guess, it's a middle school teenager who's parents don't mind him yelling at a screen saying everybody's a piece of s###. (no offense to whoever reads this)
@@b5riangtc763 shit it’s mostly true tho
@@dinobutler4564 At least we're on the same page. 👍🏻
@@b5riangtc763 or it’s a complete manchild on the other side of the screen
This is why if you’re not playing with limitations, you should bring out the cheese builds early just in case of people like this.
@@shedontwantme7769 THANK YOU
Tbh I never really
Played with limitations my instincts told me not too
The only time I’ve played is when random people in a lobby want to fight me but other then that I use single lobby’s
That’s all you cheesers say bruh
If there’s one Goku Black would say to the xenoverse cheese community, it’d be:
“It’s unfortunate to see a world so scarred, but the purge is necessary to build a perfect utopia (of actually skilled people)”
I keep running into people who just : (perfect block) (grab) (perfect block) (grab) over and over
Ah yes, Xenoverse cheesers. Fake blast, angry hit, god fist spam out the ass, along with some blockmash just to be sure their ego isn't bruised.
Don't forget the constant attempt to stamina break and ki spam
and spamming the l2 button lol
As well as instances of constant false hits.
@@blyat8832 Or the amazing ways to use go go gum and use God's of destruction anger in 2021.For real,these cheesers are running out of ideas.
@@chuviis3508 even if they are running out of ideas, I have a feeling we will be seeing them for a long time
Cheesers: My lag skip is unbeatable
This happend alot but i do have a fun story from last week i was playing online and i got 1 person in my lobby and he played fair and we ended up playing through every single fight in dbz in a gauntlet it was realy fun this game is super fun with the right people
I wish I could do this, what’s ur psn??
@@jamiesmith4757 oh i dont play on playstation
I was drawing, until i saw this notification, then i saw all the cheese and keep my drawing while vibing to Persona music.
P.S: Good video as always Steed.
this is why people like me stopped playing pvp....
Ive noticed its easier to escape grab moves if u do a regular dash. For some reason when u dash vanish it treats ur hitbox as if its in the place it was last for a moment
Once again Steedoj is teaching us how to play/deal with lag,lagSwitchers,and cheap players on Dragonball Xenoverse2
I remember meeting a cheap guy recently. He was actually fairly decent, easily beating me and my buddy with skill, but the second I beat him one time he switched to a male earthing, ki stun/cancel, XY spam, and using nothing but really good moves.
I myself only use moves I find aesthetically pleasing. If it happens to be relatively good like X10 Kamehameha, it's only because I like how it looks, better example, Raid Blast, awesome move, no damage. Sledgehammer, basic bitch looking move, full health bar of damage
Why do u speak so professionally? 😂 it’s kinda funny
It's just how I speak I'm afraid.
@@wheatknight124 Time spike is the most op move in Xenoverse, when it’s laggy. You are literally incapable of dodging it, it sometimes goes through evasives, limit burst, just unbeatable unless I play timid.
This why I don't let ssgss goku players charge at all.
Yep and if they go kaioken
Fuckin stamina break
I use first preset
0:20. Funny thing I'm one of those people who got xenoverse 2 for Christmas.
Yes! This is the message we need to put out! If only the xenoverse community would heal, then I could have more fun battles
@Riruka22 - Dragonball Ultra Yeah, but they should find a way to have fun without ruining others fun. Like me, I try to play as clean as possible while also thinking about how hard I'm trying. I always think about the other people who are playing, I feel that others should do this as well. Sadly most people are selfish and tend to think not of this
The Good Xenoverse Player VS ThE “GoOd” XeNoVeRsE pLaYeR...
If there isn't already, there should be a new evasive added that is similar to Super Front/Back Jump but meant to SPECIFICALLY counter grab spam. It would be 1 stamina bar, work like Super Jump and can control whether to go forward or back but the trade-off is less range however it can be used to escape grabs. Now obviously it doesn't make you immune to grabs since your stamina will eventually hit zero and people will naturally abuse it beyond just to escape grabs so it could be tweaked to be a bit more balanced. Maybe instead of stamina it would be a super and cost 3 bars of Ki? That way you could charge it and have it more readily available...but then people would spam it... Oh! Or make it a pose that makes you immune to grabs for say...15-20 secs. It's only buff is grab immunity and the trade-off will be that it is the longest pose animation to complete in order to reduce spamming it and it can't be refreshed while already active and has a cool down period of 8 seconds before it can be used again. That's about my best shot. Just my rough draft of an idea because grab cheese is one of the worse, if not the worst. It can't be blocked, takes no resources, has tracking, takes no skill. Players that could definitely win in a fair fight will lose to this, we've all seen it happen.
I dunno know. Just spit balling ideas.
I wish i could be as confident as you when fighting these players, i usually give up easily without putting up a good fight since i don't wanna try against cheap players.
that broly spaming grabs reminds me of when i was playing Grand Chase and 2 Mari spamed grabs on me... ah, good old times of a broken game!
Reminds me of my first online match. Male earthling. Spam. Square + triangle. Pain.
Bruuh is it really like this, I feel for new players man, legit imagine picking up thwt mentality from a game thst you think is really good
This is the first time I am hearing Steedaddy so stressed out because of these cheesy players, I hope you continue taking good care of your mental and emotional health brother, happy New Year
The beginning is exactly how I talk about players
Steedoj should do a xenoverse 2 fighting class to teach people how to fight fr
I lost my first ranked match due to cheese, then lost my second fair and square because my second opponent actually had skill. Thinking about my first match made me realize playing ranked matches isn't worth it.
Hahaha! Felt my soul connect to his at this! 20:26 LOL
I clapped every chesse player i fought i got hate messages after the fights i kick them then they send me a hate message xenoverse 2 daily life for me : D
Same but it makes for good content so ill just put them out in the internet for all to enjoy
Interesting Point of View :)
I often watched steedoj’s videos for it’s gameplay.
I mean the way he masters quite a lot techniques (the old supreme kai is actually giving them as tutorial at the beginning of xv2).
So the point is on the community.
I can’t agree fully for 3 main reasons :
- the first and most important: the game is not flawless and that’s a critic made to the devs.
It’s actually very far from being flawless and there’s quite and issue with crossplay as well. A few flaws : you cannot cancel an ultimate launched after, well watching the anime or reasing the manga it has been done more than once. And sometimes an ultimate acts as an immunity to a full blown strike (especially another ultimate)...
- the second : current era is paid dlc oriented, the issue with it is that the game fully looses its balancing as the time - and money - flows.. the devs and product ownership knows it since they released at least one free dlc... come on be serious for a minute : it was released not only to attract and retain the community but also to reequilibrate the game...
- the third : playable characters in a fighting game should not be a DLC, especially on a franchise such as DB, DBK, DBZ or DBS. That’s why modders got in and then banned. That’s again a critic made to the product ownership not to the community itself. Most elder players will refer to taikenchi and budokai, there’s a lot of good reasons to this. Another famous fighting game made the very same error and got heavily criticized for this reason : look at capcom’s steet fighters’ franchise.
Other issues I noticed or experienced:
- paid dlc is somehow encouraged yet being unfair to baseline xv2 players so the assumed strategy incorporates pay to win
- no need to go to a pvp to understand it, a single online quest shows it, online events shows it perfectly (cheese and cheese gaps are insane)
- connectivity and cross platform play made me wonder on servers and network balancing parity :) I assume that it either unequal or of different quality
- some bugs are easily noticeable even in solo : level cap issue (more than 30 quests won and no lvl up yet there’s room for it)
- ranking itself encourages cheese : mo cheese mo ranks. And we know cheese is sliced over time to get served.
“How cheap players ruin new players experiences”
*Revelant videos from steedoj:*
Bullying noobs will Ultra instinct Goku
I play with 2 guys who hold 3v3's for fun, they don't do cheese and we always wait for our team mates to finish their fight rather than team up, but when we run into players who play cheap like this it's a different story, I'm not the best player nor am I good by any means but those 2 guys I play with remind me that there are still some good players in the community
Steed: I don’t know how to use it properly
Also steed: Uses it near perfectly the first time
It's crazy how broken this game used to be but even now it can be annoying sometimes.
The daily life of a normal xenoverse player
You have the best intro dude
that one dude that spams but says "ez" in the voice chat, or "bot "
This reminds me of Burcol's videos with trash talkers
Low-key Burcol plays kinda cheesey himself.
@@megaplatformer2702 he does?
@@dankgothtrash No, he doesn't, and if he does it's intentional because it fits the theme of the video. People call anyone that uses something more than once or twice ''cheesy''.
I wanted and tried to get into this game, when I was younger I dreamed of playing as a dragon ball character and fighting other people with a custom character, but little did I know....
Now I just play striker, at least you can counter cheese properly in that game. And at least it's not a laggy mess and there's 4 PEOPLE PER TEAM... WTF BANDAI, WHY YOU SLACK ON XENOVERSE SO MUCH. 8 people matches with giant frogs n shit and this game can barely handle someone pushing the x button.
People just doo doo on Bandai but the true enemy is dimps
I was actually considering getting the game for such a long time! I used to have a blast playing with my friends! But after watching enough of your videos, for even what little time I’ve spent watching them, I know my $100+ I’ll spend getting all the DLC would not do anything for my online experience.
Thanks for toughing out this awesome game’s rough community. Sorry you had to put up with things like this for so long. All i cam can can do from where I am is wait and hope things turn for the better. Even if that dream seen out of each, I can still dream of a better Xenoverse timeline!
That was cheesy. But not as cheesy as their play! Aye!
The game is only $9 right now on the store.
@@michaelwest4845 for real?
Steedoj was trying his hardest to put in a ok meme after that broly grab from a mile away😂
Its sad then even at 1k TP, the cheapness level is through the roof, if you're a UA-camr.. then that level increases tenfold because *EXPOSED Videos!*
Too bad Exposed videos went the way of the dodo years ago.
Nah, just *GET AROUND IT, STEED.*
Exactly
In my opinion, I think that the 3 bar Majin has to be one of the bigger offenders out there. I haven't been doing enough online matches to pick something else like those who shoot a ki blast and move away, but 3 bar Majin hurts me a lot considering I like the one I made
I mean... It's not their fault that they are laggy, but the grab thing.. 🤣🤣
That blue Goku at the beginning reminds me of a dude I fought a couple of times. It was laggy and he would indeed spam god fist (why wouldn't he right?) And he brought up meta after me saying there are other moves to use. I know I don't play Xv2 online but if you wanna consider cheese meta sure it's not enjoyable tho lol
I tried xenoverse 1 multiplayer way back when it came out. The random opponent I was given was a custom golden frieza who wouldn't even let me move. 'skill based matchmaking' lul
Xenoverse 1?
@@tsugi.7853 Yes, all the way back then
@@OnlyGetty golden freeza wasn't in xeno 1 were they hacking or something
@@tsugi.7853 dlc 3
@@OnlyGetty you got golden freeza for cac for dlc?
i feel like my brain melted through this
When I played 3 years ago I used a majin character with all melee specials, basically tried to get the longest combos I could. Was ranked top 20 on pc
I never played xenoverse 2 ever sense I deleted it .. one of the best choices in my life.
same here XD the game is a joke lol
About a week ago me and one of my friends were doing 2v2's and I expected it to be fun, which it was until I starting running into modders
Edit: also not being that good at the game also didnt help with the fact I had to fight modders
I played ranked today and get cheesed so hard these players are just a example of how messed up the community has became
I was coming into the community kind of late and cannot even think about having fun playing ranked or even casual matches for fun sake
Why does he have a burcol CAC? 😂
If you've played XV1 in the summer of 2015, all we did was Emporer's Death Beam with Super Vegeta 2's transformation lmao. But this? This is atrocious.
I would say im pretty new and the only things I've really died to so far is like infinite combos. I play the earthling ki build with EDB as my main but I use Saturday crash to setup for EDB or crazy finger finishers. I do love the earthling combos and also love finishing blow combo continues as well as crazy finger continues. Galick gun is my knock back super of choice cuz I keep the purple aesthetic. Cant say im that good though cuz I suck at just guards and z vanishes. I also like majin kaioken strike build. Assault into dragon fist is awesome. Also if I had to pick a non CAC, all I really learned how to play with so far is Videl and Pan. Guess I just got a thing for fast females wit crazy combos.
I was literally crying from the intro😂😭
*Day 1238447 of waiting for Shallot to be announced to Xenoverse*
Oh god
It's gonna take ages, just 'Give Up'
@@brandu07 on god bruh
On god One Piece finna end before this shit happens
@@gintokiisthebestcharacteri7938 yh, probably
Wow xenoverse 2 is still very active. I can’t believe this
I remember when i use kaioken in pvp when the game lauched i had so much fun with my friends
When steedo fights the people burcol fights in the trash talking vidoes XD
I was once in a 2v2, I had the bot as teammate, and they would double team me as soon as they killed the bot and say Im bad at the game. Then when I kill one of them for a 1v1, they use auto revive gauge and double team me again
time skip, evil ray strike, raid blast, brave heat, and block spammers are what i always see when i fight online and its usually when you beat them fairly that they start doing it the following matches
This is the reason why I don't go online and I just play parallel quests
I don't even play Xenoverse 2 PvP. I played like two matches and then just stopped. Mostly because of the lag and delay of my moves and not feeling the PvP.
I've made it a rule for myself to never fight anyone below a 3 bar
Thanks for This vídeo 🖤
This is why I main Jeice, playing OP units that you can spam with just makes you play like that more often.
I never like to cheese, however I am more than happy to do it when the cheese is being done to me
I had XV2 for years now and I've never played pvp, but I think I don't think I will anytime soon.
I still love this game even after almost 4 years of playing this game its insane
ive had this game since 2016, i can say with complete certainty that this community has given up on having fun with the game and refuse to use anything other the cheapest of methods to win the god damn game and it makes so angry
11:18 I'm sorry but that was so funny to me 😂😂
I ran into a guy that kept spamming hit's square super attack in his combo basically putting me in a infinite loop
I remember finally transferring from Xenoverse 1 to Xenoverse 2 after finally getting a PS4 and DBS Broly legit almost made me quit immediately. Luckily my old DBXV1 habits kicked in and I learned to dodge grabs with a step dash instead of a step vanish.
DBXV1 and DBXV2 feel like completely different games, but you can use some DBXV1 habits to handle cheap tricks better, such as staying on the ground and spamming jump hits on God Fist spammers.
I’m new here but that intro was fuxking sick
Nice Burcol cameo.