I hated the Baroness when she had that conversation with Maria--but felt bad for her when the Captain broke up with her. She so gracefully accepted defeat, tears welling in her eyes but she was even trying to be humorous. She was also really in love with him too.
The production was so incredibly lucky to have the marvelous talent of Eleanor Parker! If you read about her history in acting, she is legendary status. Every scene she is in, she lends herself to creating the eloquence and affluence of the time period, with such professionalism, complete mastery in her performance. It seems all of the emphasis is on the Plummer/Andrews relationship, but she is simply outstanding. I think she took the entire movie up a notch as a top billing, seasoned actress.
Eleanor Parker was a true beauty and what a great actress, those wonderful side glances. Her wardrobe was fantastic, such beautiful outfits. Thanks for uploading this, and great song choice
Eleanor played the part of the rich girl and dressed like an outdated old fashion lady. Loved her red dress but it didn't buy her love. She did a good job acting her part as the baroness only interested in the Captain and she finally exited graciously
@@lornarichardson5655Her clothes were all designed by Christion Dior fashion house for the movie, very fashionable for that time period, and would not have been considered old-fashioned. Her character as a wealthy baroness she would have been able to afford such luxury clothes. Eleanor Parker wore the outfits exceedingly well.
Elsa wasn't in love with Georg anyway, or I don't think she was. Sometimes she even seems like she could be half in love with Max, although most of the time they are probably just friends. Elsa is not really the bad guy but I don't think she ever has been more than just mildly disappointed that things didn't work out between her and Georg. It's not like what they had together (that we know of) was exactly any big romance or anything anyway. More like a marriage of convenience arranged by her. The same was probably at least approximately true of the actual people in real life too.
The video I never knew I needed but oh my gosh, it was perfect ❤️ There are so many moments in other films/shows where I wish people would pick up on these supporting roles and how much they matter.
Eleanor Parker the best for me in the movie, and one of the most beautiful actresses of all time, why she is not remembered in any of the Sounds of Music tributes? ....did they get along with Julie?
She was so classy. Think about it how many women would date a Man with Seven Children then has to deal with the fact that he's in love with The Governess. Then she sees how she fawns over him when he sings Edeilweiss. Then she "upstages" the Baroness at a party for her. She did one admirable thing, she loved him enough to give him up and she helped Georg Von Trapp come out of his shell after his Five Year Mourning for his Wife.
Well she did try to trick/guilt Maria into running away at the party ( at least that is how I read the scene) but I agree when it was obvious this was more than an infatuation with Maria the baroness left with class
She was still so in love with Georg she was fighting for him. Maybe what she did to Maria was mean but it was like saying "Hey Girl! You Best Keep Your Hands Off Of My Man!" Also Maria "knew" that Elsa was going to be potentially Georg's New Wife.
Oh absolutely! When I saw the Documentary on A & E, I was blown away. She only Married the Real Life Georg Von Trapp so she could give the children some stability. The Money he "had" actually came from the Fortunes of his First Wife that he lost. Their Home was a Boarding House for several years. The biggest mistake that Maria made was giving up The Book Rights because when The Sound Of Music became successful she and her family didn't make a dime. Same thing with Grace Metalious with Peyton Place and The Beatles & Rolling Stones who signed their Music Catalogue without realizing it from 1964-1970.
@@yvonnecamacho8793 When I was a kid I couldn't understand why West Side Story and The Sound Of Music's opening sequence was so similar and now I know why. It was done by Robert Wise who did both Movies.
I just can’t stop watching the scenes of Maria and the caption the most touching screens it breakers me up that I cry love the seane so much I wish it was me !
littleguinea, Thank you for this :) When I was little, like everyone else seeing it as a kid, Disney did their standard to "teach" us who to root for using plot & dialogue. Unfortunately the intricacies of grown-up romance went totally over my head. I cringed every time the gazebo scene with The Captain & Maria came on, and worse, I wound up equating Elsa with the Nazis. The character actually showed zero signs of collaborating, but that's how the whole hero / villain thing works in the mind of a child when seeing a movie like this. Now that I am much much older ;) I have seen this movie so many times I have lost count. No way is Elsa a Secret Nazi in my eyes; in fact, I bet she would have stood right by the Captain no matter what. And I can totally appreciate how graciously the character handled her situation as the unintended third wheel who is tossed over for a younger lover. I also became an adult neither wanting to raise, nor even liking, children, and loving the opportunity to earn & manage my own money... so we have a bit of a mutual thing there, hah! Elsa was beautiful, sophisticated, impeccably coiffed & dressed (my mom taught me how to sew very early, and as a sophomore in college I went to great pains to make a copy of that lavender dress she wears when playing ball with the kids!), but best of all she was polite and did not roll over lightly. But the bottom line is Eleanor Parker should have won a best supporting Oscar for her performance in this movie simply by virtue of all the nuance and believability she brought to it. TSOM won for Best Picture (no surprise there!) and Peggy Wood (Mother Superior) was nominated for Best Supporting, but lost to Shelly Winters. To anyone who doubts, do yourself a favor: the next time you watch it, pay attention to Parker very carefully whenever Elsa is on screen. She reacts honestly to every single moment, and does most of that with a quiet dignity.
Elsa has never really seemed heartbroken. Unless she (the character) is an even more talented actress than the actress, she only liked him as a friend in the first place. She did not act like she was in love with him when she was engaged to him. There are many stories, books, movies, etc. that *do* express unrequited love while watching the person you're in love with fall in love with someone else. This isn't one of them.
I think people are really just missing the fact that *a lot* of books, plays and movies have an engagement that did not work out because the people in question simply were not in love. She wasn't genuinely in love with him either. I highly doubt that she ever thought she was, but *if* she thought she was, she found out that she was mistaken. The rest of it is an interesting fanfic idea but not much more.
Christopher Plummer said (jokingly) that he very nearly threw Julie away for Eleanor Parker. I think he was a bit infatuated with her, as was Roger Moore when they co-started in Interrupted Melody. I think Eleanor was very beautiful inside and out and I can’t imagine anyone else playing the Baroness.
I would probably have thought that the Baroness Elsa was mostly just a plot device, if I didn't know that she's actually loosely based on the real-life Princess Elsa, who never gave any sign of ever being in love with the Captain either. Also. A huge, HUGE part of the point of the movie is that Elsa does not love the children. If she really loved him all that much then she would have to love his children too. Even if she is not "good with kids". Maria, who of course *is* good with kids but much *more* good with *those* kids, falls in love with the children first. When you have seen Georg and Maria captivate each other's hearts and Elsa treat him like she is at best just being polite to him for the sake of appearances and has no real desire to be with him (unless she is hiding it very, very well), and furthermore she treats his children like they just barely exist when a large part of the reason he thought he should remarry was probably so the kids could have a mother and she is in no way, shape or form their new mother or even their real friend...how on earth can any of you possibly think that there is or ever was anything very real between her and Georg? There's just not. Oh, there probably was a bit of basic physical attraction for a while, but that's not the same thing.
The kids don't want her for a mother or they don't appear to, and no, it's *not only* because they already fell in love with Maria first and don't want anyone else. It's most likely because Elsa's actually...not very motherly, or at least, not with them. She really just isn't meant to be part of their family. Period. And I think she knows that too, if she really thinks about it.
Sorry, I forgot, the original name of the actual princess was Yvonne, not Elsa. In case anybody cares. Anyway. It seems that in 2009 someone made a British radio play about "the woman Captain von Trapp jilted to marry Maria" so apparently there are more who see it that way than I knew of. I'm pretty sure that in both the stage *and* screen versions of The Sound of Music, Georg and Elsa do indicate to each other that it just wouldn't work between them anyway, with or without Maria. Elsa seems to be a lot more "when in Rome do as the Romans do" about the Nazis, for one thing. Except that this isn't Rome. Or even Germany. This is Austria, or, it *was* Austria before the Nazis took over. Elsa doesn't seem like she cares about that kind of thing nearly as much. Maria cares more more freedom and besides she was willing to go wherever Georg was going anyway. Elsa and Georg would have split up the instant things got to the point where he could not, in good conscience, remain in Austria any longer. She had no intention of leaving, nor would she have been willing to give up everything and go with him because she just did not love him that way or that much. So it's as well they already separated before that time came. Maria and Georg were always much more "our futures are tied together no matter what happens" and Elsa was always much more "we were just hanging out together for fun". She doesn't belong with him. Maria does. Elsa, being no dummy, can easily see that. It isn't permanent between him and her (Elsa) anyway. They *could* maybe have lived together permanently *if* the overall situation had...happened to be more convenient for both parties. That's not the same thing. If Elsa had had her way, the kids would have gone to boarding schools and Georg would have gone to work for the Nazis. (A lot of others did. She would presumably have said, why should you be any different.) Maria is better for the Trapp family, partly because what she really wants the most is for the family to be together. I'm inclined also to say that Maria is more brave, kind, caring, loyal, true, good-natured, good-tempered, good-hearted and able to be cheerful in adversity than Elsa ever was or ever will be. But it just *might* be that perhaps Elsa *could* be all of those things *if* she were with a different person. One who's more...suitable for her, let's just say. Elsa is nice sometimes in her way, but I cannot possibly imagine her climbing over the mountains with seven children to escape from the Nazis. I can't even imagine her going hiking or camping. She would probably wonder where the champagne and caviar were. Don't you think? Whatever she and Georg had together (for a little while) it was definitely *not* true love.
As far as this whole "Maria took Elsa's place and she's not happy about it" thing. I think she might feel that way for a very short time. Like about five or ten or fifteen minutes. She did *not* make some sort of supreme sacrifice or something and she is *not* breaking her heart over this for the rest of her life. She might be a little bit unhappy for a little while but I'm sure she will easily enough comfort herself with a pug dog or a mink coat or a diamond necklace or some such sort of thing. I'm not saying she's just shallow and rich. There's probably more to her than that. I'm saying that she was and is NOT in love with him. Period. She knows that too. You can tell if you're paying enough attention. Reading between just a few lines occasionally is all it really takes.
You know who also got their heart broken. Chino from West Side Story. Maria Bernardo's Sister was bought to America to marry him but when she saw Tony it was all over before it began.
She didn't go to America, she was *brought* to America? Didn't have much of a say in her own life, did she? And if her parents had let her have that, Chino's heartache would have been avoided.
Elsa did bail didn't she. she wasn't blind. she saw what was going to happen between Georg and Maria. you could clearly see he didn't want to marry Elsa. why would he when his children absolutely love Maria.
I didn't like the Baroness. Eleanor Parker played the role beautifully. The Baroness seemed to be in it for her own gain. Manipulating Maria from the scene was wrong of her. Knowing the Captain loved Maria, she should have accepted it. I loved the way the Baroness smiled when the Captain looked at her whilst singing Edelweiss
🎵I’m right over here why can’t you see me? 🎶🎼Because he is obviously blind and so are most men. I would say 99.9% are anyways. So it’s really no big surprise or shock to say the least. In fact, in my book this is an awaited experience that is being ghosted by mostly everyone! 😉 That’s life!!!!
Nunca gostei da Baronesa,papel desempenhado de maneira memoravel pela atriz Eleanor Parker. Ela só queria Status,não gostava das criança,tanto que pensava em coloca-las num internato.👍
![love me like you do [georg x maria]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/Z500c5KCjuU/mqdefault.jpg)
I loved this song set to her, it is just perfect
Credit where credit is due: Classy and no fool. And a sense of humor. I speak of the character, which Eleanor Parker did magnificently.
I hated the Baroness when she had that conversation with Maria--but felt bad for her when the Captain broke up with her. She so gracefully accepted defeat, tears welling in her eyes but she was even trying to be humorous. She was also really in love with him too.
Poor Elsa :(
Eleanor Parker was a great actress and a wonderfully charming lady, RIP ❤️
The production was so incredibly lucky to have the marvelous talent of Eleanor Parker! If you read about her history in acting, she is legendary status. Every scene she is in, she lends herself to creating the eloquence and affluence of the time period, with such professionalism, complete mastery in her performance. It seems all of the emphasis is on the Plummer/Andrews relationship, but she is simply outstanding. I think she took the entire movie up a notch as a top billing, seasoned actress.
Eleanor played her part as the rich lady but never had a chance with the young Maria being so enchanting. and the kids adored her.
Eleanor Parker was a true beauty and what a great actress, those wonderful side glances. Her wardrobe was fantastic, such beautiful outfits. Thanks for uploading this, and great song choice
Eleanor played the part of the rich girl and dressed like an outdated old fashion lady. Loved her red dress but it didn't buy her love. She did a good job acting her part as the baroness only interested in the Captain and she finally exited graciously
@@lornarichardson5655Her clothes were all designed by Christion Dior fashion house for the movie, very fashionable for that time period, and would not have been considered old-fashioned. Her character as a wealthy baroness she would have been able to afford such luxury clothes. Eleanor Parker wore the outfits exceedingly well.
I love Julie Andrews, her acting, singing, personality & beauty and I admire Eleanor Parker's beauty, grace & acting as well.
She did the right thing in the end
This was a great movie and it still is the best.
I keep having flash backs of this video with two great super stars at
There best performance touches me deeply !
He loved Maria so much 🥰🥰❤❤
nicely done :)
And Eleanor Parker's acting was superb. All those little glances spoke volumes.
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Yes did you know she was in Return to Peyton Place as well
I love this movie I watch it every day and brings tears to my eyes what love can do to you when you care for someone and love truly love that person !
As a HUGE Sound of Music fan I am pleasantly surprised by this great tribute. I think you absolutely did Elsa justice. Thank you!
Elsa was a good actress and proved money didn't mean she could buy love. Most of her dresses made her look so much older and boring
Elsa wasn't in love with Georg anyway, or I don't think she was.
Sometimes she even seems like she could be half in love with Max, although most of the time they are probably just friends.
Elsa is not really the bad guy but I don't think she ever has been more than just mildly disappointed that things didn't work out between her and Georg. It's not like what they had together (that we know of) was exactly any big romance or anything anyway. More like a marriage of convenience arranged by her.
The same was probably at least approximately true of the actual people in real life too.
Yes she did do the right thing.
When one’s in love one wants it to be mutually.
That is true love.
The video I never knew I needed but oh my gosh, it was perfect ❤️ There are so many moments in other films/shows where I wish people would pick up on these supporting roles and how much they matter.
Makeup Love Thank you 😊
2:20-2:30 is perfectly matched. My heart broke.
I read your comment, then watched the video, got to 2:30...now I’m crying
You’re right omg 😭
Eleanor Parker the best for me in the movie, and one of the most beautiful actresses of all time, why she is not remembered in any of the Sounds of Music tributes? ....did they get along with Julie?
Great job!!!
Wow she was gorgeous.
She was so classy. Think about it how many women would date a Man with Seven Children then has to deal with the fact that he's in love with The Governess. Then she sees how she fawns over him when he sings Edeilweiss. Then she "upstages" the Baroness at a party for her. She did one admirable thing, she loved him enough to give him up and she helped Georg Von Trapp come out of his shell after his Five Year Mourning for his Wife.
Well she did try to trick/guilt Maria into running away at the party ( at least that is how I read the scene) but I agree when it was obvious this was more than an infatuation with Maria the baroness left with class
She was still so in love with Georg she was fighting for him. Maybe what she did to Maria was mean but it was like saying "Hey Girl! You Best Keep Your Hands Off Of My Man!" Also Maria "knew" that Elsa was going to be potentially Georg's New Wife.
Oh absolutely! When I saw the Documentary on A & E, I was blown away. She only Married the Real Life Georg Von Trapp so she could give the children some stability. The Money he "had" actually came from the Fortunes of his First Wife that he lost. Their Home was a Boarding House for several years. The biggest mistake that Maria made was giving up The Book Rights because when The Sound Of Music became successful she and her family didn't make a dime. Same thing with Grace Metalious with Peyton Place and The Beatles & Rolling Stones who signed their Music Catalogue without realizing it from 1964-1970.
@@yvonnecamacho8793 When I was a kid I couldn't understand why West Side Story and The Sound Of Music's opening sequence was so similar and now I know why. It was done by Robert Wise who did both Movies.
didnt she say she was going to send all the kids off to boarding school?
I just can’t stop watching the scenes of Maria and the caption the most touching screens it breakers me up that I cry love the seane so much I wish it was me !
littleguinea, Thank you for this :)
When I was little, like everyone else seeing it as a kid, Disney did their standard to "teach" us who to root for using plot & dialogue. Unfortunately the intricacies of grown-up romance went totally over my head. I cringed every time the gazebo scene with The Captain & Maria came on, and worse, I wound up equating Elsa with the Nazis. The character actually showed zero signs of collaborating, but that's how the whole hero / villain thing works in the mind of a child when seeing a movie like this.
Now that I am much much older ;) I have seen this movie so many times I have lost count. No way is Elsa a Secret Nazi in my eyes; in fact, I bet she would have stood right by the Captain no matter what. And I can totally appreciate how graciously the character handled her situation as the unintended third wheel who is tossed over for a younger lover. I also became an adult neither wanting to raise, nor even liking, children, and loving the opportunity to earn & manage my own money... so we have a bit of a mutual thing there, hah!
Elsa was beautiful, sophisticated, impeccably coiffed & dressed (my mom taught me how to sew very early, and as a sophomore in college I went to great pains to make a copy of that lavender dress she wears when playing ball with the kids!), but best of all she was polite and did not roll over lightly. But the bottom line is Eleanor Parker should have won a best supporting Oscar for her performance in this movie simply by virtue of all the nuance and believability she brought to it. TSOM won for Best Picture (no surprise there!) and Peggy Wood (Mother Superior) was nominated for Best Supporting, but lost to Shelly Winters.
To anyone who doubts, do yourself a favor: the next time you watch it, pay attention to Parker very carefully whenever Elsa is on screen. She reacts honestly to every single moment, and does most of that with a quiet dignity.
Thanks for this! Appreciated the baroness more in my last rewatch of SOM 😊
Elsa has never really seemed heartbroken. Unless she (the character) is an even more talented actress than the actress, she only liked him as a friend in the first place.
She did not act like she was in love with him when she was engaged to him.
There are many stories, books, movies, etc. that *do* express unrequited love while watching the person you're in love with fall in love with someone else.
This isn't one of them.
I think people are really just missing the fact that *a lot* of books, plays and movies have an engagement that did not work out because the people in question simply were not in love.
She wasn't genuinely in love with him either.
I highly doubt that she ever thought she was, but *if* she thought she was, she found out that she was mistaken.
The rest of it is an interesting fanfic idea but not much more.
this was very lovely, thanks for making and sharing
In terms of beauty, she was right there with Tippi Hedren and Grace Kelly in my book.
Christopher Plummer said (jokingly) that he very nearly threw Julie away for Eleanor Parker. I think he was a bit infatuated with her, as was Roger Moore when they co-started in Interrupted Melody. I think Eleanor was very beautiful inside and out and I can’t imagine anyone else playing the Baroness.
my heart breaks
I would probably have thought that the Baroness Elsa was mostly just a plot device, if I didn't know that she's actually loosely based on the real-life Princess Elsa, who never gave any sign of ever being in love with the Captain either.
Also. A huge, HUGE part of the point of the movie is that Elsa does not love the children.
If she really loved him all that much then she would have to love his children too. Even if she is not "good with kids".
Maria, who of course *is* good with kids but much *more* good with *those* kids, falls in love with the children first.
When you have seen Georg and Maria captivate each other's hearts and Elsa treat him like she is at best just being polite to him for the sake of appearances and has no real desire to be with him (unless she is hiding it very, very well), and furthermore she treats his children like they just barely exist when a large part of the reason he thought he should remarry was probably so the kids could have a mother and she is in no way, shape or form their new mother or even their real friend...how on earth can any of you possibly think that there is or ever was anything very real between her and Georg?
There's just not.
Oh, there probably was a bit of basic physical attraction for a while, but that's not the same thing.
The kids don't want her for a mother or they don't appear to, and no, it's *not only* because they already fell in love with Maria first and don't want anyone else.
It's most likely because Elsa's actually...not very motherly, or at least, not with them.
She really just isn't meant to be part of their family.
Period.
And I think she knows that too, if she really thinks about it.
Sorry, I forgot, the original name of the actual princess was Yvonne, not Elsa.
In case anybody cares.
Anyway. It seems that in 2009 someone made a British radio play about "the woman Captain von Trapp jilted to marry Maria" so apparently there are more who see it that way than I knew of.
I'm pretty sure that in both the stage *and* screen versions of The Sound of Music, Georg and Elsa do indicate to each other that it just wouldn't work between them anyway, with or without Maria.
Elsa seems to be a lot more "when in Rome do as the Romans do" about the Nazis, for one thing.
Except that this isn't Rome. Or even Germany. This is Austria, or, it *was* Austria before the Nazis took over.
Elsa doesn't seem like she cares about that kind of thing nearly as much.
Maria cares more more freedom and besides she was willing to go wherever Georg was going anyway.
Elsa and Georg would have split up the instant things got to the point where he could not, in good conscience, remain in Austria any longer.
She had no intention of leaving, nor would she have been willing to give up everything and go with him because she just did not love him that way or that much.
So it's as well they already separated before that time came.
Maria and Georg were always much more "our futures are tied together no matter what happens" and Elsa was always much more "we were just hanging out together for fun". She doesn't belong with him. Maria does. Elsa, being no dummy, can easily see that. It isn't permanent between him and her (Elsa) anyway. They *could* maybe have lived together permanently *if* the overall situation had...happened to be more convenient for both parties. That's not the same thing.
If Elsa had had her way, the kids would have gone to boarding schools and Georg would have gone to work for the Nazis. (A lot of others did. She would presumably have said, why should you be any different.)
Maria is better for the Trapp family, partly because what she really wants the most is for the family to be together.
I'm inclined also to say that Maria is more brave, kind, caring, loyal, true, good-natured, good-tempered, good-hearted and able to be cheerful in adversity than Elsa ever was or ever will be.
But it just *might* be that perhaps Elsa *could* be all of those things *if* she were with a different person. One who's more...suitable for her, let's just say.
Elsa is nice sometimes in her way, but I cannot possibly imagine her climbing over the mountains with seven children to escape from the Nazis.
I can't even imagine her going hiking or camping.
She would probably wonder where the champagne and caviar were.
Don't you think?
Whatever she and Georg had together (for a little while) it was definitely *not* true love.
As far as this whole "Maria took Elsa's place and she's not happy about it" thing.
I think she might feel that way for a very short time.
Like about five or ten or fifteen minutes.
She did *not* make some sort of supreme sacrifice or something and she is *not* breaking her heart over this for the rest of her life.
She might be a little bit unhappy for a little while but I'm sure she will easily enough comfort herself with a pug dog or a mink coat or a diamond necklace or some such sort of thing.
I'm not saying she's just shallow and rich. There's probably more to her than that.
I'm saying that she was and is NOT in love with him. Period.
She knows that too. You can tell if you're paying enough attention. Reading between just a few lines occasionally is all it really takes.
I love this
You know who also got their heart broken. Chino from West Side Story. Maria Bernardo's Sister was bought to America to marry him but when she saw Tony it was all over before it began.
She didn't go to America, she was *brought* to America? Didn't have much of a say in her own life, did she? And if her parents had let her have that, Chino's heartache would have been avoided.
Elsa did bail didn't she. she wasn't blind. she saw what was going to happen between Georg and Maria. you could clearly see he didn't want to marry Elsa. why would he when his children absolutely love Maria.
bellissimo
this is so good
I can relate
I like it!
Maybe she did have a little class after all!
Мария была влюблена капитана и он тоже а баронесса просто хотела выйти замуж он был богат. Но дети его не приняли.
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I didn't like the Baroness. Eleanor Parker played the role beautifully. The Baroness seemed to be in it for her own gain. Manipulating Maria from the scene was wrong of her. Knowing the Captain loved Maria, she should have accepted it. I loved the way the Baroness smiled when the Captain looked at her whilst singing Edelweiss
Mi amor te necesito hoy tanto como siempre Bill Gates❤️
🎵I’m right over here why can’t you see me? 🎶🎼Because he is obviously blind and so are most men. I would say 99.9% are anyways. So it’s really no big surprise or shock to say the least. In fact, in my book this is an awaited experience that is being ghosted by mostly everyone! 😉 That’s life!!!!
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Who sings this version ??
The easier solution to the situation is poligamy
Nunca gostei da Baronesa,papel desempenhado de maneira memoravel pela atriz Eleanor Parker. Ela só queria Status,não gostava das criança,tanto que pensava em coloca-las num internato.👍
I kinda felt bad for the baroness ,
who sang this song
Liana
Who sings this song?
Is it Robin?
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