+1, although I did once watch Harry Potter dubbed in Flemish, because I figured that would be hilarious. It was, but to my surprise it was also REALLY well done. Those Belgians know how to dub!
@@rikakemme it doesn't have to do with how good dubbing is. It has to do with how simulair the languages sound. Like for example French is a really fast language. If a French dubbing actor is dubbing in French and the Englisch actor is speaking in Englisch. The French actor might already be done with talking while the Englisch actor is still talking. And I don't understand it. Why dubbing if you can also put subtitles. I mean for children younger that 9 I get it. But they watch mostly cartoons and by cartoons it doesn't matter. But for older people. Why? I mean even for people with dyslexia you can do that.
I don't think it's not knowing about fashion labels, just not really caring. Pretty sure everyone in my circle knows of the big brands, we just can't be bothered to pay €€€ for the label itself. Not very materialistic.
Johan NL it is. Girls are dressed like peasants and they dont even style their hair or do makeup. They think its “too extra” to even put a lipstick on or wear high heels or a dress.
Well I've seen a lot of young girls in very expensive clothes and with expensive belts, jackets and even handbags... So there are dutch girls that buy expensive bags.
I think the reason why people drive so safely is because we have really strict driving exams. When you overtake on the right at your driving exam, you will immediately fail the exam!
I always thought it was too strict but when coming to South Korea and seeing people violate simple traffic rules all the time.. well.. let's just say I became really thankful that the driving exams are so strict.
I Hate the smoking outside in public too...I am just very grateful you can't smoke inside restaurants and bars anymore...that was a thing 10 years ago...🤢...
Femke Van Wageningen and now we see it return a bit...for example at festivals...smoking inside the festivaltent big signs with non smoking but people don’t seem to care about other people any more...
@@tubie33 on the flipside: I've had experiences where people smoked in their own places (and strangely enough also in their shops, it was a tattoo shop btw) where they went on to smoke outside after asking if I was ok with it (or if I mentioned I didn't like it, but I don't care, important thing is the artist took my opinion and health in consideration).
@@akruijff aaah thats why i ask everyone of my guests if they have a problem with the fact that i smoke and regularly would go inside my own freaking garden to smoke because i never ask, i just smoke. God i hate people who state something as a fact even tho their statement is pulled out of their ass.
Maybe it's just the group I'm in but I think that generally a lot of us (particularly young people) think that brand name clothes and bags are a waste of money and make you seem kinda shallow because you don't buy them because you like them but to show off that you can afford them. I think finding something cheaper but unique and really good looking is valued more.
I havent seen any dutch wear something unique. Can you enlighten me on that please? Literally everyone wears boring pants and shirts. Girls are like boys. Whats so unique and cheap?
Işılsu Keleş and why look us girls in the netherlands as boys Because if I look around I just see a lot of girls and if so you can wear whatever you want
Ilse Sehlhoff its not about wearing what you want. Ofc people can wear what they want. Generally dutch don’t put much effort into what they wear. Girls wear black yoga pants or jeans in every occasion. Even to weddings. Girls in my school don’t even style their hair or do slight makeup. They wear the same things everyday. Just like a boy. And they walk like boys and talk like boys.
Işılsu Keleş is that a problem? NO. And people don’t wear yoga pants to weddings. I also don’t wear the same thing to school everyday. I actually do straighten my hair very often. But I don’t wear make up, why is wearing no make up bad? I actually think if you don’t put on make up you’re prettier
You can just say we re not that stylish haha! Most Dutch girls DO know all the high end brands, but we are not willing to pay that much for just the name haha
@@thomaskuipers the boys are even less interested! Very few actually wear high end brands. But it does depend on where you live. In big cities like Amsterdam it may be more 'normal', but in the smaller cities and villages 'doe maar normaal'
@@gezelligheid5079 nope expensive does not equal style, you can be very stylish with low budget. Its just that most Dutch don't care about style that much compared to many other countries like the US or Middle east or South European
Eva Albers I love to spend more on a bag than an entire vacation because I can afford to do both because I work my ass off for it. You get what you work for hun.
@@saltybrunette6974 blahblahblah.... Show of....nobody likes a show of. Ohhh look at me....I can do all that because I work my ass off. I make more than enough money as well but still will not pay 800 euro's for a stupid branded bag. But you go right ahead and throw that money away
The "how" on the smoking subject; my point of view as a Dutchie myself; I think it is the "live and let live" attitude we have here. If it ain't on someone's private property, you do as you please and it gets tolerated. Although non smokers are silently disturbed by it, they won't speak out because you don't supose to tell others how to live their lives. And that is a non spoken rule in The Netherlands: "the live and let live"-rule. We are known about given our opinions blunt to everyone but we will never point someone out about their lifestyle. That is considered rude and arrogant. I know, it does not make sense for a foreigner... we do tell you right in your face how awful your haircut is but if you wish to blow smoke in our faces at the busstop, we suffer in silence..
Wrong... Yesterday I asked a person to stop smoking underneath me bedroomwindow. I asked him in a normal tone of voice and he did what I asked him to do. There was no problem. If you say or ask it in a normal calm way most people will not make a fuss about it. Most smokers will try to not bother us with their smoking but unfortunately lots of them don't give shit about the lungs of others.
I hate cigarette smoke too, but the difference between the US and the Netherlands isn't that big. According to the WHO in 2015 it was 24.8% in the Netherlands versus 17.2% in the US. Perhaps it's just that people in the US don't smoke in public places as much, which we could really use here too.
I'm asthmatic so yeah I feel you with the smoke thing. I always cough overdramatic when someone smokes around me :(( your dutch is pretty good! it's difficult but your pronunciation is definitely getting better.
"cancer sticks" haha. No but I really dislike the smoking as well. Especially when they do it in front of an entrance. You're not dramatic about it, it's disgusting
These are the nicotine junkies. Other people enjoy a good cigar, they don't need the nicotine, and will 'smoke' (enjoy is a better word) a cigar when they like. Once a week for instance. It's a pity that this group isn't recognized as a different group.
I know, i just wanted to point out that most people tend to put everyone in the same corner. I don't like cigarettes too and pity the addicted, but most people forget thst there is another group that just want to enjoy their cigar. Like the government, this guy Paul Blokhuis says he wants healthier young people and wants to change everything, like packages and advertising. Even the beautiful boxes of Cuban cigars (which are only bought by grown ups who make their own choices, and not by teenagers) will have generic packaging when his fundamental group will have the power. I fear for women's rights too when his party would be bigger, but that is another story.
Also, here you can get a compliment if you look nice with a cheap outfit. Like 'omg, you managed to put that together for only $79? amazing!'. Yeah you can be the pleb that spends $2000 on Mastermind Japan jeans, but for $40 I can find a pair that's equally comfortable, and after purchase my wallet is still comfortable. I can buy an amazing computer for the value of a gucci handbag. So I got my lady a gaming PC so we can play together. And she will keep using her Kipling bag.
I think Dutch people are more price/value aware and we make it a challenge to look "well dressed" and after a compliment feel pride or even tell your friend shameless you bought it discounted/ at Zeeman/WIBRA etc.. and last longer, than an equal "fashion brand" :D. But hey, I went on holiday, bought new computer etc, because I saved smart! THAT is typical Dutch.
Hahaha "an hour, wow that's a road trip, let's pack some lunch".... I'm from Belgium but lived in Canada for a couple of months while studying, I remember explaining my Canadian friends that an hour drive is far in Belgian standards by saying if it's like a 40min+ ride we'd probably stack up on snacks and drinks to survive the long ride!
Even though smoking in the Netherlands may be quite bad, I never really noticed it because when you go to the south of Europe, literally EVERYBODY smokes.
omg you’re totally right about the smoking. I live in Eindhoven and i dont know if you’ve ever been on the Markt (it’s a square with loads of terraces) but you just breathe smoke there on sunny days instead of oxygen.
I love the fact that we use subtitels instead of voice overs. Voice overs/dubbing makes me feel so uncomfortable ugh In the Netherlands we only dub Kids Tv show's/movies. It was so weird e to watch nickelodeon shows like victorious, Icarly etc. in English😂
I love that you love the Netherlands so much. I am Dutch and i have never seen Holland, in the way that you describe it. I didn't think twice about following the rules. Like you said: it's very normal in here. I am more schocked that it isn't the norm, to follow rules, in the states. I also think it's funny that you don't think, the grocery stores are chaotic haha. The more kind of UA-cam "filmpjes" i watch about the Netherlands, about how friendly and strict on time they are, the more I do love my country.
There is one big rule in the USA that we don't follow in the Netherlands; politeness. When you wait for something, like the bus, or for ordering food etc. people in the US check who is before them or ask who is last in line. In NL we don't do that, we ignore others to try to be the first. That is one of our worst habits.
@@Harry_PP030 Well lot of people do ask or wait politely, but it really depends on the person and the places you are. But if you don't you are still considered a rude person, and some people will actually say it too.
@@marlena. Hi Marlena, off course. Best example i have is when we came back on Schiphol Airport, and waited for the bus to the parking area for our car. The rudeness of other Dutch tourists trying to get in the bus before the first people who were waiting made me longing for how they do it in the US.
About the smoking part. I'm from Greece and here 1/3 of population smokes and despite the fact that is against the law to smoke indoors everybody smoke inside. Not inside every shop , but in coffee shops , bars and clubs they do.
I made the mistake of seeing one of those hobbit movies on in a dutch movie theatre. Everything was fine until the "monsters" had their own language and the subtitles (of course) was in dutch...
Hah, yeah, that can happen. Especially with big budget films. If there’s like a few little subtitles and/or they don’t have any money to spend, they’ll just have the existing text on screen beside the subtitles. But elvish/dwarven/sith/whatever is a problem.
@brands: It's costomary to give children "kleedgeld" (clothing allowance) next to pocket money when they get to the age they want to buy their own clothes. Mine had 75 euro's a month each. That means you have to choose as a teenager between saving two months for designer shoes or jeans, or search for really nice clothes every month. It teaches the value of money, but also an awareness that it is possible to be cool in designer cloths but also in alternative choices....
Maybe you can do a video about American stereotypes? Like an are they true or not type of thing. I've never been to the States, but American culture, from what I understand can be so different, but maybe you can educate some people about what it's really like to grow up in the states. Idk about anyone else, but I'd definitely watch that video. (This one I also liked of course xxx)
Yeah for example, do Americans even cook anymore?? Like they seem to have so much take out or they eat out. Then again, there is like no middle ground, either they are ultra healthy home cook people or just pizza every day people it seems like lol
Like in the Netherlands there are much regional differences. In Manhattan it is cheaper to eat outside than renting some extra space for a kitchen. And videos about american habits that are strange or weird to outsiders get a lot of comments like 'let them stay there' or 'i dont need them here'. Like, when you go out for dinner, be aware that they chare more than what's on the menu. You will have to tip 20% extra, otherwise the waitress can't feed her children, and they add acouple of % tax to the bill. But go there, it's beautiful, and people are very nice.
Okay, so I copied this comment from another video I already posted it at that talked about subtitling as well, but it touches upon a point you made about how subtitling is probably why most of us speak a fair amount of English. I'd say that the fact that we subtitle rather than dub over most of our tv shows and movies (also computer programs, video games, etc., though I think those are more commonly left in their original language in other parts of the world as well) contributes a great deal to Dutch multilingualism. Perhaps even more so than mandatory English classes in school in fact. Which we of course also have. I'm aware it does depend on the individual and I certainly know my share of Dutch people who really had to work on their English in school. English always came easily to me however, even though I'm certainly no language whiz. I did also take German and French throughout high school (or the Dutch equivalent thereof anyway) and had a mighty struggle with it. Just not so much with English. As a result, I can fairly say that I barely learned any English in school, since anything they were teaching in school, I already picked up from television, or movies, or (a bit later) the internet. In fact, since it isn't just American television or movies that are broadcast in their original language, but also British ones and perhaps the occasional Australian show, or something of that ilk, us Dutchies might actually have a broader comprehension of English than a lot of, well... Americans. I have more than once, for example, found myself amused reading reviews by American viewers of British shows or movies, where the reviewer complained about the show/movie being hard to understand because of the British phrasing and accents, whereas I had no problem following it at all. For the record, I am Dutch born and raised, with two Dutch parents and four Dutch grandparents (I never knew any of my great-grandparents, but as far as I know they were also all Dutch) and have never even visited any English speaking territory. Speaks volumes about the merits of subtitling, doesn't it?
I fully agree with everything. Some foreign friends of mine were worried about going to the cinema here aswell, They were shocked when they found out most films are in English 😂
Are you from Belgium? Since Cineman is a word used in Flanders and UK. I've never heard a Dutch English speaker say it in English, most say the movies or theater when they mean bioscoop in English.
Dutch Gamer i am dutch born and raised and say cinema too to be honest because it actually is a cinema in my opinion i would say theater for a musical like and actual theater
@@dutchgamer842 Nope I'm from the Netherlands. Really? That's rather odd to me. Everyone around me uses the word cinema since that's what they taught us in school.
Theatre is for a play, theater is where movies are shown. In Dutch it would be theater for a play and bioscoop for a movie. In modern Dutch used in the Netherlands isn't commonly used only in Belgian versions of Dutch
If smoking is that annoying to you, then don't go to eastern and southern regions in europe. I personally don't really care if people smoke, but that may also be because of growing up in the Netherlands.
Smoking is something that belongs in 1500, not 2019. It is bad for your own health, 2nd hand smoking. Its good for nothing. It should have been banned long time ago and its ridicilous people still find smoking normal and do not care.
I hope that smoking outside on "het terras" stays. Inside of a Cafe or a club it's already prohibited, which I think is a good thing. I smoke shag and when it was still allowed to smoke inside, I would have irritated eyes of all the smoke at the end of the evening. Outside they should make a smoking and a no smoking area on "het terras", that way everybody is happy.
In New York it is against the law to smoke outside and in most places. They start to be more strict here as well. This year it is not allowed in most play grounds and swimming pools
I don't know why a lot of Dutch people smoke either. A lot of people around me smoke and I am like please stop smoking. At school, we even have lessons about smoking being bad. And people still smoke.
Have you been to a doctor yet in NL? I'd love to hear your comparison of Dutch vs. American doctors. I've been to docs in both places and there are some things the Dutch docs do that I think most Americans wouldn't understand or put up with. USA="here is your prescription for antibiotics, that should do the job!" NL="go home rest and take paracetamol. Come back in a week if it hasn't gotten better!"
I have been to both and I agree there are definitely aspects of Dutch healthcare that could be implemented into the U.S. However, it’s been a shock for me that there isn’t as much focus on prevention. In the U.S. I got my first Pap smear at 21 and in the Netherlands it’s at 30. You also get them done less frequently. That’s just one example but I think maybe the Dutch system could work on it a bit...just a thought 👍🏻
@@mlboreoface You can get those earlier if you want can't you? Genuine question here. But can't your home doctor help you with that? (For those confused who are not aware. In the Netherlands, you have a "Huis Arts" which is your a physician that is your primary doctor. The person you go to first and who is fully aware of all your personal needs. If you need an assignment at the hospital, it will usually go through them. And they are kept aware of what's going on with you, having all your papers and everything.)
Maddie Broderick there’s a lot of focus on prevention, but it’s more evidence based 5han in the us. The thing about all tests is, they have both a false negative rate and a false positive rate. Even a small false positive rate of 1% (that’s tiny, it’s often 10%) is a really big problem if, say, you’re testing a million people at large of a population of 21 year olds who you’re expecting to have the cancer maybe 0.01% of the time. Yes, you catch a hundred people with cancer slightly early - but you also catch 10.000 people who you have to tell they have cancer, but after multiple invasive further tests - each with their own medical risk! - you eventually determine don’t have cancer. In most cases, you should only be testing people where you already suspect something is wrong. A test had to be really good in both false pos and neg rate *and* the population in question has to have a pretty high likelihood of having the problem for it to be a net gain to do mass testing. Hence why you don’t get mammograms - or prostate exams - starting at 16 (in either country). The US has a general tendency to overtest. Or at least, that’s how the medical establishment over here sees it. One could speculate that with how much medical anything in the US costs (with large profits included), there’s a fairly major incentive to overtest.
@@JasperJanssen Not only because of the costs but also because doctors can be sued to the point of getting bankrupt if in the end that one test wasn't done that gives the answer and the person died or has permanent issues due to it. We can sue here, but it's way less fruitful and you can't sue over an unperformed test.
In the city I live (Arnhem) people do know the brands and many people wear them, but as you said; the people that wear those brands are also the people that dress nicely every day while the people from smaller towns and the "asociale" people keep with the cheaper more down-to-earth fashion
the reason that many dutch films have subtitles and no voice-over is that the technique was very expensive in the past. the Netherlands is a small country and has too small market for it to take direct costs out of it. nowadays these techniques are much cheaper, but because the Dutch are so used to it, films are still released with subtitles
Omg I hate cigarette smoke too. Like hellooo I didn't come to this terrasje to be killed with your pack of cancer. If people want to smoke, thats fine, but just dont do it in public spaces. I go to college in Rotterdam and they are trying to ban the smokers at the entrance/exit door. It kinda helps but not really, but hey, its a start. Also, as a dutch person I have never noticed that we are so efficient and organized but now you're saying...
I hate it when people smoke when you're just trying to eat outside at a restaurant. I think most people agree that it's rude behaviour but I do think some restaurants putting trays outside are just asking for people to do it. It really shouldn't be a thing. Most people don't want to be rude to the smoker and confront them but really I think we should start actually confronting them. "I'm sorry, I'm inhaling your smoke and would like to eat my dinner." or whatever. Of course there's a ton of smokers who don't know or act like they don't know how awful it is for a non-smoker to be near someone smoking.
@@TheEtueify that is really a great idea actually. Often I am too shy to confront them myself but i do want to enjoy my food/drink ofcourse . We all should do it!
Ronald de Rooij ik haat de homo’s niet. Zij haten mij heel duidelijk. en inderdaad leven en laten leven. als dit een reactie is op mijn comment.. kom lekker in mijn woning wonen en praat over tolerantie. Ik hoef mezelf niet te laten vergiftigen. Ik moet mijn sleutelgaten en kieren afplakken om de rooklucht niet door mijn hele huis te laten trekken.. Het is een hel! Ik heb met hen geprobeerd afspraken te maken waar zij zich niet aan willen houden. Zij hebben 2 overdekte balkons en ze moeten per se onder mijn slaapkamer roken.. ik moet alles vacuüm afsluiten of ik wordt wakker midden in de nacht (4uur) in een bruine kroeg.. maar ik ben intolerant?. Dit is voor hen leven en voor mij mijn dood! Ronald ik ben helemaal voor tolerantie maar ik ben ook voor communicatie en rekening houden met andere mensen.
@@ronaldderooij1774 Dat is factueel incorrect. Intolerantie tegen homos en buitenlanders kan het begin zijn van discriminatie (afhankelijk van hoe die mensen zich gedragen). Maar ik zie niet in hoe dat te maken heeft met intolerantie voor roken. Van roken is bekend dat het je gezondheid schaadt, en dit geld evengoed voor meeroken, wat dezelfde effecten kan hebben (wat in de gevallen hier geen eigen keuze was, en dat eigenlijk nooit echt is). Ik vind niet dat ik tolerant hoef te zijn voor gedrag dat niet alleen mijn gezondheid schaadt, maar waarvan ik op het moment zelf benauwd word. Het gaat niet om de personen per se, maar om hun gedrag. In de 70s was nog lang zo veel niet bekend over alle gezondseffecten van roken, dus zeggen dat mensen die het niet tolereren omdat ze het smerig vinden en misschien wel gestopt zijn uit gezondheidsoverwegingen vind ik disrespectvol en het klinkt bijna als het ontkennen van feiten. Ik ben het ermee eens dat zeggen dat ergens homos wonen en dan zeggen dat er niet mee te praten valt het laat klinken alsof dat door hun sexualiteit komt, terwijl dat er geen ene ruk mee te maken heeft. Maar tolerantie gaat twee kanten op he. Als de ene persoon jouw mening en gezondheid niet tolereert (respecteren vind ik dat hier het minimum zou moeten zijn, niet alleen maar tolereren) vind ik dat even goed slecht. Het laat je niet onpopulair lijken in mijn ogen, meer alsof je niet alle moderne kennis weet/accepteert.
@@ronaldderooij1774Leven en laten leven? Ik kon 20 jaar geleden als kleuter nauwelijks in restaurantjes eten, omdat ik astma-aanvallen kreeg van de rook. Nu kan dat gelukkig wel, binnen. Maar de terrassen en ongeveer alle drukke openbare plekken zijn nog altijd hel. Vaak roken mensen op de fiets en als ik erachter fiets, word ik alweer benauwd. Ik wil ook leven. Ook lekker op terassen zitten.
I think if you have expensive cars, bags or clothes in the Netherlands (especially outside of the big cities) people often see you as pretentious, arrogant or a show off (a lot of the times also just plain jealousy) while in America people applaud you for making that much money. The expensive items are more of a way of showing the world how good you are doing in life. In my opinion we could learn a lot from each other! Dutchies have a way of shaming people that show their wealth.
I think for teenagers the brands of your clothes do matter. A few years ago all I wanted to wear was Hilfiger, A&F, Kenzo.. etc. (I went to highschool with like 2300 other students and most of them were also wearing brands only.) As I am a bit older now, my parents give me 'kleedgeld' (monthly allowance for clothing) and I really got to learn the value of money. I think many people would like to buy a designer something, but just think it's to expensive in comparison to the satisfaction you get in return. They'd prefer to buy two intire outfits for the same amount of money (but I'm pretty sure that's also due to the Dutch mentality).
I'm also grossed out by smoking, luckily there are more and more bans for cigarettes. In the cities it's still pretty crazy with the smokers, but in Drenthe 20% of the people smoke which is the highest of all provinces. It probably has to do with the amount of elderly people as well here :^) in France it was worse from my experience
Honestly what i‘ve experienced with smoking is the the pressure of a group or family that people start by that and because most grew up in The Netherlands with so many people around them smoking we (or i) almost never notice it anymore
It shocked me that alot of people think an hour is long. It takes an hour to go from Venlo too Zeeland & my husband wants to spend the night every time we go. Like no, driving that long is no big deal! We leave early, we leavr late. Its a while day.
Very nice video, I enjoyed watching it as a Dutch guy. I think we take/need a lot more driving lessons for being able to pass the exam than what you need to pass the exam in the US.
We do know designer brands but don't like to flash it in ones face. And most of us (like me) are too down to earth indeed to spend too much money on something like a bag which will be fashionable for about a year. But yes we like to look good and clean.
I reckon most of the younger generation recognizes LV or DG or Gucci logos... it’s just that we know (particularly if it’s a big ticket item like a purse or shoes or whatever) that you either overpaid or got a fake, and we’re not so into that.
Smoking is getting less and less i think because when i was a teen i started smoking because everybody did it...And then you become addicted to it..Smoking is an addiction. But back then (i am almost 44) it was the thing to do..It was cool. I quit smoking 4 years ago. So i do not (yet) mind the smoke on terrasjes because i get it. I get why people smoke. Also years ago you could smoke inside restaurants but now you can't anymore and you have to go outside..So in the winter everybody is fine with you standing outside but in the summer when you do sit outside (terrasje) then everybody screams bloody murder..I don't think that is ok..There should be space for smokers outside and non smokers and if you do not like it, go inside the restaurant it has been made smoke free for non smokers..Besides living in a big city like Amsterdam is not that healthy, air wise. I went to a country last year Macedonie ( i think it is called something else now) and i am telling you if you hate the amount of people here you should see it in that country..Everybody smokes..even inside a restaurant, it is everywhere. Why people (start to) smoke? Good question, i really do not know. But it becomes an addiction.. For me, i don't like alcohol (alcoholic mother)..I hate what it can do to people when they overuse the stuff. It is also unhealthy to drink alcohol but nobody cares about it. Some people can become such assholes when they drink or even very violent or very loud. Not my thing at all..Sure, you can drink a glass, but it is still not healthy to do that, even if it's "just" 1 glass. So that is for me the: I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY part.
let me put a few things into perspectives: smoking is generally seen as a nuisance as well, so much to the point that smokers aren't allowed to smoke inside most (public) buildings/areas and ONLY outside or on specific smokers zones in open areas (you'll see these at the treinstation for example). this is why you'll see a lot of people flock together smoking, making it seem a lot of people smoke. this way smokers can finish each other off with mee-roken :) the silver lining to this is that it gives people reason to make some contact and time to socialise while smoking. as for wearing brand things, you need to understand that within the netherlands, everyone is equal, and by that i really mean, EVERYONE is equal and you will indirectly learn that you don't have more value than somebody else does just because you have more money to spend. this is also why people are very casual, friendly, blunt, but accepting of/to everyone. this reflects back to their spending on clothing as well. this doesn't mean that people here aren't stylish or fashionable, but funnily enough, just like in most places of the world, people will buy brand things if it's heavily discounted, so people are definitely money-conscious of their spending. part of it is also seeing value in owning something, you'll definitely see a lot of people owning expensive smartphones for example, as it's now considered to be a crucial part of their daily lives.
maid , but why does it have to be an expensive smartphone? They all do essentially the same thing. Has an expensive smartphone become the new status symbol?
Think smoking kills less than obesity, but that's not important. Yes I'm a smoker, but I'm not an asshole. I only smoke at home, even if it doesn't hurt the health, I just can't imagine anybody wants to smell my smoke.
Smokers are anti social people for sure. It belongs in 1500, not in 2019. We now know it has zero, yes zero good sides. Only bad sides for yourself and for others around you. Even when doing it in home. It is what ''tokkies'' would do, as we say it in NL. Its just disgusting and so bad. Unbelievable it is still not bad in 2019.....
I was in Arizona a while ago and I was shocked because how little people smoked. It's also not even allowed to smoke near an entrance of restaurants and such. I don't smoke myself and I don't like it either, but I guess I'm just used to seeing it everywhere because I grew up in the Netherlands.
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Most of my friends only smoke when they drink, because they like the combination. But yeah I don’t know why it’s a thing here, I also feel people start pretty young
I get the smoking problem, I absolutely hate is as well. Only in the Netherlands you re not allowed to smoke in public buildings. I notice abroad people smoke in cafes etc. people here in the Netherlands can’t smoke inside so you see them smoking outside. I think that’s part of the reason it looks like a lot of people do it..
In regards to the smoking thing, the government is working against that. Smoking inside cafés used to be allowed. Now it's illegal, except maybe in licenced smoking cafés.
Style and good taste aren't about brands. By craving for branded goods you're enabling other people to make a lot of money at your expense (literally).
designer stuff is big in the Randstad which is Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Utrecht and The Hague ands everything between(urban areas). So pretty much people from the city. Living inside the randstad is an entire different way of life then outside of the randstad.
Biggest dreamer ugh. Yes, the mindless buying of Gucci plakkaatjes, expensive sneakers, Phillipe Plein. All that crap. It’s like Dutch chavs. But then there’s the girls that wore uggs for ten years, and those are everywhere lol. There’s also that preppy style, with the Gaastra and Scotch and Soda. Kinda basic if you ask me.
Everywhere in de Randstad shits crazyyyyy with big labels. But mostly teenagers. We actually have very expensive Dutch brands that everyone wears so u might not know them
One thing I don't get in America is how it works with when you can drive a car. Like, in al these high school movies you see all these teenagers drive a car. How is that? Do they all already have a license at the age of sixteen? Could someone please explain this to me?
You're right about the smoking, but that's not just in The Netherlands. I think here it's even less than many other countries in Europe. I've been to Switzerland a few years ago and they were smoking all over. The moment they got out of the train everybody started smoking. I'm glad it's getting better here though, but it takes time. At many places it's more and more forbidden to smoke on the terrass but yeah, it's still done.
True, a lot of European countries also have open cigarette machines, where you just put some money in and you'll get new cigarettes, something you will never see in NL. The cigarette prices in NL are also way higher than in any other European country (that iv'e been in atleast).
About the smoking, when I was young (1980) during a birthday party of a parent or family member it was normal to have a big glass at the table filled with cigarettes ! And all my uncles and aunts continuously take cigarettes from the glass and simply fill the whole room with a cloud of smoke. Also at school, my teachers were always busy "rolling" cigarettes so they could smoke during the breaks between classes. Personally I have never smoked. I hate the smell it creates from someones mouth , I even hate the smell in my clothes after I have stand next to someone smoking for 2 minutes. And you're right about the subtitles ! It worked the other way around for me, I've learned English from tv shows like "The A-team" , "The Dukes of Hazzard" , "Knightrider" indeed by reading the subtitles and hearing the English.
Im from the Netherlands and i think the smoking problem is bc dutch people dont like change. They dont want to change anything. As soon as the government says “the cigarettes are getting more expensive” every dutch person will get mad and smoke even more.
I had my dutch (his parents were dutch) canadian uncle over for a visit and we went to Zeeland from Brabant. I brought some drinks and a snack because roadtrip lol and he thought it was pretty funny that I thought of it like that.
I don't like it when people smoke, I've noticed that it has been getting less but it still happens. Also you can overtake on the right if the other car signals that its going left.
About the smoking: only in Amsterdam people smoke so much. In other cities it is different and most of the time you are not allowed to smoke in café's.
What was your first experience like, with the 4th of may 8 o'clock silence for remembering those fallen in war, throughout the whole of The Netherlands? And concerning the smoking, having more people do it makes it harder to get rid off it. Politically and legally the manufacturer wins all the battles up until now. People really try to do something about it. On the street you life and let life as long as you can evade it.
In a previous video you mentioned that in the US people work a LOT more hours than here in Europe. One of the side effects of that is less possibilities and desire to acquire expensive goods when cheaper equivalents are available. Also we don’t like to display our wealth (or lack thereof :). You may have noticed that talking about income/wages here is a big taboo, where it seems to be openly discussed in the US.
Smoking is more normal because people start at a young age, because you can smoke while you're underage. besides that, you can smoke almost everywhere and yeah
Alright.. so my theory on the 'nice driving' has also to do with the way things are so well organized around here. There is actually not much choice but to drive according to the rules (although.. trust me.. there are still a LOT of A**holes and Sunday-drivers as well): We have no space to be disorganized! (haha imagine putting a family of 10 ppl in the cupboard underneath the stairs) Holland (like u said) is a very tiny country. And there are a LOT of people here (There's 500 ppl per square km).. if we want to keep things pleasant, we have to stick by the rules.. AND be tolerant towards each other. I remember when (more than 20 years ago now) Holland was famous for its tolerance.. but that's faded big time now.. everyone is complaining about everything.. everyone's toes are so long that u can barely thread anywhere anymore (look @ intolerance towards smokers these days.. :) without someone complaining they feel offended. Also.. the organization is not always a blessing. At times it can be very suffocating as well. I remember I went to Bali as well when I was young.. I was there for 3 months and another few months Australia.. when it was time for me to go home, I was quite alright.. It'd be nice to see all my friends and family again. But the minute we flew over Holland.. and I saw all the neat rows of houses.. perfectly organized with the neat little streets and a car parked by every house.. it just felt like a huge hand slowly squeezed all the breath out of me.. I got all choked up and started bawling my eyes out until I hyperventilated hahaha Panic attack Trust me.. if this is what you've known for all your life.. it can feel like a true liberation to be somewhere where not everything is organized.. there is space and place for things to grow and be creative. And yeah 2000€ for a name on a bag... lol.. it even sounds silly already!!
I understand the designer bag thing, but in The Netherlands we’re very careful with our money, and we do have designer outlet stores and designer stores in Amsterdam, but we’re not going to buy a bag for €500 of more, for us that is a waste of money, but some girls (also myself) do have some designer bags, so not all girls don’t have designer things x
Totally with you on the Smoking. I'm living in Hilversum by the way and I really dislike it when I'm always placed in the position like I'm moaning, for example when the weather is nice and it's nice to be outside at a restaurant or café and everybody is literally blowing smoke in my face! I can see that disappearing over the next decade, the trend is there already and I know it's gonna happen someday that smoking is seen as totally uncool. I was pleasantly surprised about this in Sweden, where literally nobody smokes any more.
Dutch people do know brands, they're just too conscious on how they spend their hard earned cash. A 2000 euro bag, is just not worth it.
Jennifer OMG jaaaaaa
Jepppp
And we tend to go for the functionality and practicallity of things instead of the" status" it would bring.
Waarheid!
Doe maar normaal, dan doe je al gek genoeg.
Calvinistische soberheid is nog steeds terug te vinden in onze cultuur :)
Actually most people truly hate it when movies and/or TV shows are dubbed into Dutch.
The old serie of " Pipi Langkous" were soooo bad
Mandy Bisseling meneer Nilsson en Tommy en Annika willen een woordje met je spreken.
Dubbed movies ALWAYS suck. But in The Netherlands most movies have subtitles comparing to French, Germany our Spain. Wich is good.
+1, although I did once watch Harry Potter dubbed in Flemish, because I figured that would be hilarious. It was, but to my surprise it was also REALLY well done. Those Belgians know how to dub!
@@rikakemme it doesn't have to do with how good dubbing is. It has to do with how simulair the languages sound. Like for example French is a really fast language. If a French dubbing actor is dubbing in French and the Englisch actor is speaking in Englisch. The French actor might already be done with talking while the Englisch actor is still talking. And I don't understand it. Why dubbing if you can also put subtitles. I mean for children younger that 9 I get it. But they watch mostly cartoons and by cartoons it doesn't matter. But for older people. Why? I mean even for people with dyslexia you can do that.
I don't think it's not knowing about fashion labels, just not really caring. Pretty sure everyone in my circle knows of the big brands, we just can't be bothered to pay €€€ for the label itself. Not very materialistic.
They cant be bothered to take care of their appearance either. Girls here dress like men and they dont even bother looking slight bit feminine.
@@saltybrunette6974 Lol you are talking about Turkey i think? Not about NL at least.
Johan NL no? Im talking about the netherlands.
@@saltybrunette6974 What you described is nothing like NL
Johan NL it is. Girls are dressed like peasants and they dont even style their hair or do makeup. They think its “too extra” to even put a lipstick on or wear high heels or a dress.
lol no Dutch girl in her right mind, is ever going to pay about 800 euro's or more for a bag. We like nice things, but we're also realistic about it.
I don't understand. Why would anyone spend all that money on a bag when you could use it for a vacation or NGO?
Well I've seen a lot of young girls in very expensive clothes and with expensive belts, jackets and even handbags... So there are dutch girls that buy expensive bags.
Anna133199 why not do both???
@@saltybrunette6974 You can only spend each euro once. Less bags = more vacation. 😁
Anna133199 Do higher paying jobs🤗 you gain what you work for.
Be careful... driving 1 hour long in Nederland could also lead you in a totally different country.
or in the ocean 🤣🤣
I think the reason why people drive so safely is because we have really strict driving exams. When you overtake on the right at your driving exam, you will immediately fail the exam!
I always thought it was too strict but when coming to South Korea and seeing people violate simple traffic rules all the time.. well.. let's just say I became really thankful that the driving exams are so strict.
I think if you overtake on the right during a driving exam you should be glad your instructor does not try to murder you on the spot.
Lol that has nothing to do with the driving exam but with driving rules.... You can not simply overtake where and whenever you like.
“An hour, that’s a road trip, let’s pack some lunch!” Omg so true!!! I lauged really loud. 😂❤️
Your Dutch seems to come along very nicely after only a year. Well done!
I Hate the smoking outside in public too...I am just very grateful you can't smoke inside restaurants and bars anymore...that was a thing 10 years ago...🤢...
It was a thing 5 years ago, I think its awfull that we took so long.
Femke Van Wageningen and now we see it return a bit...for example at festivals...smoking inside the festivaltent big signs with non smoking but people don’t seem to care about other people any more...
@@tubie33 Smokers never asked if they could smoke, they just smoked it. That is why the rules came but the rules are not enforced as they should.
@@tubie33 on the flipside: I've had experiences where people smoked in their own places (and strangely enough also in their shops, it was a tattoo shop btw) where they went on to smoke outside after asking if I was ok with it (or if I mentioned I didn't like it, but I don't care, important thing is the artist took my opinion and health in consideration).
@@akruijff aaah thats why i ask everyone of my guests if they have a problem with the fact that i smoke and regularly would go inside my own freaking garden to smoke because i never ask, i just smoke. God i hate people who state something as a fact even tho their statement is pulled out of their ass.
Maybe it's just the group I'm in but I think that generally a lot of us (particularly young people) think that brand name clothes and bags are a waste of money and make you seem kinda shallow because you don't buy them because you like them but to show off that you can afford them. I think finding something cheaper but unique and really good looking is valued more.
I havent seen any dutch wear something unique. Can you enlighten me on that please? Literally everyone wears boring pants and shirts. Girls are like boys. Whats so unique and cheap?
Işılsu Keleş and why look us girls in the netherlands as boys Because if I look around I just see a lot of girls and if so you can wear whatever you want
Ilse Sehlhoff its not about wearing what you want. Ofc people can wear what they want. Generally dutch don’t put much effort into what they wear. Girls wear black yoga pants or jeans in every occasion. Even to weddings. Girls in my school don’t even style their hair or do slight makeup. They wear the same things everyday. Just like a boy. And they walk like boys and talk like boys.
Işılsu Keleş is that a problem? NO. And people don’t wear yoga pants to weddings. I also don’t wear the same thing to school everyday. I actually do straighten my hair very often. But I don’t wear make up, why is wearing no make up bad? I actually think if you don’t put on make up you’re prettier
isabel w exactly that
You can just say we re not that stylish haha! Most Dutch girls DO know all the high end brands, but we are not willing to pay that much for just the name haha
Nadia Juliette Just the girls?
@@thomaskuipers the boys are even less interested! Very few actually wear high end brands. But it does depend on where you live. In big cities like Amsterdam it may be more 'normal', but in the smaller cities and villages 'doe maar normaal'
Nadia Juliette expensive = stylish. ???
Didn’t know not haven expensive brands means that you’re not stylish
@@gezelligheid5079 nope expensive does not equal style, you can be very stylish with low budget. Its just that most Dutch don't care about style that much compared to many other countries like the US or Middle east or South European
That's why people living in the netherland a qwuality of life not always thinking about style but they know how to use style better then others 😉
Yeah I'm definitely not spending more on a bag than an entire vacation! :) The smoking outside is really annoying indeed
Eva Albers I love to spend more on a bag than an entire vacation because I can afford to do both because I work my ass off for it. You get what you work for hun.
@@saltybrunette6974 blahblahblah.... Show of....nobody likes a show of. Ohhh look at me....I can do all that because I work my ass off. I make more than enough money as well but still will not pay 800 euro's for a stupid branded bag. But you go right ahead and throw that money away
Moeilijk doen om buiten roken... lollllll
The "how" on the smoking subject; my point of view as a Dutchie myself; I think it is the "live and let live" attitude we have here. If it ain't on someone's private property, you do as you please and it gets tolerated.
Although non smokers are silently disturbed by it, they won't speak out because you don't supose to tell others how to live their lives. And that is a non spoken rule in The Netherlands: "the live and let live"-rule.
We are known about given our opinions blunt to everyone but we will never point someone out about their lifestyle. That is considered rude and arrogant.
I know, it does not make sense for a foreigner... we do tell you right in your face how awful your haircut is but if you wish to blow smoke in our faces at the busstop, we suffer in silence..
Wrong... Yesterday I asked a person to stop smoking underneath me bedroomwindow. I asked him in a normal tone of voice and he did what I asked him to do. There was no problem. If you say or ask it in a normal calm way most people will not make a fuss about it. Most smokers will try to not bother us with their smoking but unfortunately lots of them don't give shit about the lungs of others.
Very true. And don't comment on the attitude of people in another country. You don't have to live here if you don't like it.
I hate cigarette smoke too, but the difference between the US and the Netherlands isn't that big. According to the WHO in 2015 it was 24.8% in the Netherlands versus 17.2% in the US. Perhaps it's just that people in the US don't smoke in public places as much, which we could really use here too.
Your dutch is getting so good!! Its a really hard language to learn, you can be proud of yourself :)
Het is niet zo moeilijk. Ik ben ook Amerikaans en ik Nederlands leer. :-)
@R R Dan is het moeilijker dan ik dacht. :-D
Amy van Vondelen how a language who is very similar to English and German can be that hard? (Living in the NL btw)
Yes it is difficult but no if this is in a year or longer it is not THAT good lol....
@@Johan91NL ik vind van wel 😊👍
I'm asthmatic so yeah I feel you with the smoke thing. I always cough overdramatic when someone smokes around me :(( your dutch is pretty good! it's difficult but your pronunciation is definitely getting better.
"cancer sticks" haha.
No but I really dislike the smoking as well. Especially when they do it in front of an entrance. You're not dramatic about it, it's disgusting
These are the nicotine junkies. Other people enjoy a good cigar, they don't need the nicotine, and will 'smoke' (enjoy is a better word) a cigar when they like. Once a week for instance. It's a pity that this group isn't recognized as a different group.
@@Harry_PP030 maybe, but I meant the people that smoke every day. And trust me, at least where I live, there are a lot
I know, i just wanted to point out that most people tend to put everyone in the same corner. I don't like cigarettes too and pity the addicted, but most people forget thst there is another group that just want to enjoy their cigar. Like the government, this guy Paul Blokhuis says he wants healthier young people and wants to change everything, like packages and advertising. Even the beautiful boxes of Cuban cigars (which are only bought by grown ups who make their own choices, and not by teenagers) will have generic packaging when his fundamental group will have the power. I fear for women's rights too when his party would be bigger, but that is another story.
Look at your own behavior. How much do you drive? How much do you fly? That's destroying this planet. Not smoking.
I go to the Nederlands on holidays twice a year I speak very good Dutch for a foreigner and I love the People and Country
Also, here you can get a compliment if you look nice with a cheap outfit. Like 'omg, you managed to put that together for only $79? amazing!'. Yeah you can be the pleb that spends $2000 on Mastermind Japan jeans, but for $40 I can find a pair that's equally comfortable, and after purchase my wallet is still comfortable. I can buy an amazing computer for the value of a gucci handbag. So I got my lady a gaming PC so we can play together. And she will keep using her Kipling bag.
I think Dutch people are more price/value aware and we make it a challenge to look "well dressed" and after a compliment feel pride or even tell your friend shameless you bought it discounted/ at Zeeman/WIBRA etc.. and last longer, than an equal "fashion brand" :D. But hey, I went on holiday, bought new computer etc, because I saved smart! THAT is typical Dutch.
Hahaha "an hour, wow that's a road trip, let's pack some lunch".... I'm from Belgium but lived in Canada for a couple of months while studying, I remember explaining my Canadian friends that an hour drive is far in Belgian standards by saying if it's like a 40min+ ride we'd probably stack up on snacks and drinks to survive the long ride!
Even though smoking in the Netherlands may be quite bad, I never really noticed it because when you go to the south of Europe, literally EVERYBODY smokes.
A bag doesn't make the lady.
omg you’re totally right about the smoking. I live in Eindhoven and i dont know if you’ve ever been on the Markt (it’s a square with loads of terraces) but you just breathe smoke there on sunny days instead of oxygen.
I love the fact that we use subtitels instead of voice overs. Voice overs/dubbing makes me feel so uncomfortable ugh
In the Netherlands we only dub Kids Tv show's/movies. It was so weird e to watch nickelodeon shows like victorious, Icarly etc. in English😂
I love that you love the Netherlands so much. I am Dutch and i have never seen Holland, in the way that you describe it.
I didn't think twice about following the rules. Like you said: it's very normal in here. I am more schocked that it isn't the norm, to follow rules, in the states.
I also think it's funny that you don't think, the grocery stores are chaotic haha.
The more kind of UA-cam "filmpjes" i watch about the Netherlands, about how friendly and strict on time they are, the more I do love my country.
There is one big rule in the USA that we don't follow in the Netherlands; politeness. When you wait for something, like the bus, or for ordering food etc. people in the US check who is before them or ask who is last in line. In NL we don't do that, we ignore others to try to be the first. That is one of our worst habits.
@@Harry_PP030 Well lot of people do ask or wait politely, but it really depends on the person and the places you are. But if you don't you are still considered a rude person, and some people will actually say it too.
@@marlena. Hi Marlena, off course. Best example i have is when we came back on Schiphol Airport, and waited for the bus to the parking area for our car. The rudeness of other Dutch tourists trying to get in the bus before the first people who were waiting made me longing for how they do it in the US.
I just have a feeling that 90% of the people watching this are dutch😂.
Almost everyone I would say
About the smoking part. I'm from Greece and here 1/3 of population smokes and despite the fact that is against the law to smoke indoors everybody smoke inside. Not inside every shop , but in coffee shops , bars and clubs they do.
I made the mistake of seeing one of those hobbit movies on in a dutch movie theatre. Everything was fine until the "monsters" had their own language and the subtitles (of course) was in dutch...
Hah, yeah, that can happen. Especially with big budget films. If there’s like a few little subtitles and/or they don’t have any money to spend, they’ll just have the existing text on screen beside the subtitles. But elvish/dwarven/sith/whatever is a problem.
@brands: It's costomary to give children "kleedgeld" (clothing allowance) next to pocket money when they get to the age they want to buy their own clothes. Mine had 75 euro's a month each. That means you have to choose as a teenager between saving two months for designer shoes or jeans, or search for really nice clothes every month. It teaches the value of money, but also an awareness that it is possible to be cool in designer cloths but also in alternative choices....
normally when americans try to say something in dutch i have to really adjust to understand it.
yours was fine
Maybe you can do a video about American stereotypes? Like an are they true or not type of thing. I've never been to the States, but American culture, from what I understand can be so different, but maybe you can educate some people about what it's really like to grow up in the states. Idk about anyone else, but I'd definitely watch that video.
(This one I also liked of course xxx)
Yeah for example, do Americans even cook anymore?? Like they seem to have so much take out or they eat out.
Then again, there is like no middle ground, either they are ultra healthy home cook people or just pizza every day people it seems like lol
Like in the Netherlands there are much regional differences. In Manhattan it is cheaper to eat outside than renting some extra space for a kitchen. And videos about american habits that are strange or weird to outsiders get a lot of comments like 'let them stay there' or 'i dont need them here'. Like, when you go out for dinner, be aware that they chare more than what's on the menu. You will have to tip 20% extra, otherwise the waitress can't feed her children, and they add acouple of % tax to the bill. But go there, it's beautiful, and people are very nice.
Okay, so I copied this comment from another video I already posted it at that talked about subtitling as well, but it touches upon a point you made about how subtitling is probably why most of us speak a fair amount of English.
I'd say that the fact that we subtitle rather than dub over most of our tv shows and movies (also computer programs, video games, etc., though I think those are more commonly left in their original language in other parts of the world as well) contributes a great deal to Dutch multilingualism. Perhaps even more so than mandatory English classes in school in fact.
Which we of course also have.
I'm aware it does depend on the individual and I certainly know my share of Dutch people who really had to work on their English in school. English always came easily to me however, even though I'm certainly no language whiz. I did also take German and French throughout high school (or the Dutch equivalent thereof anyway) and had a mighty struggle with it. Just not so much with English. As a result, I can fairly say that I barely learned any English in school, since anything they were teaching in school, I already picked up from television, or movies, or (a bit later) the internet.
In fact, since it isn't just American television or movies that are broadcast in their original language, but also British ones and perhaps the occasional Australian show, or something of that ilk, us Dutchies might actually have a broader comprehension of English than a lot of, well... Americans. I have more than once, for example, found myself amused reading reviews by American viewers of British shows or movies, where the reviewer complained about the show/movie being hard to understand because of the British phrasing and accents, whereas I had no problem following it at all. For the record, I am Dutch born and raised, with two Dutch parents and four Dutch grandparents (I never knew any of my great-grandparents, but as far as I know they were also all Dutch) and have never even visited any English speaking territory.
Speaks volumes about the merits of subtitling, doesn't it?
I am still very curious about your opinion of the dutch directness / rudeness / bluntness
I was looking for that words 😁
I fully agree with everything.
Some foreign friends of mine were worried about going to the cinema here aswell, They were shocked when they found out most films are in English 😂
Are you from Belgium? Since Cineman is a word used in Flanders and UK. I've never heard a Dutch English speaker say it in English, most say the movies or theater when they mean bioscoop in English.
Dutch Gamer i am dutch born and raised and say cinema too to be honest because it actually is a cinema in my opinion i would say theater for a musical like and actual theater
@@dutchgamer842 Nope I'm from the Netherlands. Really? That's rather odd to me. Everyone around me uses the word cinema since that's what they taught us in school.
School English isn't real English, it's learned school English.
Theatre is for a play, theater is where movies are shown. In Dutch it would be theater for a play and bioscoop for a movie. In modern Dutch used in the Netherlands isn't commonly used only in Belgian versions of Dutch
If smoking is that annoying to you, then don't go to eastern and southern regions in europe. I personally don't really care if people smoke, but that may also be because of growing up in the Netherlands.
Smoking is something that belongs in 1500, not 2019. It is bad for your own health, 2nd hand smoking. Its good for nothing. It should have been banned long time ago and its ridicilous people still find smoking normal and do not care.
I hope that smoking outside on "het terras" stays. Inside of a Cafe or a club it's already prohibited, which I think is a good thing. I smoke shag and when it was still allowed to smoke inside, I would have irritated eyes of all the smoke at the end of the evening.
Outside they should make a smoking and a no smoking area on "het terras", that way everybody is happy.
The reason why we smoke so moch in the Netherlands is that 50 years ago it was still normal to have cup of cigarettes on the table
We don't all smoke so much. I like cigars and smoke one or two in a week. But cigars are not addictive, that's the difference.
In New York it is against the law to smoke outside and in most places.
They start to be more strict here as well. This year it is not allowed in most play grounds and swimming pools
I don't know why a lot of Dutch people smoke either. A lot of people around me smoke and I am like please stop smoking. At school, we even have lessons about smoking being bad. And people still smoke.
You should visit Utrecht!
IT is near Amsterdam and it’s really Nice
IT is like Amsterdam but less tourists
Joanie De grote nee Brabant jonge
if we overtake on the right you can get a ticket for 240 euro !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
you must pay eventually
It’s funny that your natural voice is so different than your ‘Dutch’ voice 🙈. But you sound like a true Dutchie when speaking Dutch 😊
Meestal als mensen een andere taal spreken klinkt hun stem ook anders
Have you been to a doctor yet in NL? I'd love to hear your comparison of Dutch vs. American doctors. I've been to docs in both places and there are some things the Dutch docs do that I think most Americans wouldn't understand or put up with.
USA="here is your prescription for antibiotics, that should do the job!"
NL="go home rest and take paracetamol. Come back in a week if it hasn't gotten better!"
Kiri Croxford 0:
I have been to both and I agree there are definitely aspects of Dutch healthcare that could be implemented into the U.S. However, it’s been a shock for me that there isn’t as much focus on prevention. In the U.S. I got my first Pap smear at 21 and in the Netherlands it’s at 30. You also get them done less frequently. That’s just one example but I think maybe the Dutch system could work on it a bit...just a thought 👍🏻
@@mlboreoface You can get those earlier if you want can't you?
Genuine question here. But can't your home doctor help you with that?
(For those confused who are not aware. In the Netherlands, you have a "Huis Arts" which is your a physician that is your primary doctor. The person you go to first and who is fully aware of all your personal needs. If you need an assignment at the hospital, it will usually go through them. And they are kept aware of what's going on with you, having all your papers and everything.)
Maddie Broderick there’s a lot of focus on prevention, but it’s more evidence based 5han in the us. The thing about all tests is, they have both a false negative rate and a false positive rate. Even a small false positive rate of 1% (that’s tiny, it’s often 10%) is a really big problem if, say, you’re testing a million people at large of a population of 21 year olds who you’re expecting to have the cancer maybe 0.01% of the time. Yes, you catch a hundred people with cancer slightly early - but you also catch 10.000 people who you have to tell they have cancer, but after multiple invasive further tests - each with their own medical risk! - you eventually determine don’t have cancer.
In most cases, you should only be testing people where you already suspect something is wrong. A test had to be really good in both false pos and neg rate *and* the population in question has to have a pretty high likelihood of having the problem for it to be a net gain to do mass testing. Hence why you don’t get mammograms - or prostate exams - starting at 16 (in either country).
The US has a general tendency to overtest. Or at least, that’s how the medical establishment over here sees it. One could speculate that with how much medical anything in the US costs (with large profits included), there’s a fairly major incentive to overtest.
@@JasperJanssen Not only because of the costs but also because doctors can be sued to the point of getting bankrupt if in the end that one test wasn't done that gives the answer and the person died or has permanent issues due to it.
We can sue here, but it's way less fruitful and you can't sue over an unperformed test.
I am in high school and there it is all about brands, with guys and girls.
Really good to see you make a clear distinction between Amsterdam and the rest of the
Country
In the city I live (Arnhem) people do know the brands and many people wear them, but as you said; the people that wear those brands are also the people that dress nicely every day while the people from smaller towns and the "asociale" people keep with the cheaper more down-to-earth fashion
the reason that many dutch films have subtitles and no voice-over is that the technique was very expensive in the past. the Netherlands is a small country and has too small market for it to take direct costs out of it. nowadays these techniques are much cheaper, but because the Dutch are so used to it, films are still released with subtitles
Omg I hate cigarette smoke too. Like hellooo I didn't come to this terrasje to be killed with your pack of cancer. If people want to smoke, thats fine, but just dont do it in public spaces. I go to college in Rotterdam and they are trying to ban the smokers at the entrance/exit door. It kinda helps but not really, but hey, its a start. Also, as a dutch person I have never noticed that we are so efficient and organized but now you're saying...
I hate it when people smoke when you're just trying to eat outside at a restaurant. I think most people agree that it's rude behaviour but I do think some restaurants putting trays outside are just asking for people to do it. It really shouldn't be a thing. Most people don't want to be rude to the smoker and confront them but really I think we should start actually confronting them. "I'm sorry, I'm inhaling your smoke and would like to eat my dinner." or whatever. Of course there's a ton of smokers who don't know or act like they don't know how awful it is for a non-smoker to be near someone smoking.
@@TheEtueify that is really a great idea actually. Often I am too shy to confront them myself but i do want to enjoy my food/drink ofcourse . We all should do it!
Ronald de Rooij ik haat de homo’s niet. Zij haten mij heel duidelijk. en inderdaad leven en laten leven. als dit een reactie is op mijn comment.. kom lekker in mijn woning wonen en praat over tolerantie. Ik hoef mezelf niet te laten vergiftigen. Ik moet mijn sleutelgaten en kieren afplakken om de rooklucht niet door mijn hele huis te laten trekken.. Het is een hel! Ik heb met hen geprobeerd afspraken te maken waar zij zich niet aan willen houden. Zij hebben 2 overdekte balkons en ze moeten per se onder mijn slaapkamer roken.. ik moet alles vacuüm afsluiten of ik wordt wakker midden in de nacht (4uur) in een bruine kroeg.. maar ik ben intolerant?. Dit is voor hen leven en voor mij mijn dood! Ronald ik ben helemaal voor tolerantie maar ik ben ook voor communicatie en rekening houden met andere mensen.
@@ronaldderooij1774 Dat is factueel incorrect. Intolerantie tegen homos en buitenlanders kan het begin zijn van discriminatie (afhankelijk van hoe die mensen zich gedragen).
Maar ik zie niet in hoe dat te maken heeft met intolerantie voor roken. Van roken is bekend dat het je gezondheid schaadt, en dit geld evengoed voor meeroken, wat dezelfde effecten kan hebben (wat in de gevallen hier geen eigen keuze was, en dat eigenlijk nooit echt is). Ik vind niet dat ik tolerant hoef te zijn voor gedrag dat niet alleen mijn gezondheid schaadt, maar waarvan ik op het moment zelf benauwd word. Het gaat niet om de personen per se, maar om hun gedrag.
In de 70s was nog lang zo veel niet bekend over alle gezondseffecten van roken, dus zeggen dat mensen die het niet tolereren omdat ze het smerig vinden en misschien wel gestopt zijn uit gezondheidsoverwegingen vind ik disrespectvol en het klinkt bijna als het ontkennen van feiten.
Ik ben het ermee eens dat zeggen dat ergens homos wonen en dan zeggen dat er niet mee te praten valt het laat klinken alsof dat door hun sexualiteit komt, terwijl dat er geen ene ruk mee te maken heeft.
Maar tolerantie gaat twee kanten op he. Als de ene persoon jouw mening en gezondheid niet tolereert (respecteren vind ik dat hier het minimum zou moeten zijn, niet alleen maar tolereren) vind ik dat even goed slecht.
Het laat je niet onpopulair lijken in mijn ogen, meer alsof je niet alle moderne kennis weet/accepteert.
@@ronaldderooij1774Leven en laten leven? Ik kon 20 jaar geleden als kleuter nauwelijks in restaurantjes eten, omdat ik astma-aanvallen kreeg van de rook. Nu kan dat gelukkig wel, binnen. Maar de terrassen en ongeveer alle drukke openbare plekken zijn nog altijd hel. Vaak roken mensen op de fiets en als ik erachter fiets, word ik alweer benauwd. Ik wil ook leven. Ook lekker op terassen zitten.
I think if you have expensive cars, bags or clothes in the Netherlands (especially outside of the big cities) people often see you as pretentious, arrogant or a show off (a lot of the times also just plain jealousy) while in America people applaud you for making that much money. The expensive items are more of a way of showing the world how good you are doing in life.
In my opinion we could learn a lot from each other! Dutchies have a way of shaming people that show their wealth.
I think for teenagers the brands of your clothes do matter. A few years ago all I wanted to wear was Hilfiger, A&F, Kenzo.. etc. (I went to highschool with like 2300 other students and most of them were also wearing brands only.) As I am a bit older now, my parents give me 'kleedgeld' (monthly allowance for clothing) and I really got to learn the value of money. I think many people would like to buy a designer something, but just think it's to expensive in comparison to the satisfaction you get in return. They'd prefer to buy two intire outfits for the same amount of money (but I'm pretty sure that's also due to the Dutch mentality).
I'm also grossed out by smoking, luckily there are more and more bans for cigarettes. In the cities it's still pretty crazy with the smokers, but in Drenthe 20% of the people smoke which is the highest of all provinces. It probably has to do with the amount of elderly people as well here :^) in France it was worse from my experience
We know fashion labels, but we don’t have the need to have them. There are good bags for less money. So why would you spend more for a little tag?
Honestly what i‘ve experienced with smoking is the the pressure of a group or family that people start by that and because most grew up in The Netherlands with so many people around them smoking we (or i) almost never notice it anymore
It shocked me that alot of people think an hour is long. It takes an hour to go from Venlo too Zeeland & my husband wants to spend the night every time we go.
Like no, driving that long is no big deal! We leave early, we leavr late. Its a while day.
Very nice video, I enjoyed watching it as a Dutch guy. I think we take/need a lot more driving lessons for being able to pass the exam than what you need to pass the exam in the US.
We do know designer brands but don't like to flash it in ones face. And most of us (like me) are too down to earth indeed to spend too much money on something like a bag which will be fashionable for about a year. But yes we like to look good and clean.
I reckon most of the younger generation recognizes LV or DG or Gucci logos... it’s just that we know (particularly if it’s a big ticket item like a purse or shoes or whatever) that you either overpaid or got a fake, and we’re not so into that.
Smoking is getting less and less i think because when i was a teen i started smoking because everybody did it...And then you become addicted to it..Smoking is an addiction. But back then (i am almost 44) it was the thing to do..It was cool. I quit smoking 4 years ago. So i do not (yet) mind the smoke on terrasjes because i get it. I get why people smoke. Also years ago you could smoke inside restaurants but now you can't anymore and you have to go outside..So in the winter everybody is fine with you standing outside but in the summer when you do sit outside (terrasje) then everybody screams bloody murder..I don't think that is ok..There should be space for smokers outside and non smokers and if you do not like it, go inside the restaurant it has been made smoke free for non smokers..Besides living in a big city like Amsterdam is not that healthy, air wise.
I went to a country last year Macedonie ( i think it is called something else now) and i am telling you if you hate the amount of people here you should see it in that country..Everybody smokes..even inside a restaurant, it is everywhere.
Why people (start to) smoke? Good question, i really do not know. But it becomes an addiction..
For me, i don't like alcohol (alcoholic mother)..I hate what it can do to people when they overuse the stuff. It is also unhealthy to drink alcohol but nobody cares about it. Some people can become such assholes when they drink or even very violent or very loud. Not my thing at all..Sure, you can drink a glass, but it is still not healthy to do that, even if it's "just" 1 glass. So that is for me the: I DON'T UNDERSTAND WHY part.
let me put a few things into perspectives:
smoking is generally seen as a nuisance as well, so much to the point that smokers aren't allowed to smoke inside most (public) buildings/areas and ONLY outside or on specific smokers zones in open areas (you'll see these at the treinstation for example). this is why you'll see a lot of people flock together smoking, making it seem a lot of people smoke. this way smokers can finish each other off with mee-roken :) the silver lining to this is that it gives people reason to make some contact and time to socialise while smoking.
as for wearing brand things, you need to understand that within the netherlands, everyone is equal, and by that i really mean, EVERYONE is equal and you will indirectly learn that you don't have more value than somebody else does just because you have more money to spend. this is also why people are very casual, friendly, blunt, but accepting of/to everyone. this reflects back to their spending on clothing as well. this doesn't mean that people here aren't stylish or fashionable, but funnily enough, just like in most places of the world, people will buy brand things if it's heavily discounted, so people are definitely money-conscious of their spending. part of it is also seeing value in owning something, you'll definitely see a lot of people owning expensive smartphones for example, as it's now considered to be a crucial part of their daily lives.
maid , but why does it have to be an expensive smartphone? They all do essentially the same thing. Has an expensive smartphone become the new status symbol?
Think smoking kills less than obesity, but that's not important. Yes I'm a smoker, but I'm not an asshole. I only smoke at home, even if it doesn't hurt the health, I just can't imagine anybody wants to smell my smoke.
Smokers are anti social people for sure. It belongs in 1500, not in 2019. We now know it has zero, yes zero good sides. Only bad sides for yourself and for others around you. Even when doing it in home. It is what ''tokkies'' would do, as we say it in NL. Its just disgusting and so bad. Unbelievable it is still not bad in 2019.....
From Breda to the south...Eindhoven.. both citues ate in the South...
Breda , Rotterdam is 20 minutes by train.
Amsterdam is 1 hour and 10 minutes
I was in Arizona a while ago and I was shocked because how little people smoked. It's also not even allowed to smoke near an entrance of restaurants and such. I don't smoke myself and I don't like it either, but I guess I'm just used to seeing it everywhere because I grew up in the Netherlands.
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Most of my friends only smoke when they drink, because they like the combination. But yeah I don’t know why it’s a thing here, I also feel people start pretty young
I get the smoking problem, I absolutely hate is as well. Only in the Netherlands you re not allowed to smoke in public buildings. I notice abroad people smoke in cafes etc. people here in the Netherlands can’t smoke inside so you see them smoking outside. I think that’s part of the reason it looks like a lot of people do it..
traffic jams are still a thing here, so not that effeciently
labels are still a thing. especially highschool kids wear them to "look cool"
We live so close to Paris that we can go by bike. I did it once with my parents. It took like five days or something tough.
In regards to the smoking thing, the government is working against that. Smoking inside cafés used to be allowed. Now it's illegal, except maybe in licenced smoking cafés.
Style and good taste aren't about brands. By craving for branded goods you're enabling other people to make a lot of money at your expense (literally).
I just discovered your channel and I love it! I am from The Netherlands too and I think you're so right about the smoking, that really opened my eyes
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Omg your Dutch is so good 😍😍😍 a lot of people that come from America to life in The Netherlands they can’t even speak so good as you can.
designer stuff is big in the Randstad which is Amsterdam, Rotterdam, Utrecht and The Hague ands everything between(urban areas). So pretty much people from the city. Living inside the randstad is an entire different way of life then outside of the randstad.
Biggest dreamer ugh. Yes, the mindless buying of Gucci plakkaatjes, expensive sneakers, Phillipe Plein. All that crap. It’s like Dutch chavs.
But then there’s the girls that wore uggs for ten years, and those are everywhere lol.
There’s also that preppy style, with the Gaastra and Scotch and Soda. Kinda basic if you ask me.
We don't go for expensive names, but for quality and value for money. This not only includes clothing but everything.
Loved this video! Definitely recognize these things! Moving from the US to the Netherlands is such a culture shock 😂 Still love both though 😍
Everywhere in de Randstad shits crazyyyyy with big labels. But mostly teenagers. We actually have very expensive Dutch brands that everyone wears so u might not know them
One thing I don't get in America is how it works with when you can drive a car. Like, in al these high school movies you see all these teenagers drive a car. How is that? Do they all already have a license at the age of sixteen? Could someone please explain this to me?
You're right about the smoking, but that's not just in The Netherlands. I think here it's even less than many other countries in Europe. I've been to Switzerland a few years ago and they were smoking all over. The moment they got out of the train everybody started smoking. I'm glad it's getting better here though, but it takes time. At many places it's more and more forbidden to smoke on the terrass but yeah, it's still done.
True, a lot of European countries also have open cigarette machines, where you just put some money in and you'll get new cigarettes, something you will never see in NL. The cigarette prices in NL are also way higher than in any other European country (that iv'e been in atleast).
About the smoking, when I was young (1980) during a birthday party of a parent or family member it was normal to have a big glass at the table filled with cigarettes !
And all my uncles and aunts continuously take cigarettes from the glass and simply fill the whole room with a cloud of smoke. Also at school, my teachers were always busy "rolling" cigarettes so they could smoke during the breaks between classes. Personally I have never smoked. I hate the smell it creates from someones mouth , I even hate the smell in my clothes after I have stand next to someone smoking for 2 minutes. And you're right about the subtitles ! It worked the other way around for me, I've learned English from tv shows like "The A-team" , "The Dukes of Hazzard" , "Knightrider" indeed by reading the subtitles and hearing the English.
Im from the Netherlands and i think the smoking problem is bc dutch people dont like change. They dont want to change anything. As soon as the government says “the cigarettes are getting more expensive” every dutch person will get mad and smoke even more.
Lowkey 1 hour to Amsterdam? As a Haarlemmer I think 30 minutes to anywhere is a long time. If it's closeby I can walk it.
the reason people drive slower is because the road was designed that way, Dutch road designers are possibly the best in the world
I had my dutch (his parents were dutch) canadian uncle over for a visit and we went to Zeeland from Brabant. I brought some drinks and a snack because roadtrip lol and he thought it was pretty funny that I thought of it like that.
I don't like it when people smoke, I've noticed that it has been getting less but it still happens.
Also you can overtake on the right if the other car signals that its going left.
The smoking is only in the large cities in my experience. When you get outside of said cities it changes and very little people smoke.
About the smoking: only in Amsterdam people smoke so much. In other cities it is different and most of the time you are not allowed to smoke in café's.
What was your first experience like, with the 4th of may 8 o'clock silence for remembering those fallen in war, throughout the whole of The Netherlands?
And concerning the smoking, having more people do it makes it harder to get rid off it. Politically and legally the manufacturer wins all the battles up until now. People really try to do something about it. On the street you life and let life as long as you can evade it.
In the Netherlands people with designer bags or designer clothes are usually not the best people to befriend or to hang out with.
In a previous video you mentioned that in the US people work a LOT more hours than here in Europe. One of the side effects of that is less possibilities and desire to acquire expensive goods when cheaper equivalents are available.
Also we don’t like to display our wealth (or lack thereof :).
You may have noticed that talking about income/wages here is a big taboo, where it seems to be openly discussed in the US.
hey joey i really like your view on dutch culture keep it up, stay positive !
we do have dubbed movies, they are mostly just for children. a lot of times they also have the original version of that movie
I live in the netherlands and I have some courses in English actually. Geography, mathematics and PE are in English.
Dear Joey, you should participate in dutch traffic more often. There are really a lot of bad drivers.
meh compare to other countries we are heavinly safe
I also dont understand why its isnt illegal to smoke or at least like 25 euro a package
Smoking is more normal because people start at a young age, because you can smoke while you're underage. besides that, you can smoke almost everywhere and yeah
Alright.. so my theory on the 'nice driving' has also to do with the way things are so well organized around here. There is actually not much choice but to drive according to the rules (although.. trust me.. there are still a LOT of A**holes and Sunday-drivers as well): We have no space to be disorganized! (haha imagine putting a family of 10 ppl in the cupboard underneath the stairs) Holland (like u said) is a very tiny country. And there are a LOT of people here (There's 500 ppl per square km).. if we want to keep things pleasant, we have to stick by the rules.. AND be tolerant towards each other.
I remember when (more than 20 years ago now) Holland was famous for its tolerance.. but that's faded big time now.. everyone is complaining about everything.. everyone's toes are so long that u can barely thread anywhere anymore (look @ intolerance towards smokers these days.. :) without someone complaining they feel offended.
Also.. the organization is not always a blessing. At times it can be very suffocating as well. I remember I went to Bali as well when I was young.. I was there for 3 months and another few months Australia.. when it was time for me to go home, I was quite alright.. It'd be nice to see all my friends and family again. But the minute we flew over Holland.. and I saw all the neat rows of houses.. perfectly organized with the neat little streets and a car parked by every house.. it just felt like a huge hand slowly squeezed all the breath out of me.. I got all choked up and started bawling my eyes out until I hyperventilated hahaha Panic attack
Trust me.. if this is what you've known for all your life.. it can feel like a true liberation to be somewhere where not everything is organized.. there is space and place for things to grow and be creative.
And yeah 2000€ for a name on a bag... lol.. it even sounds silly already!!
I understand the designer bag thing, but in The Netherlands we’re very careful with our money, and we do have designer outlet stores and designer stores in Amsterdam, but we’re not going to buy a bag for €500 of more, for us that is a waste of money, but some girls (also myself) do have some designer bags, so not all girls don’t have designer things x
I don’t live in a big city or go there much. but here in this small village there are not many people smoking and almost never in cafes dust a view
Totally with you on the Smoking. I'm living in Hilversum by the way and I really dislike it when I'm always placed in the position like I'm moaning, for example when the weather is nice and it's nice to be outside at a restaurant or café and everybody is literally blowing smoke in my face! I can see that disappearing over the next decade, the trend is there already and I know it's gonna happen someday that smoking is seen as totally uncool. I was pleasantly surprised about this in Sweden, where literally nobody smokes any more.
Most people (like, almost everyone) often brag when they get a compliment on their outfit.. ""oh, this? it was only 10,- in sale! Cool right?!"
That's pretty cool, it's similar here in Australia. Down play the price, up play the awesome sale you go it from.
Yeah in the Netherlands a lot of people smoke and I really hate it to, like most of my friens smoke and they are not even the legal age to smoke