I mention early on that Sherpa is an ethnicity NOT a job title, then at 12:34 go onto say ‘their children don’t want to become Sherpas’ which I SHOULD say mountain guide. That’s a mistake from me! Suppose it reinforces how engrained the word Sherpa is in most of us as a job, not an ethnicity.
The type of people who treat the Sherpa's with no respect see them as the help nothing more. At least pay for there gear, these people are the true heros of Everest and should be treated that way.
True that. I said to someone else, people who have 100k disposable income to climb Everest, generally have ALOT more. Tipping the Sherpa 10k for a successful summit likely wouldn’t effect them much but could double the Sherpas income
They do respect Sherpas but after paying 100k they don't have much left over to tip the Sherpa. They expect the Sherpa will get more than a few % of the 100k they paid and we really should be asking why the Sherpa's get such a small %.
People respect the sherpas about a thousand times more than they respect the climbers (or whatever you wanna call them). They’re, without a close second, the most highly regarded mountaineers on the planet
A serpentine waiting line at the Hilary Step is not mountaineering. Perhaps it’s extraordinarily dangerous and expensive eco tourism but it’s not mountaineering.
That’s what creeps me out the most, I genuinely couldn’t imagine waiting in a line at above 8000 meters having to squeeze past people to get your two minutes on top…
Also I wonder if such queues, will cause people to take unnecessary risks by climbing in slightly less ideal windows so that they reach the peak with less people
Real eco-tourism would be going to Everest specifically to remove garbage. My impression is the vast majority who are there to summit really don't care about adding to the trash pile, and they have already spent so much money, a couple thousand bucks probably doesn't matter. I can certainly see why the Sherpa community is backing away. Risking one's life on a daily basis to haul some novice climbers dumb butt up and down the mountain wouldn't appeal to me either.
Unfortunately as Sherpas fade from Everest it’ll just fall to these travel companies to provide guides and likely make Everest even more commercial than it already is. These climbers disgust me, they’ve turned Everest into a dump, and quite frankly I think Sherpas have been treated very poorly and it’s evident.
No, most Western climbers respect the Sherpas and know that without them there's no way they'd have much chance of summitting. It's the minority who don't. Yes the rubbish and debris that MANY climbers leave behind is disgraceful and so disrespectful to the mountain. Without Sherpa support, expeditions would have to fork out big money to replace the Sherpa with climbing guides plus there's far fewer qualified guides than Sherpa. That would be a good thing because I'm sure that it would reduce the number of climbers each year.
I back the Sherpas totally,as if there are no more, no more climbing Mt Everest, and the west can get down to the serious problem of getting all the humanoid pollution off Mt Everest, which many irresponsible humans have left behind ☮
What do you mean the West? Does that include the Russian, Chinese, Indian, Taiwanese, or Japanese? Are they all westerners too, or are you just a bigot?
Your comments read like a person in guilt, trying to flogg off the truth. There's people with a western culture thinking. Which includes thinking of ME,ME,ME and use and abuse, in all countries Your prejudice statement mentions and all the rest It takes a bigot to know a bigot,but you don't know me
Spoiled rich people who climb mountains to brag to their rich friends about ! And of course they leave their rubbish behind just like everyone in their class! They have people who clean up after them most of the time but not on the mountains!
It’s deeply depressing how little respect the Sherpas get. And yet it’s not even unique to Everest where the people so relied upon, who know the land, how best to survive and adapt to changing weather conditions are just swept aside (Vilhjalmur Stefansson is my arch nemesis). I wish there was a cap on how many people can actually climb per season tbh since I don’t think price increases will do a great deal to help
Yeah lets be honest, the people who can afford to climb, arn't going to be concerned with a few $1000 increase in permit costs, thats probably just skipping lunch for a day... It truly is INSANE to me how you can disrespect someone who saved your life, they wouldn't be climbing the mountain with out the icefall doctors putting their lives at risk to set ladders up etc!
If the number of porters that can be hired on Evers has dropped, perhaps those porters have come to realize how little they get paid for a month important jobs they do including carrying a heavy object as well as sharpening the people who are not totally well. Being a Porter on Everest is a very dangerous job just to be there and several of them have scored summits of five to 10 times. How these well trained people could be paid to equal the dangers they take seems to be impossible which is another reason for Everest's climbing to stop. No one climbs Mount Everest, then it would be very difficult for someone to die on the slopes from climbing problems.
It’s not that. It’s the size of prize. More permits equals more climbers equals less Sherpa available. They aren’t quitting. The permits approved only even count Nepalese side attempts as the permits counted come from Nepal but don’t forget the Tibet northeast ridge was approved for the first time In 2024.
You explain Sherpa is an ethnicity, but then you constantly use the term like it is a job title, not an ethnicity. A Sherpa's child has no choice but to be a Sherpa, as it is their ethnicity. It is not a choice. Working as a mountain guide or a porter is a choice.
Do you know what, I literally just rewatched and thought that, then read your comment. I suppose it reinforces my point even more that the term Sherpa is so engrained as a job. Poor from me, thanks for pointing it out. I’ll pin a comment to explain my mistake!
Can’t wait for your video! Let us know when it’s ready and add the link. With nothing good to say in your comment, I’m certain you’ll show us how it’s done! 🙄
Without any question, "sherpas" are the backbone of everest! Without their hard work, experiences of expedition of this beautiful landmark, their abilities as native natural acclimatised heroes and their empathetic services for mountaineers, there certainly wouldn't be so many successful summits.
So ive heard so many different stories. This was great. But how much does it actually cost. You have to get a permit which i heard was 50k then pay the sherpa 600, but you said 15k ? Just learning im not going im just really curious
Well, an expedition in total can cost up to $100,000 but this is split across many different things, you’re paying for flights, permits, accommodation, for the Sherpa, for the agency, for equipment etc. I don’t know the exact splits but the point is really that they pay SO much money yet so little goes to the Sherpas…
Without climbing Sherpa few climbers would be able to reach the summit. It's a matter of energy expenditure. Carrying each and every camp on ones back takes its toll. Then there's the Icefall. Very few climbers could get through the Icefall without the work of the Icefall Doctors that's riddled with crevasses and toppling ice often the size of a multi-story building. Though I can't see it happening. Sherpa can make a years income from just one expedition. It is what it is. Since it's an extremely dangerous job and considering that most climbing Sherpa are married and responsible for extended family, the life insurance needs to be raised to an amount that would care for a Sherpas family for life [Way less than one may think. Nepal is seriously impoverished so $50K would be sufficient. ATM I think that Sherpas lives are covered for $5K] Too bad if that would be an expensive proposition, a Sherpas family should not suffer excessively from the loss of their bread winner.
The president of nepal for Mountaineers is right. It used to be a journey for real, extreme, and thoroughbred expeditors. More rookie adventurists have taken up the expedition just because they can afford it. This has caused these bottlenecks.
This is ludicrous that many people climbing the mountain at once they need to just shut this down nobody needs to climb Mount Everest it's just outrageous if they want to climb something go climb K2 and then say you've really climbed a scary mountain.
Well, people generally learn to be more respectful of situations when they HAVE to. Harsh thing to say, but in the long run, letting Everest become as dangerous as other Himalayan mountains (and don't attract the less-experienced climbers) is probably a good thing. Assuming you can't/won't regulate the skill level of the climbers.
People like to brag they climbed Everest, meanwhile they couldn't have done it without sherpas, so they didn't really climb Everest on their own efforts. So stop with the bragging !!!
You clearly don't understand what it actually takes to climb these peaks, Everest is actually an easier climb than most other 8k peaks. It's not legal to climb without a sherpa...I don't need any, but I'm forced to use them, perhaps direct your faux outrage towards the Nepalese Govt. Then again, thyley mandated it to milk more money out of everyone for the sherpas and their families...so pick which side you prefer, poor and homeless or well paid and rich?
Maybe its time to consider why some individuals want to climb mountains at all and help them cure their mental illness rather than applaud them for doing downright crazy stuff and risking the lives of others in the process as well as their own. The ultimate adrenalin rush is not a good justification
@@EverythingExplainedd you touched on it.. people turning up with cash thinking they are mountaineers compromising everyone's safety.. trashing the place.. so they can have a s "selfie" ? could theses sorts get up there without them?... not a chance... so who's fault is it?
They reach the top of the mountain with the help of many others (I dont care if they are paid or not that does not change the truth) and tell a story as if they did it all alone...
@@EverythingExplainedd Don't be so ridiculous. Restrict Everest to One team of Max 50 real climbers per season, fine then many thousands of dollars if they do not remove their trash, charge them millions of dollars for the Licence to climb for one season. Don't panda to wannabe rich dick head clients who just want bragging rights at the gold club. Nepal are being pathetic and need to ger a grip. fast.
No sherpas would be able to convince me to cancel our trip. I would not have can canceled my trip because of that dude. No way. He's not my problem and I paid for my sherpa!!!
Climbers pay more than enough, if the price goes up much more only the very richest will be able to climb Everest and I hate to see things become unaffordable for 99% of people. We need to take a hard look at where the money climbers pay is going, the sherpas need to get a bigger % of it and alot less of it needs to go to permits/fat government bureaucrats that sit behind a desk. We also need to question things like a 5k jacket/crampons, I know you need good gear but I'm thinking you could make a quality jacket/crampons for several hundred $. Also $50 per meal in a 2nd or 3rd world country? Does putting bags of food on a yak's back really cost that much?
I agree with you the distribution of money needs to be looked at. Obviously the agencies takes the lions share of the money and some of that trickles down to the Sherpa. Thing is, you don’t want it to be too cheap as you don’t want to lower the barrier so much, it’s not an easy thing to do, but I also get your point. It’s a tough one!
I mention early on that Sherpa is an ethnicity NOT a job title, then at 12:34 go onto say ‘their children don’t want to become Sherpas’ which I SHOULD say mountain guide.
That’s a mistake from me! Suppose it reinforces how engrained the word Sherpa is in most of us as a job, not an ethnicity.
You are good bro, it’s just wants engrained in us and thank you for th clarification
The type of people who treat the Sherpa's with no respect see them as the help nothing more. At least pay for there gear, these people are the true heros of Everest and should be treated that way.
True that. I said to someone else, people who have 100k disposable income to climb Everest, generally have ALOT more. Tipping the Sherpa 10k for a successful summit likely wouldn’t effect them much but could double the Sherpas income
i dont even know why people dont respect sherpas, theyre literally the goats of mountaineering
I really agree, I couldn't believe that story when I did the research for this video...
They do respect Sherpas but after paying 100k they don't have much left over to tip the Sherpa. They expect the Sherpa will get more than a few % of the 100k they paid and we really should be asking why the Sherpa's get such a small %.
@@Weathernerd27yeah and that. But also respect doesn’t just equal money as was the case with Ravichandran
People respect the sherpas about a thousand times more than they respect the climbers (or whatever you wanna call them). They’re, without a close second, the most highly regarded mountaineers on the planet
Don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone disrespect a Sherpa, their borderline worshipped in the mountaineering world
A serpentine waiting line at the Hilary Step is not mountaineering. Perhaps it’s extraordinarily dangerous and expensive eco tourism but it’s not mountaineering.
That’s what creeps me out the most, I genuinely couldn’t imagine waiting in a line at above 8000 meters having to squeeze past people to get your two minutes on top…
Also I wonder if such queues, will cause people to take unnecessary risks by climbing in slightly less ideal windows so that they reach the peak with less people
@EverythingExplainedd Real alpinists no doubt still climb the mountain by routes other than the two used by the tourists and without using Sherpas.
Real eco-tourism would be going to Everest specifically to remove garbage. My impression is the vast majority who are there to summit really don't care about adding to the trash pile, and they have already spent so much money, a couple thousand bucks probably doesn't matter. I can certainly see why the Sherpa community is backing away. Risking one's life on a daily basis to haul some novice climbers dumb butt up and down the mountain wouldn't appeal to me either.
@@sully2737 Ok, ego tourism then.
Unfortunately as Sherpas fade from Everest it’ll just fall to these travel companies to provide guides and likely make Everest even more commercial than it already is.
These climbers disgust me, they’ve turned Everest into a dump, and quite frankly I think Sherpas have been treated very poorly and it’s evident.
You're very wrong, and this video is a lie.
No, most Western climbers respect the Sherpas and know that without them there's no way they'd have much chance of summitting. It's the minority who don't.
Yes the rubbish and debris that MANY climbers leave behind is disgraceful and so disrespectful to the mountain.
Without Sherpa support, expeditions would have to fork out big money to replace the Sherpa with climbing guides plus there's far fewer qualified guides than Sherpa.
That would be a good thing because I'm sure that it would reduce the number of climbers each year.
Dude's ego couldn't handle being saved by a sherpa, what a baby!
I know
The Nepalese govt. needs to limit the permits. Raise the prices but limit the numbers. It's ridiculous.
kinda kills the great achievement sensation when i got 50 people in front of me and 50 behind
yep
Thank you for supporting the Sherpas.
always
Im gonna pay someone to help me drag my ass up a mountain then run around and act like i did it myself..
I climb these peaks regularly, and sherpas don't "drag me up." However, it's now illegal to climb without them.
This video isn't even accurate 😂🤦♂️
I back the Sherpas totally,as if there are no more, no more climbing Mt Everest, and the west can get down to the serious problem of getting all the humanoid pollution off Mt Everest, which many irresponsible humans have left behind ☮
It’s so sad that we as humans are so selfish we literally leave RUBBISH on one of the most pure places on earth
What do you mean the West? Does that include the Russian, Chinese, Indian, Taiwanese, or Japanese? Are they all westerners too, or are you just a bigot?
Your comments read like a person in guilt, trying to flogg off the truth. There's people with a western culture thinking. Which includes thinking of ME,ME,ME and use and abuse, in all countries Your prejudice statement mentions and all the rest
It takes a bigot to know a bigot,but you don't know me
Spoiled rich people who climb mountains to brag to their rich friends about ! And of course they leave their rubbish behind just like everyone in their class! They have people who clean up after them most of the time but not on the mountains!
Actually the sherpas try to keep it clean. They actually respect the mountain!
Stop being a hater just because you aren't capable. Those who can, do.
Sherpas are the shephards of this beautiful breathtaking nature! Everest and their deceased forever in our hearts❤
they are indeed
its turned into a deadly disneyland
yep
It’s deeply depressing how little respect the Sherpas get. And yet it’s not even unique to Everest where the people so relied upon, who know the land, how best to survive and adapt to changing weather conditions are just swept aside (Vilhjalmur Stefansson is my arch nemesis). I wish there was a cap on how many people can actually climb per season tbh since I don’t think price increases will do a great deal to help
Yeah lets be honest, the people who can afford to climb, arn't going to be concerned with a few $1000 increase in permit costs, thats probably just skipping lunch for a day...
It truly is INSANE to me how you can disrespect someone who saved your life, they wouldn't be climbing the mountain with out the icefall doctors putting their lives at risk to set ladders up etc!
If the number of porters that can be hired on Evers has dropped, perhaps those porters have come to realize how little they get paid for a month important jobs they do including carrying a heavy object as well as sharpening the people who are not totally well. Being a Porter on Everest is a very dangerous job just to be there and several of them have scored summits of five to 10 times. How these well trained people could be paid to equal the dangers they take seems to be impossible which is another reason for Everest's climbing to stop.
No one climbs Mount Everest, then it would be very difficult for someone to die on the slopes from climbing problems.
It’s not that. It’s the size of prize. More permits equals more climbers equals less Sherpa available. They aren’t quitting. The permits approved only even count Nepalese side attempts as the permits counted come from Nepal but don’t forget the Tibet northeast ridge was approved for the first time In 2024.
i wouldnt want to go somewhere where its slippery and if i trip and fall im dead
mountains arnt for you then buddy
You explain Sherpa is an ethnicity, but then you constantly use the term like it is a job title, not an ethnicity. A Sherpa's child has no choice but to be a Sherpa, as it is their ethnicity. It is not a choice. Working as a mountain guide or a porter is a choice.
Do you know what, I literally just rewatched and thought that, then read your comment. I suppose it reinforces my point even more that the term Sherpa is so engrained as a job. Poor from me, thanks for pointing it out.
I’ll pin a comment to explain my mistake!
Can’t wait for your video! Let us know when it’s ready and add the link. With nothing good to say in your comment, I’m certain you’ll show us how it’s done! 🙄
10:10 The Sherpa carrying the man on his back looks like a scene from Death Stranding
indeed
Without any question, "sherpas" are the backbone of everest! Without their hard work, experiences of expedition of this beautiful landmark, their abilities as native natural acclimatised heroes and their empathetic services for mountaineers, there certainly wouldn't be so many successful summits.
they are!
That pos who owes his life to the Sherpa and then films isn’t giving whom credit and blocked him is an animal.
yep.
So ive heard so many different stories. This was great. But how much does it actually cost. You have to get a permit which i heard was 50k then pay the sherpa 600, but you said 15k ? Just learning im not going im just really curious
Well, an expedition in total can cost up to $100,000 but this is split across many different things, you’re paying for flights, permits, accommodation, for the Sherpa, for the agency, for equipment etc. I don’t know the exact splits but the point is really that they pay SO much money yet so little goes to the Sherpas…
The Sherpa need a union
Facts
This guy that is alive because of this Sherpa is a disgrace
Truly, if you go on his Instagram he’s still climbing mountains
Without climbing Sherpa few climbers would be able to reach the summit. It's a matter of energy expenditure.
Carrying each and every camp on ones back takes its toll.
Then there's the Icefall. Very few climbers could get through the Icefall without the work of the Icefall Doctors that's riddled with crevasses and toppling ice often the size of a multi-story building.
Though I can't see it happening. Sherpa can make a years income from just one expedition.
It is what it is. Since it's an extremely dangerous job and considering that most climbing Sherpa are married and responsible for extended family, the life insurance needs to be raised to an amount that would care for a Sherpas family for life [Way less than one may think. Nepal is seriously impoverished so $50K would be sufficient. ATM I think that Sherpas lives are covered for $5K]
Too bad if that would be an expensive proposition, a Sherpas family should not suffer excessively from the loss of their bread winner.
The president of nepal for Mountaineers is right. It used to be a journey for real, extreme, and thoroughbred expeditors. More rookie adventurists have taken up the expedition just because they can afford it. This has caused these bottlenecks.
it really has
This is ludicrous that many people climbing the mountain at once they need to just shut this down nobody needs to climb Mount Everest it's just outrageous if they want to climb something go climb K2 and then say you've really climbed a scary mountain.
Well, people generally learn to be more respectful of situations when they HAVE to. Harsh thing to say, but in the long run, letting Everest become as dangerous as other Himalayan mountains (and don't attract the less-experienced climbers) is probably a good thing. Assuming you can't/won't regulate the skill level of the climbers.
People like to brag they climbed Everest, meanwhile they couldn't have done it without sherpas, so they didn't really climb Everest on their own efforts. So stop with the bragging !!!
You clearly don't understand what it actually takes to climb these peaks, Everest is actually an easier climb than most other 8k peaks.
It's not legal to climb without a sherpa...I don't need any, but I'm forced to use them, perhaps direct your faux outrage towards the Nepalese Govt. Then again, thyley mandated it to milk more money out of everyone for the sherpas and their families...so pick which side you prefer, poor and homeless or well paid and rich?
Absolute stupidity if you ask me
Which bit 😅
Maybe its time to consider why some individuals want to climb mountains at all and help them cure their mental illness rather than applaud them for doing downright crazy stuff and risking the lives of others in the process as well as their own. The ultimate adrenalin rush is not a good justification
This is disgusting
you could make an argument that the death rate is higher because of the Sherpa's... how many people would not go up without them.?
well thats kinda not the point
@@EverythingExplainedd you touched on it.. people turning up with cash thinking they are mountaineers compromising everyone's safety.. trashing the place.. so they can have a s "selfie" ? could theses sorts get up there without them?... not a chance... so who's fault is it?
bump it to 100k why not
Should really just get to say they stood in the worlds tallest line.
A few thousand?.. that's a lot of peoples
There should be a monument 2014 for the Sherpas
I belive there is somewhere
It looks boring to me..I don't get it.
just pay the sherpa to climb it for you.alot less dangerous that way.
hmm
Sherpa and Axe are key to Everest
indeed
No, nope not me
Why? Egos, $$$, and stupidity.
$600 wtf
They reach the top of the mountain with the help of many others (I dont care if they are paid or not that does not change the truth) and tell a story as if they did it all alone...
I dont get what you mean
Looks like a zoo to death.
Let them climb all year round. Call it population control
😮
Agreed
Good! Now the bored rich, the ego maniacs & thr adrenaline junkies can self select out without endangering others.
lollll
did you really need to explain why the sherpas want to quit
I did
Nepal is liable for destroying the Mountain. They are culpable.
Suppose, would you suggest they stopped anyone going on?
@@EverythingExplainedd Yes, a thousand times yes. There are plenty of other mountains
@@bobg1069 maybe block all the 8000 meter +
@@EverythingExplainedd Don't be so ridiculous. Restrict Everest to One team of Max 50 real climbers per season, fine then many thousands of dollars if they do not remove their trash, charge them millions of dollars for the Licence to climb for one season. Don't panda to wannabe rich dick head clients who just want bragging rights at the gold club. Nepal are being pathetic and need to ger a grip. fast.
No sherpas would be able to convince me to cancel our trip. I would not have can canceled my trip because of that dude. No way. He's not my problem and I paid for my sherpa!!!
Paid for the Sherpa's help, you mean. He's not yours, after all.
Climbers pay more than enough, if the price goes up much more only the very richest will be able to climb Everest and I hate to see things become unaffordable for 99% of people. We need to take a hard look at where the money climbers pay is going, the sherpas need to get a bigger % of it and alot less of it needs to go to permits/fat government bureaucrats that sit behind a desk. We also need to question things like a 5k jacket/crampons, I know you need good gear but I'm thinking you could make a quality jacket/crampons for several hundred $. Also $50 per meal in a 2nd or 3rd world country? Does putting bags of food on a yak's back really cost that much?
I agree with you the distribution of money needs to be looked at. Obviously the agencies takes the lions share of the money and some of that trickles down to the Sherpa.
Thing is, you don’t want it to be too cheap as you don’t want to lower the barrier so much, it’s not an easy thing to do, but I also get your point. It’s a tough one!
only reason is the greed of Nepalese government
Maybe so