Using the Canon EOS M50 Mirrorless Camera to Photograph Roe Deer

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  • @messylaura
    @messylaura 2 роки тому +25

    i been using the M50, my first proper camera, (lave it!!!) for 2 1/2 years now,
    lenses i use for wildlife are the two big sigma contemporarys, 150-600 / 100-400, also a sigma 50-150 and 105mm ƒ1.4 for foxes at night, also a couple of efm lenses, find them great as complimentry ones with a big lens or on thier own on a light carry
    i find the servo mode works very well, i use single point 99% of the time with servo or one shot, if its a bird in clear skies then i use the multipoint tracking.
    i do like the one shot as it also has a quick link to the magnify focus aid when you half press the shutter and turn the focus ring at the same time, on selected lenses i think,
    i shoot in manual mode so i can keep a check on what the camera is doing wit auto iso, which can be limited in the menu to 100-400, 100-800, 100-1600 etc
    when shooting wildlife you gen changeable conditions all the time, clouds or direction you are shooting, what background you shooting against so i prefer the manual mode over semi auto so that i can change the settings knowing the only thing that would be moving is the iso if i'm not on a specific one
    with semi auto i have to then see what the camera moved the work from that,
    the image lag could be the preview thing, turn that off (red menu 1, image preview), same as you said for AF continuous, turn that mad sod off too,, as for the silent shutter forget it, its in the scenes section and locked in to an auto settings mode so the camera can control it, i guess the tech has to do that as the read speed of the sensor will be quite basic in an entry level camera
    the natural step up from the M50 as a wild life smudger is the R5 but i like and need the compactness from the efm lenses at times, it is possible for canon to have the "R7" with a switchable efm / RF mount itself as the mount would effectively be the "adapter" supplying the camera either with efm or rf mount and have the other on the option to buy
    as for buffer lag on continuous burst i shoot jpeg so its not an issue for me
    great little camera, esp for the price point and size of the system, does everything from 2mm macro on the sensor to 1200mm+ planetary
    if the R7 can use ef-m lenses i'll probably get one and maybe change to that keeping the M50 for light weight dressy carries, if it cant use efm lenses then i may get one just to use with the bigger wildlife lenses
    iso wise keeping it under 640 for zoom lenses but it seems to handle 2000 iso on sigma prime art lenses like the 105mm ƒ1.4
    also with iso filling the frame so you don't need to crop helps alot,
    i shoot song birds and other birds like crows jays woodpeckers, also had alot of fun shooting british bats in flight, boy they make shooting birds in flight easy!!
    foxes, great for those too, macro wildlife, again great, of coarse the cavet to this is i've not used a FF or higher level camera yet, and to be honest i don't need to yet, i'd need to upgrade storage and computer equipment for an R5/7 because i would be then shooting raw, as a hobby / amateur i dont need raw yet so i can keep files smaller and i like shooting for the final image getting it as close to as possible in camera
    i may be getting a canon pixma 200 printer in the near future so that will see me shooting raw for sure but i'll probably keep to jpeg only on the M50 for continuous wildlife
    for anyone getting into wild life the M50 with the efm 18-150mm and sigma ef 100-400mm will keep you happy for a long time esp if you are starting from scratch
    if you are an already experienced wildlife shooter you will want the R5, or R6 as they have great wild life abilities and aids

    • @Cherishthamoment
      @Cherishthamoment 2 роки тому +2

      This was sooooo helpful, thanks soooo much

    • @PaulMiguelPhotography
      @PaulMiguelPhotography  2 роки тому +4

      Amazing info! Thanks for sharing. Many of my viewers will find this information invaluable. Cheers Laura!

    • @nomadictimbo9185
      @nomadictimbo9185 2 роки тому +1

      This has really helped my decision in purchasing a Sigma 100-400mm for my M50 MK ii. Is it true that it into a maximum focal length of just over 600mm because of the crop factor? If so, awesome!

    • @shauryasahu6062
      @shauryasahu6062 5 місяців тому

      @messylaura
      Such a helpful comment!!
      Just wanted to reconfirm if servo mode autofocus works fine or not ?
      Also can you share your settings?
      I am planing to buy 150-600 Sigma for my m50 mark ii

    • @shauryasahu6062
      @shauryasahu6062 5 місяців тому

      ​@@nomadictimbo9185hey,
      Can you share your experience with Sigma lens on m50 mark ii, ?

  • @TheAfricanChronicles
    @TheAfricanChronicles 2 роки тому +6

    I find the Canon M50 very versatile for a level entry camera, and I'm loving it. I'm aware of its limitations so I'm dealing with it. I'm looking forward to see what the Canon R7 and R10 have to offer.

    • @SleepyWolvy
      @SleepyWolvy Рік тому

      what do you feel are its limitations? I'm new to photography and looking at either this or Sony A6100. Looking to shoot landscape, wildlife, and astrophotgraphy

  • @CarlosHernandez-kg8py
    @CarlosHernandez-kg8py 2 роки тому +13

    Once you try the R6/R5, you will never go back to 1Dx or any other DSLR. You will increase the number of keepers.

  • @jeffolson4731
    @jeffolson4731 2 роки тому +3

    For wildlife I use my Canon M6 MK II and my Sigma 150-600 Contemporary. I get pretty good results. Wildlife photography is a hobby for me, not a livelihood, so I am perfectly happy with the results I get, especially for the price. The focus is better than my DSLR.
    I carry several batteries with me.
    I am hopeful that Canon releases the R7 with a APS-C sensor. At that point I will change my setup.

  • @Stuffed007
    @Stuffed007 2 роки тому +3

    If you looking for something light then the Canon m6 mark ii with its 32.5 mega pixel crop sensor is perfect for wildlife photography, and it had great image quality, I also own a r6 and I woukd say images are comparable to the m6 mark ii 😊..

  • @philipwatson2443
    @philipwatson2443 2 роки тому +1

    I would be interested in seeing you compare a Nikon D4/5 or 6 DSLR against the Canon 1 DX and hear your thoughts

  • @armadilllo
    @armadilllo Рік тому +1

    One problem is hand holding a non stabilized 400mm lens which is now 640mm on crop, you should have shutter speed at about 600-800, 100 for every 100 mm is a good rule of thumb but yep, low light is difficult.

  • @SomeonewithaSony
    @SomeonewithaSony 2 роки тому +2

    I think the lag has been improved with the newer cameras. I switched from Canon 90D to the Sony a7r3 and I found the lag a little frustrating; you do get used to it, though and I never notice it anymore.

  • @lesandisdream5290
    @lesandisdream5290 2 роки тому +2

    The main issue for me is the performance at low light. The high iso is not the best on this camera. Needless to say, once you get use to the limitations, is a great entry point camera.

  • @brianstark3578
    @brianstark3578 2 роки тому +5

    Basically, ignore the whole full frame and crop sensor thing. 10-22mm on a crop sensor is not the same as a 17-40 on a full frame camera. 22mm on a crop sensor looks exactly the same as 22mm on a full frame sensor, only the edges of the picture are removed. It's CROP, not MAGNIFY.

  • @toms2145
    @toms2145 2 роки тому +2

    Awesome video, Paul. ✌️❤️ I once had the M50 but was less than impressed with it. In retrospect, the camera was great, but the operator (me) had a different mindset. I kept looking at what other people had and assumed my gear was the issue. It took upgrading to an EOS R to see that you can still take a ‘bad’ picture with a ‘nicer’ camera. What a humbling slap to the face that was. Since then, I feel I’ve actually grown as a photographer. I love seeing people take amazing photos with ‘older’ gear. It always reminds me of what that M50 taught me. Anyway, that’s the end of my pointless story.
    - See you somewhere in nature.

    • @PaulMiguelPhotography
      @PaulMiguelPhotography  2 роки тому +1

      That wasn't a pointless story at all Tom. Cameras like this are good to learn with. I love seeing people take great photos with older gear too.. I really do!!

  • @jamesbrooks4125
    @jamesbrooks4125 Рік тому

    Yeah that lag would worry me because I shoot moving subjects thanks for that lnfo

  • @Andy_Thomas
    @Andy_Thomas 2 роки тому +2

    Great video - definitely worth giving that camera lens combination a try.
    I have a broadly equivalent full-frame set-up: EOS RP with a f/11 800mm lens (800mm is good for birds, 600mm is better for general wildlife). This seems to be a good budget, light-weight set-up, which is not too taxing when out walking/hiking and photographing wildlife at the same time.

  • @JohnDrummondPhoto
    @JohnDrummondPhoto 2 роки тому +3

    If the EF 400mm F/5.6L were stabilized, I'd still have it. It's a much better lens than the M50 is a body. I've moved on to the R5 and R6 and RF 100-500. For birding, there's just no comparison.

    • @cerealkiller4248
      @cerealkiller4248 2 роки тому +2

      I have the R6 and a Mk1 500/4. Thanks to the R6 IBIS I can now hand hold this combo, my 7D 500/4 no chance.

  • @tonyturner7676
    @tonyturner7676 2 роки тому +1

    Fascinating video, Paul. Having followed your channel for some time, I would suggest that, watching your videos on a large screen TV, the images from the M50 are not a patch on your superb images from your 1 DX.

    • @PaulMiguelPhotography
      @PaulMiguelPhotography  2 роки тому +1

      Cheers Tony. I never watch myself on a big screen.. but I can see the difference in the RAW files, as I'd expect.

  • @desf8433
    @desf8433 Рік тому

    I used my M50 for powerboats (which tested the auto focus). One day with the Canon Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS II. The focusing worked very well. The next day I used my 5diii with my Canon 300mm f4L IS and 1.4 extender which was superb. When I've used the 300 mm f4L IS with the M50 I've had problems with the autofocus (it works if I manually assist it to within a couple of yards first!) and I contacted Canon Support. They tried it with the same setup and had the same problem. The conclusion was that tele lenses used through the adapter, which is a Canon one, have this problem. The M50 works flawlessly with my Canon EF 70-300mm f/4-5.6 IS II and only has a focusing problem with the Canon 300mm f4L IS but If I turn the image stabilisation off the problem goes away and everything works perfectly. I know the lens you were using doesn't have IS, but I thought I'd mention it.
    Love the channel BTW Paul.

  • @MisterJuanPH
    @MisterJuanPH 2 роки тому +1

    I used M50 Mk I in Bird photo i paired it with EF-300mm F4L was able to take a close up sharp photo of a Bulbul i really love the combination with the lens as it is much lighter than my 5DMk2 and 1DMk3... i also use it with my EF2x II its a bit soft but atleast the AF works but slow... i expiremented it using a speedbooster was able to get those extra stop but the image is quite soft..

  • @Karkawry1970
    @Karkawry1970 2 роки тому +1

    Interesting stuff, maybe if there was stabilisation on the lens, you had a tripod and maybe a lighter prime, the results could be a bit more comparable to the 1DX?

    • @PaulMiguelPhotography
      @PaulMiguelPhotography  2 роки тому +1

      I am going to try some more with this camera. See what I can get out of it.

  • @paulbaldwin2290
    @paulbaldwin2290 2 роки тому +2

    Great video as usual Paul 👍good review but look forward to your usual quality photos 👌would you buy this?

    • @PaulMiguelPhotography
      @PaulMiguelPhotography  2 роки тому +1

      Cheers Paul. You can clearly see the quality difference then? I wouldn't buy it myself for wildlife, but I'm going to see if i can get more out of it.

  • @salvatorepapadello4450
    @salvatorepapadello4450 2 роки тому +1

    Take the R6! 👌 it’s just perfect for the money 💰

  • @Photoandcargeek
    @Photoandcargeek Рік тому

    I have tried the same thing but with my M50 and 70-300 L lens.
    There are a few mistakes in your video though, on the handling of the M50, it isn't clear what you call lag (it is really the delay between the viewfinder and reality and the delay between pressing the shutter and the picture being taken, not between switching on and the camera being ready, that would be more boot time than lag).
    Also the M50 can produce fantastic images, just as sharp and beautiful as a full frame (I have a couple of 5Ds and an R5) but of course dynamic range and low light noise are a bit higher so you have to manage if possible. But the other big issue is that EF full frame lenses were never developed for the pixel density of APS-C cameras, some will cope well, some won't. Your 400 should be ok and better than many other lenses (long fixed focal lenses are generally sharper because easier to design) but you might see a hit in performance. For info, the 45Mpix R5 in crop mode becomes 17.? Mpix hence the M50 is far more demanding than the R5. So imagine the R7 with 32 Mpix (that is much more demanding than a full frame 60Mpix!). At the moment I don't think Canon has a single lens that can cope with the R7.
    Also, you probably could have used Servo focusing on some situations, it works pretty well on the M50, not R3 or R5 levels but genuinely pretty good.

  • @terryroth2855
    @terryroth2855 2 роки тому

    Good review Paul. I pretty much did the same testing with my M50 and got pretty much the same results. On mine, I did find that it would autofocus with my Sigma 150-600 with 1.4VIII extender, albeit, not very fast. What I really do like though, is that, for me it works very well for landscape photos, mostly using a tripod and using liveview and focusing at 5X or 10X.

  • @tysonator5433
    @tysonator5433 2 роки тому +1

    I agree with Carlos, once you use R5 or R6 you do not want to use any other Canon camera !
    I owed a 7Dii and I was believe Canon should have done a better job with the sensor. I have put my Sony NEX5R on my Canon L lenses for wildlife shoots. Though it is only 16MP THE iQ is quite good, however the screw on evf is mildly OK, the focusing is painfully slow, the AF tracking is slow. The 7Dii is a dream to use and Iove to bits and if I had the money I would get the R5 or R6 as eye detection is the best thing ever !

  • @paulhopkinson9380
    @paulhopkinson9380 9 місяців тому +1

    I'm looking at getting a longer lens for my M50 (mk1), mainly for wildlife photography at the entry level of course. The lens that stands out the most for me is the Sigma 150-600 Contemporary, which I am umming and arrring on at the moment. I'm off to the Somerset levels in a couple of weeks, so need to upgrade from the M50 stock 200mm lens. The Sigma lens is a block of money for around £850, but still my personal best option when cost is an issue. 🤔

    • @PaulMiguelPhotography
      @PaulMiguelPhotography  9 місяців тому +1

      I think for the cost, that lens is very reasonable. I don't have experience of it with the M50 though. My advice is not to put a filter on the end - it can affect quality.

    • @TheDevonArtist
      @TheDevonArtist 9 місяців тому

      Thank you for your kind advice @@PaulMiguelPhotography

    • @shauryasahu6062
      @shauryasahu6062 5 місяців тому +1

      Did you buy the Sigma lense? Is good at capturing moving birds ?

    • @TheDevonArtist
      @TheDevonArtist 5 місяців тому

      @@shauryasahu6062 I did buy the Sigma lens and love it! Excellent sharp picture, but with my M50 I still need good light. So far I'm not experienced with panning for moving birds, I've tried without success even with higher shutter speeds, but that's simply just me and my terrible eyesight for not spotting things and following them quick enough. 😂 I do use a tripod, but on the Somerset Levels used a monopod for convenience.

  • @johnpouw3352
    @johnpouw3352 2 роки тому +1

    I might be wrong but couldn't you have the camera in Manual mode, but Auto ISO. That way you set your shutter speed and aperture and let the ISO do what it wants - this would get around your minimum shutter speed problem in a way. Again, I am not sure as I haven't tried on a Canon camera yet but it's how I have used Nikons and Sonys in the past. Thanks for the video :)

    • @PaulMiguelPhotography
      @PaulMiguelPhotography  2 роки тому

      Yes, you can do this John it's a good way to expose. I think with this camera I' concerned about the ISO going too high.. but actually your suggestion might work here.

  • @joncothranphotography9375
    @joncothranphotography9375 2 роки тому +1

    I am accustom to a single point, back-button, AF. Does the M50 offer a back-button AF at all? I am hesitant to move to the mirrorless due to these issues as well as the need for adapters for my lens'. Thanks so much for your prospective!

    • @PaulMiguelPhotography
      @PaulMiguelPhotography  2 роки тому +1

      Hi Jon. Yes, you can configure buttons to use BBF. This wasn't a proper review, but it highlights some potential issues.

    • @joncothranphotography9375
      @joncothranphotography9375 2 роки тому

      @@PaulMiguelPhotography Ok! Thanks! It just seems that using BBF would solve some of the focus issues.

  • @joecronin5017
    @joecronin5017 2 роки тому +1

    always love your videos ,go mirrorless r5 or r6 buy used for better price

  • @Fell_Wanderer
    @Fell_Wanderer 2 роки тому +1

    Dude, I adapted a full frame Conon 70-300 lens onto a cropped sensor, Canon 500D and results were disapointing, compared to a dedicated APS-C lens. The M50 is great for vlogging camera and I suspect most of the bad image quality for you is down to adapting a full frame lens onto a cropped censored camera where image is softer than you are used too.

  • @ryanwemyss6567
    @ryanwemyss6567 2 роки тому +1

    Try an R6 or R5 Paul. Game changer, you wont be disappointed

  • @WalkontheWildlifeSide
    @WalkontheWildlifeSide 2 роки тому +1

    I had used the canon M50 with my canon 100-400 and it was great at the time, only i had bought a cheaper mount to pair them up together and i found the communication between the camera and lens didn't always happen and I missed out on some good shots. I had the canon M50 for about 13 months and it just broke on me, i left it in to get fixed and motherboard was gone so it was useless. I really miss the canon M50 as i thought it was a great wee mirrorless.

    • @PaulMiguelPhotography
      @PaulMiguelPhotography  2 роки тому +1

      Appreciate your experiences. Thanks. I'm gonna try this again, possibly with a 300mm f4.

  • @timothylabrecque8589
    @timothylabrecque8589 2 роки тому +1

    Been considering doing the same thing for the lighter days out. Until canon rolls out a mirrorless crop sensor with the capabilities of my 90d thats not too pricey ill stick with my dslr

  • @marksuchomelsr6698
    @marksuchomelsr6698 2 роки тому

    Hey Paul. I’m on short trip and have my Canon M 5 and M 6 with me to save some weight. I brought my version 1 70-200 2.8 in case I had a chance to photograph some birds. I was able to grab some shots of a Cardinal using the one shot AF. I did have some instances where the back ground was complicated, the camera would not focus. It’s not my first choice, but it did show that on trips like this I can rely on these cameras for bird wildlife photography.

  • @shotsphoto
    @shotsphoto 2 роки тому +1

    A great body with high potential to get very good results. Looks a bit funny and flippy combined with big lenses, but still works great. Thumb down for high ISO working.

  • @DuckMisty
    @DuckMisty 2 роки тому +1

    Perhaps you're being a little ambitious, hand holding a 640mm lens with no stabilization? Using the touch screen to select an initial focus point can work well.

  • @laku4412
    @laku4412 2 роки тому +1

    Thanks for the review, I was considering it as a small little aps-c option... maybe not so much anymore ;) I'm reeeeaally curious about your reaction when you get your hands on a R3/5/6. ^^ As much as I love my 1Dx ii, the R5 blew me away. Autofocus is brilliant and the ISO is pushable to 1Dx realms. I'm sure in your hands, it would take even better pictures than in mine. :)

  • @gainde1137
    @gainde1137 Рік тому

    I just started with M50 and a 55-250mm lens (APS-C). Next would maybe be a 100-400mm lens. I prefer to walk around and not use a tripod.

  • @Bill-NM
    @Bill-NM Рік тому +1

    Can't hold it stable - isn't that pretty much because of lack of both in-body and lens stabilization?

  • @RichFreeman
    @RichFreeman 2 роки тому +2

    The M50 was a nice little camera for its price. The sensor competed with more expensive cameras like the 80D.
    It obviously can't be compared with a professional grade camera like the 1DX.
    Mirrorless is fairly new and there is simply no comparison between models from a few years ago and recent ones. Likewise between $2k+ models and ones that are not.
    The R5 EVF is a complete revolution for wildlife compared to any previous Canon body. Of course Sony has had a few good models as well, and it sounds like Nikon is catching up as well.

  • @Monique.1709
    @Monique.1709 2 роки тому +1

    I don't think it is fair to compare the M50 with a full frame camera. I was always interested in photography but "scared" for the different lenses and stuff with a dslr, but with my M50 I really learned to photograph, it is an easy camera for beginners with very nice results when you are just using it for making pictures of family, flowers in the zoo etc. It gave me much reliance in how to use a dslr, the aperture, ISO and shutter speed, as you can see everything on your display. With the adapter you can use EF lenses that are easy to find on marketplaces etc, so the beginner doesn't have to put to much money in making nice pictures. After the M50 I bought a 70D which I really liked and I liked the photo's more that that camera made, but I don't think I could have managed that camera as a first dslr. I now have a RP and I want to buy a R6 or R5 this summer. A long story but to be short I think it is an amazing little camera to start with as it is a very forgiving camera as it is hard to make really bad photo's with it imo.

    • @PaulMiguelPhotography
      @PaulMiguelPhotography  2 роки тому

      I agree with so much of what you said there. A camera like this can really help to learn your craft.. and not break the bank. Thanks for sharing Monique.

  • @peterbarby9251
    @peterbarby9251 2 роки тому

    Back in November last year, I was toying with the idea of buying one of the M50. Watched a few videos on UA-cam and decided to go for a 1DX mk2 instead. Yes it is a very heavy camera but the image quality is stunning. My 1DX is now surplus to requirement. Yes, the shutter is noisy, but if you're not shooting in long bursts, you can get away with it. I've photographed a kingfisher close to the hide I was in with a quick burst with no problems. An interesting video non the less. As others have already stated, if you shot with an R5 or an R6, you may have had better results. Even more so with an R3, but for me, I'm happy with my 1DX mk2, weight and all. Weather permitting, I'll be heading to Bempton on Wednesday. Hoping to see if the Puffins have returned. Anyways, take care mate

    • @PaulMiguelPhotography
      @PaulMiguelPhotography  2 роки тому

      Thanks for your thoughts Peter. I sometimes realise just how good the DXs actually are!

  • @shells4u
    @shells4u 2 роки тому

    I enjoy your videos

  • @rjakiel73
    @rjakiel73 Рік тому

    Don’t shoot RAW when shooting moving targets shoot JPEG. You’ll have a much higher chance of a sharp photo

  • @41stclair
    @41stclair 2 роки тому +1

    get a r5 0r r6 already !!!!!

  • @thomassiegers3007
    @thomassiegers3007 2 роки тому

    Bad camera for wildlife photography