The American Reckoning With Knowing Better | Conversations With Joe Ep 4
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- Опубліковано 30 кві 2022
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Today I talk with KB, the creator behind the UA-cam channel Knowing Better, about his experience as a UA-camr that covers social/political content, the shifts he's made in his thinking over the years informed by his experience in the military and as an educator, and the reckoning the US is currently experiencing over the more unsavory elements of our collective past.
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I seriously love KB, his perspective and depth when doing videos is refreshing.
I only discovered him after the PHENOMENAL “neoslavery” video like a week ago, but wow is his stuff great and I have binge watched most of it already.
KB, Preston Jacobs & Joe are my three favorite UA-camrs!!!
The realisation of how the world really works is always a revelation the older I get ..54 and the surprises just keep on coming
1) This conversation was a delight 2) So glad to see in the comments how many of us are already fans of both (in my case I literally started following the two channels on the very same week, somewhere in the middle of 2018)
Two of my favorite UA-cam creators in one spot! Love it!
Totally agree! A couple of my favourites in one spot - amazing!
Me too ❤️
Listening to KB reminds me of my own youth, Ayn Rand reading, Boy Scout, who joined the service at Seventeen. As I close in on fifty, I’m left of Bernie Sanders, all for a UBI, and single payer health care. Thanks to both of you for a great conversation.
KB is such a great human. I give so much respect to him.
A wonderful discussion between two thoughtful educators. Thanks you guys for all the content!
I think this is the most important UA-cam video you have made so far, incredibly important topics.
Do not think it is negative to discover that you have made a mistake and that society is not the way you want it to be portrayed.
It never gets better if no one does anything about it.
Hope you continue to educate and shake up trust in society. The United States needs it.
Best regards from Norway
Just came from your most recent video Joe and I was so excited when I heard you did an episode with KB because I just started bingeing his channel and I loved it. Y’all’s talk together was wonderful. The depth you both went into was really informative
Wow!, Big fans of both your channels. This was a great Conversation. The topic about Race, and War were very educating.
Now this is the crossover I needed lol, love both your channels
KB is surprisingly more soft-spoken than I would have imagined. How pleasant. 🙂
it has a surreal feeling to see you guys talking to each other. it's like my worlds are colliding.
2 of my favorites together. Thank you Joe and KB. This will be watched by me many times I am sure
I remember being 22 and realizing this. I appreciate Joe's push back and I enjoyed the conversation.
Wow this was incredibly awesome
Pod cast heaven. My two fav UA-camrs. 💞👍😎
Two of my favorite creators in one video. Can't wait to listen to this!
Quick tip Joe, could you please add KB’s channel to the description (and do so for other videos too in this series if you haven’t)?
The best one yet, ya'll make a great duo, both so softspoken, have listened to this one like 5 times now.
I listen to this on the pod cast a few months back and it was definitely worthwhile to hear the content again!
I loved KB's video on Smedley Butler (the video about the military industrial complex). Coincidentally, Johnny Harris made a similar video but focused on bananas.
I love this, love both of you guys and this is top notch!
Two of my favorite UA-camrs together, I can die happy! I love Joe's channels, but was kind of skeptical of this long form podcast style teased in some of the regular videos, but when I heard there was a "sit down" with KB, I had to check it out. If you find yourself reading this, Joe, thanks for uploading this to UA-cam, proving me wrong, and showing me what I'm missing out on--cool stuff!
I really appreciate the work both of you do.
I love both of these channels so much. So amped rn
Love both of your content. Yal both help my brain from turning to jelly. Great to see a conversation between you two. Its really a shame that folks have to be creepy and ruin fan interaction. Thanks again.
Thanks Joe and KB!
Absolutely love this format, great work.
Admittedly i lean left, KB is a very wise individual it was a pleasure to listen, i was slightly apprehensive.. but its refreshing to hear an educated individual discuss these topics.
The Columbus video is the reason i subscribed to knowing better.
Now I know what to put on my tombstone. "She was a productive member of society."
Excellent interview. Excellent guest.
GREAT CONVERSATION!!!
Loved this conversation
Thank you for your time and effort
My 2 favourite youtubers, love it
I LIKE BOTH YOUR CHANNELS!!!
St. Helens, Oregon, 35 miles from Portland, +-1962 I asked my Dad "what does the sign at both ends of town on Hwy 30 that says we enforce the Green River ordinance mean?"
He replied " Son it means N&_$$r get your ass out of town before sunset." Those signs stayed there for another ten years and to this day, though the signs are gone, the attitude is not.
Only an American would think the Civil War "is a long time ago"... Young Nation Syndrome right there 😉
1:41:00 Oh that's why I love KB's channel...
My mother lived in a company town. She and her family came to America after WWII from Crete, Greece. She, her parents and 8 siblings lived in a coal mining town in Carbon county, Utah in a 2 room house with an outhouse.
Thank you for pointing out Carlos Maza’s piece on CRT!
I was a Vet, use to think like KB.
Been to Ukraine for several months, helped with evacs.
and now the Hero thing is real again, but this time, it is about people I know that didn't make it home.
They are the heroes.
and war never ends, just changes location.
Great conversation I love the neoslavery video
I never knew who KB was… I’ve had his Starship Troopers recommended to me several times, but am always leery of some things that show up. I seem to get both far right and far recommendations… so I trust nothing. I like his views and thoughts here, so I’ll have to follow up with him.
WE LOVE YOU!
I know the Fraiser episode you're referring to and I like it also.
Been enjoying a lot of KB, neat to see a different side!
Also holy crap, thank you for turning me onto Contrapoints!
Joe, joe is a man in Dallas, Texas. Who makes great UA-cam videos. Answer's With Joe is the Daddy, TMI is the kiddo and Mammy is Conversations with Joe(saphine) 😂😂😂👍💚🇮🇪
44:34 "Is it like a lot a boredom mixed in with moments of terrifying.... or maybe not even that?" Haha loved that.
Atlas and P-Body! Cracking Portal reference KB!
Oh and Wheatley! ;)
21:36 I watch Answers with Joe every Monday night. And then Jay Leno’s Garage.
Felt a bit called out by KB, when he said that with his videos he targets "People who think that they are centrists".. ouchie.. but then I remembered that I'm from Europe.. so that means something a bit different.. anyways love both of these channels, even though KB's videos are often necessarily "somewhat" depressing..
28:58 Pause… I knew he would say that!
Perspective is a growth of individual mind set.
THEREFORE
When a individual has been born in a multitude of Genetic makeup. and the final skin is and was
accepted In your environment . Then
Excepting and Acknowledge and Respecting is the clearway for a individual
Path to being RECEPTIVE..
Being negative is NEVER A
OPENING to the CHANGES
In search of the Unknown was the TV series. Leonard Nimoy was the host.
Would love to see an in-person meetup version of this.
Speaking of Science Communicator Sceptics, I would be very interested to see you have a conversation with Philip at Thunderfoot. He has a knack for debunking with an actual experiment, through the scientific method.
Also, my temporary exotic pet obsession was the sugar glider.
Lol thunderfoot fans are exactly the kind of angry fans that I'm sure KB doesn't want to engage with
@@TheOneTrueAnthemis angry? Mostly I think the average TF fan is bewildered by the average Elon disciple. Though, I haven’t bothered to go across to the apologist sites, to see how that version of the conversation.
Cutting Edge Journalism. There seems to be no end to Joe's Talents/Wheel house. That ship must be as big as a super carrier. Goods Works Aulds Chaps 😂😂😂☮️💪👍😃😎🇮🇪💚💞
So ContraPoints hasn't put out a video in 8 months. Social balade reports on the 7th of last month she gained 10k subs. Would that be the original air date of this interview? Inform KB shoutouts do in fact have an effect.
Make no mistake. There are sundown towns in existence TODAY. This is not something that’s over.
As a viewer please add links in the discretion for shout outs. Searches don't always work.
People need to get out they comfort zone to understand how others feel
1:43:34 That’s why I usually write one sentence comments.
La Porte d'Argent!
Oh, wow. Creepy. Had no idea. Stay safe out there guys.
Joe as a (contrast?)or comparison of Texan wars, you should look into the New Zealand wars. Bet not many of your viewers have this knowledge. You guys aren't the only messed up country... Just the most.
The rest of the world has zero clue about New Zealand's dramatic internal wars.
1:22:33 If you look for something, then you will find it.
I saw the Knowing Better episode about slavery and Jim Crow. You pointed out that the last case of legal slavery was in 1942. There was a reason for the civil rights movement. We have made a lot of progress in 80 years. Of course we still have privilege, but how much is due to race and how much to wealth and celebrity? How many of us accused of murdering your ex-wife and her boyfriend would be told , "just drive your Ford Bronco by when you get a chance, and we'll set you up."
Um, slavery is still legal. There’s an exception in the 13th Amendment that specifically allows it: convicted criminals are considered legal slaves. At least as far as the Constitution goes. I think some states have laws completely banning it.
Smedley Butler's ghost
I feel like I've done something really wrong in my life for not knowing KB till last week, that you suggested to go watch his video about company towns. I'm only 15 minutes in the video, where you say that shout-out is not helpful.
IT IS.
Please don't stop shouting out to content creators that you like. UA-cam algorithm is really bad. We rely on you. We trust you.
I do enjoy this conversation. Having said that when KB briefly touched on free speech in my opinion he is wrong. He doesn’t understand that the Supreme Court has consistently ruled against the restriction of free speech obviously something that’s already illegal would not be allowed but that’s because it’s already illegal.
Allow me to point to a mistake if I may. Things that change or evolve with time, are not always bound to all associations that were linked to their starting point or their origins.
Every conspiracy theory nuts fall for that.
Let me offer an analogy: you have a backpack that you used to use to carry your sweaty clothes.
Then you stopped using it for that usage and for the longest time have been using that backpack to other things that are no longer related to the original use. That backpack will be known as "my gym backpack" only by you, because in reality it is no longer your gym backpack.
And to put an end to the story, when you die, if you did not spend your whole life referring to your general use backpack as your gym backpack, if you let that "association" to die, your son will see your backpack and maybe take it home and show to his kids: this is grampa's backpack.
When the reality of usage is terminated, the former relationships of meaning are also terminated when those maintaining those associations stop doing it.
All of us have the genes that are related to the worse scum on the planet. All institutions are associated with evil, all countries only exist because of bloodshed, all power was only established by violence IN THE PAST. Its up for us now to make it better. Do you think the indians that the americans "murdered" did not murder each other and tribes did not fight each other, shedding each other's blood, before the americans arrived? The reason why power is established is to stop the bloodshed, but the establishment of power itself requires bloodshed. Things come to us, from the world in which they existed. Its up for us to do what we can to reduce human suffering.
Aside from reducing needless suffering, there is no reason to judge anything morally regarding their origins because everything come from the same stock. Unless that thing continues somehow to enforce those negative values.
America is America. Its not the good guys neither the bad guys. Its a country and like every other country, in their own specific way, established in violence and bloodshed. We humans, have not found yet a way to establish power without causing some level of oppression. A thing must not be forever bound to its origins, else we will not be able to produce the kind of incremental progress that we must. That is true for you as a person and for all things that evolve and can be changed with time.
In the specific case of racism, victory is not having all those institutions destroyed, which have in the past allowed for racism. But victory is to occupy them, and change them for the better, with the goal of reducing human suffering, and not the goal of fulfilling some ideology. Because ideologies are also murderous and evil.
Apparently you didn't listen to the bit where they both said they ignore walls of text. Rationality usually falls on deaf ears.
@@PalimpsestProd How many words or letters constitute a wall of text? Opinions vary. But you are right, I wasted my time there.
36:15 I’m not sure that America is the best place ever. It’s a hell of a lot better than some other places.
10:56 Like Gwen Stefani.
NEVER !
juvenile records can be sealed, adult convictions can be in expunged. in some states, anyway, Texas is not one of them.
History and engineering need to be taught more.
Historical context is so important!
And maths should be taught using engineering.
Starship Troopers is a satire of the gung-ho 80's action movies and their culture of testosterone silliness! :)
I wouldn't include it in with the Michael Bay style, military worship movies, its message is the opposite really...
I guess I'm one of the few that does not enjoy KB's work, however he does seem pretty civil.
Bailey Sarian is BIGGER than you two COMBINED ! :P thats .... .... MORE ! XD
1:33:52 “You’re more of a science channel”. Don’t you mean “You make a science channel”? (Referring to earlier I am a teacher; I am a …)
Anybody else notice Joe looks like Nostalgia Critic?
Gifted and talented programs - you hear them compared to special needs classes because the GT kids are expected to get through their work quicker and be bored (and badly behaved) if more work isn't available
23:54 What do you consider racist?
Ok, but come on, KB having wanted to teach gifted classes, only to later realise the system wasn't really fair, doesn't mean he was racist (or anyone in a similar situatuon)
Whatever happened to Our Ludicrous Future ?!?
Keeping ferrets caged isn't for me- I've always let mine run free- but they are anything but a part time pet if you do so. They're like little monkeys- they can get into anything- they can squeeze through tiny spaces, they can open cabinet doors, they can turn the faucet on and off, etc. - I had to literally ferret proof my home. Every morning they wake me up at 6 am on the dot- dancing on my chest and chattering like little squirrels- they want to be turned out. I have a series of tubes that run from inside the house to a cage outside- and they want to get in the tubes and play. They chase one another and wrestle- I love my ferrets, they're awesome. I have an albino named Cha Cha and a regular grey/black colored ferret named Tricks.
38:48 Having obscene language on your vehicle is not cool. It’s also disrespectful to say F- - - Biden/Trump/Nixon/John Adams/whomever.
Seems like "do what they say," is pretty good advice for dealing with the police. In a lot of videos with police shooting someone, the person who is shot was resisting arrest.
Ignorance is bliss isnt it david
Or holding a phone or looking scared while black, or being in the way somehow.
@@jackprier7727 Resisting arrest puts the police in a difficult position. Personally, I would say let the guy escape, take down his license and issue a bench warrant. But if you escape and harm someone else, you know that someone else will sue the police.
This is true. It's also pretty good advice when you wake up to a home invasion. Resisting a robbery makes you way more likely to die. Also, I've almost been shot for DOING what the police told me, cause they weren't communicating with each other. The fact that a person has to enter an encounter with the police thinking, "How do I survive this?" means things are far past the point of tolerance. The shenanigans and outright illegal behavior, or immoral behavior codified into law, puts people in a position far, far too close to the same as dealing with a violent criminal. Doing the right thing, not submitting to thugs doing immoral and often actually illegal things, is punishable by death.
Hah, KB, yes I remember be offended by your Libertarian video, but its okay.
Zamn only 222 views?
He just posted it less than a day ago, used to be a Patreon-only series but he just made some free for everyone to view and this was one of them.
Hi Joe, I'm really enjoying the new channel...I know that you gave a content warning before the video, but I still had to comment on some of the topics. When you made a said your friend won't buy a tesla by he will get pulled over?!? I realize it's antidotal, but it's still not accurate. Cadillac, Lincoln, BMW, Mercedes and Lexus have been popular in the black community for generations.
It depends on where you live I reckon. It may be “anecdotal”, but it’s not all that unusual to hear stories like Joe’s in the South.
One other thing...I don't understand why anyone wouldn't explain to their kids what to do if they get pulled over. My dad was clear when I got my license, and I had the same conversation when my kid got a license. Skin color doesn't matter at all, and data supports that (see the FBI stats.) If you don't believe me, check out what Thomas Sowell and Larry Elder have to say about it.
You kids are cute. Disillusioned but cute. The next step is going to be fun for you. Hopefully you'll choose the "make the values of the myths into practice" path rather that the path of resentment, anger, and virtue signaling but that's for you to choose.
I took the "This is the way things are and there's probably a not a whole lot that I can do about it, so I'm just gonna live my life and not worry about it so much" path. How about you?
This was enlightening. I learned there are a lot of bad apples spoiling the bunch. Also I learned that egos are bigger than I thought, much earlier in the process than I would have thougt possible. I like you and ALL UA-camrs less than I did before. Y'all aint that famous. KB seems full of himself and Joe, you seemed to latch right on to his way of thinking. This guy was a waste of an interview. Nowhere near the caliber of guest you have been having.
Do you think it's possible that Joe, a grown man, already had those opinions and happened to agree with KB on many points? Why did he have to "latch on" to KB? That's an interesting way of putting it, and it betrays a certain way of thinking that you might benefit from exploring.
I found the interview very interesting. You didn't. That's fine, but saying it's a waste suggests you have a very binary way of thinking. I think you need to mellow out a bit, to be honest.
Omg...I thought I was done with my last comment, but the half truths keep coming. I wish you had called KB out on this one. Slavery was absolutely abolished with the 13th ammendment in Dec 1865. His justification for the 13th not being effective is ridiculous. Please point to any other ammendment that outlines a punishment (like serving 10 years) for anyone who breaks the law.
You’re getting caught up with the semantics. They point is they didn’t bother to draft legislation subordinate to the new amendment until the 20th century