Man this was a really good stream. You're over here having good insightful takes on algorithm and mutual gain for business about asmon giving you exposure and all the ways that works. And I thought about it. You're doing what asmon does when he's not gaming, while gaming. Pretty impressive man. I think something I'd really enjoy would be condensed cuts of your livestreams where we could watch you play through the story or experience new parts of the game such as steel path, heck I'd even just like to be pointed at your first time experiencing the requiem lore. I'd guess that would basically be an editors job if its too much busy work. Another channel I enjoy streams a lot and his editor uploads cuts of him playing. Its more digestible than full streams for me. But I've still been really enjoying them, I just dont have time for the full thing most of the time. I'm basically taking multiple days to watch some of the story content and then you're streaming the next thing. I enjoy seeing your experience and takes on what all is going on, its incredibly refreshing as someone who heavily enjoys the lore and has 1k+ hours and you also pick up on things I didnt notice as well. Just tons of thoughts because you mentioned taking in data to learn and grow your channel. So here's 1 viewer's data on a silver platter
personally if i were to recommend a frame for steel path, i’d go Lavos, because you can apply any element you want on his abilities which require no energy and instead run off of a cooldown, which can be shortened by his third ability on Shock proc. also his 4’s damage scales with the amount of statuses applied to the enemy. he works great with an epitaph primer build i don’t exactly know if he’s “low investment” because i’ve got like 3 forma on him and a few Corrupted mods on him, focusing mainly on Duration (which affects the status duration of his abilities) and efficiency (which affects the amount of time the 3’s cooldown reduction will have) and a bit of strength for a lil extra damage
I also have corrupted mods on him, it's kind of essential. But currently I have no forma into him (but an Umbra Forma with his name on it once I get the Endo to keep leveling the set haha), and he does everything but the highest end of SP without flinching. Admittedly I have one tau one regular blue shard into health, and the same into armor (and a regular yellow for casting speed). But with the amount of armor you can get on him, a health tank how old is relatively easy and works well. Around the lvl 150s or so, you're going to want like Arcane Grace, Reaper, and probably Guardian, but with those and the insane healing in his one, he still works quite well. Plus you don't have to build hard into status chance, and can switch your elements as you wish like you mentioned. And he is not too far into the Entrati rep grind.
Congrats on making it to Steel Path LD. Then doing pretty well at that solo, as well. I have enjoyed a lot of your content as of late. Not sure if you will see this, but below is going to be mixed friendly info about various Warframe things. Feel free to ignore if you don't want any tips, but the reason I think it might be helpful, is that Chat is filled with many many people all giving recommendations. Some I think are better than others, but they are all often competing with each other and usually because of the format, well... actual decent explanations will be rare, plus as you have covered before, many people employ self referential logic and reasoning, as opposed to giving you advice so you can make your own personal decisions as relevant to your personal preferences. So below is more intended to actually give more context. You also may already know much of it, or eventually will, but some of it, isn't in the game anyway either. People ether do their own individual testing and crowd share or they look up wikias or YT videos. I'll treat each point as a paragraph if anyone wants to skip any. (Also I am aware this is a bit obnoxiously long for a UA-cam comment, one other alternative is that you can try asking chat "So why is Viral considered so good in the past? What was the meta and why?" etc) "Status Damage" and Status Effect are different. For example, the reason why Viral was (and will likely still be generally good), is because of the status effect it gives. It amplifies damage many enemies will take. Potentially up to 325%. Including other effects, like say Slash or Heat. This is why in many cases in the "recent" past, Viral was more important than say Serration. Most weapon builds, you will usually want some sort of elemental combo. We are experiencing a meta shake up of sorts, so some elemental combos are more viable now, but yeah. Other variables. Multishot is really strong in Warframe. Its not necessarily just a damage increase (2 bullets equals double damage?), since not all damage multipliers are equal in nature. With certain different weapons, the benefits can be greater. Its also why multishot will often be better than say just pure damage (Galvanised Multishot mods vs Serration). You'll still want pure damage with Mods until you can get Arcanes, but yeah. In practice what does that all mean? Well since you are familiar with Burston Incarnon, and Phantasma, lets use them, with some other weapons. A weapon having high status, is one factor, but the weapons fire rate is also really important. Phantasma is a beam weapon (beams can have certain unique traits), its fire rate can be extremely high, so Viral can be okay, but Viral has a cap of 10 stacks. Some elements like Heat don't have that cap, so they can benefit more, if they have high status but also apply status frequently. Some slower firing weapons, may not have advantage, so may be built differently because of that. With those, building for enemy elemental weakness may be more important. Especially since some enemies/bosses may either be status immune or capped on how many statuses they can have inflicted. You'll also have certain mods like Hunter Munitions, which gives weapons with low Slash or no Slash status, a way to inflict Slash more consistently, and in a way independent of its own Slash stats (it uses a different formula). Strong Crit weapons can benefit this way. Though arguably due to recent changes (armour being less stubborn) it may not be as strong as usual. Build variety. One issue with chat is when people are giving recommendations, sometimes such recommendations rely on synergising with each other, and not other peoples recommendations. Those can conflict. Shred, Hunter Munitions, Hammer Shot, going Viral Heat vs just Viral, Galvanised Status, Serration. Or can be really good, but some of these can work better than others. IIRC Burston's Incarnon mode also already comes with Heat, so you don't need to build Heat for that mod... but the main mod won't, so you might like to build for it, especially if you use the Galvanised Status mod... since thats another element to boost your damage. Alternatively Viral enhances Slash and Burston Incarnon has great Crit stats so.... Its basically up to your personal discretion and preference. One last thing to consider with status though, and Warframe, is weapons can scale differently. Ignis Wraith is a great weapon in the star chart, but it starts to fall off faster in Steel Path. Where as the Phantasma Prime will hold up better generally. Some weapons, and some builds may not kill an enemy outright, but you will kill them with DOTS, and you may have to start to relying on conditional temporary effects (as you started to see with Galvanised Mods). So when testing, thats always good to remember. Hope you enjoy Tennocon mate! All the best!
Oh also with the "he missed the train" thing, first i think some people in chat/comments get way too precious about such moments. Yeah its a cool moment, but its replicable. They are talking about a moment in the quest, where you enter a large tile, and, if you know, you know... but the game designers probably wanted you to walk towards the camera's general direction, the way it was set up, that way, you would see a large teleporting New York style subway exit one portal and enter another. You will come across that particular tile again, and you can also UA-cam it if you somehow don't. Thing is, some people have what I will affectionately refer to as JRPG/RPG brain. Which means... you never take the story progression or obvious path first... You always check corners and side routes, so if you see a large room thats intuitively trying to encourage you to go through the middle, many of us will instinctively fight against that, and go to the less obvious side paths, the darker corners to the sides, the smaller stairs to the sides etc to explore first. You missed the moment ether due to that, or because you were just that taken by awe by the architecture of the tile set, which IMO is actually pretty awesome and probably more indicative of your joy at the experience of playing. You "missed the scripted moment" because you were so engaged and in awe of the little details and architecture of the tile sets. Thats pretty cool. Plus Whispers is Replayable now anyway, and streaming games with the eyes and voices of others is also a general added pressure most people don't have to contend with when they play such quests. Keep up the good work!
Saryn lives because gloom has life leech and your spores tick all the time and fills your hp so you need to keep up your spores up, your 3 and gloom to live and kill, if you dont use your abilities you die on any warframe :D well maybe not on inaros :D
Welp, TIL that every person I've ever heard say Titania including in all but one production have been saying it the generally considered incorrect way. I saw it in a Shakespeare festival, that I'm sure is that it was said correctly, that was just 9 years ago and I guess I managed to miss it then. My life is a lie, I wonder why it's different in the game, and I am now in shambles 😂
you are forgiven for not being 30+ mastery :P ps: at your weapon equip @arsenal when weapons dont say MAX RANK are not max rank and probably need forma edit: have you done second dream yet?
On the discussion about live service games being there for too long and new players are overwhelmed. I think a good solution would be to condense old content Warframe & Destiny seems to do that for the story, tho destiny is doing it the wrong way by deleting content. I'm a veteran in warframe so I'm used to the game but A LOT of stuff could be streamlined. The startchat could be condensed, we don't need almost 300 nodes for the whole thing. On a planet: 1 node per mission type + 1 node for the dark sector (then after clicking on it, choose defense or survival) would be plenty enough, would help to find more squad too. It's an exemple but I'm sure you can apply that on plenty of the game's parts.
I feel like if you've beaten new war you deserve steel path. Maybe it could be ONLY clearing every void node. Or ONLY the boss from every planet. I really did hate the tedium of cleaning up every map.
about AFK game on night , game have in Profile clock that count only the !Play Time! so you can have 100000h in steam but when ppl check your profile there will be 30h LOL. Game dont even count time you spend in relay or dojo !
It's possible that they didn't intend to mute you. In my moderating experience elsewhere, when I go to click on a chatter's name and the text "catches up" I accidentally click on the name just below it. If there's a lot of activity, it's hard to tell if or when it happens.
The Operator arcane that heals when jumping in and out of warframe would really help in Steel path.
Adaptation for warframe as well.
Man this was a really good stream.
You're over here having good insightful takes on algorithm and mutual gain for business about asmon giving you exposure and all the ways that works.
And I thought about it. You're doing what asmon does when he's not gaming, while gaming.
Pretty impressive man.
I think something I'd really enjoy would be condensed cuts of your livestreams where we could watch you play through the story or experience new parts of the game such as steel path, heck I'd even just like to be pointed at your first time experiencing the requiem lore.
I'd guess that would basically be an editors job if its too much busy work. Another channel I enjoy streams a lot and his editor uploads cuts of him playing. Its more digestible than full streams for me. But I've still been really enjoying them, I just dont have time for the full thing most of the time. I'm basically taking multiple days to watch some of the story content and then you're streaming the next thing. I enjoy seeing your experience and takes on what all is going on, its incredibly refreshing as someone who heavily enjoys the lore and has 1k+ hours and you also pick up on things I didnt notice as well.
Just tons of thoughts because you mentioned taking in data to learn and grow your channel. So here's 1 viewer's data on a silver platter
personally if i were to recommend a frame for steel path, i’d go Lavos, because you can apply any element you want on his abilities which require no energy and instead run off of a cooldown, which can be shortened by his third ability on Shock proc. also his 4’s damage scales with the amount of statuses applied to the enemy. he works great with an epitaph primer build
i don’t exactly know if he’s “low investment” because i’ve got like 3 forma on him and a few Corrupted mods on him, focusing mainly on Duration (which affects the status duration of his abilities) and efficiency (which affects the amount of time the 3’s cooldown reduction will have) and a bit of strength for a lil extra damage
I also have corrupted mods on him, it's kind of essential. But currently I have no forma into him (but an Umbra Forma with his name on it once I get the Endo to keep leveling the set haha), and he does everything but the highest end of SP without flinching. Admittedly I have one tau one regular blue shard into health, and the same into armor (and a regular yellow for casting speed). But with the amount of armor you can get on him, a health tank how old is relatively easy and works well. Around the lvl 150s or so, you're going to want like Arcane Grace, Reaper, and probably Guardian, but with those and the insane healing in his one, he still works quite well. Plus you don't have to build hard into status chance, and can switch your elements as you wish like you mentioned. And he is not too far into the Entrati rep grind.
Congrats on making it to Steel Path LD. Then doing pretty well at that solo, as well. I have enjoyed a lot of your content as of late.
Not sure if you will see this, but below is going to be mixed friendly info about various Warframe things. Feel free to ignore if you don't want any tips, but the reason I think it might be helpful, is that Chat is filled with many many people all giving recommendations. Some I think are better than others, but they are all often competing with each other and usually because of the format, well... actual decent explanations will be rare, plus as you have covered before, many people employ self referential logic and reasoning, as opposed to giving you advice so you can make your own personal decisions as relevant to your personal preferences.
So below is more intended to actually give more context. You also may already know much of it, or eventually will, but some of it, isn't in the game anyway either. People ether do their own individual testing and crowd share or they look up wikias or YT videos. I'll treat each point as a paragraph if anyone wants to skip any. (Also I am aware this is a bit obnoxiously long for a UA-cam comment, one other alternative is that you can try asking chat "So why is Viral considered so good in the past? What was the meta and why?" etc)
"Status Damage" and Status Effect are different. For example, the reason why Viral was (and will likely still be generally good), is because of the status effect it gives. It amplifies damage many enemies will take. Potentially up to 325%. Including other effects, like say Slash or Heat. This is why in many cases in the "recent" past, Viral was more important than say Serration. Most weapon builds, you will usually want some sort of elemental combo. We are experiencing a meta shake up of sorts, so some elemental combos are more viable now, but yeah.
Other variables. Multishot is really strong in Warframe. Its not necessarily just a damage increase (2 bullets equals double damage?), since not all damage multipliers are equal in nature. With certain different weapons, the benefits can be greater. Its also why multishot will often be better than say just pure damage (Galvanised Multishot mods vs Serration). You'll still want pure damage with Mods until you can get Arcanes, but yeah.
In practice what does that all mean? Well since you are familiar with Burston Incarnon, and Phantasma, lets use them, with some other weapons. A weapon having high status, is one factor, but the weapons fire rate is also really important. Phantasma is a beam weapon (beams can have certain unique traits), its fire rate can be extremely high, so Viral can be okay, but Viral has a cap of 10 stacks. Some elements like Heat don't have that cap, so they can benefit more, if they have high status but also apply status frequently. Some slower firing weapons, may not have advantage, so may be built differently because of that. With those, building for enemy elemental weakness may be more important. Especially since some enemies/bosses may either be status immune or capped on how many statuses they can have inflicted.
You'll also have certain mods like Hunter Munitions, which gives weapons with low Slash or no Slash status, a way to inflict Slash more consistently, and in a way independent of its own Slash stats (it uses a different formula). Strong Crit weapons can benefit this way. Though arguably due to recent changes (armour being less stubborn) it may not be as strong as usual.
Build variety. One issue with chat is when people are giving recommendations, sometimes such recommendations rely on synergising with each other, and not other peoples recommendations. Those can conflict. Shred, Hunter Munitions, Hammer Shot, going Viral Heat vs just Viral, Galvanised Status, Serration. Or can be really good, but some of these can work better than others. IIRC Burston's Incarnon mode also already comes with Heat, so you don't need to build Heat for that mod... but the main mod won't, so you might like to build for it, especially if you use the Galvanised Status mod... since thats another element to boost your damage. Alternatively Viral enhances Slash and Burston Incarnon has great Crit stats so.... Its basically up to your personal discretion and preference.
One last thing to consider with status though, and Warframe, is weapons can scale differently. Ignis Wraith is a great weapon in the star chart, but it starts to fall off faster in Steel Path. Where as the Phantasma Prime will hold up better generally. Some weapons, and some builds may not kill an enemy outright, but you will kill them with DOTS, and you may have to start to relying on conditional temporary effects (as you started to see with Galvanised Mods). So when testing, thats always good to remember.
Hope you enjoy Tennocon mate! All the best!
Vault Hunters is a modpack for minecraft, where you can enter randomized dungeons, after beating them you can "unlock" different mods.
Finally got out of the tutorial
Oh also with the "he missed the train" thing, first i think some people in chat/comments get way too precious about such moments. Yeah its a cool moment, but its replicable. They are talking about a moment in the quest, where you enter a large tile, and, if you know, you know... but the game designers probably wanted you to walk towards the camera's general direction, the way it was set up, that way, you would see a large teleporting New York style subway exit one portal and enter another.
You will come across that particular tile again, and you can also UA-cam it if you somehow don't. Thing is, some people have what I will affectionately refer to as JRPG/RPG brain. Which means... you never take the story progression or obvious path first... You always check corners and side routes, so if you see a large room thats intuitively trying to encourage you to go through the middle, many of us will instinctively fight against that, and go to the less obvious side paths, the darker corners to the sides, the smaller stairs to the sides etc to explore first.
You missed the moment ether due to that, or because you were just that taken by awe by the architecture of the tile set, which IMO is actually pretty awesome and probably more indicative of your joy at the experience of playing. You "missed the scripted moment" because you were so engaged and in awe of the little details and architecture of the tile sets. Thats pretty cool. Plus Whispers is Replayable now anyway, and streaming games with the eyes and voices of others is also a general added pressure most people don't have to contend with when they play such quests.
Keep up the good work!
"Accept ur fate, and u may yet escape it."
Saryn lives because gloom has life leech and your spores tick all the time and fills your hp so you need to keep up your spores up, your 3 and gloom to live and kill, if you dont use your abilities you die on any warframe :D well maybe not on inaros :D
7:45 "Micromeatball" 😂
Welp, TIL that every person I've ever heard say Titania including in all but one production have been saying it the generally considered incorrect way. I saw it in a Shakespeare festival, that I'm sure is that it was said correctly, that was just 9 years ago and I guess I managed to miss it then. My life is a lie, I wonder why it's different in the game, and I am now in shambles 😂
It's not tah-tonya its ti-tane(like pain)-e-ah sorta
you are forgiven for not being 30+ mastery :P
ps: at your weapon equip @arsenal when weapons dont say MAX RANK are not max rank and probably need forma
edit: have you done second dream yet?
On the discussion about live service games being there for too long and new players are overwhelmed. I think a good solution would be to condense old content Warframe & Destiny seems to do that for the story, tho destiny is doing it the wrong way by deleting content. I'm a veteran in warframe so I'm used to the game but A LOT of stuff could be streamlined.
The startchat could be condensed, we don't need almost 300 nodes for the whole thing. On a planet: 1 node per mission type + 1 node for the dark sector (then after clicking on it, choose defense or survival) would be plenty enough, would help to find more squad too.
It's an exemple but I'm sure you can apply that on plenty of the game's parts.
I feel like if you've beaten new war you deserve steel path.
Maybe it could be ONLY clearing every void node. Or ONLY the boss from every planet. I really did hate the tedium of cleaning up every map.
about AFK game on night , game have in Profile clock that count only the !Play Time! so you can have 100000h in steam but when ppl check your profile there will be 30h LOL. Game dont even count time you spend in relay or dojo !
do the mods get off at muting ppl, since i was muted for about 20 minutes in this stream for no reason
It's possible that they didn't intend to mute you. In my moderating experience elsewhere, when I go to click on a chatter's name and the text "catches up" I accidentally click on the name just below it. If there's a lot of activity, it's hard to tell if or when it happens.