Turns out the secret to controlling the Warframes is basic human empathy, something that is so completely alien to the Orokin that they did not even consider it.
It's actually insane how corrupted to the core the Orokin truly were. Instead of "hey let's try to find a common ground here between us and our creations", they were just "yeah WE OWN YOU you damn suckas". No wonder literally everything and everyone turned on them and no wonder they all died. Makes me sad to think that if humanity survives for millions of years we'll actually end up like them...
Like, their downfall was completely predictable. They where so monstrous to anyone they deemed beneath them and so sure of their own superiority that they just couldn't fathom the idea that they would fall out of sheer arrogance.
This is why Satan could never be like God. He could only corrupt and twist the things God made and can never create things for himself. The Orokin "made" things and thought themselves as Gods but in reality all they did was twist and corrupt everything they touch...
I killed him so many times recently and always thought he meant the corpus/grineer etc that transformed into Walkers/chargers/crawlers that still kinda look like them.
The Skiajati sword makes you go invisible for a few seconds after you do a finisher attack on enemies. Excalibur and Excalibur Umbra's blind opens enemies for finisher attacks. Finisher attacks also ignore enemy defense. Also, you are supposed to get a mission complete scene just like with every quest, saying quest complete with a backdrop. It didn't play for you, for some reason. Blame bugframe i guess.
umbra has quickly become one of my favorites once i figured out a good to keep him alive, love popping out as an operator or jumping in to a necro mech and watching umbra go crazy backing me up :)
Yeah plus you having a personal connection to that wf helps. It’s one of the reasons why I like mirage so much. Ballas hates mirage because her will broke his design. While everyone else was screaming in pain during the process of being forcefully turned in to a warframe mirage was laughing completely changing ballad’s design of her. It has been awhile but at least by my understanding ballas designed each warframe to have a distinct purpose usually modeled after an ancient hero (the proto-warframes) in which he had full control over their abilities and functions and somewhat over their appearance. But if the test subject used to make the warframe had a strong will sometimes they could alter the appearance abit from the intended design but the only 2 I can recall to ever go above that was umbra and mirage. Umbra altering his appearance from excal and changing some of his abilities due to his rage and angry. But mirage was able to completely break ballad’s mold changing almost every aspect of her frame becoming the fool
@@nightmareman9960 I wouldn't say he hated her, to be frank, Ballas seemed happy (?) while recollecting the story of Mirage's "birth". As he said, Mirage "suffered to become this beast, yet you laughed at me. As the others writhed and raged in the vice, but you? You played the fool, and so it was that you distorted my design" Even going beyond he called it, the distortion, a "sanguine trick" in which mirage turned into a murderous comedy, in which no one but her is laughing, "the mere vapors of your life shimmering still" At least I don't see any kind of resentment or disgust with the person that became mirage just an almost amused tone while talking about her, although I wouldn't say that it is out of character for him to be entitledly angry because things didn't go in his way. In the protea prime trailer he IS quite angry and disgusted with parvos, So if he was truly mad with Mirage he would've voiced it, or at least been a little snide, mocking her for distorting his design, something along the lines of "Even while you laughed and distorted my grand design, you still became a beast." A surrogate devoid of free will. But even then, even if Mirage didn't make Ballas mad, she was super cool before becoming a full warframe. Also, the proto frames aren't the original warframes, they're just "incomplete" warframes, Albrecht Entrati just took strains of the helminth (Ballas' designs) and cultured them in such a way that the will of the "subjects" wasn't corroded away by the infested madness (Or the subsequent drugging, torturing and evisceration of their minds) keeping them alive, and Albrecht was already just... Waiting for when the helminth finally swallowed the Proto frames whole. Making the "proto" frames full warframes.
if you're into farming arcanes. having a magus repair in your back pocket to back him up in return when he gets a bit damaged so he doesn't shut down keeps him going. Alternatively, dash him (or some enemies trapped in your 2) with vazarin. It was an old fun combo I'd play I'd call "Bodyguard Umbra mode" once my operator was strong enough to stand on it's own. I'd just give Umbra some nice weapons and survivability stuff and I'd pop out and fight along with him.
4:16:12 Instead of going there by himself, Hunhow sent his Daughter to Finish the tenno. Who also Presumably was a Sentient? Theres a reason there are so many MIMICS in this quest
5:22:00 natah is a sentient mimic who took the form of margulis after margulis was killed for taking in the Tenno. So in short the lotus is natah but she is not margulis just someone who took her form to spy on the orokin. 5:37:00 and man the best compound Endo farm is definitely railjack missions. You can lvl up everything plus your intrinsics while a lot getting Mr points and farming gear. You can scrap any un used railjack parts and bps for Endo 7:45:00 here we go ordis’s lore one of the best hidden secrets in the game. It really puts a new perspective on why ordis’s mind is so fractured. Ballas made ordin into an immortal cephalon as punishment forced to serve the ones he hated while having his personality changed to love them. That’s why ordis has these fits of anger that’s the real Ordin coking through. I’m really hoping that DE continue on with ordis’s story through a quest in the future. It seems as the story progresses more and more of Odin comes out of ordis, so is he slowing undoing his brainwashing?. It would be cool to have a quest where his personality fully splits kind like otak and loid. Having Odin uploaded himself into a new body and become a temporary enemy with the docile ordis still being on your side
After this _beautiful_ quest, I always subscribed to the Dualism interpretation: Operator and Warframe. Mind and Body. Two halves of one Tenno. A symbiosis. A partnership. A companionship. Ballas, ever the self-centered Orokin, could never understand. It was never our powers over the Void. The trauma of the Zariman, the compassion of Margulis, the love of The Lotus. These are the things that trained the Operators to merge with the Warframes and become Tenno. Two broken souls becoming one complete entity. His monologue, combined with the music and the “Acceptance” dialogue, always makes me emotional. Absolutely incredible work.
Orokin made the infestation, couldnt control it and got screwed. Orokin made the Sentients, they gained sentient and rebelled. Orokin made the warframes, couldnt control them again and had to lock them up. Orokin exploited the tennos, thought they had control but the children+warframe slaughtered them. The Orokins were bad in the sense that they are pretty much evil and selfish but they were also bad at making things that supposedly benefit them lol.😂
I would like to point out at least the last 3 were Balas' work. He conned the other of the Seven into trying Sentients, despite AI being specifically prohibited. He "volunteers or not"ed the warframes. He specifically scammed Natah from Hunhow to make her Lotus, and kept her mind controlled in a basement on Lua, at least going by Natah's side of the story. Balls truly shat in every bowl of cereal in the Origin System. Probably quite a few in Tau, indirectly. Yes, the other Executors were also bad people, but he specifically had a hand in most of the ruining of anything.
Dude the Orokin is just so comically bad The Grineer betrayed Orokin The Corpus betrayed Orokin The Sentients betrayed Orokin The Warframes betrayed Orokin The Infested fked Orokin over The Tenno betrayed Orokin Even Orokin betrayed Orokin
So, The original Prime frames, the ones Ballas sometimes talks to in trailers, were transformed. All the subsequence frames of that model are cloned, which is where all yours come from. Remember the Lephantis hive, _"We are your flesh, why do you defile us."_
Its a heated Debate but primes may not likely be the OG frames but rather the sales pitch model, Ballas does present each frame in the trailer as if he was trying to sell it to the council.
Yeah the primes were made after the discovery of the tenno, all of the transference controlled ones we use today were. Some frames have original variants that were made before the tenno were found and were sentient. These are the ones we read about in lore or see in quests that don't have tenno piolets like Atlas, Mirage, Gauss, Grendel etc. These ones had to earn their prime status while others who were made after the discovery of the tenno were simply made prime from the start as once the tenno were discovered they didn't need to make any new sentient frames just transference controlled ones.
_Soylent green is people!_ This is why we love Warframe's story. After such a long status quo. You find out they're empty shells, ... but one moves alone to save you. Then you find out the truth was also a lie. Now think about what it means that the Corpus need obedience collars for their robotics, in an age where AI is the greatest taboo ... and there are so many organ-ic "reclaimation" squad on Fortuna.
Do we have any source for that? I'm not 100% up to date, but that definitely wasn't something we knew at the point he's at. Rather, we knew that most humans didn't use that word.
@@TheArcSet One of the Sentients (can't remember which) refers to Alad V as orokin and there are a couple other instances of orokin being used to describe modern high ranking humans of the different factions. The grineer queens (one has canonically died properly) are genuinely ancient Orokin high society people that have maintained an existing by using Continuity to overwrite their minds onto the mind of host bodies.
3:43:45 a couple of years ago, i made a post in the forums talking about that the idea was simple after you get to the orbiter for the first time, you would unlock theother weapons you didnt pick in the intro. basically davos would tell the operator that he has the coordinates of the 2 transport grineer ships, but, since they were so fast, and your orbiter was still being repaired, you would only be able to do one of the 2 missions. but he tells the player not to worry, as he will "leak" the info to a special corpus higher up who is very interested in studying warframes. which would buy us time. regardless of which of the 2 we decide to save, we go in and its a spy mission, but its easier, because davos hacked the central ship alert system, so we cant fail. basically the grineer decided to chop the warframe into its 3 main components, we go in, hack the targets, and get each piece of the warframe already built. davos then tell us about a "special soldier" who is holding the main blueprint, aparently, he decided to leave the grineer, and is now hiding in the plains of eidolon. they could aprouch it in one of 2 ways, first, that grineer could be Clem, and that's how clem and davos got together, OR, he could be a special mini boss of sorts. andwe get our first assassination mission(or maybe just a special bounty that lead to us killing him). after completing that mission, Davos gift us the resources to build that particular warframe. if thye went the clem route, clem would offer the bp as a trade for a pair of grakatas. davos could offer us(the player and clem)a mission, which we could repeat every week, which would be how we are presented to clem's mission. he could even offer us a free grakata bp as a gift for the job as well(but no resources). afterwards, he tells us that the corpus guy he contacted managed to sucessfully steal the warframe parts from the other transport ship, BUT his ship was severely damaged and ended up crashing on fortuna(which would give us a reason to visit that place). when we unlock fortuna and the ability to go to orb valis, we discover that the warframe has been completely dismantled. BUT we could download the blueprints for its parts each at certain locations. we do the mission, and collect each of the bps. but this is a traditional build time. when we finish building each of those parts, we are contacted by none other than Alad V. who, congratulate us on stealing back the warframe blueprints. and, because we basically gifted it to him, he gift us the main BP. this would work to seamlessly introduce spy missions, the plains AND orb valis, davos AND alad V(and maybe Clem and his mission or the bounty system in orb valis and the plains).
A little lore for a few Cephalons that I know lore for: -Most/all Tenno ship Cephalons were mercenaries that turned on their Orokin masters. -Certain Cephalons were willing applicants. Example - Cephalon Suda. From what I can gather, Cephalon Suda was once Archimedian Suda, tasked with keeping and recording the history of the Orokin Empire. After some point she started losing her memories so she requested to be turned into a Cephalon to preserve what remained. Apparently though she regretted not asking for this before she lost the memories of her beloved spouse.
5:25:30 Other way around. Natah was a Sentient Infiltrator send back from Tau to Origin system ahead of the Sentient Revenge Invasion. She fucked a lot of shit up, but was captured. After the Orokin flailed around alot failing to make weapons to fight the Sentients (which were hacking all their super-tech), the Orokin weaponized the Zariman children by putting them in control of their failed Warframe project. But the Orokin needed a way to control and direct the "Tenno" as the joining of warframe and Ten-Zero children were nicknamed. "Hey!" They thought. "The Zariman brats yearn still for their mummy dearest, Margulis. And we have a Sentient Mimic right here... Lets 1+1=2, and win everything for ever!" You already have hints as to how *that* ended...
The moment he got up from his chair after piecing the Vitruvian lore together really got me giggling. These reactions never get old. I love this game XD
Seeing you struggle with the ropalolyst made me redo the fight solo in spite of already having all the wisp parts. It's a puzzle boss for sure, while having a good amp damage helps out, though I had an issue with the dumb bird walking off the platform repeatingly.
No hunhow is not the og warframe. Umbra was a Dax soldier who found out about Ballis leaking Intell to the sentients and ballad found out. His "teatment" was infecting the Dax soldier until he became umbra.
Maybe I'm the only one that didn't have a problem with the Ropalolyst? IDK, I saw 3 big things on the sides, and cables to go to them, so I said, that must have something to do with the fight, after that, i just attacked, saw no damage, used operator because he is an Eidolon, and then the hardest part was to know that I had to jump on it, I got lucky jumping near it while going back to the middle, console was more or less obvious (if you notice it, I've seen some people that didn't know there was a console at first), so when Salad-V speaks, I just went there to check... It's not very well pointed what you have to do, but it's also not so bad that you would be lost... But I can see that they need better pointers on a few boss fights, I might have got lucky with spotting the console, and just got lucky to jump near it while returning to the middle platform, so the "x" to jump on him popped up, but I can remember a few boss fights that also are a bit annoying the first times, when you don't know what you're doing, most people never notice tho, since if you go public, people will just carry you through the first time, and you will notice what they're doing, but that shouldn't be needed.
I dont remember struggling with it either, but i do think it could use more visual guidance and maybe some audio too but i dont rememebr exactly what is said during the fight
Tbf the random boulder really f*cked me up when I saw it too Oh tips for later, Arbitrations are end-game ish missions that have a great drop rate for ayatan sculptures. Also good credit farm. Those will be your biggest source of endo. Can get 5000+ regular endo in drops and rewards ON TOP of getting the sculptures. I'd walk away with close to 10k endo from each run
Sounds like you haven't done the Steel Path arena farm. Like 2-4k endo per minute. There's a dedicated active discord where people host these runs. It's pretty busted, but requires a specific frame comp of Nidus, Nekros, and Korha, and the host needs to have a mod drop chance booster. That is the best endo farm in the game.
Amazing!!!!!! Sacrifice my top favorite quest. And than there was me and many others, getting Second Dream in December 2015, War Within in November 2016, Apostasy Prologue in December 2017, The Sacrifice in June 2018 , New War in December 2021 and I could go on with Zariman Whispers in the Walls and so on. Being in the game for so long makes it so interesting and hard, waiting every time puzzled years for new part of puzzle.
Since so much of your chat seemed confused and because the community as a whole seems to not generally understand this, I will give you the lorebits as best as I know it to the nature of the warframes sentience or lack there of: Before the tenno were discovered the warframes were pioletless bio drones with no tranceference bolts or anything, these pioletless warframes weren't always monsters and many went out in spectacular ways like original atlas or original mirage, others could still be alive to this day theoretically. The problem the orokin had was they just had no control and warframes if given enough time would rebel. Then the tenno were discovered and the original warframes seemed to respect and follow them even when not transference controlled, meaning they even allined themselves with the tenno and the lotus when they slaughtered the orokin. Most warframes that were built before the tenno were at some point conscious and self-acting but these were NOT the prime versions. The primes came way after and many of the first warframes had to prove themselves quality before they were made prime, others who were built after were never consious and often started as primes. Either way the warframes we piolet today are but a few of many copies of the originals that are mindless and have tranceference bolts. Umbra was made way later than ANY of this, they were purposefully made to be consious, but they have a tranceference bolt like non-consious frames. This was ballas's way of punishing umbra for his discovery of ballas's betrayal. This point of lore seems to be a huge point of confusion even today when talking about recent lore like dante, people are getting confused about dante's personality and how he helped with Albreact's research, not remembering original frames were consious and the dante we read about was likely one of these 1st gen frames before their research consumed and killed them. The thing that seems to spark this confusion is that one scene from the second dream, which is the only outlier to our current understanding of modern frames, and considering its one scene in a long cinematic quest, I personally chuck this up to a moment of thoughtless writing or a mistake, but maybe it will be explained later.
I saw a theory to why the WF moved. It could be a self preservation mechanism of the helminth (operator dead no more helminth). Wich can check because of how near they were and how dificult it was for the WF to move
I wouldn’t call that moment a mistake, just an unexplained “miraculous” moment to heighten drama. There could be many explanations, but it’s up to the viewer to decide until DE clarifies it.
@@Arc_Eden The Ordis line you are talking about happens at the end of The War Within after we unlock our memory, not the Second Dream. Everything else you said is largely speculation as nothing was confirmed.
The whole "umbra is the only one" like is that canon? Saying that is also kinda misleading. My point is that there was a Main Blueprint/experiment, a new Strain of infestation itself from which primes, in theyr orokin dressing, and base versions are either Grown or Infected. The beauty is that that doesn´t make the frames we play "shells", it´s cell-division. The same Body in a different frame.
I thought about this, and I think what the game really needs more than anything is cool and dynamic introductions to each of the characters the game uses later on. I really do love Kela De Thaym and Tyl Regor and all those dudes: they're quirky and cool, but they get dropped on you without warning or with very little context. So much of the game outside of the quests is too fast-passed. Teshin and Simaris are the same. They're both incredibly powerful allies that have bearing on the main story, but the first missions involving them like The Strange and Natah sort of... slide them in. I really want to see these entities of the Warframe universe in their element from afar as an initial introduction. Like maybe have Kela drop into Ceres with a cinematic flair, introduce herself, challenge you to find her on Sedna, then leave. Do this with most/all of your major players, and suddenly the world starts to come together sooner than the main questline.
Oh man enjoyed the rewatch I missed it but glad to see you going through the story and making it through . I would like you to stay and keep going and collect the Warframe story and grind . But man 6:43:00 this story hurts and sadness. Am sorry 😢 this happened to you
Hello there! Brand new to the channel, and I've been enjoying your Warframe playthroughs on third shift. So, this is purely speculative, but while Umbra was unique in retaining memories of their life before becoming a warframe, I'm of the opinion that vestigial remnants of personality remain in the frames themselves and are transposed into the Tenno Operator. The Noble and Agile animations, for instance, convey personality outside of what the Tenno displays, sometimes deeply disparate from them. Likewise the abilities are rooted to the Warframe hosts. A normally stoic Tenno becomes a rage monster while in the form of Valkyr, for instance. They didn't endure what she did, but they act with her convictions. This is backed by dialogue from the Mirage trailer, where Ballas states that while others raged, they made a joke of it and laughed. Even as a frame, without true sentience, she still conveys that dark joviality through the Tenno.
Seeing as things are heating up quick, and chat is now bombarding you with "watchthiswatchthiswatchthis," I feel like it's a good time to mention something, this is not a spoiler, just something helpful. I can't remember if it's during or after the Whispers in the Walls quest, but around then...you gain access to a computer terminal that quite literally summarizes most, if not all, of the major history and narrative points up until then, in the most concise way possible. As you're seeing, the quests are coming much faster now, and since someone gifted you the Necramech, and your Railjack is operational, you finished the Ropalolyst fight...New War is around the corner, and Whispers is right after that. Veilbreaker and Angels are good too, they both open up new activities and rewards, but that's the major narrative path. TLDR: You're almost to a point where every single thing will make more sense. At least for now. Lotta stuff even seasoned players don't know how they'll play out. But you'll be plenty caught up for Tennocon.
I'd like to point out one tidbit that many miss. In the "yellow scene", all the voices that we can hear are Isaahs voice. This is speculation on my part, but I think Umbra tried to cope with having just that one memory by blocking Ballas out of his mind sanctuary, leaving just a few lines from his son, even if some of those lines were of panic and fear, they were still all he had left of him. The tenno guided Umbra how to process what was left and how to move forward.
7:07:45 Outer Wilds is an absolute masterpiece of videogame storytelling and design, but if you truly are the kind of people who turns his brain off the moment there in no combat I fear it might be difficult for you to engage
And this choice with Umbra shows that Light is not necessarily Good. Wrath is not necessarily the 'Good' reaction... but it IS bright, flaring, and powerful.
Two cool things you can do next stream is watch the other nightwaves to see why people are so mad that the new ones are nora's mix and if you are maxed in rep with loid and deimos, behind loid in his room are some really cool entries (5 levels with the family + 3 with loid) lore wise I saw a coment really good saying how f'ed up the orokin is bc Ballas said: "And it was not their force of will, not their Void devilry, not their alien darkness... it was something else. It was that somehow, from within the derelict-horror, they had learned a way to see inside an ugly broken thing...and take away its pain." to just badly explained the word "empathy". They were so evil that the word empathy was not in their vocabulary. Also i like the perrin sequence's quest :(
Gotta stop for that box of 43 credits. Actually, if that Phantasma didn't wrecked the sentients like that he would have had the experience a lot of us had where getting Umbra made fighting them easier.
Primes are not originals, not exclusively. Some primes ARE the original versions, with downgraded versions cloned for more common use. Other frames started as normal frames and were granted a Prime version when it was felt that they were worthy of such. Varsia at the back of Maroo's explains this as part of her interaction chat. Like Teshin, she was a Dax soldier. Also, New War is a slogfest. Depending on if you get bugged, you may have to quit the quest at certain moments and replay the entire chapter for that character over again. I had that happen with Teshin's part. Twice.
I have to say the expression on your face when it all clicked was priceless and you actually looked like you were about to cry. Many players couldn't hold it in and admit they cried during this quest. Warframe only gets darker from here and they only just started chapter 2 of the story. Once you finish The New War and Angels of Zariman then the Duviri Paradox will make sense. Frankly Duviri should have been placed at the halfway point of The New War but it would have made that quest 10 hours long and also wasn't fully complete when New War launched so Duvirir was added later but it's out of context cos DE didn't know where to put it. Everyone agrees Duviri should come after New War but New players complained cos they got hyped to play due to Duviris marketing and didn't want to wait so DE moved it to the start of the game and then had to move it again because players complained again that they didn't understand what was going on. Now Duviri is kinda in the wind so DE just said fuck it play it whenever because we're not moving it again. DE even removed half the prerequisites for quests so people could reach the quests faster cos new players complained too much and wanted everything now. It's why older players like me hide some many things from new players as we had to wait 6 months to a year for each new quest. Like you said in another video players are used to getting everything in the first hours of the game and DE have tried to accommodate them but then players moan that they don't have any guidance without realising that it's done on purpose so people learn things as they are presented but too many new people want everything now. The time gates the quest positions are all DEs attempts to say learn this now before you get here or you will be lost after this point but too many new players moaned. Older players are more patient because we had to wait and learn but new players ignore things to rush the story then struggle, blame the game and quit. You have learned the lessons faster because you know there's something more ahead but new people want everything given to them right away, because they have been conditioned by other games to think everything is there at the start just like most modern games. I've seen your opinion change since you're first video as you realised DE did everything on purpose to make people wait.
I dont think that the boss fights like Ropalolyst or Eidolon are bad design. They just bad explained. Its 90% of "try to figure out how to do it". But when you look at other games boss fights then how they are explained? You have two schools. Vulnerable: So boss has big life bar and any your hit deal dmg. So only thing that you should do is not to take damage. So boss mechanics are just his attacks. And there is Unvulnerable: So boss dont take damage anywhere. Beside few points that usually glows like freshly liked dog balls. Sometimes glowy part are avaible always sometimes you need to trigger them. For exaple biggest war mech in Horizon zero dawn has glowing radiators that come out after few his attacks. Warframe in Ropal and Eidolon fight dont do any of this. They are unvulnerable. You have to somehow destroy their shields. Then shoot them into specific but NOT GLOWY parts. And then you can somehow deal dmg. Those two fights are more puzzle than just boss fight. Is this bad? I dont think so. Did every raid in MMOs is always "oh i know everything from the start how to do it"? If yes then that sounds boring. About Glast gambit Index part... i dont know people are ret... or what? This is so fn easy but everyone have problems with that bc missions says "WIN BUT NOT WITH TO MUCH POINTS". Your story about robery is fn crazy. You sound like you took this very chill. If i would be on your place and those guys would play dumb i would say "Ok i believe you. You are my friends." and i would took my phone and call police that my hause was robed. If that was breaking ties for you so snitching on them in front of them shouldnt be a problem. About Ordis pealing shards... basicaly ordis lobotomise himself and scattered fragments of his memories. And this is what you finds everywhere on missions.
Just a little food for thought without handing out any spoilers. There is a central idea weaving through warframe's story, which has started with the War Within, and is reflected in many different aspects and characters in the game, the Tenno, Cephalons, the Stalker - they all have something very integral in common, something fhe lore has hinted countless times at but has yet to explicitly acknowledge. If you want to spoil yourself and look up what it is, google 'psychological shadow', but I'd advise against it.
Some clarification: THE ORIGINAL warframes were made with infested people. Most warframes you wield are made out of replicas of those original warframes, those were never people. Those never had a conscience. That's also why they don't have memories or pilot themselves. Umbra here is the one exception, in the quest you are getting your hands an original warframe, not a replica. Just like the ones you deal with in the chroma and mirage quests.
Man, I think you should've waited a bit before doing Chimera. There's a lot of background lore and context you're still missing, going straight into The New War is gonna be way more confusing without it. Going straight to the Ropalolyst was also a mistake, since that fight relies on you having a fully upgraded amp/operator and a team with good comms. also your chat was lying, the New War cinematic teaser has no spoilers because none of what happens in that trailer actually happens. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that trailer was a marketing bait and switch when it first came out.
So, fun fact. Lotus got taken by Ballas on valenties, iirc. So a lot of people took it as ballas stealing their waifu. This quest, The Sacrifice, was the salty runback we needed. Also, since I really find Ordis annoying, and The Sacrifice has a section where Ordis is gone from the ship. I replayed the mission to that point and never advanced it. I use The Sacrifice as a pretty effective mute button for Ordis.
I really enjoy seeing people enthusiastic about Warframe getting to experience it for the first time, because I know the reaction won't be far off what most of us experienced during our playtime Oh, with Excalibur Umbra btw, outside of his 150plat skin, you can toggle the scarf and any prime parts he has on his armor to appear on those other skins. Also, the Warframe being able to move against that sword is because they were in the Somatic link chamber where the Tenno's transference is way way stronger. I think as it stands, only Excalibur umbra is sentient, or at least that's my understanding. I didn't realise the conclusion of the Umbra quest though, and I only understood it while watching this time, so now I hate Ballas more! :3 The Orokin are a breakaway civization, and the Sentient were machines that gained sentience and rebelled hard against their makers.
at the one cooked chatter complaining he doesn't know how to mod: You know why a player 200 hours in has no clue about modding? Because the game never tells you nor makes you engage with the system. They know it's too much to drop on a new player so they don't even bother anymore after putting a tutorial button with basic information lol
"ChatGPT4 talking to ChatGPT4" :D lol And yes, Subnautica (especially the first one) is great. I did like the 2nd one as well. The 2nd one has better systems, but the story and the immersion is not as good.
Turns out the secret to controlling the Warframes is basic human empathy, something that is so completely alien to the Orokin that they did not even consider it.
It's actually insane how corrupted to the core the Orokin truly were.
Instead of "hey let's try to find a common ground here between us and our creations", they were just "yeah WE OWN YOU you damn suckas". No wonder literally everything and everyone turned on them and no wonder they all died.
Makes me sad to think that if humanity survives for millions of years we'll actually end up like them...
@@rodrigopinto9804 We might, we might not. Who can say, really?
Like, their downfall was completely predictable. They where so monstrous to anyone they deemed beneath them and so sure of their own superiority that they just couldn't fathom the idea that they would fall out of sheer arrogance.
This is why Satan could never be like God. He could only corrupt and twist the things God made and can never create things for himself. The Orokin "made" things and thought themselves as Gods but in reality all they did was twist and corrupt everything they touch...
@@rodrigopinto9804 They are called rich people, in our era. We are on the path of creating our own little warframe/fallout universe quite soon enough.
And now Lephantis's quote "Why do you destroy us? We are your flesh.", is explained :D
It was explained in the War Within when Worm Queen says 'Not the infested puppet'.
I killed him so many times recently and always thought he meant the corpus/grineer etc that transformed into Walkers/chargers/crawlers that still kinda look like them.
@@Ascythian Yes but the lephantis quote has a bit more intrigue since it was released far earlier, making it one of the first hints to being infested.
@@AliasSchmalias yup, and its crazy cuz lephantis was released in 2013, that bish been giving us spoilers for 10y and we all over looked it lol.
@@Ascythian That hardly qualifies as an explanation
3:12:35 The Sacrifice
4:46:05 Chimera Prologue
5:05:30 Rhino Codex Lore
5:13:20 Erra
5:26:10 The Maker
5:40:22 Ropalolyst
6:50:35 Octavia's Anthem
7:42:44 Discovering Ordis' Lore
you saved me from 15 mins of scrolling through VOD, thank you kind man
Ohh I'm glad someone directed him Rhino's codex.
Bro your a saint
Wtf why he spends 3 hours not playing it..... thank you I was going nuts finding it
the first 3 hours of the video: Am I a joke to you? 😂
Sacrifice was hands down my favorite quest. The emotion they are able to pull from you and the realization of everything is just unmatched.
The Skiajati sword makes you go invisible for a few seconds after you do a finisher attack on enemies. Excalibur and Excalibur Umbra's blind opens enemies for finisher attacks. Finisher attacks also ignore enemy defense.
Also, you are supposed to get a mission complete scene just like with every quest, saying quest complete with a backdrop. It didn't play for you, for some reason. Blame bugframe i guess.
Does the invis work with ash’s 4th ability where it’s considered as finisher dmg? Honestly never tried it
As the echoes of Ballas say in the Second Dream: "These are not Dax Soldiers. These are Golems, posessed by Devil Minds."
They are so much more than golems. Ballas was blind and ignorant of the creatures he created.
@@Ixidora... again...
umbra has quickly become one of my favorites once i figured out a good to keep him alive, love popping out as an operator or jumping in to a necro mech and watching umbra go crazy backing me up :)
Yeah plus you having a personal connection to that wf helps. It’s one of the reasons why I like mirage so much.
Ballas hates mirage because her will broke his design. While everyone else was screaming in pain during the process of being forcefully turned in to a warframe mirage was laughing completely changing ballad’s design of her.
It has been awhile but at least by my understanding ballas designed each warframe to have a distinct purpose usually modeled after an ancient hero (the proto-warframes) in which he had full control over their abilities and functions and somewhat over their appearance. But if the test subject used to make the warframe had a strong will sometimes they could alter the appearance abit from the intended design but the only 2 I can recall to ever go above that was umbra and mirage. Umbra altering his appearance from excal and changing some of his abilities due to his rage and angry. But mirage was able to completely break ballad’s mold changing almost every aspect of her frame becoming the fool
@@nightmareman9960 I wouldn't say he hated her, to be frank, Ballas seemed happy (?) while recollecting the story of Mirage's "birth". As he said, Mirage "suffered to become this beast, yet you laughed at me. As the others writhed and raged in the vice, but you? You played the fool, and so it was that you distorted my design"
Even going beyond he called it, the distortion, a "sanguine trick" in which mirage turned into a murderous comedy, in which no one but her is laughing, "the mere vapors of your life shimmering still" At least I don't see any kind of resentment or disgust with the person that became mirage just an almost amused tone while talking about her, although I wouldn't say that it is out of character for him to be entitledly angry because things didn't go in his way. In the protea prime trailer he IS quite angry and disgusted with parvos, So if he was truly mad with Mirage he would've voiced it, or at least been a little snide, mocking her for distorting his design, something along the lines of "Even while you laughed and distorted my grand design, you still became a beast." A surrogate devoid of free will.
But even then, even if Mirage didn't make Ballas mad, she was super cool before becoming a full warframe.
Also, the proto frames aren't the original warframes, they're just "incomplete" warframes, Albrecht Entrati just took strains of the helminth (Ballas' designs) and cultured them in such a way that the will of the "subjects" wasn't corroded away by the infested madness (Or the subsequent drugging, torturing and evisceration of their minds) keeping them alive, and Albrecht was already just... Waiting for when the helminth finally swallowed the Proto frames whole. Making the "proto" frames full warframes.
if you're into farming arcanes. having a magus repair in your back pocket to back him up in return when he gets a bit damaged so he doesn't shut down keeps him going. Alternatively, dash him (or some enemies trapped in your 2) with vazarin.
It was an old fun combo I'd play I'd call "Bodyguard Umbra mode" once my operator was strong enough to stand on it's own. I'd just give Umbra some nice weapons and survivability stuff and I'd pop out and fight along with him.
4:16:12 Instead of going there by himself, Hunhow sent his Daughter to Finish the tenno. Who also Presumably was a Sentient? Theres a reason there are so many MIMICS in this quest
Hunhow's daughter?? Do you mean Natah??
@@Y55DR4S1L Ofcourse, who else?
@@arckon737 WHAT THE HELL??
SOMEONE NEEDS TO TELL HIM!
Him = Legendary Drops
@@Y55DR4S1L eh? he will figure it out
Wait so Hunhow is the father ,Erra the Don/Brother and Nather the Daughter/sister!?
5:22:00 natah is a sentient mimic who took the form of margulis after margulis was killed for taking in the Tenno.
So in short the lotus is natah but she is not margulis just someone who took her form to spy on the orokin.
5:37:00 and man the best compound Endo farm is definitely railjack missions. You can lvl up everything plus your intrinsics while a lot getting Mr points and farming gear. You can scrap any un used railjack parts and bps for Endo
7:45:00 here we go ordis’s lore one of the best hidden secrets in the game.
It really puts a new perspective on why ordis’s mind is so fractured.
Ballas made ordin into an immortal cephalon as punishment forced to serve the ones he hated while having his personality changed to love them. That’s why ordis has these fits of anger that’s the real Ordin coking through.
I’m really hoping that DE continue on with ordis’s story through a quest in the future. It seems as the story progresses more and more of Odin comes out of ordis, so is he slowing undoing his brainwashing?.
It would be cool to have a quest where his personality fully splits kind like otak and loid. Having Odin uploaded himself into a new body and become a temporary enemy with the docile ordis still being on your side
After this _beautiful_ quest, I always subscribed to the Dualism interpretation: Operator and Warframe. Mind and Body. Two halves of one Tenno. A symbiosis. A partnership. A companionship.
Ballas, ever the self-centered Orokin, could never understand. It was never our powers over the Void. The trauma of the Zariman, the compassion of Margulis, the love of The Lotus. These are the things that trained the Operators to merge with the Warframes and become Tenno. Two broken souls becoming one complete entity.
His monologue, combined with the music and the “Acceptance” dialogue, always makes me emotional. Absolutely incredible work.
Orokin made the infestation, couldnt control it and got screwed.
Orokin made the Sentients, they gained sentient and rebelled.
Orokin made the warframes, couldnt control them again and had to lock them up.
Orokin exploited the tennos, thought they had control but the children+warframe slaughtered them.
The Orokins were bad in the sense that they are pretty much evil and selfish but they were also bad at making things that supposedly benefit them lol.😂
You forget they also made gerneer and Corpus
Very true ... though they lasted a long time, despite that.
I would like to point out at least the last 3 were Balas' work. He conned the other of the Seven into trying Sentients, despite AI being specifically prohibited. He "volunteers or not"ed the warframes. He specifically scammed Natah from Hunhow to make her Lotus, and kept her mind controlled in a basement on Lua, at least going by Natah's side of the story.
Balls truly shat in every bowl of cereal in the Origin System. Probably quite a few in Tau, indirectly. Yes, the other Executors were also bad people, but he specifically had a hand in most of the ruining of anything.
Dude the Orokin is just so comically bad
The Grineer betrayed Orokin
The Corpus betrayed Orokin
The Sentients betrayed Orokin
The Warframes betrayed Orokin
The Infested fked Orokin over
The Tenno betrayed Orokin
Even Orokin betrayed Orokin
@@DawnAfternoon The Corpus was founded by a dude who hated the Orokin, tbh.
For what happened to Orokin - look for the Stalker descript in the Codex.
So, The original Prime frames, the ones Ballas sometimes talks to in trailers, were transformed.
All the subsequence frames of that model are cloned, which is where all yours come from.
Remember the Lephantis hive, _"We are your flesh, why do you defile us."_
Its a heated Debate but primes may not likely be the OG frames but rather the sales pitch model, Ballas does present each frame in the trailer as if he was trying to sell it to the council.
Yeah the primes were made after the discovery of the tenno, all of the transference controlled ones we use today were. Some frames have original variants that were made before the tenno were found and were sentient. These are the ones we read about in lore or see in quests that don't have tenno piolets like Atlas, Mirage, Gauss, Grendel etc. These ones had to earn their prime status while others who were made after the discovery of the tenno were simply made prime from the start as once the tenno were discovered they didn't need to make any new sentient frames just transference controlled ones.
5:22:30 To understand this you need to understand not all Orokin use Continuity. Ballas Did I think and chose that new blue body of his.
Never twigged before, but this is probably an Evangelion reference too.
If there one phrase to sum up Warframe's lore it's:
*_The Truth is a Lie!_*
Wake up, sweet dreamer...
_Soylent green is people!_
This is why we love Warframe's story. After such a long status quo.
You find out they're empty shells, ... but one moves alone to save you. Then you find out the truth was also a lie.
Now think about what it means that the Corpus need obedience collars for their robotics, in an age where AI is the greatest taboo ... and there are so many organ-ic "reclaimation" squad on Fortuna.
Orokin are humans, over time people started calling the ruling caste of the Orokin empire with "Orokin" as well.
Do we have any source for that?
I'm not 100% up to date, but that definitely wasn't something we knew at the point he's at.
Rather, we knew that most humans didn't use that word.
@@TheArcSet
One of the Sentients (can't remember which) refers to Alad V as orokin and there are a couple other instances of orokin being used to describe modern high ranking humans of the different factions. The grineer queens (one has canonically died properly) are genuinely ancient Orokin high society people that have maintained an existing by using Continuity to overwrite their minds onto the mind of host bodies.
3:43:45 a couple of years ago, i made a post in the forums talking about that
the idea was simple
after you get to the orbiter for the first time, you would unlock theother weapons you didnt pick in the intro. basically davos would tell the operator that he has the coordinates of the 2 transport grineer ships, but, since they were so fast, and your orbiter was still being repaired, you would only be able to do one of the 2 missions. but he tells the player not to worry, as he will "leak" the info to a special corpus higher up who is very interested in studying warframes. which would buy us time.
regardless of which of the 2 we decide to save, we go in and its a spy mission, but its easier, because davos hacked the central ship alert system, so we cant fail. basically the grineer decided to chop the warframe into its 3 main components, we go in, hack the targets, and get each piece of the warframe already built. davos then tell us about a "special soldier" who is holding the main blueprint, aparently, he decided to leave the grineer, and is now hiding in the plains of eidolon. they could aprouch it in one of 2 ways, first, that grineer could be Clem, and that's how clem and davos got together, OR, he could be a special mini boss of sorts. andwe get our first assassination mission(or maybe just a special bounty that lead to us killing him). after completing that mission, Davos gift us the resources to build that particular warframe. if thye went the clem route, clem would offer the bp as a trade for a pair of grakatas. davos could offer us(the player and clem)a mission, which we could repeat every week, which would be how we are presented to clem's mission. he could even offer us a free grakata bp as a gift for the job as well(but no resources).
afterwards, he tells us that the corpus guy he contacted managed to sucessfully steal the warframe parts from the other transport ship, BUT his ship was severely damaged and ended up crashing on fortuna(which would give us a reason to visit that place).
when we unlock fortuna and the ability to go to orb valis, we discover that the warframe has been completely dismantled. BUT we could download the blueprints for its parts each at certain locations.
we do the mission, and collect each of the bps. but this is a traditional build time. when we finish building each of those parts, we are contacted by none other than Alad V. who, congratulate us on stealing back the warframe blueprints. and, because we basically gifted it to him, he gift us the main BP.
this would work to seamlessly introduce spy missions, the plains AND orb valis, davos AND alad V(and maybe Clem and his mission or the bounty system in orb valis and the plains).
Did you notice that ordis when talking too us is a cube with cracks? I believe it simbolises the true personality showing itself
A little lore for a few Cephalons that I know lore for:
-Most/all Tenno ship Cephalons were mercenaries that turned on their Orokin masters.
-Certain Cephalons were willing applicants. Example - Cephalon Suda. From what I can gather, Cephalon Suda was once Archimedian Suda, tasked with keeping and recording the history of the Orokin Empire. After some point she started losing her memories so she requested to be turned into a Cephalon to preserve what remained. Apparently though she regretted not asking for this before she lost the memories of her beloved spouse.
The Sacrifice still makes me cry...
5:25:30 Other way around. Natah was a Sentient Infiltrator send back from Tau to Origin system ahead of the Sentient Revenge Invasion. She fucked a lot of shit up, but was captured.
After the Orokin flailed around alot failing to make weapons to fight the Sentients (which were hacking all their super-tech), the Orokin weaponized the Zariman children by putting them in control of their failed Warframe project. But the Orokin needed a way to control and direct the "Tenno" as the joining of warframe and Ten-Zero children were nicknamed.
"Hey!" They thought. "The Zariman brats yearn still for their mummy dearest, Margulis. And we have a Sentient Mimic right here... Lets 1+1=2, and win everything for ever!"
You already have hints as to how *that* ended...
No hate, LegendaryDrops, but that Orokin Cipher was some Game-Journalist level skills.
The moment he got up from his chair after piecing the Vitruvian lore together really got me giggling. These reactions never get old. I love this game XD
4:42:30 "Don't talk to me or my Warframe ever again."
Seeing you struggle with the ropalolyst made me redo the fight solo in spite of already having all the wisp parts. It's a puzzle boss for sure, while having a good amp damage helps out, though I had an issue with the dumb bird walking off the platform repeatingly.
4:20:13 Yep. Super Fucked Up. And now you know why the whole WF community HATES Ballas with the fury of ONE THOUSAND SUPERNOVAS.
He was a fantastic villain. I have no idea what you're talking about.
4:03:24 the sound of a man realizing how dark Warframe actually is.
No hunhow is not the og warframe. Umbra was a Dax soldier who found out about Ballis leaking Intell to the sentients and ballad found out. His "teatment" was infecting the Dax soldier until he became umbra.
Maybe I'm the only one that didn't have a problem with the Ropalolyst? IDK, I saw 3 big things on the sides, and cables to go to them, so I said, that must have something to do with the fight, after that, i just attacked, saw no damage, used operator because he is an Eidolon, and then the hardest part was to know that I had to jump on it, I got lucky jumping near it while going back to the middle, console was more or less obvious (if you notice it, I've seen some people that didn't know there was a console at first), so when Salad-V speaks, I just went there to check... It's not very well pointed what you have to do, but it's also not so bad that you would be lost...
But I can see that they need better pointers on a few boss fights, I might have got lucky with spotting the console, and just got lucky to jump near it while returning to the middle platform, so the "x" to jump on him popped up, but I can remember a few boss fights that also are a bit annoying the first times, when you don't know what you're doing, most people never notice tho, since if you go public, people will just carry you through the first time, and you will notice what they're doing, but that shouldn't be needed.
I dont remember struggling with it either, but i do think it could use more visual guidance and maybe some audio too but i dont rememebr exactly what is said during the fight
Tbf the random boulder really f*cked me up when I saw it too
Oh tips for later, Arbitrations are end-game ish missions that have a great drop rate for ayatan sculptures. Also good credit farm.
Those will be your biggest source of endo. Can get 5000+ regular endo in drops and rewards ON TOP of getting the sculptures.
I'd walk away with close to 10k endo from each run
Sounds like you haven't done the Steel Path arena farm. Like 2-4k endo per minute. There's a dedicated active discord where people host these runs. It's pretty busted, but requires a specific frame comp of Nidus, Nekros, and Korha, and the host needs to have a mod drop chance booster.
That is the best endo farm in the game.
@@lilfuzzballa *sigh*
Or, maybe I was giving him an option thats far viable and closer to where he is the game, but okay be "that guy"
@AtlasCrafted I guess I assumed too much and became that guy. Sorry to annoy you.
4:01:19 the truth was revealed in all its horror. Hope you're ok little bro. Stay strong, more lore bombs to come.✨
Amazing!!!!!! Sacrifice my top favorite quest.
And than there was me and many others, getting Second Dream in December 2015, War Within in November 2016, Apostasy Prologue in December 2017, The Sacrifice in June 2018 , New War in December 2021 and I could go on with Zariman Whispers in the Walls and so on. Being in the game for so long makes it so interesting and hard, waiting every time puzzled years for new part of puzzle.
Since so much of your chat seemed confused and because the community as a whole seems to not generally understand this, I will give you the lorebits as best as I know it to the nature of the warframes sentience or lack there of:
Before the tenno were discovered the warframes were pioletless bio drones with no tranceference bolts or anything, these pioletless warframes weren't always monsters and many went out in spectacular ways like original atlas or original mirage, others could still be alive to this day theoretically. The problem the orokin had was they just had no control and warframes if given enough time would rebel. Then the tenno were discovered and the original warframes seemed to respect and follow them even when not transference controlled, meaning they even allined themselves with the tenno and the lotus when they slaughtered the orokin. Most warframes that were built before the tenno were at some point conscious and self-acting but these were NOT the prime versions. The primes came way after and many of the first warframes had to prove themselves quality before they were made prime, others who were built after were never consious and often started as primes. Either way the warframes we piolet today are but a few of many copies of the originals that are mindless and have tranceference bolts. Umbra was made way later than ANY of this, they were purposefully made to be consious, but they have a tranceference bolt like non-consious frames. This was ballas's way of punishing umbra for his discovery of ballas's betrayal.
This point of lore seems to be a huge point of confusion even today when talking about recent lore like dante, people are getting confused about dante's personality and how he helped with Albreact's research, not remembering original frames were consious and the dante we read about was likely one of these 1st gen frames before their research consumed and killed them.
The thing that seems to spark this confusion is that one scene from the second dream, which is the only outlier to our current understanding of modern frames, and considering its one scene in a long cinematic quest, I personally chuck this up to a moment of thoughtless writing or a mistake, but maybe it will be explained later.
I saw a theory to why the WF moved. It could be a self preservation mechanism of the helminth (operator dead no more helminth). Wich can check because of how near they were and how dificult it was for the WF to move
I wouldn’t call that moment a mistake, just an unexplained “miraculous” moment to heighten drama.
There could be many explanations, but it’s up to the viewer to decide until DE clarifies it.
Pal he already got all that, why would you even type it
@@Arc_Eden The Ordis line you are talking about happens at the end of The War Within after we unlock our memory, not the Second Dream. Everything else you said is largely speculation as nothing was confirmed.
@@vladu__e His chat was very confused the whole time and arguing with themselves sorry for trying to make it all clear.
The whole "umbra is the only one" like is that canon? Saying that is also kinda misleading.
My point is that there was a Main Blueprint/experiment, a new Strain of infestation itself from which primes, in theyr orokin dressing, and base versions are either Grown or Infected.
The beauty is that that doesn´t make the frames we play "shells", it´s cell-division.
The same Body in a different frame.
because of how the scanner works, a visual notification(beyond its normal notifications) would probably make it harder to find the scan targets.
duviri is the place where tenno's space ship was stuck. its in the void.
This qeust is my absolutely favorite.
Not sure if you'll see this now but if you slide melee while using exalted blade he does a radial blind spin move
I thought about this, and I think what the game really needs more than anything is cool and dynamic introductions to each of the characters the game uses later on. I really do love Kela De Thaym and Tyl Regor and all those dudes: they're quirky and cool, but they get dropped on you without warning or with very little context. So much of the game outside of the quests is too fast-passed. Teshin and Simaris are the same. They're both incredibly powerful allies that have bearing on the main story, but the first missions involving them like The Strange and Natah sort of... slide them in. I really want to see these entities of the Warframe universe in their element from afar as an initial introduction. Like maybe have Kela drop into Ceres with a cinematic flair, introduce herself, challenge you to find her on Sedna, then leave. Do this with most/all of your major players, and suddenly the world starts to come together sooner than the main questline.
We accept this memory... and move beyond its reach
Oh man enjoyed the rewatch I missed it but glad to see you going through the story and making it through . I would like you to stay and keep going and collect the Warframe story and grind .
But man 6:43:00 this story hurts and sadness. Am sorry 😢 this happened to you
Umbra quest is where I was like. Yep, it's time to grind Operator.
Hello there! Brand new to the channel, and I've been enjoying your Warframe playthroughs on third shift. So, this is purely speculative, but while Umbra was unique in retaining memories of their life before becoming a warframe, I'm of the opinion that vestigial remnants of personality remain in the frames themselves and are transposed into the Tenno Operator. The Noble and Agile animations, for instance, convey personality outside of what the Tenno displays, sometimes deeply disparate from them. Likewise the abilities are rooted to the Warframe hosts. A normally stoic Tenno becomes a rage monster while in the form of Valkyr, for instance. They didn't endure what she did, but they act with her convictions. This is backed by dialogue from the Mirage trailer, where Ballas states that while others raged, they made a joke of it and laughed. Even as a frame, without true sentience, she still conveys that dark joviality through the Tenno.
Seeing as things are heating up quick, and chat is now bombarding you with "watchthiswatchthiswatchthis," I feel like it's a good time to mention something, this is not a spoiler, just something helpful. I can't remember if it's during or after the Whispers in the Walls quest, but around then...you gain access to a computer terminal that quite literally summarizes most, if not all, of the major history and narrative points up until then, in the most concise way possible. As you're seeing, the quests are coming much faster now, and since someone gifted you the Necramech, and your Railjack is operational, you finished the Ropalolyst fight...New War is around the corner, and Whispers is right after that. Veilbreaker and Angels are good too, they both open up new activities and rewards, but that's the major narrative path.
TLDR: You're almost to a point where every single thing will make more sense. At least for now. Lotta stuff even seasoned players don't know how they'll play out. But you'll be plenty caught up for Tennocon.
I'd like to point out one tidbit that many miss. In the "yellow scene", all the voices that we can hear are Isaahs voice. This is speculation on my part, but I think Umbra tried to cope with having just that one memory by blocking Ballas out of his mind sanctuary, leaving just a few lines from his son, even if some of those lines were of panic and fear, they were still all he had left of him. The tenno guided Umbra how to process what was left and how to move forward.
dude had a Soylent Green moment XD, I remember when I first realized this. yeah pretty reasonable response.
Umbra need’s a hug
7:07:45 Outer Wilds is an absolute masterpiece of videogame storytelling and design, but if you truly are the kind of people who turns his brain off the moment there in no combat I fear it might be difficult for you to engage
And this choice with Umbra shows that Light is not necessarily Good. Wrath is not necessarily the 'Good' reaction... but it IS bright, flaring, and powerful.
I've only watched a bit of this channel, but I'm liking this video strictly on the spiritbox shirt he's wearing.
Two cool things you can do next stream is watch the other nightwaves to see why people are so mad that the new ones are nora's mix and if you are maxed in rep with loid and deimos, behind loid in his room are some really cool entries (5 levels with the family + 3 with loid) lore wise
I saw a coment really good saying how f'ed up the orokin is bc Ballas said:
"And it was not their force of will, not their Void devilry, not their alien darkness... it was something else. It was that somehow, from within the derelict-horror, they had learned a way to see inside an ugly broken thing...and take away its pain."
to just badly explained the word "empathy". They were so evil that the word empathy was not in their vocabulary.
Also i like the perrin sequence's quest :(
3:42:30 yes, and make earlier things faster in general, builds and all.
This is amazing, watching someone go though all this… BUT CHAT IS SUCH A HEADACHE, Who are these children?
4:28:00 Daily Sorties for everyone's favorite BUTTPLUG PRIME statue. :lmao:
he needs to do glassmaker and then listen to grandmothers Halloween stories since he did ordis lore now
It would be really sick if we got another Umbra-style Warframe that was controlled by Ordis while you were in Operator mode.
Gotta stop for that box of 43 credits. Actually, if that Phantasma didn't wrecked the sentients like that he would have had the experience a lot of us had where getting Umbra made fighting them easier.
Primes are not originals, not exclusively. Some primes ARE the original versions, with downgraded versions cloned for more common use. Other frames started as normal frames and were granted a Prime version when it was felt that they were worthy of such. Varsia at the back of Maroo's explains this as part of her interaction chat. Like Teshin, she was a Dax soldier. Also, New War is a slogfest. Depending on if you get bugged, you may have to quit the quest at certain moments and replay the entire chapter for that character over again. I had that happen with Teshin's part. Twice.
6:11:40 Yes! Someone said it! yeah they are not that good, but they been improving a little. I hope they do some thing big someday.
how did he smoke umbra so quick?? did they make the quest easier?
"I don't have anything I feel strongly about enough to talk about it." Continues to talk about large gaming companies for quite a while.😊
Seeing him removing Sacrificial Pressure was painful
The helmuth is why your warframe pulled the sword out of its chest.
Also the first of every umbral warframe was a Dax, most other frames and primes after first concept from the Grey strain, are "golems"
5:03:46 primes are just gilded versions of warframes. Most were made as elite guards per the seven houses of orokin.
so shorten the timers for the limo theorem and make a mandatory quest?
I have to say the expression on your face when it all clicked was priceless and you actually looked like you were about to cry. Many players couldn't hold it in and admit they cried during this quest. Warframe only gets darker from here and they only just started chapter 2 of the story. Once you finish The New War and Angels of Zariman then the Duviri Paradox will make sense. Frankly Duviri should have been placed at the halfway point of The New War but it would have made that quest 10 hours long and also wasn't fully complete when New War launched so Duvirir was added later but it's out of context cos DE didn't know where to put it. Everyone agrees Duviri should come after New War but New players complained cos they got hyped to play due to Duviris marketing and didn't want to wait so DE moved it to the start of the game and then had to move it again because players complained again that they didn't understand what was going on. Now Duviri is kinda in the wind so DE just said fuck it play it whenever because we're not moving it again. DE even removed half the prerequisites for quests so people could reach the quests faster cos new players complained too much and wanted everything now. It's why older players like me hide some many things from new players as we had to wait 6 months to a year for each new quest. Like you said in another video players are used to getting everything in the first hours of the game and DE have tried to accommodate them but then players moan that they don't have any guidance without realising that it's done on purpose so people learn things as they are presented but too many new people want everything now. The time gates the quest positions are all DEs attempts to say learn this now before you get here or you will be lost after this point but too many new players moaned. Older players are more patient because we had to wait and learn but new players ignore things to rush the story then struggle, blame the game and quit. You have learned the lessons faster because you know there's something more ahead but new people want everything given to them right away, because they have been conditioned by other games to think everything is there at the start just like most modern games. I've seen your opinion change since you're first video as you realised DE did everything on purpose to make people wait.
Ahhhhh the soylent green moment. Welcome to warframe buddy
Side note. Do you ever use the tips section when looki gat your warframe abilities?
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NO Ballas is not space dad, Wally is.
Ballas is our space stepdad. Wally is our space crack dealer from around the corner.
Ballas is like Lotus’s shitty ex-husband, and Wally is the weird uncle
Ballas is space simp.
I dont think that the boss fights like Ropalolyst or Eidolon are bad design. They just bad explained. Its 90% of "try to figure out how to do it". But when you look at other games boss fights then how they are explained? You have two schools. Vulnerable: So boss has big life bar and any your hit deal dmg. So only thing that you should do is not to take damage. So boss mechanics are just his attacks. And there is Unvulnerable: So boss dont take damage anywhere. Beside few points that usually glows like freshly liked dog balls. Sometimes glowy part are avaible always sometimes you need to trigger them. For exaple biggest war mech in Horizon zero dawn has glowing radiators that come out after few his attacks.
Warframe in Ropal and Eidolon fight dont do any of this. They are unvulnerable. You have to somehow destroy their shields. Then shoot them into specific but NOT GLOWY parts. And then you can somehow deal dmg.
Those two fights are more puzzle than just boss fight. Is this bad? I dont think so. Did every raid in MMOs is always "oh i know everything from the start how to do it"? If yes then that sounds boring.
About Glast gambit Index part... i dont know people are ret... or what? This is so fn easy but everyone have problems with that bc missions says "WIN BUT NOT WITH TO MUCH POINTS".
Your story about robery is fn crazy. You sound like you took this very chill. If i would be on your place and those guys would play dumb i would say "Ok i believe you. You are my friends." and i would took my phone and call police that my hause was robed. If that was breaking ties for you so snitching on them in front of them shouldnt be a problem.
About Ordis pealing shards... basicaly ordis lobotomise himself and scattered fragments of his memories. And this is what you finds everywhere on missions.
MY DUDE, i have 4k hours on the game and i only find out now you can press A in the ship and open ship in gear!
I know we are desperate Executor, but these aren't Dax soldiers. These are Golems possessed by Devil Minds. - Ballas, The Second Dream
4:02:20 we all did that 😂
There's a zombie inside *every one*
Why are there void angel screams whenever he's extracting?
Just a little food for thought without handing out any spoilers. There is a central idea weaving through warframe's story, which has started with the War Within, and is reflected in many different aspects and characters in the game, the Tenno, Cephalons, the Stalker - they all have something very integral in common, something fhe lore has hinted countless times at but has yet to explicitly acknowledge. If you want to spoil yourself and look up what it is, google 'psychological shadow', but I'd advise against it.
4:43:53 why acting so suprise she a sentient after all
Hey due loving seeing you
react to all the warframe stories! May i ask, what kind of mic are you using?
Some clarification: THE ORIGINAL warframes were made with infested people. Most warframes you wield are made out of replicas of those original warframes, those were never people. Those never had a conscience. That's also why they don't have memories or pilot themselves. Umbra here is the one exception, in the quest you are getting your hands an original warframe, not a replica. Just like the ones you deal with in the chroma and mirage quests.
Man, I think you should've waited a bit before doing Chimera. There's a lot of background lore and context you're still missing, going straight into The New War is gonna be way more confusing without it. Going straight to the Ropalolyst was also a mistake, since that fight relies on you having a fully upgraded amp/operator and a team with good comms.
also your chat was lying, the New War cinematic teaser has no spoilers because none of what happens in that trailer actually happens. In fact, I'd go so far as to say that trailer was a marketing bait and switch when it first came out.
This quest really cemented Ballas being the absolute WORST. He took pleasure in torturing Umbra while he was slowly losing himself to infection.
www.youtube.com/@TheDsIEGE he is a very good lore expert on Warframe
That boss on Jupiter, you wanna use Frost so when you're stuck on that middle island with him you can pop your snow globe and not take a beating.
While I appreciate how excited the WF community is about their game, they need to chill out and let bro play naturally.
JADE LIGHT!! 4:10:18
So, fun fact. Lotus got taken by Ballas on valenties, iirc. So a lot of people took it as ballas stealing their waifu. This quest, The Sacrifice, was the salty runback we needed.
Also, since I really find Ordis annoying, and The Sacrifice has a section where Ordis is gone from the ship. I replayed the mission to that point and never advanced it. I use The Sacrifice as a pretty effective mute button for Ordis.
Did he do duviri already? I'm confused
I really enjoy seeing people enthusiastic about Warframe getting to experience it for the first time, because I know the reaction won't be far off what most of us experienced during our playtime Oh, with Excalibur Umbra btw, outside of his 150plat skin, you can toggle the scarf and any prime parts he has on his armor to appear on those other skins.
Also, the Warframe being able to move against that sword is because they were in the Somatic link chamber where the Tenno's transference is way way stronger. I think as it stands, only Excalibur umbra is sentient, or at least that's my understanding. I didn't realise the conclusion of the Umbra quest though, and I only understood it while watching this time, so now I hate Ballas more! :3
The Orokin are a breakaway civization, and the Sentient were machines that gained sentience and rebelled hard against their makers.
You can wear Umbra's scarf and ornaments on skins and still be edgy. 😊
Also, it's okay to change his colours since he is healed now. 😋
at the one cooked chatter complaining he doesn't know how to mod:
You know why a player 200 hours in has no clue about modding? Because the game never tells you nor makes you engage with the system. They know it's too much to drop on a new player so they don't even bother anymore after putting a tutorial button with basic information lol
Is Natah the Daughter of Hunhow
Demonizing an entire company and business model because of some random worst case scenario you made up in your head is wild
Dark Sector is a must play for the beginning lore of Warframe
"ChatGPT4 talking to ChatGPT4" :D lol
And yes, Subnautica (especially the first one) is great. I did like the 2nd one as well. The 2nd one has better systems, but the story and the immersion is not as good.
Imo first one is more scary as well
Why emote only on twitch while UA-cam is free to spoil is beyond my comprehension.
If u think the Ropapolyst fight is hard without proper explanation.. U should try day one raids in Destiny 2 XD
Maybe just watch a Lore Video
Oh and before the New War ,talk to the family in the Necralisk first i'll explain why soon
He shouldn't be in Duviri before Sacrifice and new war.
is it a contractual requirement of streamers that they have a 2nd grade level reading skill? jesus christ