@@kellytourigny6263 it was actually their furnace that they didn’t properly turn off,Lemmino proved how it happened on his channel. Their furnace basically broke and they all panicked in fear they would starve.
funny how the delivery makes so much difference in the tone and mood of the video, Lemmino's version was delivered in so much eeriness and horror that shook the bone, meanwhile T2 has a more lax approach with jokes along the side
In light of all the speculation surrounding what happened at Dyatlov Pass, the only survivor, Yuri Yudin, was often asked what he thought happened to his companions. He maintained until his death in 2013 that the Soviet military had to be involved in the deaths. Yudin believed his friends stumbled across a military exercise and that the Soviet government bore responsibility for the loss of his companions. He said that all his companions were expert hikers and skiers and were well equipped to handle natural phenomena like avalanches or snowstorms. Yudin noted that after searchers found the campsite, the military was more concerned with what the skiers were doing in the area, not what had happened to them. After searchers found the hikers, Yudin was asked to identify the items collected at the campsite. Yudin said some items did not belong to his fellow hikers, including glasses, a pair of skis, fragments of a ski, and a piece of cloth he identified as part of a soldier's coat. In a journal that Yudin kept all his research of the event in, which came to light after his death, Yudin referred to "soldiers' tape" and wrote he was confident it was among the items he was asked to identify. Yudin claims in his journal that he tried to bring this to the colonel's attention who was with him at the time, but he ignored it. Yudin speculated that before the official search found the hikers' campsite, the military had already been there and pointed to these items as proof. Yudin also posed the rhetorical question: if something as mundane as an avalanche caused the death of his friends, why did the government close the case so quickly and mark it as classified? Yudin also noted in his journal that there was one factor at the site of his friends' deaths that none of the "normal" suggestions could explain: the mild radioactivity of the clothes and bodies of the deceased hikers.
Maybe they resorted to torture to find out what they were doing there and ended up carrying dangerous experiments out on them and when they died, they left them out there in the snow which could explain all the strange things about the bodies. Does that sound too retarded
@@enjuci2754 can't say it sounds retarded. But what "strange" things are you referring to? Its normal to have radiation on your clothes when you work in a nuclear facility. It's normal to suffer internal injuries when falling down a ravine. Its normal for scavenging animals to consume softer tissues first. Lots of things can seem strange taken out of context. But when looking at the big picture it may be perfectly normal.
@@enjuci2754 i know you don't think, lol. Often people just have clothes. They often wear their clothes when they leave the house. They wear their clothes to work. They wear their clothes hiking. The clothes they wear are the same. While it's true wealthy or obsessed people may have different clothes for different things sans uniforms, this is not the norm especially in a nation where the general population has less than some. Another key factor you missed is only two of the hikers has radiation on their clothes, the two who worked in a nuclear facility. I recommend doing some research before you open your mouth and insert your foot, again.
Rustem and Gieorgij were working in a power plan during cleaning nuclear waste, hence the radiation. The 50s were unfortunate for ZSSR, and there was not much to invest to buy modern work protection. Errors in power plants were happening, much before Prypeć. As long as they weren't absolutely critical, people were sent to clean up wearing mockery of a safe suit. The pubic was being told that that is not a huge danger and the cases were covered up. Really, I hate that the case is so sensationalized that nobody knows the name of the victims. And I don't blame you for that. It's this kind of videos that presents the case in order to make it more mysterious. That's such a waste of potential, because there's so much to talk about and that topic is an amazing occasion to talk about complicated history and sociological mechanisms. Media coverage has had a huge impact on social perception of said tragedy, and I believe that the story and the victims deserve more. I could go on for hours, I have been really fascinated by this case since ages, and I'm getting frustrated that so many of real questions and hypothesis are not talked about because creators, who decide to talk about this even, are using cheap sensation as an artistic move. When it comes to this tragedy it's easy to tell, which creator was making a real research. Like, I know nobody is writing a PhD on UA-camUA-cam, but a article from a gossip paper without any footnote is not a source. Thank you for coming to my TedTalk, I'm sorry. I just got too invested, and I have too much time today.
@@jeremyr722 what about footprints? It can’t be animals. An avalanche would’ve covered the bodies so they wouldn’t be able to find them as animals, and so the animal footprints wouldn’t have been hidden by the avalanche, nor does it explain theirs not being hidden but no animal ones, and there’s then no explanation for running from no footprints and the weird clothing. That could be hyperthermia delusion but there would be tracks if the animals found the bodies later.
The dyatlov pass incident is one of the most fascinating, crazy a mysterious cases I have ever heard. Watched any and all material I see about it, and it's still has never ceased to absolutely fascinate me
Hyperthermia can have an amazing effects on the mind, just like LSD. Somehow it makes the abnormal, normal and slipping into death or doing something that will cause death is not that crazy. Especially if... at the time you think it will make you safe.
@Madara Uchiha I am a fan of this incident like a lot of people here. The Russians back in the day did a great investigation; go research their material.
Could an Almasty (south central Asian Bigfoot) have been responsible for attacking their bodies? (I do realize there's no evidence of footprints of one.)
@@roserevancroix2308 the original comment is a skyrim quote reference and the irony in that 1 dude the soul survivor only survived because he had to go back down because his knees where having problems, first 2 replies a skyrim quote, the 3rd isnt a quote but a continued joke from the comment and the replies
A weapon's test makes the most sense imo, could easily explain the radiation, strange injuries, subjective panic & why the government tried to cover it up.
I can remember reading somewhere that there was a broken compass found in the tent. The luminous paint used in compasses up until the 1960’s was based on radium which is highly radioactive and could explain why there was radiation found on the bodies.
It's actually called 'Dead Mountain', it's a common mistake made when talking about this case. It's called that because there's a shortage of life there. Barely any trees, plant life, etc.
@@markjaycox8811 I agree.. The remaining evidence of such bizarre behavior from the group coupled with their injuries and the fact the group didn't seem to ever attempt to rejoin one another. What force could cause all these events to occur in the way they did? So far the answer is completely unknown..
@@melloyellogsxr I may be involved is what I am saying. I was mind merged with an APE @ MONTAUK January 1958. I go missing for a year May 2, 1960- the day after our U-2 is shot down over the USSR. I am KING NINE, aka as AGENT K. The 9-3-60 TWILIGHT ZONE is the secret precursor to the 1962 THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, and only James Cole of TWELVE MONKEYS could tell you so. I just received memory of landing in Kecksburg PA December 1965 with 2 diapered and cloned HITLER'S with painted on pupils. My grandfather HOMER JAYCOX was fishing buddies with POTUS EISENHOWER.
@@markjaycox8811 wow man! That's...ahh.. Something.. You should know this is the part of my day where i like to wind down and relax and enjoy some of my pleasures of this world. which is basically a bowl or two followed by a couple oxy's. My point is, you have caught me at a particular time where my thoughts on what i just read from what you have just written has brought me to two conclusions and I don't feel like i should be held completely responsible for them ok 👌. My first thought was well, respectfully of course. Well i think that you are freakin bonkers man. I mean just... Completely insane (no offense) and have you read what you have written? Are the nurses aware that you have access to the internet and are interacting with individuals through it? My second thought was that what you have written was so insane that no one would ever believe it and therefore a good chance that all of it may be true. Either way man. (And with ALL DUE RESPECT)I'm kinda afraid of you and it's probably best we part ways here but it was nice talking to you.. I'm just a functioning junkie and not a licensed crazy person doctor and i don't want to be responsible for saying anything to you that may cause further damage to whatever the hell is going on up there in your noodle. Good lucky buddy
Dead Mountain was an interesting book covering this incident, goes into depth on some of the explanations mentioned here. Worth a read; I enjoyed it. To be fair I find the whole thing fascinating so thanks for covering this, T2!
Ah yes, the avalanch that crushed them while they were in their tents, and then the avalanch got up and walked away, leaving no trace of ever having been there, and also fixed up the tents afterwards.
it wasnt an avalanche moron. insane gusts of frozen winds, they knew it was coming, they heard it in the distance and did the only thing they could do, which was run away as fast as possible, typically only a couple hundred meters is fine, and come back once it passed. sadly that didnt go well for them.
I have watched a ton of videos here on UA-cam. And I have rejected a ton of videos here on UA-cam that were created with someone reading their email letters or something equally dull and boring. So I don't generally like someone standing in front of a camera just saying words. HOWEVER, your videos are an exception! Your voice is soothing and melodic, your content is fantastic, and you have a good sense of humor. I have just added a huge list of your videos to my "watch later" list. And for some of them, I just can't wait!!! I don't know all of the topics you have discussed, but I would sure love to see you take on the mystery of Portlock, Alaska. Keep up the great work!!!!
I know I feel so bad for all of them! Especially for the person who had a missing tounge, eyes, and some of their lips. How the hell does that even happen with no tracks left behind😢
There were 2 moments in my life, when I could've died, even though I took it too easy, but Dyatlov pass mystery fucks with my soul, really terrifies Me, I've been working as mountain guide for many years already and imagining something like this could happen to Me and my group is lot to think about.
Yeah definitely. Been wondering how in the world is it even possible to produce such high quality videos with tons of effects and transitions that look great this often. Like how does one person manage all that if it's just Thoughty2 doing all the work on the vids. And how does one get such good effects and music to use, surely he doesn't make it all by himself. And judging how it takes me atleast an hour and a half to make a simple gaming montage with free YT music. I wonder how long it takes to make a video like Thoughty2's.
Tbf, it is the most believable theory. Especially if you remember wolverines exist in that area and they are basically big scary skunks. Imagine if a wolverine starts rummaging in your tent's entrance, then gets stuck in the tarp, gets scared, sprays extremely smelly stuff all over the place... I would also cut a hole in my tent and try to get away until I can breathe again.
He can be my desperate neighbor ANY DAY... his voice is one of comfort, a safe haven after a shitty week at work. Carry on, Ill listen to you reading the phone book
Dude, I don't even have words for how much I enjoy your channel. Been watching for along time and still just love it. Keep up the good work you deserve everything youtube has to offer.
10:58 I’ve taken more shrooms than most people could imagine at once and never have I gouged peoples eyes out and beaten them to death in the woods. Definitely don’t think it had anything to do with magic mushrooms😂😂
@@chrollodranx-hunter3389 honestly whatever you enjoy. I find when I take psychedelics I prefer to do things I enjoy instead of doing things that everyone suggests doing while tripping. Because tripping is very different between everyone.
@@chrollodranx-hunter3389 YT keep blocking my comment, ffs... But yeah, Psychedelic, Acid and Space rock. I've got a playlist on Spotify in you're interested (not everything is everyone's taste). It's called 'Psychedelic Classics'. Enjoy!
I have hunted for any and every content about this incident. I can say, your story telling is the best. Your use of softcore pics, simple maps gave me complete view of the location. Good work.
@@First.Last.99 Yeah, kind of. Really sucks that he didn't mentioned the expensive cameras found in the tent that would have been unaffordable for students. Or that Zolotaryov was in affect 10 years older than the rest of them. Dyatlov let him into the group which wasn't to the liking of the others. There is really something strange about him as he seems to have nothing in common with the rest of them besides randomly joining their trip. He even spoke to his students (he was a sport teacher) about doing something significant on that journey. But the fact that the KGB retained two of the corpses (Zolotaryov included) for several weeks before hastily burying them is probably still my favorite.
I got curious about the chase did a whole search, then i found 9 hours later he uploaded a video about it like 5 minutes after i started my research,... i´m unlucky
Glad somebody else has watched his video, I found it be be a very well put together breakdown on what most probably happened. To be honest we will probably never be 100% sure bit his breakdown of it is imho the nearest we have to the truth. Still the "Incident" has made for a lot of entertaining videos on it, Even Anton from WhattheMath did a video on it. It's just sad that so many people died.
This story always fascinated me and I've researched it quite a bit. The slab avalanche theory is still the strongest, in my opinion. I could see the group heading down the mountain to avoid further injury and then realizing they'll need to survive the night without a tent. One group stays put to start a fire, another group goes to find food, water, or possibly a better campsite, the last group head back to the tent to try to salvage more supplies. Two of those groups freeze to death in the open wind, the other falls down a ravine while trying to reach a water source (or maybe it just caught them off-guard in the dark?). The military interference seems like they were trying to cover their asses in case their parachute mine testing _did_ contribute to the tragedy (it's totally possible they were just as confused about this case as we all are), but backed off over time. I feel like this covers all the oddities I've heard. Lemmino did a good job explaining the radiation, and the broken branches above the campfire spot just sounds like they were desperately trying to find dry wood. BUT the Yuri journals are intriguing, and with every fresh account of this story, I seem to find new unexplained details that make it all the more fascinating. I don't think I'll ever not be interested in this case until we can time travel and actually witness what happened.
That dude with the fake accent going after anyone tha dares to call it an alien abduction case and to give them a shot of CIA like agenda berating by calling anyone conspiracy theorists. This is almost an identical situation with the Todd Sees incident when he was hunting in the woods of rural Pennsylvania around 2002.
I just love the way you narrate your chosen topics. Great talent...humour and wit, hilarious commentary on individual flaws of the dramatis personae and keeping it interesting all the way through , please keep the stories coming , you little genius.
I always felt the tent flap was blocked in order for them to cut themselves out rather than just unzip the flap. Thanks for the channel. Always interesting.
@@the_ghost_orchid you sound like you believe the earth is flat but are trying to hide it because you don’t want your parents to know, they already think that you’re a disappointment but if they know that you believe that myth, then you will be disowned, and you don’t want to be in the streets because you work for minimum wage with a girlfriend/boyfriend that’s abusive but theyre the only person you actually trust even though you know their abusive ways, and that they know if you break up with them you will be the one losing because they’re cheating on you but you have yet to figure that out. your manager hates you and you’re a nightmare to work with.
12:51 I heard the radiation was actually because one of the hikers was a chemistry student who had worked with radioactive materials. They had less safety standards back then, so it wouldn't be out of place
My dad born in 1944, worked in a chemistry lab. When experimenting with mercury, any spills would be scooped up by hand and put back in the jar. No gloves. indeed different times.
@@petermoller4610 You can safely drink mercury(which people did in Middle Ages). Inhaling the vapors and contact with open wounds are deadly. Bathing in mercury with gas mask on isn't.
@@TheSteelRoad That is true. At the very least, one of them being a chemistry student who handled radioactive material and accidentally spread radiation around a bit is a lot more probable than aliens or nuclear weapons.
@@ToastyNoneofyourbusiness Exactly. So many of the odd variables in this case have a reasonable explanation. However, conspiracy theories and people misreporting the facts the throughout the decades has caused people to believe the more crazier theories. For example: the woman who had the missing eyes and tongue was found face down in a ravine after months of laying under a mound of snow. The person who performed the autopsy wrote that was due to soft tissue decomposition. Yet, people still believe it was due to a yeti attack, aliens, or by another person.
I’ve always wondered how exactly there were prints after more than a week in a place that snowed pretty much daily or constantly so how exactly did they find all this great evidence like prints and tents and etc
Been on your channel nonstop for like 2 months now ... I feel like you're either the history teacher I wish I had... Or that buddy at the pub who has all the cool stories ! ..
I think it was actually solved thanks to Frozen’s animation for snow. A meteorologist (specifically a man who specialized in snow and avalanches) noticed how realistic the animation was, and (with permission and help from the animators) took their design and applied it to the conditions seen in Dylatov’s Pass. Ask A Mortician has a video that explains it MUCH better than I could.
An avalanche would have flattened their tent, and their footprints would have been obviously on avalanche debris or completely obliterated if made in front of it while escaping. The radioactive alien Yeti theory does not have those awkward conundrums.
@@johnmead8437Didn’t they cut their way out of the tent? That gives them the ability to make the tracks that were found. Also, I personally think the radioactivity was played up. Until I know the type of radiation, I pretty much dismiss that evidence. Ever hear of the Radium Girls? Or how there used to be nuclear material in Quaker Oats (I believe I was taught that, but someone please correct me if I’m wrong)? Radiation wasn’t yet considered the public health risk we know it is today. I could also be convinced of a Russian Military cover up, given the KGB’s shadiness, but I’d need more proof. For now, I’m pretty satisfied with the avalanche conclusion.
@@HavianEla The thoughts being why cut your way out of a standing tent, would need to be organised to do this. And footprints are made on top of avalanche debris, those under it are gone.
@Red Dwarf Magic? Maybe the title seemed good already? Maybe op always says he doubts it will change even when it does change? How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop? The world may never know
Given the track record of the Soviets, I doubt anyone will ever get a clear picture. They were experienced and would have really considered their surroundings before setting up camp. Just weird, probably a test that carried out with an unintended fallout. It's very sad but probably what happened. Must have been one tidy avalanche though. Nice enough to pick up after itself.
Hi Thoughty2, thanks for this video! I was for years fascinated by this case, and the last discovery seems to bring us the classic Occam's Razor - the simplest solution is the most probable one... I love how this new theory fills perfectly all the gaps and leaves nothing to guess...
Except making classified a simple avalanche is a bad explanation. The explanation needs to explain all the facts. And the suspicious actions of the government and military are unexplained. So running and hiding an Occams Razor is usually a trick spies use to quiet the discussion. Despite that many facts remain unexplained. Testing of weapons on the other hand explains all the facts but noone will fund scientists to prove that theory.
I thought the snow simulator program, for the movie Frozen, helped solve the mystery. At least its the best theory so far. Saw this on ask a mortician with Caitlin Doughty
I love the way he always says "except for abc... but we'll get to that in a minute" to keep you watching. Thoroughly hilarious, but also a shrewd UA-camr indeed. #muchlove
I also saw the Anton Petrov explanation but still does not answer the stranger parts of the incident such as radiation and the missing parts of the bodies did not seem to indicate scavenging.
There's another case that happened in the Russian wilderness that's very similar to Dyatlov pass. But there was a survivor!! She said everyone literally went insane in front of her eyes, started tearing their clothes off, started smashing their own faces and bodies onto rocks. If she had died too, no one would know what happened to all the people she was with (who _all_ died). They still can't explain what made them go crazy all at once though!
@@brandilee9834 the case actually happened in a snowy mountain pass in Russia, just like this one, and again with extremely experienced hikers. They even made a documentary about it!! Yet in all the videos I've seen about Dyatlov, that other case is never mentioned!!!
I heard about this years ago on Coast 2 Coast am. It was one of my all time favorite shows. The most fascinating part is they cut their way out the back of the tent.
Hey! How are you feeling now? Hope you're doing better! We're all pretty down because of all the isolation business but we'll get through it in the end.
Hang on my brother. Love comes and love goes, as does happiness and so too eventually life. But you have a role to play in the ultimate destiny of the world and the unapologetic pursuit of what you find meaningful, and upholding sufficient responsibility for that, is the antidote to all that induces suffering, as well as the greatest gift you can bless upon yourself and the world at large. Its always the worst times that define us the most, all one can do is smile proudly in the face of that and pursue the highest good they can conceive of in lieu of life’s suffering. Its the prerequisite for the Heroes journey and the only good fight there is.
So you're sick? That would be the only reason to be isolating yourself, so I hope you get well soon. It took me a couple of days to get over it, but at least I got some rest.
It was an avalanche according to Caitlin Dougherty(ask a mortician). She explains how scientists hooked up with the animators from 'Frozen' movie' and used their algorithm to recreate the snow conditions.
@@shubniggurath3947 The levels of radiation were quite low, and were most likely caused by the thorium, a radioactive element, that was used in their lanterns.
No it wasn't one of them had a job that worked with radioactive materials. This has all come out. And every thing has been explained. The radio active theory was just from conspiracy theorist. It's always been known where it came from the guys work environment. This story been solved forever. But youtubers like this guy just keep stealing others content without research. UA-cam is just about recycling others old videos for content. Most youtubers are washed up now and play the marry go round game.
Dead Mountain by Donnie Eichar is a great book on the matter. He goes to Russia, talks to surviving family members, works with scientists to come to a fairly reasonable conclusion.
Could you do one on all the deadly things in Australia from the Gympie Gympie tree to the cassowary inland tiapan and funnel web spiders oh and the crocs sharks jellies and octopuses?
As a private, American citizen, speaking to private, Russian citizens: I'm a fan. I'm a fan of your spirit, your bravado, your struggles and triumphs, and your legends. I see more in common between us than what's not in common, and I'm a fangirl! 😊
one guy : there's an avalanche coming, we gotta leave fast the other guy : wait, is it my or your t shirt ? and for the eyes i guess being hit in the face with enough violence either by a bunch of solid snow or during th fall could have caused that
There are 2 kinds of people I commonly see when it comes to Dyatlov pass: Ones who realized this has already been solved, and those who ignore it because they want to believe in something supernatural.
Also, in the case of a slab avalanche, it wouldnt be unheard of for the potential force of the ice & snow on the human body (especially if hit from behind like they likely would likely have been if fleeing) to be great enough to literally pop the eyeballs from the sockets & cause the tongues to be bitten off. This commonly happens in more severe car crashes.
@@YellowPenetrator The woman with the missing eyes and tongue was found face down in a ravine after being covered in snow for months. The person who performed the autopsy themselves wrote it was due to the soft tissue rapidly decomposing.
how are you writing comments post mortem? are you a zombie? a literate zombie? literally a literate zombie? literally a little literate zombie? damn, I need to lay off the weed.
@@cornpop1363 🌸😌I do not know why I need to explain the concept of figure of speech to you as I would assume that you are an average adult of reasonable intelligence😌🌸
Read about this so many times. The fact too that as one onlooker said, the bodies were a strange reddish orange, hair turned grey, immediate aging, and the coffins were lined with lead. I mean I realize as bodies deteriorate some things happen but this just seemed so extreme. They've had mummies thousands of years old that were in better shape in Peru of course, in a drier environment. The strange last photo of a flashing light on their camera. Yes, glowing orbs another hiking Troup saw that night in the sky, something that was a recurrence on the mountain according to the Mansi. It's still very mysterious that they cut through their tent too when it had flaps.
@@fieryapple7020 You like the dramatic theory with no explanation; I like the practical theory with explanation...Quoting Declan Seraphina “I think the group were sleeping in their tent when a katabatic wind occurred. It would have been like a crushing avalanche of air. It’s uncommon but not unusual in those conditions and apparently the slope on the pass that they set up camp on was the perfect slope for that kind of wind. It would have flattened the tent with immense pressure, essentially turning their shelter into a trap, constricting and suffocating them, it would have been impossible to survive in the tent and when they cut their way out it would have been impossible to survive outside staying with the tent, it also may have been difficult if possible at all to retrieve anything from the tent while it was being flattened by the wind. Now outside the tent in temperatures of -20° to -30° the wind would have been pushing them around while pelting them with ice and snow and stones. It seems like the group hurriedly packed a tight pile of snow on the tent in the centre to stop it from blowing away then placed a torch on top as a beacon and left to seek other shelter to wait for the wind to subside. On Kholat Syakhl, there are 4 main ridges that run down the mountain; The north-east ridge, the east ridge which leads to Dyatlov pass, the south-west ridge and the north-west ridge. The group was camped towards the peak where the north-east and east ridges connect, if the group had gone down towards the trees at the bottom of the mountain between the east ridge/Dyatlov pass and the south-west ridge, it would have lead them to the their storage house which would have provided shelter from the cold and wind, they would have had supplies and been able to bunker down and start a fire. I believe they misjudged the direction and went towards the trees at the bottom of the mountain between the north-east ridge and the east ridge/Dyatlov pass by mistake. The location the bodies were found and the storage house were both around the same distance from tent but on opposite sides of Dyatlov Pass. The group then realised they were lost and that the distance they had traveled in life threatening conditions had been in vain, they were now almost a mile from the tent and with the winds too strong to make it back up the mountain, they lit a fire by the big cedar tree to stay as warm as possible while they figured out what to do next or waited with the hopes that the wind would subside soon. It seems like Doroshenko and Krivonischenko had scrapes and bruises consistent with climbing and hoisting themselves up a tree, possibly to get wood for the fire and also possibly to try and get a better view of their surroundings, the tent or to look for the storage house. The tip of Krivonischenko's nose was missing which could have been caused by him scraping it against the tree while climbing it as traces of skin were found embedded in the trunk, Krivonischenko and Doroshenko being away from the fire for long periods would explain why it seems like they died of hypothermia first while the group were all waiting around the fire. It seems like The other hikers pulled and tore clothes for themselves from the two bodies, leaving them in their underwear. This would also explain the trace amounts of radiation found on clothes worn by some members of the group as a couple of the hikers actually worked with radiation in their jobs, Krivonischenko was one of them, he worked in a plutonium plant. We also know for certain that Doroshenko was moved and repositioned at least 3 hours after his death as he was found by search parties laying on his front but Livor Mortis had already begun to set in. Livor mortis is the 4th stage of death where the blood in the body starts to settle towards the ground because of gravity, causing a blueish-purple bruising like discolouration in the parts/side of the body closest to the ground. In Doroshenko’s case, this was visible across his shoulders and the back of his neck indicated that he was laying on his back when he died or for some time immediately following his death. Note that Livor Mortis begins to occur at least 20 minutes after death but does not progress to the point where it is visible until at least 3 hours after death. It is also possible that freezing temperatures may have slowed this process down. Then the group moved 75m along the tree line to dig out a shelter in the side of the ravine to protect themselves from the cold and wind but the shelter collapsed, 4 metres of snow and ice came crushing down on Zolotaryov, Thibeaux-Brignollles and Dubinina causing their fatal head and chest injuries, and injuring Slobodin which explains his non-lethal skull fracture, kolevatov was not crushed but died of hypothermia while caved in at the back of the collapsed shelter cradling Zolotaryov. The ravine during other seasons is actually a creek and when it began to thaw it partially washed Dubinina out from under the snow, leaving her body face down in the flowing water, she was missing her eyes, tongue and tissue from around her nose and cheeks due to her chest and face decaying much faster in the water than the rest of her frozen body. Post mortem photos do indicate that her face was in the more advanced stages of decay than the rest of her and the others bodies. This leaves Slobodin, Dyatlov, and Kolmogorova who tried to make it back to the tent but one by one died of hypothermia at different points along the way. This theory may not be as sensationalized as yetis or aliens, it doesn’t involve an avalanche as there were no signs of one and the group were experienced enough to know avalanches are extremely unlikely on a slope as gradual as the one they were camped on, it doesn’t involve drink or drugs because these individuals knew better and took ski-hiking seriously since they were doing this for certifications and qualifications, it doesn’t demonize indigenous people known to be peaceful, and doesn’t point fingers at the government or secret service when there was no evidence of their presence or involvement. No footprints belonging to anyone other than the 9 members of Dyatlov’s group were ever found in the area nor was there any signs of damage to the area that would indicate weapon detonations. It’s more likely that the cause was a collection of factors centered around exposure to the elements since exposure is often the most common cause of death for hikers. Something similar to this case actually happened at Anaris Mountain, Sweden in 1978 on a near identical slope where 8 individuals died and one was seriously injured but survived, the cause was a katabatic wind.”
@@fieryapple7020 Of course, you are right. Somebody terrified the group, it appears they were stalked, then they fled, finally they were captured, tortured, murdered, and dumped nearby for authorities to find their handiwork. It's the only thing that makes a lick of sense!
@@YY-wu7et Not that anyone got atomized, even if they did, it would be the Russian government considering the KGB were all over this case. Honestly the weapons testing theory is the only one that actually makes logical sense here
The way this story has been told certainly makes it sound more mysterious. I also think that some of the details got lost in translation. Take for instance the fact that two of the bodies had higher than normal levels of radiation. It sounds odd until you find out that those two people actually worked at a nuclear power station. The ones that had their eyes and tongues missing were obviously from animals after they died. The whole ‘why did they run from their tent from the inside in their night clothes would be because of a fire. Granted, I would LOVE nothing more than for it to be because of Aliens or Cthulhu or something UNKNOWN, but if there is one thing I have learned from watching videos like this is that it’s never ever aliens, ancient or otherwise.
@@gokusaiyajin3910 there are migratory and non migratory birds. Where I live in North America, crows stick around while geese and hummingbirds migrate south to warmer climates. So yes there would have been birds.
Seriously, I have studied this topic to death. I know this much: leaving the safety and comfort of the tent underclothed in darkness and bitter cold was a death sentence.
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Lemmino solved the Dyatlov Pass on his channel
New subscriber aquired
@@kellytourigny6263 it was actually their furnace that they didn’t properly turn off,Lemmino proved how it happened on his channel. Their furnace basically broke and they all panicked in fear they would starve.
Don't need to guess. Maybe do your research properly:
ua-cam.com/video/vRQNJw-4mB8/v-deo.html
By the way. The furnace theory sucks
funny how the delivery makes so much difference in the tone and mood of the video, Lemmino's version was delivered in so much eeriness and horror that shook the bone, meanwhile T2 has a more lax approach with jokes along the side
Yeah, the mood of this video felt like the mood of an Ace Attorney case.
@@bubbleburster2813 "haha yeah! look at this case boy, 9 people died and no one knows why? time to put on our detective mini-game!"
I recommend watching Nick Crowley’s cover on the topic
I miss Lemmino's video...at this point, I would be glad for another Top 10 Space Facts...or just memes for that matter.
@matty kelly Great seeing a MrBallen fan here! 💙
In light of all the speculation surrounding what happened at Dyatlov Pass, the only survivor, Yuri Yudin, was often asked what he thought happened to his companions. He maintained until his death in 2013 that the Soviet military had to be involved in the deaths. Yudin believed his friends stumbled across a military exercise and that the Soviet government bore responsibility for the loss of his companions. He said that all his companions were expert hikers and skiers and were well equipped to handle natural phenomena like avalanches or snowstorms.
Yudin noted that after searchers found the campsite, the military was more concerned with what the skiers were doing in the area, not what had happened to them.
After searchers found the hikers, Yudin was asked to identify the items collected at the campsite. Yudin said some items did not belong to his fellow hikers, including glasses, a pair of skis, fragments of a ski, and a piece of cloth he identified as part of a soldier's coat. In a journal that Yudin kept all his research of the event in, which came to light after his death, Yudin referred to "soldiers' tape" and wrote he was confident it was among the items he was asked to identify. Yudin claims in his journal that he tried to bring this to the colonel's attention who was with him at the time, but he ignored it. Yudin speculated that before the official search found the hikers' campsite, the military had already been there and pointed to these items as proof.
Yudin also posed the rhetorical question: if something as mundane as an avalanche caused the death of his friends, why did the government close the case so quickly and mark it as classified?
Yudin also noted in his journal that there was one factor at the site of his friends' deaths that none of the "normal" suggestions could explain: the mild radioactivity of the clothes and bodies of the deceased hikers.
Of course a russian would suspect the military. They would know what the military is capable of.
Maybe they resorted to torture to find out what they were doing there and ended up carrying dangerous experiments out on them and when they died, they left them out there in the snow which could explain all the strange things about the bodies.
Does that sound too retarded
@@enjuci2754 can't say it sounds retarded. But what "strange" things are you referring to?
Its normal to have radiation on your clothes when you work in a nuclear facility.
It's normal to suffer internal injuries when falling down a ravine.
Its normal for scavenging animals to consume softer tissues first.
Lots of things can seem strange taken out of context. But when looking at the big picture it may be perfectly normal.
And I don't think he would wear his normal radioactivity infested clothes to go hiking
@@enjuci2754 i know you don't think, lol. Often people just have clothes. They often wear their clothes when they leave the house. They wear their clothes to work. They wear their clothes hiking. The clothes they wear are the same. While it's true wealthy or obsessed people may have different clothes for different things sans uniforms, this is not the norm especially in a nation where the general population has less than some.
Another key factor you missed is only two of the hikers has radiation on their clothes, the two who worked in a nuclear facility.
I recommend doing some research before you open your mouth and insert your foot, again.
Omg I haven’t watched in almost 2 years and he looks like a ww1 commander 😂😂😂
Most people compare him to a lumberjack but you are kind of right tbh😂
I want a moustache like that
He is history
He is knowledge
Officer Thoughty2
I’ve spent years wondering if it’s a disguise and he’s secretly superman
an avalanche that rips peoples eyes out, leaves traces of radiation and shaves their eyebrows, sounds legit to me
Well pressure lamp mantles are radioactive. And wildlife could have eaten out the eyes. The eyebrows tho... that’s got me stumped
Rustem and Gieorgij were working in a power plan during cleaning nuclear waste, hence the radiation. The 50s were unfortunate for ZSSR, and there was not much to invest to buy modern work protection. Errors in power plants were happening, much before Prypeć. As long as they weren't absolutely critical, people were sent to clean up wearing mockery of a safe suit. The pubic was being told that that is not a huge danger and the cases were covered up. Really, I hate that the case is so sensationalized that nobody knows the name of the victims. And I don't blame you for that. It's this kind of videos that presents the case in order to make it more mysterious. That's such a waste of potential, because there's so much to talk about and that topic is an amazing occasion to talk about complicated history and sociological mechanisms. Media coverage has had a huge impact on social perception of said tragedy, and I believe that the story and the victims deserve more. I could go on for hours, I have been really fascinated by this case since ages, and I'm getting frustrated that so many of real questions and hypothesis are not talked about because creators, who decide to talk about this even, are using cheap sensation as an artistic move. When it comes to this tragedy it's easy to tell, which creator was making a real research. Like, I know nobody is writing a PhD on UA-camUA-cam, but a article from a gossip paper without any footnote is not a source. Thank you for coming to my TedTalk, I'm sorry. I just got too invested, and I have too much time today.
@@AamuAurora thats alright, thank you for this insight
@@jeremyr722 what about footprints? It can’t be animals. An avalanche would’ve covered the bodies so they wouldn’t be able to find them as animals, and so the animal footprints wouldn’t have been hidden by the avalanche, nor does it explain theirs not being hidden but no animal ones, and there’s then no explanation for running from no footprints and the weird clothing. That could be hyperthermia delusion but there would be tracks if the animals found the bodies later.
@@jeremyr722 the eyebrows could’ve been a dare done earlier since no hair was found or be removed by mansi or another tribe or life.
The dyatlov pass incident is one of the most fascinating, crazy a mysterious cases I have ever heard. Watched any and all material I see about it, and it's still has never ceased to absolutely fascinate me
Hyperthermia can have an amazing effects on the mind, just like LSD. Somehow it makes the abnormal, normal and slipping into death or doing something that will cause death is not that crazy.
Especially if... at the time you think it will make you safe.
If you haven't found it already ask a mortician has a video on the subject as well
@Madara Uchiha I am a fan of this incident like a lot of people here. The Russians back in the day did a great investigation; go research their material.
@@FosukeLordOfError Its crazy timing with this video. I think the new info in her video is really interesting!
Could an Almasty (south central Asian Bigfoot) have been responsible for attacking their bodies? (I do realize there's no evidence of footprints of one.)
imagine surviving a horror movie because you have bad knees..
I used to be an adventurer like you ....
@@kris4247 Then I took an arrow In the knee.
Meta-Tom Hanks: “Earn this. Earn it.”
What?
@@roserevancroix2308 the original comment is a skyrim quote reference and the irony in that 1 dude the soul survivor only survived because he had to go back down because his knees where having problems, first 2 replies a skyrim quote, the 3rd isnt a quote but a continued joke from the comment and the replies
A weapon's test makes the most sense imo, could easily explain the radiation, strange injuries, subjective panic & why the government tried to cover it up.
Could also be the cause of an avalanche
How do you explain the missing organs.
@Sean Price even if they had been dropping explosives on it? And in the video they even say an avalanche is possible
@@Eurisko229 animals
@@andrewmb1908 dumb
I can remember reading somewhere that there was a broken compass found in the tent. The luminous paint used in compasses up until the 1960’s was based on radium which is highly radioactive and could explain why there was radiation found on the bodies.
Honestly the only good explanation for it
@@LenientCrabClawthe ones found with radiation worked at a reactor
Your careful attempts at pronouncing the names are quite admirable
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I agree
Privet Andrey
@@dashingdave2665 privet Andrey!
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“Death mountain”
Oh yes, let’s go hiking there
Maybe we’ll meet a Goron
@@sir_vaughn2018 aww beat me to it albeit 20 hours late
It's actually called 'Dead Mountain', it's a common mistake made when talking about this case. It's called that because there's a shortage of life there. Barely any trees, plant life, etc.
Such an apealing name.
@@rh1507
Les go!
That guy that didn't follow through with the hike is one of the luckiest man on earth!
Exactly what I thought
Some might say he is the unluckiest ,he lost some friends, good friends
Maybe he killed them?
@@younglord7805 Perhaps so but i doubt it
Plot twist: He was a mad serial killer.
Strikes me as odd that, after 10 days or so in the Russian winter, they still immediately found all their footprints...
yea i thougt that too
Yeah it is odd..
Didn't snow simple
@@matthewsutton2615 Quite optimistic in a Russian winter you know...
Well have you any ideas about this then? Any theory’s you have?
I've heard this story many times and it's definitely one of my favorite unsolved mysteries.. Your mind runs wild with frightening theories..
Not as frightening as the HOW it occurred.
@@markjaycox8811 I agree.. The remaining evidence of such bizarre behavior from the group coupled with their injuries and the fact the group didn't seem to ever attempt to rejoin one another. What force could cause all these events to occur in the way they did? So far the answer is completely unknown..
@@melloyellogsxr I may be involved is what I am saying. I was mind merged with an APE @ MONTAUK January 1958. I go missing for a year May 2, 1960- the day after our U-2 is shot down over the USSR. I am KING NINE, aka as AGENT K. The 9-3-60 TWILIGHT ZONE is the secret precursor to the 1962 THE MANCHURIAN CANDIDATE, and only James Cole of TWELVE MONKEYS could tell you so. I just received memory of landing in Kecksburg PA December 1965 with 2 diapered and cloned HITLER'S with painted on pupils. My grandfather HOMER JAYCOX was fishing buddies with POTUS EISENHOWER.
@@markjaycox8811 wow man! That's...ahh.. Something.. You should know this is the part of my day where i like to wind down and relax and enjoy some of my pleasures of this world. which is basically a bowl or two followed by a couple oxy's. My point is, you have caught me at a particular time where my thoughts on what i just read from what you have just written has brought me to two conclusions and I don't feel like i should be held completely responsible for them ok 👌. My first thought was well, respectfully of course. Well i think that you are freakin bonkers man. I mean just... Completely insane (no offense) and have you read what you have written? Are the nurses aware that you have access to the internet and are interacting with individuals through it? My second thought was that what you have written was so insane that no one would ever believe it and therefore a good chance that all of it may be true. Either way man. (And with ALL DUE RESPECT)I'm kinda afraid of you and it's probably best we part ways here but it was nice talking to you.. I'm just a functioning junkie and not a licensed crazy person doctor and i don't want to be responsible for saying anything to you that may cause further damage to whatever the hell is going on up there in your noodle. Good lucky buddy
@@melloyellogsxr LMAO. Truth is scary. The "WHY" of your 2021 FANTASY.
Dead Mountain was an interesting book covering this incident, goes into depth on some of the explanations mentioned here. Worth a read; I enjoyed it. To be fair I find the whole thing fascinating so thanks for covering this, T2!
Ah yes, the avalanch that crushed them while they were in their tents, and then the avalanch got up and walked away, leaving no trace of ever having been there, and also fixed up the tents afterwards.
🍿🍿🍿 lol
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@Simp same logic here
@White lives Matter was it me? Lol
it wasnt an avalanche moron. insane gusts of frozen winds, they knew it was coming, they heard it in the distance and did the only thing they could do, which was run away as fast as possible, typically only a couple hundred meters is fine, and come back once it passed. sadly that didnt go well for them.
I have watched a ton of videos here on UA-cam. And I have rejected a ton of videos here on UA-cam that were created with someone reading their email letters or something equally dull and boring. So I don't generally like someone standing in front of a camera just saying words. HOWEVER, your videos are an exception! Your voice is soothing and melodic, your content is fantastic, and you have a good sense of humor. I have just added a huge list of your videos to my "watch later" list. And for some of them, I just can't wait!!! I don't know all of the topics you have discussed, but I would sure love to see you take on the mystery of Portlock, Alaska. Keep up the great work!!!!
Can't imagine the horror they actually went through that night 😢
I know I feel so bad for all of them! Especially for the person who had a missing tounge, eyes, and some of their lips. How the hell does that even happen with no tracks left behind😢
@@ashleecontreras4466 predatory birds usually eat things like that but those birds aren't usually native to Russia...
@@ashleecontreras4466 after someone dies of natural cause scavengers will pick off pieces of them
That's why I don't go hiking in Siberia in a blizzard.
@@Yert12742 that makes sense but were do you think the radiation came from??
There were 2 moments in my life, when I could've died, even though I took it too easy, but Dyatlov pass mystery fucks with my soul, really terrifies Me, I've been working as mountain guide for many years already and imagining something like this could happen to Me and my group is lot to think about.
Just take a GPS tracker with you, so if you do get lost or stuck, you can be quickly found.
Right, be careful of nuclear tests and yetis. That can happen to anyone,! Haha
Always have a means of self-defense in the wilderness.
@@billstrasburg384 And don't forget aliens. Them space-folk can be pretty tricky.
Watch Lemmino's video and all your answers will be there. This was a normal accident with plausible explanations
The biggest mystery is that how Thoughty2 is uploading so frequently and... it may never be solved.
Yeah definitely.
Been wondering how in the world is it even possible to produce such high quality videos with tons of effects and transitions that look great this often. Like how does one person manage all that if it's just Thoughty2 doing all the work on the vids. And how does one get such good effects and music to use, surely he doesn't make it all by himself.
And judging how it takes me atleast an hour and a half to make a simple gaming montage with free YT music. I wonder how long it takes to make a video like Thoughty2's.
He might have a team or a like splits the work with an editor. It could also be since he has done many videos he has gotten very good
@@DonkeyBallss It's not just him lmfao, he doesnt even write most of his scripts.
He's broke, he needs content.
@@marionlacebal9498 - Broke? There are so many ads his videos have become unwatchable.
I actually think the "killer fart in the tent theory" holds up. Mystery solved.
Tbf, it is the most believable theory. Especially if you remember wolverines exist in that area and they are basically big scary skunks. Imagine if a wolverine starts rummaging in your tent's entrance, then gets stuck in the tarp, gets scared, sprays extremely smelly stuff all over the place... I would also cut a hole in my tent and try to get away until I can breathe again.
Farts rise tho. I'd lay down
The mystery of the missing "Buy my new book 'Stick a flag in it'" may also never be solved!
It's just not new anymore now :(
Nope, no mystery: he has either sponsorship OR advertises his book, never both
He can be my desperate neighbor ANY DAY... his voice is one of comfort, a safe haven after a shitty week at work. Carry on, Ill listen to you reading the phone book
...TO THIS DAY.
"Poisonous Plants!" ... * Shows image of what is absolutely not a plant. *
Pffft, what's a fungi?
I was offended by this tbh
Amanita muscaria. Good times. Lol.
@@gunzakimbo fungi are classified as a kingdom, separately from the other eukaryotic kingdoms, those being Plantae, Animalia, Protozoa, and Chromista.
@@zedlepplin7834 Yeah, but we treat them as plants as they need dirt to grow...and they have no bones.
Dude, I don't even have words for how much I enjoy your channel. Been watching for along time and still just love it. Keep up the good work you deserve everything youtube has to offer.
This subject was also covered by Mr. Ballen. It is a joy to see it discussed from two different people with different styles of videos.
It definitely wasn't my yeti cousins even though they sometimes get the blame for it
Watup Foots
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Yes it was,you stomped on their tent with your big hairy bigfoot foot 😂
@@ML-gx9rp "bigfoot foot" 😂
I'm cool with you. I'm going to blame the Naughty Unicorns now.
About 2 months ago Anton Petrov did a tourough video about this and now you! Oh boy, love your stuff!
I seen that, very interesting, love antons videos and thoughty2s
was hoping to find this comment.
Hello wonderful person
Are you accusing him of paligarism?
Lol there’s tons of videos on it
10:58 I’ve taken more shrooms than most people could imagine at once and never have I gouged peoples eyes out and beaten them to death in the woods. Definitely don’t think it had anything to do with magic mushrooms😂😂
Always been curious...what music is the best for that
@@chrollodranx-hunter3389 honestly whatever you enjoy. I find when I take psychedelics I prefer to do things I enjoy instead of doing things that everyone suggests doing while tripping. Because tripping is very different between everyone.
Oh shit.
Guess I ate to many that one night then?
My bad.
@@chrollodranx-hunter3389 YT keep blocking my comment, ffs... But yeah, Psychedelic, Acid and Space rock. I've got a playlist on Spotify in you're interested (not everything is everyone's taste). It's called 'Psychedelic Classics'. Enjoy!
I didn't know Donald Duck enjoyed a spot of magic mushrooms 🤔
I have hunted for any and every content about this incident. I can say, your story telling is the best. Your use of softcore pics, simple maps gave me complete view of the location. Good work.
Not true, there are few wrong statements in this video which makes u an bad researcher.
@@First.Last.99 Yeah, kind of. Really sucks that he didn't mentioned the expensive cameras found in the tent that would have been unaffordable for students. Or that Zolotaryov was in affect 10 years older than the rest of them. Dyatlov let him into the group which wasn't to the liking of the others. There is really something strange about him as he seems to have nothing in common with the rest of them besides randomly joining their trip. He even spoke to his students (he was a sport teacher) about doing something significant on that journey. But the fact that the KGB retained two of the corpses (Zolotaryov included) for several weeks before hastily burying them is probably still my favorite.
I just searched yesterday if you had a video about the Dyatlov Pass incident and you actually upload it the next day.
I got curious about the chase did a whole search, then i found 9 hours later he uploaded a video about it like 5 minutes after i started my research,... i´m unlucky
Thoughty2: Why Can Nobody Solve the Mystery of Dyatlov Pass?
Lemmino: Am I a joke to you?
My thoughts exactly
Lemmino is a great damn channel. I wish he would put out more content. I use to watch this channel and go why does he keep calling himself 42?
Glad somebody else has watched his video, I found it be be a very well put together breakdown on what most probably happened. To be honest we will probably never be 100% sure bit his breakdown of it is imho the nearest we have to the truth. Still the "Incident" has made for a lot of entertaining videos on it, Even Anton from WhattheMath did a video on it. It's just sad that so many people died.
@@Golemofstone WhattheMath is a great channel as well
Exactly my frist thought was about Lemmino video.
I’ve been watching your videos for so long and I throughly enjoy your content
Same, I've watched him grow for years.. from a fledgling channel to a content powerhouse. I'm really happy for him.
I’ve beed watching him since the days he would wear a suit and not have that cop moustache and look like he just got out of high school.
When you learn this video is basically a straight up copy of Nick Crowley's video
Thoroughly or truly?
Both because why not. And I also remember when He didn’t have a mustache, love this guy.
This story always fascinated me and I've researched it quite a bit. The slab avalanche theory is still the strongest, in my opinion. I could see the group heading down the mountain to avoid further injury and then realizing they'll need to survive the night without a tent. One group stays put to start a fire, another group goes to find food, water, or possibly a better campsite, the last group head back to the tent to try to salvage more supplies. Two of those groups freeze to death in the open wind, the other falls down a ravine while trying to reach a water source (or maybe it just caught them off-guard in the dark?). The military interference seems like they were trying to cover their asses in case their parachute mine testing _did_ contribute to the tragedy (it's totally possible they were just as confused about this case as we all are), but backed off over time.
I feel like this covers all the oddities I've heard. Lemmino did a good job explaining the radiation, and the broken branches above the campfire spot just sounds like they were desperately trying to find dry wood. BUT the Yuri journals are intriguing, and with every fresh account of this story, I seem to find new unexplained details that make it all the more fascinating. I don't think I'll ever not be interested in this case until we can time travel and actually witness what happened.
Hello from the Ural Mountains ! It’s not as bad is he makes it seem over here 😉
But do you see very many strange lights, advanced crafts, and lawless superhumans?
So is the Yeti fact or fiction?
@@JackRowsey Fact. Sasquatch, fact.
@@AverageAmerican i think they call it menk over there
@@derricklarsen462 The Sasquatch? Or the giants?
"Force the hiker's to let it go"🤣that got me.
Yes. When people tell you to "Take a hike", what they mean is that they want you to fart.
That dude with the fake accent going after anyone tha dares to call it an alien abduction case and to give them a shot of CIA like agenda berating by calling anyone conspiracy theorists. This is almost an identical situation with the Todd Sees incident when he was hunting in the woods of rural Pennsylvania around 2002.
When the artificial aliens showed up on screen, i got a little scared 😂😂😂 the animation quality of your videos has gone through the roof
IKR 🤣 LOOKS REAL-ish assuming one hasn't seen real aliens 😜
okay same I definitely jumped 😅
I just love the way you narrate your chosen topics. Great talent...humour and wit, hilarious commentary on individual flaws of the dramatis personae and keeping it interesting all the way through , please keep the stories coming , you little genius.
Your episodes are so interesting especially the way you present them. You would make a great teacher/lecturer.
I died laughing when he said, "But that doesn't explain the missing eyebrows".
As an Australian, living in a dry state, when I hear this it's hard to imagine that kind of cold.
I always felt the tent flap was blocked in order for them to cut themselves out rather than just unzip the flap. Thanks for the channel. Always interesting.
I’m loving this new Malcolm in the middles UA-cam channel! oh how he has grown
"Why can Nobody Solve the Dyatlov Pass Incident?"
Lemmino viewers : that's where you are wrong kiddo
let you know what? i don’t have a good idea
You’re probably another Yeti believer lmao
@@the_ghost_orchid you sound like you believe the earth is flat but are trying to hide it because you don’t want your parents to know, they already think that you’re a disappointment but if they know that you believe that myth, then you will be disowned, and you don’t want to be in the streets because you work for minimum wage with a girlfriend/boyfriend that’s abusive but theyre the only person you actually trust even though you know their abusive ways, and that they know if you break up with them you will be the one losing because they’re cheating on you but you have yet to figure that out. your manager hates you and you’re a nightmare to work with.
@@spiyder Yea don’t reply buddy
@@the_ghost_orchid i did and watcha gonna do about it dysfunctional sponge
12:51 I heard the radiation was actually because one of the hikers was a chemistry student who had worked with radioactive materials. They had less safety standards back then, so it wouldn't be out of place
My dad born in 1944, worked in a chemistry lab. When experimenting with mercury, any spills would be scooped up by hand and put back in the jar. No gloves. indeed different times.
@@petermoller4610 You can safely drink mercury(which people did in Middle Ages). Inhaling the vapors and contact with open wounds are deadly. Bathing in mercury with gas mask on isn't.
@@Baronello it is irrelevant, you would not be allowed to handle mercury with bare hands today in any lab.
@@TheSteelRoad That is true. At the very least, one of them being a chemistry student who handled radioactive material and accidentally spread radiation around a bit is a lot more probable than aliens or nuclear weapons.
@@ToastyNoneofyourbusiness Exactly. So many of the odd variables in this case have a reasonable explanation. However, conspiracy theories and people misreporting the facts the throughout the decades has caused people to believe the more crazier theories.
For example: the woman who had the missing eyes and tongue was found face down in a ravine after months of laying under a mound of snow. The person who performed the autopsy wrote that was due to soft tissue decomposition. Yet, people still believe it was due to a yeti attack, aliens, or by another person.
So amazingly constructed. Love it. Best one on the subject. Thorough.
What devout knowledge shall the mustache man grace us with today?
I’ve always wondered how exactly there were prints after more than a week in a place that snowed pretty much daily or constantly so how exactly did they find all this great evidence like prints and tents and etc
Been on your channel nonstop for like 2 months now ... I feel like you're either the history teacher I wish I had... Or that buddy at the pub who has all the cool stories ! ..
I have quickly became a fan. Glad I came across Thoughty2. Thanks for the cool videos.
I think it was actually solved thanks to Frozen’s animation for snow. A meteorologist (specifically a man who specialized in snow and avalanches) noticed how realistic the animation was, and (with permission and help from the animators) took their design and applied it to the conditions seen in Dylatov’s Pass.
Ask A Mortician has a video that explains it MUCH better than I could.
An avalanche would have flattened their tent, and their footprints would have been obviously on avalanche debris or completely obliterated if made in front of it while escaping.
The radioactive alien Yeti theory does not have those awkward conundrums.
@@johnmead8437Didn’t they cut their way out of the tent? That gives them the ability to make the tracks that were found. Also, I personally think the radioactivity was played up. Until I know the type of radiation, I pretty much dismiss that evidence. Ever hear of the Radium Girls? Or how there used to be nuclear material in Quaker Oats (I believe I was taught that, but someone please correct me if I’m wrong)? Radiation wasn’t yet considered the public health risk we know it is today.
I could also be convinced of a Russian Military cover up, given the KGB’s shadiness, but I’d need more proof. For now, I’m pretty satisfied with the avalanche conclusion.
@@HavianEla The thoughts being why cut your way out of a standing tent, would need to be organised to do this. And footprints are made on top of avalanche debris, those under it are gone.
“That’s why I haven’t left this room for 8 years”
*cries as he’s editing it because it’s true* 😂
i doubt he'll change it but here anyways
original title: Why can Nobody Solve the Mystery of Dyatlov Pass?
Wtf
I don't get it, what's wrong with the title?
@@payton.a.elliott Thought2 sometimes rewrites the title and the op is just showing the original title on the chance thoughty changes it
@@AcceptGamingDKD Ah, ok. I never noticed that before.
@Red Dwarf Magic? Maybe the title seemed good already? Maybe op always says he doubts it will change even when it does change? How many licks does it take to get to the center of a tootsie pop? The world may never know
From all I've read about this incident, this presentation is excellent with good pictures, facts, and conclusions. Kudos! It's the best I've seen.
I still think the best explanation is government weapon testing some kind of psychoactive agent.
This guys voice and narrative skills are great, would be awesome for bed time story asmr
Indeed his narrative skills are stellar, if not beyond any possibility to rank it at all.
Taking a moment to tell you that your voice is incredible.
So calming
Simp
I want a pillow made out of his voice. :D
Rite !! One of THE MOST attractive Voices
He can’t pronounce “th” - doesn’t that irk you?
Given the track record of the Soviets, I doubt anyone will ever get a clear picture. They were experienced and would have really considered their surroundings before setting up camp. Just weird, probably a test that carried out with an unintended fallout. It's very sad but probably what happened. Must have been one tidy avalanche though. Nice enough to pick up after itself.
Hi Thoughty2, thanks for this video! I was for years fascinated by this case, and the last discovery seems to bring us the classic Occam's Razor - the simplest solution is the most probable one... I love how this new theory fills perfectly all the gaps and leaves nothing to guess...
Except making classified a simple avalanche is a bad explanation. The explanation needs to explain all the facts. And the suspicious actions of the government and military are unexplained. So running and hiding an Occams Razor is usually a trick spies use to quiet the discussion. Despite that many facts remain unexplained. Testing of weapons on the other hand explains all the facts but noone will fund scientists to prove that theory.
I thought the snow simulator program, for the movie Frozen, helped solve the mystery. At least its the best theory so far.
Saw this on ask a mortician with Caitlin Doughty
Came here to recommend that video. The theory makes sense, and explains everything, including their injuries and how an avalanche would happen.
*Biden does NOT HandLe Evacuations, WeLL!!! Trevor Noah, at RePorter's Party*
just few days ago i have seen the video "Wait, FROZEN Solved the Dyatlov Pass Mystery?" that gives a pretty interesting explanation
It's on the Ask A Mortician channel with Caitlin Doughty.
It was Disney aliens.
I love the way he always says "except for abc... but we'll get to that in a minute" to keep you watching. Thoroughly hilarious, but also a shrewd UA-camr indeed. #muchlove
There was a recent paper published on it that explained what happened.
Anton Petrov talks about the investigation on his channel.
Exactly was about to say that.
beat me to it
I also saw the Anton Petrov explanation but still does not answer the stranger parts of the incident such as radiation and the missing parts of the bodies did not seem to indicate scavenging.
@@shroam3337 The radiation most likely came from thorium in their lanterns. No idea about missing body parts though.
www.planetagor.pl/articles/entry/Tajemnica-tragedii-na-prze-czy-Diat-owa-cz-II-rekonstrukcja
There's another case that happened in the Russian wilderness that's very similar to Dyatlov pass. But there was a survivor!! She said everyone literally went insane in front of her eyes, started tearing their clothes off, started smashing their own faces and bodies onto rocks. If she had died too, no one would know what happened to all the people she was with (who _all_ died). They still can't explain what made them go crazy all at once though!
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@@brandilee9834 the case actually happened in a snowy mountain pass in Russia, just like this one, and again with extremely experienced hikers. They even made a documentary about it!! Yet in all the videos I've seen about Dyatlov, that other case is never mentioned!!!
I'm busy at work but later on I'll find the name of the other case so you can see. It's almost exactly the same apart from the one survivor!! :o
@@Vexarax any updates?
@@fish-108 It is the Khamar-Daban 1993 incident.
I feel like we need more content.. I enjoy your videos!
Your welcome Thoughty2. You rocked you are a great writer, investigator, and thinker.
its such a weird story, i'll always be fascinated by it
Why am I watching this, I'm Russian, I know this story and all the theories...
I guess it's the accent that hooks me
What is the true story??
@@mcmorelane3818 nobody goddamn knows, it's all just a theory. A MOUNTAIN THEORY
@@ShipperTrash I think they were murdered. But by who? I don’t know that. Some things are contradicting.
Actually you should’ve double checked this they figured it out a few weeks ago at least it was a slab avalanche and they confirmed it
@@ShipperTrash those Westerns won't miss a chance to propagate bullshit against you people. "nuclear testing" this time lmao
The chronicles of Narnia: we have the best hide N seek sequence
Thr Dyatlov mystery: hold my beer
I heard about this years ago on Coast 2 Coast am. It was one of my all time favorite shows. The most fascinating part is they cut their way out the back of the tent.
I just finished watching your ww2 video! What great timing my dear sire!
...Did you mean "sir"? Or is T2 your new sovereign? LoL
@@Debland1989 I shall throw my life away for T2, for he is my ruler and I am but a mere peasant in his just kingdom
@@izzydev05 I salute you sir!
I don’t know if a person gets hurt that bad I don’t see them being able to move, still a mystery
And I don't see any evidence of the tent being buried or anybody digging out of it either
@@magicpyroninja What kind of evidence would you expect after a couple of weeks of Russian winter weather?
@@eljanrimsa5843 The tent was still in place, along with a flashlight either on top of the tent or nearby on the snow bank.
Shock does wonders my boy
Im depressed tonight...to much isolating... I had a good cry... Hopefully sleep after thoughty2 finishes the story😭
Hey! How are you feeling now? Hope you're doing better! We're all pretty down because of all the isolation business but we'll get through it in the end.
Hang on my brother. Love comes and love goes, as does happiness and so too eventually life. But you have a role to play in the ultimate destiny of the world and the unapologetic pursuit of what you find meaningful, and upholding sufficient responsibility for that, is the antidote to all that induces suffering, as well as the greatest gift you can bless upon yourself and the world at large. Its always the worst times that define us the most, all one can do is smile proudly in the face of that and pursue the highest good they can conceive of in lieu of life’s suffering. Its the prerequisite for the Heroes journey and the only good fight there is.
So you're sick? That would be the only reason to be isolating yourself, so I hope you get well soon. It took me a couple of days to get over it, but at least I got some rest.
The humor in your videos is absolutely brilliant. Love it.
It was an avalanche according to Caitlin Dougherty(ask a mortician). She explains how scientists hooked up with the animators from 'Frozen' movie' and used their algorithm to recreate the snow conditions.
Came here to recommend that video...it was incredibly interesting and did explain everything including their injuries.
But why so much radiation?
@@shubniggurath3947 The levels of radiation were quite low, and were most likely caused by the thorium, a radioactive element, that was used in their lanterns.
No it wasn't one of them had a job that worked with radioactive materials. This has all come out. And every thing has been explained. The radio active theory was just from conspiracy theorist. It's always been known where it came from the guys work environment. This story been solved forever. But youtubers like this guy just keep stealing others content without research. UA-cam is just about recycling others old videos for content. Most youtubers are washed up now and play the marry go round game.
@@rs-qe3de but how did that one guy have no eyes? or why was one of the girls wearing another guys pants?
Thoughty2 just keeps getting better
Like a fine Wine.
I’m a simple man. I see thoughty2 upload, I click like.
I'm subscribed to Morning Brew. It's not your typical news material. It's awesome! Totally recommended!
Dead Mountain by Donnie Eichar is a great book on the matter. He goes to Russia, talks to surviving family members, works with scientists to come to a fairly reasonable conclusion.
Thanks for the tip. I'm gonna look into it.
I like your channel bc no part of it consist of politics. That’s why you’re one of the top story tellers on UA-cam. Good job 👍🏻
Well, that isn't true. He has made videos on politics. It's better to say that his videos that are not about politics, do not contain politics.
@@Elannaheim ...LOL. Exactly.
One of my very favorite mysteries. I really just wanted to see you tell the story; & hear what you said, about it.
Could you do one on all the deadly things in Australia from the Gympie Gympie tree to the cassowary inland tiapan and funnel web spiders oh and the crocs sharks jellies and octopuses?
Or Missing 411 Australia
My boy out here posting non stop
8:28 because we all know avalanches are crazy about tongues and eyeballs...
As a private, American citizen, speaking to private, Russian citizens: I'm a fan. I'm a fan of your spirit, your bravado, your struggles and triumphs, and your legends. I see more in common between us than what's not in common, and I'm a fangirl! 😊
The possible outcomes that were listed still can’t explain the reason they Were wearing each other’s clothes and people had their eyes plucked out😳
one guy : there's an avalanche coming, we gotta leave fast
the other guy : wait, is it my or your t shirt ?
and for the eyes i guess being hit in the face with enough violence either by a bunch of solid snow or during th fall could have caused that
@@lucasbortoluzzi9369 yup i scraped off my nose at the age of 10 running down a mountainside
Scavanger animals took the eyes and if they were in a hurry to get out of tent I'd put on someone's else's clothes quick
ever heard of a thing called wild animals? They go for the juicy bits first
There are 2 kinds of people I commonly see when it comes to Dyatlov pass: Ones who realized this has already been solved, and those who ignore it because they want to believe in something supernatural.
I still don’t understand how all the different missing body parts can be explained...
Missing eyes?
Missing tongue?
@@YellowPenetrator Those parts are very commonly eaten by carrion/insects and animals, most any mucous membrane that is soft and easy to get at.
Also, in the case of a slab avalanche, it wouldnt be unheard of for the potential force of the ice & snow on the human body (especially if hit from behind like they likely would likely have been if fleeing) to be great enough to literally pop the eyeballs from the sockets & cause the tongues to be bitten off. This commonly happens in more severe car crashes.
Seems like the government was upto something suspicious
@@YellowPenetrator The woman with the missing eyes and tongue was found face down in a ravine after being covered in snow for months. The person who performed the autopsy themselves wrote it was due to the soft tissue rapidly decomposing.
🌸🌙”I kept sipping my self-righteous tea” 😹,I am absolutely dead🌙🌸
how are you writing comments post mortem? are you a zombie? a literate zombie? literally a literate zombie? literally a little literate zombie? damn, I need to lay off the weed.
Then who wrote the comment?
@@cornpop1363 🌸😌I do not know why I need to explain the concept of figure of speech to you as I would assume that you are an average adult of reasonable intelligence😌🌸
@@Somethingname 🌸😌I would answer question with one of my own, do you not yield an understanding of figurative speak?😌🌸
@@elknolasshrineofraja3966 you know what they say about assumptions. they make an ass out of u and... mptions.
Read about this so many times. The fact too that as one onlooker said, the bodies were a strange reddish orange, hair turned grey, immediate aging, and the coffins were lined with lead. I mean I realize as bodies deteriorate some things happen but this just seemed so extreme. They've had mummies thousands of years old that were in better shape in Peru of course, in a drier environment. The strange last photo of a flashing light on their camera. Yes, glowing orbs another hiking Troup saw that night in the sky, something that was a recurrence on the mountain according to the Mansi. It's still very mysterious that they cut through their tent too when it had flaps.
I have been obsessed with this incident for years and cant get over it. Having learned everything I could, I am sure it was some horrible murder.
It was a series of unfortunate events initiated by a katabatic wind.
@@psps6623 you can't say that for sure. Only a murder can explain all the evidence and autopsy reports. Just learn more.
A fall and natural decomposition can explain it all. There's no evidence of murder.
@@fieryapple7020 You like the dramatic theory with no explanation; I like the practical theory with explanation...Quoting Declan Seraphina
“I think the group were sleeping in their tent when a katabatic wind occurred. It would have been like a crushing avalanche of air. It’s uncommon but not unusual in those conditions and apparently the slope on the pass that they set up camp on was the perfect slope for that kind of wind. It would have flattened the tent with immense pressure, essentially turning their shelter into a trap, constricting and suffocating them, it would have been impossible to survive in the tent and when they cut their way out it would have been impossible to survive outside staying with the tent, it also may have been difficult if possible at all to retrieve anything from the tent while it was being flattened by the wind.
Now outside the tent in temperatures of -20° to -30° the wind would have been pushing them around while pelting them with ice and snow and stones. It seems like the group hurriedly packed a tight pile of snow on the tent in the centre to stop it from blowing away then placed a torch on top as a beacon and left to seek other shelter to wait for the wind to subside.
On Kholat Syakhl, there are 4 main ridges that run down the mountain; The north-east ridge, the east ridge which leads to Dyatlov pass, the south-west ridge and the north-west ridge. The group was camped towards the peak where the north-east and east ridges connect, if the group had gone down towards the trees at the bottom of the mountain between the east ridge/Dyatlov pass and the south-west ridge, it would have lead them to the their storage house which would have provided shelter from the cold and wind, they would have had supplies and been able to bunker down and start a fire. I believe they misjudged the direction and went towards the trees at the bottom of the mountain between the north-east ridge and the east ridge/Dyatlov pass by mistake. The location the bodies were found and the storage house were both around the same distance from tent but on opposite sides of Dyatlov Pass. The group then realised they were lost and that the distance they had traveled in life threatening conditions had been in vain, they were now almost a mile from the tent and with the winds too strong to make it back up the mountain, they lit a fire by the big cedar tree to stay as warm as possible while they figured out what to do next or waited with the hopes that the wind would subside soon.
It seems like Doroshenko and Krivonischenko had scrapes and bruises consistent with climbing and hoisting themselves up a tree, possibly to get wood for the fire and also possibly to try and get a better view of their surroundings, the tent or to look for the storage house. The tip of Krivonischenko's nose was missing which could have been caused by him scraping it against the tree while climbing it as traces of skin were found embedded in the trunk, Krivonischenko and Doroshenko being away from the fire for long periods would explain why it seems like they died of hypothermia first while the group were all waiting around the fire. It seems like The other hikers pulled and tore clothes for themselves from the two bodies, leaving them in their underwear. This would also explain the trace amounts of radiation found on clothes worn by some members of the group as a couple of the hikers actually worked with radiation in their jobs, Krivonischenko was one of them, he worked in a plutonium plant. We also know for certain that Doroshenko was moved and repositioned at least 3 hours after his death as he was found by search parties laying on his front but Livor Mortis had already begun to set in. Livor mortis is the 4th stage of death where the blood in the body starts to settle towards the ground because of gravity, causing a blueish-purple bruising like discolouration in the parts/side of the body closest to the ground. In Doroshenko’s case, this was visible across his shoulders and the back of his neck indicated that he was laying on his back when he died or for some time immediately following his death.
Note that Livor Mortis begins to occur at least 20 minutes after death but does not progress to the point where it is visible until at least 3 hours after death. It is also possible that freezing temperatures may have slowed this process down.
Then the group moved 75m along the tree line to dig out a shelter in the side of the ravine to protect themselves from the cold and wind but the shelter collapsed, 4 metres of snow and ice came crushing down on Zolotaryov, Thibeaux-Brignollles and Dubinina causing their fatal head and chest injuries, and injuring Slobodin which explains his non-lethal skull fracture, kolevatov was not crushed but died of hypothermia while caved in at the back of the collapsed shelter cradling Zolotaryov.
The ravine during other seasons is actually a creek and when it began to thaw it partially washed Dubinina out from under the snow, leaving her body face down in the flowing water, she was missing her eyes, tongue and tissue from around her nose and cheeks due to her chest and face decaying much faster in the water than the rest of her frozen body. Post mortem photos do indicate that her face was in the more advanced stages of decay than the rest of her and the others bodies.
This leaves Slobodin, Dyatlov, and Kolmogorova who tried to make it back to the tent but one by one died of hypothermia at different points along the way.
This theory may not be as sensationalized as yetis or aliens, it doesn’t involve an avalanche as there were no signs of one and the group were experienced enough to know avalanches are extremely unlikely on a slope as gradual as the one they were camped on, it doesn’t involve drink or drugs because these individuals knew better and took ski-hiking seriously since they were doing this for certifications and qualifications, it doesn’t demonize indigenous people known to be peaceful, and doesn’t point fingers at the government or secret service when there was no evidence of their presence or involvement. No footprints belonging to anyone other than the 9 members of Dyatlov’s group were ever found in the area nor was there any signs of damage to the area that would indicate weapon detonations.
It’s more likely that the cause was a collection of factors centered around exposure to the elements since exposure is often the most common cause of death for hikers. Something similar to this case actually happened at Anaris Mountain, Sweden in 1978 on a near identical slope where 8 individuals died and one was seriously injured but survived, the cause was a katabatic wind.”
@@fieryapple7020 Of course, you are right. Somebody terrified the group, it appears they were stalked, then they fled, finally they were captured, tortured, murdered, and dumped nearby for authorities to find their handiwork. It's the only thing that makes a lick of sense!
he can give me goosebumps and let me not sleep without me noticing
"The injuries were too severe to be caused by humans"
What does that even mean? Anybody can use tools to inflict damage
Apparently whoever wrote that has never met a human being!!
Unless they’re trying to say someone tried to eat them lol It’s silly
Imagine pushing a boulder off a hill and crushing someone with it but "these injuries are too severe to be caused by humans"
Yeah I can't even count how many local tribesmen I've seen atomize someone their laser beams.
@@YY-wu7et Not that anyone got atomized, even if they did, it would be the Russian government considering the KGB were all over this case.
Honestly the weapons testing theory is the only one that actually makes logical sense here
Thanks for always being super fun with fun facts!
The way this story has been told certainly makes it sound more mysterious. I also think that some of the details got lost in translation. Take for instance the fact that two of the bodies had higher than normal levels of radiation. It sounds odd until you find out that those two people actually worked at a nuclear power station. The ones that had their eyes and tongues missing were obviously from animals after they died. The whole ‘why did they run from their tent from the inside in their night clothes would be because of a fire. Granted, I would LOVE nothing more than for it to be because of Aliens or Cthulhu or something UNKNOWN, but if there is one thing I have learned from watching videos like this is that it’s never ever aliens, ancient or otherwise.
It's always aliens.
Sounds like something an alien would say.
@@rybaneightsix5085 Take me to your leader.
“and the area was scanned with a Geiger counter to check for radioactive contamination”.
3.6 Roentgen, not great, not terrible.
Dylatov was there! The pass's named after him
I love your channel keep up the great stuff!
They have solved it. It was a type of avalanche known as a slab avalanche. Anton Petrov did a video on it not very long ago.
I haven’t heard of a radioactive avalanche?
But have they?
What about the radiation, the strange missing body parts and other oddities to their bodies as well as some of them in the ravine?
@@shroam3337 2 of them worked on a nuclear power plant.
@@hyacinthbucket3803 2 of them worked on a nuclear power plant.
Eyes and tongue probably missing because of birds eating them as it's the first things they go for.
Do any birds exist at such low temperatures ?
@@gokusaiyajin3910 there are migratory and non migratory birds. Where I live in North America, crows stick around while geese and hummingbirds migrate south to warmer climates. So yes there would have been birds.
@@gokusaiyajin3910 Oh my, yes. Bunting, jays, cranes, owls.
@@gokusaiyajin3910 Owls, Eagles, and Falcons. Not sure which of those are native to the region.
Not exclusively birds. Basically any animal goes for those things...any animal that could be interested into it at least.
Seriously, I have studied this topic to death. I know this much: leaving the safety and comfort of the tent underclothed in darkness and bitter cold was a death sentence.
Russian is my first language and I am amazed by your great pronunciation of these last names! 👍🏼👍🏼👍🏼
"That's why I haven't left this room in the last eight years". 🤣