To Attend a free trial Class of this course send email to: mixingcourse@andrewzeleno.com 260 Reviews & Credits: www.andrewzelenocoursereview.com My Credits: www.andrewzelenocredits.com Don't waste your time reading - send me an email to get all details and to book a free trial class. Info: You get one free trial class which is a real class with my students who are taking my course right now. If you like it, you can enroll. Step 1 Read about the system: 9 months. 2 classes per week. Each class lasts 2 hours. 150 USD per month. Monthly payments. Step 2 Check if the schedule will be working for you: Group 1 = Monday 5:45 pm and Thursday 5:45 pm or Group 2 = Tuesday 1:20 pm and Friday 1:20 pm You always can attend the same class with Group1 or Group2. Time is specified in Pacific time zone (Vancouver time). Double check the time of the classes with this link: www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/canada/vancouver I hope Group 2 will be good for you as I may cancel Group 1 this year. But if Group 1 is the only Group that works for you let me know. If you can't calculate the time difference for some reason then simply speaking: Group 1 is the evening in the US Group 2 is the evening in Europe Step 3 Get a free trial class with my students to see a real class. Add me in Skype now by using my nickname: andrewzeleno It's one word: andrewzeleno
Thanks man for the video. It's amaizing as always, but not even close to your course. Just mind blowing! Your course just changed my life! Thanks for all you do!
They Don't know compression, they only use their famous names to sale you another one so called ''greatest plugin of 2024' promising that with their plugin your mixes will sound right. Thank you very much Andrew for such a great explanation! Andrew's course is highly reccomended if you want to know all those nuances of sound - check it out!
Great video Andrew! Top-notch knowledge from a non-BS audio engineer. Really happy mixing experience after your course, I'm progressing every year like crazy thanks to you. Last 2 years I had the biggest jump in skilland still go back to the notes from lessons from time to time to remind myself.
Excellent explanation as usual. This is the way Andrew teaches in his course. Make yourself a favor and attend the trial class and you see how deep it goes. After I've attended it I've enrolled immediately! 😃
@@MalikAmer87 Hey don't spill the beans! 😅 I was thinking it might be it, but honestly i don't see wideband processing as in issue for regular de-essing duties... In fact, i think wideband mode sounds more natural in many cases, it sounds closer to manual gain automation.
I completed a 9-month course with Andrew in 2021 as additional informal education while studying at the National Music Academy of Ukraine. Now I work as a top-category sound engineer in one of the capital's theaters in Ukraine, and also run my own recording studio. Andrew taught me: - to read manuals for equipment and software - to be skeptical about all kinds of "soundGOODizers" and other "wands" - to perceive sound as a wave with three characteristics: frequency, amplitude, and phase - to trust your ears, not your eyes - how to conduct a blind audio test correctly - how to do level matching correctly - to perceive headphones as an additional control tool, not as the main monitoring tool This is far from a complete list of what Andrew puts into his course. However, even with just this knowledge, I feel myself much calmer and more confident both in working independently on musical projects and in communicating with professionals.
Glad you did this video. I've ran into this issue with some de-essers but I didnt know what exactly it was but it always sounded off. I would love to hear your thoughts on spectral de-essers like Tone Balance Sibalance for example. Cheers!
Man I always felt this way about deessers but I thought I was trippin!! Lol We need you to redo all the classic plugins in our toolbox now that would be worth buying 🔥
Хороший материал. Всё что и так понятно интуитивно, вы разложили по полочкам. Но стоит помнить, что во многих случаях и достаточно большой release звучит куда более музыкально, нежели быстрый. Тут как бы математика однозначно сильна, но не стоит и забывать о музыке. Но в целом спасибо за видео, все отлично!
Длинный релиз больше подходит для компрессии полного спектра, особенно если фундаментальная частота находится ниже 200 гц. Высокие частоты быстрые по своей природе (полная синусоида 5000гц это всего лишь 0.2мс), так что и атака/релиз для высоких частот обычно нужна куда быстрее.
Андрей спасибо вам, хотелось бы узнать ваше мнение о HOFA IQ-Series DeEsser. Это один из моих любимых де-эссеров. Какое у него качество обработки по вашему ?
The only question what we see and what we process - is it the same? Because UI and processing are 2 separate world and can be completely different in fact.
Idk what the pro ds bug is but it seems to darken the vocal I usually manually de ess with clip gain the only plugin I’ve found that sounds good as a de esser is weiss
You probably won't believe me, but I actually noticed this problem with iZotope's De-esser a month ago, so i had to manually create my own de-esser out of stock Reaper's compressor. Sidechain highpass at 5000HZ, lookahead 3ms, attack 1ms, release 10 ms, still not sure about the ratio... But i think 4:1 is fine with a hard knee... Peak detection, not RMS, of course.
Pro DS is the only good de esser anyway. You could use the pro mb in the "free" sidechain mode as well. For the best results, lower the s sounds manually. I like to use the RX audio editor in spectral mode for that and lower the entire frequency band during the sibilant sound. You won't be taking out any useful information anyway, as the mouth can't create more than one sound at once
Thanks for sharing knowledge. Superb level of information. One little thing : in the description of the video, you are talking about Fabfilter (meaning "in this video, you'll show this", i guess). Even on the thumbnail picture of the video, you are using their logo to make your point "they don't know compression in Deesser". And then, when you arrive on Fabilter, you just says "i'm gonna keep this information for my students". A bit weird, in my opinion (and misleading). If you want to keep this information for your students, why talking about Fabfilter ? Please, be consistent, as you always ask consistency from the companies. ;-) Thanks, anyway.
Эти настройки по типу classic в RX диессере повторяют поведение аналоговых приборов, там не возможно было такое быстрое срабатывание, как в цифре. А еще зачастую диессер используется на тарелках. Отчасти это то, почему до сих пор дефолтные настройки диессеров такие медленные.
@@AndrewZeleno1 out of all plugins released currently Andrew, would you say it would be more worth it to go for a psp vintage warmer 2 for vox or getting that warmth from a different plugin like a compressor or a channel strip
Есть плагины, которые в себе несут "аналоговый звук", обрезают хайкатом верх + подбирают или наоборот добавляют низа (warm sound), возможно в этом дело, к примеру, 1-го плагина от Solid (поэтому любые новые купленные я сразу чекаю на пребдмет эквализации встроенной). А так да, без регулировок atack/release любые устройства типа компрессор - что-то непонятное.
To Attend a free trial Class of this course send email to: mixingcourse@andrewzeleno.com
260 Reviews & Credits: www.andrewzelenocoursereview.com
My Credits: www.andrewzelenocredits.com
Don't waste your time reading - send me an email to get all details and to book a free trial class.
Info:
You get one free trial class which is a real class with my students who are taking my course right now. If you like it, you can enroll.
Step 1
Read about the system: 9 months. 2 classes per week. Each class lasts 2 hours. 150 USD per month. Monthly payments.
Step 2
Check if the schedule will be working for you:
Group 1 = Monday 5:45 pm and Thursday 5:45 pm
or
Group 2 = Tuesday 1:20 pm and Friday 1:20 pm
You always can attend the same class with Group1 or Group2.
Time is specified in Pacific time zone (Vancouver time). Double check the time of the classes with this link: www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/canada/vancouver
I hope Group 2 will be good for you as I may cancel Group 1 this year. But if Group 1 is the only Group that works for you let me know.
If you can't calculate the time difference for some reason then simply speaking:
Group 1 is the evening in the US
Group 2 is the evening in Europe
Step 3
Get a free trial class with my students to see a real class. Add me in Skype now by using my nickname: andrewzeleno
It's one word: andrewzeleno
Go, go , go !! Let’s push audio production by Andrew !!
Thanks Ashot!
@@AndrewZeleno1 Yo!! My pleasure, Andrew. You deserve it, plenty of knowledge You deliver.
Phenomenal! Andrew is at a different level! And his course is the best thing in Music Production IMO.
Thanks man! It means a lot to me!
Thanks man for the video. It's amaizing as always, but not even close to your course. Just mind blowing! Your course just changed my life! Thanks for all you do!
I appreciate that! Thank you!
They Don't know compression, they only use their famous names to sale you another one so called ''greatest plugin of 2024' promising that with their plugin your mixes will sound right. Thank you very much Andrew for such a great explanation! Andrew's course is highly reccomended if you want to know all those nuances of sound - check it out!
Thank you Rommy! I appreciate your support!
Gotta love the Stutter FX Andrew:))
Great video Andrew! Top-notch knowledge from a non-BS audio engineer. Really happy mixing experience after your course, I'm progressing every year like crazy thanks to you. Last 2 years I had the biggest jump in skilland still go back to the notes from lessons from time to time to remind myself.
Thanks Hubert! I’m glad to hear about your progress!
I love when you point out flaws in plugins.
Thanks.
Excellent explanation as usual. This is the way Andrew teaches in his course. Make yourself a favor and attend the trial class and you see how deep it goes. After I've attended it I've enrolled immediately! 😃
Thank you! It’s my pleasure to teach you!
I remember the fabfilter default issue from the class😜☺️.
I'm gonna guess it's a too long lookahead time by default? I'm probably wrong, but who knows... 😅
@@TransistorLSD no not it, the default mode was wrong.
@@MalikAmer87 Hey don't spill the beans! 😅
I was thinking it might be it, but honestly i don't see wideband processing as in issue for regular de-essing duties... In fact, i think wideband mode sounds more natural in many cases, it sounds closer to manual gain automation.
I prefer to deal with sibilance, plosives, and breathing with manual gain adjustment automation, or manually in melodyne
Thanks for sharing with your experience.
Андрей, спасибо. Просто глаза раскрыл почему после деессеров с вокалом "что-то не так"
Спасибо Дмитрий. Рад что видео было полезным !
I completed a 9-month course with Andrew in 2021 as additional informal education while studying at the National Music Academy of Ukraine.
Now I work as a top-category sound engineer in one of the capital's theaters in Ukraine, and also run my own recording studio.
Andrew taught me:
- to read manuals for equipment and software
- to be skeptical about all kinds of "soundGOODizers" and other "wands"
- to perceive sound as a wave with three characteristics: frequency, amplitude, and phase
- to trust your ears, not your eyes
- how to conduct a blind audio test correctly
- how to do level matching correctly
- to perceive headphones as an additional control tool, not as the main monitoring tool
This is far from a complete list of what Andrew puts into his course. However, even with just this knowledge, I feel myself much calmer and more confident both in working independently on musical projects and in communicating with professionals.
Thank you for your feedback Dmytro! I appreciate it! So glad to hear that my course helped you and give more confidence in doing what you like!
Glad you did this video. I've ran into this issue with some de-essers but I didnt know what exactly it was but it always sounded off. I would love to hear your thoughts on spectral de-essers like Tone Balance Sibalance for example. Cheers!
Glad it helped!
Cool video! Thank you!
Glad you liked it!
Wow! Great info. Tx
Thanks!
Nice
Thanks
Mr Zeleno, What do you have to say about Serban Ghenea mixing skills?? ... What's "wrong" in "his sound/mixing style"??
The relase is not there to stay untouched at default setting.... why dont you judge the plugins in a proper setting instead ??
Yes, critical thinking is a key, thanks Andrew!
Thank you!
Man I always felt this way about deessers but I thought I was trippin!! Lol We need you to redo all the classic plugins in our toolbox now that would be worth buying 🔥
Slate Digital FG-DS is my fave atm
Are there any good affordable deessers ?
That's true
Thanks.
Хороший материал. Всё что и так понятно интуитивно, вы разложили по полочкам. Но стоит помнить, что во многих случаях и достаточно большой release звучит куда более музыкально, нежели быстрый. Тут как бы математика однозначно сильна, но не стоит и забывать о музыке. Но в целом спасибо за видео, все отлично!
спасибо
Длинный релиз больше подходит для компрессии полного спектра, особенно если фундаментальная частота находится ниже 200 гц.
Высокие частоты быстрые по своей природе (полная синусоида 5000гц это всего лишь 0.2мс), так что и атака/релиз для высоких частот обычно нужна куда быстрее.
Thanks for the video. 😊
So what is you pick for the top 3 de-essers to use?
great vid AZ! if i owned a plugin company you'd be the first guy i'd want involved ;)
Oh thank you! :)
Андрей спасибо вам, хотелось бы узнать ваше мнение о HOFA IQ-Series DeEsser. Это один из моих любимых де-эссеров. Какое у него качество обработки по вашему ?
Так сам возьми и проверь, зажимает ли он лишние звуки)
@@TransistorLSD Я знаю , что это хороший прибор, мне было интересно мнение Андрея, а так ничего нового. )))
The only question what we see and what we process - is it the same?
Because UI and processing are 2 separate world and can be completely different in fact.
but I proved it by ears. Didn’t you watch?
'....with your stupid de-esser.'
Andrew, my favorite engineer on YT.
'Ptuhh ptuhhh' LOL
Haha)) thanks!
Please tell me, which deessers would you recommend using then? Will Metric Halo Deesser or HOFA IQ-Deesser be okay?
It's a long story and something what I keep for students.
Idk what the pro ds bug is but it seems to darken the vocal I usually manually de ess with clip gain the only plugin I’ve found that sounds good as a de esser is weiss
Weiss is one of the good ones.
You probably won't believe me, but I actually noticed this problem with iZotope's De-esser a month ago, so i had to manually create my own de-esser out of stock Reaper's compressor. Sidechain highpass at 5000HZ, lookahead 3ms, attack 1ms, release 10 ms, still not sure about the ratio... But i think 4:1 is fine with a hard knee... Peak detection, not RMS, of course.
Interesting 😂 ю кноу
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Pro DS is the only good de esser anyway. You could use the pro mb in the "free" sidechain mode as well.
For the best results, lower the s sounds manually. I like to use the RX audio editor in spectral mode for that and lower the entire frequency band during the sibilant sound. You won't be taking out any useful information anyway, as the mouth can't create more than one sound at once
Comment under this video please for support!
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Nice point but the consumer won't detec this
Then don't process the sound with plugins. Most consumers will not hear any difference.
15:30 hahaha
Thanks for sharing knowledge. Superb level of information. One little thing : in the description of the video, you are talking about Fabfilter (meaning "in this video, you'll show this", i guess). Even on the thumbnail picture of the video, you are using their logo to make your point "they don't know compression in Deesser". And then, when you arrive on Fabilter, you just says "i'm gonna keep this information for my students". A bit weird, in my opinion (and misleading). If you want to keep this information for your students, why talking about Fabfilter ? Please, be consistent, as you always ask consistency from the companies. ;-) Thanks, anyway.
I got it! Thanks.
Seems like the best thing to do is simply lower the gain manually on your sibalent spots
Эти настройки по типу classic в RX диессере повторяют поведение аналоговых приборов, там не возможно было такое быстрое срабатывание, как в цифре. А еще зачастую диессер используется на тарелках. Отчасти это то, почему до сих пор дефолтные настройки диессеров такие медленные.
Congratulations on the knowledge thanks for sharing bro rescuing us from Babylons salesmen of snake oil lol
Glad to help! :)
@@AndrewZeleno1 out of all plugins released currently Andrew, would you say it would be more worth it to go for a psp vintage warmer 2 for vox or getting that warmth from a different plugin like a compressor or a channel strip
Great info, i just will pass the 'god complex' masturbation...
thanks
Andrew needs to be a world king of audio
:) Thank you Vadim!
Есть плагины, которые в себе несут "аналоговый звук", обрезают хайкатом верх + подбирают или наоборот добавляют низа (warm sound), возможно в этом дело, к примеру, 1-го плагина от Solid (поэтому любые новые купленные я сразу чекаю на пребдмет эквализации встроенной). А так да, без регулировок atack/release любые устройства типа компрессор - что-то непонятное.
😂😂😂😂Bro why you still using these plug ins if you think they not right? We can't wait see the first plug in designed or made by you bro.