Don't get fooled again - Possibly the most important thing you need to know about mixing

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  • Опубліковано 21 жов 2022
  • Mark explains the three elements necessary for hearing your mixes as they really sound.
    Mark Wingfield is a critically-acclaimed jazz mixing and mastering engineer. He has mixed or mastered three Downbeat Magazine Masterpiece Albums of the Year, two JazzWise Best Releases of the Year and three All About Jazz Best Albums of the Year. Jazz albums he has mixed or mastered have received more than 300 rave reviews worldwide. Mark mixes and masters at his UK based Heron Island Studio.
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  • @floatleafmusic
    @floatleafmusic 11 місяців тому +7

    It took me years of painful trial and error to learn things that you've summed in 30 minutes so perfectly! great video

  • @jakobole
    @jakobole Рік тому +4

    Plugins that say they are game-changers, when in reality they are merely gain-changers....

    • @xenstein4298
      @xenstein4298 4 місяці тому

      😂😂😂😂😂😂😂

  • @midikuper3557
    @midikuper3557 Рік тому +7

    Outstandingly good advice. The difference in Mark's recommendations is that it is applicable to mixing material that has a very wide dynamic range. Even for those that are aware of these points, it is easy to level-set consistently when mixing rock with lots of distortion on the guitars, bass, even drums, and everything is just loud, but not at all easy when mixing a jazz group, classical music or other experimental music/alternative music. Thank you! Please give us more on how you mix difficult jazz sessions.

  • @mir9168
    @mir9168 Рік тому +15

    Absolute gold mine of a video, i am one year into music production and didn't know any of this. I am so happy to have learnt this now rather than later.

    • @drindy5166
      @drindy5166 Рік тому +3

      Definitely valuable information and discussion. Also something to go over down the road and revisit as a reminder when utilizing any kind of mixing skills.

    • @fivebyfivesound
      @fivebyfivesound Рік тому +2

      Likewise, Mir. Once I learned the importance of 1) maintaining gain structure along a channel’s signal chain and across a mix and 2) maintaining a consistent monitoring level, these practices*greatly* improved my mixes. All the best to you in your journey.

    • @drindy5166
      @drindy5166 Рік тому +2

      @@fivebyfivesound 💯% 👊🧡👍

  • @m.i.stapes
    @m.i.stapes Рік тому +1

    cheers to a future where all plugins have autogain level matching!

  • @TracyZellars
    @TracyZellars 5 місяців тому

    I’m brand new to the world of music making, and by listening to you and reading through the comments, I’m glad I’ve stumbled upon your videos sir!!!🤔👌🏾✅

  • @GingerDrums
    @GingerDrums Рік тому +12

    Tools from Tokyo Dawn Labs are free and employ LUFS based level matching as standard. Highly reccomend integrating such tools into mixing workflows

  • @JamesHarcourt
    @JamesHarcourt Рік тому

    Gold. Thank you!

  • @simondanielssonmusic
    @simondanielssonmusic 10 місяців тому +1

    Absolutely awesome video!

  • @chillwalker
    @chillwalker Рік тому

    Thanks for all the reminders!!

  • @pedroahets
    @pedroahets Рік тому +1

    Sooo helpful! Thanks a lot!

  • @gilgillis
    @gilgillis Рік тому

    Great video~ Thanks!

  • @drfirenugz2641
    @drfirenugz2641 Рік тому

    This was awesome, good work

  • @fortissimoX
    @fortissimoX 8 місяців тому

    Thank you!

  • @keimaari
    @keimaari Рік тому +1

    This was great, thanks so much for the gems

  • @arthurph9744
    @arthurph9744 Рік тому +10

    This channel will grow so much!! Amazing video. You are great at teaching!

  • @psybursonic
    @psybursonic Рік тому

    Great video ❤

  • @EdwinDekker71
    @EdwinDekker71 Рік тому

    Great video, thanks

  • @AturaxAudio
    @AturaxAudio Рік тому

    Great advice, so so important.

  • @conrow1157
    @conrow1157 Рік тому +2

    Superb!
    Thank you sir!

  • @pluckandstrum
    @pluckandstrum Рік тому

    Thanks for the info, very useful. :)

  • @michaelscottpettis
    @michaelscottpettis Рік тому +1

    Fantastic video, thank you!

  • @ostrol1590
    @ostrol1590 Рік тому +4

    Missed your educational content! Great stuff

  • @oliverpinelli3334
    @oliverpinelli3334 11 місяців тому

    Thank you very much.

  • @adamkiefel79
    @adamkiefel79 Рік тому

    Excellent advice 😊

  • @hodshonf
    @hodshonf Рік тому +3

    excellent breakdown and presentation

  • @luluschnabel9243
    @luluschnabel9243 Рік тому

    Thank you Mark this soooo helpful! Thanks a lot!

  • @zdogg8
    @zdogg8 Рік тому +7

    Wow, best mixing advice EVER, so much here that's pure gold..Thank you Mark.

  • @elpmettsol
    @elpmettsol 10 місяців тому +1

    Very good info! I liked, and subscribed!😊

  • @joshd265
    @joshd265 Рік тому +4

    So much gold in this 🔥

  • @maxdishaw
    @maxdishaw Рік тому +1

    DROPPING GEMS! Thank you

  • @akumusik3582
    @akumusik3582 Рік тому

    Gratitude & Appreciation 💯

  • @DUSKOsound
    @DUSKOsound Рік тому

    Nice sound logo! 🔥

  • @singularity7400
    @singularity7400 Рік тому +1

    You sir are correct an all counts.

  • @DrMarlowski
    @DrMarlowski Рік тому

    Wow, what a fantastic video

  • @user-cd8ze7eo6e
    @user-cd8ze7eo6e 2 місяці тому

    perfect.

  • @vinayakaiyer4408
    @vinayakaiyer4408 Рік тому

    Very Valuable Advice👏

  • @MrSymontech
    @MrSymontech Рік тому

    Very important topic, thank you for this video!

  • @taylorstudios135
    @taylorstudios135 Рік тому +1

    Awesome advice.. Love this

  • @bengineer_the
    @bengineer_the Рік тому

    Thank you. :)

  • @cottoo1
    @cottoo1 Рік тому

    good video, thanks

  • @makemusictoday3130
    @makemusictoday3130 Рік тому +1

    Thank you so much Sir!

  • @Brutuscomedy
    @Brutuscomedy 11 місяців тому +1

    #2 is particularly important and something I ought to address. Thank you for your insights!

  • @robertm708
    @robertm708 Рік тому +3

    An excellent video. Thank you for taking the time to explain everything from an experienced point of view.

  • @toffchunks
    @toffchunks Рік тому

    Really interesting & heplfull thks

  • @photicsonar
    @photicsonar Рік тому +5

    Wow! You made my day! What a fantastic explanation and advices❤

  • @Aleksandr_Igorevich
    @Aleksandr_Igorevich Рік тому +1

    Very serious topic right here. Thank you, sir.

  • @artg7909
    @artg7909 Рік тому

    Best advise.

  • @GingerDrums
    @GingerDrums Рік тому +5

    This is essential, fundamental and true advice that will save hundreds of hours and accelerate the learning curve exponentially. The real opportunity cost of falling for loudness over quality is the hours wasted rather than learning to actually balance music.

  • @RenanBEreanSound
    @RenanBEreanSound Рік тому +2

    Thank you so much. This video is pure gold, your tip number 3 is a life changer.

  • @adelekeadeleke9284
    @adelekeadeleke9284 8 днів тому

    THIS IS NICE ADVICE

  • @freeyourmind790
    @freeyourmind790 Рік тому +2

    Your definitely spot on about your brain turning certain EQs down. I have noticed this but I didn't realise what it really was until watching this.

  • @michailluuko3909
    @michailluuko3909 10 місяців тому +1

    Thank you for the useful advices.
    The implication of the new knowledge is that a mixer engineer should work as fast as possible before getting tired with his/her auditory system.)

  • @steveluk473
    @steveluk473 Рік тому +3

    Extremely wise words …. Wish we all had the ears and means to be able to judge all this on a day to day basis

  • @MonkeyBars1
    @MonkeyBars1 Рік тому +1

    Great information, very underdiscussed basic principles. thanks so much

  • @davidcamarda8301
    @davidcamarda8301 Рік тому +2

    Huge. I kind of knew all of this, but it is valuable to hear it all spoken as a single subject. I can't tell what Ive done without level matching.

  • @jacquelamontharenberg
    @jacquelamontharenberg Рік тому +4

    Excellent advice. I am going to listen to this several more times to burn it in my brain. Thank you. Great video.

  • @LexXxusTVLive
    @LexXxusTVLive Рік тому +9

    This video made me re-think my approach to what I was doing wrong in my mixes.
    I could tell this was happening but did not know it was this.
    Now I know, I know how to correct the misalignments in my mix.
    This applies to level, saturation, and all mark advises here.
    This Is Golden Advice!!

  • @catalystdrums123
    @catalystdrums123 Рік тому +2

    I love this because I've never heard anyone talk about this before in this way

  • @abash4683
    @abash4683 Рік тому +2

    wow what a gem from all the engineers who didn't have mentors to teach them this. thank you

  • @chillwalker
    @chillwalker Рік тому +1

    5:31: The origin of The good old suggestion Trick. When I work with clients from advertising, I use it almost every session.
    My Version is (its always about "more bass") to not only grab a dead grab a knob, but slowly drawing clockwise, looking the Client deep in the eyes till he says "Excellent". Funny thing: Its always the same point when its "Excellent")

  • @yiannismanopoulos
    @yiannismanopoulos Рік тому +1

    I love this video! Intelligent and usuful advices for things all of us can daily get wrong !

  • @brentbrownmusic
    @brentbrownmusic Рік тому +2

    Awesome video! Thanks Mark.
    Just ordered a sound meter as I’ll be recording a new album this winter. Sooo many future frustrating days will be avoided.

  • @ansmfella
    @ansmfella 6 місяців тому +1

    Inestimably valuable advise! That you so much for your time and sharing this wisdom accumulated through your great work. Saving us a great amount of time in trial and error

  • @the_other_dude
    @the_other_dude Рік тому +1

    Thank you algorithm gods. Great stumbling on this!
    *ez subscribed*

  • @CaptainProton1
    @CaptainProton1 Рік тому +2

    Thank you so much for this, I think this is a huge part of any mistake I am making.

  • @thelifeofalii333
    @thelifeofalii333 Рік тому +1

    Wow this is going to change my life, I have literally probably re mixed thousands of ideas not knowing this. Thank you

  • @MusiclyricsByECDaleyC
    @MusiclyricsByECDaleyC Рік тому +15

    Really great advice, very clear and so very important! also love your delivery on this topic. It's so easy to end up chasing your mix endlessly, with days crap as the result....

  • @obecojb
    @obecojb Рік тому +3

    Thank you so much! I learned to stop mixing after 2 hours and take a 30 minutes break. You are so right!

  • @slackdog71
    @slackdog71 Рік тому +5

    Very well done. I have heard all of this advice many times from many people over the years. What they usually fail to do is explain "why" you should follow these principles. I know that for myself (and perhaps for Mark) there was a lot of trial and error, and many mistakes made along the way. So thank you for explaining in such a clear and concise way.

  • @nigeltdavies
    @nigeltdavies Рік тому +1

    Excellent and thought-provoking! I have subscribed.

  • @__prtcl
    @__prtcl Рік тому +3

    Great advice on level matching plugins. I noticed that Pro C2 does this, so I made my own default preset that turns off autogain and starts at a more neutral setting of just compressing a couple DB. Changed my life

  • @espenandersen3138
    @espenandersen3138 Рік тому +1

    I hear alot of mixes that have been done on a too low level - harsh sounds
    time is always short - pressure is privilege, result - focus

  • @mikaleppaaho
    @mikaleppaaho Рік тому +2

    Thank you for your valuable information! In youtube there's lots of a material about quick and "cheap" tricks and tips and also overwhelmingly detailed stuff for the beginner as myself. Not many are reminding to get your fundamentals and workflow right at first. Nice to see though that I have somewhat intuitively gone to the right direction but this explained a lot of things I kinda had been starting to notice. The way I'm trying to stay on the map while mixing is I've measured the "standard" mixing volume by listening at the same pleasant and probably quite average volume some stuff that I like and consider nicely mixed and mastered (and that also have lots of details and is somewhat in the same field with the stuff I create). Time to time I check my creations with different type of devices and volumes. I've put other people listen to my work in progress to get at least some feedback even though not that professional. I also like to working on couple of songs and changing from time to time to another. That is also because of it works better for my creativity and maybe helps not to overcomplicate things and also not to get bored. Still have noticed a day after some too long session that I've done stupid stuff and wasted a lot of time for less quality. Btw, lots of people also say to just trust your ears but actually you can't really trust too much :D Well, more of a musical and artistic aspects that's maybe more true.

  • @drindy5166
    @drindy5166 Рік тому +2

    How many times I have noticed the db trick a lot of plug ins use. Always questioned it myself and now I am glad someone else recognizes this practice. I generally stay away from plug ins short of a few dedicated to sidechaining and dealing with kickdrums and low end signals such as bass. Great video brother! 👊🧡👍

  • @GaunCochran
    @GaunCochran Рік тому +1

    Really good video! Tdr slickeq M is something that’s useful for fixing mixes after working at too loud or quiet. It has an EL curve EQ that can be useful on the master bus to nudge something back in the right direction

  • @BOODA575
    @BOODA575 Рік тому

    This is the best advice on youtube about mixing “ getting used to the one level workflow really allowed me to hear what plugins do and how to hit the sweetspot alot better

  • @petecoyne
    @petecoyne Рік тому +4

    Many thanks for this - really well explained process for getting consistent levels and a workflow through mixing and mastering. A tiny increase in volume level from plugins - some as you say at zero settings - can really fool your ears as to 'improvement' in sound!

  • @4brvhvm
    @4brvhvm Рік тому +3

    Very valuable information and advice. Hit the sub, bell and like button within seconds. We appreciate you Mark! Keep dropping them gems 💎

  • @y-man8925
    @y-man8925 Рік тому +2

    Great advice ! All of them make a lot of sense and thanks for doing it in a very understandable way … 👍 !

  • @nebstaism
    @nebstaism Рік тому +2

    This is very good .... he’s right.... my master is always hitting at minus 6db ... and always mix not too loud and always try to mix at the same volume most of the time.... the sooner I started doing all this.... my mixes improved a lot

  • @fatalitydnb
    @fatalitydnb Рік тому +1

    Great video. I have gradually learnt most of these points through time. Very well explained sir 🎯👍🏼
    Although I generally don’t put any limiter on my stereo channel / 2 bus (mixing), at any stage. That is a whole next conversation… ‘gain staging’ and ‘headroom’ etc 😃👍🏼

  • @thefeelcompany
    @thefeelcompany Рік тому

    Subbed!

  • @davidasher22
    @davidasher22 Рік тому +2

    This s a very informative video. It’s definitely information I know and techniques I practice but it’s dead on accurate! I even had a hunch what number 3 was before we got there. Lol but that’s the great part! It’s obviously coming from genuine experience from a person who knows what they are talking about. Plus it reminded me of some bad practices I’ve gotten lazy with. Like the level matching. I used to do it more but lately kinda not so much. I do feel like I can hear those minute volume Changes and can differentiate from actual saturation. But it’s probably also hindering my work at times. So. That’s a good reminder to stay on track. I also thought you were gonna mention possibly using reference material when you got into the brain EQ thing only number 3. Sometimes recalibrating with a song you know and love will keep you on track with tonal balance. But there is that point when there’s no helping the ear fatigue and you start to feel like you going on n a circle. That’s my que to shut it down! Looking forward to more video like this! Thanks!

  • @steppabanton9753
    @steppabanton9753 Рік тому +1

    I don't know how I got here but you got yourself a new subscriber

  • @Nullllus
    @Nullllus Рік тому +1

    17:00 you can set a recall level in RME software and have your reference level at the touch of a button.

  • @2ndMOUSEofficial
    @2ndMOUSEofficial Рік тому +13

    Great advice Mark. Point 3 was a biggie for me. I remember being so in the zone about what I was doing that i'd regularly do all-nighters and worked on things for 12 hours straight. When I listened back the next day, it was like listening to somebody elses track, because the brain had EQ'd it and I'd become acclimatized to the resonaces. Even now I still sometimes have to just reset all the faders to zero again and introduce them one at a time until I achieve something more balanced.

    • @jasabasenara8124
      @jasabasenara8124 Рік тому +2

      I know that feeling. Time goes so quick. That's the problem. 12 hours doesn't feel like 12 hours. 👍

  • @3DManShadowland
    @3DManShadowland 10 місяців тому

    I don't use sound level meters to measure what my speakers are putting out. I simply set a level which I will work at that is comfortable to my ears and keep it there as the system volume, then I measure the audio using an analyzer and set the sound to whatever volume I am wanting going for such as -14 LUFS, all the way to -9 LUFS and a maximum pea value of -.6 to -1 for head room. Of course genre have a lot to do with what level you want to be at, or what they insist on. But, I want to put it at a competitive level. Which any more is actually fairly loud. Also always aware at transferring from formats of audio because often more than not the peak level will change.

  • @Bittamin
    @Bittamin Рік тому +1

    The only plug-ins I have are stock through logic, but I noticed a lot of the stock plugins also have auto gain on a lot of them, thankfully for things like the compressor you can turn it off and then opt into makeup gain after setting ratio/threshold/ect

  • @foxytv4896
    @foxytv4896 Рік тому +1

    Haha, the PSP Xenon Limiter is on my Mixbus for at least 10 years now. If there was one thing I couldn't live without...that's it. Default setting is 7dB boost and I must never hit more than 3dB of gain reduction. With this Method I know always end up with around -14LUFS on any Mix I make. Not that I did target -14LUFS on purpose, it just turned out that way.

  • @ReelX1
    @ReelX1 Рік тому +1

    I like the earfocussed aproach of things here, still the most overseen by mixers all over the world ,thanks for the reminder (ps: still no consensus that everyone can hear a 1dB difference but that will be around the hearable level )

  • @thefoxfamily341
    @thefoxfamily341 Рік тому

    The first Minutes trigger me very well..u are a good teacher..and u help me little bit better to understand loudness better..thanks and big Respekt..best wishes from Vienna ✌️ 🇦🇹

  • @punchilux5783
    @punchilux5783 Рік тому +1

    Being a little facetious of course-- great video! Def gonna pay attention to my maximum mixing level because I am for sure guilty of mixing with the volume up high. My rule of thumb is if it sounds good at a reasonable level, it will sound good at a loud level.

  • @marihi8621
    @marihi8621 Рік тому +1

    volume is like adding salt when you cook. salt is important but shouldn't be used to mask the fact that the food tastes dull. good food should taste interesting without salt and taste amazing with a very deliberate amount of salt.

  • @eddieleonard6925
    @eddieleonard6925 Рік тому +3

    Great discussion. I truly appreciate your thoughts on saturation and how many plug-ins claim to better a signal simply by running through it. I've often wondered whether or not this was 100% true. Saturation has become a bit of a buzz word in our world, and can be misused, as you stated. Everyone wants a "warm" and "punchy" mix, no matter the genre, but few have the vocabulary to explain exactly what this means. My world changed when I switched from saturation plug-ins to using Rupert Neve Designs 542 tape emulators. They do exactly what you describe, subtly bring everything to life, without raising volume. I've also had nice results with very small touches of plug-ins like Radiator and Decapitator. Softtube has also some great saturation plug-ins that work well in very light moves. Love the video. Thanks for sharing. Cheers,

    • @oinkooink
      @oinkooink Рік тому +4

      The new buzz word is "spectral"

  • @tekis0
    @tekis0 Рік тому +1

    I run a tone through ALL of my "go-to" plug-ins. I set a "unity gain preset" as MY "default starting preset." I do this so I'm NOT fooled by putting that plug-in I line. It takes a few hours to do this, but it's well worth the trouble.

  • @twocanmusic4159
    @twocanmusic4159 Рік тому +3

    Hey! Really great video, if you could dedicate a video about how to setup your projects to have a safe level of volume to produce longterm that would be great! Definately something that is overlooked!

    • @miquelmarti6537
      @miquelmarti6537 Рік тому +2

      Calibrate your refference point (0dB rms) to 80dB with the help of a pressure meter. Then try to mix not into the red. Search for K-system

  • @mm100latests5
    @mm100latests5 Рік тому +2

    solid advice! I would add that when you are calibrating DAW to SPL int he room, also consider RMS in the the DAW along with peak as you mentioned.

  • @TheJohnnyjean
    @TheJohnnyjean Рік тому +1

    83db is a pretty loud mixing level ! Mixing super quiet has been very beneficial for me..

  • @quipsta
    @quipsta Рік тому +1

    Greetings from York Mark !