San Diego: Senseless Fatal Crash 02232018
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- Опубліковано 23 лют 2018
- DATE/TIME OF INCIDENT: 2-23-18 11:14 am
LOCATION: Balboa Ave & Mt. Abernathy Ave
CITY: San Diego
INCIDENT DETAILS:
A 91-year-old woman ran a red light striking the black sedan. The woman's car was, in turn, then thrown into the traffic signal post and the car split in two. The 91-year-old woman in that car was pronounced dead at the scene. The 30-year old female was transported to a local hospital, unknown what he injuries are.
SDPD is investigating.
Where I live, people think red lights and stop signs are only suggestions. I creep forward and look both ways at green lights and stop signs. "Right of way" doesn't mean much to those who think they have the right to disregard traffic laws.
I was setting at a red light waiting for the light to turn green to go though it and it turned green and the other traffic had the red light and a pickup truck behind the red light started to come at me after i was in the middle of the damn intersection still under a green light moving and cut me off i had to lay on the breaks and blew the horn on my car to alert the dumb fuck i was there about to pass in front of them in the road they didn't give a rats ass that i had the green light and pulled out in front of me i glanced over to my left to see if their light was still red and it was and i still had a green light and i was going 45 mph though the intersection so when i laid on my breaks and horn i had just avoided being hit by that pickup cutting me off .. i would of been T boned by a chevy pickup truck . driving my 1993 Ford Taurus GL. i always say if i get in a crash it won't be my fault it will be someone else's fault for me ending up in a car crash
It's the same in my area too, that's why I have invested into a 1,100 pound front bumper that has inch thick metal plating on it, so if i'm ever hit it will the the idiot who get the worst of it.
Amen. Here as well.
Sad but true.
@@erica-lillycrider1088 Rule No. 1: if someone is crazy, LET THEM HAVE THE RIGHT OF WAY.
My grandma is 91 and drives just fine. Takes her time, and trys to stay out of troubles' way. Luv ya Grandma!
A worse way to die rather than laying on a peaceful bed
tragic, yes, but not senseless. i think preventable is the word. elderly should be required to pass another driving test once they reach a certain age so that things like this dont happen.
California law does require anyone over 70 to renew their license in person and they must pass a written and vision test. They must do this every five years. Also, California law allows for special restrictions on drivers over 70 that could prohibit free way driving or driving at night to name a few. Still, just like young people how have suspended or revoked licenses that still drive, elderly people still may drive without their license or ignore restrictions, etc. I know a woman in her 80's who still drives and is perfectly capable--mentally and physically--to do so. States do the best they can but they can't just revoke privileges based solely on age.
My thoughts exactly Olivia!! I’d say something between 65-75yrs automatic drive off with DPS.
Things like this can happen and yhey do no matter what age yhats why they call them accidents
I took my mom's key and her car away from her after one day I had 3 phone calls saying "Omg, I saw your mom out driving today and she almost backed into a car" and another 2 similar to that. THREE CALLS. I bought her the car anyways so I could take it back lol . I may have saved her life and someone else's by taking her keys & car. She's 83 now and has dementia. She saids all the time that she'd like to buy a car so she can drive or maybe get a job. God love her. Lol she can hardly walk 15 steps to the bathroom without help.
As family, we some times need to be the bad guys and force our elderly loved ones to not drive!
@@debbiedarrah6518 stop posting and work on your SpELlinG.
For someone who have never witnessed an accident such as this sticks with them the rest of their life. You never forget.
Guys, the description is there for a reason. The 91 year old sped through the light and struck the black car, not the other way around.
You should listen to the young man at 6:00. He stated the black car sped up to make the light and hit the other car, not the other way around. From what I've seen with senior drivers is they drive way too slow, not usually the other way around. The 30 YO may have very well caused the death of the 91 YO.
@Catoline Battelli Dewitt "whether the male victim survived or not ,she would be charged with vehicular manslaughter" Do you understand that to be charged with manslaughter someone has to die?
Steven Schempp I agree TOTALLY Steven. The description gives the FACTS and not assumptions. Thus further investigation into the capabilities of a 91 year olds ability to be driving safely. Which then leads to the need to a complete (road rules test & physical driving test) retesting of drivers from a certain age continuing at prescribed intervals as age increases. Witness's comments need investigating as well for contributing factors example - the witness who claimed to have witness the whole accident stated (who stated he was 1/4 mile. away )"black car sped up to make the light" which is a common action.
@@terririckert7069 The description got the facts wrong. It was the other way around--the younger driver sped through the light and caused the accident.
@@sallydavidson4471 he didn't see the crash lol he heard it happen , he was quoting what the people said at the gas station
It's so hard for my mind to comprehend what i'm looking at when staring at the leftovers of what was once a complete automobile. WOW.
I’m 71 and thinking my time is coming, about to give up driving.
Yeah, the life you save might just be mine !
Just arrange to take another driving test and see how you do.
My mom is 87 yrs old and she drives great! So Claudia there is hope.
Just take the driving test every year or two. If you fail, then surrender your license. Thanks for being a responsible person. I plan on being the same way if I live that long.
@@petroldevo9934
You could have been a little nicer!
I can't say this was age related because i see A LOT of younger people running red lights and stops signs like you have options when you approach them. One man narrowly missed me running the like and not paying attention. After watching this channel, I don't even see the roads the same. When i see cars speeding, an image pops in my head from this show. You can be a person driving right, obeying all signs, and STILL end up injured or dead due to someone else's' carelessness. SMH
She's 91 why not be in home resting, granny can't see on the road anymore
Long ago my father in law would say to us ...if you think I get to old to drive, please take away my car keys, he was a very wise man....that day came, it was sad to take away his car keys, he was very independent, when we drove him anywhere, we let him drive into the garage....but we laughed, he was like a kid whose parents gave him the car keys for the first time.....of course we kept our distance.....lol. Such a wise and funny man.
Just me Just me Awww bless your dad
My wife and I had to take the car keys from her father. When he became lost or confused at 90, he was a danger to himself and others. It was sad but necessary.
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Absolutely no way that car was traveling even close to the posted speed limit to get destroyed that badly. Makes me think the elderly woman had a medical problem prior to accident. Just my opinion.
I was thinking -confused the gas and the brake.
Whatever that car was, it was a total piece of shit.
God Blessed America most likely in a panic she was pressing the gas instead of brakes after she hit the car .. sensory issues at that age .. Can u imagine what was going through her mind she probably had instant organ failure
matttafakt looks like a Toyota Camry !
God Blessed America it’s called being too fucking old to drive and being retarded!!
come on now guys..these ppl are literally saying in the interview "I didn't see the crash, but what I heard was......that right there tells you not to believe anything they say,." The 91 yr old lad RAN the light, not the black car!! According to police reports and the "REAL" news, 91 yr old Doris Lucille Guffin was driving at a high rate of speed running a red light hitting the black car, injuring the young driver...
Truth! I am trying to make this one guy believe that but he would rather read under the video and believe the witnesses who didn't see anything. He would rather call me a bitch than google Doris by name and read the truth and call me names. He is ignorant... not sure if he is a kid or not, but he's got problems.
My goodness how fast was someone driving for this type of wreckage-
It always amazes me how much damage a vehicular accident can do. I can't imagine seeing this accident take place. Sad.
At the age of 91, it's highly probable that she was having a medical emergency such as a heart attack or stroke, which in turn caused her to lose control of her car. Tragic.
91 yrs old! As much as I respect seniors (I’ll be one one day), there needs to be a certain age where seniors have their licenses retired.
I know everything y’all are saying is true. But what about the elderly that have no means of going anywhere? To doctor appt, grocery store, drugstore for meds, and all other necessities . It’s easy to blame the elderly, but most of you are not in their shoes yet. It’s their last shred of independence. It would be nice if people would offer the elderly transportation, but how many times does that happen? With no relatives or people to help them they are completely on their own. It’s so sad, but try “walking” a mile in their shoes before your so quick to judge.
You don't so stop telling others to. And stop saying others are being judgemental when your ass is judging them for thinking they're being judgemental. None of that is an excuse for an elderly person to drive, get real. Shes lucky a child wasn't involved and that accident didn't kill the other driver moron
@@babyblue797
Triggerd?
Thank you Nancy. Not many folks will stop long enough and think about that this way but it's very true. Fortunately I can still drive very well.....drive a dirt track late model racer and still winning at the ripe old age of 71, but not all 71 year olds can say that. Independance is the key word here and I have seen many older people go that. My in-laws went through that just 4 years ago. Thank you for your clear way of explaining it to everyone so they will know. God bless you sweet lady.........Jim
Nancy Dugan with respect....at a certain age, our reflexes aren’t up to driving. There are other means to travel that doesn’t involve putting others at risk. Look at this......his confusion caused this. My grandad got to the point that we took his keys and car away. He knew it was the right thing to do to save, not just him, but innocent people who are capable. It’s about responsibility, and knowing when to stop. There are no excuses I’m afraid.
I had my Dad's doctor contact the DMV when I became concerned about his driving at the age of 77. He didn't pass the test when the DMV called him in and they revoked his license. I never sold his car until after he passed away several years later. It was only two years old when he lost his license and it was paid for. He maintained it, insured it, had fuel put in it etc and had the means to do so. Anytime my sister or I would go to his house to take him shopping or to a doctor appointment it was always "Let's take my car" so we drove it with him in it. He still had the mindset that someday he would be allowed to drive but in the meantime he still had "his car". . Until he died we always took Dad in his car. It made him feel better that he still owned one.
An old lady failed to yield heading home from the grocery store and hit me head on and totaled my car. I am SUPER CAUTIOUS now!
Djk34💘💝💖 are you single how old you are
This is just horrible and so so so so sad. May she rest in peace and my thoughts and prayers go out to her family and friends. Your right 91 is to old to be still driving.My grandma is in her early 80's and still driving and sometimes she scares me so I don't think it will be long before she has her right to drive taken by my mom and uncle's . I know it won't be easy to do and she will fuss. She still thinks she can do everything herself And won't listen to anyone so she is in the early stages of memory loss I believe. Which is pretty heartbreaking to all of her family. She hasn't been the same since my granddaddy died in 2007. It really affected her hard. I live with her so at least she don't have to live alone. And our family is pretty good about coming and seeing her and calling to check on her. Well only certain family members actually. Idk what I'm going to do when her time comes. I've lived with my grandparents off and on pretty much my whole they pretty much raised me. So if you have still have your grandparents around take time to be with them. And tell them you love them cause you never know when they are going to be gone. And God bless all of the cops and firefighters that have to deal with death day in and day out. They sure are brave.
To live 91 year and only to die in such a horrific accident, may that person rest in peace, not a way to die I just hope that person was not in pain long. I sure hope that automobile manufacturers see these types of accidents, its not normal for a vehicle (especially Toyota) to split in half in an accident, there has been too many vehicles that has split in an accident lately
Totally agree!
No Haters,Cars have been torn in half,since the invention of cars,just sayin',The car that hit this vehicle was travelling at a very high rate of speed.So San Diegans,get off of your phones,and slow down.
Agreed, all cars have been getting safer gradually. This body style camry 2006 thru 2012 was not as safe obviously as say a new one, that's not to say this would not have happened in a Volvo, there are just so many variables in a crash such as this. The first Tesla fatality several years ago was stolen and split in half downtown LA after hitting a pole at a high rate of speed.
That chick was Fuh-lying!! 😑🙈that poor lil lady didn't stand a chance and probably didn't even know what hit her! Poor soul. May she R.I.P. I hope she didn't suffer, either! 😔⚜
Do you think a car would get this way around a light pole and split in half unless someone was driving way to tucking fast.
There is something odd about this. According to the guy (eye witness) at 6:18 the black car ran through trying to beat a red light and struck the other car and yet the description blames the other car that just happened to have a 91 year old in the drivers seat. Who are we to believe ?
That doesn’t even look like a car!
Sorry her life ended this way. It shouldn't have. She should NEVER have been allowed to be driving at 91! I don't care how young and active she felt. She needed her license taken away. Someone who cared about her should have grown a set and taken it and sold her car. My sisters and I did that with my parents when they turned 80. No arguments. It was time. Dad wasn't driving well anymore. Wasn't about to wait for something awful to happen! And, they loved being chauffeured around!!
It took convincing for my grandma to stop driving. she is in her 80s and would go to the store down the road and then call home because he was lost. After she fractured her hip and has trouble walking 3 years ago she finally full accepted she cant drive anymore. She was sad her freedom was gone but she finally understood.
It depends on whether or not she could still pass a driving test, and was medically fit. THAT should be the criteria, not some arbitrary number.
God bless yall for that.
I know some young drivers that drive worse than most elderly drivers I know........
The fine for running a red light should be $5000. And, if video is submitted from a citizen showing the person running a red light, it should be able to be used for a conviction of the owner of the car regardless of who is driving it.
my prayers go out to all and their families
The part that irks my liver is that SO MANY people rushed to LOOK & SEE what happened... Not to rush out and HELP!
I was in a serious wreck (not my fault) and it took a good 4-5 minutes for someone (on a busy road at a stoplight) to come ask if I needed help and call 911. Because I was NOT on my phone, I had no idea where it was.
Where were the people rushing to HELP IN THIS ACCIDENT?
I have to completely agree with this
So many stop to stare or video a scene then drive off offering no help
Makes me sick to my stomach x
It's just a guess but I think that the elderly lady may have been deceased with the accelerator pinned to the floor prior to the collision. Why else would she not only run the light but be travelling fast enough to tear apart the Camry on impact with the pole? The Camry had to be travelling at a very high rate of speed. RIP
Watching the video, has made me be much more aware, about my driving and always, keep Focus.
Cars dont just RIP apart like that without going super fast!! I was in the fire dept and saw a lot of these kind of wrecks!
Camrys do actually.
91? Isn't 91 too old too be driving ?
That's like giving the keys to the car to a toddler.
I can remember every single fatal collision I ever responded to. The memories never leave.
As I watch these horrible accidents I can't help thinking how I am not ready for my son to have his license the end of this year . Now I understand how my mom felt .
The best thing you could do is show him some of these Videos.
WHAT AN ABSOLUTE HORRIFIC TRAGEDY. RIP GRANDMA. TO THE FAMILY MEMBERS OF BOTH SIDE'S OF THE ACCIDENT IM SO VERY SORRY. LOVE FROM CANADA🇨🇦❤🇺🇸
Jesus Christ! How do these mangled messes happen?!
That's why I'm always cautious entering an intersection scanning it to make sure vehicles are stopped. I never pull out from a green light without making sure everyone is stopped. We can always have the right of way but don't want to end up DEAD right.
Must pray for me and others before driving !
Sad ending...when he calls you, dont matter what you are doing, you are going....
Aren't all accidents that lead to death senseless?
Marilyn Desrosiers....who said they weren't?
oh I could think of a few people if they died it wouldn't be senseless.
not really, a crash that happens because there is a toddler on the road and ur trying to avoid killing them can lead to a crash that ends in your death but is not senseless.
Kinda depends on perspective I think.
There are no accidents -- only crashes.
Geeeze how fast Was she going! WOW! 😳!
I just watched this video and heard the young man being interviewed. He clearly stated that the black car ran the red light. Also, the damage being only on the front of the black car seems to indicate that it side slammed the silver car.
Don't forget he said "from my understanding", alluding to the fact that he might not have been correct. I assume the person whom uploaded this video would be more likely to check an official police report, and thus have the most accurate information. The fact that the black car t boned the silver made it seem like the black car ran the red based on the impacts, when its also very likely that could have happened had the silver ran the red. Also, the silver car had the 91 year old in it and I only assume she would be more likely to run a red than a 30 year old with an Acura
Based on that, the guy was probably just still in shock and just slightly messed up the facts, nothing wrong, its human nature, and you're right, the impacts did make it seem that way, so confirmation bias is also at play
Holy crap...What kind of car was that??
I can't even tell what parts are where! Wow!!
If people would learn to slow down cars wouldn't split in half can't blame the car manuf for peoples stupidity
they don't make cars as strong as they did in the 50s and 60s, and that's a FACT.
God willing, the lady hopefully didn't feel a thing. RIP Ma'am.
Oh she felt a thing!
For a few seconds.
A common problem that some seniors seem to have is mistake the gas pedal for the brakes, I think this may have been what happened because the 91 year old woman had to have been traveling at a high rate of speed for that kind of damage. This happened to my 89 year old mother in law twice, causing minor damage and it was reported to the dmv who then gave her a behind the wheel test and she failed miserably. She refused to take class room and behind the wheel refresher lessons so DMV took away her license.
OMG I hope everybody's okay
A 91 year old has no business still driving!
What are we watching? The aftermath!? Already taken from the scene?
I'm assuming that the description is from the officials investigating the accident since the person they were speaking with said the sedan ran the red light. He said those in IHOP saw the accident, hence my inquiry.
how fast was that Camry goin?? or was it in a accident before and then repaired improperly?
So sad
what are the circles for on the pavement?
I was behind this brand new nice Mercedes Benz in Northern California when I saw that Mercedes run a red light that lady driving dint even know she has run a red lighting she was around 80 yrs old and so close to be hit just like this one accident we saw on here.
Just drives in the point(in such a horrific, ugly way)...just because you have the green, doesn't mean all cross traffic stops! Kudos to first responders and what a shame! It's unlikely the elderly lady suffered.
Bless her heart
Bless her heart???? She could have killed someone (besides herself). She WASN'T a VICTIM!
There is something about the wind whipping and the tape flapping in the breeze that makes this somehow emotional. Very sad, incredibly violent. I can't imagine her going any less than 90mph for that level of destruction
I have seen a 1963 Impala cut in half when the young man was doing 60 on a 35 mph street , lost control on wet road spun and hit a pole side ways - - the motor, windshield, firewall and the front part of the frame along with the front tires were in one spot and the drivers's seat back was in another and they were looking for body parts in the woods because he was ejected and flew into the trees which dismembered him. Now that was a full frame solid metal 1963 car not one like today's that's half plastic and old beer cans
Grandma went out with a bang, damn.
Elderly taking tests? I’ve driven for 50 years without a single ticket or accident. I’ve avoided several collisions from younger drivers texting while driving. Get your facts straight youngster and pay attention when YOU drive. You may hit me someday.
That’s amazing how the Toyota split in half like that. The Acura must have really been flying.
What a place to have an accident, near a church and an auto parts store. I had an accident similar to this some years ago, yes the lady was 91 and her name was Ms Kennedy , she told the cops that she felt that she did not have to stop for a stop sign, I just looked at her in disbelief. Just thank god Ms Kennedy did not kill me or herself, but she totaled my car.
Just...Wow
Not trying to make light of the tragedy, but couldn't help noting the smaller print under the Auto Zone sign... My thoughts and prayers for the families.
We NEED more testing for elderly drivers..I spent 30+ years in public safety.. and I’ve had elderly family members that I’ve wondered why their licenses were not taken away..
This is California! I can’t believe you have such discrimination against your elders! Most accidents are caused by mush younger drivers!
What does the state have anything to do with it?
that pole did not give up any of its' secrets. and what are the circles for on the pavement at the 5:12 mark
Wow! Slow down. Regard others on the road. These accidents r preventable. I don't understand y humans don't understand, that cars r weapons, at high speeds. RIP! Blessings and prayers to the families and cops and firemen. Life is short enough!
damn, someone must have been going REAL fast.
Why are they asking him? He wasnt there... You can knock on someones door in the atea or go to a business and ask same questions and get answer "i heard a loud bang" no shit. Ya think? Why didnt they talk to someone in auto zone or a cop or one of the other 300 businesses there if they saw what happened? Get a better story than the guy 1/2 mile away who saw nothing knows nothing just heard a bang and saw mangled cars and police there when he got there. Guess what? So did i see the same shit. Interview me
Description in this is wrong according to eye witness account. Old lady turning left hit by the black car.
Jesus, how fast was she moving?
I remember this like it was yesterday I was working at the Shell gas station at the time of this accident.. very sad situation.
I was the driver of the black car... it was the other driver who had ran the red... and you were the first to ask if I was okay
@@analizajavier974 I hope you're doing well. 💖
ana liza javier glad you made it I know accident are scary
The witness said the black car ran the red light and hit the elderly woman, not the other way around.
What was this 91 year old woman doing? Pegging the speedometer out? That car is shredded!!!!
Geeze people, take care of your elderly families, neighbors, etc.!!!
So sad 😔
the most dangerous thing is to go blindly though a green light . sadly
Uh, it is HIGHLY impractical to stop at every green light. You're more likely to cause a rear end collision doing that.
@@ffjsb it is a good driving practice to look both ways as you enter an intersection just after the light changes to green.
@@earthangel8730 I didn't say you couldn't look...
In San Diego they have a fairly developed artistic sense. Love-Love !
Chris Farley said it right
That will leave a mark
For anyone posting about the elderly driver, listen to the eye witness. The 30 year old hit the 90 year old trying to beat a light change. I don't understand why people get in such a hurry. Waiting your turn or letting someone merge with traffic only takes minutes off the time. Courtesy and careful driving can save a life.
Great witness! Guy with the glasses & ball cap....kudos to you ❤
None of the *witnesses* saw the impact. Those who gave a statement put the blame on the younger driver, but the older lady, the one who died, ran the red light.
What are you talking about?? 🙄 he didn’t even see it and he was wrong assuming it was the other car!!! Idiot
Worst witness ever!!! He didn't know wtf he was talking about!!! Are you nuts!
Every light, wait to make sure other cars are slowing down.
They had to both be flying for that kind of damage.
Very very sad, it was determined the 91 year old was driving at a high rate of speed and ran the red light causing the accident
Nick Babeaux Thanks for the info. It's weird, all of the witnesses told us it was the other way around.
That's sad at least she lived a long life
I got hit from the side while I was on a "protected" green light. Never saw her coming. Other cars were blocking her path of destruction. Thank God everyone was okay. She went into someone's backyard and hit a gas line.
The 91 year old had to have been going like a bat out of hell for her car to be torn completely in half after impacting the traffic light pole.
This is the worst accident I’ve ever seen!
Doesnt take much to destroy a Camry even low speed crashes are fatal the vast majority of the time! RIP.
I would hate to think what the victims looked like if that was the state of the cars..don't know how first responders can cope
91? Wtf? WHY WAS SHE DRIVING???
What a sad ending to a long life. I am 65 and I have gotten to the point where I don’t drive much anymore. I really feel once a person gets up in age a road test should be required not just a written test. It doesn’t help that people don’t drive like they should I drive the speed limit and people fly by me all time guess that’s why I have never had a speeding ticket in my entire life.
My father continued to drive until his health failed age 91. I'm 55, but I know I won't still be driving at his age. I'm not as careful as my dad.
What is lost in much of the conversation below is the fact that when you revoke someones license they have no way to get to where they need to go legally. In the city there is, to some degree public transportation. But in rural America you have no way to go to the store, the doctor, or visit friends. Thanks to a concerted effort to get rid on trains and mass transportation a license and car are the only to get around.
One or both of those vehicles must have been going really fast.
Poor granny. At 91 she should be driven, not driving. RIP 🌹🕊
I don't mean to be rude, but should a 91 year old still be driving? God Bless her, and hopefully the 30 year old turned out to be ok.
Dios mío si no lo veo no lo creo tantas vidas perdidas.
tragic
The silver car looked like it was cut in half, did anyone survive?
States should require anyone over 70 y.o. to test when renewing DL. 1) a written test; 2) a reflex & vision test; 3) road test.
I say do it every year. Because as you get older things happen a lot faster.
Good grief! At 0:45, you can't even tell what that car was! There just HAD to be speed involved in that crash to cause that kind of damage!
V6 camrys are as fast as they are death traps edit; I wrote this before hearing the testimony. God I’m sorry for that person..I hope no pain was felt