@@imreallydamntiredi’d still pick the sigma 70-200 vs a used gm ii, sorry but the image quality is up there with the gm ii, better OSS on the sigma as well since it’s a newer lens with better advanced technology (2021 vs 2023) and yes i’ve owned both, at 200mm as soon as you half way press the shutter the OSS on the sigma is so still, whereas with the sony i can still notice a bit of a jitter.
@@RCGJR_ Is the autofocus same fast? I would like to get 300 mm f2.8 (to be honest) but, I feel it can wait a few months more for the decision. I know, I know.. it's just 200mm, while you can put TC's on 70-200 GM II and still have better macro and better focal range but its double the price and idk if that is worth it, IF I STILL WANT TO SELL it just a 6-12 months later.
hi mike, you're like my biggest inspiration and i love your work and your videos. I just wanted to say that i personally prefer, when showing the images, when the image doesnt cover all of the screen. Just a little bit of blank space is enough, just like you did with the shot at 10:52, i think it enables us to see the picture in its entirety and not having to focus on just the center.
Just got the Sigma 70-200 last week. Awesome lens and picture quality. Didnt see the mention that Sony put a Max of 15 shots a seccond when shooting continuous. For shooting with surtain boddies probably the Sony lens wil be a better choice depending on the budget but recon that when someone has such a camera body they can affort the Sony lens
to anyone watching this video, here are a few things he doesn’t mention: * note those prices were in USD & not AUD. that’s cuz for some reason, the retail price of the sigma & GM2 here in Australia is almost the same (maybe $100 difference unless they’re running a sale/special). * that’s why I went for the GM2 when I bought mine 2 weeks ago, cuz why pay for a 3rd party glass when a native glass is just the same price & I’d argue better overall. * Sony also caps 3rd party glass to 15FPS I think. Not a deal breaker unless you have the A1 or A9 series. * No disrespect to Sigma whatsoever (I have the 85 1.4 & absolutely love the quality), but as someone who owns the 14 GM, 35 GM & 70-200 GM2..the focusing speed & accuracy of all those compared to my 85 Sigma is night & day. You just can’t beat Sony on Sony. Those XD Linear Motors are to die for. My 2 cents, if you’ve already got the money to pay for the Sigma 70-200, maybe just save up a couple of more months & then blindly go for the Sony 70-200 GM 2. You won’t regret it & you’ll be thanking yourself…so will your non-trigger arm.
I see the SONY 70-200mm F2.8 II at around AU $3199 and the SIGMA 70-200mm F2.8 DG DN for around $2499 (and as low as $1999 on DCXPERT). AU $700 is a HUGE difference, especially when you factor in how well the Sigma version has been reviewed.
you are wrong, the real price difference is between 600 and 800 AU$. Besides that, Sigma also uses solenoid motors like Sony and Tamreon lenses. Four, to be exact. Still, it is much slower to autofocus than Sony 70-200 g ssm ii for some reason. It certainly does NOT pass the erratic subject tracking.
I always have issues with my 70-200 gm ii I don’t use a tripod and when I take photos and zoom in later they’re never sharp, always a little out of focus or just blurry like I was moving. I don’t have the same problem with any other lens. I have the 24-70mm sigma and the 35 1.4gm and those don’t give me that issue.
Great video. I’d be curious to hear what you thought after looking at the differences in post, see if there’s any differences you see on a larger screen
Thanks for actually comparing the Sigma against the og G Master. Literally every other review out there only compared it with the mk2 trying to make the sigma look bad and it just seemed weird to me.
Your editing is extremely dark, is that 100% on purpose or do you maybe have your monitor brightness super high? I don’t hate the editing, it’s just that I’m a bit surprised by how dark it is. It looks a little like the highlights are the subjects sometimes.
I had this decision to make myself recently and decided to go with the GM mark 1 used from mpb. I mainly just chose it for the ergonomics of the Sony Vs sigma and there's no way I could justify even to myself the asking price for the GM2. I'm so glad to finally see a comparison video of all three 70-200 available on emount. Cheers for the shit one
@@forsaken8382there's probably 100+ videos on this channel alone featuring the GM1 and showing thousands of awesome photos so it can't be that bad. It's far cheaper than the Sigma when buying used. It's parfocal so will be significantly better for tracking moving subjects whilst using the zoom. According to Sony website it's fully compatible with the A9 III including 120fps Vs 15fps on the Sigma, making it more future proof and usable for sports. According to DXOMARK the GM2 is only 2 P-Mpix sharper than the GM1 (53 Vs 51) which isn't significant and is nothing a tiny adjustment in lightroom can't even out. You can easily remove the tripod collar, unlike the Sigma. The Sigma has a wired lens hood design that obscures part of the zoom ring, whereas the GM1 has one of the best lens hoods Sony has ever made. My point is there's plenty of reasons to buy the GM1 over the Sigma.
@@david9912gt3rs MPB are great I have spent thousands through them and had on one occasion my lens that I sent to trade in marked up a grade than what I thought it would be , so yeah they have been honest and reliable. They are also the cheapest by quite a bit.
@@forsaken8382 do you have either of the lenses ? Do you know how much I paid ? I paid £1200 for an excellent condition mark 1 I tried the sigma in a Wex store and did not like the ergonomics of it. In regards to image quality, well the lens has been serving professionals all around the world extremely well since its release so it's in no way a bad lens.
I have the 70-200 f2.8 G Alpha Mount (SAL70200GM). So noticeably slower auto focus and increased weight. I have to use an A Mount to E Mount adapter. BUT it still takes great pictures. And the cost is now like under $750 USD.
@@MikeyYuanYhave you decided? Looking between these two also. Leaning more towards the gm M1 mainly because I can get it brand new for the same price as the sigma.
I'd really wonder what you'd think about the Tamron 70-180 f2.8 in comparison, as it's even lighter than all of them and cheaper, though it possibly should have some trade-offs to consider.
Have you ever had a chance to test out the Tamron 35-150 f2-2.8? I would be curious, what is your opinion on that lens? Rocking a 16-35 GM and the 35-150 Tamron instead of the typical 3 lens combo 16-35 24-70 70-200 for example. I shot a lot of travel content, street photos, events, festivals (mainly video shooter). And I was considering ti get this Sigma 70-200 with the 24-70 lens or the Tamron 35-150, which I am currently testing.
I love my sigma 70-200 f2.8 DG OS - Canon. Its truly an amazing lens and its a bit heavy but i was able to hold it all day without a problem and i am skinny like a stick 🤣
The Sony MK1 sucked, and still sucks. The MK2 is the top of the line and perfect for anyone with the money or getting paid to be a pro. Everyone else, the Sigma will be perfectly fine!
I would say that for 95% of people there’s no reason to ever buy the mk2 over the Sigma
buy a used mkii over a new sigma imo
@@imreallydamntiredi’d still pick the sigma 70-200 vs a used gm ii, sorry but the image quality is up there with the gm ii, better OSS on the sigma as well since it’s a newer lens with better advanced technology (2021 vs 2023) and yes i’ve owned both, at 200mm as soon as you half way press the shutter the OSS on the sigma is so still, whereas with the sony i can still notice a bit of a jitter.
@@RCGJR_ Is the autofocus same fast? I would like to get 300 mm f2.8 (to be honest) but, I feel it can wait a few months more for the decision. I know, I know.. it's just 200mm, while you can put TC's on 70-200 GM II and still have better macro and better focal range but its double the price and idk if that is worth it, IF I STILL WANT TO SELL it just a 6-12 months later.
nope theres fatal downside like weight,the reverse focus and zoom, and lenshood design that eats the grip
True. Especially if you only shoot video then the Sony has even less advantage over the Sigma.
two ways to offend North Borders:
are you making a tik tok video?
is that a nikon camera?
Are you making Tik Tok videos with your Nikon bro?
Another one, “I shoot JPEG instead of RAW”
also drive a tesla
@@SonyDave75 "What is shutterspeed? I shoot auto mode"
11:44 first line on the notes lmaoooooo
Ayo, my fav Nikon TikTokker, bro that macro lense slaps.
nah bro, football lens hahaha
Bro woke up and decided to bully a lens hood (5:15)
9:55 That's some deep thoughts for a lens review;)
keep it up legend!
hi mike, you're like my biggest inspiration and i love your work and your videos. I just wanted to say that i personally prefer, when showing the images, when the image doesnt cover all of the screen. Just a little bit of blank space is enough, just like you did with the shot at 10:52, i think it enables us to see the picture in its entirety and not having to focus on just the center.
hope you see this man, love you
Just got the Sigma 70-200 last week. Awesome lens and picture quality.
Didnt see the mention that Sony put a Max of 15 shots a seccond when shooting continuous.
For shooting with surtain boddies probably the Sony lens wil be a better choice depending on the budget but recon that when someone has such a camera body they can affort the Sony lens
now,it get max 120FPS if you updata.
@@二子喵 no autofocus with it though so thats the trade off with the sigma 120 fps
to anyone watching this video, here are a few things he doesn’t mention:
* note those prices were in USD & not AUD. that’s cuz for some reason, the retail price of the sigma & GM2 here in Australia is almost the same (maybe $100 difference unless they’re running a sale/special).
* that’s why I went for the GM2 when I bought mine 2 weeks ago, cuz why pay for a 3rd party glass when a native glass is just the same price & I’d argue better overall.
* Sony also caps 3rd party glass to 15FPS I think. Not a deal breaker unless you have the A1 or A9 series.
* No disrespect to Sigma whatsoever (I have the 85 1.4 & absolutely love the quality), but as someone who owns the 14 GM, 35 GM & 70-200 GM2..the focusing speed & accuracy of all those compared to my 85 Sigma is night & day. You just can’t beat Sony on Sony. Those XD Linear Motors are to die for.
My 2 cents, if you’ve already got the money to pay for the Sigma 70-200, maybe just save up a couple of more months & then blindly go for the Sony 70-200 GM 2. You won’t regret it & you’ll be thanking yourself…so will your non-trigger arm.
I see the SONY 70-200mm F2.8 II at around AU $3199 and the SIGMA 70-200mm F2.8 DG DN for around $2499 (and as low as $1999 on DCXPERT). AU $700 is a HUGE difference, especially when you factor in how well the Sigma version has been reviewed.
I've been checking lens prices lately, it's simply not true that SONY GM2 price is close to Sigma
you are wrong, the real price difference is between 600 and 800 AU$. Besides that, Sigma also uses solenoid motors like Sony and Tamreon lenses. Four, to be exact. Still, it is much slower to autofocus than Sony 70-200 g ssm ii for some reason. It certainly does NOT pass the erratic subject tracking.
North Borders: I'm gonna make a video comparing these lenses.
Also North Borders: "What do you want me to say!?"
Which one should i buy sony 70-200 f2.8 mark I or sigma 70-200 f2,8?
16:30 the hat guy hit north borders with the classic pinch and roll 😂
Love your videos mate been watching since 2020 keep it up
This is exactly what I was looking for! Thanks.
2:50 my exact thoughts every time I'm walking around in public with my camera lol
I always have issues with my 70-200 gm ii
I don’t use a tripod and when I take photos and zoom in later they’re never sharp, always a little out of focus or just blurry like I was moving. I don’t have the same problem with any other lens. I have the 24-70mm sigma and the 35 1.4gm and those don’t give me that issue.
Might be a bad copy. I have no such issues with my 70-200 GM2
I have the gmii too, and i have no issues either. Its like the god of lenses for me
Great video. I’d be curious to hear what you thought after looking at the differences in post, see if there’s any differences you see on a larger screen
Thanks for actually comparing the Sigma against the og G Master. Literally every other review out there only compared it with the mk2 trying to make the sigma look bad and it just seemed weird to me.
Your editing is extremely dark, is that 100% on purpose or do you maybe have your monitor brightness super high? I don’t hate the editing, it’s just that I’m a bit surprised by how dark it is. It looks a little like the highlights are the subjects sometimes.
Hes been doing this for years. Its on purpose. Its his style.
i like the editing but at the same time I would tweak the left corner of the RGB curve a little up to make dark not so dark
I think north just loves the colour blue, bro has it in all edits
I had this decision to make myself recently and decided to go with the GM mark 1 used from mpb.
I mainly just chose it for the ergonomics of the Sony Vs sigma and there's no way I could justify even to myself the asking price for the GM2.
I'm so glad to finally see a comparison video of all three 70-200 available on emount.
Cheers for the shit one
Is MPB good, was thinking of buying a few lenses from it, but wasn't sure!
how could u justify gm m1? it is worse aniway then sigma exept maiby being native . Bad quality compared mark 2 and sigma...
@@forsaken8382there's probably 100+ videos on this channel alone featuring the GM1 and showing thousands of awesome photos so it can't be that bad. It's far cheaper than the Sigma when buying used. It's parfocal so will be significantly better for tracking moving subjects whilst using the zoom. According to Sony website it's fully compatible with the A9 III including 120fps Vs 15fps on the Sigma, making it more future proof and usable for sports. According to DXOMARK the GM2 is only 2 P-Mpix sharper than the GM1 (53 Vs 51) which isn't significant and is nothing a tiny adjustment in lightroom can't even out. You can easily remove the tripod collar, unlike the Sigma. The Sigma has a wired lens hood design that obscures part of the zoom ring, whereas the GM1 has one of the best lens hoods Sony has ever made. My point is there's plenty of reasons to buy the GM1 over the Sigma.
@@david9912gt3rs MPB are great I have spent thousands through them and had on one occasion my lens that I sent to trade in marked up a grade than what I thought it would be , so yeah they have been honest and reliable. They are also the cheapest by quite a bit.
@@forsaken8382 do you have either of the lenses ? Do you know how much I paid ?
I paid £1200 for an excellent condition mark 1
I tried the sigma in a Wex store and did not like the ergonomics of it.
In regards to image quality, well the lens has been serving professionals all around the world extremely well since its release so it's in no way a bad lens.
Bro exactly what I needed to decide
3:25
Mike: Let me take a photo of a Tesla so i can photoshop it out...
I love this type of video, espically in melboune, best aus city for street
Great video! I wish I had one of these lenses
First time I run in to your channel bro as I honestly love how vocal you are about the things that piss you off lmao 🙏🏼😂
I have the 70-200 f2.8 G Alpha Mount (SAL70200GM). So noticeably slower auto focus and increased weight. I have to use an A Mount to E Mount adapter. BUT it still takes great pictures. And the cost is now like under $750 USD.
OMG OMG i love your tiktoks northborders!
thx dude i got new something to learn today
love your tiktoks dude
i just bought this for filming hunts and wild life photography. very much a beginner so hopefully can get high quality stuff from 20 yards lol
I was waiting for these comparison!
Let’s goo it’s the best way to start my morning a North Borders video @bmxgrinder
needed this this morning
sigma 70-200 or g master mark 1 ?
Have you decided? Same delima.
@@MikeyYuanYhave you decided? Looking between these two also. Leaning more towards the gm M1 mainly because I can get it brand new for the same price as the sigma.
So guys, what did you decide ? Help a poor struggling French photographer 😅😂
sigma 70-200 without a doubt the autofocus speed and picture quality is so much better
Do you have tickets to the Australian GP? Would be cool if you could experiment with these lenses shooting the cars from a distance.
i just now realized, Mike must have an insanely buff back carrying those 3 lenses in his camera bag
Lmfao that discount code. what a legend 😂❤🔥
I'd really wonder what you'd think about the Tamron 70-180 f2.8 in comparison, as it's even lighter than all of them and cheaper, though it possibly should have some trade-offs to consider.
Have you ever had a chance to test out the Tamron 35-150 f2-2.8? I would be curious, what is your opinion on that lens? Rocking a 16-35 GM and the 35-150 Tamron instead of the typical 3 lens combo 16-35 24-70 70-200 for example. I shot a lot of travel content, street photos, events, festivals (mainly video shooter). And I was considering ti get this Sigma 70-200 with the 24-70 lens or the Tamron 35-150, which I am currently testing.
Ngl I do street photography and i wish the sigma was out sooner. I prefer the black. More discrete
Even though I’m a canon shooter, that was very interesting mate 👌
12:54 had to crop out that tezla 🤣
Wow! These horizontal tik toks are so cool!!
any body know hat hes got on that viewfinder and where to get it?
Excuse me, is this compatible with the Sony x2 teleconverter?
no, but there are rumors that sigma teleconverter will coming soon.
Your funny AF, just jumped on your video. definitely a like, and subscribe.
where to buy eyecup?
I just got mine a couple days ago, I love my sigma! 🫶🏼
What setting did u use like metering and focus point thank u
I love my sigma 70-200 f2.8 DG OS - Canon. Its truly an amazing lens and its a bit heavy but i was able to hold it all day without a problem and i am skinny like a stick 🤣
sooo are u a tiktoker or not?
No hes not
Your coupon code is the reason I subscribed.
For me I am crossed between the sigma, and the Sony 70-200 f4 macro
Whats this filmed on?
iPhone 15 Pro Max!
Did you used to do graffiti north border?.
was not expecting the brain food about Sonder to be something I needed to here
The Sony has higher keeper rate on autofocus with high-speed burst. But you can only take advantage of that if you own Sony’s high-end bodies.
Also important to note, A9 and A1 users will not get the full 20/30/120FPS capabilities with the Sigma 70-200 if that’s important
A month ago, your statement was valid, but now it's not. the Sigma 70-200 updata firmware to get full 120FPS.
I might need to stop watching your vids, my bank account can’t take it 😂 that sigma is crisp
how much is it?😢
To be honest. It may sound like our guy is payed by Sigma but MAN, I have sigma art lenses and they are so sharp and the build quality is amazing.
You had me at Fuk Tesla! Why is video show more light than the pictures?
The discount Tesla code bruh! Hahahahaha I’m dying
The Sony MK1 sucked, and still sucks. The MK2 is the top of the line and perfect for anyone with the money or getting paid to be a pro. Everyone else, the Sigma will be perfectly fine!
Not first. Love your videos!!
bro, will this be on tiktok 😜
Mike is my favorite Tik Toker
yo travy is back aswell more travis videso hopefully POVs
You forgot to wish us a sh*t one in your intro. Now im seriously gonna have a sh*t day.
16:00 Darth Vader?
Cool video.
I prefer to shoot in jpg with my Nikon to create TikTok videos from the images
I also like bananas
This was a really long TikTok video, weird.... haha just kidding nice vid bruv
Good to hear you refuse TikTok!
I absolutely hate the zoom ring. Returned after my first use
SO GOOOOOOOOOOOOOD
Do you broke up with Feay?
I love your tiktoks bro 😂 (joking and I also love the discount code NGL)
i have the gm 2 and that lens dont take horrible dark ass pictures like that lol....something isnt right lol
Premium long-form tiktok mate.
And where's the test?
So cool
Has Haydens journey turning christian influenced you?
you're my favourite tiktoker!
A tiktok - Nikon Photographer...
Started off with “what the fuck is up” and then counted to 3 that’s all I need to skip this video
❤❤❤❤🔥🔥🔥 cool
you should get a fuck tik tok shirt and wear that when your doing POV
but you look like a tiktoker.... naaa just kidding I'm here Since 2018
The Tiktok chirps were incredible lmao
When is the video of the ugliest cars coming😂
North Borders, having a shit one on tiktok from now on
Tik Toker MIKE xD
Oof.... 🔥🔥🔥contents as always
First? Oh damn, what's good!
Not first!
No one asked
Shut up
You shut up
tiktokerrr xDDD
tik toker
such a tiktoker ngl
what a tiktoker, lmao