340 SIX PACK CHALLENGER. Not a Happy Ending This Time !!!
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- Опубліковано 9 тра 2024
- Mopar maladies today at Kiwi's, this gorgeous T/A has an issue that has us all stumped @UncleTonysGarage included !
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I was about to do the Python's, 'How about a sudden ending?" :)
All good mate, be good to see what the problem was
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Well, this explains a lot!
Absolutely Beautiful T/A! The color is killer.
I agree Beautiful color!, I bet it's B3 Ice Blue....if it were my choice I would have picked B7 Jamaica Blue Metallic!
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What an iconic body style! I'm glad that Chrysler chose it to inspire the retro Challenger a couple of yrs back. Imitation is the greatest form of flattery!😎
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Wow, I’m in love 😍😂👏👏👏! What a nice car! You said it accurately when you said, “I’d be proud to have done this one.” Same here brother
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This is so godamn cool, you dont see these cars anywhere except magazines
I get some horror stories through here so it's nice to get a treat like this😎😁👍
Thank you Kiwi for being a great steward and keeping these cars on the road.
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@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 I watched the video. It's been mentioned by others, it's probably a burnt valve or valve guide.
Kiwi, when I learned to drive , my grandfather would poke me with his walking stick if he saw me driving with my foot on the clutch pedal. He called it riding the clutch and said it was hard on the throwout bearing. Machine operators and truck drivers are generally instructed to avoid the practice. Just a little wisdom I learned very early in my driving career. I appreciate you once again for taking us along on another stunning ride. That car was concourse.🙂🐏
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I get called out for that quite regularly, its a habit i developed while I was motor racing. Always being ready for the unexpected. When I'm familiar with a car I relax a bit more and rest the left foot
I was thinking the same thing about resting the left foot on the clutch pedal. 🙂
My foot is barely touching the pedal, not resting 😬
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160
My heel is resting on the floor not the pedal when I do this.
At 5 minutes in this thing looks like it might have been built by Graveyard Cars. Their work is absolutely amazing.
It wasn't, a guy here in Tennessee built it
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 The level of detail put into that car is absolutely amazing.
Whenever GUC sent a car into "the mud room" I get ptsd. And they don't have a hammer and dolly room or a lead room.
graveyard cars is garbage
@@johndillinger8482 I haven't seen their working person so I can't really judge. But I can judge his TV persona....... if anyone compares me to him, well, we can't be friends I'm afraid !
Such a beautiful car. Well done, guys, getting it back on the road.
This coolant leak is a common problem. Both of my 5.9 Magnums need the front cover R&Red.
Looking forward to a second part. Really good presentation, thank you for continuing to educate and share.👍
Me too ! I want to know what has happened to make that Cyl go away
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Warms my heart to know that these reference restorations still exist
This is just positive and refreshing to see. Love it
That is one great restore job! That shop is professional Damn it's nice!
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Little nicer than that red mystang just saw on UTG. Cant wait to see the cretique on that.
A lot nicer!!
Beautiful restoration just needs a little love. They are a lot like the 302 Chevy, not much down low but do well above 5k RPM. Today's fuel and sitting in the garage for months has to be a nightmare to keep in tune. Definitely not your usual flipper car content that makes me cringe 😂 👍
An absolute beauty. Kiwi, as always a pleasure to watch. Keep on sending buddy.
Thanks man and thanks for watching!!
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Sending what?
What a amazing car and restoration! It looks brand 1970s new. It made me fell like I went back in a time capsule.
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Good advice about cooling system maintenance. Classic cars hardly get driven a lot of miles so a timed schedule is key.
Wow Kiwi, what a great example of a 340 Six Pack Challenger. It sure was done very well and i'm sure you will get the valves adjusted right and get her running like she should be.
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That Challenger is very nice wherever he had that Restoration done it was done right. That car is better then it was when it left the factory. That's the kind of work Graveyard carz do and it's not cheap to do but it's done right ad that's what you gotta love about that car and it being a T/A Challenger it was worth doing.
Another awesome beautiful car 🚗
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Beautiful! That is the same color on my '71 R/T383 (clone). Mine looks great going down the road. But, it is nowhere near that nice. That is a beautiful car. Thanks for sharing Kiwi!
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One of the big bonuses of your job is to drive these majestic vehicles after working on them. 👍👍👍👍👍👍👍
Hey its a dirty job but someone's gotta do it right😁😉
@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 it's great how they trust you with their babies 👍
Very nice Car and build for sure .....mate!
Cheers mate!!
The way cars should be ! No BS . Good vid kiwi 😎
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Beautiful restoration!👍😎
Hello Kiwi! Good day to you! Admire your work, you do a fine job, quite meticulous. Your attention to detail is very commendable. You picked right up on the fact that it wasn't right, rather lame for what it is. People get their moneys worth dealing with you, not surprised you stay busy.
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The aluminum timing cover is the weak spot in small block Mopar. It can leak where it meats the block in which case the water can end up inside with the oil. Or it can leak out onto the ground. It can leak where the water pump bolts on at the front and then it is squirting out onto the ground. I have had both.
Wow, that car is really beautiful! I'm amazed if it's not a trailer queen?
Coolant gone bad! Who'd have thunk....
That sure is a nice car. Brings back a lot of memories. Somebody did a lot of work. A lot of money just need some fine tuning and it'll be all right. Good stuff guys!.👍👍🙂🇨🇦
Needs more than fine tuning sadly, something is well wrong with number one cylinder
That's not good for sure
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After all of the "flipper" cars that have been in your shop, it's good to see one that was done correctly! and this particular car also. I love those old Mopars. I have all of my life. My dad had all types of cars, Oldsmobile's, Buicks, Cadillac's, ford, Chevy's, Chrysler, and Dodge. oops, I almost forgot the DeSoto! The Chrysler is the one that bit me. it had a 413 in it. and it was a BEAST. Quite a few of Dads cars would go 120 MPH. But the New Yorker would go way past 120! And it would lay 2 black marks part way through 2nd gear, then continue smoking one tire for a full 1 mile. we turned around and came back just to be sure. And the black mark on the road told the truth. a full 1 mile long burn out. Personally, I have never owned a Chrysler. only Dodge (mostly), Plymouth's, And 1 Jeep. I owned 1 Ford, and 2 Chevy's. The Chevy's were ok, but the Ford was the biggest dog I have ever driven. There was something majorly wrong with it. And it was not anything normal. I will stick to Mopars. they have always performed well for me.
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The T/A and the AAR Cudas were a lot of fun. They get scary on top end though as they don't stop pulling... Makes the pucker hold onto the seat.
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Beautiful car 👍
Restoring any car to that kind of factory origonal condition including the marks, is a very difficult task. There are volumes of books ( very expensive and hard to get) that document just the factory marks and placement. I think that this car on apppearance is a very good representation.
I consider you lucky to be able to drive a beauty like that.
Never heard a T/A or a AAR from the inside before. Cool exhaust note for sure
Gorgeous😍
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Average time to change coolant: 1.5-2.0 hours, dealership labor in my area: $150 an hour. Discount coolant: $15-$25 a gallon, all depends on whether it's asian, European, American.. green, blue, red, pink, orange, gold or green. DIY negates the labor cost but making sure you do it properly is a big deal. When I recommend a coolant flush, I tell people to look for specials or expect around $200. PS: I miss the 1970s/80s prices, they ran more with average blue collar wages, not white collar entrepreneur incomes.
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My first car was a 1970 Challenger, at age 16, in 1975. My parents financed it, I made the payments. It was around $2000. Mine was just a base model, dark green with a white vinyl top, black interior, 318 2 barrel, single exhaust, column shifted 727, had 14" Torq Thrust style gray 5 spoke wheels and Goodyear PolyGlas GT tires. Quite a car for a 16 year old. I broke the seal between the timing cover and block replacing the water pump, and had to take it all apart and reinstall everything. I discovered the coolant passages in the timing cover were badly corroded, and decided to replace the cover. Unfortunately I did not notice the plastic cam chain sprocket. Over the next few years I had several core plugs fail. Finally, all the teeth sheared off that plastic cam sprocket and destroyed the engine. Looking back I wished I had just replaced the engine, but instead, I sold the car and bought a '72 Rally Nova.
That is an absolutely gorgeous car. I love the painted undercarriage. I have never been a fan of undercoating. Hopefully the problems aren't that serious.
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That cut short missed out on the donuts in the carpark
😁🇬🇸🤘
Shockingly clean restoration!!! Ill be watching Part 2 of this AAR video due to the poor running of the car
You're good people Kiwi, but be careful who you associate with! 😂😂😂 I live a few hours east of y'all and might have to come by and give Tony a hard time one day. Lol.
Keep on friend. People need to be shown the things you present. Even the most basic things. So many want to dive in and buy parts and do this and do that, but they're not even capable of even maintenance tasks. I'm just glad there are still old school guys like you (and I'm old too lol) showing people good common sense stuff and that the right way to fix something is the only way to fix it.
Oops, still a great car and video. Love the 340. Thanks Kiwi.
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Good reminder: color doesn't mean much, and we all need coolant testers - they're cheap enough.
And man, its nice to see this car again.
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any kiwi upload is a welcome surprise
Thanks man and thanks for watching!!
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Same with the antifreeze in heating systems. They say every 7 or ten years. Depends on the juice I'm guessing. So far I've never sold a change out. So I come back later and change the whole system.
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It's not a pentagram, it's a pentastar.
Just one observation: where the fuel line goes through cross-member - contact with cross member looks possible. When not showing or having car judged, a protector insert might be wise.
Wow, that car is in premium condition. I owned a few B body’s but for some reason never an E body. I love that car. Whoever restored it was good. Ripping down the road in it had to be fun. You are correct, something is holding the motor back, that thing should grab rubber in three out of the four gears, those 340’s were very fast bone stock right out of the dealers driveway. I should know, I have driven them. Hopefully you caught that issue in time. Unless the engine is worn and tired, the carbs will need cleaning and calibrating. Synchronizing the three carbs as I know, you know, have to be set to spec and then finely adjusted from there if needed. A full kick off idle with six barrels wide open should warm a person’s blood as he scares himself a little if the carbs are fresh and set up right. Then wind out that little 340 and it should surprise you with the power gain. In my distant racing days, the 340’s ruled our local drag strip. They beat just about anything thrown at them. I was running 400 big blocks, because they were dirt cheap at the time since my racing buddy came from family owned junk businesses. I would try and pull two or three at a time from 70’s Chrysler land yachts and in to my Satellite. I actually had to spend money on a great set of heads, besides a great cam to beat any of them. You had to have close to a race car to run with them. So… again, you are correct, something seems to be holding that 340 back.
Thanks man and thanks for watching!!
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During my tenure at a hot rod shop, Coolant leaks from neglected cooling systems was all too common, but southern vehicles were much more likely to be full of rust and corrosion. When you don't have "hard water season" there is less motivation to use proper antifreeze/coolant.
Probably $30-40 is damn cheap insurance against filling your system with corrosion.
Gees for a minute I thought my partner had turned off the Internet... Because there was no outcome to the mystery... Thought it sounded odd... When you first gave it a tickel on the exciter pedal.. Can't wait to hear what you come up with... ( not can timing?)🤔 am hanging on the eage of my seat now🤣
The real McCoy….you said it …..👍🏻
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Beautiful car..but i am hearing a ticking sound..is that exhaust or lifter..either way I love the car
Rock on KiWi 👊🏼⛽️
Back in the 70's I was running a work shop in NZ and one of the customers had been O/S working ,driving heavy equipment .He bought back a 340T/A .I got to 'road test ' it quite often for the WOF etc. It had a flat spot in the carbs and try as i might I couldn't get rid of it. But a couple of years ago I was watching Nicks Garage and he mentioned that All of the 6pack and 6Bbl set ups stumbled... Oh well..😁
When you drove out at the beginning of your road test it sounded really crook, not on all eight. When they run right ,they scream. I can recall changing down from 4th to Second and booting it hard prevented the stumble.🤣
Brilliant!
Wow what a beautiful example, attention to detail x 10! Thanks for the tip on coolant certainly wouldn't have realized life expectancy of just 12 - 24 months? Hmm ...l 😒
I had a friend in HS in '74 who had pulled a 340 sixpack out of a wrecked car and installed it in a '67 dart. It was one of the fastest cars in town....they were running cars. But I beat him with my '70 Mustang Mach I with a slightly modified 351 Cleveland 4v
Valve lash,spring tension, articulation to tolerably center valve,pushrod length. Working correctly at desired time. It's the headache that makes porting a head worth doing.
If it still weak,seats,how thick head gasket. Cam wonders. Exhaust restrictions.
I seen you run Marge, it ain't in your right foot is it?
Be sure and tune in next week. ;) I am looking forward to the conclusion. Hope it's not too bad.
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AWESOME....MOPAR 4 EVER.
did the owner decide what they wanted to do with the rusted Buick ?
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I am curious about that unused bracket on the left rear frame rail. What was it used for?
I was on the edge of my seat watching the test drive, especially as we got close to the end, not knowing exactly where you were going with the not a happy ending comment. I can relax now, nothing catastrophic.
lol no not catastrophic but a 7 Cyl T/A is not good !!
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ust letting you know that Chrysler used to use Bars Leak from the factory in every new car so we had pleanty of freeze plugs that rotted our when the Bars Leak turned corrosive . I hated the one in the back of the block because you had to drop the transmission to replace it .
one of these came to town .guy got out of the Navy bought it from California .I'm sure it was new saw it around town a few times. in 72 i was pumping gas at the Texaco. a repo guy pulled it into the station with a tow bar .that car was beat 4 different size tires odd wheels. he checked the tires and headed to California pretty sad.
There back in the late 80's was a similar "local" mechanical specification 340/4 speed manual VG Valiant couple, admittedly the Mopar diff decided it didn't want to be "LSD" at Meremere...
My old neighbor owned a mostly mopar junkyard and he collected mopars. He had a plum crazy T/A that he bought from an insurance company in 1977. The car got stolen and tge 340 and 727 got stolen. He put a 440 4bbl in it, and his sons and he drove it for years until he got sick with lymes disease. I could’ve bought that car for 9 grand in 1998, and as a 19 year old kid with 2 Chevelle’s couldn’t afford another loan. I still kick myself in the ass for that. He ended up finding the original trans am block and heads in another local junkyard. It’d been there since the 80’s. He had an original 6 pack and all the carbs, exhaust manifolds and a stroker kit for the motor. Wish I would’ve bought that car. He died and the family was in a feud and tge car disappeared. One brother says it was sold, the other says it was stolen.
A hundred thou over tightened? Wheeeeew! How is that one even possible!?!?
Beginnings of water spots apparantly left out in the rain, I would be afraid of scratching it...😮
The video ended abruptly, seems like there's another few minutes of info left to tell?
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Have you tried or seen Evans Waterless coolant ,research says 1 to 4 years before replacement.
Gotta check the acidity of it as well or it will start etching and eating away at the metal. Please use distilled water.
What? Distilled water in the coolant? That's insane! Distilled water is for the battery...
Distilled water is something I use a lot in cooling systems !!
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@@johnbriggs3916 Its what I was taught in class this past semester to keep mineral deposits from forming. Which can easily lead to excessive wear or clogs.
Back in the early 90's I used tap water. Now I wonder if that helped kill the water pump on my 82 Toyota Celica.
De-ionized water was also mentioned as alternative to distilled.
Hey Kiwi,
Tim here, all i hear is the ticking of a noisy lifter, or there's an exhuaust manifold leak, OR it gets deeper.... hope u can tune it out.....DONT like the ticking, either exhaust leak, or a dead lifter......just sayin, i hear it... and remember, i'm TOTALLY old school, there's NOT a computer controllin my ride (well my corolla daily) but u know what i mean....hope the tick is jus exhaust, and not deeper, but BOY thats a F'n cool car, i personally LOVE IT!!....TY sir for sharin with us!!!...
That ticking is actually that compression bleeding out
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@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 yea, thats a mystery, and a bummer, needs the heads re done, i suspect cracked exh valve......had it on my Poncho years ago......new guides, new valves, and my motor was back to life.....but it took a while, and my wallet made it slower...haha....GLAD u sent the link..THANKS Kiwi!!!.....PEACE my brother
Love the color. Had a '71 Charger R/T many years ago in the same shade (gunmetal metallic I think it was called) with black R/T stripes and hood, and black vinyl top. Great looking car. Not great for a daily driver, though, which is why I ended up having to get rid of it. Alas.
I've got a 74 Charger and if I weren't trying to preserve it I'd daily it.
@@LongIslandMopars My very first car was a '74 Charger, and with a 318 I happily drove it everywhere -- love the third gen body style. The R/T's 440 was built and required premium gas plus a can of octane boost to be happy, and with the 4.10 rear it typically saw 10 to 12 mpg... Couldn't afford to drive it!
@@briane.5656 Nice. That was definitely a fun car you had. Mine is a bone stock 318 2bbl with highway gearing. It'll cruise all day and return about 16-17 mpg. My Coronet is a 273 that I rebuilt with an Isky cam but is otherwise bone stock. It only gets about 12 mpg moving that brick through the air and is not fast by any means.
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@@kiwiclassicsandcustoms9160 it happens. No worries Kiwi.
Hey Kiwi,
Three things that I noticed while you were doing your quick inspection. Ok, in order of least to most important to most.
3 - The rear wheel wells are are missing the seam sealer between the inner and outer wells.
2- also rear wheel wells and the trunk pan behind them are missing the heavy undercoating/rock guard.
1 - Most importantly!!!
The front fenders are missing the same undercoating/rock guard.
Black paint is not correct and God forbid you kick up a rock with the front wheels and hits the top of the fenders. It will leave a nice big dimple in the top!!!
You might mention the correct disposal of hazardous waste.
You mean the old coolant?
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Yes
I change my antifreeze every two years with pure antifreeze and never had issue with radiators but water pumps will wear out in two to three hundred thousand miles.
The engine was ticking quite a lot. Also is a shifter called a changer where you are from?
Gear lever but not gear changer😎
Years ago i worked for a high dollar 😳 mopar restoration shop.
Doing $ 60-100k restorations that looked great but were crap under the paint. Fake core support data plates, rebodied cars, etc.
"Theyre not going to drive it anyway."...
Strain at a knat and swallow a camel.
I finally had to go. SMH.
Always check G.G.'s data.
Remind s me of the one I had back then )
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A borescope, and you can look through under a valve cover, and examine the camshaft lobes.
The exhaust note reminds me of the Vanishing Point.
Close to the same car. Though that one was probably on all 8 cylinders
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Easy to see where all the NZ Chargers got the chassis and bits and bobs from.
The DNA is easy to see👍
The six pack looks cool. I'd never swap it out of this car.......but it's a lousy set up vs single 4150 Holley and an RPM air gap. If it feels 'weak" there is no big surprise there for me. A hot built 340 can be a great engine. Yet, in a car this good, collectable and historically accurate a little less power is an absolutely acceptable trade off I'd just live with. If I couldn't live with the stock power? A roller cam and some head porting could work wonders on the effort to bring extra power while retaining the six pack and historically accurate appearance. That'd be my choice in bringing some extra power to this one. A lot of extra power could be found with a stroked set up for extra displacement. Again you could retain the stock appearance though I might be inclined to pull the original #s matching engine and put it on a stand in the garage if I was gonna go that far for more power. God forbid you blow it up catastrophically while getting enthusiastic with a 100-200 extra Horse power. Far better to risk "smoking" a less valuable engine.
Nice car ! Maybe the gas is as old as the antifreeze ! Might need 'clear gas'
.. (non-ethanol gas ).
Like... romannumeral say's.. check plugs...
You probably already checked 'vacume' and possible dist vacume advance ...
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Glycol degrades into glycolic acid over time and depletes the corrosion inhibitors. Coolant test strips are cheap and readily available which means you test for when it needs changed instead of blindly doing it every 2-3 years.
Pentastar....pentagram is a devilish thing...
lol yes!!👍
I always enjoy a happy ending, I'm disappointed that I don't get a happy ending.
We shall survive.
I'll get her running right!!
I am pretty sure head gasket blew on the valley side be curious to find out
I have seen coolant sit for so long the water in the engine evaporated and coolant does not evaporate so it turns into a jelly like substance and if it sits long enough with nothing to keep it wet it hardens up and plugs the ports. Most of it is done in the intake and the heads and it has to be chiseled out with a screwdriver and then you gotta run water and heat it up and drain it a few times just to remove all the hardened jelly that is stuck in the engine block.
I know a guy who had the last ta Challenger ever made 340 4 spd. It was the last one ever made and he did a full rotisserie on it that's what he does for a living he restores Chryslers
A Gem of blue! How hot was it?
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Modern coolants last much longer. My OEM recommends 5 years .I I check it's charge . 5 volts DC or more it needs changing.
Stunning, Challenger T/A! Kiwi, what do you estimate the value to be?
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well into 6 figures
Cliffhanger! You've gotta tell us what's going on!
I will as soon as I know bud!!
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Iam picking up a high speed ticking , like lifter noise on the audio??
Surprised to see on a car that clean underneath you have the lift arms directly on a painted surface without some rubber or a rag or something.
I have pads for those cars but this one's been on few lifts
I’m not a mopar guy but that’s a nice car
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