MLS vs. Premier League Goalkeeper Analysis 🤔
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- Опубліковано 21 вер 2024
- MLS vs. Premier League Goalkeeper Battle | Who Won? 🤔 You Decide! | AGRESSIVE VS. COMPOSED
What's up guys. So, this is a technical breakdown of a very similar play. One of which is from Édouard Mendy of Chelsea FC, and the other by myself. I believe it really highlights the glaring differences in how Premier league goalkeepers, and MLS goalkeepers, react to "perceived" 1 vs 1 scenarios.
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Did this title annoy anyone else? First of all, have you ever played in the MLS? Cause all of these clips seem to be from the USL. Secondly it comes off as pretty arrogant to make it look like you actually beat out an EPL keeper in some sort on contest. Because if you ask me who won I'm gonna say the goalkeeper who starts in the EPL because he's in the freaking EPL. Also, it seems you are completely just ignoring the skill difference between EPL and USL strikers. Not saying USL players are bad or anything but the difference in skill is huge between the two.
If you pause at 0:13 seconds your near post is wide open and I have a hard time believing an EPL level striker wouldn't easily tuck that away 9/10. I think you really just got bailed out by the striker making the completely wrong choice of shooting across your body. Which I get is your point of being patient forcing the striker to make the right decision. But I think it's a huge overlook that guys at the top top level are much more likely to make that right decision than someone at the USL level.
No sir, however, I’ve been to preseason with the Columbus crew, and have trained with the San Jose Earthquakes, FC Cincinnati, St. Pauli, and Swansea City. I’ve also played with, and against numerous EPL players (Joe Cole, Tammy Abraham, ect).
Additionally, the two players involved in the clip are both active MLS players (Jared Stroud and Tom Barlow), with the remaining 2/3 of the squad in that game also on MLS deals. I also understand the confusion, the title and thumbnail are very clickbait-ey. I’m still a young channel and am learning as I go.
I’m sorry you feel this was arrogant, as I explained in the video this was more an educational breakdown trying to compare very similar plays where two different actions were taken by two different types of goalkeepers (American/MLS style vs English/EPL style). The result of those actions led to two very different outcomes, one where I was successful and Mendy wasn’t.
Im not here to argue wether I’m better than a premier league keeper, being a young American making his own unique path, I’ll leave that up to the managers that pay us. But I will mention the fact that I’m 2/2 in shut outs against West Ham United and Swansea in international friendlies. I’m not sure if I would have saved that breakaway from Bamford, yet I definitely had/have the impression that there is something to be learned from both plays and that was the entire point of dropping this video. Hope that clarifies, all the best.
@@AmericanProfessional1 I just think you shouldn't be misleading even in titles / thumbnails especially when the vast majority of your success so far has been reacting to someone else calling out Modern Goalkeeping for doing a similar thing. Not saying you are just like Mike cause you have actually singed pro but something to think about.
Also, friendlies really aren't a place to gauge someones level. The intensity and pressure just doesn't compare to actual league games. 2/2 shutouts in those games is cool but conceding 11 goals in 6 games in the USL while having one of the stronger defenses in the league gives a much more accurate impression.
I agree premier league keepers do come out more aggressively like McCarthy vs Arsenal and like Allison against Leicester but in general they come out quite often
Glad I’m not the only one who noticed the trend. Appreciate the comment my friend.
I'm not even a goalkeeper but I still love watching your vids
That’s awesome. I’ve very glad to hear that. Might try breaking into some non-gker content soon to see how people take it. Appreciate the feedback.
Why choose the goalkeeper who hasn't even played a full season in the Premier league yet. I think this guy has only three professional seasons to his name in general.
Only because I happened to notice how similar the play was to my own. Also, after some discussion, I’d alter my original assessment and argue that his aggressive nature is more a result of his Senegalese and French background rather than Prem experience. Thanks for your take, hope that helps clarify my position.
@@AmericanProfessional1 Thank you for your answer man, idk if its common for Senegalese goalkeepers 😂😂 but surely you must be right about the fact he wasn't taught properly how to deal with those situations. I think he's never been to an academy either, he has a rather interesting story, but do correct me if I'm wrong
PS: Mendy is currently 29 and had 6 professional seasons. Dunno if that's worth mentioning
I don’t even know if it’s an “incorrect” ideology. As I stated in the video, often times, the best option is to come off your line quick. However, in this specific situation it wasn’t for Mendy. That’s good info to know, I wasn’t aware. All the best my friend.
Interesting to hear what you think. Personally I like to be quiet aggressive in one on ones and get in the strikers face.
I definitely don’t think it’s wrong to be aggressive, infact it’s the only option that leads to a save sometimes. I just believe it’s relied on as the default too often in the EPL when just a tad more patience might be the better route to take. Thanks for the comment. Always appreciate an opportunity to discuss differing opinions.
I guess the EPL goalkeepers have the fear of relegation that messes up with their minds and they end up being much more active than actually needed. but without the pressure of relegation MLS goalkeepers keep their cool and end up only doing necessary things needed to do. but also it may be the other way round since EPL is more competitive and there are much stronger teams they may have to not rely on their teammates but in MLS there are not many of MLS team that is at the level of EPL teams (sorry for bad grammar)
No worries, I go the jist of what you said. An interesting take from you. I won’t disagree as I think the level of play and league does have a lot to do with how goalkeepers play, however, I would point out that despite the lack of promotion/relegation in the us that competition for goalkeepers in the MLS is exceedingly tough. We are known for producing high level goalkeepers and just because you’re starting for a top flight team doesn’t mean there is no pressure to perform day in and day out. All the best my friend, thanks for the comment.
Kepa watching this taking notes
Maybe one day my friend. All the best.
Love it! Can’t wait for more of these types of breakdowns!
Glad you enjoyed. Will likely start a series with these type of vids in the coming weeks. Make sure to subscribe and stay tuned. Thanks for the support my friend.
You’re welcome!
I don't think it is an EPL trend. I guess Manuel Neuers "Sweeper Keeper" style influence many other goalies in Europe.
I would agree with your statement. Aggressiveness is definitely seen throughout Europe.
I think one of the best things that a goalkeeper can have is good decision making when in-game, as it takes the uneasiness and ambivalence out of any decision. I’ve really tried hard to work on committing to any decision I make instead of constantly second-guessing myself. Also, after reading some of the comments, while some of the criticism can be warranted, a lot of it shouldn’t be levied. First of all, Mendy (and other top level goalkeepers) are most likely under far more pressure to perform well, especially at a big club with the media hawking them constantly. This will, inexorably, make any mistake more prominent, and once everyone criticizes you, you begin to believe it. So, with more people constantly remarking about one bad error, you’ll begin to doubt yourself more and more. Ultimately, football is about a lot more than what’s on the field. (Edit: I should have prefaced this by saying the ability to deal with this is one of the factors that qualifies players to go professional in the first place.)
I think your take is pretty spot on. I’ve always said goalkeeping is 10% physical 90% mental. And that’s a good point, the pressure to win in the US is not near as high as in European leagues and the biggest factor for that, I think, is the lack of promotion/relegation. When you’re at a big club making $$$ in the US there really isn’t much else to shoot for besides a championship playoff win. Thanks for your perspective my friend. All the best.
I have noticed it too! The problem with this technique is that it needs loads of experience and good decision making. The only keeper who I think masters it is Neuer and maybe Ter Stegen and Alisson other than those a lot of keepers that are following this technique are getting caught off guard a lot
It is a very tough style of goalkeeping to be comfortable with I agree. Goalkeepers are required to not just save shots but they basically have to be master technicians at starting the attack and keeping possession with their normal responsibilities. Thanks for the comment my friend.
I’m a high school goalie and this will help a lot
Love your videos keep putting theses out
Of course. Will continue to push them out.
I feel that mendy did the right thing because the epl defenders are used to keepers comming out but he was in the wrong place to start of with.
Me in switzerland have to stand very high from the line like a sweeperkeeper i dont really like it .
Every country is different on that .
Loved ur vid , great save 💪 bye
Appreciate your take. Yes, I’ve taken note that its more a result of his NATIONALITY rather than the current league he plays in that is the reason for his aggressive stirs. I think it’s generally good to keep a high line as long as your able to adjust to the other team accordingly. Thanks for the comment mate.
In your clips the composure was such that I would use it in coaching....Doing the right thing at the right time. The examples I gave were horrible recently in EPL. Leno shocked me the most. Just my first take.....I believe, German, Dutch, Belgian, Danish (might be a regional thing) goalies tend to make better decisions that are not very flashy. Pfaff and Schumacher made me want to play goal, watching them in the 86 World Cup. Great decision makers who were typically conservative in those situations. Kahn as well....Neuer being a German kind of breaks the mold a bit IMO. German goalies weren’t usually good with their feet, till he came along and changed the game, almost literally.
I feel like Spanish and South/Latin American goalies are flashier, (thinking Allison and Rene Higuita, Jorge Campos).
I view Italian in the middle.....and English goalies as laughable 😜
You’re a funny guy and I really don’t think I have a single issue with anything you said. I’ generally agree with your perspective. All the best my guy, whatever goalkeepers are being coached by you are in good hands.
@@AmericanProfessional1 I’ll add that being American and seeing Keller and Freidel growing up, even Meola as a fell New Jerseyan....made me see that we could be the best goalkeepers in the world.
You started your video saying American keepers are more conservative.....I agree. We have always had good keepers, IMO, due to pure athleticism. Singular athleticism is different coach then coaching field players, what USA has struggled with.....but USA can take an athletic dude, like Tim Howard, and make them world class. Been that way my whole life, USA goalies not flashy, just skilled and get the job done.
I always liked Keller the best and feel like he did not get enough national team love....but with that group of goalies it was hard to separate yourself.
Hey man, who's the hardest attacker you ever came up against.
Tammy Abraham’s was the best young player, lighting quick, tall, and super soft touch. Joe Cole, Omar Bravo were the best teammates I’ve ever played with. Finally, Bojan Krkić was inhuman in our friendly match with Montreal last year. Rooney and Luciano Acosta for Dc United the year before are also worth mentioning.
Said MLS like he wasn’t playing in USL
It was a usl match, however, that specific game we were on a hot streak and 8 of 11 starters for NYRB were on MLS contracts and were either pulled down for this game against us or were already there getting minutes. Tom Barlow, the striker coming in on me had just scored for the first team not even a couple weeks prior. So hope that helps clarify, all the best mate.
@@AmericanProfessional1 You really should clarify in the video as you are claiming it is MLS when it is very clearly not MLS
What gloves do you wear? Those look like HPG but I’m not sure
You are correct my friend. HPG all the way.
@@AmericanProfessional1 that’s pretty cool because I’m a huge crew fan, plus Jon Busch sometimes works with the goalkeeper academy I go to (Richmond goalkeeping academy). The only thing is that they’re a bit too expensive for my game glove budget so I just go for sells, takedown reusch, or takedown adidas.
I like staying back, like you said, if a defender is able to apply pressure. Allison made a similar mistake recently when he almost collided with TAA against Leicester. Obviously, Neuer is the best decision maker in the history of the game in these situations. Leno hilariously got aggressive a couple weeks ago when he got his red card vs Wolves. In that situation there was NO NEED for him to be aggressive and come out of the box.
IMO the proclivity to be aggressive is more closely correlated to nationality then league. Saying EPL keepers are too aggressive lacks context of those specific keepers. Allison is aggressive, Mignolet was not :) Pickford is stupid, Joe Hart is conservative.....I just feel the league is irrelevant, but I like the idea you are promoting of waiting when a defender is still in play.
Technically you are correct, my clip was from a usl league match, however, Jared Stroud and Tom Barlow, the two players involved in this play, and nearly 2/3 of the squad in this game are active MLS players. Definitely stretching the title and thumbnail but hopefully I can be forgiven.
With that said, I think your perspective is actually more accurate than my own. Mendy likely didn’t have time to develop a more aggressive style as he’s very new to the Prem. So his style of play is absolutely more likely to be a result of his French and Senegalese background in goalkeeping.
Really appreciate your input, this is exactly the type of dialogue I was looking for. All the best my friend.
@@AmericanProfessional1 ah, I didn’t focus on where the players were playing now, I deleted that part of my comment, feel free to delete your response relative to that🤔.
Great vid , I agree when you make a decision you go for it
All about the confidence my friend. Thanks for the kind words.
Great video, and a very open debate. One thing I have found interesting is a video that the bundesliga released about Burki from Dortmund on a very similar topic.
Any chance you have the link to that vid? I’ve followed burki for a while and would love to check it out. Sounds interesting.
@@AmericanProfessional1 ua-cam.com/video/x60vCP7mcnA/v-deo.html
It's only a short video, but I found it interesting
No you’re absolutely right. Great video. I love how they pointed out his “lack of height” leads to some of his biggest strengths, quickness. Not many make that distinction these days. I’m of the opinion that taller goalkeepers are more on their way out as the ball continues to get smaller and better designed. It moves quicker and more unpredictably so quick feet and hands are must in the modern world. Thanks brother, look forward to more dialogue in the future.
The ending was a cute touch but I have to say Shia Labeouf has nothing on you
Omg, I didn’t realize it was you who made this comment lmao. You’re the best.
Mac what do you think is your main strengh as a gk , i think you once said being adaptable but idk ?
Yeah, adaptability and I’ve always had a really good natural sense of positioning I believe. I’ve always felt like I could pre determine where a striker is going to put the ball in certain situations. My feet/distribution is decent as well, not Ederson level by any means but working to get there everyday. Thanks for the comments brother.
i am just waiting for this guy to get a fifa card
Who's the best player you've played against in gk??
Łukasz Fabiański. Played against him in our friendly with Swansea and also had the opportunity to train with him for a week. Stellar bloke.
@@AmericanProfessional1 awesome
Dude i’m sorry but mendy went up against the best striker in Leeds who by the way plays in the best top league in the world and you came up against the a quite poor striker who totally fluffed his shot and tried to chip you instead of putting it in the open net on you’re right where you left it open. Don’t get me wrong I like ur style and videos and there is no doubt you are a very good gk but you still can’t compare those two situations
Hey my friend. And you have a right to your opinion brother. As someone who has trained with, played against, and is decent friends with quite a few top players in the premier league (Tammy Abraham’s, Dimitri Payet, Wayne Rooney, Joe Cole ect) I respectfully disagree. The striker who “flubbed” his shot is Tom Barlow, who also plays top flight football and is actually worth more monetarily than Bamford was at the same age (Bamford only recently began starting/getting regular playing time in the Prem). I think it’s unfortunate so many people are quick to condemn any kind of comparison between any league/play and the Prem. I think that is very closed minded and holds very little weight when it comes to actually determining a great goalkeeper. A fantastic example is Emi Martinez. He was largely written off as an older goalkeeper that was only valued as a back up. Now he’s arguably the most consistent and highly rated goalkeeper in the Prem in one year. Not only that, but Mendy himself was without a team and eating out of a soup kitchen at the same time I was playing against premier league teams (2016). As a result of this, I thought it was interesting to breakdown the clip that I did in order to show how my style of play does exactly that, causes high level strikers to “flub” their shots and give you as the goalkeeper a better chance. I’d encourage you to look further into the topic as I feel we actually have similar opinions, you’re just missing a few key aspects. All the best and hope that helps clarify.
You should make more technical breakdown
If this vid does well I’ll definitely start a series on the topic. Appreciate the input.
MLS gk will never come close to prem. Dont compare
Pretty sure my old teammate that played with me at Richmond kickers and in MLS for New England now plays for Arsenal. His name is Matt Turner.
I’ve also shut out every Premier league team I’ve ever faced.
So I’d have to disagree my friend, we’ve got some good ones.
You should do a video on how to approach multiple scenarios
That’s a great idea actually, will look into the idea. Thanks for the shout.
@@AmericanProfessional1 no thank you
I would love to have some feedback from such a world class keeper like you my man. You give me a Buffon type of vibe like you just seem so experienced at such a young age but if you ever have some down time (which I know you probably won't) Id love some feedback from a couple of training/game vids that I have posted on my channel. Keep up with the vids, they're amazing!
Appreciate the love my friend. Being compared to Buffon is very humbling, I can only hope to achieve a fraction of what he has. He’s a legend. And I’m actually in the process of starting a patreon that would allow you to do just that. Members can send me clips to analyze/react too, along with some other exclusive content/features. Let me know if that’s something you’d be interested in as I don’t have time to do private online/offline coaching anymore. Trying to figure out how to get everyone what they want in the most efficient way possible so feel free to let me know what you’d like from me. Thanks again for the dialogue and support.
@@AmericanProfessional1 that sounds amazing my man, thanks for the reply and keep working!!!
Dope. I will continue doing just that then.
Pls respond are the uhlsport radar control super grip gloves good I heard they are great
I tend to like ulsport gloves from my younger days. However, the only gloves I’ve worn for the past 6 years have been HPG. I’d encourage you to check them out as they are the best gloves I’ve ever worn. I’d also recommend checking out Alberto at @Arsgoalkeeping. He does reviews for every glove ever made I believe and is very informative. Hope that helps.
Thank u so much
In my opinion you had a bit of a easier situation you were closer to the goal and striker was further away mendy had to try to go for the ball because if he didn't he was getting chipped
Hey brother, I couldn’t actually include the full clip of Mendy (kept getting copyright strikes) but his starting position during the initial counter attack was actually 3 yards deeper than my own. (One of the reasons I encourage a really high starting position as it’s a lot easier to move back to your goal than it is to rush out of it from the mouth of the goal) so that might give you a different perspective. I’d encourage you to check out the highlights from that game if you’d like to fact check me on that. It was Chelsea vs Leeds about 5 weeks ago. Thanks for the comment and discussion.
@@AmericanProfessional1 well it would change my perspective then, tho I still preffer the aggressive style even tho I hadn't been thaught like that young but I adapted to it am successful at it the only thing stopping me from going to a higher level is that I am 171 at 16 so feels bad😞
Hi Macklin, what's the chances of trying out my latest challenge? sit on the 18 yard box line and do a sit up, throw the ball and hit the crossbar. Video is out now but would be great to see your attempts.
I’m always up for a good challenge, but I think that might be a bit easy for me. Shoot me a comment when you do a “50+ yard cross-bar side volley” challenge. That’s a lil more up my alley. Thanks for the comment my friend.
Macklin still give it a try and when you don't do it in 3 at least no body will know haha. It's harder than you think 👊🏻 ive got a few more challenges next month so i'll make sure to let you know. Thanks for replying
I can definitely understand where you are coming from by not trying to say you are better than Mendy but I do also have to agree that this video does come off as extremely arrogant. No hate to you at all though, love the content keep it up!
Everyone has a right to their own opinion my friend. However, with the comedy of errors going on in the Prem right now I don’t think it’s too far off to be critical of some of these “high level” goalkeepers. For example, Kepa is technically the most valuable goalkeeper in history, but I think most of us would agree that he probably doesn’t deserve to even be on a 2nd division club at this point with the numbers he put up his first season at Chelsea. Guys like Emi Martinez were wrote off for years and are now trailblazing a path for themselves by doing things differently. All about perspective I think, I believe I can back up my words, and have succeeded against EPL strikers in the past, so I’ll stick to my guns here. Thanks for the comment and support.
@@AmericanProfessional1 👍that’s awesome, i definitely think tho that they are there for a reason at the top level tho and the keepers here are not there because they are higher level. I’ll definitely be following your journey and wish you nothing but the best in your career i enjoy the content a lot
@@AmericanProfessional1 It's not the critical part that's rubbing people the wrong way, it's that you're acting like you're at the EPL level with no track record to back that up. You keep bringing up how you played these two friendlies against EPL clubs. But are you not going to mention the only reason you even played in those games is because you were the #3 option at North Carolina? You also continuously ignore that friendlies and actual league games aren't comparable in the slightest. If I was in your position I would be trying to figure out why you haven't been able to get many USL starts and why when playing you're having trouble keeping the ball out of the net. But instead you seem to be living in some fantasy that you could compete in the EPL or are going to get a US National Team call up. Can't take those big steps by just skipping all of the small ones.
This is the keeper we need in chelsea
You should come to ATL we need a new keep guzan is getting old
ATL is on the radar. I’m being very patient with negotiations this year. Need to make sure I set myself, and fiancé ,up for the future, especially with all the craziness going on with the pandemic. Excited to see what the future holds. Thanks for the comment friend.