2020 KPM200 Ride and Review
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- Опубліковано 21 чер 2020
- This is the 2020 Lifan KPM200 Ride and review. I'm doing a review of this and the X-Pect. I have another video with them combined, almost done (kinda), but need to merge it together.
I do not (for the moment) edit my video's. Take them how they are. I'm testing A: Doing this stuff B: My new COOAU camera C: I'm sure they'll get better with time, experience and some good editing software.
Thanks for watching.
#lifan #kpm #kpm200 #x-pect #kpmini
thanks for making this🔥
Just bought one last night. Should be getting it in a few days. Should be a fun learning bike.
Congratulations. It'll be fun and I think you'll be surprised at how well it runs and performs.
@@gregslair4278 where did you buy it? Most places I’ve seen online says sold out :(
@@ethanholland2965 Check cajunmaddog.com or find Alan Adams on FB and message him. He said he can get them.
Nice job on the videos 👍
Thanks 👍
Thank you for posting these reviews. Do you think the KPM is good for someone getting their first motorcycle?
Most definitely. Super easy to ride and low 30" seat height. Great brakes and not stupid fast. And don't believe all the stuff you read about people outgrowing and wanting a faster bike. I have a Harley 1200 Sportster and I'd take the KPM or X-Pect over it, any day of the week.
@@gregslair4278 thank you for your reply and honest review!
@@gregslair4278 to be fair. Harleys aren't exactly fast. Coming from someone who knows more about Harleys then I realistically should.
Stock Evo puts out like 70 hp. They drive around like a truck but bare torque. So they accelerate fast which is an issue. But the 1200cc bikes are more so shit like my buddies dumb ass heavily modified Hayabusa that even people used to 1000cc bikes need to be scared of.
That 250cc range and below can get boring and also less safe on some highways quick. 500cc in alot of riders I know opinion is the sweet spot. Don't really need more but less can be iffy.
For info sake while I'm also looking at a kpm200. My goal and would be first bike would be a custom soft tail bobber. With a 94 inch knuckle head by s&s. However I also want my bobber to be able to play with sport bikes on the 3 mile long private road on my buddies property. Home made drag strip basically. Used to be a private run way for some rich mofo in a privet little plane.
So actual goal power wise is like 170hp range. On the harley style engine. On a bike I'm planning an aluminium frame on. And probably 200 to 240 rear sport bike rim and tire set up for performance and weight savings. Aero drag means more hp but it'll still only really be able to play with 500cc bikes. And I've already figured if the knuckle head doesn't work means 2 bobbers and one that needs a minimum of a 124 cubic inch motor. That's like 2 litres.
And it'll get eaten by an old Hayabusa.
Displacement isn't everything. Someone tries to tell me the 450 sport bike from them would be too much bike. It's like less then 10 percent more powerful and gets eaten by a new 300cc car that's considered a decent starting bike.
Little disappointed by that. But other similar cases. Someone told me friend not to get an old harley basket case. I steered him right. He can afford insurance. 70 cubic inch motor. Like 50 hp. Has good torque though. And he got a valuable bike cheap got to mod it cheap since it didn't have factory paint worth saving and other issues. And he wanted a semi custom.
60s harley if I remember correctly. 9k on a nos knuckle head bike.
Bike weight can also be key. This friend is built like a foot ball player though.
Kpm better for me as a first bike. I'm built like a jockey. Heavy heavy dude like my friend my have issues on a kpm in a windy area if he planned a passenger as well and high ways. Not sure. But that's why I always say don't just worry about displacement. Or even always speed.
My uncle owned multiple glides. Also owned some nice other bikes and cars. Had a 500cc Honda cruiser. Bike couldn't get him on it to high way speed with a passenger though. Different 750 did the same to him. That's way back in the day but used bikes.
Weight can kill the top speed quick. And displacement isn't equal to power or top speed.
Greg glad to hear you like it more than the Harley. My first bike was a virago750 and I loves it. I then had a Sportster 1200 and didn't care for it. I have this one on the way and hoping I enjoy it.
@@gregslair4278 This was my question as well, and I was curious about the seat height. Thanks for answering. Now I have something to compete with a Honda Rebel for my first motorcycle.
Hi cool video. I just ordered one and hopefully it will arrive soon. Where I’d you get your phone mount? And what’s the brand? Thank you!
Hi and thanks for watching. Here is the most recent one I ordered and I like it better than the one in the KPM video. I have it on our KP--Mini in FL. www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07S8G7NK1/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_search_asin_title?ie=UTF8&psc=1
EDC Knives 2020 (I believe he might also be a Chinariders member) has the KPR200 and bought the KP Moto exhaust. You might want to see his channel to see what (if any) issues he had with the exhaust. I do know it sounded great on his June 21 video, so he does have it sorted out.
It looks to be a direct swap and would definitely be a better exhaust than the stock one. It is nice and quiet, which isn't bad, just want it a little louder.
I just discovered this bike and will be my next one! Question on the rear fender: how easy would it be to remove and replace with a plate holder? Thanks!
Hi. I'm not sure. I'll take a look at mine tomorrow and see what it would take to remove it.
@@gregslair4278 don't make too much work out of it. Just curious. When I get mine, I know I'll want to remove it, and put some racing handlebars to give it classic, yet modern look.
@@jessezuidema852 It was super craptacular here today, but supposed to be nice tomorrow so I'll take a look. I definitely want different bars for mine. Maybe some like the VanVan I have. I like an upright position and I have a bit of lean on the KPM (it's not bad though). And I want to put Dual Sport tires on it this spring and ditch the street tires cause I like to ride on dirt roads trails (nothing radical) and fields more than the street.
@@jessezuidema852 I took some pics, so email me at gregdhayes@yahoo.com. Doesn't look like the rear fender will come off without serious modification. However, the rear part where the license plate goes will. Ordered a Shinko 705 120/90-17 for another bike project. Gonna see how it would look on the KPM. It takes a 130/70-17.
Have you swapped any portions of the exhaust your Lifans? I’m contemplating aftermarket on mine. Thanks!
I put the Lifan upgraded exhaust on my KP-Mini. It sounds way better than stock. I don't think they make one for the X-Pect though.
Hey Greg are maintenance parts available such as oil filter, air filter, disc brake pads? If so where do you buy them and how much are they? Venom sent me the manuals with part numbers but where can you buy parts? Bike looks good for it's cost. I think the next stimulus checks are spent...
No oil filter, just a screen. You can get pads on Amazon or contact venommotorsports, their way better than txpowersports. Sorry for the late reply, I didn't get any notification.
I'm gonna put dual sport tires on ours, just gotta find some that fit. It's a great bike. Had it to 73 the other day and I was going up a hill.
@@gregslair4278 Thanks for replying! I ended up buying a 2012 Yamaha V Star 250 that's showroom shape for less than the KPM200. I can get parts anywhere for it. I almost went for the KPM200 though.
@@fanofoldfans9238 Yamaha's are fine bikes and without a doubt will be much easier to find parts that are an exact fit. I got three old 60's models I'm restoring (not so easy to find parts for).
I've had a ton of bikes in my lifetime so far at age 60. General rule of being 5mph faster than reality is pretty accurate. Comparing to a GPS they're always 4-5mph fast.
The Lifan bikes are fairly accurate. Not that any of them would break too many speed limits over 50!!!
Are these bikes reliable long term and would you choose this or the CSC sg 250?
Thanks
I know they are built well. No loose bolts anywhere, and all the plastics look good and match well. You also get EFI with the Lifan. The CSC is carb'd. When I rebuilt the old Hawk I had, I got all the parts from CSC. And their parts dept is very responsive.
Either one is is a great bike. I just felt the Lifan looked better and had EFI so cold starting wouldn't be an issue. And the KPM is a 6spd.
My KPM was $2950 delivered. Not sure on the current pricing on the SG250.
@@gregslair4278 wow, these are definitely marked up now. I was quoted $3600 OTD. The X-Pect was quoted as $2700 OTD. Good deal or no? Also is it difficult to raise the handlebars. I would like a more upright seating position, but I like the look and lower seat height of the KPM.
@@helloitsdawn The KPM seat height is pretty upright, so that shouldn't be an issue. $3600 for a KPM? Yikes. Where are you located? I might sell mine. I have way too many bikes.
@@helloitsdawn Sorry forgot to answer your question about the bars. You'd need some sort of bar riser to raise them up. And no, those prices aren't good. But with the gas prices skyrocketing up, I figured bike prices would rise since they typically get around 100mpg.
How many miles did you put on the bike before your first oil change?
I changed it immediately, before even starting it.
Someone just stole my venom x21 i was going to buy the same bike but i seen this do you think i should stick to the venom x21 or i should buy this instead?
Isn't the X21 a 50cc bike? Which it looks more like a Tao Hellcat (but a lot slower). The KPM200 is 200cc and a real size bike (though not too big at all). For the money, I'd go with the KPM. The wife is 5'3 and loves it. We had a TNT135 and she said it didn't feel safe over 50. Hope that helps.
Is there a place you can get replacement parts for? I looked around online and found nothing. My concern buying one is if something breaks I would be out of luck.
Yes, you can order from the kpmoto site
One more question about just shy of 6ft and weight about 230 do you think this will still move ok. I’m not looking for a speedster just something to get around town.
@@bentoellner5572 It would work just fine. This bike has plenty of balls (IMO)
We wanna know if the bike has some go
I think it does. Is it as fast as a 400cc from 0 to 60? Probably not. It feels faster than my VanVan 200 though. Is it as fast as my Sportster 1200 (hell no), but I'd ride it any day before the Sportster.
@@gregslair4278 Why u would ride ur sportster any day of the week?
@@JLozdrummin It's a bit too big for my liking
How's the seat height. For someone who's 5,6 with a 29 - 30 inseam.
Fine. The wife is 5'2 and she loves it. I'm 5'9 and no issues at all.
@@gregslair4278 Hey have you tried this 2 up. I was wandering how this handles 2 people. Can it maintain a
decent speed with 2 people. I'm trying to decide, do I get this. Or get a 2020 KTM adventure 390. Or the KTM duke 200. Thanks ride safe.
Completely different bike than the KTM. However, 2up hasn't been a problem
@@gregslair4278 Thanks nice to know, it can handle 2 up fairly well. Wow it's still hard to decide though. The KPM 200 17 horsepower single cylinder water cooled engine. From venom motorsports Is $2,999.00. Then they have to ship it to me. The KTM 200 is a single cylinder, water cooled 26 HP engine . $3,999.00 fully assembled. The KTM dealers only 45 min away. The KPM doesnt have ABS brakes, the KTM does. I like
the KPM'S retro look. I also like the KTM'S futuristic look. I havent rode a bike in a long time. And I'm looking
to get back on one. But can't decide wich one to get.
@@geraldroland5079 Well we're not about speed and definitely like the more retro look. The KPM would be much faster though. ABS to us isn't an issue either thought it is nice to have. If you're not mechanically inclined I'd say go with the KTM since you have a dealer nearby if issues crop up. The KPM is super easy to ride, low seat height, and handles great. It's no rocket ship, but I suppose it could kill you just as easily as say a Duke 390. We just picked up a 64 Trailmaster 80 and 65 Riverside 60. Gonna restore both. Now talk about Retro!!! And we'll be doing a video on both. The 64 is completely apart at the moment, the 65 is running and rideable.
How is it holding up now?
No issues so far.
What about now? After 3 years?@@gregslair4278
How's your KPM200 holding up after a year? Despite (or maybe because of) being Chinese-American, I've got a healthy distrust for Chinese-made products. But it's an observable fact they've been improving in the last... I wanna say five years or so, now that their middle class is getting bigger and they can hire workers with actual skills. I just completed my MSF BRC and need a cheapo bike to beat up with my stupidity for the next year or two; the price for both new and used bikes is absolutely wild right now (was quoted $7,200 for a KTM 390 Duke which has an MSRP of $4,599; saw a 2007 Honda Rebel with 50,000 miles selling for $2,500) so China bikes have caught my interest. I'm just not sure yet if they fall apart in the first 100 miles of ownership.
Lol, yes bikes are RIDICULOUS at the moment. However, the KPM is holding up just fine and ZERO issues with any of my Lifan bikes. I'm pretty impressed with the build quality of these bikes. Looking for some Dual Sport tires that'll fit the KPM, just put some Duro's on the KP-Mini and they are great, but they don't make a size for the KPM. I got mine from venommotorsports and I think SRKCycles is going to be selling them (he's on UA-cam). I'd look at all three, dealers are supposed to be getting more KP-Mini's in July.
@@gregslair4278 - No kidding! Hasn't given you any serious problems after a whole year? I did see SRKCycles' video, and have browsed Venom Motorsports USA a few times. I won't be financially set to really buy a bike until the end of July-- so maybe I'll get lucky and the market will calm down, or maybe I'll squeeze the trigger on a Lifan and hope I don't need to lean too hard on whatever warranty it comes with. Thanks chief, appreciate your time.
@@Blankstate No problem. No issues, other than when I dropped the KPM and broke the foot peg.
I have a couple questions for a guy that knows very little about motorcycles lol. I currently live in Alabama and I’m 20. How expensive and or difficult is it to get the insurance for this bike? How do I go about obtaining the insurance if I’m purchasing the bike via the internet? And how much did you pay for this bike?
Just call your local agent and get some. Dunno about full coverage (or if it'd even be worth the cost), but liability shouldn't be an issue. I didn't have any problems at all, and min is thru Geico.
I paid $2948 in April of 2019. I do believe they've gone up a bit.
Is it a full size bike (5'7 & up) or one of those little pocket bikes?
It's a full size bike. Weighs about 325lbs.
Coo
I plan on working on my Class M in Spring 2021, and was looking for a cheap beginner bike that I plan to be on by next Summer 😎
@@Yoshimata101 It's a great bike to learn on, not stupid fast, but fast enough for the road. Easy to flatfoot and handles great. and we love the styling. My only gripes are it could be a bit softer in the suspension (but I'm 56) and it's kinda hard to see the speedo with a full face helmet on unless you tip your head down.
I'll keep that in mind. I was looking at either that one or the KPR 200 or the Lycan.
Some nice country where you live
Yes it is, especially in the summer
Wondering why it's not showing all your views 🤔
Beats me. I didn't even get any notifications that people had responded.
How long did it take for you to receive your bike ?
Why do you keep comparing it to an enduro, obviously there will be massive differences in suspension, seat hardness and so on.
I'm not. But it does have decent ground clearance and with some good dual sport tires it would make a good semi enduro or scrambler.
Because it resembles a scrambler. Throw a cheap set of shinko knobbys and I think it would do pretty good on dirt and gravel, nothing crazy.
200cc will get you around town but not for highway
You could, since it'll do close to 80, but I'd probably change the front sprocket to get a little higher top speed.
@@gregslair4278 The bike is so light that the wind would blow you around and beat you down. Keeping up with traffic on some interstates would be next to impossible too. Some decades ago I tried taking a little road trip on a Honda NX 250. It really wasn't worth the grief.
@@jamesmziegler Agreed. They are light and crosswinds most definitely push it around. That is why I was never concerned with it's top speed. I'm quite happy with 50mph or less.
I've witnessed the KPM go 79 MPH stock. I don't think you're giving it enough. You're a little afraid of speed.
You betcha. I have a healthy fear of death. But I have had it close to 75 and I was starting up a hill, so I have no doubts it'll do more :-)
Confortable?? con esos neumáticos y esos caminos todos destruidos?? imposible!!, no es una motocicleta de turismo tipo "Africa Twin"
Pretty comfy. Not as comfy as the X-Pect though
Nowhere near an African Twin, nor is it an adventure bike