I always loved Bernie. What a class act. At the end of one season he bought his lineman each a case of Dom Perignon. After the Byner fumble against Denver Kosar walked over to Byner (who was sitting alone) and put his arm around Byner. As if to say, this is not all on you. The guy played on a broken ankle. Tough. He had a sense of humor. He joked that his 40 yard dash could be recorded on a sun dial. This guy had almost no agility but found clever ways to win and always had amazing accuracy.
I remember seeing a program on TV where Bernie's accuracy was on display and Bernie's accuracy was described as "uncanny". I thought that description was perfect!
@ right! There was an old story I heard that went like this. Bernie, as I remember, was at a competition . Guys throwing through a tire. Bernie was turned facing away from the tire talking to someone. Somebody flipped the ball to Bernie and said Bernie, it’s your turn. Bernie turns around and just like it’s the easiest thing in the world chucks the ball (in typical Bernie fashion) right through the tire. He didn’t even stop to focus. Just spins around and throws right away. Man….when Bernie was on he was on. Used to love watching him throw to Slaughter and Ozzie.
One thing about Bernie, when he he cocked that ball to go deep you would leap to your feet because you knew someone was out there and the ball would be delivered on point. Miss those days.
First time watching Kosar. Never saw even a top quarterback throw so many accurate long passes which seem to float with a soft toss while Kosar had no chance to get set. Quite a talent!
@@zombiebats52 they might have been on the same level but during Bernie's tenure as quarterback the defense was a little bit better than it was in the KARDIAC KIDS day's because Brian Sipe's football IQ was on the same level or nearly as effective as Bernie KOSAR... Unfortunately the Browns have never, in the SUPER BOWL ERA, been a great defensive team.... I think that has held them back from ever being AFC Champion's.
@@michaeltabor9596no it isn't. Frank Ryan was the smartest player to ever where a browns uniform.he was a professor and mathematics genius. While teaching at ivy League Universities he led the browns to their last NFL championship as the quarterback
Kosar got it done ugly. Clunky herky jerky mechanics. Off balance, side arms etc...didn't matter. He had great timing, a strong arm, very good accuracy, and an incredible feel for the game.
I love BK. I wish the Browns would have been able to keep him from taking such a beating. He really sacrificed his body for the team and for the fans. Smart player with guts and heart. Humble guy. Always referred to himself simply as #19.
@0:33 The play that ended Kosar's time in Cleveland. Belechick had called for one play, Kosar saw the Defense players coming to the field and changed the play to the route Slaughter ran. Two days later, Kosar was benched...for winning, but doing so against Belechik's will.
@@BigFatSmellyFoot He did like winning; his way or the highway. Bernie in his day was an offensive mastermind and knew his opponents better than any other QB in the League. Bernie also probably knew that and his play change was an affront to Belechick's authority. Remember, Cleveland was Belechick's first HC job. Ego vs Ego. According to reports, later in life, Bernie and Bill buried the axe for mutual respect.
@@stellertonybeller1972 Y'know...I think you might be right. I know the play that ended it looked a lot like the one I commented; but I do recall that Bernie was pretty notorious for coming up with play adjustments in the huddle.
That's shocking if he got benched cause he went against the coach. Most coaches would have said good play Bernie. Hell of a quick release kinda like marino
For years had to listen to TV announcer say how awkward his motion was, kinda side arming it, just slinging it (oh but the ball was on target) -- now in today's game. P, Mahomes tosses it side are -- NOW its Brilliant.
This Boardman native playing QB is so awkward, but so fun to watch. As if a random Joe Fan from the stands was chosen to play NFL QB for a day as part of a charity event or contest. BERNIE!
I forgot how freaking fast Webster Slaughter was. As much as I enjoy the deep ball, I'm interested in finding video of an entire drive, from start to finish. In my memory, The Browns historically a running team, would destroy defenses with pounding runs from Mack and Byner, and with these crazy little dump passes over the middle, which drove defenses absolutely nuts. THEN, Bernie would fake that, and dump one of those deep balls (off of his back foot, or while back peddling) over the heads of the defense, who kept bunching up to stop those crazy Bernie Kosar dump passes over the middle. That's how I remember it. I want to see some video...
He was the best quarterback we had since the mid 50s Brian Sipe would be another the last 20 something years have been a daymare for this team can't get it right ever since Modell moved this team
The biggest mistake Bill Bellicheck ever made was dumping Bernie way too early. He shouldn't have just been a high level backup, who maybe can start for an elite guy like Marino and Aikman when they got hurt. He was still playing well, there was no drop off as he implied the year he cut him, Bill missed that. He was still able to have multiple good years left with Cleveland and he had a wonderful career with winning to go with it, that most Brown's fans have missed ever since him and those teams of course 😭.
Yeah, Belichick at that time in his career did not want a quarterback changing plays and calling audibles. His last play for the Browns was him disregarding the play called on the sidelines and throwing a bomb for a touchdown. Belichick was so pissed he threw his headphones on the ground. Bernie was released that week. Too bad. The Browns were 5-1 and winning the division. They finished 7-9 for the year. Bernie got his Super Bowl ring that year with Dallas. That was a huge strength of Mary Schottenheimer, he let Bernie do his thing, and they made the playoffs in each of Bernie's first five years.
I guess, at this point, I need to express how thankful I am for having gotten to see a REAL QB. It's been a shit show in Cleveland ever since since the day they let Bernie go. Love ya BK! Nothing but the best!
In my opinion, I blame the coaching more than I blame the talent around him... Marty proved himself to be a winning coach, but Bernie often butted heads with him in key situations. They had Webster Slaughter, Reggie Langhorne, Brian Brennan, Ozzie Newsome, and others on offense (including a solid O-line of Risien, Fike, Baab, Williams, and Farren). I think they definitely lost against Miami in '85 because of coaching, and they probably lost because of coaching on the drive against Denver in '86. Marty was a great coach and should not have been let go as soon as he was, but it does seem like he was a little too conservative with leads in the second half
@@detroitandclevelandfan5503 Bernie played half a game on a broken leg and won. It wasn't an excuse for the loss. As for Brains, well, that goes without saying as Baker can't read the simplest of defenses or make the most basic of audibles
I never understood what was so great about him especially amongst the greats of that time watch him run like he had crap in his pants Then watch Elway or Marino or Warren Moon or or Joe Montana Phil Simms Jim Kelly he was an average quarterback with great talent surrounding him
That's a fair argument, he wasn't athletic and he was running for his life a lot of the time. But the talent around Kosar gets talked about less than Kosar gets talked about. There aren't a lot of people out there talking about the greatness of Webster Slaughter, Kevin Mack, and Reggie Langhorne... Those guys were great players (maybe they really are just underrated), but they aren't talked about nearly as much as Thurman Thomas, Andre Reed, OJ Anderson, Jerry Rice, or the Marks brothers. All of those guys surrounded the quarterbacks you mentioned.
@@josephhecht6331 You’re right in the way but no one talks about Jerry Rice? Arguably the greatest receiver of all time Webster slaughter is very very underrated And no one ever seems to mention the Tight end Brian Brennan he saved him a lot I always felt the Browns could’ve won a Super Bowl back then if they just had a different quarterback But Cleveland loved that guy smh
It’s just very uncomfortable to see I watch football to get away from that shit.......football brings all races together always has and now they are trying to ruin one of the things that brings people together
@@Rustykid Because this guy sees all Black people as "criminals". You know how vastly ignorant and sickeningly hateful racists are...especially on the internet. If only everyone had his precious, glistening white skin crime would be a thing of the past. Edit: And even if Breonna Taylor were a criminal, which she most certainly was not by all objective measures, killing her without due process would clearly have been a galling crime. Racists are incapable of seeing this sort of thing as a problem that affects them. But being murdered sans due process is unequivocally a very serious problem that potentially affects all of us, whether now or in the future. This is an issue that affects all of humanity. These ill-informed reprobates also, unsurprisingly, fail to comprehend that sports has always been political. None of this is new. None of it.
I miss these Browns. Not sure who is playing there now. A bunch of spoiled, entitled, me, me, me, players who only went to college so they can make millions.
Kosar to Slaughter was one of the best combos of the mid-late 1980's.
No doubt!
Watched him in his glory years of the eighties, ran like a glacier but a thought process like lightening. One of the greats of Browns history.
Wow , I'm watching my youth. Great times .
Another great yet underrated QB, really great.
Yes Kosar and Sipe in 70s and 80s and 90s for Kosar
Bernie was a super star in Cleveland, and well deserved. Talent and smarts!
Goddamn what a hell of a QB. Even better guy. Love Bernie.
They say he could read a defense as good as anyone who ever played. I always enjoy hearing his thoughts about today's Browns teams.
hell yea. My golden retriever was named Kosar. (12.27.07 - 09/02/20)
@@SocialAssasin RIP. Golden retrievers are the best. Maybe the next one can be Otto or Sipe
@@josephhecht6331 Baker keeps it up and that may be it.
@@SocialAssasin baker is not the guy
It was fun in those days !! Hope we have fun again ! Go Browns
He was beaten up and never backed down...all heart, brain, and guts
yeap, What Turtle Marino does not have it, for an example
I always loved Bernie. What a class act. At the end of one season he bought his lineman each a case of Dom Perignon. After the Byner fumble against Denver Kosar walked over to Byner (who was sitting alone) and put his arm around Byner. As if to say, this is not all on you. The guy played on a broken ankle. Tough. He had a sense of humor. He joked that his 40 yard dash could be recorded on a sun dial. This guy had almost no agility but found clever ways to win and always had amazing accuracy.
I remember seeing a program on TV where Bernie's accuracy was on display and Bernie's accuracy was described as "uncanny". I thought that description was perfect!
@ right! There was an old story I heard that went like this. Bernie, as I remember, was at a competition . Guys throwing through a tire. Bernie was turned facing away from the tire talking to someone. Somebody flipped the ball to Bernie and said Bernie, it’s your turn. Bernie turns around and just like it’s the easiest thing in the world chucks the ball (in typical Bernie fashion) right through the tire. He didn’t even stop to focus. Just spins around and throws right away. Man….when Bernie was on he was on. Used to love watching him throw to Slaughter and Ozzie.
Love the mid to late 80 browns.
I am a die hard packer fan. But Bernie Was my favorite qb as a kid.
What a Great Quarterback Bernie Kosar was. No question about it man.
I was in a small group talking with Dan Marino once in the mid 1990s. He said that Bernie Kosar was the most accurate long passer he had ever seen.
BK and Marino were good friends dating back to Bernie's college days at the U and Marino's early days with the Phins. Bernie was on the money.
Bernie and Dan Marino are two of my all-time favorites!
One thing about Bernie, when he he cocked that ball to go deep you would leap to your feet because you knew someone was out there and the ball would be delivered on point. Miss those days.
Marino and kosar 2 of the best QBs to ever play the game who never won a superbowl
@@davidviton1065 Bernie won a SB with Dallas
Wow. Memories glued to VHS reruns came back to me
Glad you enjoyed it!
@@josephhecht6331 i LOVE it. I want a PART 2 XDD
I dont care about his awkward, unorthodox style. His long ball over the shoulder throws are unmatched. Crazy accuracy.
Mahomes?
First time watching Kosar. Never saw even a top quarterback throw so many accurate long passes which seem to float with a soft toss while Kosar had no chance to get set. Quite a talent!
God Bless Bernie Kosar
Bernie is my all-time favorite player in any sport. Absolutely love Bernie!!
Great memories from my youth and lifetime. Such an honor to watch Kosar and the entire Browns team during the 70's. So much fun!
Thanks for this. It reminds me that the Browns once had a good QB. Wonder if the Browns will ever have another one.
Not unless they get Watson’s ass out of the way!! 👎🏿
Kosar was such an intelligent QB. He could have went so much farther with the right tools. What a talent.
Best QB in Browns history. Criminal he isn't in the HoF
Watching this made me remember how good Webster slaughter was with Kosar.
Slaughter was a weapon… very underrated
@@josephhecht6331 But had he stayed with his block in Denver, The Fumble might not have happened.
Perfect QB for that team.
How so?
One of the best quarterbacks to never win a Super Bowl!
He has a ring, just not from the browns.
@@beasthandler9263yep Bernie got a ring Whilst in Dallas.
where have you been? He DID win a Superbowl
I’m from Cleveland Ohio, & I’m now 49 years of age. I WILL NEVER FORGET THESE DAYS, they meant the world to me. God Bless U all. 🙏🏿
O yea, one other thing, we share birthdays! November 25th!
What a time period
Bernie had magnificent touch.
Bernie was an intelligent and clever quarterback....probabaly only second to Otto Graham.....in Browns history
100% truth!
Funny because Sipe holds almost all the passing records, I agree Bernie is better though
@@zombiebats52 they might have been on the same level but during Bernie's tenure as quarterback the defense was a little bit better than it was in the KARDIAC KIDS day's because Brian Sipe's football IQ was on the same level or nearly as effective as Bernie KOSAR... Unfortunately the Browns have never, in the SUPER BOWL ERA, been a great defensive team.... I think that has held them back from ever being AFC Champion's.
@@michaeltabor9596no it isn't. Frank Ryan was the smartest player to ever where a browns uniform.he was a professor and mathematics genius. While teaching at ivy League Universities he led the browns to their last NFL championship as the quarterback
And coming up fast for behind and this is a big "IF they win the big one" is Joe Flacco.
85-89 he was Great before all the injuries threw a great deep ball Baker mayfield has a long way to go to be on Kosars Leauge
Yeah I love Kosar's release too. It looks way faster than a lot of other QBs even today
Kosar got it done ugly. Clunky herky jerky mechanics. Off balance, side arms etc...didn't matter. He had great timing, a strong arm, very good accuracy, and an incredible feel for the game.
I love BK. I wish the Browns would have been able to keep him from taking such a beating. He really sacrificed his body for the team and for the fans. Smart player with guts and heart. Humble guy. Always referred to himself simply as #19.
Webster Slaughter the MAN.
Indeed. I always like watching him and Langhorne do their high-five celebration.
YES SIR!!!!
But he was the reason for "The Fumble" in Denver. He gave up on his block and it was his man that caused it!
I miss those exciting Browns teams with Bernie, Byner, Mack, Slaughter, and Metcalf. Doesn't hurt to reminisce, though. Got You Tube to thank...😂.
Kosar to Newsome. The days we remember as much as the Jim Brown era.... Gone forever
such great memories
Kosar Kramer McMahon Fun to watch for sure!!!
What a great couple years. Unfortunately never to be seen again.
I remember watching him and the Cardiac Kids.
He may have looked akward, but he could read a defense and his long ball was $$$$
last Bernie game as a Brown was vs Broncos🎉🎉🎉
Those were the days!
That's my f-ing QB
He just endorsed the hell out of Flacco.
I think that Bernie Kosar should buy the Cleveland Browns
@0:33 The play that ended Kosar's time in Cleveland. Belechick had called for one play, Kosar saw the Defense players coming to the field and changed the play to the route Slaughter ran. Two days later, Kosar was benched...for winning, but doing so against Belechik's will.
For real? That's kinda insane, I thought Belechick of all people LIKED winning.
@@BigFatSmellyFoot He did like winning; his way or the highway. Bernie in his day was an offensive mastermind and knew his opponents better than any other QB in the League. Bernie also probably knew that and his play change was an affront to Belechick's authority. Remember, Cleveland was Belechick's first HC job. Ego vs Ego. According to reports, later in life, Bernie and Bill buried the axe for mutual respect.
it was Cleveland vs Denver and Kosar changed the play hitting Michael Jackson for a TD .... drawing up the play in the dirt lol
@@stellertonybeller1972 Y'know...I think you might be right. I know the play that ended it looked a lot like the one I commented; but I do recall that Bernie was pretty notorious for coming up with play adjustments in the huddle.
That's shocking if he got benched cause he went against the coach. Most coaches would have said good play Bernie. Hell of a quick release kinda like marino
Kosar to Slaughter is my favorite combo ever!!
Awkward ? YES
Most accurate QB ever ? YES
One of the best teams to never win the SB
For years had to listen to TV announcer say how awkward his motion was, kinda side arming it, just slinging it (oh but the ball was on target) -- now in today's game. P, Mahomes tosses it side are -- NOW its Brilliant.
Man he may of been slow but he had a big arm.
This Boardman native playing QB is so awkward, but so fun to watch. As if a random Joe Fan from the stands was chosen to play NFL QB for a day as part of a charity event or contest. BERNIE!
the old NFL a game of men
Great memories and very good Quarterback. Those were the “Browns”.
Still have my number 19 jersey from the 80s...
If Kosar had had the OL & RB that Aikman did, he would have had a longer career- maybe even have gone into the HOF.
The good ol' days!
Pre-‘99 when the players really wanted to play and the coaches really wanted to coach.
Open with Don Criqui and Bob Trumpy on the call. 😊 the memories, '80s NBC
Otto and Brian Sipe.
Loved Webster Slaughter all day every game
It's cool watching football back then
Has had major head and brain issues due to the number of hits he took
Bernie and Slaughter were a great deep ball combo.
Not sure if anyone knows who Quinn Ewers is but Kosar really reminds me of how Ewers throws. He just flicks the ball effortlessly. GO BUCKS!
I forgot how freaking fast Webster Slaughter was.
As much as I enjoy the deep ball, I'm interested in finding video of an entire drive, from start to finish. In my memory, The Browns historically a running team, would destroy defenses with pounding runs from Mack and Byner, and with these crazy little dump passes over the middle, which drove defenses absolutely nuts. THEN, Bernie would fake that, and dump one of those deep balls (off of his back foot, or while back peddling) over the heads of the defense, who kept bunching up to stop those crazy Bernie Kosar dump passes over the middle.
That's how I remember it. I want to see some video...
He was the best quarterback we had since the mid 50s Brian Sipe would be another the last 20 something years have been a daymare for this team can't get it right ever since Modell moved this team
I'm pretty sure every play he ever called in the huddle was either run left, right, middle, or Webster Langhorne on one...ready break!
Geez. How sad is it that the screen pass to Brennan is a highlight?
The days before the comeback pass..
kosars ball fakes and play action was great
Any one notice on his lobs he thre ball three seconds early the ball was waiting on the receiver
The biggest mistake Bill Bellicheck ever made was dumping Bernie way too early. He shouldn't have just been a high level backup, who maybe can start for an elite guy like Marino and Aikman when they got hurt. He was still playing well, there was no drop off as he implied the year he cut him, Bill missed that. He was still able to have multiple good years left with Cleveland and he had a wonderful career with winning to go with it, that most Brown's fans have missed ever since him and those teams of course 😭.
Yeah, a lot of his problems during the Belichick era were philosophical, not physical
Yeah, Belichick at that time in his career did not want a quarterback changing plays and calling audibles. His last play for the Browns was him disregarding the play called on the sidelines and throwing a bomb for a touchdown. Belichick was so pissed he threw his headphones on the ground. Bernie was released that week. Too bad. The Browns were 5-1 and winning the division. They finished 7-9 for the year. Bernie got his Super Bowl ring that year with Dallas. That was a huge strength of Mary Schottenheimer, he let Bernie do his thing, and they made the playoffs in each of Bernie's first five years.
@@jharrison1185 I totally remember that and totally agree with you.
Belichick and his fricking EGO he's damn lucky he wound up with Brady or he would have been 2 years and done
I’m glad madden made me aware that he existed
there is nothing better than when the cleveland browns are playing great football.
When players jerseys got dirty
Yes, back then there were 3 kinds of playing surfaces across the NFL: Grass, astroturf, and Cleveland Stadium's spray painted mud
I guess, at this point, I need to express how thankful I am for having gotten to see a REAL QB. It's been a shit show in Cleveland ever since since the day they let Bernie go. Love ya BK! Nothing but the best!
Give that guy a decent offensive line a couple good receivers and he could win. One of the smartest.
In my opinion, I blame the coaching more than I blame the talent around him... Marty proved himself to be a winning coach, but Bernie often butted heads with him in key situations. They had Webster Slaughter, Reggie Langhorne, Brian Brennan, Ozzie Newsome, and others on offense (including a solid O-line of Risien, Fike, Baab, Williams, and Farren). I think they definitely lost against Miami in '85 because of coaching, and they probably lost because of coaching on the drive against Denver in '86. Marty was a great coach and should not have been let go as soon as he was, but it does seem like he was a little too conservative with leads in the second half
Don't forget he also had two 1000 yard running backs in Ernest Byner and Kevin Mack in the backfield as well. What a team!@@josephhecht6331
How many throws is he just making off his back foot?
Slaughter always open lmao I mean like 3 steps open
Webster Slaughter was pretty darn good... he isn't mentioned nearly often enough as one of the better receivers of the 80s and 90s
Blitz Kosar and be ready to pay the consequences... wished that Baker has the brain and guts of #19
Dude him playing banged up like he is shows he has guts. Don't know what you are talking about.
@@detroitandclevelandfan5503 Bernie played half a game on a broken leg and won. It wasn't an excuse for the loss. As for Brains, well, that goes without saying as Baker can't read the simplest of defenses or make the most basic of audibles
My friends dad would drink beers with him
Yeahhhhhhhhhhhh
Jump Art!
I never understood what was so great about him especially amongst the greats of that time watch him run like he had crap in his pants Then watch Elway or Marino or Warren Moon or or Joe Montana Phil Simms Jim Kelly he was an average quarterback with great talent surrounding him
That's a fair argument, he wasn't athletic and he was running for his life a lot of the time. But the talent around Kosar gets talked about less than Kosar gets talked about. There aren't a lot of people out there talking about the greatness of Webster Slaughter, Kevin Mack, and Reggie Langhorne... Those guys were great players (maybe they really are just underrated), but they aren't talked about nearly as much as Thurman Thomas, Andre Reed, OJ Anderson, Jerry Rice, or the Marks brothers. All of those guys surrounded the quarterbacks you mentioned.
@@josephhecht6331 You’re right in the way but no one talks about Jerry Rice? Arguably the greatest receiver of all time Webster slaughter is very very underrated And no one ever seems to mention the Tight end Brian Brennan he saved him a lot I always felt the Browns could’ve won a Super Bowl back then if they just had a different quarterback But Cleveland loved that guy smh
Otto Graham was the Browns greatest QB, ever. However, not to far behind is Bernie Kosar.
Otto Graham went to 10 straight championship games
@@geneguidone6085 Amazing.
No criminal names on the back of the helmets... football was football back then.. fun.
100% agree. No politics involved either..
It’s just very uncomfortable to see I watch football to get away from that shit.......football brings all races together always has and now they are trying to ruin one of the things that brings people together
how was breonna taylor a criminal jackass
@@Rustykid Because this guy sees all Black people as "criminals". You know how vastly ignorant and sickeningly hateful racists are...especially on the internet. If only everyone had his precious, glistening white skin crime would be a thing of the past.
Edit: And even if Breonna Taylor were a criminal, which she most certainly was not by all objective measures, killing her without due process would clearly have been a galling crime. Racists are incapable of seeing this sort of thing as a problem that affects them. But being murdered sans due process is unequivocally a very serious problem that potentially affects all of us, whether now or in the future. This is an issue that affects all of humanity.
These ill-informed reprobates also, unsurprisingly, fail to comprehend that sports has always been political. None of this is new. None of it.
I don't know what you're watching. I haven't seen the name of a single cop on the back of any player's helmet.
Boy he threw a great deep ball. Having slaughter as a deep threat didn’t hurt either. He was dangerous downfield
We were better than Denver all day long twice!
Had a sense of where to pass. Notice he often threw off his back foot. Get well Bernie, Mike a from um.
@4:09 unreal
Awkward AF but he times his streaking recievers perfectly
C-3PO
Put a fork in the Bears 🐻 their done 😂
Last good qb the Browns had
Don crqui
until john elway came to town......
Do me a favor when showing pre 99 browns clips. Edit out Model nobody wants to see that trash owner.
I miss these Browns. Not sure who is playing there now. A bunch of spoiled, entitled, me, me, me, players who only went to college so they can make millions.
😂
Manziel was way better.
Man, those stadium crowds really got loud back in the day.