The target "marker": 10:14 View inside the barrel: 13:27 The target: 14:55 Close look at the target 16:58 Final preaparations at: 17:22 Fiering at: 20:58 Impact: 23:27
I wish "orbital" was an accurate description. KSP ruined me for sci-fi. I can't accept an object sitting stationary above a planet. Cool build nonetheless. Edit: Just noticed upload date, not that there are orbital mechanics being simulated with the actual planets either.
That station... I knew where it was from immediately, didn't even need you to mention the movie! Many people disagree with me, but it was one of my favorite movies of all time. Nice build of it!
+Sweet Spirit Unfortunately I do need to mention it since it is a very underrated movie, and not many of us are aware of it. It is just freaken epic : D I enjoyed the movie allot as well. I wonder why it never really got all that popular. And thank you : )
XallZallRising Oh doesn't mean you didn't have to mention it ~.^. It's underrated because it got just absolutely horrendous negative feedback upon its release, though. Usually it's because of these two reasons below; *Because it was one of the very first all-CG movies, people were not used to it and it was an experiment of sorts. Many people thought it looked too fake because it was trying to look realistic, as opposed to other CG movies that focus on being cartoony. as a video gamer, though, I am used to such graphics so whatever. I will admit the animations used are a little 'off' in the movie. *It has final fantasy in the title yet it has nothing to do with a final fantasy game. In my opinion it harkens to final fantasy story devices enough that it should count, but that's what a lot of people were mad about. You could also argue that video game movies have a bad reputation, but I don't know how much that affected people's preconceptions of the movie.
Sweet Spirit Great points! Yeah I didn't think of it that way since, I too am used to it, or used to video game graphics, I can image the people that were new to something like this just got freaked out or something along the line, or as you said, saying it looked fake. While people that were used to such graphics and knew about final fantasy were more or less let down that it had so little to do anything with the game franchise, besides the names. To bad though, I thought it was pretty epic ^^ and would recommend it to any sci fi fan.
You know you're a halo fan when the phrase orbital cannon makes you think of the UNSC MAC Orbital Platforms and from 21:13 - 22:00 the timer block makes you think of the pills of Autumn and when the firing sound comes on around 22:00 you think of sound you hear when chief has his shields down
Using the remote control block to centre the cannon is a great idea. I do feel like you could extend it further though by using the remote control block on the ballistic. This would home in on the target with perfectly accuracy and deliver a deathly blow. You don't have to do this, it was just a thought I had. Have a good day! -Jarmsie
Considering that 1 small block represents about 0.33 meters, it's safe to save that you were off by about 10 meters. And if the drone was a large ship, it would be closer to 20+ meters off.
+XallZallRising Dood, this is the greatest potential workshop item I've ever seen for any games!! It looks so awesome and the fact, that you hit a pretty small ship over a distance of ~30km and absolutely SHREKT it with a projectile without any explosives is really fantastic.. please make some more videos about it! Show us the maximum damage it can deal to bases or very large ships.
+p3d0bAer4U I plan to make at least one more video about it : D Some good suggestions, I will try to show off all its capabilities, damage, new ammo types, how to effectively use it and how to effectively defend the base from such an attack, if that is even possible.
What type of blocks used in projectile, blast armour blocks are another great block this type of weapon & could use rotors to attach additional fragments, giving a narrow spread to negate near miss results, creating a micro lotus
Warheads will blow up from defensive fire even if the exterior armour is not breached. Arm your ballistic with blast door 'pillars' in the front, and if you want to sacrifice a little bit of accuracy for further impact damage, let a rotor spin 4 'arms' with blast doors. This will basically grind your ballistic through more layers of armour before it disintegrates itself through impact. Also it looks cool.
Not so much related to this project, but thanks for your keen (no pun intended) engineering and programming insights. Your work has me thinking about better design. Great to see a fellow gaming enthusiast giving back to the community. I appreciate it.
I never really thought about the damage potential until that ship got destroyed in the end. Fucking awesome. I need to build one of these on a server asap.
Experiment with the center of thrust and center of mass, putting them in different places could help the computer get a steady shot instead of slightly overcorrecting.
Wow..... it's so impressive so see how realistic your weapon works! And even though the bullet isn't that dangerous, it still can make lots of damage! I've got 2 questions for you: 1= how do the grinders ''know'' what they have to do? 2= can such a bullet reach the surface of that planet? Again, really impressive and most important, original!
+Aapaap Sikkel Thanks for your kind comment : ) 1. The grinders know what to do, because I set them up in a sequence. You can do this by means of timer blocks. What happens here is that when you press "fire", what it really does is activate timer block one, which in turn triggers several functions such as, extending the pistons and activating "timer block 2" then timer block 2 is delayed for X seconds, x meaning any amount of seconds. And then timer block 2 has its own set of instructions, such as turning on the welders and projector, and timer block 3. Timer block 3 has also a delayer and then when activated, turns on the grinders, retracts the pistons and activates timer block 4, and nr4 activates the gravity generators etc. In short: I am activating timer blocks that activate more timer blocks. And each activate other stuff in the mean time as well. Another example is a timer block activating itself, you can activate itself and say make a piston reverse. Like this you can make the piston go up and down, and you can alter the speed of that by the time delayed on the timer block. 2. If you wanna see more about this cannon, and even a orbital strike on real planets, as well as shooting from 500 kilometers on a surface target, check out my video called "space snakes" in that, I do exactly just that : )
wow, that thing is awesome. especially the accuracy. if this thing was to be fired on a specific house of a city on the planet it would maybe hit the neighboring house but probably not. it's very likely to hit the exact house that you want to hit. really great. and with 12 million kg it's actually pretty lightweight for such a big thing. my mining ship is probably about half the lenght and much more sleek and weighs about the same when it's empty and about twice when it's full. but then again my mining ship has the exterior made out of heavy armor (because it's supposed to burrow through asteroids) and obviously needs to be able to store a lot of material. and another thing is that it's not solely constructed as a mining ship as it has 4 refineries on-board which help to save space (at least a tiny little bit) by refining a few of the mined materials into ore while travelling to the next asteroid.
not only is the cannon based off that game but its based off G.I. Joe too, the name of it is zues cannon and G.I. Joe has a orbital cannon named the same name
Is everything here actually Functional. I mean the gyroscopes... Are they there to look cool or are they actually necessary.... Are there actually a certain number of them that you need in order for the ship to function properly? If so then this game is extremely deep, even deeper than I originally thought.
A revolving chamber might be useful, it would be pretty tricky to do, but it would allow for a higher rate of fire. Also, shredder or shrapnel shells might be worth looking into.
+Executing file iexplorere.exe Hmm... It is an interesting thought. Would need to redesign or make a complete new ship though if I decided to do that, in the future perhaps when I make another orbital cannon, I will most certainly consider this concept.
It's because of orbital strikes that I decided to build underground xD And it also save the trees :) (I used missiles launcher on a rotor to drill a nice circle in the mountain) after that Voxel hand is your friend to clean the rest and create more space to build. But I have to rebuild it once again because of the update.... the base wasn't "flat" Good luck destrying me from orbit xD
+E ïgyriel Chances are that you will be safe : ) Not being spotted is the best defense. However if the scouting drone does spot an underground base, depending on how deep it is, if it is not to deep, it is still in danger. However if you ever make the mistake of turning a beacon or antenna on, chances are that you will be spotted sooner or later. But a Orbital Cannon or anything for that matter, will not have really a chance of doing anything against you, no land vehicle, no plane, nothing really, if they cannot spot you. Maybe in the future we will get some sort of Radar to detect buildings and such. For now, the best Radar we have is limited to 50 meters, that being the sensor, which could detect you, if it flies over you, but it offers a way to little search area. I hope they will add in some sort of Radar : )
Maybe a variant that would launch a salvo of ammunition with a slight spread to hit targets. I was messing around with a couple orbital ships with mounted torpedos though there was a dispersion of around a kilometer. Maybe with programable blocks one could create a script to track a moving target and fire , though there is about a 6 minute travel time to the ground from 40km. A projectile made out of blast doors would be effective against heavy targets.
+Kieran Domigan Well, I'd imagine it to be a lag fest lol, but if they are 1 kilometer or more apart then it is entirely possible. Obliterating the planets surface.
Imagine groups of of people getting together and waging wars against different planets of people. Yeah, if you could get groups to design weapons to use against others on another planet...
I want to see the cannon be deorbited and crashed into the ground. To make things interesting, turn off you gravity half way down and list the station to the side...
I think you should have made it so a projectile is always in the chamber, and when you start it up it fires the round and constructs another one immediately for the next time, the speed of the rounds firing overall would be the same since its doing the same process but it would have a shorter time between starting up the missile system and the impact of said missile on target
+Rohan2300 That is a really damn good point, I did not even think of using solar panels and or batteries. If I could charge the batteries really fast, before the shell is fired, it could run on a single battery. The movements needed is minimal, unless it is being fired from an angle in which case more expensive ammo types are needed anyway.
Wersorpe Omg thank you so much for pointing this out, now I recall this being mentioned somewhere before, I completely forgot about the 30% charged when constructed. This eliminates the expensive reactors and need of uranium. The energy needed is minimalistic. Gah I feel silly now. But thanks to you, all new shells for the upcoming upgrade of this ship will be battery based.
Random Nightfury You have no idea, how badly I wanted to release a video about that this week, with other ammo types as well, but pistons and rotors are being super mean. The update came today, so I will have to see if they fixed it.
+Galaxy Gazer The more you know ^^ Funny thing is that I played this game well over 500 hours and still don't know everything there is to it. I figured out the lights not so long ago.
Galaxy Gazer Hahahaha, I am glad I am not the only one so. I been just recently looking into how the heck decoys work. Feel like a noob every now and then when I make these "discoveries".
I think the moving parts are the problem with the accuracy. They slightly move the ship, too. And on that distance, already a small change in direction makes a difference. "we don´t want to move the ship at all" and a few seconds later "the camera rotates out of the way"... THAT and the pistons are the problem.
+Aracnah Also another big problem with actual planets would be the gravitational pull. the projectile would do an arc. Without having seen the inspirational video, I guess that is the reason why they missed.
+Aracnah I been firing with the planets update. Even with this method, which is a bit old compared to my new one, I been firing at ground bases. Currently off target by 10 meters. But I already found ways to get the bulls eye at any range. I will release a video about it when it is done.
+callum kay (call yop) : D Thanks man, I am working on new shell types. Only thing preventing me from making large progress is the piston and rotor bug, making testing of the new shells rather difficult. Every so often I fire, or for no reason at all, the pistons and rotor heads vanish o.O I managed to hit from 500 kilometers away as well. I wanted to actually release this Wednesday, but it was not possible. I hope tomorrow we get a bug fix patch.
+XallZallRising your design is genius especially the targeting system. One word of caution (or advice) is that I've noticed with high velocity projectiles in space engineers is that sometimes the bullet passes through an object before the game registers an impact causing the bullet to phase through. On the other hand this can be used to your advantage because you would be able to have a bullet phase through a large amount of armor in which the game would eventually register the impact and cause large amounts of internal damage, sometimes with no entrance hole.
Vastator A very good point. I did notice that the impacts were smaller then what I expected. I will try firing again with normal speed settings. I been really trying hard to get a new video out on this ship presenting new ammo types and a record distance shot, 500 kilometers, but the rotors and pistons are an absolute disaster atm, the heads of the pistons and rotors vanish for no reason. I hope thy fix it today so I can continue making progress. I love the feedback all of you guys are giving me, there has been great suggestions and recommendations that I can't wait for to try out.
When I get the game, I am building a cannon I have planned that is twice the size of this, and can target both planetary targets and large ships, and uses railguns as it's main weapon
I would not advise it, it was reaching the point of being somewhat laggy. Exceed 12.000 blocks and you get lags, and I have a pretty high end computer. I'm just saying this to spare you the trouble, as I attempted to build the Nostromo from the movie Alien, but had to scrap it because it got to large to the point where it would seriously make the game lag so much that it was unplayable.
Thank you EnjoyCocaColaLight I plan to release a modless version eventually :) I made allot of progress already, I just have an insane amount of difficulty making interiors without mods, so I am struggling with that stage, the exterior is 90% done, the firing mechanisim is also around 95% complete. Just the damn interior design >.
All in all awesome build, looks nice and good precision, but i think you can make it a bit better if you experiment with some slight tweeks. I say make a heavy armored projectile, fill it with loads of warheads, but you said that yourself anyway =) get rid of thrusters and/or gyros on it, they could actualy divert the flight path and make it less acurate in this case. Also the rotation of the 'telescope' can cause the ship to move slightly so try using the gps autopilot after you move it to the side. You can also have a shortcut that turns off all gyros and thrusters when you are done aiming to make it impossible to move the ship with the mouse...
+vovapsix Thanks for your suggestion vovapsix, it is the critics that make the ship better. And indeed, I read this from a couple of people now and I am working on these ideas. Your in for a surprise in the upcoming update, especially in the ammunition selection. From cheap basic light block shells to guided cluster bombs capable of hitting literally bulls eye at 500 kilometers. I managed to hit targets at 500 kilometers with solid shells in space conditions. Explosives are proving to detonate and blast the ship in half. Looking for a way to fix that. And hitting surface targets is not tested yet. Working on that as well atm. Good idea with the turning every essential component off to avoid moving the ship.
shoulda installed a gravity drive and activated autopilot on that little balistic device, also the no speed limit mod, so you get a damn quick projectile ;) BUT DAMN NICE STATION AND HOLEY FEK i wish i was creative
I don't have any experience with programmable blocks, but could it be possible to get the coords of the target and your own gps coordinates, make a vektor out of it and set it as target for autopilot? With this you could burn away from the target while actually getting the cannon perfectly aligned to it.
+Zach Sylvester I stumbled across you guys before creating this ship, I saw the whole 40 minutes of testing and experimenting the two of you where conducting. And all I could think of was how to improve the accuracy and that I wanna fire twice the distance. The whole ship was based around that very idea : )
XallZallRising wow lol and today im editing a thing i recorded last night its a much improved version of the cannon ill prob be posting tomorrow since im going to edit it this time.Also I Thought the inside is really cool
Zach Sylvester I look forward to the improved version. I am also still currently improving this cannon, I managed to get maximum accuracy, even at ranges over 500 kilometers, hitting targets on the surface of planets, but the piston and rotor bugs are making life difficult atm. And thanks, I wonder how your ship will look. Guessing it will be a pure vanilla build?
In all logic, You're firing a projectile through the atmosphere, it'll gain so much speed i don't think it matters if it hits at terminal velocity... close enough will kill most things your aiming for. But i'm talking from real world logic, Not space engineers
Would it be possible to mount purely direction thrusters on the space station, so that it does not move forward while aligning in autopilot? That way you could leave autopilot on and it could track moving targets too.
+Electro-Cute I have to watch out in future, when I made this video, I was thinking maybe a 100 people would watch max. I did not think much of it. So I was not phrasing myself with great care. Now I get ass kicked for it : P
is there a shorter version of this video? really cool build but i'm literally 4 minutes in and all i know so far is you got some inspiration from final fantasy
well... if you could get the Geostationary orbit right, and the angle... it could work, i mean, at that point you don't even need continual thrust once it got into the atmosphere... Accuracy from orbit is always an issue, look at Star Wars orbital strikes and such, always spread like an artillery strike. so maybe if you had more than one barrel and you were firing mutiple rounds... "Fire for effect, Over!"
+dowmein It works, I have a video called "Space Snakes + Updates" I fire on a real planet from a range of 500 kilometers. Pretty dead on. PS: Sorry for the late reply.
+Валентин К (CCCP Punk) Thanks man, I been continuing working on this, and am trying to hit a target 500 kilometers away at the moment. The maximum range for Antennas ^^ I only shot once so far, around 200 to 500 meters off target @500 kilometers. So I'm looking for ways to increase accuracy. One shot traveling at 300 meters per second takes around 20 to 30 minutes to reach the target xD
Jack Cobalt You can of course reduce that time by flying closer, but it takes a long time firing from the maximum distance due to the speed limitation. I can tell you one thing though, if it hits from such a range, it is really satisfying : D What I do is fire and put my watch on a count down. It warns me after 25 minutes, then I start looking for the shell with either the drone in survival or spectator in creative. And await the impact.
XallZallRising would it be possible to put a mobile camera on the projectile it's self so you could follow it? Haven't played the game in some time not sure if they have something like that
Jack Cobalt It would be possible to put a camera on the nose of the shell, that would require however an additional remote control block and an antenna. It would make the shell expensive to produce in survival, in creative it would be no problem. However, I seem to lose control after 50 kilometers of the shell fired. So we could see up to 50 kilometers and then lose the signal. I could bypass this with a laser communications dish, but that would be even more expensive. But in short: it is possible.
The target "marker": 10:14
View inside the barrel: 13:27
The target: 14:55
Close look at the target 16:58
Final preaparations at: 17:22
Fiering at: 20:58
Impact: 23:27
+Sion Marry me please
+Sion People like you are making the world feels better, thanks
+Sion should have been a 5 minute video
+That 1 Pope he is stupid take 40 minutes to show a cannon firing
+Sion Thank you very much.
How do people come up with these designs... I can't even make a semi-unique looks ship...
Well, not sure if he says it in thevideo, but he stole the overall design from Final Fantasy: The Spirit Within.
He said he was inspired by it, its not 1:1 to the exterior took design ideas from there, there is even a clip from spirits within in the video.
There are no si much original designs, you usually get inspiration from someplace
Tip; video editing makes a worlds difference in ease to watch.
wow ikr
Im getting GTA Online vibes here.
,,U wot? I got killed because i am bad, gunna pay 750k to kill my opponent once!"
35:18 endlessly satisfying. I look forward to a day when SE is optimized to the point that things like that can be done to large ships. :D
I can confirm that 6 years later clang is still king
I wish "orbital" was an accurate description. KSP ruined me for sci-fi. I can't accept an object sitting stationary above a planet.
Cool build nonetheless.
Edit: Just noticed upload date, not that there are orbital mechanics being simulated with the actual planets either.
Same
This man predicted the future of GTA
gta didnt invent it..... he got the idea from final fantasy lmao
Pack the round with explosives too
I wish these projectiles were allowed to break the speed limit.
That station... I knew where it was from immediately, didn't even need you to mention the movie!
Many people disagree with me, but it was one of my favorite movies of all time. Nice build of it!
+Sweet Spirit
Unfortunately I do need to mention it since it is a very underrated movie, and not many of us are aware of it. It is just freaken epic : D
I enjoyed the movie allot as well. I wonder why it never really got all that popular.
And thank you : )
XallZallRising Oh doesn't mean you didn't have to mention it ~.^.
It's underrated because it got just absolutely horrendous negative feedback upon its release, though. Usually it's because of these two reasons below;
*Because it was one of the very first all-CG movies, people were not used to it and it was an experiment of sorts. Many people thought it looked too fake because it was trying to look realistic, as opposed to other CG movies that focus on being cartoony. as a video gamer, though, I am used to such graphics so whatever. I will admit the animations used are a little 'off' in the movie.
*It has final fantasy in the title yet it has nothing to do with a final fantasy game. In my opinion it harkens to final fantasy story devices enough that it should count, but that's what a lot of people were mad about.
You could also argue that video game movies have a bad reputation, but I don't know how much that affected people's preconceptions of the movie.
Sweet Spirit
Great points!
Yeah I didn't think of it that way since, I too am used to it, or used to video game graphics, I can image the people that were new to something like this just got freaked out or something along the line, or as you said, saying it looked fake.
While people that were used to such graphics and knew about final fantasy were more or less let down that it had so little to do anything with the game franchise, besides the names.
To bad though, I thought it was pretty epic ^^ and would recommend it to any sci fi fan.
The hardest part of this is aiming without coords. its virtually impossible at 30KM, but the weapons are accurate way past there.
You know you're a halo fan when the phrase orbital cannon makes you think of the UNSC MAC Orbital Platforms and from 21:13 - 22:00 the timer block makes you think of the pills of Autumn and when the firing sound comes on around 22:00 you think of sound you hear when chief has his shields down
Valynaz Valkynaz i thought of ALL the same things ahahahhahahahah halo for life
I still love to watch these video's for old time sake, we where so happy making stuff go boom, the simplicity was all we needed.
Using the remote control block to centre the cannon is a great idea. I do feel like you could extend it further though by using the remote control block on the ballistic. This would home in on the target with perfectly accuracy and deliver a deathly blow. You don't have to do this, it was just a thought I had.
Have a good day!
-Jarmsie
+James Sorbello
It is a a good recommendation and that I have already messed around with. So good thinking ; )
Indeed, you will get dead on accuracy!
+XallZallRising Maybe use the Autopilot? When all thrusters are turned off the satellite wouldn't fly anywhere just spin or not ? :D
The thumbnail kinda looks like the "low orbit ion cannon" logo.
ikr i knew i wasent the only one
Hmm, I never seen that, I just checked it out and your right.
Considering that 1 small block represents about 0.33 meters, it's safe to save that you were off by about 10 meters. And if the drone was a large ship, it would be closer to 20+ meters off.
+XallZallRising
Dood, this is the greatest potential workshop item I've ever seen for any games!! It looks so awesome and the fact, that you hit a pretty small ship over a distance of ~30km and absolutely SHREKT it with a projectile without any explosives is really fantastic.. please make some more videos about it! Show us the maximum damage it can deal to bases or very large ships.
+p3d0bAer4U
I plan to make at least one more video about it : D
Some good suggestions, I will try to show off all its capabilities, damage, new ammo types, how to effectively use it and how to effectively defend the base from such an attack, if that is even possible.
What type of blocks used in projectile, blast armour blocks are another great block this type of weapon & could use rotors to attach additional fragments, giving a narrow spread to negate near miss results, creating a micro lotus
Warheads will blow up from defensive fire even if the exterior armour is not breached.
Arm your ballistic with blast door 'pillars' in the front, and if you want to sacrifice a little bit of accuracy for further impact damage, let a rotor spin 4 'arms' with blast doors.
This will basically grind your ballistic through more layers of armour before it disintegrates itself through impact.
Also it looks cool.
Lets hope they arent tryhards
This is the singlest coolest fucking build I've ever seen in my whole life.
Not so much related to this project, but thanks for your keen (no pun intended) engineering and programming insights. Your work has me thinking about better design. Great to see a fellow gaming enthusiast giving back to the community. I appreciate it.
I never really thought about the damage potential until that ship got destroyed in the end. Fucking awesome. I need to build one of these on a server asap.
21:15 actual fire sequence begins
+Gregg Acuff i thought this was actually going into a planet but it sadly was not lol
That is just awesome! that hit really destroyed that thing.
Experiment with the center of thrust and center of mass, putting them in different places could help the computer get a steady shot instead of slightly overcorrecting.
this video could have been 25 minutes shorter
Fast forward to 35 mins to skip a lot of rambling and see a rather disappointing cannon shot.
thanks
oh, wo..woow. That was, yeah, uhm. Great! xD
Thanks Serah Deadsong
i've had poops more exciting, than the climax to this video.
When hes says Ideas he pronounce it as I-dears LOL i'm dead xD
Wow..... it's so impressive so see how realistic your weapon works! And even though the bullet isn't that dangerous, it still can make lots of damage! I've got 2 questions for you:
1= how do the grinders ''know'' what they have to do?
2= can such a bullet reach the surface of that planet?
Again, really impressive and most important, original!
+Aapaap Sikkel
Thanks for your kind comment : )
1. The grinders know what to do, because I set them up in a sequence.
You can do this by means of timer blocks.
What happens here is that when you press "fire", what it really does is activate timer block one, which in turn triggers several functions such as, extending the pistons and activating "timer block 2" then timer block 2 is delayed for X seconds, x meaning any amount of seconds. And then timer block 2 has its own set of instructions, such as turning on the welders and projector, and timer block 3.
Timer block 3 has also a delayer and then when activated, turns on the grinders, retracts the pistons and activates timer block 4, and nr4 activates the gravity generators etc.
In short: I am activating timer blocks that activate more timer blocks.
And each activate other stuff in the mean time as well.
Another example is a timer block activating itself, you can activate itself and say make a piston reverse.
Like this you can make the piston go up and down, and you can alter the speed of that by the time delayed on the timer block.
2. If you wanna see more about this cannon, and even a orbital strike on real planets, as well as shooting from 500 kilometers on a surface target, check out my video called "space snakes" in that, I do exactly just that : )
Does anyone know if the orbital cannon glitch still works for this?????
Lmao
wow, that thing is awesome. especially the accuracy. if this thing was to be fired on a specific house of a city on the planet it would maybe hit the neighboring house but probably not. it's very likely to hit the exact house that you want to hit. really great.
and with 12 million kg it's actually pretty lightweight for such a big thing. my mining ship is probably about half the lenght and much more sleek and weighs about the same when it's empty and about twice when it's full. but then again my mining ship has the exterior made out of heavy armor (because it's supposed to burrow through asteroids) and obviously needs to be able to store a lot of material. and another thing is that it's not solely constructed as a mining ship as it has 4 refineries on-board which help to save space (at least a tiny little bit) by refining a few of the mined materials into ore while travelling to the next asteroid.
You think you could make something similar, but in the style of a UNSC Orbital Defense Cannon/Super MAC?
Please, never change the way you say "Ideas"
Nathan Sisler it makes the video so painful to watch
if i fucking hear this guy say ideer one more time
That satellite would make a great horror map.
So did planets in space engineers used to just be modded skyboxes that you could never reach?
1:05 I too am searching for the Eye deers ,meet me under the bridge next to the old garlic farm
Hate detected! Launch the Orbital Friendship Cannon!
Welding in a room of pure oxygen? That's pretty smart
not only is the cannon based off that game but its based off G.I. Joe too, the name of it is zues cannon and G.I. Joe has a orbital cannon named the same name
Is everything here actually Functional. I mean the gyroscopes... Are they there to look cool or are they actually necessary.... Are there actually a certain number of them that you need in order for the ship to function properly? If so then this game is extremely deep, even deeper than I originally thought.
+Christopher Moody basically yes
Zeus Cannon form the Final Fantasy: The Spirits Within movie hahah! Awesome work!
A revolving chamber might be useful, it would be pretty tricky to do, but it would allow for a higher rate of fire. Also, shredder or shrapnel shells might be worth looking into.
+Executing file iexplorere.exe
Hmm... It is an interesting thought. Would need to redesign or make a complete new ship though if I decided to do that, in the future perhaps when I make another orbital cannon, I will most certainly consider this concept.
It's because of orbital strikes that I decided to build underground xD
And it also save the trees :)
(I used missiles launcher on a rotor to drill a nice circle in the mountain) after that Voxel hand is your friend to clean the rest and create more space to build.
But I have to rebuild it once again because of the update.... the base wasn't "flat"
Good luck destrying me from orbit xD
+E ïgyriel
Chances are that you will be safe : )
Not being spotted is the best defense. However if the scouting drone does spot an underground base, depending on how deep it is, if it is not to deep, it is still in danger.
However if you ever make the mistake of turning a beacon or antenna on, chances are that you will be spotted sooner or later.
But a Orbital Cannon or anything for that matter, will not have really a chance of doing anything against you, no land vehicle, no plane, nothing really, if they cannot spot you.
Maybe in the future we will get some sort of Radar to detect buildings and such.
For now, the best Radar we have is limited to 50 meters, that being the sensor, which could detect you, if it flies over you, but it offers a way to little search area. I hope they will add in some sort of Radar : )
Maybe a variant that would launch a salvo of ammunition with a slight spread to hit targets. I was messing around with a couple orbital ships with mounted torpedos though there was a dispersion of around a kilometer. Maybe with programable blocks one could create a script to track a moving target and fire , though there is about a 6 minute travel time to the ground from 40km. A projectile made out of blast doors would be effective against heavy targets.
Some of these creations are as complicated in real life, I really am amazed by some people
that was very impressive imagine multiple of these firing one after the other
+Kieran Domigan
Well, I'd imagine it to be a lag fest lol, but if they are 1 kilometer or more apart then it is entirely possible. Obliterating the planets surface.
Congrats on 2k
CryForHealth, thank you very much, before these videos I had about 100 subs, gotta get back into uploading stuff, just never get around it of late.
Imagine groups of of people getting together and waging wars against different planets of people. Yeah, if you could get groups to design weapons to use against others on another planet...
I want to see the cannon be deorbited and crashed into the ground. To make things interesting, turn off you gravity half way down and list the station to the side...
19:18 *Aiming the Orbital Cannon
Wow, amazing work man
I think you should have made it so a projectile is always in the chamber, and when you start it up it fires the round and constructs another one immediately for the next time, the speed of the rounds firing overall would be the same since its doing the same process but it would have a shorter time between starting up the missile system and the impact of said missile on target
To fix the lighting issue, try increasing the radius on the lights, it will make them light up a larger area.
21:31 anyone else's palms getting sweaty? just me? ok...
Zeus Cannon from Final Fantasy with the ghost spirit consuming thingies, with Gaia. :3
with one of the recent updates, batteries spawn with some charge, you might find them a cheaper option than reactors for your projectiles :)
+Rohan2300
That is a really damn good point, I did not even think of using solar panels and or batteries.
If I could charge the batteries really fast, before the shell is fired, it could run on a single battery. The movements needed is minimal, unless it is being fired from an angle in which case more expensive ammo types are needed anyway.
+XallZallRising Batteries as soon as they are built they have a 30% charge but for balance if you grind or salvage them you only get scrap metal back
Wersorpe
Omg thank you so much for pointing this out, now I recall this being mentioned somewhere before, I completely forgot about the 30% charged when constructed. This eliminates the expensive reactors and need of uranium.
The energy needed is minimalistic. Gah I feel silly now. But thanks to you, all new shells for the upcoming upgrade of this ship will be battery based.
+XallZallRising
*cough*
High Explosive Rounds
*cough*
Random Nightfury
You have no idea, how badly I wanted to release a video about that this week, with other ammo types as well, but pistons and rotors are being super mean. The update came today, so I will have to see if they fixed it.
So the station has some interesting weaknesses that could be interesting for competitive multiplayer
aye caramba! you blow my mind excellent work, it's awesomely amazing! Congrats.
The lights would be more effective if you messed around in there settings. They have brightness, distance, etc settings you can change.
+Galaxy Gazer
The more you know ^^
Funny thing is that I played this game well over 500 hours and still don't know everything there is to it. I figured out the lights not so long ago.
XallZallRising Ya, I found out about the feature A week before commenting, and I have played this game for almost a year now.
Galaxy Gazer
Hahahaha, I am glad I am not the only one so.
I been just recently looking into how the heck decoys work. Feel like a noob every now and then when I make these "discoveries".
I think the moving parts are the problem with the accuracy. They slightly move the ship, too. And on that distance, already a small change in direction makes a difference.
"we don´t want to move the ship at all" and a few seconds later "the camera rotates out of the way"... THAT and the pistons are the problem.
+Aracnah Also another big problem with actual planets would be the gravitational pull. the projectile would do an arc. Without having seen the inspirational video, I guess that is the reason why they missed.
+Aracnah
I been firing with the planets update.
Even with this method, which is a bit old compared to my new one, I been firing at ground bases. Currently off target by 10 meters. But I already found ways to get the bulls eye at any range.
I will release a video about it when it is done.
XallZallRising
Oh, that surprises me now. I mean a straight drop wouldn´t surprise me that much, but even at an angle? That is nice. :)
That is insanely good all you need to make it better is to add more types of shells but woah that is an awsome build
+callum kay (call yop)
: D Thanks man, I am working on new shell types. Only thing preventing me from making large progress is the piston and rotor bug, making testing of the new shells rather difficult. Every so often I fire, or for no reason at all, the pistons and rotor heads vanish o.O
I managed to hit from 500 kilometers away as well. I wanted to actually release this Wednesday, but it was not possible. I hope tomorrow we get a bug fix patch.
+XallZallRising your design is genius especially the targeting system. One word of caution (or advice) is that I've noticed with high velocity projectiles in space engineers is that sometimes the bullet passes through an object before the game registers an impact causing the bullet to phase through. On the other hand this can be used to your advantage because you would be able to have a bullet phase through a large amount of armor in which the game would eventually register the impact and cause large amounts of internal damage, sometimes with no entrance hole.
Vastator
A very good point. I did notice that the impacts were smaller then what I expected. I will try firing again with normal speed settings.
I been really trying hard to get a new video out on this ship presenting new ammo types and a record distance shot, 500 kilometers, but the rotors and pistons are an absolute disaster atm, the heads of the pistons and rotors vanish for no reason. I hope thy fix it today so I can continue making progress.
I love the feedback all of you guys are giving me, there has been great suggestions and recommendations that I can't wait for to try out.
When I get the game, I am building a cannon I have planned that is twice the size of this, and can target both planetary targets and large ships, and uses railguns as it's main weapon
I would not advise it, it was reaching the point of being somewhat laggy. Exceed 12.000 blocks and you get lags, and I have a pretty high end computer. I'm just saying this to spare you the trouble, as I attempted to build the Nostromo from the movie Alien, but had to scrap it because it got to large to the point where it would seriously make the game lag so much that it was unplayable.
It only would be thicker, not any wider, and much of it would be hollow.
12000? My ship right now is around 100,000 in total and it's not even done. It Runs smoothly for me.
100,000? My ship is 100,000,000,000 blocks in total and it's not even done. Runs at 50,000 fps for me.
Well, I'm getting an alienware. They run pretty damn smoothly. And I have good internet.
Pretty awesome build. Very impressive. I love that movie, too.
2018, still one of the coolest builds ever.
Thank you EnjoyCocaColaLight
I plan to release a modless version eventually :)
I made allot of progress already, I just have an insane amount of difficulty making interiors without mods, so I am struggling with that stage, the exterior is 90% done, the firing mechanisim is also around 95% complete. Just the damn interior design >.
I really like it. Interior design can always be made without mods, I promise :D
All in all awesome build, looks nice and good precision, but i think you can make it a bit better if you experiment with some slight tweeks. I say make a heavy armored projectile, fill it with loads of warheads, but you said that yourself anyway =) get rid of thrusters and/or gyros on it, they could actualy divert the flight path and make it less acurate in this case. Also the rotation of the 'telescope' can cause the ship to move slightly so try using the gps autopilot after you move it to the side. You can also have a shortcut that turns off all gyros and thrusters when you are done aiming to make it impossible to move the ship with the mouse...
+vovapsix
Thanks for your suggestion vovapsix, it is the critics that make the ship better.
And indeed, I read this from a couple of people now and I am working on these ideas. Your in for a surprise in the upcoming update, especially in the ammunition selection. From cheap basic light block shells to guided cluster bombs capable of hitting literally bulls eye at 500 kilometers.
I managed to hit targets at 500 kilometers with solid shells in space conditions. Explosives are proving to detonate and blast the ship in half. Looking for a way to fix that.
And hitting surface targets is not tested yet. Working on that as well atm.
Good idea with the turning every essential component off to avoid moving the ship.
I wonder how hard it would be to make an orbital drop pod. And even if you could, would it drop to the surface face enough to actually be practical?
shoulda installed a gravity drive and activated autopilot on that little balistic device, also the no speed limit mod, so you get a damn quick projectile ;)
BUT DAMN NICE STATION AND HOLEY FEK i wish i was creative
I don't have any experience with programmable blocks, but could it be possible to get the coords of the target and your own gps coordinates, make a vektor out of it and set it as target for autopilot?
With this you could burn away from the target while actually getting the cannon perfectly aligned to it.
lol thanks for talking about me.
+Zach Sylvester
I stumbled across you guys before creating this ship, I saw the whole 40 minutes of testing and experimenting the two of you where conducting. And all I could think of was how to improve the accuracy and that I wanna fire twice the distance. The whole ship was based around that very idea : )
XallZallRising wow lol and today im editing a thing i recorded last night its a much improved version of the cannon ill prob be posting tomorrow since im going to edit it this time.Also I Thought the inside is really cool
Zach Sylvester
I look forward to the improved version.
I am also still currently improving this cannon, I managed to get maximum accuracy, even at ranges over 500 kilometers, hitting targets on the surface of planets, but the piston and rotor bugs are making life difficult atm.
And thanks, I wonder how your ship will look. Guessing it will be a pure vanilla build?
yep lol
OH Final Fantasy :D best movie yet
Zall i will gladly look foreword to getting this on the workshop, i hope you can further improve this like making it orbitable with its auto pilot.
In all logic, You're firing a projectile through the atmosphere, it'll gain so much speed i don't think it matters if it hits at terminal velocity... close enough will kill most things your aiming for. But i'm talking from real world logic, Not space engineers
Man I love your great idears! 10 out of 10
u can apply a spin to the projectile to improve accuracy
Would it be possible to mount purely direction thrusters on the space station, so that it does not move forward while aligning in autopilot? That way you could leave autopilot on and it could track moving targets too.
He took it from the movie and just added a new paint job
"more acuratly speaking: It is an orbital satellite cannon" Well the definition of a satelite is a physical object that orbits a larger object :P
+Electro-Cute
I have to watch out in future, when I made this video, I was thinking maybe a 100 people would watch max. I did not think much of it. So I was not phrasing myself with great care.
Now I get ass kicked for it : P
XallZallRising Haha.
Very nice ship by the way :D
*****
Thanks ^^
Tip to watch this or any other video where the game has low fps put the video speed on 1.25 for a ~30fps ish video/gameplay
that looks like the Zeus Bio-athieric orbital laser cannon from "Final Fantasy: The Spirit within"
Awesome i just saw this video as recommended and i really like it!
Idears.
yup,Gundam 00,celestial beings
Ideas*
Wow you're a great builder
30KM accurate is like saying schwer gustav 30KM accurate
its a Coil gun to be precise with that kind of projectile makes it so obvious
It like listening to a slower version of Travis Miles from Fallout 4.
Try putting a timer on it to make it jettison some projectiles on launch. It will improve your results!
Or have it break into a bunch of pieces when it gets close
basically the same thing
to just angle it, Remove all thrusters and just add gyroscopes. Lots of gyroscopes.
Most Impressive!
is there a shorter version of this video? really cool build but i'm literally 4 minutes in and all i know so far is you got some inspiration from final fantasy
Spirits within was an awesome move!
Thanks for giving gta the idea
Holy shit it's FF Zeus cannon o_o
Can you do a video of you firing this at a planetary base in the current build?
Would this even work in the current build? Seems like planet gravity would kill any accuracy it would have.
well... if you could get the Geostationary orbit right, and the angle... it could work, i mean, at that point you don't even need continual thrust once it got into the atmosphere... Accuracy from orbit is always an issue, look at Star Wars orbital strikes and such, always spread like an artillery strike. so maybe if you had more than one barrel and you were firing mutiple rounds...
"Fire for effect, Over!"
+UNSCrearadmiral in other words lots and lots of math
The Harley Dragon pretty much
+dowmein
It works, I have a video called
"Space Snakes + Updates"
I fire on a real planet from a range of 500 kilometers. Pretty dead on.
PS: Sorry for the late reply.
he fires at 22:00
thanks
To solve dark light problem , adjust their zone of influence
I figured it some time ago : ) But thank you for the advise.
the station is in the film naamed (german) Zeus Station
Could you make a video of it firing at a large ship like an imperial star destroyer?
Ffs this is what gave rockstar ideas
Fantastic!
+Валентин К (CCCP Punk)
Thanks man, I been continuing working on this, and am trying to hit a target 500 kilometers away at the moment.
The maximum range for Antennas ^^
I only shot once so far, around 200 to 500 meters off target @500 kilometers. So I'm looking for ways to increase accuracy.
One shot traveling at 300 meters per second takes around 20 to 30 minutes to reach the target xD
+XallZallRising man that sounds like a fun wait
Jack Cobalt
You can of course reduce that time by flying closer, but it takes a long time firing from the maximum distance due to the speed limitation. I can tell you one thing though, if it hits from such a range, it is really satisfying : D
What I do is fire and put my watch on a count down. It warns me after 25 minutes, then I start looking for the shell with either the drone in survival or spectator in creative. And await the impact.
XallZallRising would it be possible to put a mobile camera on the projectile it's self so you could follow it?
Haven't played the game in some time not sure if they have something like that
Jack Cobalt
It would be possible to put a camera on the nose of the shell, that would require however an additional remote control block and an antenna. It would make the shell expensive to produce in survival, in creative it would be no problem.
However, I seem to lose control after 50 kilometers of the shell fired. So we could see up to 50 kilometers and then lose the signal.
I could bypass this with a laser communications dish, but that would be even more expensive.
But in short: it is possible.