Mazda Cx-9 Water Pump & Timing Chain Replacement - DIY - Start to Finish - Coolant Mixes with Oil

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  • @mphomapoulo5026
    @mphomapoulo5026 16 днів тому

    Hey GT Flips,
    Thanks for the great video. On removing the power steering pump, I was able to remove the bolts on it, two from below (engine must be lowered) and one from the top. I did not have to cut the stretch belt; I just rotated the pump to the passenger side and it got the belt off of it.

  • @stevemitchell4568
    @stevemitchell4568 4 місяці тому +2

    Bro ... I want to say thank you for this video. Never gone this deep under the hood, and your video literally walked me through, step by step. Few things to finish up on my 2015 CX9, and then I'm done changing the water pump, oil pan gasket, and an array of other things along the way. I haven't started it yet, and no matter what happens, I learned a ton.. I have all the tools I'll ever need and saved about 5k doing it myself. Super grateful!!

    • @gtflips
      @gtflips  4 місяці тому +1

      You got it ! Appreciate the feed back !

  • @john-ch8vd
    @john-ch8vd Рік тому +7

    Thank you ! I watched your video and found it very educational. I will watch it one or maybe two more times before diving into project. Thank you for showing and suggesting all of the replacement seals and gaskets also the sealant. I replaced the spark plugs so I understand how to remove throttle body and intake manifold. There are many steps involved in the process and you described them in great detail. The description and tricks for the removal of the timing cover are priceless, I have watched other videos and the mechanic did not know the tricks and I watched him split that case into two pieces because he was trying to pry it off. Again thank you for this information!

    • @gtflips
      @gtflips  Рік тому

      Thank you, glad the video helped out. 👍

  • @DavidEschete
    @DavidEschete 4 місяці тому

    Great video! Just finished the job. Just make sure you watch all the way through since there seems to be couple clips that might be out of order. Great info that really helped me.

  • @gabriellaraziah
    @gabriellaraziah 11 місяців тому

    looking into getting a 2012 mazda… glad i watched this! i’ll be triple checking that oil and looking into replacing it before its too late!

  • @marccrotty8447
    @marccrotty8447 10 місяців тому

    The CX9 timing chains is a tough job. Good video.

  • @patrickconroy8729
    @patrickconroy8729 Рік тому +4

    Amazing job! I was considering buying a CX-9 but no longer! Like you said, the Ford engineers who designed the internal water pump setup are incompetent. No wonder they are so much cheaper than Toyota Highlander

    • @lallas92
      @lallas92 Рік тому +1

      Can confirm. Water pump went out on my wife’s 2015. No warning. Garbage.

  • @matthewwiersma2031
    @matthewwiersma2031 3 місяці тому +1

    thank you sir this is much appreciated

    • @gtflips
      @gtflips  3 місяці тому

      @@matthewwiersma2031 you got it, glad it helped out

  • @dconde78
    @dconde78 9 місяців тому

    This is Gold! Thank you!

  • @gersonkumba5512
    @gersonkumba5512 3 місяці тому

    Very helpful video thanks for sharing, hey I noticed I didn’t see you put the upper left side chain guide in.

  • @drnotebook
    @drnotebook 8 місяців тому +2

    My Mazda CX-9 has coolant in the oil at 81,000 miles. The first symptom was no heat was coming out of the heater vents inside, the air was stone cold in February. The car never overheated, or ran out of coolant. I added coolant as soon I found it low, and good inside heat after that. But then 7 days later I found the coolant low again, so I added coolant a second time. It started running rough after that. I took it to a mechanic and he pulled the oil filler cap and saw milkshake-like oil. He said the engine needs to be taken out to fix it, because the water pump is INSIDE the engine. He said Mazda should really do the repair because the job is very time consuming and requires a Mazda expert mechanic. For a Water Pump??#*&#???
    I called the Mazda dealers in my area and they SHOCKED me, when they said it will cost anywhere from $7500 to $11,000 to fix it. Mazda in Danvers, MA would not touch the job, saying a replacement engine alone would cost $7500 BEFORE labor costs.
    The Blue Book value is less than $6500, so it it not worth replacing the engine. Given the probability that the water pump failure happened once, then it could happen again. Putting a used engine in is a big risk, because the engine design is fundamentally flawed.
    Many 1000s of Mazda customers have had the same problem, so many in fact that at least 2 large class action lawsuits have been litigated so far. Mazda fought it and won, and didn't give any recompense to customers.
    Mazda's response in 2023 was that they terminated the CX-9 model completely.
    I am an engineer, quite mechanical and good at fixing most things. I watched the video from start to finish and found the job doable, but I would have to spend a few hundred dollars to get all the parts and tools. With this project, there are too many critical details for me to pay attention to. The author gives several DIRE warnings throughout this video about what NOT to do. Many steps -- if done poorly -- WILL require you to clean up your mistake, basically start over , or you WILL have a screwed up the engine.
    This repair is a complicated job to fix a fundamentally defective engine design. The video author has MANY years experience with major car repairs. Water pumps regularly wear out in older cars and must be replaced in most older cars over 100,000 miles. So they are an easily replaceable part in most older cars. The fact that the Mazda CX-9 timing chain and water pump are integrated so tightly is just plain wrong!! This engine was not designed for maintainability.
    The more I read about Mazda, the more committed I am... I WILL NEVER BUY ANOTHER MAZDA AGAIN !!

    • @maolo76
      @maolo76 Місяць тому

      do you think could have been design different without coolant leaking into oil pay.

  • @bruce6364
    @bruce6364 8 місяців тому

    thank you for super good video. i have a question. do you know where all the oil on the outside cover(before removal) is from? is it from valve cover?

  • @nelaco1
    @nelaco1 11 місяців тому

    Well done!

  • @paolino8941
    @paolino8941 3 місяці тому

    Thanks so much for your video. Where is the best place to buy water pump and timing belt kit or set? Thanks.

  • @robertwynkoop68
    @robertwynkoop68 4 місяці тому

    Was the customer getting a check engine light and a P0016 for bank 1, cam a? Ours(My daughters) is getting a P0016, happened quick, still had water in reservoir, so it got caught early. My scan tool showed the cam was running 12 degrees advanced. I pressurized the cooling system to verify coolant leaking in oil. Most likely the water pump. Thanks for the video, lots of helpful tips.

  • @john-ch8vd
    @john-ch8vd Рік тому +3

    After I removed the timing cover I place a towel over the oil pan area that is located directly below water pump the towel will stop anything that falls out of the broken water pump from falling into the oil pan. Broken impeller and barring chips will fall into pan then your screwed

  • @gillianschroedergs
    @gillianschroedergs Рік тому +2

    What cam holding tool did you go with?
    Did you end up finding more fragments of the water pump?

    • @gtflips
      @gtflips  Рік тому +3

      BETOOLL Camshaft Holding Tool Timing Alignment Holder Tool Set Kit Compatible with 303-1248 303-1530 Ford 3.5L & 3.7L 4V a.co/d/9xEaacY
      Yeah there were more fragments, oil also got into the cooling system. We had to do multiple coolant flushes to remove all the oil. But now its functioning fine, no issues.

  • @nguyentung8697
    @nguyentung8697 11 місяців тому +1

    Great job!! Do you think changing coolant regularly can help avoid the leak? Thanks.

    • @gtflips
      @gtflips  11 місяців тому +2

      No, the brillant engineer who designed this was special. Its only a matter of time when it will break.

    • @nguyentung8697
      @nguyentung8697 11 місяців тому

      @@gtflips thank you. One more question. My 2015 just gets 18mpg combined. What do you get? How can i improve?

  • @lestatybarbo6545
    @lestatybarbo6545 Рік тому +1

    I think mine is leaking from the outside,bottom is cover in antifreeze and seen the driplets as the car was idling,am I lucky I just caught it?

  • @justinschwarz2947
    @justinschwarz2947 Рік тому

    do you could diagnose this byremoving the valve cover and checking the timing chain for looseness, and maybe using a prybar to see if the water pump sprocket has any axial play in it?

  • @rudebloke1
    @rudebloke1 Місяць тому +1

    There was a lawsuit about this engine. The judge dismissed it. But after watching this video, I really feel people should sue again. This amount of work for a water-pump is absolutely ridiculous.

    • @gtflips
      @gtflips  Місяць тому

      you are right, the amount of work for a water pump is ridiculous and when it fails, the coolant leaks right into your engine. I feel bad for ppl who are not mechanically inclined because the stories I've heard. Some dealerships don't even bother wanting to fix it, they say you need a new engine.

  • @daniellarson4415
    @daniellarson4415 3 місяці тому +1

    Hey guys, I'm about to jump into this project myself. Do you know how to tell if the motors damaged or done for before I do anything?

    • @daniellarson4415
      @daniellarson4415 3 місяці тому +1

      Yes I liked and subscribed because you did a great job on this video. very nice

    • @gtflips
      @gtflips  3 місяці тому

      @@daniellarson4415 the biggest concern would be have you overheated your engine? Becuase then you can run into the headgaskets failing from overheating. If you didnt overheat it and the engine is the running smooth then im pretty sure your engine is good to go. But if you did overheat your engine you can do a leak down/combustion test.

    • @daniellarson4415
      @daniellarson4415 3 місяці тому

      @@gtflips It wasn't my car. I bought it cheap as a no-run and realized it had coolant in the oil pan. I couldn't start it so I'm wondering if it's gone. I would've felt better if it started. I can do the water pump and the head gasket, just a lot of time and money if there's something I'm overlooking. Just asking for tips to be watching out for.

  • @manny8633
    @manny8633 Рік тому +1

    That's a lot of work. Great video. How many miles do you have in this CX9 when this happened?

    • @gtflips
      @gtflips  Рік тому +3

      Its seems like alot but its not tht bad. The first time, I ever did this it was overwhelming, Now i can have this done in a couple of hours. This one had 160k miles.

    • @drnotebook
      @drnotebook 8 місяців тому

      @gtflips. It is a great video by the way. It made me decide to attempt to do the job myself. I don't have the tools or a convenient shop to do the job in cold weather.

    • @raymondbaldonado3563
      @raymondbaldonado3563 5 місяців тому

      ​@@gtflipswhere are you located, I need you to do mine

  • @edgars8585
    @edgars8585 Рік тому +7

    Actually it was Ford engineering that decide to put the pump in the engine.

    • @ChrisB-cx6td
      @ChrisB-cx6td Рік тому

      Doubt it

    • @edgars8585
      @edgars8585 Рік тому +2

      @@ChrisB-cx6td hello Ford Taurus, Edge and Flex is not enough proof

    • @ChrisB-cx6td
      @ChrisB-cx6td Рік тому

      @@edgars8585 no

    • @edgars8585
      @edgars8585 Рік тому

      @@ChrisB-cx6td No what? Idiot,

    • @bry84guy
      @bry84guy 9 місяців тому +1

      @@ChrisB-cx6td that is 100% a ford engine...

  • @kldkrazylildaddy
    @kldkrazylildaddy 5 місяців тому

    What toque spec did you use for the camshaft sprocket bolts ?

  • @jasonm3960
    @jasonm3960 11 місяців тому

    Thank You!

  • @robertwhite4941
    @robertwhite4941 Рік тому +1

    Why did you pull the cv? have yet to figure that out yet?

    • @gtflips
      @gtflips  Рік тому

      Get the power steering pump out and the access the bolts easier

  • @roostersideburns3440
    @roostersideburns3440 Рік тому +1

    2009 was still the era of ford/mazda wasnt it?

  • @deborahcross5387
    @deborahcross5387 Рік тому +2

    my CX9 has 235K miles on it.... Is it worth spending the money to have that done?

    • @gtflips
      @gtflips  Рік тому +2

      It depends, if you keep your CX9 well maintained, my first ever CX9 had 200k miles when I redid it. And it lasted until 280k miles. Its a good car but it does have tht fatal flaw of the coolant mixing with the oil. Also if you know someone who is able to do it, the better. Where Im located the dealer quoted me 1900 for it to be done. I did it myself and only spent 300 dollars on parts.

    • @deborahcross5387
      @deborahcross5387 Рік тому +1

      @@gtflips Wow! I was Quoted $2,800.00.... I'm in Chattanooga. Wish you were here

    • @gtflips
      @gtflips  Рік тому +2

      @@deborahcross5387 WOW, thats taking advantage of the customer, I wish I was too you would definitely help you out. Ask family and friends if they know any good mechanics. 2800 is ridiculous, the job isnt as hard as they make it seem.

    • @deborahcross5387
      @deborahcross5387 Рік тому

      @@gtflips I will do just that until I find someone who can fix it much cheaper than the 2800. Thank God I have another car.
      Thank you so much for your input and response

  • @TheRyanChannel
    @TheRyanChannel 2 місяці тому

    Hey where you located?

  • @blue52851
    @blue52851 4 місяці тому +4

    It's not Mazda who designed this engine. This is Ford. I agree this design is terrible.

  • @MattDavison-y6b
    @MattDavison-y6b 14 днів тому +1

    What's up GT! Hey man I just wanted to reach out and let you know i appreciated the fuck out of this video bro. My ol ladies water pump just shit the fucking bed and you're the only mother fucker that made a decent video for the repair. You're the shit.
    I had one question though, where did you pick up those cam lock brackets to time it? I've only ever used the slot style bars and I can't fuckin find those brackets anywhere to get this thing timed.
    Thankshome! !

    • @gtflips
      @gtflips  14 днів тому

      @@MattDavison-y6b whats up man, appreciate the feedback !
      I picked up tht tool off of amazon, here is the link.
      BETOOLL Camshaft Holding Tool - Timing Tool Kit - Timing Alignment Holder Tool Compatible with 303-1248 303-1530 Ford 3.5L & 3.7L 4V, with Cylinder Head Screw Removal Socket a.co/d/dALQdqe

    • @MattDavison-y6b
      @MattDavison-y6b 14 днів тому

      Badass dude. Can't tell you enough how much I appreciate a good tutorial video. You did all the hard work and made my life a whole hell of a lot easier man. FOMOCO is a bunch of douche conoes.
      Thanks again my dude. Keep on keeping on!

  • @ChristopherPisz
    @ChristopherPisz 10 місяців тому +3

    Junked my mazda 6s cause of this problem. Out 6-7k worth of car. it only had 80,000 miles on it. Now I have to buy a new car with new job, in an economy where it is uncertain whether I will even get a job in the next year.

    • @gtflips
      @gtflips  10 місяців тому

      sorry to hear that man, yea the water pump design is flawed, I hope you find something !

    • @jake3700
      @jake3700 10 місяців тому

      i almost did the exact same with mine 2 months ago when i had the fateful coolant-oil mix at 225,000 miles. don't know if it was ever serviced for the water pump in the past but i'm in the process of getting the timing cover off now. how much did you get for it?

    • @ChristopherPisz
      @ChristopherPisz 10 місяців тому

      I gave it away to a dude to practice his mechanic skills on. Junkers wouldn't offer more than 500, and no one is gonna buy it in that shape that I could find. One coolant runs through the engine oil, it's pretty much over unless you want to fix it yourself, from what I could tell. @@jake3700

    • @drnotebook
      @drnotebook 8 місяців тому +2

      I am getting quotes of $700 for salvage sale of my car. I paid $29,000 for it used 12 years ago with 18,000 miles. Now it has 81,000 miles. I had at least three other major repairs costing $1200 to $2200 each. Transmission, transfer case, tie rods, brake calipers 3X, and other major repairs.
      The dealers are not helpful except to get you into another repair trap.
      Mazda is a Crap car.

    • @jake3700
      @jake3700 Місяць тому

      i was able to get it fixed and fully functional after a couple months for 3000ish miles, now i'm onto the front suspension.
      the water pump part was dated 2015 so the oem pump was likely replaced around 100-110k miles as my car is a 2010 with 225k miles at the time of repair. all the suspension parts have been factory dated between 2009/2010 and most of the engine internals (previous repair only changed the water pump and nothing else) this mazda has been rock solid apart from the water pump issue.

  • @stealrodripper4751
    @stealrodripper4751 4 місяці тому +1

    How many miles are on it?

    • @gtflips
      @gtflips  4 місяці тому

      It was around 160k miles. I dont remember exact.

  • @nadirnazim9342
    @nadirnazim9342 11 місяців тому

    I cant seem to find any mechanic willing to do this job. What sort of shop am I looking for? I am in Austin TX. My engine still works without any milkshake. But coolant leak through the weephole and I hear something clunking which I assume are pieces of the broken water pump.

    • @drnotebook
      @drnotebook 8 місяців тому

      Dealers in my area would not do the job. See my longer response above.
      This repair is a complicated job to fix a fundamentally defective engine design. The video author has MANY years experience with major car repairs. Water pumps regularly wear out in older cars and must be replaced in most older cars over 100,000 miles. So they are an easily replaceable part in most older cars. The fact that the Mazda CX-9 timing chain and water pump are integrated so tightly is just plain wrong!! This engine was not designed for maintainability.

  • @tiffanymartinez8159
    @tiffanymartinez8159 10 місяців тому

    My mom has a cx9, she is still paying on but hasn't been able to drive it because the water pump went out and the car wont crank, Do you think she will need a new motor?

    • @gtflips
      @gtflips  10 місяців тому

      Its hard to diagnose without actually being there. Has the car been sitting? Its could be a weak battery, do you hear the starter engaging? When the waterpump broke, did you continue to drive it with a broken pump?

    • @tiffanymartinez8159
      @tiffanymartinez8159 10 місяців тому

      Well to be honest im not sure. She caled me and said the car wouldnt crank and when i helped her get the car to her house ( I literlly pushed it with my tribute because it was less than a mile away. ) i notice there was no coolant in the resavor so i added some after the car was cooled down and the coolant just fell to the ground. Its been sitting every since. The mazda place wants 15,000 for a new motor and putting it in. Just trying to find the best solution as to what to do because she needs a car. There is water in the oil. The starter does engage. It acts like it wants to crank and then just shuts down.

    • @tiffanymartinez8159
      @tiffanymartinez8159 10 місяців тому

      Oh and the mazda place said she would need a new motor but i wasnt sure if they were saying that because they saw water in the oil or what.

    • @tiffanymartinez8159
      @tiffanymartinez8159 10 місяців тому +2

      Also you did a great job on the video. I got a lot from it!

    • @gtflips
      @gtflips  10 місяців тому +1

      @@tiffanymartinez8159 well if the water pump just broke and the motor wasnt overheated its savable. This mazda in the video had a leaking pump for months. The lady just kept adding water.
      Are you close to CT?

  • @roberthart9886
    @roberthart9886 5 місяців тому +1

    What is the small reservoir ?

    • @gtflips
      @gtflips  5 місяців тому +1

      The power steering fluid

    • @roberthart9886
      @roberthart9886 5 місяців тому

      @@gtflips Im about to get a 2012 with Jasper V6 with $5K miles on it, but curious to investigate all issues down the road, so I really appreciate your in depth video. Thank goodness I won't need water pump, timing chain, spark plugs... for a long time

  • @rudebloke1
    @rudebloke1 Місяць тому

    36:13 : girly fumes Lol.

  • @emanuelparker2744
    @emanuelparker2744 5 місяців тому +1

    How can I contact this guy

    • @gtflips
      @gtflips  5 місяців тому

      Whats going on?

  • @biocomputers7076
    @biocomputers7076 3 місяці тому

    its just too much every time , just get an older car, they kept junkyards going until recently, poor families used to vacation yearly in a Chevy station wagon from New York to California without breaking down, loaded every seat and the roof

  • @b1maxc135
    @b1maxc135 Рік тому +1

    ridiculous design for a waterpump. at least have a better design waterpump .

    • @drnotebook
      @drnotebook 8 місяців тому

      Defective. Flawed. Not designed for maintainability.

  • @Jedi_Luke
    @Jedi_Luke 8 місяців тому

    And this is why Mazdas are junk. Never buy a car that doesn't have easy access to wear and tear parts like the water pump.

    • @alexsolivan4346
      @alexsolivan4346 7 місяців тому +1

      It's literally a Ford engine

    • @Jedi_Luke
      @Jedi_Luke 7 місяців тому

      @@alexsolivan4346 Ford=junk

  • @trainer008
    @trainer008 9 місяців тому

    My 2011 CX9 had 171k miles it just went 3 days ago. I opened the hood and saw the coolant empty and I knew from there. Called a tow truck it started up drove it up to the tow truck , shut it off pulled it up. Got it back to my place , quick start to park it. I hope the motor is safe and undamaged. Thoughts please?
    I bought this 8 months ago , replaced all brakes , rotors, drained , replaced all fluids , coils, spark plugs. ADVICE .. @GTFLIPS

    • @gtflips
      @gtflips  9 місяців тому +1

      It depends, did the motor overheat at all and how long were you driving without coolant, if you havent had any issues regarding that then you should be fine. this specific mazda we had, waterpump was leaking for months and the girl we fixed it for just keep adding water, we redid everything, gave it a couple of coolant and oil flushes to get all the gunk out. now it drives around no problem.

    • @drnotebook
      @drnotebook 8 місяців тому +1

      Get it running if repairs are less than $1000, then sell it.