Love my 5” prodigy, I’ve done several upgrades. 1. Egw extended slide release. /Ordered/ installed. $50. 2. Oversized amb safety/ Dawson Precision. $150, gunsmith $40 3. Atlas trigger & shoe $65 4. Dawson tooless guiderod/Ordered/installed. $100 5. 9:45 EGW mag release. $36 6. Replaced green fiber optic with red on front sight. Running Hollosun red dot. I love this gun, it is a nail driver. Zero issues. I would carry this as a duty SWAT and Patrol pistol every day! 👍🏻
I applaud your entire approach to this pistol. You have been honest and just factual vs the typical buzz word soup that most EwwTubers use to put together the fast media for clicks. Good job and excited to see the next chapter!
I bought a 4.25” Prodigy about a year ago and have put close to 2,000 rounds through it. I put 1,000 rounds through it bone stock and then sent it to Skips Gunz for the EGW ignition kit, Atlas flat trigger, 8 lb recoil spring and buffer and fully tuned and its even better now and it’s been perfectly reliable the entire time. It’s my favorite pistol that I own!
Great review!! I bought my 5 inch within the first month of release. First range trip of 400 rnds I had about 12 to 15 failure to go into battery. Tap the back of the slide and it was fine. I kept oiling it while shooting. After the first range trip I bought the one piece Dawson Precision guide rob with a 10 lb spring. No issues since and I'm at 1600 rnds to date. The gun is a dream to shoot and very accurate! Almost like cheating!! Once again great review and love the channel!
Excellent review. Beautiful quality handgun. $1200 The Staccato with the plastic trigger and outrageous prices. Prefer the design of the Prodigy. I'll put aftermarket parts $250. And make it my own. Plus you have to love the steel slide and frame. Heavy but accurate. And easy to shoot. Waiting on the holidays to see if price drops. PEACE
I bought the 5in probably a little over a year ago. It would not chamber rounds properly so was basically a expensive paper weight..... so contacted springfield and they had me send it in. They Had it for about 4 weeks and now its worked like a champ with 0 issues. Not sure what they did but Springfields customer service was awesome. I own several brands of firearms (h&k, sig, arma lite, etc) and own 4 other springfield pistols one being a elite 10mm and had 0 issues. Own a springfield hellion with 0 issues. So the 2011 was only one i had issues with, but they took care of me and so they're still an option when shopping for a gun for me
I got the 4.25 a few months after the initial release, I had seen a lot of mixed reviews and was a bit skeptical but I am a Springfield fan and Ive wanted a 2011 for a while so I decided to try it. Im 1300rds in and not a single problem. I did change the guide rod for a one piece and I just ordered the extended slide stop, and I have added a Holosun red dot. Everything else is stock, it's a great gun and I am glad I picked one up. No regrets here. Great review.
Great review! I have a newer one , and have had the same success . I’ve tried everything under the sun to get it to malfunction and it just eats. If your someone like me that has never handled a 2011 before hand . The 4.25 prodigy is the best shooting handgun I ever owned …. Overall I prefer it over my g34 and trp operator
I will say I shot the 1911 DS (both the 5” and the 4.25”) at a range unveiling event and they had nothing but problems. Now that being said it was the unveiling of the gun so it was literally the first batch they made and there’s no telling how many rounds were through the gun without cleaning before I shot them. They were very sticky like they had lots of carbon build up in the slide. Aside from that the gun was pretty comfortable to shoot, trigger wasn’t bad recoil was soft, gun had moderate texture that provided sufficient grip. I was not a fan of the controls on the gun (that can be changed through the aftermarket). I didn’t have nearly the amount of time behind these guns as this review, so I’d say this review is a pretty good representation of how the gun actually works over time
I bought my Prodigy 4.25" on the first run of them in September. I really like the pistol, BUT, it's back at Springfield for warranty for the 3rd time. Each time I've filed a warranty claim I've also sent them pictures or video of the pistol malfunctioning. And I run my other 2011's and Double stacks without experiencing the issues I'm experiencing with the Prodigy. I'm glad at least the subsequent versions of the pistol seem to be working as expected.
Hey Jeff I bought the 4.25 for my wife and was going to purchase the 5" for myself but after hearing about all the problems I figured I'd wait until Springfield gets them sorted out and it looks like they have so I'm gonna get one real soon with an x300 B it looks nice on the 5 inch. Thanks alot for your review great work as always.
Anytime. I appreciate the support. Couples that shoot together stay together. I know there were was a batch of guns that had some issues in the QC process. I have had both of mine since the release. As of late I personally have not had or of any new issues. I think you will be just fine picking up a 5".
Thank you for taking the time to make these videos. I totally agree with you 100% some bad batches come out of a company but that does not mark them as all trash. Like PSA came out with their sabre dagger and some were flawed but not all were trash. Just wanted to thank you for making good informative content we need more of that on the web.
i got the 5" prodigy without the hex, shot 700 rounds 124 gr wirh 2 failure to feed and 1 slide didn't lock on the last round, shot another 600 rounds 124 gr without any issues, shot another 700 rounds 124 gr with 1 failure to feed, great gun, great price, will buy the 4.25 soon
Upgrading the Prodigy is definitely worth it. I prefer tuning my 5” prodigy to my Staccato p in steel challenge. Mine has had the works, v8 ports almost entirely eliminated recoil, lighting cuts on the slide, 2.5# glass rod trigger the gun runs. I will say mine was a problematic one at first nothing major all easy fixes at home, it was a first day launch gun. My duramags were horribly out of spec (atlas gun works recommended spec) mine did have cycling issues only on 147 FP once mags were tuned they ran 147FP fine. I still prefer the build quality of staccato mags. I want to try a metal grip module for mine also, but as of now my prodigy runs amazing, my favorite gun, even compared to some of my zev Glocks, open Glocks, compensated FN 509s, none of them run as fast or flat as that Prodigy. I will 100% admit I bought it with the full intention of shit posting it and how it was swish app staccato but quickly had a change of heart after I really started running it.
In the last two years Springfield has brought out two iconic, (starting to hate that term), single action guns, their rendering of the Browning High Power, the SA-35, and of course the Prodigy. Both had issues, but it appears that the first batch of beta testing has allowed them to work out the issues on both platforms. Solid review, and for what it is worth, you don’t come close to putting out a shill vibe.😎✌️
The only problem I’ve had with mine is my hex dragonfly coming loose (probably my fault for not cleaning the lock tight off and putting my own on) other than that the pistol is amazing feels buttery smooth (550 rounds through the gun). I can’t wait to start upgrading parts as needed. Great vid thanks for the info.
I have a 15 thousand round 4.25 prodigy if you wanna look at it. Fast an flawless. Nothing is stock in mine. I even tig welded the little hole on the barrel an machined it down. Only problem I have is the rmr mount comes loose.
Bought a used one, its currently coming in still but looking up to see what can go wrong, issues, and so on for this pistol. I'm hoping the reason why the person sold the gun was just for money and not for any issues with it.
Thanks for the update. Seems like most of the current production versions are running better. Haven’t picked up many 2011’s and only shot one Staccato, but for the price the Prodigy is VERY tempting. It’s between that and a P226 Legion SAO.
I would prob go Legion for now. Prodigy looks like an awesome base gun though, if done right could be upgraded at less money than a Staccato out the door.
@@TheRancor53 Leaning towards the Legion as I started shooting with P-Series Sigs but have never owned a 9mm P226. But yeah if going the Prodigy route my thought was getting work done to tune it/customize it if I ended up having issues and still likely be less than a Staccato. And even if exceeded, I’d have something customized to my liking. Guess the answer is both, lol, just a matter of which is first.
I recently sold my SAO Legion (P220). If you like a 1911 trigger, the SAO legion doesn’t quite cut it. Otherwise, they’re fantastic from my experience with them.
My 4.25 ran like poop until the 500rd mark. 1800 rounds later, it got sent out because the fiber optic rod flew out. Rear optic plate kept getting loose, FTF, and failure to extract. Between the 500rd mark and 1800rd mark. I was head over heels for it and still am. Can’t wait to get her back from Springfield 😭
I am trading my sig p229 for a prot 4.25 tomorrow. I shot my instructors last week and have been waiting since last week for tomorrow to come. That pistol showed me all the hype of a 2011 ds. I wanted a staccoto c2 or cs and just can't drop that money. I then shoot and compared the staccot c2 to the prodigy and was like dame the prodigy shoot better and looks a hell of alot better then the staccoto. I was blown away. Unreal job springfiled I mean wow. You built my dream pistol . Initially think the prodigy 4.25 is the sexest best looking pistol even over those atlas 2011.i am going to do my first upgrade tomorrow when I purchased it. That's a magwell
Appreciate your content Jeff. Always informative and straight to the point. Bought a Smith and Wesson MP 2.0 Metal after watching your review and its been amazing.
they lightened the slide on the inside of the newer ones... not sure if they changed anything else. Dave at DSC Gunworks cuts the slides on the 5" and does an island comp on them like a staccato XC.. but only on the early ones, without the lightening cuts on the inside.. that's the only reason i know this.. he has pics on his site, showing the difference. he also offers a de-MIM service as well
The primary problem I have seen with these is the disconnector. The tension and shape of the bevel causes a hangup on the breach face when returning to battery. I immediately performed an old technique of radiusing and ramping the disconnector rail on the slide. Basically the "Marvel cut". Usually with a 1911 (especially service grade models) the slide will wear in a groove to better mate to the disconnector over time. But the sharpness of the breech combined with the hardness of the forged slide will make it harder to break in. So a jewelers file and a sharpie marker to mark the contact point of the disconnector is all you need to make a ramp for the disconnector to easily slide up the rail. Once done not a single issue in 1500 rounds. Maybe a Lessing of disconnector spring tension will have a similar effect without grooving the slide. The side effects from this issue will include, failure to go into battery, failure to feed due to decreased slide velocity and loss of accuracy due to weak lockup.
I've got both with 5k on one and 4k on the other and the 4.25 is a better gun as far as slide to frame fit but the 5 inch is the better shooter. That extra weight just makes for an effortless shooting experience.
I want that 4.25" prodigy but my brain says to get the p365 Legion instead... Decisions. I think if I KNEW I was getting a perfect one I would go Prodigy. Springfield support told me all new ones have the fixes in place. That they stopped production ~2mo to get things fixed....which is why I keep going back and forth. Purpose is off body carry with optic.
I feel the issues that occurred was a limited batch. With the amount of safariland holsters we sell for the prodigy the issues have been resolved. I am not 100% sure the price of the new macro is inline with what you are getting. The standard macro works great. And you can always upgrade the frame later.
@@rdrgear I think you may be right. My wife struggles to rack my p365 and gets frustrated when trying to show her other ways to rack the slide but the 4.25" Prodigy she was able to do quite easily. It was about the 10-12mo mark of the P365 release when I chose to get my sample and it has been flawless all these years. I guess I may do the same gamble on the Springfield. The thing I like about the p365 legion is that it is turnkey and 17rd mags will work on my p365 too. The added weight will hopefully allow my wife to feel comfortable practicing with it too. Plus being turnkey, will save me time from the rabbit hole of researching mods. Heart says Prodigy but mind says Legion. We'll see which wins out lol
Thank you for the review. I ended up uploading a fix for the mag issue that fixed my Prodigy and 3 others of both sizes. Real shame Springfield used a 3rd party company for the mags because just fixing the feed ramps cleared 90% of their issues when I talked to a rep. I just broke the bank on a Laugo Alien and uploading that soon to my channel "RackinCrew". I am hoping to start doing comparison videos soon and reviewing some edc gear. Thanks again.
Enjoy the channel and I have the 4.25 DS, I'm just curious when people talk about the weight of the gun for everyday carry. I'm 68, with one lung and it's not heavy and unless you stick a light on it (and depending on the light and optic), it's the holster weight with the gun to accommodate the two addon's that make it cumbersome as an OWB. Add those to your normal Glock 19 and it's not that much different and you want some weight (at least I do). If this gun has too much weight for EDC then you just need to get a Glock and leave it at that. Any DS is going to have additional weight unless you carry it without ammo. I love mine. I think it's tunned well considering it's not a race gun but I'd have no problem running it in comp if I was younger. No disrespect intended. Your learning curve is well above mine I just wanted to comment with a different opinion. I own a number of handguns and rifles none of which are cheap. From a Shadow 2 to my Glock each of the 8 guns (and I love 1911's) run like scared cats. Thank you for having great content. I am subbing
Valid points. Weight and size of gun will always be a preference. For me. I often carry a single stack pistol. If I can't get it done with 8-10 rounds. It's a rough day.
The biggest thing that’s got me on the fence is. The gun has been out close to a year now and wondering if they’ve worked out the kinks. Just like what Jeff said, possibility of a bad batch, especially early on when the gun first comes out. Lots of new guns will always have some kind of flaws but get worked out as the year goes by
Apparently they've rectified the issue, but you can still do what others have. A lot of people found it was an issue with the cerakote. People started racking them a bunch then cleaning and racking a bunch then cleaning and repeat until they weren't getting dirty lube after racking. About 1k-2k racks. Also it helps with spring settle and some of the other mim parts smoothing out. Then they'd have zero issues
they lightened the slide on the newer ones.. you can only tell by taking the slide off and looking at the inside.. not sure if anything else was changed
I just bought the 4.25" and had to send it to SA. To give reference my SN is in the 50k range. Still enjoy it except the battery and failure to feed issues. The recommended fixes work but I'd rather it be flawless out the box and OEM.
I picked up a 4.25 model and 6 additional duramags a couple of weeks ago. 500 rounds through it so far with zero malfunctions and I’m also using the duramags in my Staccato with zero issues.
The newer models after the first 2000 or so serial numbers have been fine. Seems they fixed the spring issue and not going into battery issue. I've had no issues with mine. And mine is stock. Got the optic that comes in the box. Love it. Still want a Staccato tho.
Love mine. Over 2k through it. I gutted mine, and used mostly EGW parts. Consider sending the frame to Darkside Precision. Unreal texture service. And super affordable.
I am glad to see them work well for you. Maybe more companies will put out good 2011s under $2k. Maybe even sub $1k, there REALLY shouldn't be much markup over a comparable 1911.
There are more parts to 2011 then a 1911. Magazine, grip modules etc. the 1500.00 msrp entry price of the 1911DS is pretty fair. Not sure if can get get any lower
@rdrgear my 5 inch Prodigy has had only one malfunction in the 1,250 rounds I've put through it. It was during the very first magazine I put through the gun. It was the factory 17 round magazine and it choked on the second round. The slide didn't go fully into battery. Was it an out of spec ammo issue? Was it because the gun wasn't fully broken in yet? Was it because of a mag issue, since even the best 2011 magazines can be a little temperamental sometimes? I don't know. But it was the only issue and I haven't had any others. I also had the 4.25 inch version, that I bought about a month after I bought my 5 inch. I put 600 rounds through it without issue. I only sold it because I preferred the way the 5 inch shot. In my opinion the bad reviews are vastly over stated. I find it hard to believe that I got lucky twice. I may pick up another 4.25 inch Prodigy sometime. Who knows? But I agree with your opinion, based on my own experiences, that the Prodigy is good to go. It may not be as nice as my Staccato P DUO but it's so close in performance and overall shooting experience, including accuracy/grouping, that it's a negligible difference at best. I still tell people that ask about entry-level 2011's to pick one up.
Had the 5in. Kept having multiple issues. Emailed Springfield. No response. Tried four, FOUR different recoil springs, and a lighter hammer spring. Tried different guide rods. Nothing worked. Still had problems. It only made it through two mags without a malfunction, and that's because it was DRENCHED in oil. I've never had that many problems out of a 9mm 1911 platform. I think I'll just stick to single stack 9mm 1911s... Lord knows I can't afford a Staccato. Traded it off for a Ruger PCC and a Henry lever action. Never been happier to get rid of that piece of crap. For $1,300, get a Sig 226 Legion SAO. Not the Prodigy...
People didn't know the guns came dirty from Springfield mine did the slide had to be racked before shot most issues was simple but most people ran to the range and 1911 if dirty sometimes don't run good so if you didn't clean it and it came dirty imagine your range out come would be bad experience
I thought that was a great review, I bought a 5 inch DS used that had to have a new seer put in because the gun was going full auto, I just shot an IDPA match, 250 rounds not one malfunction with reloads, 147gn w/3.1gn green dot.
I can’t imagine both pistols had zero issues. I have one that is back at Springfield for the second time and it was the worst thing I’ve ever bought. First range trip I cleaned and lubed it. Got through 50 rounds but took about 150 attempts bc all I had was feeding issues. I literally never had 3 successive rounds without failure Sent it to Springfield and about 8 weeks later I take it out again. Much better It now has 2-3 failures per magazine. Even bought a $70 Staccato mag thinking that would help- it didn’t. Sent it back and now I wait. I bought a Bul Armory SAS Tac II and have about 200-300 rounds and it’s been perfect. It is by far my favorite gun.
Not saying some guns did not have issues. I won’t huy a BA pistol because of the proprietary mags. I have run every 2011 mag on market through both guns. I am also curious what ammo people were using
What about the para ordnance p12 or the sig p229 and 226. Prior to the 2011 craze these existed. And no claim to fame of the 2011 consideration or hype. Seems to be forgotten compared to these newer iterations of the old designs.
Para was pretty low end. 229 triggers were rough. 226 is still a very popular pistol. Its just apples to oranges when comparing to a 1911 double stack pistol.
I do not buy a pistol within the first year. Issues will inevitably crop up. This issue was the internals. The disconnector especially. I just bought one in January 24, and have had no issues. However, it will be going to my gunsmith for mods. If you just want a good shooter, then buy it. Atlas and Staccato mags work great. Gun butter is good, but look at what Wilson, Infinity or Atlas recommend and use. If it is used in a $6000.00 pistol you know its good. They should not build up residue with time and heat.
I guess what gripes me the most about the Prodigy is they must have known there would be problems before the release to the public; essentially making their customers part of their R&D department. Harbor Freight is another example where customers are used in that manner. I'll buy some stuff at Harbor Freight just because their prices are fair, but while some of their products are good and a good value there are plenty of things (compressors, nail guns, powered hand tools, etc.) that I won't consider because value goes out the window when they don't function. In Harbor Freight's defense, I will say they seem to watch what is returned and why so they can improve.
No different the some 1911's and 2011's ending a barrel wrench to take down the slide. This is done o the work bench. Not sure what the issue is, that you are commenting on
I'm just saying, I own the Ronin and don't need any tools to field strip. Some of us out here don't buy many firearms, so the ones we do have will be used for or if SHTF. Not going to have a work bench out in the trenches or where ever hideouts we'll be in 🤯
Èbad batchÈ or not.....all civilian owned guns are eentially 'range' or 'competition' ...and if th any production gun has the odd iccup it shouldnèt be a deal breaker...writing off THAT gun from your shot-list. Could be the ammo ...as many reviewers say....even reliable good brands will have the odd wonky round in the box...can happen...hard to QC each round before they put htem i the box rightÉ :) So many factors can afafect Èthe shotÈ....beside the gun.....maybe weère 'limp wristing' and dont realize it till....or weère tired and mes up a little on the trigger pull or grip....spec of dust flies into our eyes on an outdoor range...so it doesnèt lock-back once that range session OOONOOO :) Nerd having a hisy fit.... For those that compete they are 'plinking guns' :) Competitiors are shooting at targets éstationary (that donèt shoot back) ....so they get 3rd..heh...Prodigy--bad batch...sure why ot...happened with the 2020 Colt Pythons...which they fixed immediately...no problems since in guns produced later... MY question is....are Stacatto 2011è THAT MUCH betterÉÉ :)) Really. To justify their almost Èare you nuts asking pricesÈ (Èr u nuts $È for me are the $5600 COMP 2011 by one of hte ÈcustomÈ gun companies...thereès just that one ....Ètoo rich for my blood (I canèt justify it for a range gun)È...
The problem with this gun, is you either get one that works, or a complete turd. Me and a buddy got one within 3 days of each other. His was OK, but was completely missing a front sight. But that was an easy enough fix... otherwise, it seems to be running OK. Mine, wouldn't empty a magazine without an issue. It went back and stayed there almost 2 months... Came back, and still didn't run. Back again for 5 weeks... Returned exactly the same... Now it's been back for the 3rd time for almost 2 months. I put about 75 round thru a gun that I've owned for a year, and Springfield can't seem to fix it, or replace it. When it comes home, I'm not even going to open the box... It's going on gunbroker with the backstory, and I'll take whatever I can get for it... My FFL says he's returned half of the prodigys he's sold. That was my first red flag... meh. Just save up more, and buy the Staccato. Don't take a chance on one of these... It isn't worth the headaches.
The very best thing you done is run it wet, one thing people that criticad wanted to run it out of the box without lube , every 1911 intusiast knows to run them wet
Got one day one and it was complete shit!!!! Ftf out the ass my friend got one also his also trash 1600 wasted on this piece of shit 🤦🏾♂️ I wanted to love it. When it did work it was nice I’m hoping by now they fixed the issues my friend sent his back and they fixed it and it works flawlessly this was a few weeks after we got ours
I sold my Prodigy 4.25 after only one month if owning it! It was one problem after another! My Staccato XC and my Taran Tactical Sand Viper are my babies!
Prodigy Is The Poor Man's Ferrari! Seriously you cant get into the 2011 game cheaper. So you should expect to have to tune or upgrade parts. Hell the 2011 has never been a reliable platform to Staccato say so.
Mps sucks so many have broken eps is more reliable with a better warranty. Hows that pb3 that's what I want to see I wonder what you tuber will put out a video I can trust .and who the hell carrys 2011s for carry you would iether need to be a rich fat cat or just not aware that your gun will be taken away if you actually use it in a self defense and if you think you need a gun with that many rounds and that shoots so well you probably got some tuff streets .
This gun takes way too long to completely break down. It's a no go for me just like any other 2011 unless for competition. Simplicity is a virtue imo. Thanks for sharing.
They do have a lot of parts. But a complete break down is only needed 1 a year at most. To get the performance and speed of a 2011 its well worth the extra time in maintenance. IMO
Why does the thumbnail view of this video start right off by demonstrating poor firearm handling? Why is your booger hook on the bang switch? Is this a "do as I say and not as I do" scenario?
@@rdrgear Oh... god forbid we set a good example for all the new people who might be watching this stuff. Forgive me. I thought leading by example was the way to go. I didn't realize it was as I said, do as I say and not as I do.
@@NotYourAverageCritic if your comment had context, or if i was actually being unsafe. You would have a very valid point.you simply saw a still shot taken from a shooting sequence. And assumed it was a unsafe act.
1: The photo involving the gun was taken during a live string of fire down range in a safe manner. 2: Jeff did as instructed by the photographer, myself. 3: go pause a shooting clip between two rounds. Bet your ass his finder is on the trigger. 4: imagine running around on UA-cam attempting to deteriorate the 2a community you claim to be a part of🤙🏻
Mine was an absolute paperweight. When it shot, it shot great! Very easy to hit 50m steel targets with the irons. However, that depends on the firearm functioning, and reliability is non negotiable
Love my 5” prodigy, I’ve done several upgrades.
1. Egw extended slide release. /Ordered/ installed. $50.
2. Oversized amb safety/ Dawson Precision. $150, gunsmith $40
3. Atlas trigger & shoe $65
4. Dawson tooless guiderod/Ordered/installed. $100
5. 9:45 EGW mag
release. $36
6. Replaced green fiber optic with red on front sight.
Running Hollosun red dot.
I love this gun, it is a nail driver. Zero issues. I would carry this as a duty SWAT and Patrol pistol every day! 👍🏻
What made you get the 5 over the 4.25? That’s a lot of slide/barrel.
I applaud your entire approach to this pistol. You have been honest and just factual vs the typical buzz word soup that most EwwTubers use to put together the fast media for clicks. Good job and excited to see the next chapter!
Appreciate the feed back. We work hard to achieve these types of compliments.
I’m watching every video on them to justify getting one the week
Wait until the holidays and save some $$$. Check out Palmetto state Armory, Kentucky gun, gunbroker, or grabagun. $1200
Same here 👍
Did you get one?
Me too 😂
That's what I did.
I bought a 4.25” Prodigy about a year ago and have put close to 2,000 rounds through it. I put 1,000 rounds through it bone stock and then sent it to Skips Gunz for the EGW ignition kit, Atlas flat trigger, 8 lb recoil spring and buffer and fully tuned and its even better now and it’s been perfectly reliable the entire time. It’s my favorite pistol that I own!
That’s good to know! Can I ask how much for the work done by SkipsGunz? I been thinking of getting 4.25” as well. Tia 🙏🏽
Great review!! I bought my 5 inch within the first month of release. First range trip of 400 rnds I had about 12 to 15 failure to go into battery. Tap the back of the slide and it was fine. I kept oiling it while shooting. After the first range trip I bought the one piece Dawson Precision guide rob with a 10 lb spring. No issues since and I'm at 1600 rnds to date. The gun is a dream to shoot and very accurate! Almost like cheating!! Once again great review and love the channel!
Excellent review. Beautiful quality handgun. $1200 The Staccato with the plastic trigger and outrageous prices. Prefer the design of the Prodigy. I'll put aftermarket parts $250. And make it my own. Plus you have to love the steel slide and frame. Heavy but accurate. And easy to shoot. Waiting on the holidays to see if price drops. PEACE
How is it now?
I bought the 5in probably a little over a year ago. It would not chamber rounds properly so was basically a expensive paper weight..... so contacted springfield and they had me send it in. They Had it for about 4 weeks and now its worked like a champ with 0 issues. Not sure what they did but Springfields customer service was awesome. I own several brands of firearms (h&k, sig, arma lite, etc) and own 4 other springfield pistols one being a elite 10mm and had 0 issues. Own a springfield hellion with 0 issues. So the 2011 was only one i had issues with, but they took care of me and so they're still an option when shopping for a gun for me
I got the 4.25 a few months after the initial release, I had seen a lot of mixed reviews and was a bit skeptical but I am a Springfield fan and Ive wanted a 2011 for a while so I decided to try it. Im 1300rds in and not a single problem. I did change the guide rod for a one piece and I just ordered the extended slide stop, and I have added a Holosun red dot. Everything else is stock, it's a great gun and I am glad I picked one up. No regrets here. Great review.
Great review! I have a newer one , and have had the same success . I’ve tried everything under the sun to get it to malfunction and it just eats. If your someone like me that has never handled a 2011 before hand . The 4.25 prodigy is the best shooting handgun I ever owned …. Overall I prefer it over my g34 and trp operator
I was considering either the trp operator full rail or the prodigy 5" I'm almost decided on the prodigy.
I will say I shot the 1911 DS (both the 5” and the 4.25”) at a range unveiling event and they had nothing but problems. Now that being said it was the unveiling of the gun so it was literally the first batch they made and there’s no telling how many rounds were through the gun without cleaning before I shot them. They were very sticky like they had lots of carbon build up in the slide. Aside from that the gun was pretty comfortable to shoot, trigger wasn’t bad recoil was soft, gun had moderate texture that provided sufficient grip. I was not a fan of the controls on the gun (that can be changed through the aftermarket). I didn’t have nearly the amount of time behind these guns as this review, so I’d say this review is a pretty good representation of how the gun actually works over time
I bought my Prodigy 4.25" on the first run of them in September. I really like the pistol, BUT, it's back at Springfield for warranty for the 3rd time. Each time I've filed a warranty claim I've also sent them pictures or video of the pistol malfunctioning. And I run my other 2011's and Double stacks without experiencing the issues I'm experiencing with the Prodigy. I'm glad at least the subsequent versions of the pistol seem to be working as expected.
I am interested in the Springfield so thanks for this update.
Hey Jeff I bought the 4.25 for my wife and was going to purchase the 5" for myself but after hearing about all the problems I figured I'd wait until Springfield gets them sorted out and it looks like they have so I'm gonna get one real soon with an x300 B it looks nice on the 5 inch. Thanks alot for your review great work as always.
Anytime. I appreciate the support. Couples that shoot together stay together. I know there were was a batch of guns that had some issues in the QC process. I have had both of mine since the release. As of late I personally have not had or of any new issues. I think you will be just fine picking up a 5".
Thank you for taking the time to make these videos. I totally agree with you 100% some bad batches come out of a company but that does not mark them as all trash. Like PSA came out with their sabre dagger and some were flawed but not all were trash. Just wanted to thank you for making good informative content we need more of that on the web.
i got the 5" prodigy without the hex, shot 700 rounds 124 gr wirh 2 failure to feed and 1 slide didn't lock on the last round, shot another 600 rounds 124 gr without any issues, shot another 700 rounds 124 gr with 1 failure to feed, great gun, great price, will buy the 4.25 soon
What made you get the 5 first?
Great video I just purchased the DS keep up the good work
Upgrading the Prodigy is definitely worth it. I prefer tuning my 5” prodigy to my Staccato p in steel challenge. Mine has had the works, v8 ports almost entirely eliminated recoil, lighting cuts on the slide, 2.5# glass rod trigger the gun runs.
I will say mine was a problematic one at first nothing major all easy fixes at home, it was a first day launch gun. My duramags were horribly out of spec (atlas gun works recommended spec) mine did have cycling issues only on 147 FP once mags were tuned they ran 147FP fine. I still prefer the build quality of staccato mags. I want to try a metal grip module for mine also, but as of now my prodigy runs amazing, my favorite gun, even compared to some of my zev Glocks, open Glocks, compensated FN 509s, none of them run as fast or flat as that Prodigy.
I will 100% admit I bought it with the full intention of shit posting it and how it was swish app staccato but quickly had a change of heart after I really started running it.
lightening
Good video. I have about 700 rounds through my 4.25 and have had quite a few type 1’s with the 17 round stock mag but my 20’s gave me no issues.
Thanks Brother , just seeing this video and have been thinking about the 4.25 model. This just helped me decide.
So you are going to get one or not.
In the last two years Springfield has brought out two iconic, (starting to hate that term), single action guns, their rendering of the Browning High Power, the SA-35, and of course the Prodigy. Both had issues, but it appears that the first batch of beta testing has allowed them to work out the issues on both platforms.
Solid review, and for what it is worth, you don’t come close to putting out a shill vibe.😎✌️
Good honest review i liked the format and content. Thank you
Outstanding review buddy
Love your videos, and I think you have a great philosophy for why you make them.
I try to do my best. Thank you for the compliment.
I have over 3,000 rounds through my 4.25” with zero issues aside from the optics plate coming loose 3 times.
Always appreciate your content . 👍🏻
Thank you for watching Mikey!!!
The only problem I’ve had with mine is my hex dragonfly coming loose (probably my fault for not cleaning the lock tight off and putting my own on) other than that the pistol is amazing feels buttery smooth (550 rounds through the gun). I can’t wait to start upgrading parts as needed. Great vid thanks for the info.
I have a 15 thousand round 4.25 prodigy if you wanna look at it. Fast an flawless.
Nothing is stock in mine. I even tig welded the little hole on the barrel an machined it down. Only problem I have is the rmr mount comes loose.
Bought a used one, its currently coming in still but looking up to see what can go wrong, issues, and so on for this pistol. I'm hoping the reason why the person sold the gun was just for money and not for any issues with it.
Thanks
I've enjoyed mine. Haven't had an issue yet but only a few hundred rounds in.
Thanks for the update. Seems like most of the current production versions are running better. Haven’t picked up many 2011’s and only shot one Staccato, but for the price the Prodigy is VERY tempting. It’s between that and a P226 Legion SAO.
I would prob go Legion for now. Prodigy looks like an awesome base gun though, if done right could be upgraded at less money than a Staccato out the door.
@@TheRancor53 Leaning towards the Legion as I started shooting with P-Series Sigs but have never owned a 9mm P226. But yeah if going the Prodigy route my thought was getting work done to tune it/customize it if I ended up having issues and still likely be less than a Staccato. And even if exceeded, I’d have something customized to my liking. Guess the answer is both, lol, just a matter of which is first.
I recently sold my SAO Legion (P220). If you like a 1911 trigger, the SAO legion doesn’t quite cut it. Otherwise, they’re fantastic from my experience with them.
My 4.25 ran like poop until the 500rd mark. 1800 rounds later, it got sent out because the fiber optic rod flew out. Rear optic plate kept getting loose, FTF, and failure to extract. Between the 500rd mark and 1800rd mark. I was head over heels for it and still am. Can’t wait to get her back from Springfield 😭
Great video I am getting one now for my birthday. Which do you prefer 4 or 5 inch?
I am trading my sig p229 for a prot 4.25 tomorrow. I shot my instructors last week and have been waiting since last week for tomorrow to come. That pistol showed me all the hype of a 2011 ds. I wanted a staccoto c2 or cs and just can't drop that money. I then shoot and compared the staccot c2 to the prodigy and was like dame the prodigy shoot better and looks a hell of alot better then the staccoto. I was blown away. Unreal job springfiled I mean wow. You built my dream pistol . Initially think the prodigy 4.25 is the sexest best looking pistol even over those atlas 2011.i am going to do my first upgrade tomorrow when I purchased it. That's a magwell
I think you will find on a 4.25 gun and after a few range sessions you won’t need a mag well. Your first upgrade should be more magazines.
Appreciate your content Jeff. Always informative and straight to the point. Bought a Smith and Wesson MP 2.0 Metal after watching your review and its been amazing.
The 2.0 metal is so nice! Deserved way more hype on my opinion. Heard it had a little more felt recoil due to the metal frame
I just ran 2000 rounds today zero issues! It's the palmetto ammo too!! 115g
they lightened the slide on the inside of the newer ones... not sure if they changed anything else. Dave at DSC Gunworks cuts the slides on the 5" and does an island comp on them like a staccato XC.. but only on the early ones, without the lightening cuts on the inside.. that's the only reason i know this.. he has pics on his site, showing the difference. he also offers a de-MIM service as well
The AOS cut enough makes these stand out in the entry/mid tier 2011s.
Just bought a 5” abd shot it this weekend and it was excellent!
Happy for you. I am seeing the growth as well
With how many holsters we out out.
The primary problem I have seen with these is the disconnector. The tension and shape of the bevel causes a hangup on the breach face when returning to battery. I immediately performed an old technique of radiusing and ramping the disconnector rail on the slide. Basically the "Marvel cut". Usually with a 1911 (especially service grade models) the slide will wear in a groove to better mate to the disconnector over time. But the sharpness of the breech combined with the hardness of the forged slide will make it harder to break in. So a jewelers file and a sharpie marker to mark the contact point of the disconnector is all you need to make a ramp for the disconnector to easily slide up the rail. Once done not a single issue in 1500 rounds. Maybe a Lessing of disconnector spring tension will have a similar effect without grooving the slide. The side effects from this issue will include, failure to go into battery, failure to feed due to decreased slide velocity and loss of accuracy due to weak lockup.
I've got both with 5k on one and 4k on the other and the 4.25 is a better gun as far as slide to frame fit but the 5 inch is the better shooter. That extra weight just makes for an effortless shooting experience.
I want that 4.25" prodigy but my brain says to get the p365 Legion instead... Decisions. I think if I KNEW I was getting a perfect one I would go Prodigy. Springfield support told me all new ones have the fixes in place. That they stopped production ~2mo to get things fixed....which is why I keep going back and forth. Purpose is off body carry with optic.
I feel the issues that occurred was a limited batch. With the amount of safariland holsters we sell for the prodigy the issues have been resolved.
I am not 100% sure the price of the new macro is inline with what you are getting. The standard macro works great. And you can always upgrade the frame later.
@@rdrgear I think you may be right. My wife struggles to rack my p365 and gets frustrated when trying to show her other ways to rack the slide but the 4.25" Prodigy she was able to do quite easily.
It was about the 10-12mo mark of the P365 release when I chose to get my sample and it has been flawless all these years. I guess I may do the same gamble on the Springfield.
The thing I like about the p365 legion is that it is turnkey and 17rd mags will work on my p365 too. The added weight will hopefully allow my wife to feel comfortable practicing with it too. Plus being turnkey, will save me time from the rabbit hole of researching mods. Heart says Prodigy but mind says Legion. We'll see which wins out lol
How can you tell if the 1911 DS you bought was from that bad batch?
Thank you for the review. I ended up uploading a fix for the mag issue that fixed my Prodigy and 3 others of both sizes. Real shame Springfield used a 3rd party company for the mags because just fixing the feed ramps cleared 90% of their issues when I talked to a rep. I just broke the bank on a Laugo Alien and uploading that soon to my channel "RackinCrew". I am hoping to start doing comparison videos soon and reviewing some edc gear. Thanks again.
What is your opinion on the Prodigy vs Live Free Armory Apollo 11 compact (commander)? I'm on the fence about the one to buy. Great review by the way!
Enjoy the channel and I have the 4.25 DS, I'm just curious when people talk about the weight of the gun for everyday carry. I'm 68, with one lung and it's not heavy and unless you stick a light on it (and depending on the light and optic), it's the holster weight with the gun to accommodate the two addon's that make it cumbersome as an OWB. Add those to your normal Glock 19 and it's not that much different and you want some weight (at least I do).
If this gun has too much weight for EDC then you just need to get a Glock and leave it at that. Any DS is going to have additional weight unless you carry it without ammo.
I love mine. I think it's tunned well considering it's not a race gun but I'd have no problem running it in comp if I was younger.
No disrespect intended. Your learning curve is well above mine I just wanted to comment with a different opinion.
I own a number of handguns and rifles none of which are cheap. From a Shadow 2 to my Glock each of the 8 guns (and I love 1911's) run like scared cats.
Thank you for having great content. I am subbing
Valid points. Weight and size of gun will always be a preference. For me. I often carry a single stack pistol. If I can't get it done with 8-10 rounds. It's a rough day.
May give the prodigy a second look. As you said, 1st batch had problems, looks like thing have gotten better. Good review.
Appreciate you. From the comments coming from other owners and the number of holsters we put out monthly. It’s definitely growing on folks.
The biggest thing that’s got me on the fence is. The gun has been out close to a year now and wondering if they’ve worked out the kinks. Just like what Jeff said, possibility of a bad batch, especially early on when the gun first comes out. Lots of new guns will always have some kind of flaws but get worked out as the year goes by
Apparently they've rectified the issue, but you can still do what others have.
A lot of people found it was an issue with the cerakote.
People started racking them a bunch then cleaning and racking a bunch then cleaning and repeat until they weren't getting dirty lube after racking. About 1k-2k racks. Also it helps with spring settle and some of the other mim parts smoothing out. Then they'd have zero issues
they lightened the slide on the newer ones.. you can only tell by taking the slide off and looking at the inside.. not sure if anything else was changed
I just bought the 4.25" and had to send it to SA. To give reference my SN is in the 50k range. Still enjoy it except the battery and failure to feed issues. The recommended fixes work but I'd rather it be flawless out the box and OEM.
I picked up a 4.25 model and 6 additional duramags a couple of weeks ago. 500 rounds through it so far with zero malfunctions and I’m also using the duramags in my Staccato with zero issues.
The newer models after the first 2000 or so serial numbers have been fine. Seems they fixed the spring issue and not going into battery issue. I've had no issues with mine. And mine is stock. Got the optic that comes in the box. Love it. Still want a Staccato tho.
i checked your holster lineup and didn't see an option for the prodigy?
Did you ever do a fully decked out prodigy yet?
Love mine. Over 2k through it. I gutted mine, and used mostly EGW parts. Consider sending the frame to Darkside Precision. Unreal texture service. And super affordable.
Darkside is a true OG in the 2011 stipple game.
I am glad to see them work well for you. Maybe more companies will put out good 2011s under $2k. Maybe even sub $1k, there REALLY shouldn't be much markup over a comparable 1911.
There are more parts to 2011 then a 1911. Magazine, grip modules etc. the 1500.00 msrp entry price of the 1911DS is pretty fair. Not sure if can get get any lower
@rdrgear my 5 inch Prodigy has had only one malfunction in the 1,250 rounds I've put through it. It was during the very first magazine I put through the gun. It was the factory 17 round magazine and it choked on the second round. The slide didn't go fully into battery. Was it an out of spec ammo issue? Was it because the gun wasn't fully broken in yet? Was it because of a mag issue, since even the best 2011 magazines can be a little temperamental sometimes? I don't know. But it was the only issue and I haven't had any others. I also had the 4.25 inch version, that I bought about a month after I bought my 5 inch. I put 600 rounds through it without issue. I only sold it because I preferred the way the 5 inch shot. In my opinion the bad reviews are vastly over stated. I find it hard to believe that I got lucky twice. I may pick up another 4.25 inch Prodigy sometime. Who knows? But I agree with your opinion, based on my own experiences, that the Prodigy is good to go. It may not be as nice as my Staccato P DUO but it's so close in performance and overall shooting experience, including accuracy/grouping, that it's a negligible difference at best. I still tell people that ask about entry-level 2011's to pick one up.
And there's also fewer people making those parts. Girsan was promoting their 2011 at SHOT with a starting MSRP of $999, but we've heard nothing since.
RIA has a DS 1911 thats about $800
@@captainmcfilthy8569 and its overpriced by around 700.00
Great job
Love my 4.25
Had the 5in. Kept having multiple issues. Emailed Springfield. No response. Tried four, FOUR different recoil springs, and a lighter hammer spring. Tried different guide rods. Nothing worked. Still had problems. It only made it through two mags without a malfunction, and that's because it was DRENCHED in oil.
I've never had that many problems out of a 9mm 1911 platform. I think I'll just stick to single stack 9mm 1911s... Lord knows I can't afford a Staccato.
Traded it off for a Ruger PCC and a Henry lever action. Never been happier to get rid of that piece of crap.
For $1,300, get a Sig 226 Legion SAO. Not the Prodigy...
Send it back to Springfield Armory. Be happy.
@@BaddFrogg777 They didn't respond to my emails. Traded it off for a Ruger PCC and Henry 357 lever action. I'm much happier.
People didn't know the guns came dirty from Springfield mine did the slide had to be racked before shot most issues was simple but most people ran to the range and 1911 if dirty sometimes don't run good so if you didn't clean it and it came dirty imagine your range out come would be bad experience
are u Filipino by any chance? im seeing the beteran lol. also looking into the prodigy ds. do you make holsters for it?
I thought that was a great review, I bought a 5 inch DS used that had to have a new seer put in because the gun was going full auto, I just shot an IDPA match, 250 rounds not one malfunction with reloads, 147gn w/3.1gn green dot.
I agree it will be the most talked about. Seems to be 50/50 love/hate
Great content
Love the day z food can frfr and love the 4.25
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What did you do to mount the Holosun without issue? My 508t keeps coming loose no matter what screws i use and how much loctite i dump on it
Are all the issues fixed?
5” runs best w 147
And 4.25 runs beat w 124 grain
I have both
I can’t imagine both pistols had zero issues.
I have one that is back at Springfield for the second time and it was the worst thing I’ve ever bought.
First range trip I cleaned and lubed it.
Got through 50 rounds but took about 150 attempts bc all I had was feeding issues.
I literally never had 3 successive rounds without failure
Sent it to Springfield and about 8 weeks later I take it out again.
Much better
It now has 2-3 failures per magazine.
Even bought a $70 Staccato mag thinking that would help- it didn’t.
Sent it back and now I wait.
I bought a Bul Armory SAS Tac II and have about 200-300 rounds and it’s been perfect. It is by far my favorite gun.
Not saying some guns did not have issues. I won’t huy a BA pistol because of the proprietary mags. I have run every 2011 mag on market through both guns. I am also curious what ammo people were using
@9:14
What about the para ordnance p12 or the sig p229 and 226. Prior to the 2011 craze these existed. And no claim to fame of the 2011 consideration or hype. Seems to be forgotten compared to these newer iterations of the old designs.
Para was pretty low end. 229 triggers were rough. 226 is still a very popular pistol. Its just apples to oranges when comparing to a 1911 double stack pistol.
@@rdrgear as you may be right. I have an old para and p229. And neither held in the spotlight as a 2011 by design. How crappy they may be or not.
I do not buy a pistol within the first year. Issues will inevitably crop up. This issue was the internals. The disconnector especially. I just bought one in January 24, and have had no issues. However, it will be going to my gunsmith for mods. If you just want a good shooter, then buy it. Atlas and Staccato mags work great. Gun butter is good, but look at what Wilson, Infinity or Atlas recommend and use. If it is used in a $6000.00 pistol you know its good. They should not build up residue with time and heat.
Anyone elsr having issues with the thumb safety? I feel one side sticks and its not a simply flip up or down.
You do great honest reviews, most everybody can pick out the dip$h!t comments...
I guess what gripes me the most about the Prodigy is they must have known there would be problems before the release to the public; essentially making their customers part of their R&D department. Harbor Freight is another example where customers are used in that manner. I'll buy some stuff at Harbor Freight just because their prices are fair, but while some of their products are good and a good value there are plenty of things (compressors, nail guns, powered hand tools, etc.) that I won't consider because value goes out the window when they don't function. In Harbor Freight's defense, I will say they seem to watch what is returned and why so they can improve.
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No BS. Thank you.
I appreciate the watch.
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Kind of sucks you need an Allen wrench to field strip the thing
lol what?!
@@rdrgear don't you need that 5/32 Allen to take down the guide rod?
No different the some 1911's and 2011's ending a barrel wrench to take down the slide. This is done o the work bench. Not sure what the issue is, that you are commenting on
I'm just saying, I own the Ronin and don't need any tools to field strip. Some of us out here don't buy many firearms, so the ones we do have will be used for or if SHTF. Not going to have a work bench out in the trenches or where ever hideouts we'll be in 🤯
@@em3gmo if you chose a steel frame pistol for SHTF or any other what if scenario. I would suggest revisiting your pistol choice.
Èbad batchÈ or not.....all civilian owned guns are eentially 'range' or 'competition' ...and if th any production gun has the odd iccup it shouldnèt be a deal breaker...writing off THAT gun from your shot-list. Could be the ammo ...as many reviewers say....even reliable good brands will have the odd wonky round in the box...can happen...hard to QC each round before they put htem i the box rightÉ :)
So many factors can afafect Èthe shotÈ....beside the gun.....maybe weère 'limp wristing' and dont realize it till....or weère tired and mes up a little on the trigger pull or grip....spec of dust flies into our eyes on an outdoor range...so it doesnèt lock-back once that range session OOONOOO :) Nerd having a hisy fit....
For those that compete they are 'plinking guns' :) Competitiors are shooting at targets éstationary (that donèt shoot back) ....so they get 3rd..heh...Prodigy--bad batch...sure why ot...happened with the 2020 Colt Pythons...which they fixed immediately...no problems since in guns produced later...
MY question is....are Stacatto 2011è THAT MUCH betterÉÉ :)) Really. To justify their almost Èare you nuts asking pricesÈ (Èr u nuts $È for me are the $5600 COMP 2011 by one of hte ÈcustomÈ gun companies...thereès just that one ....Ètoo rich for my blood (I canèt justify it for a range gun)È...
I am doing my homework and due diligence. Why do you think I"m here?
Huh?
The problem with this gun, is you either get one that works, or a complete turd. Me and a buddy got one within 3 days of each other. His was OK, but was completely missing a front sight. But that was an easy enough fix... otherwise, it seems to be running OK.
Mine, wouldn't empty a magazine without an issue. It went back and stayed there almost 2 months... Came back, and still didn't run. Back again for 5 weeks... Returned exactly the same... Now it's been back for the 3rd time for almost 2 months.
I put about 75 round thru a gun that I've owned for a year, and Springfield can't seem to fix it, or replace it.
When it comes home, I'm not even going to open the box... It's going on gunbroker with the backstory, and I'll take whatever I can get for it...
My FFL says he's returned half of the prodigys he's sold. That was my first red flag... meh. Just save up more, and buy the Staccato. Don't take a chance on one of these... It isn't worth the headaches.
The very best thing you done is run it wet, one thing people that criticad wanted to run it out of the box without lube , every 1911 intusiast knows to run them wet
Got one day one and it was complete shit!!!! Ftf out the ass my friend got one also his also trash 1600 wasted on this piece of shit 🤦🏾♂️ I wanted to love it. When it did work it was nice I’m hoping by now they fixed the issues my friend sent his back and they fixed it and it works flawlessly this was a few weeks after we got ours
STACCATO is king!!! 👊🇺🇸🇺🇸🇺🇸😎👍
No, no its not. The Stacatto is the glock of 2011 world.
I sold my Prodigy 4.25 after only one month if owning it! It was one problem after another! My Staccato XC and my Taran Tactical Sand Viper are my babies!
My XC runs, ok. The Sandviper is decent not 7k decent though.
Prodigy Is The Poor Man's Ferrari! Seriously you cant get into the 2011 game cheaper. So you should expect to have to tune or upgrade parts. Hell the 2011 has never been a reliable platform to Staccato say so.
What poor man is even buying a $1400 pistol? Don't be ignorant. When I was 16 I was poor. 250 dollar guns was expensive.
The large majority of edc guns today are over 1K well over.
Mps sucks so many have broken eps is more reliable with a better warranty. Hows that pb3 that's what I want to see I wonder what you tuber will put out a video I can trust .and who the hell carrys 2011s for carry you would iether need to be a rich fat cat or just not aware that your gun will be taken away if you actually use it in a self defense and if you think you need a gun with that many rounds and that shoots so well you probably got some tuff streets .
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Completely different guns. Both are great guns. But apples and oranges.
This gun takes way too long to completely break down. It's a no go for me just like any other 2011 unless for competition. Simplicity is a virtue imo. Thanks for sharing.
They do have a lot of parts. But a complete break down is only needed 1 a year at most. To get the performance and speed of a 2011 its well worth the extra time in maintenance. IMO
Not worth the headache when bugging out to the woods and living in a tree.@@rdrgear
@@russdennis7026 can’t argue with that.
I'm not hating and I love my STi Omni and C2. Thanks for being cool and understand where i'm coming from. @@rdrgear
Why does the thumbnail view of this video start right off by demonstrating poor firearm handling? Why is your booger hook on the bang switch? Is this a "do as I say and not as I do" scenario?
🗣️ All hail the internet safety officer 😂😂
Well thats because it’s thumbnail. Troll on homie.
@@rdrgear Oh... god forbid we set a good example for all the new people who might be watching this stuff. Forgive me. I thought leading by example was the way to go. I didn't realize it was as I said, do as I say and not as I do.
@@NotYourAverageCritic if your comment had context, or if i was actually being unsafe. You would have a very valid point.you simply saw a still shot taken from a shooting sequence. And assumed it was a unsafe act.
1: The photo involving the gun was taken during a live string of fire down range in a safe manner.
2: Jeff did as instructed by the photographer, myself.
3: go pause a shooting clip between two rounds. Bet your ass his finder is on the trigger.
4: imagine running around on UA-cam attempting to deteriorate the 2a community you claim to be a part of🤙🏻
Unreliable. Many, many complaints about this gun. Pass
Mine was an absolute paperweight. When it shot, it shot great! Very easy to hit 50m steel targets with the irons. However, that depends on the firearm functioning, and reliability is non negotiable
Wow. What language was that in the begging?
What did you say.
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