Removing the magazine disconnect is a simple job. That being said, I've never minded it, the Hi Power was designed as a military weapon and neither Dieudonné Saive or John Browning ever expected it to become a cult favourite of American Sport and most of all, defensive shooters.
My 1st SA-35 was a boat anchor. Sent it back 3 times and never did eject. They replaced it with a newer model and and it works but I haven't put many rounds through it yet. I have the Girsan MC P35 and the smaller PI model and 0 failures with either of them. I have the standard and the tanker model 45's and no problems with them either. The Turks are making very high quality pistols. Also loved my Turkish pump shotguns.
I was seriously considering the Girsan mc p35 but ended up buying a CZ 75 B and am extremely happy with the decision. Im rocking the same hogue grips as well
CZ compact was my first pistol I’ve ever bought. Now I have three and no regrets. I got a Girsan MCP 35. No regrets. But, my choice for the apocalypse is the CZ75.
Had an FN back in the 80s, without a doubt it was my favorite handgun. Today, I bought the Girsan MC P35. I will be enjoying it as well. Yes, it is a bit heavier than most of my EDC choices but if it shoots like I remember, it will be the new carry.
I want a Springfield or a Girsan but since WA came out with the illegal mag ban, both companies have still not made a 10rd mag supplied version here in this state. Years ago I had an FEG 9HP clone that jammed a lot but having had that HP, the gun fit so well in the hand. I want another high-power very bad, but the options in this state with the crooked Inslee in power are limited. these companies really need to offer them supplied with a 10rd mag. I guess there is the CZ75 (which is an excellent and legendary handgun on its own and very much related to the HP) available until we can get them here. I guess I could try haggling a dealer to order/ sell me one without the 13rd mag which would be perfectly legal.
lol poor washingtonian, I managed to get one here in NJ and I've got both versions of the mags, pinned and unpinned for when I'm out of state nobody really cares about those kinds of laws here, not even the people that work at the gun shops. They'll obviously follow the law in the store but most guys I know will tell anyone the restrictions are god awful and stupid, and usually have something they shouldn't somewhere due to grandfathering, etc.
@@redline1916 I have 10's of dozens of mags over 10rds, they are legal, you just cannot buy them over 10rds as of last year. Many people say F it and get them out of state. LOL
My first handgun was a hi-power evolution(derived from the hi-power) made in Bulgaria called the Arcus 98DAC. Not as comfy in the hand as the OG, and DA/SA, but I still love that gun as my first pistol. I moved on to the CZ-85b(full ambi CZ-75), but I still feel the Hi-Power would be a lovely single action experience.
Girsan did remove the mag disconnect in the later updated models. I removed it in my Girsan and it made little if any difference to the smoothness or weight of the trigger pull. My advice is not to pay anyone to remove the mag disconnect if your mc p35 has it. Given the results or lack thereof I experienced, there is no reason to remove it and I would not do it over again.
Magazine safeties are a feature that is useful for police issue guns, and not useful in a combat gun, or a personal firearm. There are companies that make replacement drop-in triggers that eliminate the magazine safety. These drop-in triggers will also lighten your trigger pull, one less spring to compress.
trigger pull is much better on the Springfield. I also have both weapons and while the magazine safety is a military thing that's not really needed, The biggest thing is that that affects the reliability of the weather and makes the trigger feel a lot grittier. trigger pull on the Girsan it's about 8 lb while on the Springfield it's less than five. that's a huge difference and really affects accuracy. also the full steel frame of the Springfield is one of the nicest I have ever seen. in my opinion it wins hands down. but then what do I know I also like the original grips a lot better than the ones that you have on there. those are not very attractive
I am a big fan of the Hi-Power. I have 2 of the Hungarian FEG models. First thing I did was watch a few youtube videos and take that stupid mag disconnect out. Browning only designed it that way because the French insisted on it, then past on the pistol. Shows how much the French know. My pistols have been great. Bought a bunch of the 13 round Mec-Gar mags. They are the best IMO. I really like the idea of the Springfield, and like the idea of getting the shorter barreled version of the Girsan. But with 2 great FEGs and 2 Compact CZ 75 compacts, it seems rather redundant. The Hi-Power is a great pistol. Great feel, pointability and accuracy.
The Girsan MC P35 is the one and only true clone of the original FN HP. All the parts are 100% interchangeable. The SA SA-35 uses its own "EXTRA" proprietary internal parts and not a true clone.
All of these complaints I see in the comments about the magazine disconnect, i just dont get it. Why do you need to be able to fire a round with NO magazine in it, answer me that? Does everyone here think they are gonna be in a Hank situation from breaking bad, and need to rummage around for that loose round to load...ya know, just in case. Why does it matter if the magazine falls free on its own? Anyone who has one can tell you it comes loose with a small flick of your wrist. And even if it doesnt, its probably on purpose considering the gun wont fire without it. *ding ding ding* Lastly, I think if the gun doesnt shoot without the magazine in it, it might be for people who feel the need to reload before the magazine is empty. It always keeps one chambered, even if you accidentally pull the trigger during a mag change.
For me, its not firing a round without a mag, Its being able to drop the hammer without a mag. I just feel its safer not having to insert a mag to drop the hammer.
@@minuteman3 If thats your reasoning, sure, but beyond that i can't see any real reason it would be an issue. Just seems like an road lesser taken kinda design. And i made myself feel better about it by doing it at the range until i burned it into my head that it doesnt matter if i drop the hammer with an empty mag or a full one, the gun wont go boom if nothing is chambered. If i carry one in the chamber, at the end of the day i just pop the live round out after taking the mag out, release the slide with it empty replace round in magazine and then into gun and I pull the trigger. Its an extra step for an extra safty feature. edit: remember, you still need to rack the slide to chamber a round to even start shooting the gun, doesnt matter if you cock the hammer and pull the trigger with a full mag if there is no blowback to chamber another round from the magazine. Or the easy/risky way, just keep the round in and use your other hand to slowly decock the hammer lol for dry fire practice, use an empty mag, dummy rounds, or a full one, and just use the hammer to initiate the trigger pull. Again, the easy method is not always the safest. Habit is a hard thing to break if youre use to racking a slide. Disclaimer.
The metallurgy of the Spingfield SA35 Hi-Power ,is superior as it is fully forged steel, and has a cold forged barrel. Also, the 1911 style thumb safety is superior than the Girsan. Springfield Armory SA-35 Hi-Power is the best choice. Plus Mec-Gar makes 15 round magazines for any Hi-power, or Hi-Power clones.
Love my SA-35’s as I have two with consecutive serial numbers and they were bought after Springfield rectified their extractor issues with the early release models. I also have a Belgium made Hi Power and a more modern Hi Power I bought in 2016. I ❤️ them all!!! But I believe however that Springfield did it right and makes the BEST “Hi Power” ever and BETTER than the FN originals. Just my opinion when I compare my collection. One of my SA-35’S is my “toy project” gun. The other one I’m keeping 100% factory stock original and in the box as a safe queen. My “toy” version has had a complete internal upgrade package done from BHSpring Solutions, including the addition of their Type 1 safety sear lever swapped in from the OEM. That’s a definite must-have and a no-brainer. Then I road-tripped by driving that SA-35 to Las Vegas and had MK3 Gunsmithing do a number on it. Overall, I’ve put at least $1600 into the gun and man it’s a jewel!
Removing the magazine disconnect is a simple job. That being said, I've never minded it, the Hi Power was designed as a military weapon and neither Dieudonné Saive or John Browning ever expected it to become a cult favourite of American Sport and most of all, defensive shooters.
first thing i did to my old FEG clone was remove the mag safety, it also makes the trigger a lot smoother.
My 1st SA-35 was a boat anchor. Sent it back 3 times and never did eject. They replaced it with a newer model and and it works but I haven't put many rounds through it yet. I have the Girsan MC P35 and the smaller PI model and 0 failures with either of them. I have the standard and the tanker model 45's and no problems with them either. The Turks are making very high quality pistols. Also loved my Turkish pump shotguns.
I have the Girsan as well. No failures and no malfunctions.
I was seriously considering the Girsan mc p35 but ended up buying a CZ 75 B and am extremely happy with the decision. Im rocking the same hogue grips as well
CZ compact was my first pistol I’ve ever bought. Now I have three and no regrets. I got a Girsan MCP 35. No regrets. But, my choice for the apocalypse is the CZ75.
The cz is 100% perfect
Had an FN back in the 80s, without a doubt it was my favorite handgun. Today, I bought the Girsan MC P35. I will be enjoying it as well. Yes, it is a bit heavier than most of my EDC choices but if it shoots like I remember, it will be the new carry.
I bought springfield sa-35 like it.
It cost me $100 for my gunsmith to remove the magazine disconnect and get rid of the minor trigger spurs, those made the trigger a lot better
I want a Springfield or a Girsan but since WA came out with the illegal mag ban, both companies have still not made a 10rd mag supplied version here in this state. Years ago I had an FEG 9HP clone that jammed a lot but having had that HP, the gun fit so well in the hand. I want another high-power very bad, but the options in this state with the crooked Inslee in power are limited. these companies really need to offer them supplied with a 10rd mag. I guess there is the CZ75 (which is an excellent and legendary handgun on its own and very much related to the HP) available until we can get them here. I guess I could try haggling a dealer to order/ sell me one without the 13rd mag which would be perfectly legal.
lol poor washingtonian, I managed to get one here in NJ and I've got both versions of the mags, pinned and unpinned for when I'm out of state
nobody really cares about those kinds of laws here, not even the people that work at the gun shops. They'll obviously follow the law in the store but most guys I know will tell anyone the restrictions are god awful and stupid, and usually have something they shouldn't somewhere due to grandfathering, etc.
@@redline1916 I have 10's of dozens of mags over 10rds, they are legal, you just cannot buy them over 10rds as of last year. Many people say F it and get them out of state. LOL
My first handgun was a hi-power evolution(derived from the hi-power) made in Bulgaria called the Arcus 98DAC. Not as comfy in the hand as the OG, and DA/SA, but I still love that gun as my first pistol. I moved on to the CZ-85b(full ambi CZ-75), but I still feel the Hi-Power would be a lovely single action experience.
Girsan did remove the mag disconnect in the later updated models. I removed it in my Girsan and it made little if any difference to the smoothness or weight of the trigger pull. My advice is not to pay anyone to remove the mag disconnect if your mc p35 has it. Given the results or lack thereof I experienced, there is no reason to remove it and I would not do it over again.
Since they are basically identical, I wish you would have commented more about quality, trigger, fit, etc.
I wish he had addressed whether the mags fall free for both. Mine don't on the Girsan, even after removing the mag disconnect.
Magazines fall free easily in the Springfield Armory SA-35 Hi-Power.
The Girsan mcp35 PI LW OPS comes without the mag release safety fyi. The trigger pull is about 6 lbs though. Now my EDC.
Magazine safeties are a feature that is useful for police issue guns, and not useful in a combat gun, or a personal firearm. There are companies that make replacement drop-in triggers that eliminate the magazine safety. These drop-in triggers will also lighten your trigger pull, one less spring to compress.
Thanks, I'll check it out.
trigger pull is much better on the Springfield. I also have both weapons and while the magazine safety is a military thing that's not really needed, The biggest thing is that that affects the reliability of the weather and makes the trigger feel a lot grittier. trigger pull on the Girsan it's about 8 lb while on the Springfield it's less than five. that's a huge difference and really affects accuracy. also the full steel frame of the Springfield is one of the nicest I have ever seen. in my opinion it wins hands down. but then what do I know I also like the original grips a lot better than the ones that you have on there. those are not very attractive
Is the mc35 aluminium on the bottom?
Girsan is now 1/2 the price of the sa-35
Girsan now has some models with no magazine disconnect and a rail.
Magazine safety is safer…..not sure why it is an issue.
What are the grips you put on both? Thanks
Hogue 9000 rubber grips. Got them off of Amazon for $26.
Thanks George
Saludos acabo de comprar una girsan , lo unico que nomas trae un cargador ,yocreo que deven de traer 2 como todas las marcas
Which one has a better trigger ?
To my taste the SA-35 has a better trigger. The take up isn't as long and. its lighter, and smoother.
I am a big fan of the Hi-Power. I have 2 of the Hungarian FEG models. First thing I did was watch a few youtube videos and take that stupid mag disconnect out. Browning only designed it that way because the French insisted on it, then past on the pistol. Shows how much the French know. My pistols have been great. Bought a bunch of the 13 round Mec-Gar mags. They are the best IMO. I really like the idea of the Springfield, and like the idea of getting the shorter barreled version of the Girsan. But with 2 great FEGs and 2 Compact CZ 75 compacts, it seems rather redundant. The Hi-Power is a great pistol. Great feel, pointability and accuracy.
You could've taken the magazine safety out when you switched the grips out
Don't like the hammer/trigger disconnect feature which is original to the FN HP ? Just remove it, it's a 10 min job.
The Girsan MC P35 is the one and only true clone of the original FN HP. All the parts are 100% interchangeable. The SA SA-35 uses its own "EXTRA" proprietary internal parts and not a true clone.
Girsan all day long. Better build, more reliable.
nice grips!
All of these complaints I see in the comments about the magazine disconnect, i just dont get it.
Why do you need to be able to fire a round with NO magazine in it, answer me that? Does everyone here think they are gonna be in a Hank situation from breaking bad, and need to rummage around for that loose round to load...ya know, just in case.
Why does it matter if the magazine falls free on its own? Anyone who has one can tell you it comes loose with a small flick of your wrist. And even if it doesnt, its probably on purpose considering the gun wont fire without it. *ding ding ding*
Lastly, I think if the gun doesnt shoot without the magazine in it, it might be for people who feel the need to reload before the magazine is empty. It always keeps one chambered, even if you accidentally pull the trigger during a mag change.
For me, its not firing a round without a mag, Its being able to drop the hammer without a mag. I just feel its safer not having to insert a mag to drop the hammer.
@@minuteman3 If thats your reasoning, sure, but beyond that i can't see any real reason it would be an issue. Just seems like an road lesser taken kinda design. And i made myself feel better about it by doing it at the range until i burned it into my head that it doesnt matter if i drop the hammer with an empty mag or a full one, the gun wont go boom if nothing is chambered. If i carry one in the chamber, at the end of the day i just pop the live round out after taking the mag out, release the slide with it empty replace round in magazine and then into gun and I pull the trigger. Its an extra step for an extra safty feature. edit: remember, you still need to rack the slide to chamber a round to even start shooting the gun, doesnt matter if you cock the hammer and pull the trigger with a full mag if there is no blowback to chamber another round from the magazine.
Or the easy/risky way, just keep the round in and use your other hand to slowly decock the hammer lol
for dry fire practice, use an empty mag, dummy rounds, or a full one, and just use the hammer to initiate the trigger pull. Again, the easy method is not always the safest. Habit is a hard thing to break if youre use to racking a slide. Disclaimer.
The metallurgy of the Spingfield SA35 Hi-Power ,is superior as it is fully forged steel, and has a cold forged barrel. Also, the 1911 style thumb safety is superior than the Girsan. Springfield Armory SA-35 Hi-Power is the best choice. Plus Mec-Gar makes 15 round magazines for any Hi-power, or Hi-Power clones.
Just have the magazine disconnect removed. Your problem solved.
Easy to remove the mag safety yourself.
How could it be better than the 1911 when it's chambred in nine millimeter...
These days with bullet technology, there isn't that much a difference between 9mm and .45 anymore.
@@minuteman3 keep telling yourself that.
My thoughts exactly!!!
it has 8 more rounds.
Love my SA-35’s as I have two with consecutive serial numbers and they were bought after Springfield rectified their extractor issues with the early release models. I also have a Belgium made Hi Power and a more modern Hi Power I bought in 2016. I ❤️ them all!!! But I believe however that Springfield did it right and makes the BEST “Hi Power” ever and BETTER than the FN originals. Just my opinion when I compare my collection.
One of my SA-35’S is my “toy project” gun. The other one I’m keeping 100% factory stock original and in the box as a safe queen. My “toy” version has had a complete internal upgrade package done from BHSpring Solutions, including the addition of their Type 1 safety sear lever swapped in from the OEM. That’s a definite must-have and a no-brainer. Then I road-tripped by driving that SA-35 to Las Vegas and had MK3 Gunsmithing do a number on it. Overall, I’ve put at least $1600 into the gun and man it’s a jewel!
The only thing you collect is dust Goober..bet you drive a Fiat
Browning clones.