The lower resolution in Far Cry 2 puts more strain on the CPU compared to the GPU part of it. I've found that when testing CPUs and got lower FPS at 720p than at 1080p
These are great. I have picked these up for 10 bucks. Gave a pair loaded with games to my cousins, who's parents were struggling. They never had a game system, a streaming device or a computer. Now they have all 3. A bluetooth dongle with a cheap controller and some trash bin keyboards and a few hours downloading games off the pirate bay. I'm so happy to see I wasn't the only one to see the beauty in these little gems. I think business should install learning software and games on these and gift them to families in need.
@@chrissxMedia Gitlab alone wants 3.5 gb ram, that is together with an OS like debian already maxing out the PI. a static website in NGINX only takes like 10 mb ram.
Or a late Pentium 3 era retro PC. It's silent, doesn't take up much space, with a 16GB SSD and Windows 98/XP it shows good potential for early 2000's games. If it has the drivers it might work around the compatibility issues for older games on Windows 10 and it's cheaper and smaller than an actual Pentium 3.
@@azminek7154 I'd be really hesitant to run Windows 98 on an SSD. I'd have to check, but I think later versions of XP were compatible and safe to use, though.
@@Rocky1138 I don't think it would be worse than a CF and a lot of people prefer them over period correct or even more modern hard drives. All of these are dirt cheap either way.
@@azminek7154 You're probably right. I seem to remember a way to set it up so that the Windows drive is read-only or writes all at once when you shut it down or something, as well.
For small under-the-TV retro gaming box that is very good. Attach USB flash drive with games and fire up the Batocera or Lakka TV, connect your favorite controller and game on
Literally why I have one around. 32GB USB stick in the front USB 3.0 port, all else to the rear, fire it up and play away. Perfect for kids as well as these things are pretty tough what with no moving parts and all.
I'm a big fan of my Nvidia ION thin clients. 4gb ddr2, an Nvidia 9400 with 512mb VRAM, and a dual core hyperthreaded Pentium. Neat little Retropie / Linux box
@@Escanthon Ah! Fellow Quake 2 player! Have you try newest Quake remake by Nvidia? It will get a bit warm but I am sure you will get use to it! It is free on Steam!
One use case for this type of PC would be to use it as a client PC to connect to your main gaming PC so you can game in every room without multiple gaming machines.
Tbh just buy a Nvidia shield if you run a Nvidia GPU, it'll be so much better and when not streaming games would actually be fucking useful and would do shit
@@tobiwonkanogy2975 the Nvidia shield can probably do atleast a good majority of those and dont forget about side loading unsupported services and the ability to just stream the service to the shield from the pc if you add the windows exe i forget it's name you've just got a remote access device to the pc
I used a T5740 thin client as a server for nearly 4 years. I hooked up a SATA drive to it, installed a Windows 7 on it and ran Apache, MySQL, Samba, TeamSpeak and also Call of Duty 2. It has only had an Atom 270 with 2 GB of RAM. Worked perfectly, I changed it only because I wanted to use RAID to store data securely.
These struggle with labuntu even bodi runs like shit on them. However. Deluge webserver. With a VPN. Is a low cost alternative for a downloader. Or a remote gateway to your pc at home when your out and about.
in Half-Life 4x msaa is enabled in the steam version you must be use the -nomsaa command in the launch options and test it again edit : you playing the source version aka the most broken version
Since you can get an old optiplex for the same price range, that is what I would go with due to expandability. Proper desktop socketed CPU's, proper desktop ram dimms, proper sata connectors and full length PCIe slots, etc etc etc. Businesses and government offices dump them in bulk just like they do with thin clients.
When I saw gameplay of a Tony Hawk game, I thought it was THUG Pro, which was a mod for Tony Hawk's Underground 2, but nope, it was Tony Hawk's Underground.
Your videos are getting better. Funny, but not annoying, informative, and real (for me, cheapo stuff enthusiast). And that ambient music at the first half. Good job man, keep the hard work, but don't burn yourself. Cheers from Indonesia 😁
Installing LibreElec & another light Linux distro makes these some really killer HTPCs & pretty good retro emulators. Since these are Enterprise units, companies regularly upgrade their hardware in cycles. You really can't beat these for only $20 to $30.
I built a Windows XP retro gaming PC in a T610 Plus thin client, which is a generation older than the one you got. It has a PCIe x16 slot and space for a low profile expansion card, so I installed a Radeon HD 7570 GPU and the latest drivers compatible with XP, and it runs everything short of Crysis. Excellent bang for the buck, and a great entry into the world of retro computing.
Any thin client which used XP embedded or its successor (you can find isos to download from the usual sources) can usually run XP Black Edition (fan supported repacks with modern drivers).
In one place I worked in recently the thin client computers lasted at most six months. People used to laptops and desktops found the thin clients far slower and asked for them to be replaced.
The general rule is... For lower resolutions, the CPU takes more of the load and CPU usage goes up. As screen resolution goes up, then the CPU usage lowers and GPU usage increases. This is best illustrated by testing a game in 1080p and then again in 4K. In the 1080 test CPU usage will actually be higher than on a 4K test run. Frame rate and frame time are closely tied to the CPU cycle rate. As pixel count rises, the GPU is offloaded the larger task of drawing more pixels, and the CPU frame time will reduce and as a result it can support more frames per second.
If there's one thing I can take out of this video is just the reinforcement that benchmarks are bullocks. What really matters is that the damn games ran fine! This machine would fit perfectly for my 90's games like Caesar 3, Total Annihilation, Interstate 76, Carmageddon, Quake/Quake2, Deus Ex, Thief, NFS Porsche, the list goes on and on...
At minute 4, i was absolutely surprised that this game ran hit and run so smoothly. When you first stated that the CPU was hitting 100% on the desktop, i thought you might have luck with duke nukem 1 or 2, not a 3D game. Interesting.
This is completely off-topic, but I am so surprised with how well The Simpsons Hit and Run has held up. Cartoony games always seem to keep looking great, even after many years. I suppose it's because it's not intended to look realistic, so it looks perfectly fine even after longer than a decade. What a classic that game was, haha. Thanks for the great video mate, always entertaining! :)
It honestly would be a nice computer to browse the web, read emails, do some Amazon/ebay shopping. Maybe even type up documents but the transfer speeds might be slow (depends on SSD I assume). A less demanding distro of Linux could help mitigate computer resources for other tasks. Scanning for viruses though might take some time lol considering the cinebench score.
These HT t620 thin clients are great for a small home servers, IMHO even better than a raspberry pi. They only draw around 5W and can be easily upgraded to 8GB of RAM and a bigger SSD. :)
Should have ran "debloating" scrpits, used win 10 lite or win 7 considering how win 10 is a resource hog also looked at how far away the ssd mounting hole is or compared the one you were getting to the existing ssd.
4gb RAM/8gb SSD is massive for one of these. Our thin clients have 1gb RAM and a 4GB DOM (it's basically a tiny SSD on a SATA plug) and they still drive dual 1440p monitors with ease.
Thin clients are bloody useful and you get a shit ton of tech for little cash, I've got an HP running Home Assistant for the 3rd of the cost of an RPi 4 and it's awesome
I noticed with the specs right away that it would be a bit better than you were expecting, granted you stuck to games from around 2004. This would have been a solid PC in 2002-ish. Not tip tier but really solid. The RAM actually would have been bonkers in that period but the CPU and GPU would have been very acceptable in 2004. It obviously won't do any 3D gaming that's remotely modern but that's obvious before the test.
8 gig SSD? Not too surprised at that, but 4 gigs of RAM is overkill, probably even 2 gigs is. I wonder what all that RAM was used for since something like this shouldn't need much more than a gig of RAM and probably wouldn't be too noticeably slower with 512 MB.
XP Integral Edition is a good go-to for machines these days (if you need XP). Fully updated and includes pretty much all drivers you'd need on the disc/iso for modern hardware. Also guts all the bloat and deprecated software and services.
I've been running one of these HP t620 units as an ESXi host since 2015. 32GB RAM (even tho the MFR says max 16, it works); 240GB m.2 ATA SSD, USB 3 HDDs passed through. 6 VMs running concurrently. No complaints. Maybe not good for gaming, but it's an absolute champ for running a NAS/web server, router/DNS/proxy host, HomeAssistant appliance, VPN router, a Windows 7 instance, and a Windows 10 instance, with capacity left for more if needed. I need another for a second location now. If you don't like it, mate, I'll buy it off you for more than you paid for it!
the cpu (2 cores at 1.2 GHz) is puma based, the successor to the jaguar cores found in the Xbox one and ps4, and the gpu is gcn based (likely gcn2, running at 300 MHz), 2 compute units. so in essence this is a very limited game console. i suspect the gpu is doing most of the heavy lifting here. i like and collect these kinds of things, underpowered hardware analogous to more capable ones, so I'll be looking out for these models on ebay
Got myself a bunch (9 in total) of these (4GB RAM and 16 GB disk). I upgraded two devices to 8 GB of RAM and a 256 GB disk (for the first two use cases). I identified the following use cases that work well for me: - Ubuntu desktop running RetroPie - Windows 7 - Pi-hole DNS ad blocking running on Ubuntu Server - Unifi Controller running on Ubuntu Server - pfSense Router using an additional USB 3.0 NIC adapter (may need to reconsider) - Ubuntu Server running a few small Docker containers, just some lightweight ones - Attaching an external USB 3.0 SSD to run Blobfuse to mount Azure blob storage, see docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/storage/blobs/storage-how-to-mount-container-linux All in all, great for small workloads when understanding their limits. Only downside is you need a display dummy adapter if you want to run this machine headless...
I was wondering if you could tell me a bit about emulation performance is like? I've been thinking of repurposing one as a retro console emulator box type thing. Thanks!
Perhaps interesting for some here to know, the t520 (AMD GX-212JC) also eats 1.5V DDR3 SO-DIMM RAM, has increased from 2 to 4GB, presumably you have 1.5V more in the drawer than 1.35V. For me the small one is a good alternative to the Rpi3B+/4.
I saw someone score 0 cb with an Athlon 5350 underclocked to 800 MHz, and a 4K render in the background linustechtips.com/main/topic/753648-ill-bet-you-cant-get-a-worse-cinebench-score-than-me/
I made lanparty with 24 Pentium 4 computers (mostly Dell SFF cases) and it runs pretty good. Retro fun, and Pentium 4 are 3,0 GHz versions. Thinclient are designed not run own windows, but streams mostly, that is why CPU is not great one, while GPU is better to support streaming. I know many HP thinclients are just normal PCs, they have BIOS. Install Windows is no problem. But still, in some shops these thinclients have still sell value of 200 EURO so you're lucky to buy one for 25 EURO. So it's not always cheap. Only that are CHEAP are dumped old Pentium 4 systems because they have no use for most cases, while this type thinclient has still use in some business. There are more thinclients, but don't but some WYSE thinclients. They are special made, pretty hardcoded and no BIOS. You cannot do much with Wyse. HP thinclients are much easier and you can turn them even in small mailservers or printerserver to run some printers at distance! Or firewall. Or music server, enough ideas. You put big SSD inside, but they come also in smaller M2 versions, so they can mounted better and safer. It's good you can change easy memory and storage in many HP thinclients. But, i should look in Pentium 4 machines, which are still a lot to find around and they're way cheaper and sometimes even free. Then you can run some old games like Quake and Unreal Tournament perfectly fine. Another are Atom type small computers. Need do some checks with some Atom computers.
We had one of these at my old place of work. Literally its only job was to run our time-clock program for clocking in and out and half the time it couldn't handle that. (15 people used it max)
I know from experience that when thin clients are introduced people put up with them for a few weeks & then start asking for a real computer. Before long the thin clients start to disappear. I am talking about in an office environment.
even win 7 will run ok if you dont clog it with apps on startup and run one app at a time . Xp would run no big deal perfect but drivers and safety win 7
@@theRealChadWarden42069 I spotted the gun movement and the decals that the crowbar left on the walls. They dont look like ones from the original. They look like the ones from Half-Life 2
I can tell you from personal experience that a dell optiplex is a great way to spend your money if you get a good deal. I got one used for 275 usd and a AMD rx 480 for around 21 usd. It can play most games at about 60 to 100 fps.
Please do some emulation on this lil guy(at least ps1 and N64). Or even more: install linux with LXDE/LXQt as DE and then try emulation. Because i suppose win really eats performance.
Excellent selection of games to illustrate what can be realistically achieved on such humble hardware. It was a relief to not see an attempt at running Witcher 3/GTA V/anything else equally unsuitable for the platform. I picked up a pair of similarly sized HP EliteDesk 800 G2 from a corporate scrap program for next to nothing. Replacing the included WD Black 500 GB HDD with a bargain basement SSD yields a great media player/actual light use desktop (i5 6500T). The only local game I tried was Portal (fine up to 720P), but otherwise for streaming games from my "actual" PC or Xbox One - no issues. One is even running a tiny VMWare ESXi lab.
I had the same COU in a laptop (e-1200, duel core, same 1.2 GHz, same 37-39cb score). It was dreadful, chrome took 35 seconds to open up, and why it ever came from the factory with Windows 8.1 is beyond me! I downgraded to 10 and it was so much worse... 1 minute to open Chrome! Put Linux on it, and it was actually useable! Most tasks were 7x faster or more. Running 3d printing software to convert object into machine code for the printer to run would take 5 seconds on Linux vs 40 seconds on Windows (or 1 minute on Windows 10). So it was faster to shit down and restart into Linux if it was a 10 second workload! That’s how I loved Linux! It’s still even noticeably snappier, even on my TR-1950x at 4.15 GHz all 32 threads with quad channel 3600 MHz RAM and quad crossfire for triple 4k workstation and 4k Ultra gaming (100 fps in Crysis 3 at 4k Ultra vs my Titan Xp at only 45 fps, it’s quick!). My Cinebench score is 100x higher (almost exactly, graphics power is nearing 1000x higher...). You may be wondering why I enjoy these quirky/odd super low spec videos then... well, it’s to remember what I had, and how thankful I am to be blessed and enjoy the super nice hardware! I actually love playing retro gaming too, because that was basically all the potato could run, so once in a while I fire up a game on my insanely fast (by comparison) HD3000 integrated graphics Linux laptop just so the frame rates stay below 40 fps on ultra low settings for super light weight Linux retro style/inspired games. Sure I could fire it up on my GTX 1070 laptop (currently outbenching most desktop overclocked 1070s), but it’s just not the same jaggy stuttery gameplay I used to enjoy you know? It’s better in every way, but it’s just not the same, so I use the lowest spec I’ve got for the memories (I still wouldn’t use that e-1200 though, that thing was so bad, when it went missing I felt bad for whoever stole it... I actually celebrated, lol!).
Tristris 389 Ubuntu was much faster for me (Puppy Linux is much much faster if your only browsing the web though, Midori is the browser I use for systems with under 1 Gb of RAM when paired with Puppy). I’m not sure how yours could possibly be slower, Ubuntu even makes my Ryzen chips noticeably much faster, and when light on resources like my laptop e1 was, it was a life saver! So I’m not sure why yours is having an issue, that’s very strange, I don’t know how that could possibly be or why, beats me!
@@jakegarrett8109 Doing anything under Ubuntu, even opening the app tray was crazy slow. The CPU was pegged at 100% about 70% of the time. Some systems will run great under Linux, but not any of my E series laptops. I had the E-1500 and a E-450, both were crazy slow under Ubuntu. For slow systems, I'll use Windows 8.1, It has proven to be the fastest for me.
Tristris 389 That’s really weird, Windows 8.1 took 35 seconds to slice a 3d object into machine gcode while faster than Windows 10 at 40 seconds, Ubuntu blew it away at under 5 seconds (it was roughly 7.5x faster). E1 1.2 GHz. These were in line with general use ability. That’s what I’m not sure is going on, because I’ve never seen windows win on any hardware for most of my stuff (gaming might be he only exception since Linux often gets ports, although Steam Proton really changes that). The only thing I can think of is you may have made the Linux partition stupid small, or disabled swap/insufficient swap size (page-filing in Windows terms), or if you ran it from a USB stick (then yeah, it’s gonna be 20x slower if you just live booted from a USB thumb drive).
The HP T620 with the AMD dual core GX-217-GA at 1.65 Gigahertz with 8 Gigabytes of RAM and a 128 GB SATA ( No NVME for these) M.2 SSD runs Windows 7 Pro 64 bit very well. Has two USB3.0 ports, Radeon 8280e graphics and the audio circuitry is capable of highrez high bitrate audio and is very low noise. Also has a line-in and line-out on the back and a Headphone and separate Mic jack on the front. Have used it as an audio source for tape recording. There is an HP T630 with a 2 GHz AMD Quad core but costs a bit more.
The 512MB GPU in this HP thin client is pretty much the same as my previous 256MB MSI Radeon HD 2600 Pro AGP card in my Athlon 64 X2 4800+ build at 2.4GP/s & 4.8GT/s, which I was stuck with as my main system until I finally upgraded in 2015.
It could run better with a debloated install of Windows 10. You could also give Windows Thin PC a try. Essentially a normal 7 install with reduced features. Much better than Starter.
“maxing out at 100% by simply existing” same
More power than they got to the moon with, just depends how you use it.
A fresh copy of windows 10 will fill the low end cpus usage for a while. than if all the right drivers are installedl it will normalize to 2-3%.
you should have used ubuntu server with lxde and ran the games using proton. that would have gotten you around 5-15 fps more on average.
"Linux, or Ubuntu..."
That _hurt_ . That is literally like saying "Like a car, or a Toyota."
Well i choose ubuntu.
corolla or toyota
ToyoTa suPrA
Toyota is pretty damn good
@@dnh3005 Japanese car are good
i prefer suzuki more than toyota since the seat is not going tu suck me in when i sat on it
The lower resolution in Far Cry 2 puts more strain on the CPU compared to the GPU part of it. I've found that when testing CPUs and got lower FPS at 720p than at 1080p
limit fps it will fine
Far cry 2 is a very demanding game, much more complex than a lot a newer far cry games
😒👍 1024 x 768 = FTW 🐢
polentusmax not true lmao
Is it playable for pro evolution soccer 2019?
I know you're not gonna see this. I just want to say that I enjoy all of your content man. Keep it up.
He just might.
I second this.
He might not, but I have seen it, and I would just like to say that I agree.
He will! You're first comment :D
why doesn't he check his comments? cm
We just got rid of thousands of these exact model from my workplace, guess they went on eBay
Most are upgrading to Laptops nowadays. trying to shift more people into homeoffice and abuse their worktimes
@@Waldherz Capitalism strikes again!
I always see these PCs being sold as a DOS or Windows 2000 gaming PC which this seems perfect for with it's small form factor and tiny SSD.
These are great. I have picked these up for 10 bucks. Gave a pair loaded with games to my cousins, who's parents were struggling. They never had a game system, a streaming device or a computer. Now they have all 3. A bluetooth dongle with a cheap controller and some trash bin keyboards and a few hours downloading games off the pirate bay. I'm so happy to see I wasn't the only one to see the beauty in these little gems. I think business should install learning software and games on these and gift them to families in need.
Got any links to download video games 😉
Bought a GTX 760 for £15 last night, are you proud dad ?
Jack damn.. where i live ppl still selling those for like 50-70€...
Jack I got a gtx 580 for $20
*daddy
I got an rtx 2080ti for £8.47
tinytantrum99 no
This could be a great Windows XP Gaming System! (Sims, Sim City, Need for Speed Porsche, Battlefield 1942, GTA3)
Awesome idea but make sure there are drivers if you want something older like xp
@@pirategirljess all these AMD apu have the driver for windows xp for an amd choice. The problem is that win xp doesn't suppor well the ssd.
@@davidereverberi5279 the problem is with nvme, with mSATA I've had no problems whatsoever.
I have a T620, and it is perfectly usable as a small mini server, for email or a website.
No noise, small box, low power consumption
Me too they are great, I also have a t620 plus with a nic in running Pfsense
just get a f-ing raspi
but raspi not fast and is arm
i am using it for 2 websites and an email server and it works just fine
@@chrissxMedia Gitlab alone wants 3.5 gb ram, that is together with an OS like debian already maxing out the PI. a static website in NGINX only takes like 10 mb ram.
I was watching on my phone so I felt left out :c
Insanity Prevails I'm watching on my iPad. What's a computer?
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@@maxwellj4897 Are you 12?
@@DeadPhoenix86DP no u.
Same
;-;
Always great to see old, unusual hardware repurposed like this.
its not too hateful for only a 2w chip, would be a great music device
@Tearjerker Yes, it can run over and crush Justin Beiber
Or a late Pentium 3 era retro PC. It's silent, doesn't take up much space, with a 16GB SSD and Windows 98/XP it shows good potential for early 2000's games. If it has the drivers it might work around the compatibility issues for older games on Windows 10 and it's cheaper and smaller than an actual Pentium 3.
@@azminek7154 I'd be really hesitant to run Windows 98 on an SSD. I'd have to check, but I think later versions of XP were compatible and safe to use, though.
@@Rocky1138 I don't think it would be worse than a CF and a lot of people prefer them over period correct or even more modern hard drives. All of these are dirt cheap either way.
@@azminek7154 You're probably right. I seem to remember a way to set it up so that the Windows drive is read-only or writes all at once when you shut it down or something, as well.
For small under-the-TV retro gaming box that is very good. Attach USB flash drive with games and fire up the Batocera or Lakka TV, connect your favorite controller and game on
I think i will do this. This thing is perfect.
I was thinking FreeDOS and play some Duke3d
Literally why I have one around. 32GB USB stick in the front USB 3.0 port, all else to the rear, fire it up and play away. Perfect for kids as well as these things are pretty tough what with no moving parts and all.
I was wondering the exact same about how well Batocera will do with these little guys as a cheaper RPi alternative.
Pentium EE 965 stock: 112cb
Pentium 965 @ 4.26ghz: 128cb
Me: "wow, talk about low ipc".
This hp thin client: "hold my beer."
Jorge Ramos i could've sworn there was a video where he got a cb score of 1 or am i insane
Pentium 4 HT 631 (3 GHz, 86W) stock 47cb, OC to 4 GHZ: 60cb
Celeron 440 (2 GHz, 35W) stock 35cb, OC to 3.5 GHz: 53cb
This thing (1.2 -1.4 GHz, 2W) stock 37cb
Lowest score I ever witnessed: Celeron D 336 (2.8 GHz, 84W): 21cb
who wins...
yes, but how many of those CPUs run with only 2w ?
@@HappyBeezerStudios The Pentium 4 HT 631
112cb with a core 2 duo e6600
I'm a big fan of my Nvidia ION thin clients. 4gb ddr2, an Nvidia 9400 with 512mb VRAM, and a dual core hyperthreaded Pentium.
Neat little Retropie / Linux box
@XmodsTheSpot Emails, UA-cam, retro emulation, and some old games like quake 2, half life, fallout 2, etc.
@@Escanthon Ah! Fellow Quake 2 player! Have you try newest Quake remake by Nvidia? It will get a bit warm but I am sure you will get use to it! It is free on Steam!
does it run windows 2000?
One use case for this type of PC would be to use it as a client PC to connect to your main gaming PC so you can game in every room without multiple gaming machines.
Tbh just buy a Nvidia shield if you run a Nvidia GPU, it'll be so much better and when not streaming games would actually be fucking useful and would do shit
Interesting idea!!
that exactly the point of this things.
@@PlinkyVR i agree but this device can support all the services , steam xbox stadia etc etc
@@tobiwonkanogy2975 the Nvidia shield can probably do atleast a good majority of those and dont forget about side loading unsupported services and the ability to just stream the service to the shield from the pc if you add the windows exe i forget it's name you've just got a remote access device to the pc
Thicc boi DESTROYS his thin client
(Gone Wrong!) (Gone Sexual!)
[PornHub intro plays.]
I'm actually quite impressed with the graphics part of this chip. And the fact that the thin client came with an M.2 slot.
How does this handle emulation? As a 'classic' console this could be a perfect under TV machine for retro console titles.
voteDC and cheaper than those garbage classic consoles with even more games
I used a T5740 thin client as a server for nearly 4 years. I hooked up a SATA drive to it, installed a Windows 7 on it and ran Apache, MySQL, Samba, TeamSpeak and also Call of Duty 2. It has only had an Atom 270 with 2 GB of RAM. Worked perfectly, I changed it only because I wanted to use RAID to store data securely.
Ubuntu is not lightweight Linux. It is more demanding than Windows 7
This.
Yeah Ubuntu is more like Mac os
Lubuntu or mint would've been more than perfect.
These struggle with labuntu even bodi runs like shit on them. However. Deluge webserver. With a VPN. Is a low cost alternative for a downloader. Or a remote gateway to your pc at home when your out and about.
@@MichaelGraham21 it still runs like shit on these.
in Half-Life
4x msaa is enabled in the steam version
you must be use the -nomsaa command in the launch options and test it again
edit : you playing the source version aka the most broken version
Since you can get an old optiplex for the same price range, that is what I would go with due to expandability. Proper desktop socketed CPU's, proper desktop ram dimms, proper sata connectors and full length PCIe slots, etc etc etc. Businesses and government offices dump them in bulk just like they do with thin clients.
I found these are good for an Emulation box. Put a simple linux distro on it then run Emulation station and they work quite well.
Love this channel
Yess
When I saw gameplay of a Tony Hawk game, I thought it was THUG Pro, which was a mod for Tony Hawk's Underground 2, but nope, it was Tony Hawk's Underground.
Hp thin client :exists
The cpu:I'm under heavy stress right now ok!
My Intel duo from 2006 is solid 100% in Windows 10. It perform much better than thin client. It run 30 fps in GTA 5 on low with no shadow.
@@technocody9296 barely
Loving the growth in production value, keep it up dude
Damn, you’ve got 10x the subscribers from when I subbed. Keep it going man!
Your videos are getting better. Funny, but not annoying, informative, and real (for me, cheapo stuff enthusiast). And that ambient music at the first half. Good job man, keep the hard work, but don't burn yourself. Cheers from Indonesia 😁
8:20 Tony Hawk's Underground! What a happy surprise!
Installing LibreElec & another light Linux distro makes these some really killer HTPCs & pretty good retro emulators. Since these are Enterprise units, companies regularly upgrade their hardware in cycles. You really can't beat these for only $20 to $30.
A cinebench score of 37, and u said its a beast.😂😂 Haha i loved that!
I built a Windows XP retro gaming PC in a T610 Plus thin client, which is a generation older than the one you got. It has a PCIe x16 slot and space for a low profile expansion card, so I installed a Radeon HD 7570 GPU and the latest drivers compatible with XP, and it runs everything short of Crysis. Excellent bang for the buck, and a great entry into the world of retro computing.
Any thin client which used XP embedded or its successor (you can find isos to download from the usual sources) can usually run XP Black Edition (fan supported repacks with modern drivers).
2:40 true meaning of parallel processing
In one place I worked in recently the thin client computers lasted at most six months. People used to laptops and desktops found the thin clients far slower and asked for them to be replaced.
2:58 but it has two DisplayPorts. Just get an adapter and you've got your HDMI port.
An adapter is probably more expensive than the damn PC
Nah the adapters go for less than $3 on eBay.
@@spillsndebris $3 more than i would pay for that thin client
@@20blog28 just got one of those to be used as a router. Great machine for that, as a desktop its totally outdated.
The funniest video yet well done mate
simpons hit and run? it was the first cars game for me
The general rule is... For lower resolutions, the CPU takes more of the load and CPU usage goes up. As screen resolution goes up, then the CPU usage lowers and GPU usage increases. This is best illustrated by testing a game in 1080p and then again in 4K. In the 1080 test CPU usage will actually be higher than on a 4K test run. Frame rate and frame time are closely tied to the CPU cycle rate. As pixel count rises, the GPU is offloaded the larger task of drawing more pixels, and the CPU frame time will reduce and as a result it can support more frames per second.
the moment you said "Let's talk about that", my mind IMMEDIATELY went to Good Mythical Morning...I've been on the internet for too long.
If there's one thing I can take out of this video is just the reinforcement that benchmarks are bullocks. What really matters is that the damn games ran fine! This machine would fit perfectly for my 90's games like Caesar 3, Total Annihilation, Interstate 76, Carmageddon, Quake/Quake2, Deus Ex, Thief, NFS Porsche, the list goes on and on...
At minute 4, i was absolutely surprised that this game ran hit and run so smoothly. When you first stated that the CPU was hitting 100% on the desktop, i thought you might have luck with duke nukem 1 or 2, not a 3D game. Interesting.
one more indicator that benchmarks don't really mean a thing, what matters is the game running
Mate this thing will run doom 3 pretty good
It ran better than I would have hoped. You have good taste. I like your game selection! All good wishes.
This is completely off-topic, but I am so surprised with how well The Simpsons Hit and Run has held up. Cartoony games always seem to keep looking great, even after many years. I suppose it's because it's not intended to look realistic, so it looks perfectly fine even after longer than a decade. What a classic that game was, haha. Thanks for the great video mate, always entertaining! :)
Loving your content. The price for entry with a thin client is so good for having a bit of fun. This is going to be my next project. Maybe. :-)
2019 Can we Game on this Rig? 2025 Can this open 1 tab of Chrome?
It honestly would be a nice computer to browse the web, read emails, do some Amazon/ebay shopping. Maybe even type up documents but the transfer speeds might be slow (depends on SSD I assume). A less demanding distro of Linux could help mitigate computer resources for other tasks.
Scanning for viruses though might take some time lol considering the cinebench score.
These HT t620 thin clients are great for a small home servers, IMHO even better than a raspberry pi.
They only draw around 5W and can be easily upgraded to 8GB of RAM and a bigger SSD. :)
Should have ran "debloating" scrpits, used win 10 lite or win 7 considering how win 10 is a resource hog also looked at how far away the ssd mounting hole is or compared the one you were getting to the existing ssd.
Gotta say youre one of my favorite youtubers, really love your content.
I'm here for the amazing gameplay.
Thats a gift for me. Browsing would be fun on a pc
Just thought i'd let you know that you tested Half-Life Source, it's a bit more taxing on the CPU, GoldSrc HL1 is the original
At least it proved HL2 might have a chance.
4gb RAM/8gb SSD is massive for one of these. Our thin clients have 1gb RAM and a 4GB DOM (it's basically a tiny SSD on a SATA plug) and they still drive dual 1440p monitors with ease.
I benchmarked a Celeron D 430 in Cinebench R20. One run took over an hour :D
What was the score?
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It got 64 in R20. Cinebench R15 it only scored 28!
@@BenchyTests ha amd e-240 in a laptop i have scores 22 on Cinebench r15
Thin clients are bloody useful and you get a shit ton of tech for little cash, I've got an HP running Home Assistant for the 3rd of the cost of an RPi 4 and it's awesome
Quite a few people are using them to run Klipper for 3D printers now that RPis are so stupidly expensive and hard to find.
We have these at our work with the Xeon E5-2650.
which model, because i dont think the t520 had no such option
I noticed with the specs right away that it would be a bit better than you were expecting, granted you stuck to games from around 2004.
This would have been a solid PC in 2002-ish. Not tip tier but really solid. The RAM actually would have been bonkers in that period but the CPU and GPU would have been very acceptable in 2004.
It obviously won't do any 3D gaming that's remotely modern but that's obvious before the test.
8 gig SSD? Not too surprised at that, but 4 gigs of RAM is overkill, probably even 2 gigs is. I wonder what all that RAM was used for since something like this shouldn't need much more than a gig of RAM and probably wouldn't be too noticeably slower with 512 MB.
Windows gobbles up heaps of ram
The Simpsons: Hit & Run is one of my favorite games of all time... Glad it got some love here. :)
Would it be possible to use this as a Windows XP light gamer? Some windows 98 games maybe?
98 might work, but it can only run 1 cpu thread (multi-core CPUs did not exist until many years later)
XP Integral Edition is a good go-to for machines these days (if you need XP). Fully updated and includes pretty much all drivers you'd need on the disc/iso for modern hardware. Also guts all the bloat and deprecated software and services.
Maybe do an external gpu and external psu upgrade and a few more key changes then why not 😂
I know your computer content is awesome but I cannot help but notice you've got a beautiful garden man
haha the 10 GB/s GPU memory bandwidth though...
I've been running one of these HP t620 units as an ESXi host since 2015. 32GB RAM (even tho the MFR says max 16, it works); 240GB m.2 ATA SSD, USB 3 HDDs passed through. 6 VMs running concurrently. No complaints. Maybe not good for gaming, but it's an absolute champ for running a NAS/web server, router/DNS/proxy host, HomeAssistant appliance, VPN router, a Windows 7 instance, and a Windows 10 instance, with capacity left for more if needed. I need another for a second location now. If you don't like it, mate, I'll buy it off you for more than you paid for it!
You should’ve ran a DP to HDMI cable to your capture card then! :P
I'm guessing he didn't have one of these. Understandable
I was about to buy one of these a couple weeks ago. I'm kinda glad I didn't.. Thanks for the reviews!
4gb of ram??
8gb of ssd??
That's a perfect arch workstation loaded with emulators
I run a Ubuntu server in 8GB storage. Runs pretty well.
Windows it's a crappy OS.
@@cosmefulanito5933 Its better than ubuntu🤣
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i liked the format of this video !!
Just be glad you didn't use Cinebench R20, U'd be waiting literally forever for it to complete.
the cpu (2 cores at 1.2 GHz) is puma based, the successor to the jaguar cores found in the Xbox one and ps4, and the gpu is gcn based (likely gcn2, running at 300 MHz), 2 compute units. so in essence this is a very limited game console. i suspect the gpu is doing most of the heavy lifting here.
i like and collect these kinds of things, underpowered hardware analogous to more capable ones, so I'll be looking out for these models on ebay
Got myself a bunch (9 in total) of these (4GB RAM and 16 GB disk).
I upgraded two devices to 8 GB of RAM and a 256 GB disk (for the first two use cases).
I identified the following use cases that work well for me:
- Ubuntu desktop running RetroPie
- Windows 7
- Pi-hole DNS ad blocking running on Ubuntu Server
- Unifi Controller running on Ubuntu Server
- pfSense Router using an additional USB 3.0 NIC adapter (may need to reconsider)
- Ubuntu Server running a few small Docker containers, just some lightweight ones
- Attaching an external USB 3.0 SSD to run Blobfuse to mount Azure blob storage, see docs.microsoft.com/en-us/azure/storage/blobs/storage-how-to-mount-container-linux
All in all, great for small workloads when understanding their limits.
Only downside is you need a display dummy adapter if you want to run this machine headless...
I was wondering if you could tell me a bit about emulation performance is like? I've been thinking of repurposing one as a retro console emulator box type thing. Thanks!
IS IT POSSIBLE TO SWAP THE PROCESSOR FOR AN INTEL OF THIS CPU OR NOT?
Perhaps interesting for some here to know, the t520 (AMD GX-212JC) also eats 1.5V DDR3 SO-DIMM RAM, has increased from 2 to 4GB, presumably you have 1.5V more in the drawer than 1.35V. For me the small one is a good alternative to the Rpi3B+/4.
Imagine your pc has 1 point cb after benchmark.
We don't live that long
you're entire existence will be render before the image
Probably crash the PC before it even started.
I saw someone score 0 cb with an Athlon 5350 underclocked to 800 MHz, and a 4K render in the background
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I made lanparty with 24 Pentium 4 computers (mostly Dell SFF cases) and it runs pretty good. Retro fun, and Pentium 4 are 3,0 GHz versions.
Thinclient are designed not run own windows, but streams mostly, that is why CPU is not great one, while GPU is better to support streaming.
I know many HP thinclients are just normal PCs, they have BIOS. Install Windows is no problem. But still, in some shops these thinclients have still sell value of 200 EURO so you're lucky to buy one for 25 EURO. So it's not always cheap. Only that are CHEAP are dumped old Pentium 4 systems because they have no use for most cases, while this type thinclient has still use in some business.
There are more thinclients, but don't but some WYSE thinclients. They are special made, pretty hardcoded and no BIOS. You cannot do much with Wyse. HP thinclients are much easier and you can turn them even in small mailservers or printerserver to run some printers at distance! Or firewall. Or music server, enough ideas.
You put big SSD inside, but they come also in smaller M2 versions, so they can mounted better and safer. It's good you can change easy memory and storage in many HP thinclients.
But, i should look in Pentium 4 machines, which are still a lot to find around and they're way cheaper and sometimes even free. Then you can run some old games like Quake and Unreal Tournament perfectly fine.
Another are Atom type small computers. Need do some checks with some Atom computers.
Which Linux distro was being shown at 1:48? I want to try it
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Backslash OS "Anna".
We had one of these at my old place of work. Literally its only job was to run our time-clock program for clocking in and out and half the time it couldn't handle that. (15 people used it max)
I got a better pc for 4 bucks. An Lenovo Thinkcentre m73 with a i3-4130T, 4gb RAM, and a 500 gb hdd (the sellers must’ve thought that it was a router)
straight up the funniest stuff i have seen in a while
Test google Stadia or any other streaming service on this thing
Chrome is an issue for these. The grunt of the cpu is more like a kitten meow.
GeForce now
I know from experience that when thin clients are introduced people put up with them for a few weeks & then start asking for a real computer. Before long the thin clients start to disappear. I am talking about in an office environment.
@RandomGamingHD How well would this run windows xp?
Well it would definitely run better than both 7 and 10 but you'll be limited to what applications you'll be running
even win 7 will run ok if you dont clog it with apps on startup and run one app at a time . Xp would run no big deal perfect but drivers and safety win 7
Really enjoyed the new background music.
Why is this running better than my Toshiba NB 200 (300$)
Because laptops are way too expensive compared to their preformance?
@@motia4888 That makes sense
Man, I really like your content, but this video was especially glorious... please keep up the dry humor!
I'm pretty sure that was Half-Life Source, not Half-Life 1 wasn't it? Or am I just dumb?
Looks like HL1 lighting, but I may be wrong.
@@theRealChadWarden42069 I spotted the gun movement and the decals that the crowbar left on the walls. They dont look like ones from the original. They look like the ones from Half-Life 2
I can tell you from personal experience that a dell optiplex is a great way to spend your money if you get a good deal. I got one used for 275 usd and a AMD rx 480 for around 21 usd. It can play most games at about 60 to 100 fps.
Please do some emulation on this lil guy(at least ps1 and N64).
Or even more: install linux with LXDE/LXQt as DE and then try emulation. Because i suppose win really eats performance.
Excellent selection of games to illustrate what can be realistically achieved on such humble hardware. It was a relief to not see an attempt at running Witcher 3/GTA V/anything else equally unsuitable for the platform. I picked up a pair of similarly sized HP EliteDesk 800 G2 from a corporate scrap program for next to nothing. Replacing the included WD Black 500 GB HDD with a bargain basement SSD yields a great media player/actual light use desktop (i5 6500T). The only local game I tried was Portal (fine up to 720P), but otherwise for streaming games from my "actual" PC or Xbox One - no issues. One is even running a tiny VMWare ESXi lab.
WTF LOL. this CPU sucks so that badly, even the Pentium 4 HT would demolish it
I had the same COU in a laptop (e-1200, duel core, same 1.2 GHz, same 37-39cb score). It was dreadful, chrome took 35 seconds to open up, and why it ever came from the factory with Windows 8.1 is beyond me! I downgraded to 10 and it was so much worse... 1 minute to open Chrome! Put Linux on it, and it was actually useable! Most tasks were 7x faster or more. Running 3d printing software to convert object into machine code for the printer to run would take 5 seconds on Linux vs 40 seconds on Windows (or 1 minute on Windows 10). So it was faster to shit down and restart into Linux if it was a 10 second workload! That’s how I loved Linux! It’s still even noticeably snappier, even on my TR-1950x at 4.15 GHz all 32 threads with quad channel 3600 MHz RAM and quad crossfire for triple 4k workstation and 4k Ultra gaming (100 fps in Crysis 3 at 4k Ultra vs my Titan Xp at only 45 fps, it’s quick!). My Cinebench score is 100x higher (almost exactly, graphics power is nearing 1000x higher...).
You may be wondering why I enjoy these quirky/odd super low spec videos then... well, it’s to remember what I had, and how thankful I am to be blessed and enjoy the super nice hardware! I actually love playing retro gaming too, because that was basically all the potato could run, so once in a while I fire up a game on my insanely fast (by comparison) HD3000 integrated graphics Linux laptop just so the frame rates stay below 40 fps on ultra low settings for super light weight Linux retro style/inspired games. Sure I could fire it up on my GTX 1070 laptop (currently outbenching most desktop overclocked 1070s), but it’s just not the same jaggy stuttery gameplay I used to enjoy you know? It’s better in every way, but it’s just not the same, so I use the lowest spec I’ve got for the memories (I still wouldn’t use that e-1200 though, that thing was so bad, when it went missing I felt bad for whoever stole it... I actually celebrated, lol!).
@@jakegarrett8109 What linux distro did you use? I tried Ubuntu on my laptop that has a E-1500 1.48 GHz, and it was slower than Windows.
Tristris 389 Ubuntu was much faster for me (Puppy Linux is much much faster if your only browsing the web though, Midori is the browser I use for systems with under 1 Gb of RAM when paired with Puppy). I’m not sure how yours could possibly be slower, Ubuntu even makes my Ryzen chips noticeably much faster, and when light on resources like my laptop e1 was, it was a life saver! So I’m not sure why yours is having an issue, that’s very strange, I don’t know how that could possibly be or why, beats me!
@@jakegarrett8109 Doing anything under Ubuntu, even opening the app tray was crazy slow. The CPU was pegged at 100% about 70% of the time. Some systems will run great under Linux, but not any of my E series laptops. I had the E-1500 and a E-450, both were crazy slow under Ubuntu. For slow systems, I'll use Windows 8.1, It has proven to be the fastest for me.
Tristris 389 That’s really weird, Windows 8.1 took 35 seconds to slice a 3d object into machine gcode while faster than Windows 10 at 40 seconds, Ubuntu blew it away at under 5 seconds (it was roughly 7.5x faster). E1 1.2 GHz. These were in line with general use ability.
That’s what I’m not sure is going on, because I’ve never seen windows win on any hardware for most of my stuff (gaming might be he only exception since Linux often gets ports, although Steam Proton really changes that).
The only thing I can think of is you may have made the Linux partition stupid small, or disabled swap/insufficient swap size (page-filing in Windows terms), or if you ran it from a USB stick (then yeah, it’s gonna be 20x slower if you just live booted from a USB thumb drive).
I'd say an old optiplex + used GPU seems like a better combo for gaming, even if the cost will be higher
It is NOT original Half-Life. It is Half-Life source.
Shame on you.
The HP T620 with the AMD dual core GX-217-GA at 1.65 Gigahertz with 8 Gigabytes of RAM and a 128 GB SATA ( No NVME for these) M.2 SSD runs Windows 7 Pro 64 bit very well.
Has two USB3.0 ports, Radeon 8280e graphics and the audio circuitry is capable of highrez high bitrate audio and is very low noise. Also has a line-in and line-out on the back and a Headphone and separate Mic jack on the front. Have used it as an audio source for tape recording. There is an HP T630 with a 2 GHz AMD Quad core but costs a bit more.
How did you get so many Subscribers? I'm still waiting for my First One!
Nice try but no
@wakenbaker-uk Wat?
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The 512MB GPU in this HP thin client is pretty much the same as my previous 256MB MSI Radeon HD 2600 Pro AGP card in my Athlon 64 X2 4800+ build at 2.4GP/s & 4.8GT/s, which I was stuck with as my main system until I finally upgraded in 2015.
This is a router...
Nevermind.
It could run better with a debloated install of Windows 10.
You could also give Windows Thin PC a try. Essentially a normal 7 install with reduced features. Much better than Starter.
Did you just say zee and not zed .. blasphemy xD
T620 is a solid retro gaming machine you can take with you on a vacation visiting mother at law. Saved me alot of boring moments at her house lol