AMD FX Series CPU's are like a Fine Wine, They just got better with age especially with Multi-Core Optimization being added into games, It's given new life to our FX Series Chips, especially the "Piledriver" micro-architecture chips.
Absolutely, the first generation fx chips were a bit of a disaster but at least they were cheap, i used an fx 6100 for years and that multi core performance makes it pretty damn stable nowadays in comparison to other older chips with less cores like my other old pc with a dual core i3 2120, that one definitely didn't age as well
I think I like watching videos of older PC's being updated/ upgraded more than a video on $1500 or more high end pc being built lol. Perhaps because I cant afford a high end pc anytime soon 😂
Oh yeah the AMD ones are easier when you know how to do them. To bad I'll probably always have Intel. Although for a few budget builds I might make I do have AMD AM3 CPUs, but for my main PC it will most likely be intel.
@@virtualtools_3021 I've never seen those, I've only seen FX one( dunno what socket they are) and AM3 coolers and the AM3 coolers are pretty well done, although the specific one I have is a bit better than most of those but they are still much better than the Intel ones. Or do you mean get a ryzen?
i doubt you live in the uk then, a 1050 here even second hand is over £100 right now, and someone would legitimately bite your arm off, season it and then consume it for a price close to £70
An interesting build. Personally, I prefer an RX 560 4GB as a 75 watt budget buy for less money than a 1050. Interested in those round speakers on your desk. What are they?
You are starting to become my favorite Uploader. The FX platform is a misunderstood beast remember the FX6300 is just a FX 8320 minus two cores and a slightly less clock speed. I would love to see a video of this overclocked these chips overclock really well . The problem with these Processors is they where out at a time when most games and applications where only using 4 cores i remember arguing with Intel fans on Toms Hardware because they said my PC was shit and i should get a Intel 4670k if i remember right these proccessers are unlocked out the box so you can overclock the crap out of them i had my FX 8320 at 4.2GHZ on air on Ryzen 1700 now but i did have this solid setup for 5 years with zero issues at all Thanks Joe
I have one in my first gaming pc. It has a FX 6100, 970 mobo and put a rx 570 into it last year. It does good for low/medium setting gaming in some titles. I have it slightly overclocked as well.
Just about to retire my Phenom 2 X4 965 (with GTX 750Ti, though it carried the GTX 1060 for a while as I finalized some parts for the new build). The FX, unlike the Phenom, should also have the instruction set to run Apex Legends PS. Most awful heatsink fitting... installing a bolt through with multifit mount, with motherboard in the case... I had hair when I started!
May I suggest: 1) Take out the power supply and take it to a local garage and use some compressed air to clean out the dust. It IS in there; trust me. 2) Put a $22 SSD drive in it to run the OS. They are cheap and plentiful now. No 'game machine' should be without one. Use the HDD as a game storage drive. Ready for Steam. 3) Put a decent CPU cooler on it. There is nothing wrong with the FX series. They can take a little clocking if you have an adequate cooling solution. 4) A 1050 is OK, but now that the video card market has too many cards, their prices are falling fast. And used cards are now fairly priced. Pop a 1060 in there with the aforementioned mods and it should work a treat. 5) Use/purchase a $10 DMM and always test the battery voltage. Seen too many people miss this point and it could create problems if that little, cheap battery isn't quite up to snuff . . . I have two machines with 8350's, and they work quite well, not as good as the 8700K machine I've built; but they hold their own in gaming just the same. Wouldn't mess with the 6100; put in a 4350 - or better.
@6:32 I wouldn't recommend re-using cable/zip ties. The "lever" as you called it is a tension mounted injection plastic piece. Yes, it's true, that with a small flat head screw driver, you can reduce the tension and uncouple a cable/zip tie, but that tension is never quite right after that and in a warm PC case the cable/zip tie can let go of the notch it's engaged in comes loose. Cable/zip ties are extremely cheap to acquire, so I would recommend that if wiring needs to be moved, just carefully cut it off and use a new cable/zip tie. Also, you should never, ever.... Cinch the zip tie really tight, as it can cause damage to the wire inside the wire wrap. Simply put the wire how you want it and leave a few clicks on the zip tie, so you can remove it easily if needed, and you aren't over stressing the copper core of the wire. I've spent years installing internal "low voltage" wiring in businesses and building computers in my spare time, and I've always left just a little slack in the zip ties, for those reasons.
Hello Mate. I like the simplicity of your videos.No annoying useless music, No over acting, no fancy talking- JUST REAL YOU , straight to the point. Keep it up . Greetings from Shillong, Meghalaya, India
Why don't you mount the 120mm fan in the front? Saw that you have a slot there and will really help this system, it has a small hole to grab air but even so will still help moving air around. Give it a try.
FX-8350 with Titan Xp here. My GPU has 12 GB Vram, but my system only has 8 GB RAM... If I use Linux, I can use Vram as system RAM, so I guess technically that helps me get to 20 GB total... yarg, you got me beaten in Chrome tabs!
Yuck Foutube The Titan at 4k is incredibly slow and underwhelming. My main system is over 2x the FPS of what the Titan was capable of (TR-1950x and quad Fury). I would have put it on my Ryzen 1700 test bench, but meh... I’m also doing long term testing on insulation/waterproofing for phase cooling. FX-8350 at 1.7 Vcore is still below 0c core temps full load (-35c block temps under load, -60c idle), and if something happens (I’m testing pin rust in particular, socket is packed with Vaseline, thermal paste or dielectric grease is the typical recommendation for CPU moisture proofing), then I’d rather it mess up a worthless old FX. And since any CPU is basically fast enough for the Titan, might as well put one of my highest heatload chips on it to get greater temperature swings. The Titan was alright for this project (it’s actually like 3x louder than my compressor, yikes!). I basically just needed a “meh” quality GPU for the system that could do good enough in less demanding games that I’d get more useage on this experiment and testing platform, and the Titan was long retired anyways since it’s not really fast enough for 4k gaming, so it was available as the test card.
Great video man. A silly thing I like to do when I buy old PC's with a HDD is run CrystalDiskInfo. Some of the oldest HDDs ive had have had over 30k hours of use! Might be a silly little test to add to your videos
The only problem that exists with this setup is this GTX 1050. This garbage can not take anything and can even compose with a Ryzen 5 3600 that the result would be the same !!!!
Your struggles with AMD heatsinks is understandable. My first PC was an fm2+ platform, and the first thing I did with it was replace the CPU. Fitting the new heatsink over it was literally the worst.
The weakness of the FX line was the feature, which was supposed to be it's selling point: the Clustered Multi-threading. If a game/software was optimized for it, it performed quite well. If it was not however... the software force two float-heavy thread (rendering, usually) on a single module, competing for an already weak FPU (Floating Point Unit). It will also introduce latency, as the module's FPU scheduler have to switch back and forth between the two thread. In games, it will tank the FPS and cause stuttering. In synthetic tests and optimized games, the FX performs really, REALLY well, but a badly ported game will stutter out like hell.
I do Sata cables last too. I think because I like getting the power delivery done first. Also sata connectors suck and are easily tugged. p.s. I have a Phenom II 1100T Black Edition system, if you ever want to test one of those :P
I'll never forget my fx6100 and gtx650ti, I played all kinds of games with those. Sold it to a friend who used it with an hd7770 and played Witcher 3, Rainbow 6 Siege, Dark Souls trilogy... I believe it's still going strong with a third owner and a 1050.
Good idea to buy brushes for dusting harder-to-reach areas. And optionally multi-purpose spray (electronics-compatible). Tech Yes City recommends it. Minimum I'd recommend for a _pleasant_ minimum experience: - Older Intel Core i5+ or newer Core i3+, AMD any Ryzen. - 8+GB DDR3+ RAM (2+channel). - 2+GB G/DDR5 GPU for 45+ FPS minimum gaming (Crysis maybe 30+). - SATA 3/SAS/M.2 SSD for games (at least for largest capacity games). - 720p native for extreme-resource games, 900p native for mixed-resource games, 1080p native for less-resource games. For older PC(s) you're keeping: - Optionally mod case by removing unneeded drive bays (drill out 'rivets'?). - Optionally paint fully or in parts (can tape certain areas for even-more custom graphic/design). - Optionally add anime/cartoon stickers. - Optionally change cables for better ones. Like UV-colored SATA or thin/sleeved IDE. - Optionally add LED lighting fans/strips. - Optionally drill extra holes for cooling (can use tape to 'map out' where to drill, like sideways or all sides). - DO change PSU for efficient one to save money, lower heat and noise!
I've sold my old PC and replaced the Phenom II in it with an FX 6300 and overclocked it to 4.3 GHz. Surely not the best CPU, but fast enough for most titles. In another PC I've coupled a 8350 @4.8GHz (it does 5GHz, but the cooler can't handle 5) with an GTX1080 and this thing is still a really good gaming machine. Maybe it would be somewhat faster with a modern cpu, but it takes the witcher 3 at 1080p to around a 80 to 100 fps. So i'm ok with that. Even if it's not beating the i7 7700k. I should really sell some of my old Hardware 🙈
My current rig is an AMD FX-4100 quad-core running at the stock 3.6 GHz, 8gb (2x4) of Patriot EL1600 DDR3 RAM, a Gigabyte GA-M63MT-S2 motherboard, and a PNY GeForce GTX 1050 Ti XLR8 4gb graphics card w/ 6-pin PCIe power connector, all housed in a Thermaltake V3 Black Edition case. A friend gave me the computer, though it originally came with an ATI Radeon X850XTPE 256mb GDDR3 graphics card, a 180gb Seagate Barracuda HDD, and a Thermaltake TR2 430W power supply. I took out the old HDD, GPU, and PSU, put in a 120gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD and a Western DIgital Caviar Blue 1 TB HDD from a previous build, bought a new 1050 Ti for it, and installed a new Thermaltake SMART 700W PSU that another friend gave me since he didn't need it. I did a slight OC on the 1050 Ti using MSI Afterburner, and I can run Doom (2016) on high settings at 1080p around 50-60 FPS, though sometimes it drops to ~30 FPS when it gets busy. My frames also drop in mutiplayer games with lots of people in major cities, so I'm thinking I'm being CPU bottlenecked. I'll try looking for a used Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge, or Haswell K processor and motherboard so I can reuse a lot of my parts.
im still rocking a FX-4100 got it paired with a passive gigabyte GT1030, this system can play most things up to the last year or so and it barely runs Forza horizon 4 on Dynamic low settings and Apex Legends on lowest but given how cheap the parts im running are its impressive. Greetings from mid Kent
@@mattblackbeard Missing verb in first sentence. What's with the "u"? Underrated (is one word...). Missing article in 3rd sentence (a or the million). BTW: a million what? Dollars, Kilos, Miles? And really? 'got'? 'GOT'?? Too lazy or too dumb to use proper English? Sad. 😢
Most zip-ties aren't meant to be reused, that wouldn't be very economical. Some, tho, do have a piece you can pull back right where the end comes out. If you want to reuse zip-ties you can stick something thin, like a small screwdriver, a hairpin or a paper clip, up along the toothed side of the tie.
These kinds of videos and your hardware retrospectives are why I've become a fan of your channel. :) I have an FX4100, but I don't really use it anymore when a friend gave me an R5 3600. That said it's still available to use if something happens to the Ryzen rig.
As someone who has bult many a PGA462 AMD rig (Athlon XP3200+ and Sempron mainly) I'll attest to how much of a pain their heatsinks used to be to install.. You literally had to use a screwdriver to push the locking latch into its designated place on the socket. It required a metric ass tonne of force and there's a damn good chance if you're not careful, you'll put a hole in the mainboard. With PGA939 and onward they changed the latch system because of the smaller, more densely pinned sockets and with that they became way easier to install.
If you want to remove a cable tie without cutting just insert the pointy end of another tie into the toothed side gap of the nub. This will push aside the little lever that holds everything in place and you can pull the tie apart,
@@littlegloom It's 2019, so I think 1080p30 high should be the minimum targeted. I said high settings because those can be used for some less demanding games, and medium settings for like Metro Exodus. And it will also sort of future proof the pc a bit.
With the 6100 now being 9 years old, it's surprising how usable it still is. It's not gonna get you much in modern titles, but for a 9yo budget-mid range CPU, it's not horrific. Spending £30-40 on an FX 6300 would be a smart upgrade though, using 1600/1866mhz RAM. I would say the 8300 series, but they sometimes still go for Ryzen 3 money.
I ran an FX 6300 and a GTX 760 on a 900p monitor for about 5 years till the end of 2018. The system still works, though it's showing its age a lot right now.
Watching this video on a system with an FX-8350 Black edition and an RX 480 8GB The cpu is definitely the bottleneck, but I can still run DOOM 2016 at 170fps on Ultra with the Vulkan API
>Trusting the completely garbage power supply. The 275W unit that came with my Dell has more power than that thing. Eww. And no. No PC hardware is designed to go with questionable power supplies. That's just complete bonkers.
Since you are cleaning up so many old PCs, I was wondering if you have used a 'Compu Cleaner' before. It's a small handheld air compressor meant for PC cleaning. I think it would nice to have to keep my rig clean, because I don't like to use canned air, but haven't bought one yet because I'm not sure if it's worth 60 bucks.
Personally I do SATA cables last, because connectors on HDD/SSD are very fragile and you can bump the cable by mistake and crack plastic piece of connector. It happened to me already and while you can glue it back, I rather have it not break at all. Same goes for power connector for SATA drives. Leaving it for last reduces the risk.
This is going to sound crazy but, when I was taking the sticker res off the PC I used WD-40 and noticed that the plastic looked brand new after wiping it away. So I wiped down the whole Dell PC with the WD-40 and after about 8 months the PC looks like there isn't any dust on it and still looks brand new. Now I wipe down all my PCs with WD-40. I also restored my Razer Lycrosa with the rubber coated key. First used Windex, but that turned all the keys kind of white, then sprayed it down with WD-40 and all the keys came back to black. Then I let it sit unused for about a week and the keys were not slimy or sticky and it's been about 4 months now and there isn't ay dust on them and still looks brand new. I got the idea from Tech Yes City and his method works.
I have a FX-8350 Black Edition here and a few years ago I upgraded it with a Wraith cooler, a lot better than that stock fan, its mainly on light server duty these days
I think I have the exact same motherboard, but with an intel socket. (I’m about to build a new PC because this one is quite old). Weren’t the front panel pins too far for cable management?
This was some excellent content. The whole process of cleaning and tidying cables up was really satisfying. I'd really like to see more of that! Thanx for the upload and stay awesome!!
@@SummonerArthur 8 years is pretty old especially when it comes to PC parts. But old doesn't mean it is bad. I am still rocking an old Dell inspiron E4310 as my main on the road laptop and that thing is about 9 years old now and putting Linux on these sort of machines makes them a lot snappier. Well to be honest putting Linux on any kind of PC makes it snappier. Compared to "bloaty" Windows 10. More headroom and less background stuff going on in Linux. Which makes it faster especially on slower hardware.
Titan Xp with my 8350, and it’s only the Titan that limits it (at 4k, pretty much no GPU will hit 60 fps, so FX is more than adequate and certainly plenty for any of today’s single GPUs). FX can still hold up strong! Highly underrated processor.
picking up another pc tmmr. for $150, it has a Haswell Xeon E3-1231 v3 which is basically a i7-4770, 16gb ddr3, 240gb ssd, 500gb hdd, AMD R9 270, and whatnot.
Started with the FX-4100 in August/September 2013, upgraded to the i5-2500k in November 2016 & currently on a Ryzen 3 1200 for the past couple of months, will likely upgrade to the Ryzen 5 2600 or if my ASRock AB350 Pro4 gets the BIOS update for the new 3000 series CPUS then I'll likely go for the cheapest 6 core of those.
1% low below 30 fps probably due to cpu limitation basically means that you will get freeze frames every time you get shot at because that is one of the most computationally intensive parts.
Can you please test the FX 4300 in 2019? I know it's not good to use out-dated parts but I was wondering how it would handle an RX 570 or GTX 1660 perhaps. Or something like that. It would be interesting to pair it with a used GPU for a budget build considering the FX 4300 costs £18 on CeX also DDR3 ram is so cheap on CeX though it might be hard to get an AM3+ motherboard.
I have a PC that has a FX-8320 and a R9 270 with 8GB of DDR3 RAM running at 1600MHz in dual-channel config, and apparently on preset settings, Overwatch runs decently from what I understand. Unfortunately, neither bringing down the settings nor bringing it up to some higher settings improves it; in fact, it worsens it. But I think it's still a fine PC.
I was remembering about you because a computer that I'm refurbishing, an AMD 8 CORE witch a good friend gifted to me a couple of months ago, I tune an old case with spray paint, putted an 120gb SSD + 3TB + 2TB HDD, a 700W power supply and I only need a graphic card to "release the craken". Regards from Paraguay
I have fx 6300(Gammaxx 400) on a low end n68c gs4 fx mobo @3.8ghz with turbo disabled and Undervolted to 1.2v and RX 560. My mobo is only 3 phase i think you can go 4.0 or 4.1 and turbo disabled and an Undervolt as well with your motherboard to reduce the stuttering.
I think those AMD clip coolers are the easiest to install lol. I've had quite some Intel and Intel alike pushpin coolers having their pins break off when reapplying them
PC that I fixed up seems like somewhat of a capable gaming PC as well, has an AMD Phenom x4 9650 quad core CPU with 4 gb ddr2 ram and an Nvidia GTX 285 with an Intel 330 series 180 gb ssd.
FX6100 is my main system and you can do more with it. I use 16GB 1600Mhz and a RX570 and I can crank up to medium or high in most of games. FX Bulldozer is not that bad.
I like the color matched sata cables. I was running a fx 6300 with an rx 470 for a long time. treated myself to a ryzen build recently(mainly just for modern features). I haven't really gamed much recently, so can't tell you how much of an upgrade it was
I ran a 8320e @ 5ghz with a r9 390. Ran everything great! I sold it late 12/2017 and now running 2600k with Rx 580. Only got old parts because I'm waiting on zen 2 and Navi!
Ah I see you overcroc'd it.
hahaha nice one
Lol. Best comment ever! 🐊
Thanks, Lyle! lol
r/punpatrol you're under arrest
But it's clearly undercroc'd. ;p
"I showed you my crocs, please respond"
I like the crocs on the thumb nail, true pc master race
crocs master race
Crocs. Which part of the world are they still popular with adults?
@@zzygyy literally everywhere except wherever you're from
@@JesusMeza3 Los Angeles here. They are good for beach and boating..
haha yes
“Almost like I’m cleaning a crime scene...” *Nervous laughter*
You know it’s a budget channel when he is talking about reusing zip ties!
I've done it.
So have I. All it requires is a small/thin and sharp objects, and some patience.
@@dollarstoredearleader1609 a little flat precision screwdriver is best.
@@1pcfred I just tend to use a knife (a pocket knife of course).
@@dollarstoredearleader1609 I could see that working. I've always used a precision screwdriver so that's just what I use.
AMD FX Series CPU's are like a Fine Wine, They just got better with age especially with Multi-Core Optimization being added into games, It's given new life to our FX Series Chips, especially the "Piledriver" micro-architecture chips.
Yep! Still using my FX-8350 w/32GB of ram and it still does what I need...
Absolutely, the first generation fx chips were a bit of a disaster but at least they were cheap, i used an fx 6100 for years and that multi core performance makes it pretty damn stable nowadays in comparison to other older chips with less cores like my other old pc with a dual core i3 2120, that one definitely didn't age as well
Nobody:
Tech review channel: This, is a cardboard box.
10/10 IGN
The PC inside the cardboard box doesn't outperform the empty box by very much either.
lol
Without a GPU you wouldn’t of seen anything so a 100% improvement
Most chipsets have some sort of GPU but they aren't anything good
First its "have", not "of" and something is not 100% more than nothing....
@@harrym1862 i believe that the fx series cpus do not have any built in graphics.
@@poeskey The chipset itself handles the integrated GPU, the one on the chipset of this board runs at 350MHz and shares ram with the processor.
@@poeskey nah I cant speak for all of them but the fx 6200 has one
I think I like watching videos of older PC's being updated/ upgraded more than a video on $1500 or more high end pc being built lol. Perhaps because I cant afford a high end pc anytime soon 😂
Just put a car radio in and someone complimented me on my very meticulous wiring. Thanks RGHD!
I think that 1050 might have been my old GPU, I traded that exact model at cex.
Good to see it went to a good home.
AMD heat sinks are difficult? Wha? They are far easier the the pushpin stock Intel ones.
MUCH easier, and safer.
Exactly. Hooking those can be tricky even if you have clearance, but I much prefer those to the Intel jobs.
Oh yeah the AMD ones are easier when you know how to do them.
To bad I'll probably always have Intel.
Although for a few budget builds I might make I do have AMD AM3 CPUs, but for my main PC it will most likely be intel.
@@tilburg8683 what about the ryzen ones
@@virtualtools_3021 I've never seen those, I've only seen FX one( dunno what socket they are) and AM3 coolers and the AM3 coolers are pretty well done, although the specific one I have is a bit better than most of those but they are still much better than the Intel ones.
Or do you mean get a ryzen?
The winner of the thumbnail was the exposed toe thru the sock.
You thought we'd miss it?!
If he sells that pc maybe can buy a new pair of socks.
it's right there on wikipedia
Byte Syze I think the PC is now at least 150€ worth
@@mr_tea753 gucci socks
Lol
i found the same 1050 For £45 on Shpock flipped it for £70
Hi rich boi
Good
i doubt you live in the uk then, a 1050 here even second hand is over £100 right now, and someone would legitimately bite your arm off, season it and then consume it for a price close to £70
@@flyde6521 it was a joke because he was making profit and that is a piece of being rich
@@flyde6521 1060 3gb are like £100
I used the FX-6300 w/ GTX 960 for several years, up until last October.
It actually worked pretty well!
I still use a Fx 6300 and GTX 760. Planning to upgrade once new zen CPUs are out
An interesting build. Personally, I prefer an RX 560 4GB as a 75 watt budget buy for less money than a 1050.
Interested in those round speakers on your desk. What are they?
They let you hear sound from your PC.
Generic ones, 3.5mm plug, usb powered. meh sound, but loudy. can be found like "klip extreme" or "genius" brands
@Ian Goschman There are a few models that do not require a 6 pin connector
@Ian Goschman Look up the MSI Aero RX 560, it uses no power connector
@Ian Goschman Yes, they are severely downclocked versions
I had an overclocked FX-6100 and GTS 450 for a long time... I loved that PC, was very usable even when I sold it.
You are starting to become my favorite Uploader. The FX platform is a misunderstood beast remember the FX6300 is just a FX 8320 minus two cores and a slightly less clock speed. I would love to see a video of this overclocked these chips overclock really well . The problem with these Processors is they where out at a time when most games and applications where only using 4 cores i remember arguing with Intel fans on Toms Hardware because they said my PC was shit and i should get a Intel 4670k if i remember right these proccessers are unlocked out the box so you can overclock the crap out of them i had my FX 8320 at 4.2GHZ on air on Ryzen 1700 now but i did have this solid setup for 5 years with zero issues at all
Thanks
Joe
I have one in my first gaming pc. It has a FX 6100, 970 mobo and put a rx 570 into it last year. It does good for low/medium setting gaming in some titles. I have it slightly overclocked as well.
Just about to retire my Phenom 2 X4 965 (with GTX 750Ti, though it carried the GTX 1060 for a while as I finalized some parts for the new build).
The FX, unlike the Phenom, should also have the instruction set to run Apex Legends
PS. Most awful heatsink fitting... installing a bolt through with multifit mount, with motherboard in the case... I had hair when I started!
May I suggest:
1) Take out the power supply and take it to a local garage and use some compressed air to clean out the dust. It IS in there; trust me.
2) Put a $22 SSD drive in it to run the OS. They are cheap and plentiful now. No 'game machine' should be without one. Use the HDD as a game storage drive. Ready for Steam.
3) Put a decent CPU cooler on it. There is nothing wrong with the FX series. They can take a little clocking if you have an adequate cooling solution.
4) A 1050 is OK, but now that the video card market has too many cards, their prices are falling fast. And used cards are now fairly priced. Pop a 1060 in there with the aforementioned mods and it should work a treat.
5) Use/purchase a $10 DMM and always test the battery voltage. Seen too many people miss this point and it could create problems if that little, cheap battery isn't quite up to snuff . . .
I have two machines with 8350's, and they work quite well, not as good as the 8700K machine I've built; but they hold their own in gaming just the same. Wouldn't mess with the 6100; put in a 4350 - or better.
@6:32
I wouldn't recommend re-using cable/zip ties. The "lever" as you called it is a tension mounted injection plastic piece. Yes, it's true, that with a small flat head screw driver, you can reduce the tension and uncouple a cable/zip tie, but that tension is never quite right after that and in a warm PC case the cable/zip tie can let go of the notch it's engaged in comes loose. Cable/zip ties are extremely cheap to acquire, so I would recommend that if wiring needs to be moved, just carefully cut it off and use a new cable/zip tie. Also, you should never, ever.... Cinch the zip tie really tight, as it can cause damage to the wire inside the wire wrap. Simply put the wire how you want it and leave a few clicks on the zip tie, so you can remove it easily if needed, and you aren't over stressing the copper core of the wire. I've spent years installing internal "low voltage" wiring in businesses and building computers in my spare time, and I've always left just a little slack in the zip ties, for those reasons.
Hello Mate. I like the simplicity of your videos.No annoying useless music, No over acting, no fancy talking- JUST REAL YOU , straight to the point. Keep it up . Greetings from Shillong, Meghalaya, India
If it can run Just Cause 4 above 15 fps, it's a competent system in my book
Why don't you mount the 120mm fan in the front? Saw that you have a slot there and will really help this system, it has a small hole to grab air but even so will still help moving air around. Give it a try.
I´m still unsing an Fx8350 with an gtx 970. But with 32gb ram...
FX-8350 with Titan Xp here. My GPU has 12 GB Vram, but my system only has 8 GB RAM... If I use Linux, I can use Vram as system RAM, so I guess technically that helps me get to 20 GB total... yarg, you got me beaten in Chrome tabs!
Yuck Foutube The Titan at 4k is incredibly slow and underwhelming. My main system is over 2x the FPS of what the Titan was capable of (TR-1950x and quad Fury). I would have put it on my Ryzen 1700 test bench, but meh...
I’m also doing long term testing on insulation/waterproofing for phase cooling. FX-8350 at 1.7 Vcore is still below 0c core temps full load (-35c block temps under load, -60c idle), and if something happens (I’m testing pin rust in particular, socket is packed with Vaseline, thermal paste or dielectric grease is the typical recommendation for CPU moisture proofing), then I’d rather it mess up a worthless old FX. And since any CPU is basically fast enough for the Titan, might as well put one of my highest heatload chips on it to get greater temperature swings. The Titan was alright for this project (it’s actually like 3x louder than my compressor, yikes!). I basically just needed a “meh” quality GPU for the system that could do good enough in less demanding games that I’d get more useage on this experiment and testing platform, and the Titan was long retired anyways since it’s not really fast enough for 4k gaming, so it was available as the test card.
1:29 is what you came for.
What is your sock situation, I am very confused.
Pc master race doesn't care about socks
@@czrptr6849 I am confused because it looks like he is wearing a sock but the bottom half of his foot is poking through.
@@poot111111 he got holes in his sock
Got a license for that screw driver?
Most cable ties are not reusable and need a small pair of side cutters to remove them.
Great video man. A silly thing I like to do when I buy old PC's with a HDD is run CrystalDiskInfo. Some of the oldest HDDs ive had have had over 30k hours of use! Might be a silly little test to add to your videos
30k hours is nothing lol, try 60-70k
@@TriforceBiH I have one HDD with 57k hours and it's 10k rpm hdd. One of them still works, but another one died.
@@TriforceBiH Bro did you just fucking brag about using a hard drive more often? Holy fuck my sides 😂
The little holes on Crocs is where your dignity runs out of.
Dayuuum, 127 views.
Never been that early so far. Have a happy Easter :)
Timothy Simple You too!
@@MarusiFyren thank you 🙂
Flexing on us with those crocs huh
Gamer?
Nigga?
The beginning made me laugh 😂
“Now this is a cardboard box”
That thumbnail..
My brain: WHAT ARE THOSSEEEEE!!
*C R O C S*
what gpu did you use on the no.4 cinebench at 9:00? im using a gtx 710 & an i5 2320 and im getting 836 on cinebench
I always do SATA cables last. I broke one off motherboard before while installing components. Ruins a day quickly.
The only problem that exists with this setup is this GTX 1050. This garbage can not take anything and can even compose with a Ryzen 5 3600 that the result would be the same !!!!
I love my Opteron 6386SE ("16-cores" Piledriver-FX equivalent) and R9 390 build.
fx 6300 here. Still love this processor but very much looking forward to an upgrade.
Your struggles with AMD heatsinks is understandable. My first PC was an fm2+ platform, and the first thing I did with it was replace the CPU. Fitting the new heatsink over it was literally the worst.
Just as much satifaction in throwing together a PC using old parts than building a new one. Nice video thanks.
The weakness of the FX line was the feature, which was supposed to be it's selling point: the Clustered Multi-threading.
If a game/software was optimized for it, it performed quite well. If it was not however... the software force two float-heavy thread (rendering, usually) on a single module, competing for an already weak FPU (Floating Point Unit). It will also introduce latency, as the module's FPU scheduler have to switch back and forth between the two thread. In games, it will tank the FPS and cause stuttering.
In synthetic tests and optimized games, the FX performs really, REALLY well, but a badly ported game will stutter out like hell.
I do Sata cables last too. I think because I like getting the power delivery done first. Also sata connectors suck and are easily tugged.
p.s. I have a Phenom II 1100T Black Edition system, if you ever want to test one of those :P
I'll never forget my fx6100 and gtx650ti, I played all kinds of games with those. Sold it to a friend who used it with an hd7770 and played Witcher 3, Rainbow 6 Siege, Dark Souls trilogy... I believe it's still going strong with a third owner and a 1050.
Good idea to buy brushes for dusting harder-to-reach areas. And optionally multi-purpose spray (electronics-compatible). Tech Yes City recommends it.
Minimum I'd recommend for a _pleasant_ minimum experience:
- Older Intel Core i5+ or newer Core i3+, AMD any Ryzen.
- 8+GB DDR3+ RAM (2+channel).
- 2+GB G/DDR5 GPU for 45+ FPS minimum gaming (Crysis maybe 30+).
- SATA 3/SAS/M.2 SSD for games (at least for largest capacity games).
- 720p native for extreme-resource games, 900p native for mixed-resource games, 1080p native for less-resource games.
For older PC(s) you're keeping:
- Optionally mod case by removing unneeded drive bays (drill out 'rivets'?).
- Optionally paint fully or in parts (can tape certain areas for even-more custom graphic/design).
- Optionally add anime/cartoon stickers.
- Optionally change cables for better ones. Like UV-colored SATA or thin/sleeved IDE.
- Optionally add LED lighting fans/strips.
- Optionally drill extra holes for cooling (can use tape to 'map out' where to drill, like sideways or all sides).
- DO change PSU for efficient one to save money, lower heat and noise!
I've sold my old PC and replaced the Phenom II in it with an FX 6300 and overclocked it to 4.3 GHz. Surely not the best CPU, but fast enough for most titles.
In another PC I've coupled a 8350 @4.8GHz (it does 5GHz, but the cooler can't handle 5) with an GTX1080 and this thing is still a really good gaming machine. Maybe it would be somewhat faster with a modern cpu, but it takes the witcher 3 at 1080p to around a 80 to 100 fps. So i'm ok with that. Even if it's not beating the i7 7700k. I should really sell some of my old Hardware 🙈
My current rig is an AMD FX-4100 quad-core running at the stock 3.6 GHz, 8gb (2x4) of Patriot EL1600 DDR3 RAM, a Gigabyte GA-M63MT-S2 motherboard, and a PNY GeForce GTX 1050 Ti XLR8 4gb graphics card w/ 6-pin PCIe power connector, all housed in a Thermaltake V3 Black Edition case. A friend gave me the computer, though it originally came with an ATI Radeon X850XTPE 256mb GDDR3 graphics card, a 180gb Seagate Barracuda HDD, and a Thermaltake TR2 430W power supply. I took out the old HDD, GPU, and PSU, put in a 120gb Samsung 840 EVO SSD and a Western DIgital Caviar Blue 1 TB HDD from a previous build, bought a new 1050 Ti for it, and installed a new Thermaltake SMART 700W PSU that another friend gave me since he didn't need it.
I did a slight OC on the 1050 Ti using MSI Afterburner, and I can run Doom (2016) on high settings at 1080p around 50-60 FPS, though sometimes it drops to ~30 FPS when it gets busy. My frames also drop in mutiplayer games with lots of people in major cities, so I'm thinking I'm being CPU bottlenecked. I'll try looking for a used Sandy Bridge, Ivy Bridge, or Haswell K processor and motherboard so I can reuse a lot of my parts.
im still rocking a FX-4100 got it paired with a passive gigabyte GT1030, this system can play most things up to the last year or so and it barely runs Forza horizon 4 on Dynamic low settings and Apex Legends on lowest but given how cheap the parts im running are its impressive.
Greetings from mid Kent
thos games love single core performance which fx donsnt have sadly
Fx 6100 is 23$ on aliexpress, if you want upgrade
Why ur channel so under rated.....u
Got such dope content man.......I hope u hit million soon 🙏🙏🙏🙏
@Melanie L what's wrong with the English plz tell me...son
Mayank Mangla ignore them man, they’re just being assholes
Ur was an old city in ancient Mesopotamia...
@@mattblackbeard Missing verb in first sentence. What's with the "u"? Underrated (is one word...). Missing article in 3rd sentence (a or the million). BTW: a million what? Dollars, Kilos, Miles? And really? 'got'? 'GOT'??
Too lazy or too dumb to use proper English? Sad. 😢
@@eknaap8800 not here to send my resumè to amazon . Just wrote slang language.
Most zip-ties aren't meant to be reused, that wouldn't be very economical. Some, tho, do have a piece you can pull back right where the end comes out. If you want to reuse zip-ties you can stick something thin, like a small screwdriver, a hairpin or a paper clip, up along the toothed side of the tie.
These kinds of videos and your hardware retrospectives are why I've become a fan of your channel. :)
I have an FX4100, but I don't really use it anymore when a friend gave me an R5 3600.
That said it's still available to use if something happens to the Ryzen rig.
Putting Linus' socks and sandals to shame with crocs and socks
As someone who has bult many a PGA462 AMD rig (Athlon XP3200+ and Sempron mainly) I'll attest to how much of a pain their heatsinks used to be to install.. You literally had to use a screwdriver to push the locking latch into its designated place on the socket. It required a metric ass tonne of force and there's a damn good chance if you're not careful, you'll put a hole in the mainboard. With PGA939 and onward they changed the latch system because of the smaller, more densely pinned sockets and with that they became way easier to install.
9:08 why is the i5 4670k shown twice in the list at considerably different performance levels? (8 and 16)
One score is for single thread performance and the other score is for multi thread performance.
Honestly really like the budget aesthetics. Thats one sexy red fan and heatsink :o
If you want to remove a cable tie without cutting just insert the pointy end of another tie into the toothed side gap of the nub. This will push aside the little lever that holds everything in place and you can pull the tie apart,
an SSD would be an even better upgrade
Hey Steve, are you going to start using the new Cinebench version any time?
I just recently tried to get things running on a old FX 6300. I paired it with a GTX 750ti from Asus I had lying around.
i use an fx 6300 with 14gb of ram and a 1050Ti. it works great considering i build the pc from scratch and spent £215 on the whole system
14gb of ram, what is your configuration? Seems like you would be losing some performance.
video idea: “What are the minimum specs for 2019?”
That would be awesome. What it takes to run modern games on high settings 1080p30 on a budget.
@@Raress96
Minimum specs never really means 1080p high settings though
@@littlegloom It's 2019, so I think 1080p30 high should be the minimum targeted. I said high settings because those can be used for some less demanding games, and medium settings for like Metro Exodus. And it will also sort of future proof the pc a bit.
Rares Serban something in that direction
the gloomy kid maybe 720p30, or atleast playable
With the 6100 now being 9 years old, it's surprising how usable it still is. It's not gonna get you much in modern titles, but for a 9yo budget-mid range CPU, it's not horrific. Spending £30-40 on an FX 6300 would be a smart upgrade though, using 1600/1866mhz RAM. I would say the 8300 series, but they sometimes still go for Ryzen 3 money.
I *hate* the AMD way to lock the heatsink in place.
The lever to lock-unlock *always* breaks after some time.
Nothing can be worse than Intel's LGA775 push-pin system. Those things are evil.
@@dyter424 nah, you can get used to those and they will stop breaking.
But that lever, no matter what you do, it will break.
I ran an FX 6300 and a GTX 760 on a 900p monitor for about 5 years till the end of 2018. The system still works, though it's showing its age a lot right now.
Watching this video on a system with an FX-8350 Black edition and an RX 480 8GB
The cpu is definitely the bottleneck, but I can still run DOOM 2016 at 170fps on Ultra with the Vulkan API
>Trusting the completely garbage power supply.
The 275W unit that came with my Dell has more power than that thing. Eww.
And no. No PC hardware is designed to go with questionable power supplies. That's just complete bonkers.
Since you are cleaning up so many old PCs, I was wondering if you have used a 'Compu Cleaner' before. It's a small handheld air compressor meant for PC cleaning. I think it would nice to have to keep my rig clean, because I don't like to use canned air, but haven't bought one yet because I'm not sure if it's worth 60 bucks.
Great Video. Still have a few 939 Motherboards around, I`ll have to try them with a 1050 now. Happy Easter.
You can send me one if ya want :P
Personally I do SATA cables last, because connectors on HDD/SSD are very fragile and you can bump the cable by mistake and crack plastic piece of connector. It happened to me already and while you can glue it back, I rather have it not break at all. Same goes for power connector for SATA drives. Leaving it for last reduces the risk.
01:32 "Just to make sure we get rid of any fingerprints"
Remind me not to piss you off
My friend still rocks a FX 8320E, I was using a I3 6100 till recently when I bagged a 2400G for £85.
This is going to sound crazy but, when I was taking the sticker res off the PC I used WD-40 and noticed that the plastic looked brand new after wiping it away. So I wiped down the whole Dell PC with the WD-40 and after about 8 months the PC looks like there isn't any dust on it and still looks brand new. Now I wipe down all my PCs with WD-40. I also restored my Razer Lycrosa with the rubber coated key. First used Windex, but that turned all the keys kind of white, then sprayed it down with WD-40 and all the keys came back to black. Then I let it sit unused for about a week and the keys were not slimy or sticky and it's been about 4 months now and there isn't ay dust on them and still looks brand new. I got the idea from Tech Yes City and his method works.
I think the amd heatsinks are a hundred times easier to install. I have always trouble installing the new Intel ones
Same, intel should be using screws for their stock cooler instead of plastic pins
How can you have issue pushing 4 pins into a slot?
@@Mico605 Imo are harder to align than the amd ones
8 gb is bad for new games, with an fx 8320 in bo3 the fps went from a stuttering 30 to a smooth 80-90 with just 16 gb vs 8.
Just want to say, I really enjoy your content and I hope your channel continues to grow!
I have a FX-8350 Black Edition here and a few years ago I upgraded it with a Wraith cooler, a lot better than that stock fan, its mainly on light server duty these days
SATA cables last is good practice as the connectors on drives break easily if you knock the cables when fiddling with other bits inside
I also put Sata Cables in last but I don't know why.
I think I have the exact same motherboard, but with an intel socket. (I’m about to build a new PC because this one is quite old).
Weren’t the front panel pins too far for cable management?
This was some excellent content. The whole process of cleaning and tidying cables up was really satisfying. I'd really like to see more of that! Thanx for the upload and stay awesome!!
is the hp elite 8200 CMT bigger than this ??
For older systems like this it might be an idea to see how Linux or another Alt OS works on it.
For fucks sake
Since when is this old?
@@SummonerArthur It is 8 years old so yes this is getting pretty old.
@@dave7244 no way 8 years is old. Holy crap.
15+ years old i would agree...
A pentium III is old.
Whatever AMD is that is not old.
@@SummonerArthur 8 years is pretty old especially when it comes to PC parts. But old doesn't mean it is bad. I am still rocking an old Dell inspiron E4310 as my main on the road laptop and that thing is about 9 years old now and putting Linux on these sort of machines makes them a lot snappier. Well to be honest putting Linux on any kind of PC makes it snappier. Compared to "bloaty" Windows 10. More headroom and less background stuff going on in Linux. Which makes it faster especially on slower hardware.
@@SummonerArthur8 years in the PC world is quite a long time considering the market is only 3-4 decades old.
i have AMD FX 6350 4gz and ram 16BG ..video card RX 580 ..FPS 30 to 60.. its fine all games
Fx 6300 at 4.1ghz stock volts and a GTX 670 plays my games fine as well.
Titan Xp with my 8350, and it’s only the Titan that limits it (at 4k, pretty much no GPU will hit 60 fps, so FX is more than adequate and certainly plenty for any of today’s single GPUs). FX can still hold up strong! Highly underrated processor.
I agree totally although I don't do gaming. The FX-8350 is still a great CPU for other tasks.
Me, sitting in a new pair of croc's, unboxed (packaged, last month). Oh and older pairs still get in use around the front and back garden.
picking up another pc tmmr. for $150, it has a Haswell Xeon E3-1231 v3 which is basically a i7-4770, 16gb ddr3, 240gb ssd, 500gb hdd, AMD R9 270, and whatnot.
Me: " looks at thumbnail"
Weird flex but ok.
Started with the FX-4100 in August/September 2013, upgraded to the i5-2500k in November 2016 & currently on a Ryzen 3 1200 for the past couple of months, will likely upgrade to the Ryzen 5 2600 or if my ASRock AB350 Pro4 gets the BIOS update for the new 3000 series CPUS then I'll likely go for the cheapest 6 core of those.
1% low below 30 fps probably due to cpu limitation basically means that you will get freeze frames every time you get shot at because that is one of the most computationally intensive parts.
I use an FX4300 now at @4.41GHz oc.
Can you please test the FX 4300 in 2019? I know it's not good to use out-dated parts but I was wondering how it would handle an RX 570 or GTX 1660 perhaps. Or something like that. It would be interesting to pair it with a used GPU for a budget build considering the FX 4300 costs £18 on CeX also DDR3 ram is so cheap on CeX though it might be hard to get an AM3+ motherboard.
I too struggled with the first clippy flippy cpu cooler retention gadget I dealt with.
I have a PC that has a FX-8320 and a R9 270 with 8GB of DDR3 RAM running at 1600MHz in dual-channel config, and apparently on preset settings, Overwatch runs decently from what I understand. Unfortunately, neither bringing down the settings nor bringing it up to some higher settings improves it; in fact, it worsens it.
But I think it's still a fine PC.
I was remembering about you because a computer that I'm refurbishing, an AMD 8 CORE witch a good friend gifted to me a couple of months ago, I tune an old case with spray paint, putted an 120gb SSD + 3TB + 2TB HDD, a 700W power supply and I only need a graphic card to "release the craken". Regards from Paraguay
I have fx 6300(Gammaxx 400) on a low end n68c gs4 fx mobo @3.8ghz with turbo disabled and Undervolted to 1.2v and RX 560. My mobo is only 3 phase i think you can go 4.0 or 4.1 and turbo disabled and an Undervolt as well with your motherboard to reduce the stuttering.
I think those AMD clip coolers are the easiest to install lol. I've had quite some Intel and Intel alike pushpin coolers having their pins break off when reapplying them
PC that I fixed up seems like somewhat of a capable gaming PC as well, has an AMD Phenom x4 9650 quad core CPU with 4 gb ddr2 ram and an Nvidia GTX 285 with an Intel 330 series 180 gb ssd.
FX6100 is my main system and you can do more with it. I use 16GB 1600Mhz and a RX570 and I can crank up to medium or high in most of games. FX Bulldozer is not that bad.
I like the color matched sata cables. I was running a fx 6300 with an rx 470 for a long time. treated myself to a ryzen build recently(mainly just for modern features). I haven't really gamed much recently, so can't tell you how much of an upgrade it was
My second pc is the FX 8350 with an R9 390x, to be fair it's not far from my Ryzen 1600x with a GTX 1070.
I ran a 8320e @ 5ghz with a r9 390. Ran everything great! I sold it late 12/2017 and now running 2600k with Rx 580. Only got old parts because I'm waiting on zen 2 and Navi!