This. I grew up playing and got into my share of fights on the ice as a teenager. I never felt angry at the other guy afterwards. It’s very cleansing, if you get my drift. A primal “ah, I am alive and I love it” feeling.
Great reaction! Please more hockey videos!! The Beauty of Hockey is a must. Best saves. Best dangles. Best snipers. Anything by Hockey Psychology, etc.
That first inquiry you had was super insightful. Yes, the amount of potential danger present in the game from the sticks, hard pucks, speed and hard boards (no out of bounds) makes for a crazy mix if the rules were less harsh. And yes, you can injure someone very easily , so if the refs didn’t see it, or can’t technically call a penalty, the players will keep each other in line 🤘
2:58 this is precisely why. Hockey is a fast sports and sometimes emotions can be high. Hockey fight are essential because it can keep the game from turning violent. Sometime emotions are high, players start to play dangerously so two players drop the gloves (fight) to settle it. Also the reason why it works in hockey and not other sports is because when you fight in hockey, you have to control your balance since you are on 2 skates, this reduce the amount of force you can generate with your fist so its quite rare to see actual "knockouts" when 2 players are fighting. Therefore, hockey fights are way less violent than 2 people fighting normally
Just so you know, yes, compared to all of the team sports I know of, there are a lot of fights in hockey, but if you start watching hockey you will see that's the smallest part of it.
2:58 Nailed it! You should take a look at the video "This is why fighting is allowed in pro hockey" by Business Insider. It talks about what you were saying and I always felt like it was a nice addition to "The Code" video!
Also 13:55 When a fight reaches the ground refs step in. But you can also see them step in if nothing happens. Like sometimes they just circle each other and no punches are thrown, at some point refs just break it up. But other times, you get a great fight with punches for like 30+ seconds. But at some point, refs can see players are tired and not throwing anymore so they step in and just break it up. We almost never see players get mad because they know both of them are dead tired.
@@USACULTURESHOCK Season runs from June and the Championship game ( The Grey Cup ) happens in late November. There's plenty of cool stuff you could probably react to from the most recent Championship match the other day.
Fighting in hockey is why Canadians are so nice. We get out all our frustrations watching them or actually doing it. Then we go off and have a beer and we’re all friends again. 😊
The game is so fast paced the refs cannot see everything. Fighting keeps the game and the players in check. It makes the sport safer for players. Fun fact the first official hockey game ended in a brawl😂
You know those stories old people tell you about how much tougher things were back in their day? Walked 15 miles to school in snow. Hockey is the equivalent of that in the sports world.
This is how real men play sports. It ensures no man is above anyone else. Everyone is encouraged to stay within their boundaries or pay the price which in some cases is quite unpredictable. Bin skating since I was 2 years old and my father drove the local Zamboni working for the city where I live in central Ontario Canada. Hockey is big here, there is more rinks than churches. Some of the best hockey to watch is provincial. It’s the stage of hockey before you make money and the games are clutch. Guys fighting to get hired and make a career from hockey.
They had to implement a rule that you can't leave the bench if there's a fight. Before that there were bench clearing brawls. Sometimes the players even go into the crowd after fans chirping.
The refs stay out of it so they don't get hurt but jump in when the guys are tired...also they move gloves and sticks outta the way some times so the guys don't slip on them and posdibly crack their heads on the ice
the retaliation for bad behavior extends to all future games. once you are down,, the fight should stop. these guys are true athletes. such a great sport, much faster than Amer football
If you want a great example via story of how these rules work, watch a video about the Brawl in Hockeytown (Rivalry between Detroit and Colorado in 1997). The story involves lots of rules and how they ended up enforcing them, with a HUGE brawl between the two in March of 1997. Great video! Glad you're enjoying hockey - it can be intense, but super fun!
Too funny them showing Brad Marchand when explaining antagonizers. 😂😂😂 He is the king of it. And the best fights were Red Wing , Avalanche brawls of the late 90’s. And it all started when Claude Lemieux of the Avs. Drove Kris Drapers face into the half wall, breaking his Jaw. This fighting went on for a cpl. Of games. Remember this very well as I am a Red Wing fan.
At 4:40 mark is Tod Bertuzzi and this hit to the ice broke that young mans neck and ended his career, Bertuzzi was sanctioned, kicked off his team and floundered in the league for a few seasons then left the game in disgrace.
My friend this hockey code should be the book for every facet of life. Your actions have consequences. It's not violence life is tough. It would be a better world if we would all follow this code. Consequences are a real deterrent
Fighting has historically been part of the game since the 1800s. Some history books say that the number of players from rural areas or players of a certain class (no shame) frequently settled conflict with boxing or just plain old punching and scuffling. They carried this practice over on the ice if needed. So while fighting is not part of the game, it's normalized in the Canadian part of the game, though still technically outside of it or discouraged. The Canadian game is known for being tough and physical, while still skills-oriented and fast. For a new person watching hockey for the first time, it must seem funny to have a boxing match break out in the middle of a game :) There are some that say allowing fighting prevents cheap shots like cross-checking and high-sticking. As a Canadian that grew up with this, it's quite normal to my eyes.
They fight for many reasons. The officials can't see everything and calls are missed. There are players who are skilled, but not fighters, that get targeted and they need defending. There are injuries that won't make a player quit, but will get the guy who injured them dealt with. There are things said during the game that will have to be answered for. There are old beefs, and new rivalries. There are times when a player will fight to lift his whole team up, to get their blood stirring But mostly, there has to be a release valve. These players could kill each other. They have knives on their feet, and they carry sticks. Sometimes there just has to be a fight or two as a lightning rod or someone will be very baldly hurt.
A Star player can go at another Star player. That clip shown during that Rule was the Jets' current Captain Adam Lowry #17, he's a Star, the guy he hit was #89 Alex Tuch, he's not a star although he did have one really good season with the really bad Buffalo Sabres in 2022/23. The Golden Knights sent their goon Ryan Reeves #75 after Lowry, Lowry won that fight. That was November 2, 2019. FF to April 11, 2023 and Reeves is now playing with the Minnesota Wild vs the Winnipeg Jets. Reeves didn't forget his loss 4 seasons earlier and challenged Lowry again. Lowry won that fight too. Adam Lowry can hit whoever the hell Adam Lowry wants to hit.
This guy had a British accent. He is not 100% accurate on this 1: fighting is a 5 minute penalty, starts and stops with game time. 2: the fight is over when one player’s knee drops to the ice 3: half of all fights have nothing to do retribution. If the game is boring two fighters will happily and peacefully challenge each other to a fight to hype up the crowd and their teammates. 4: some fights happen because your team is losing by a lot and you’re either trying to amp your team up or you’re trying to break the momentum of the opposing team. 5: you absolutely are allowed to back down. You are allowed to turtle. If one player doesn’t want to fight, the challenging player will get a 2 minute penalty for instigating. This also happens if one player drops their gloves and the other one doesn’t. Not every player is a fighter. I could probably go on but this guy is not the source. Ask an actual hockey player. Preferably one without a British accent.
To quote former NHLer Chris "Knuckles" Nilan: "... when two guys gets so pissed off at each other, maybe because one guy stuck a stick in his ribs, and then he finally says 'I've had enough' and wants the drop the gloves and break his nose... it makes guys think twice sometimes about taking liberties with other people if there's someone there that can come and settle things down."
It's a misconception that all fights break out over an offense that someone has made. There's the odd time that it makes an advantage on the scoreboard.
I was the same way when I was first formerly introducted to hockey; I did not understand why fights were "allowed". There is an old saying "I was watching a fight and a hockey game broke out". That applied much more in the 70's, 80's, and most of the 90's when entire benches would clear for a fight. Check out the Detroit Red Wings vs. Colorado Avelanch rival of the 90's which started when Colorado's Claude Lemieux took a cheap shot against Detroit's Chris Draper.
@@mikejanssen6344 You're living in 2005 if you believe that. Also he was never a cheap shot artist. He just complained more than the average rookie. Ovi was the real cheap shot artist.
When I first started playing hockey bro I swear it was hard to watch my teammates get hit hard , cross checked , slashed aggressively, etc . I’m a goalie and I’m from the hood so my mentality was always to fight for and with your friends . I was wylin during the beginning because as a goalie you see so much shit and you not supposed to do anything . I would just attack people but with good reason lmaooo
It keeps you honest. A pressure valve needs to be released once in awhile or sticks start to get high and guys can get cheap. You see two guys kicking the shit out of each other, you think..... O.K back to hockey. For now.
Check out the video of when at a hockey game in canada where the mic whent down during the american national anthem, without skipping a beat the entire areana filled with canadians finished singing the american national anthem..
A big reason why fights are still “allowed” in hockey and every other sport they’re broken up immediately is because they are on ice. Despite these guys being basically just as comfortable on skates as in shoes on the regular ground, when fighting it’s different. Throwing punches and throwing your weight around and pushing and pulling your opponent leads to most fights lasting under a minute and only a handful of punches being landed until someone loses their balance and goes down and the fight is over. If this was allowed in basketball for example, fights would be way worse because it’s much easier to throw and land punches with no equipment in the way and having much better balance not on ice. So the severity of the fights would be way worse
3:00, why? Because that’s how Canadians have historically solved their issues amongst themselves. Chuck knuckles, pick up your teeth, and let’s be friends.
Refs might also stop a fight for a few reasons. It's an obvious mismatch of fighting skills. Sometimes a player is exhausted near the end of his shift and another is fresh. During the fight, one or both fighters may get worn out. Whenever there is a reason to believe that one or the other has an unfair advantage for whatever reason. Refs can also stop a fight if they feel that fighting or general roughness is taking over the game. If the fights have gotten carried away that could get the game out of the refs control. By stifling the fights early and penalizing one or both teams heavily, it's sends a message to everyone that it is time to get back to clean hockey or penalties will be called that could give a distinct advantage to just one team. Basically if tempers gets too hot, refs will put the fires out with heavy penalties. Enforcers have a job, but it's also up to the refs to keep everyone in check as well. Cheers.
You have it exactly right. Its for the safety of the players. They are moving extremely fast, with sticks in their hands and blades on their feet. Ironically, it keeps the players safer as a fight wont end a career but a slewfoot at 50k into the boards can end a career.
To be clear, the days of the old school goon are long gone. Nowadays, the enforcer role also requires more skill, than in years past. They’re not just there to fight, and hit, or intimidate… They are expected to produce on the scoring sheet, as well. That was not always the case.
The refs will stop a fight if there's any blood, if the fighters are too tired to keep throwing fists or if it's a lopsided beatdown. If they both fall to the ice they refs will stop it, if one fighter falls the other is expected to skate away. The hardest part about fighting is staying on your feet, that's why they cling to each other's jersey like a Joey to it's mother's teat. There's a funny story about why jerseys need to be tied down; Enforcers used to try pulling each others' jersey over their heads or remove their own so it couldn't be done to them. On May 17th, 1995 Canucks Enforcer Gino Odjick aka The Algonquin Assassin decided to break every rule in the Invisible Enforcer Handbook by taking on every St. Louis Blue on the ice losing his helmet, jersey, all his shoulder, chest and elbow pads, then after trying to fight everyone on the Blues bench he skated around topless getting the crowd fired up. It's something right out of Slap Shot, there are videos of the incident. RIP Gino.
The inherent danger in the game is indeed part of it, sometimes it might be better for two dudes to square up and wail on each other than have a guy smashed full speed into the boards causing a career ending injury. But with what we know about CTE and concussions the repeated head shots are still questionable.
The old adage: i went to a Rangers Devils fight and a hockey game broke out. Def should check out "the beauty of hockey" 1 and 2 to get a sense of the overall game and skill involved.
Hockey is the greatest sport ever hands down!! You’ll love watching the games best atmosphere out of all the sports and the hardest and best trophy to win it all The Lord Stanley Cup!!!!
I would also like to add I'm originally from a hockey city, in Canada 🇨🇦, which produced many NHL, WHA & other Pro league enforcers. Thunder Bay, Ontario Canada 🇨🇦 (former cities of Port Arthur and Fort William, also known as The Lakehead) sitting at the western end of Lake Superior. Players like: Connie "Maddog" Madigan; Bill "Goldie" Goldthorpe ( read his book); Bob "Battleship" Kelly; Trevor Johansen; Lee Fogolin Jr; John Schella; Bruce "Rammer" Ramsay; Wally Presenger; etc., etc. This is the same city that has produced The Staal Brothers (most recent); Alex Delvecchio; Tony Hrkac (the Hrkac Circus); etc., etc. Just Google Thunder Bay Pro hockey players.
Good question at the end there. If the refs sense the players are really tired it have taken a lot of damage, they’ll step in and break them up. Great reaction!
you put it very well, youre accountable. you can very much see when fights are going to happen..playoffs host some big brawls because tension has built up over the series look up the Ottawa Senators full team brawl video.
Rarely is there someone going over the line in fights. It's actually based on a ton of respect, for the most part. But there are times where men playing a competitive contact sport are going to get angry. Sometimes it's best to let them fight and get it out rather than let them try and take cheap shots throughout the game. I love hockey fights
The real reason fighting is "allowed" in hockey, is because the alternative is much worse. Someone would eventually get killed if they didn't allow them to vent their frustrations. Body checking IS legal. It's better to let 2 guys beat each other up than have someone have their neck broken by a malicious check from behind. As for when the refs break a fight up, it's usually after they can see that the players are getting tired, and they've worn themselves out. A lot of the refs are no slouches either.
I think part of the reason why fighting is big in the nhl is because they naturally have so much protective gear on. if fights like the ones in hockey happened in other sports, like basketball, they would be much more painful/serious due to the lack of equipment
4:40 - Vancouver's Todd Bertuzzi #44 was trying to get the Avs' Steve Moore #36 to turn around and fight because Steve had taken a cheap shot crosscheck on Canucks Captain Markus Naslund which caused him to be taken out of the game with an injury. Steve was scared shitless of Big Bert who was dogging him all over the ice, slapping him in the head, rubbing his face with an open glove (it's like sandpaper) and getting in his space begging for a fight, that's when Steve tried to stop, turn and turtle rather than face Bert, a big cowardly no-no, which caused them both to fall to the ice where Steve's neck was broken by their weight. Steve should have just dropped the gloves and taken a couple punches to the face.
Yeah. That was a freak accident. Everybody attacks Bertuzzi for it without considering he had just seen his teams captain and best player, as well as being his best friend, lying on the ice unconscious and bleeding after Moore cheap shotted him with a dirty elbow to the head. Moore never should have been in the ice with only a few minutes left in what was a blowout. Tony Granato was an absolute ass for putting Moore on the ice knowing how volatile the situation was.
@@burkanuck Also it was Steve's own admission that he consciously turned to his left and exposed his back to Todd in order to avoid a fight. If Steve had turned to his right and met Todd head on, as most players would have done, they would have settled it the old fashioned way. Steve admitted that he did not want to fight and his instinct was to duck and cover when Bertuzzi came at him which was the reason Todd wasn't found liable and allowed to continue playing in the NHL. The same can't be said for Marty McSorley's stick attack on Donald Brashear's head that was 100% intent to injure, Marty never played in the NHL again but Brashear luckily did recover and play again. That was brutal and hard to watch, I saw both those games as they happened.
Yo this is wild. Apologizing for Bertuzzi breaking someone's else's neck who refused to fight in a hockey game. Sure guys. It was justified. Whatever helps you sleep at night, crazy dumbfucks.
As a life long Boston fan, the hate towards Marchand cracks me up. You know he's good at what he does when everyone hates him, but would love him if he were on their team.
You take a cheap shot at me there will be hell to pay. I was a goaltender so very few fights. Opponents had to be reminded once in a while that my stick was bigger than theirs. Get too close to my crease and you risk your ankles. Chop, chop. Best fights, Johnathan vs Bouchard, and that small incident in Madison Square Garden where the Bruins climbed over the boards and fought the fans.
I'm hitting 60yrs old & remember the NHL (and hockey in general) from the 1970's, 80's & 90's. The 1970's had many (maybe too many) fights & bench clearing brawls (not just line brawls). The 1980's were much like this also. I like a good fight but it seems like the NHL of today, the fights are "staged". Go back and check out some NHL games from the 70's & 80's. Check out UA-cam videos of one of the biggest rivalry in hockey & maybe even all of NA sport. Montreal Canadians vs the Quebec Nordiques. Fights in the stands, fights on the ice. Fights were mean spirited. Unfortunately Gary Bettman (NHL President) is afraid to bring the Nordiques back to Quebec City. The NHL is some Sanitized.
some players found a workaround search "Brent Gallant vs Krys Barch helmet rule NY Islanders vs NJ Devils 9/19/13 NHL Hockey" but yeah its a gay rule or players should just just agree to each take the penalty and make the game 4 on 4 lol
Exactly one reasons is for stick work as some plauers are vicious with thete sticks but hits from behind and so forth markblack fights is my son in minor pro hockey coming up
This one is quite old one, nowadays fighting is still there, and code still exists, but its not as prolific as it used to be, there are basically no goons anymore except few, but they are also good players and are not there just to fight, most of them are 3-4 liners to prevent opposition of scoring, penalty killing specialists and so on, some are/was even decent scorers. About when refs intervene... either when someone is down, bleeding or it just takes too long them to start, sometimes there is just that so called "dance" but nothing really happen, so refs just separate them, give 5 each and game goes on. Good fights are rarity in modern NHL hockey, coz new rules were implemented to kill fighting as much as possible, tho it is still there, and time to time we get really great ones.
And to bounce off this point, the NHL squashing fighting was to try and lower head injuries that players were receiving, but there's actually a marked increase in those head injuries after the newer rulings and the removal of the "Goons". Oddly enough, it seems that allowing players to throw elbows while going 30mph on ice with no real repercussion outside a 2 min penalty....causes even more concussions then a few good hits to the head.
The part this video skipped over is how it became interwoven into the sport. The NHL is over 100 years old. Originally there was only one ref and the sport is very fast. Hockey back in the day was BRUTAL and the single ref missed almost all of it. *The enforcers existed out of necessity*. Over time another ref was added then 2 additional linesman. The need to self police is much less these days, how ever the refs still miss stuff, players still do scummy stuff. There are very few true enforcers left. Especially now that we understand the impact of bareknuckle boxing on the brain. Sometimes i feel guilty that i love a good fight. but good god when the stars align and a goalie fight breaks out there is nothing better! i love my sport.
It's a high energy sport. It's a self made mecanism to protect the players. You do not need to fight on most common receipts. If they cannot replicate the crime, then a fight will be done.
the rule is it's gotta be a one on one, so if anyone else joins in the refs will break it up. They will jump in if a player goes to the ice, a player is deemed to be injured in any way and if they suspect a player has anything on his hands so people can't like tape their knuckles and shit. They also are supposed to control the tempo of the game so the more fights in a game the more likely they are to jump in right away and stop it. Been watching the past few videos brother and the video your looking for is this one ua-cam.com/video/SwDy0Jzket0/v-deo.html by What The Puck!. It's a 30 min video of all the filthiest goals of all time going back to like the 90s some of them. It's 4 years old now so it's a bit outdated but seriously if that's what you're wanting there is no other video. Also another unwritten rule of hockey is that if any goal that goes 'bar down' (the puck hits the crossbar and then goes in) that goal is always considered filthier or way more impressive and mad bonus points the louder the ding off the crossbar is so keep that in mind when watching any clips Loving this so far
Yeah it’s technically not allowed, but is allowed lol you will get a penalty in game maybe even thrown out depending on circumstances, but unlike NBA say, you won’t get suspended, fined etc. so yeah it’s a “foul” but essentially like a flagrant foul nothing more lol
Nice ☺ I didn't expect another Hockey video but I like it 😁🏒🥅🏒 thank you, we appreciate you, this is fun 👍 Love from Canada 🍁❤
Glad you enjoyed it!! And thank you so much 😊
I love hockey the only sport where you can literally leave all your emotions on the ice.
This. I grew up playing and got into my share of fights on the ice as a teenager. I never felt angry at the other guy afterwards. It’s very cleansing, if you get my drift. A primal “ah, I am alive and I love it” feeling.
Back in the day there were “bench clearing brawls” regularly. The entire teams from both sides all fighting at the same time.
I miss it.🤣
Great reaction! Please more hockey videos!! The Beauty of Hockey is a must. Best saves. Best dangles. Best snipers. Anything by Hockey Psychology, etc.
Thanks! Will do!
That first inquiry you had was super insightful. Yes, the amount of potential danger present in the game from the sticks, hard pucks, speed and hard boards (no out of bounds) makes for a crazy mix if the rules were less harsh. And yes, you can injure someone very easily , so if the refs didn’t see it, or can’t technically call a penalty, the players will keep each other in line 🤘
This, exactly. A lot of it goes around the injury potential of your action and, to a lesser extent, the swiftness of a response from referees.
2:58 this is precisely why. Hockey is a fast sports and sometimes emotions can be high. Hockey fight are essential because it can keep the game from turning violent. Sometime emotions are high, players start to play dangerously so two players drop the gloves (fight) to settle it.
Also the reason why it works in hockey and not other sports is because when you fight in hockey, you have to control your balance since you are on 2 skates, this reduce the amount of force you can generate with your fist so its quite rare to see actual "knockouts" when 2 players are fighting. Therefore, hockey fights are way less violent than 2 people fighting normally
That makes a lot of sense thank you so much 😊
Just so you know, yes, compared to all of the team sports I know of, there are a lot of fights in hockey, but if you start watching hockey you will see that's the smallest part of it.
When I grew up watching hockey, the players didn't wear helmets and their padding was a lot less technical. Those were the good old days. LOL🇨🇦💙
2:58 Nailed it! You should take a look at the video "This is why fighting is allowed in pro hockey" by Business Insider. It talks about what you were saying and I always felt like it was a nice addition to "The Code" video!
Also 13:55 When a fight reaches the ground refs step in. But you can also see them step in if nothing happens. Like sometimes they just circle each other and no punches are thrown, at some point refs just break it up. But other times, you get a great fight with punches for like 30+ seconds. But at some point, refs can see players are tired and not throwing anymore so they step in and just break it up. We almost never see players get mad because they know both of them are dead tired.
Okay great I’ll check it out!!
With the championship coming up, I would love to see a reaction to Canadian football!
Pinball Clemons will get 2 touchdowns
I’ll check it out!!
@@USACULTURESHOCK Thanks! The championship just happened yesterday!
@ oh wow I’m sorry, when do the season usually start so I can know for next time?
@@USACULTURESHOCK Season runs from June and the Championship game ( The Grey Cup ) happens in late November. There's plenty of cool stuff you could probably react to from the most recent Championship match the other day.
Fighting in hockey is why Canadians are so nice. We get out all our frustrations watching them or actually doing it. Then we go off and have a beer and we’re all friends again. 😊
I believe it's called game ready. Life is a tough game, be ready.
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I’m 60 from Minnesota, grew up playing all my life, fighting is necessary, and to be honest, it’s good fun.
The game is so fast paced the refs cannot see everything. Fighting keeps the game and the players in check. It makes the sport safer for players.
Fun fact the first official hockey game ended in a brawl😂
You know those stories old people tell you about how much tougher things were back in their day? Walked 15 miles to school in snow. Hockey is the equivalent of that in the sports world.
This is how real men play sports. It ensures no man is above anyone else. Everyone is encouraged to stay within their boundaries or pay the price which in some cases is quite unpredictable. Bin skating since I was 2 years old and my father drove the local Zamboni working for the city where I live in central Ontario Canada. Hockey is big here, there is more rinks than churches. Some of the best hockey to watch is provincial. It’s the stage of hockey before you make money and the games are clutch. Guys fighting to get hired and make a career from hockey.
@@TinyGoHomes you the man
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They had to implement a rule that you can't leave the bench if there's a fight. Before that there were bench clearing brawls. Sometimes the players even go into the crowd after fans chirping.
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The refs stay out of it so they don't get hurt but jump in when the guys are tired...also they move gloves and sticks outta the way some times so the guys don't slip on them and posdibly crack their heads on the ice
the retaliation for bad behavior extends to all future games. once you are down,, the fight should stop. these guys are true athletes. such a great sport, much faster than Amer football
If you want a great example via story of how these rules work, watch a video about the Brawl in Hockeytown (Rivalry between Detroit and Colorado in 1997). The story involves lots of rules and how they ended up enforcing them, with a HUGE brawl between the two in March of 1997.
Great video! Glad you're enjoying hockey - it can be intense, but super fun!
Too funny them showing Brad Marchand when explaining antagonizers. 😂😂😂
He is the king of it. And the best fights were Red Wing , Avalanche brawls of the late 90’s. And it all started when Claude Lemieux of the Avs. Drove Kris Drapers face into the half wall, breaking his Jaw. This fighting went on for a cpl. Of games. Remember this very well as I am a Red Wing fan.
At 4:40 mark is Tod Bertuzzi and this hit to the ice broke that young mans neck and ended his career, Bertuzzi was sanctioned, kicked off his team and floundered in the league for a few seasons then left the game in disgrace.
@@brentdallyn8459 very very sad. What is your point
recommend NHL MIC'D UP FIGHTS, and NHL MIC'D UP REFS
these are some funny and entertaining videos
My friend this hockey code should be the book for every facet of life. Your actions have consequences. It's not violence life is tough. It would be a better world if we would all follow this code. Consequences are a real deterrent
There's no room for cheap shots in a game this dangerous. I "knew" the code as a child in Canada.
you need to watch bloody sunday. also, look up the clip where every player on the ice gets a 10 minute misconduct
Yes sir, you nailed it. They are flying around at 30mph with a stick and blades on their feet.
Yup literally very piece of equipment is more dangerous than just your fist! Even the puck
It's a Canadian thing. We live by this code.
Most of these are rules for life not just hockey.
Fighting has historically been part of the game since the 1800s. Some history books say that the number of players from rural areas or players of a certain class (no shame) frequently settled conflict with boxing or just plain old punching and scuffling. They carried this practice over on the ice if needed. So while fighting is not part of the game, it's normalized in the Canadian part of the game, though still technically outside of it or discouraged. The Canadian game is known for being tough and physical, while still skills-oriented and fast. For a new person watching hockey for the first time, it must seem funny to have a boxing match break out in the middle of a game :) There are some that say allowing fighting prevents cheap shots like cross-checking and high-sticking. As a Canadian that grew up with this, it's quite normal to my eyes.
Shoresy, is a great example of hockey culture.
Appreciate your learning the game. 🇨🇦
They fight for many reasons. The officials can't see everything and calls are missed. There are players who are skilled, but not fighters, that get targeted and they need defending. There are injuries that won't make a player quit, but will get the guy who injured them dealt with. There are things said during the game that will have to be answered for. There are old beefs, and new rivalries. There are times when a player will fight to lift his whole team up, to get their blood stirring But mostly, there has to be a release valve. These players could kill each other. They have knives on their feet, and they carry sticks. Sometimes there just has to be a fight or two as a lightning rod or someone will be very baldly hurt.
Definitely watch biggest hits next
Okay I will thank you for the recommendation!!
Hockey isn't the only sport that allows fighting, Canadian box lacrosse has nearly identical unwritten rules.
@@Sid-gu5qk I didn't know that. That's a very roug sport
A Star player can go at another Star player. That clip shown during that Rule was the Jets' current Captain Adam Lowry #17, he's a Star, the guy he hit was #89 Alex Tuch, he's not a star although he did have one really good season with the really bad Buffalo Sabres in 2022/23. The Golden Knights sent their goon Ryan Reeves #75 after Lowry, Lowry won that fight. That was November 2, 2019.
FF to April 11, 2023 and Reeves is now playing with the Minnesota Wild vs the Winnipeg Jets. Reeves didn't forget his loss 4 seasons earlier and challenged Lowry again. Lowry won that fight too. Adam Lowry can hit whoever the hell Adam Lowry wants to hit.
This guy had a British accent. He is not 100% accurate on this
1: fighting is a 5 minute penalty, starts and stops with game time.
2: the fight is over when one player’s knee drops to the ice
3: half of all fights have nothing to do retribution. If the game is boring two fighters will happily and peacefully challenge each other to a fight to hype up the crowd and their teammates.
4: some fights happen because your team is losing by a lot and you’re either trying to amp your team up or you’re trying to break the momentum of the opposing team.
5: you absolutely are allowed to back down. You are allowed to turtle. If one player doesn’t want to fight, the challenging player will get a 2 minute penalty for instigating. This also happens if one player drops their gloves and the other one doesn’t. Not every player is a fighter.
I could probably go on but this guy is not the source. Ask an actual hockey player. Preferably one without a British accent.
@@jamesskinner4752 you want to knit pick. 5 minute major game misconduct your out of this game.
Thank you so much 😊
To quote former NHLer Chris "Knuckles" Nilan: "... when two guys gets so pissed off at each other, maybe because one guy stuck a stick in his ribs, and then he finally says 'I've had enough' and wants the drop the gloves and break his nose... it makes guys think twice sometimes about taking liberties with other people if there's someone there that can come and settle things down."
It's a misconception that all fights break out over an offense that someone has made. There's the odd time that it makes an advantage on the scoreboard.
Yeah sometimes it's good for a 4th liner to start a fight with a top 6 player to get them off the ice. Sometimes the bait works sometimes it doesnt
@@davidleaman6801 it's about keeping everyone in check not the scoreboard
I was the same way when I was first formerly introducted to hockey; I did not understand why fights were "allowed". There is an old saying "I was watching a fight and a hockey game broke out". That applied much more in the 70's, 80's, and most of the 90's when entire benches would clear for a fight. Check out the Detroit Red Wings vs. Colorado Avelanch rival of the 90's which started when Colorado's Claude Lemieux took a cheap shot against Detroit's Chris Draper.
Ignore what they said about Sidney Crosby - he's the most respected player (by his peers) since probably Gretzky or Mario
Speaking of the most respected player on the ice.... I miss Patrice Bergeron
Sidney is a bit of a cheap shot artist, using his stick. He’s not called Cindy because of his generational skill.
I agreexbutcsid has done all of what was said. So has ovi, but when ovi fight he a beast
@@mikejanssen6344 You're living in 2005 if you believe that. Also he was never a cheap shot artist. He just complained more than the average rookie.
Ovi was the real cheap shot artist.
@@TheSuperRetroBros you have your perception and opinion I have mine.
When I first started playing hockey bro I swear it was hard to watch my teammates get hit hard , cross checked , slashed aggressively, etc . I’m a goalie and I’m from the hood so my mentality was always to fight for and with your friends . I was wylin during the beginning because as a goalie you see so much shit and you not supposed to do anything . I would just attack people but with good reason lmaooo
Hockey is the best sport ever . I’m just sad that a lot of people will never experience it or just to ignorant to give it a shot
It keeps you honest. A pressure valve needs to be released once in awhile or sticks start to get high and guys can get cheap. You see two guys kicking the shit out of each other, you think..... O.K back to hockey. For now.
I love Goethe larack
You got it right. Accountability is what’s going on
Check out the video of when at a hockey game in canada where the mic whent down during the american national anthem, without skipping a beat the entire areana filled with canadians finished singing the american national anthem..
A big reason why fights are still “allowed” in hockey and every other sport they’re broken up immediately is because they are on ice. Despite these guys being basically just as comfortable on skates as in shoes on the regular ground, when fighting it’s different. Throwing punches and throwing your weight around and pushing and pulling your opponent leads to most fights lasting under a minute and only a handful of punches being landed until someone loses their balance and goes down and the fight is over. If this was allowed in basketball for example, fights would be way worse because it’s much easier to throw and land punches with no equipment in the way and having much better balance not on ice. So the severity of the fights would be way worse
3:00, why? Because that’s how Canadians have historically solved their issues amongst themselves. Chuck knuckles, pick up your teeth, and let’s be friends.
The ref picking up equipment is actually more than just helping clean up it's so the guys fighting don't trip on them while doing their business lol
Refs might also stop a fight for a few reasons. It's an obvious mismatch of fighting skills. Sometimes a player is exhausted near the end of his shift and another is fresh. During the fight, one or both fighters may get worn out. Whenever there is a reason to believe that one or the other has an unfair advantage for whatever reason.
Refs can also stop a fight if they feel that fighting or general roughness is taking over the game. If the fights have gotten carried away that could get the game out of the refs control. By stifling the fights early and penalizing one or both teams heavily, it's sends a message to everyone that it is time to get back to clean hockey or penalties will be called that could give a distinct advantage to just one team.
Basically if tempers gets too hot, refs will put the fires out with heavy penalties. Enforcers have a job, but it's also up to the refs to keep everyone in check as well.
Cheers.
Oh okay I understand!! Thank you so much 😊
Hockey is Awesome
How about that planned hit by Jeannot? His target likely has a concussion! 😮
You have it exactly right. Its for the safety of the players. They are moving extremely fast, with sticks in their hands and blades on their feet.
Ironically, it keeps the players safer as a fight wont end a career but a slewfoot at 50k into the boards can end a career.
To be clear, the days of the old school goon are long gone. Nowadays, the enforcer role also requires more skill, than in years past. They’re not just there to fight, and hit, or intimidate… They are expected to produce on the scoring sheet, as well. That was not always the case.
The refs will stop a fight if there's any blood, if the fighters are too tired to keep throwing fists or if it's a lopsided beatdown. If they both fall to the ice they refs will stop it, if one fighter falls the other is expected to skate away. The hardest part about fighting is staying on your feet, that's why they cling to each other's jersey like a Joey to it's mother's teat.
There's a funny story about why jerseys need to be tied down; Enforcers used to try pulling each others' jersey over their heads or remove their own so it couldn't be done to them. On May 17th, 1995 Canucks Enforcer Gino Odjick aka The Algonquin Assassin decided to break every rule in the Invisible Enforcer Handbook by taking on every St. Louis Blue on the ice losing his helmet, jersey, all his shoulder, chest and elbow pads, then after trying to fight everyone on the Blues bench he skated around topless getting the crowd fired up. It's something right out of Slap Shot, there are videos of the incident.
RIP Gino.
The inherent danger in the game is indeed part of it, sometimes it might be better for two dudes to square up and wail on each other than have a guy smashed full speed into the boards causing a career ending injury. But with what we know about CTE and concussions the repeated head shots are still questionable.
Yes you are 100% correct. It’s a dangerous sport with a weapon played on razor blades.
The old adage: i went to a Rangers Devils fight and a hockey game broke out.
Def should check out "the beauty of hockey" 1 and 2 to get a sense of the overall game and skill involved.
the pest rule is just a highlight reel of marchand
Marchand is a saint..
@@johnbrowne2170... of shit
The best is when two goalies fight 😂
way back they used to play cage basketball check it out
Canada was winning they had a branch clearing brawl
Hockey is the greatest sport ever hands down!! You’ll love watching the games best atmosphere out of all the sports and the hardest and best trophy to win it all The Lord Stanley Cup!!!!
Respect
I think Pat Beverly would have been the best pest in the NBA if that was allowed. He would've been NBA's Brad Marchand.
Lol yea definitely 😂😂
I would also like to add I'm originally from a hockey city, in Canada 🇨🇦, which produced many NHL, WHA & other Pro league enforcers.
Thunder Bay, Ontario Canada 🇨🇦 (former cities of Port Arthur and Fort William, also known as The Lakehead) sitting at the western end of Lake Superior. Players like: Connie "Maddog" Madigan; Bill "Goldie" Goldthorpe ( read his book); Bob "Battleship" Kelly; Trevor Johansen; Lee Fogolin Jr; John Schella; Bruce "Rammer" Ramsay; Wally Presenger; etc., etc.
This is the same city that has produced The Staal Brothers (most recent); Alex Delvecchio; Tony Hrkac (the Hrkac Circus); etc., etc.
Just Google Thunder Bay Pro hockey players.
Uou are exactly right when you said it’s because it’s such a dangerous situation that the have to do something about it themselves
Good question at the end there. If the refs sense the players are really tired it have taken a lot of damage, they’ll step in and break them up. Great reaction!
really enjoying your videos
Awesome, thank you!
you put it very well, youre accountable. you can very much see when fights are going to happen..playoffs host some big brawls because tension has built up over the series look up the Ottawa Senators full team brawl video.
Rarely is there someone going over the line in fights. It's actually based on a ton of respect, for the most part. But there are times where men playing a competitive contact sport are going to get angry. Sometimes it's best to let them fight and get it out rather than let them try and take cheap shots throughout the game. I love hockey fights
The real reason fighting is "allowed" in hockey, is because the alternative is much worse. Someone would eventually get killed if they didn't allow them to vent their frustrations. Body checking IS legal. It's better to let 2 guys beat each other up than have someone have their neck broken by a malicious check from behind. As for when the refs break a fight up, it's usually after they can see that the players are getting tired, and they've worn themselves out. A lot of the refs are no slouches either.
I think part of the reason why fighting is big in the nhl is because they naturally have so much protective gear on. if fights like the ones in hockey happened in other sports, like basketball, they would be much more painful/serious due to the lack of equipment
The sign, and colloquial name for go-time is dropping gloves. Helmet too if you're a real gentleman
Nothing to do with it. Hockey players fight on and off the ice. It’s about respect
4:40 - Vancouver's Todd Bertuzzi #44 was trying to get the Avs' Steve Moore #36 to turn around and fight because Steve had taken a cheap shot crosscheck on Canucks Captain Markus Naslund which caused him to be taken out of the game with an injury. Steve was scared shitless of Big Bert who was dogging him all over the ice, slapping him in the head, rubbing his face with an open glove (it's like sandpaper) and getting in his space begging for a fight, that's when Steve tried to stop, turn and turtle rather than face Bert, a big cowardly no-no, which caused them both to fall to the ice where Steve's neck was broken by their weight. Steve should have just dropped the gloves and taken a couple punches to the face.
That Bertuzzi #41 with the Sharks clip at 11:10 is Tyler Bertuzzi, Todd's nephew.
Yeah. That was a freak accident. Everybody attacks Bertuzzi for it without considering he had just seen his teams captain and best player, as well as being his best friend, lying on the ice unconscious and bleeding after Moore cheap shotted him with a dirty elbow to the head.
Moore never should have been in the ice with only a few minutes left in what was a blowout.
Tony Granato was an absolute ass for putting Moore on the ice knowing how volatile the situation was.
@@burkanuck Also it was Steve's own admission that he consciously turned to his left and exposed his back to Todd in order to avoid a fight. If Steve had turned to his right and met Todd head on, as most players would have done, they would have settled it the old fashioned way. Steve admitted that he did not want to fight and his instinct was to duck and cover when Bertuzzi came at him which was the reason Todd wasn't found liable and allowed to continue playing in the NHL.
The same can't be said for Marty McSorley's stick attack on Donald Brashear's head that was 100% intent to injure, Marty never played in the NHL again but Brashear luckily did recover and play again. That was brutal and hard to watch, I saw both those games as they happened.
Yo this is wild. Apologizing for Bertuzzi breaking someone's else's neck who refused to fight in a hockey game.
Sure guys. It was justified. Whatever helps you sleep at night, crazy dumbfucks.
As a life long Boston fan, the hate towards Marchand cracks me up. You know he's good at what he does when everyone hates him, but would love him if he were on their team.
If the Captain of my team licked people and was known for his dirty style I'd be embarrassed
You guys going to choke YET again this year???
Bruins fans keep saying that but it is not true. I would never want Marchand on my team.
Fighting is part of excitement of hockey
When I was a kid, my dad took me to a boxing match and a hockey game broke out.
You take a cheap shot at me there will be hell to pay. I was a goaltender so very few fights. Opponents had to be reminded once in a while that my stick was bigger than theirs. Get too close to my crease and you risk your ankles. Chop, chop.
Best fights, Johnathan vs Bouchard, and that small incident in Madison Square Garden where the Bruins climbed over the boards and fought the fans.
We be Canadians 😊
Great video. Keep up the good work
Thanks, will do!
Yes
I'm hitting 60yrs old & remember the NHL (and hockey in general) from the 1970's, 80's & 90's.
The 1970's had many (maybe too many) fights & bench clearing brawls (not just line brawls). The 1980's were much like this also.
I like a good fight but it seems like the NHL of today, the fights are "staged".
Go back and check out some NHL games from the 70's & 80's. Check out UA-cam videos of one of the biggest rivalry in hockey & maybe even all of NA sport. Montreal Canadians vs the Quebec Nordiques. Fights in the stands, fights on the ice. Fights were mean spirited.
Unfortunately Gary Bettman (NHL President) is afraid to bring the Nordiques back to Quebec City. The NHL is some Sanitized.
As much as people dislike fights in hockey it's actually for player safety.
Some pests are among the toughest and best fighters. Some power forwards are tougher than the goons.
Watch the movie Goon there are 2 movies great movies
2nd not as good as the first but still solid
also you cannot take off your helmet anymore or the refs jump in right away and you get an extra penalty so this is a bit outdated
some players found a workaround search "Brent Gallant vs Krys Barch helmet rule NY Islanders vs NJ Devils 9/19/13 NHL Hockey" but yeah its a gay rule or players should just just agree to each take the penalty and make the game 4 on 4 lol
Exactly one reasons is for stick work as some plauers are vicious with thete sticks but hits from behind and so forth markblack fights is my son in minor pro hockey coming up
This one is quite old one, nowadays fighting is still there, and code still exists, but its not as prolific as it used to be, there are basically no goons anymore except few, but they are also good players and are not there just to fight, most of them are 3-4 liners to prevent opposition of scoring, penalty killing specialists and so on, some are/was even decent scorers. About when refs intervene... either when someone is down, bleeding or it just takes too long them to start, sometimes there is just that so called "dance" but nothing really happen, so refs just separate them, give 5 each and game goes on. Good fights are rarity in modern NHL hockey, coz new rules were implemented to kill fighting as much as possible, tho it is still there, and time to time we get really great ones.
And to bounce off this point, the NHL squashing fighting was to try and lower head injuries that players were receiving, but there's actually a marked increase in those head injuries after the newer rulings and the removal of the "Goons". Oddly enough, it seems that allowing players to throw elbows while going 30mph on ice with no real repercussion outside a 2 min penalty....causes even more concussions then a few good hits to the head.
Fighters no longer remove their own helmets, even with visors. It's been an extra penalty for a few years now. The opponent has to remove it for them.
If you get a chance you have to go watch a game live!
My brother watches hockey, and we plan on going to a game soon!
The part this video skipped over is how it became interwoven into the sport. The NHL is over 100 years old. Originally there was only one ref and the sport is very fast. Hockey back in the day was BRUTAL and the single ref missed almost all of it. *The enforcers existed out of necessity*. Over time another ref was added then 2 additional linesman. The need to self police is much less these days, how ever the refs still miss stuff, players still do scummy stuff. There are very few true enforcers left. Especially now that we understand the impact of bareknuckle boxing on the brain. Sometimes i feel guilty that i love a good fight. but good god when the stars align and a goalie fight breaks out there is nothing better! i love my sport.
Another part of the code is that you don’t instigate a fight with someone below your weight class. You’re not going with a 5’10” guy if you’re 6’4”.
Unless they fucked around, then they HAVE to answer
Not true
Like bro look at wendel clark, Tie domi etc some of the toughest guys are smaller guys.
Unless it's Marchand 😁
You should look for Canada vs Russia
It's a high energy sport. It's a self made mecanism to protect the players.
You do not need to fight on most common receipts. If they cannot replicate the crime, then a fight will be done.
the rule is it's gotta be a one on one, so if anyone else joins in the refs will break it up. They will jump in if a player goes to the ice, a player is deemed to be injured in any way and if they suspect a player has anything on his hands so people can't like tape their knuckles and shit. They also are supposed to control the tempo of the game so the more fights in a game the more likely they are to jump in right away and stop it.
Been watching the past few videos brother and the video your looking for is this one ua-cam.com/video/SwDy0Jzket0/v-deo.html by What The Puck!. It's a 30 min video of all the filthiest goals of all time going back to like the 90s some of them. It's 4 years old now so it's a bit outdated but seriously if that's what you're wanting there is no other video.
Also another unwritten rule of hockey is that if any goal that goes 'bar down' (the puck hits the crossbar and then goes in) that goal is always considered filthier or way more impressive and mad bonus points the louder the ding off the crossbar is so keep that in mind when watching any clips
Loving this so far
Thank you so much and I will definitely check this video out!!
Rules of Hockey are similar to the streets!Not totally but close
On the ice
Yeah it’s technically not allowed, but is allowed lol you will get a penalty in game maybe even thrown out depending on circumstances, but unlike NBA say, you won’t get suspended, fined etc. so yeah it’s a “foul” but essentially like a flagrant foul nothing more lol
Look up Don Cherrys roxkem sockem hockey. It was put out once a years for around 20 years
wendell clark fight compilation