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  • Опубліковано 25 чер 2024
  • John Campea explains why Ki-Adi-Mundi being alive for Star Wars: The Acolyte actually doesn’t matter, and why Star Wars fans are stupid for thinking it does.
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  • @davemustang8173
    @davemustang8173 Місяць тому +351

    "I don't care what George Lucas says, Ki-Adi Mundi is a sith lord" - John Campea

    • @darthbiscuit
      @darthbiscuit Місяць тому +13

      Thats established J-Level cannon.
      Don't let the G-Levelers out there hate on the new truth

    • @ericv00
      @ericv00 Місяць тому +10

      A sith lord?! If what you have told me is true, you will have earned my trust.

    • @2ndlegend125
      @2ndlegend125 Місяць тому +5

      He was trained by Darth Jar Jar the bombad.

    • @aurorauplinks
      @aurorauplinks Місяць тому +2

      Ki-Adi Mundi should have a lightsaber hat, the blade emerges from the tip. would be fantastic.

    • @arcadianlhadattshirotsughW33Z
      @arcadianlhadattshirotsughW33Z Місяць тому +2

      my grandma told me "i dont care what George Lucas taught you, Ki Adi Mundi is black"..

  • @rswallen
    @rswallen Місяць тому +287

    Campea: "They didn't call Smilo Ren a Sith"
    Acolyte Ep5: "hold my beer"

    • @lordofthepizzapie9319
      @lordofthepizzapie9319 Місяць тому +45

      Nice milk you've got there Campea, has it turned into cheese yet?

    • @kaykutcher2103
      @kaykutcher2103 Місяць тому +41

      ​@@lordofthepizzapie9319 When it does it'll go nicely with his whine.

    • @user-pk3zw7mb8w
      @user-pk3zw7mb8w Місяць тому +31

      I never said that - Campea.
      He's famous for lieing about what he said and taking credit for what he didn't

    • @8ligh7
      @8ligh7 Місяць тому

      When the Acolyte fans thought the shitty "can't even obey basic canon" writers of this show agreed with their stupid flimsy head canon defense.
      What a bunch of twits.

    • @jamogable
      @jamogable Місяць тому +4

      when Smilo confirmed what he is i immediately recalled John's fine milk toast take

  • @PanzerblitzRnR
    @PanzerblitzRnR Місяць тому +234

    I love after telling us that we are completely, utterly, factually wrong, Campea's argument boils down to "you are factually correct, but who cares?"

    • @MasterNegaTech
      @MasterNegaTech Місяць тому +36

      Smug and narcissistic indeed.

    • @KneelB4Bacon
      @KneelB4Bacon Місяць тому +14

      Yup. If you split canon into enough "levels" then canon itself becomes meaningless. I think that characters being alive or dead is the most basic level of "canon" you can possibly have. It's like saying that Tattoine never existed because it's "George Lucas canon" or that the Jedi built the Death Star.
      It's funny to see how a single episode of The Acolyte has wrecked all the Ki-Adi Mundi web pages in Star Wars wookie verse. They're like the Ministry of Information in "1984" trying to re-write history to make the Acolyte's story work.

    • @MasterNegaTech
      @MasterNegaTech Місяць тому +4

      @@KneelB4Bacon and it backfired.

    • @TwistedReality13
      @TwistedReality13 Місяць тому +6

      It's Campea.. are you really shocked? He's like the king of bad takes and saying really REALLY dumb ish on camera.

    • @MasterNegaTech
      @MasterNegaTech Місяць тому +3

      @@TwistedReality13 Well, I wasn't shocked that Campea hates taking responsibility for treating genuine Star Wars Fans like a personal dumpyard. No doubt he's a sell-out and boot-kisser to Disney, which I'm not.

  • @AjayRiver
    @AjayRiver Місяць тому +277

    Campea likes the "lying eyes" defence where he acts as if nothings been changed at all. He did it with the live action how to train your dragon

    • @anteante2332
      @anteante2332 Місяць тому +33

      There was a live action How to train your dragon? Was it "Disney live action remake" bad?

    • @AjayRiver
      @AjayRiver Місяць тому +11

      @@anteante2332 there was casting announced

    • @skylergulley3949
      @skylergulley3949 Місяць тому +6

      ​@@anteante2332 it hasn't come out. I think it's filming right now.

    • @fusionfountain
      @fusionfountain Місяць тому +2

      @@AjayRiverso what did he say about it? I haven’t heard anything about it so I have no context

    • @AjayRiver
      @AjayRiver Місяць тому +15

      @fusionfountain they cast a mixed race girl to play Astrid and people who don't like raceswaps for whatever reason complained. So Campea made a video having a go at them and said the character was "changed" in quotation marks. Acting like there wasnt a change
      ua-cam.com/video/VPwiy9UE8Hk/v-deo.htmlsi=FOAzzLThF1QQgqnH

  • @KneelB4Bacon
    @KneelB4Bacon Місяць тому +113

    People being ALIVE or DEAD is the most basic "level of canon" you can possibly have.

    • @TheAwesomeKielbasa
      @TheAwesomeKielbasa Місяць тому +28

      Somehow, Palpatine survived.
      Somehow, Ki-Adi Mundi was there.
      Somehow, Darth Maul survived.

    • @cyborgdragon4119
      @cyborgdragon4119 Місяць тому +5

      Nothing is ever truly gone.

    • @ANTIStraussian
      @ANTIStraussian 24 дні тому

      Depends on Midi-chlorians. Palatine survived a death stat exploding

  • @Seenospidey
    @Seenospidey Місяць тому +120

    John campea is an untapped goldmine for efap. Especially his old TLJ videos. His ego is massive, and will usually correct people even if he agrees with them. He even went as far as to say that TLJ has no plot holes, and is 100% on the “everything is subjective unless I say it’s a fact” train.

    • @Unicornpirate
      @Unicornpirate Місяць тому +6

      So is Star Wars Theory. He took down his videos but he loved Rise of Skywalker and called it a good movie because of its fan service. He also said Last Jedi was great.

    • @8ligh7
      @8ligh7 Місяць тому +6

      I watched quite a few SWtheory videos around the release of the ST films and got the impression that he doesn't like TLJ. He even makes fun of it multiple times. So, its a surprise that you said he thinks its great.
      Him liking RoS is definitely true though. I believe EFAP even covered some of his takes regarding that film.

    • @arcadianlhadattshirotsughW33Z
      @arcadianlhadattshirotsughW33Z Місяць тому

      wait.. so he's a yumyucker?.. no, he's a yumsucker..

    • @YTChannel420
      @YTChannel420 19 днів тому

      They could make an entire channel posting videos everyday about Campea. Did is a massive hypocrite and his brother in law is a complete brain dead moron.

  • @yaboiportch
    @yaboiportch Місяць тому +85

    To me, the importance of adhering to canon boils down to two things:
    1. Respecting the fidelity of a universe you are allowed to create content for is a sign of respect not just for the original creators, but for the audience.
    2. There is absolutely no reason to get invested in a universe whose stewards actively frustrate/punish the audience for remembering the state of it.

    • @RipOffProductionsLLC
      @RipOffProductionsLLC Місяць тому +5

      Indeed, why should I care to bother watching/reading/playing the newest Star Wars movie/show/book/comic/game (asssuming it even happened to be good) if anything that happens in it is just as likely to get thrown out the window in the next?

    • @TaoScribble
      @TaoScribble Місяць тому +5

      Heck, as a hobbyist writer, I see it like this: If I'm not going to pay attention to my own details, why even bother writing a story? What's the point of building a world/universe if none of it matters?
      I guess these writers don't care because it isn't their's? I dunno, man. Even with fanfiction, going outside the rules of the universe irritated me and made it feel pointless.

    • @hope-cat4894
      @hope-cat4894 Місяць тому +2

      It also shows serious laziness because the writers could easily check a Wiki to see the continuity of their own shows. Fans devote so much time keeping track of lore and post it online for free, so there's no excuse as to why the writers don't just use those resources. I felt this way when the Supernatural writers kept changing the way the monsters worked on the show like the Reapers suddenly being angels when that was never established.

    • @BasementPepperoni
      @BasementPepperoni 21 день тому

      You wanna see these woketard cultists flip out more than anything?
      Make up a rumor about how there's a new Buffy the Vampire Slayer being made, and Buffy is going to be race/gender swapped, lol.

  • @genogamma13
    @genogamma13 Місяць тому +112

    Remember when Red Letter Media joked that this exact guy keeps calling other people nerds in a derogatory fashion while calling himself basically a Disney corporate approved nerd and how every year is it less and less of a joke as every access media shill does it?

  • @trygveplaustrum4634
    @trygveplaustrum4634 Місяць тому +125

    *He only mentions G-Canon and T-canon, but not the four other tiers of canon.* They were all legitimate until Disney wiped them out.

    • @afelias
      @afelias Місяць тому +25

      The other tiers literally have canon in their name. John Cuntea said "canon isn't canon" so many times as he was making shit up.

    • @ericchung3177
      @ericchung3177 Місяць тому +40

      Is John seriously going to pretend that the Timothy Zahn books and the Family Guy Star Wars specials are on the same level even remotely.

    • @ThatJunkman
      @ThatJunkman Місяць тому +6

      Lucas killed the best EU

    • @Unicornpirate
      @Unicornpirate Місяць тому +2

      What are the tiers of canon? Who made this thing a thing?

    • @CastFromHitPoints
      @CastFromHitPoints Місяць тому +18

      @@Unicornpirate LucasArts while it was still under George made it a thing. The old EU was just a bunch of authors doing paid fanfiction in Lucas's sandbox in the early years; only in the 90s did they start trying to make it a cohesive universe. Thus the tiers were created:
      G-Canon are the OT and the prequels.
      T-Canon, or TV canon, just consists of the animated Clone Wars show.
      C-Canon is Continuity canon and consists of everything LucasArts worked into a cohesive universe.
      S-Canon is Secondary canon and is everything they couldn't work into the above - usually just the older works.
      N-Canon is all the non-canon works: "what if?" kinda stories and works that are contradicted by any work of a higher canon tier.
      So basically, the canon tiers are the result of taking what had become akin to modern mythology storytelling, trying to compress it into a singular MCU style timeline, getting various authors to make a cohesive universe while also accommodating George's desire to maintain creative control.

  • @BigBroTejano
    @BigBroTejano Місяць тому +138

    Star Wars writers: *puts in recognizable character for the sole purpose of jingling keys*
    Star Wars viewers: *take notice of said jingling keys and quickly point out they don’t make any sense*
    Disney Shills: “HOW DARE YOU Take notice of this thing that the creators of this show WANTED you to expressly take notice of!”

    • @mercaius
      @mercaius Місяць тому +11

      It's not the first time I've seen something like this, though at least the devs in my other example cleaned up their goof. It's very wild that you can take the time to pick an obscure character to bring to the audience's attention for style points, but then fail to notice first-page, stat-blurb level information about the character.

    • @aldunlop4622
      @aldunlop4622 Місяць тому +7

      Just the usual gaslighting.

    • @kyodarkness9243
      @kyodarkness9243 Місяць тому +2

      It's either that or the appeal to trivialities A.K.A. *"WhY dO you CaRe So MuCh???"*

    • @aurorauplinks
      @aurorauplinks Місяць тому +1

      Huh... i wonder if I made a star wars film about Trump the star wars "mega fans"
      would have to support it still.
      Oh right. first i have to have control of the license. then i can.
      and money.

    • @szeltovivarsydroxan9944
      @szeltovivarsydroxan9944 Місяць тому

      Jingling keys 😂 so Christmasy

  • @eddobh
    @eddobh Місяць тому +40

    So, Campea's argument was: "I'll bombard you with some powerpoint slides full of definitions that should give you the impression I know what I'm talking about, until you get bored, exhausted, throw the towel and accept my position."
    That doesn't work on EFAP, dude.

  • @trygveplaustrum4634
    @trygveplaustrum4634 Місяць тому +130

    *Let’s be frank. The more garbage you pile into the canon, the less legitimate the canon is.*
    Have you ever been immersed in Moonfall lore? Jupiter Ascending lore? Even Mortal Engines lore?
    Right now, it’s more prestigious to be Legends than Disney canon.

    • @jonathandear4914
      @jonathandear4914 Місяць тому +10

      i feel with Mortal Engines you can at least think about the insanity that would be a mobile New York, like a battle fortress or something

    • @trygveplaustrum4634
      @trygveplaustrum4634 Місяць тому +3

      @@jonathandear4914 Yeah, I threw that out there haphazardly. I quite like Mortal Engines myself!

    • @endlessstrata6988
      @endlessstrata6988 Місяць тому +2

      @@trygveplaustrum4634 Ye I kinda enjoyed that movie. I'm a simple man.

    • @sir_aizen
      @sir_aizen Місяць тому +1

      Jesus Christ, Moonfall
      What a
      Trip, so to speak

    • @ArchangelExile
      @ArchangelExile Місяць тому

      Mortal Engines was ass starting halfway through but it's still better than anything Disney is dishing out Star Wars-wise.

  • @Sousabird
    @Sousabird Місяць тому +131

    The only thing I know about John Campea is when he was talking about pictures of Spiderman's junk.

    • @blairpearson9791
      @blairpearson9791 Місяць тому +8

      And then watermarked the photos lmao

    • @TwistedReality13
      @TwistedReality13 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@blairpearson9791then tried to say the leaked photos had nothing to do with his surge in channel growth.. before intentionally sabotaging his own show 😂😂..

    • @blairpearson9791
      @blairpearson9791 Місяць тому +1

      @@TwistedReality13 yes. Im not tech savy but as soon as i saw those photos i was like wtf why post that ? He claimed they were fake and then said “Well we know they were going to be in it anyway” When there was still a tiny bit of doubt that they would.

  • @woodwyrm
    @woodwyrm Місяць тому +60

    Ah Campea, the physical embodiment of that ancient proverb that tells us it's better to keep your mouth shut and let the world think you a fool, rather than open it and dispel all evidence to the contrary.

    • @righteousrawb7225
      @righteousrawb7225 Місяць тому

      And you guys are the physical embodiment of "if you have nothing nice to say then say nothing at all" but you all do it anyway. Seriously if you don't like or agree with the guy then you don't have to watch him.
      Just binge watch critical drinker all day

    • @aldunlop4622
      @aldunlop4622 Місяць тому +8

      Mark Twain: "Better to Remain Silent and Be Thought a Fool than to Speak and Remove All Doubt"

    • @YBOT-BITTERs
      @YBOT-BITTERs Місяць тому

      ​@@righteousrawb7225Campea doesn't even follow that rule you midwit. I've seen way too many clips of campea having a meltdown towards fans

    • @isaiahsmith7123
      @isaiahsmith7123 Місяць тому +7

      ​@@righteousrawb7225 Have you met the kettle?

    • @grey195
      @grey195 Місяць тому +5

      @@righteousrawb7225take your own advice

  • @davemustang8173
    @davemustang8173 Місяць тому +25

    So his argument is "Why are you complaining? Just invent a new canon and it's fine"

  • @arubial1229
    @arubial1229 Місяць тому +26

    I love how Campea says it's "nebulous" but then shows us the clearly-defined rules...

  • @trygveplaustrum4634
    @trygveplaustrum4634 Місяць тому +90

    Canon is so incomplete. Disney’s done nothing to enhance it.
    I wanted to roleplay an asteroid miner in the Star Wars universe. There’s *nothing.* I looked everywhere. It’s all in Legends. How shallow Disney Star Wars feels! Where’s their stewardship?

    • @ValyrianPrince
      @ValyrianPrince Місяць тому +4

      You are so right and Disney instead of editing legends made a big show of throwing it out like they had better ideas only to do the most slimy corporate thing and start selecting and reusing ideas established in legends. SMH

  • @Rolf97
    @Rolf97 Місяць тому +43

    Rags is right. People who claim to like trash like this, TROS, and TLJ, either have something wrong with them or are just pretending to like it because it panders to their particular ideology.

    • @BirdsElopeWithTheSun09
      @BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 Місяць тому +3

      Or maybe they just like it.

    • @szeltovivarsydroxan9944
      @szeltovivarsydroxan9944 Місяць тому +1

      One doesn't exclude the other

    • @johnnyskinwalker4095
      @johnnyskinwalker4095 21 день тому

      I liked TLJ but bear in mind, I'm not a big Star Wars fan. Maybe if it had happened to something I really loved(like GoT) I would have been pissed. Who knows.

  • @AscendantStoic
    @AscendantStoic Місяць тому +13

    They didn't have to use Ki-Adi Mundi at all, there are other members of the jedi council (in the prequels) who are long lived which they could have used instead, but it seems they used him SPECIFICALLY to spite the fans knowing exactly that it's going to piss people who still give a fuck about SW, knowing it breaks canon because he wasn't even born and because he is the one who says the sith haven't been seen for a 1000 years in the prequels, it's so profoundly pathetic and stupid to even defend his presence there, of ALL the jedi that could have been used instead his usage is the most damaging to the continuity and to the character of Ki-Adi Mundi himself.
    It was 100% done out of spite.

  • @chrisandrew7577
    @chrisandrew7577 Місяць тому +22

    the lengths this guy went into making this video is wild compared to the 3 seconds it took me to remember Ki Adi Mundi shouldn't be alive.
    Its not a question of whether or not they CAN put him in the show, its WHY they chose to do so when its seemingly inconsequential

  • @ArchangelExile
    @ArchangelExile Місяць тому +12

    The way he says, Ki Adi Mundi....
    F*** you John Campea.

  • @jonmetcalf6565
    @jonmetcalf6565 Місяць тому +11

    Let's be real, anything that's happened since George sold the franchise to the "white slavers" isn't canon because it's been that unrecognizable.

  • @hariman7727
    @hariman7727 Місяць тому +5

    "There is no Canon. There is only Disney. OBEY."

  • @arklaw8306
    @arklaw8306 Місяць тому +26

    Aged like milk with episode 5.

    • @kaykutcher2103
      @kaykutcher2103 Місяць тому +10

      Not really because that milk can be turned into cheese and cheese is good. This aged more like Disney.

    • @arklaw8306
      @arklaw8306 Місяць тому +7

      Aged like pizza left to rot in the sun and the flies for 20 years.

    • @ValyrianPrince
      @ValyrianPrince Місяць тому +1

      @@arklaw8306that’ll do it 😂

    • @RyanGoosing
      @RyanGoosing 27 днів тому +1

      ​@@kaykutcher2103 So... Age like nuclear infuse swamp water?

  • @f145hr3831jr
    @f145hr3831jr Місяць тому +17

    Canon is not just a matter of trust, it's a matter of consistency. Pattern recognition is the most basic way of learning things for animals and humans alike, and it relies on various phenomena around us being consistent. A world where nothing is consistent and everything can be changed on a whim is not a world any normal human being wants to be invested in. The complaint is not "Waaaah you broke our thing!", it's "Make the universe and the story make sense if you want to see me invested in them!"

    • @aldunlop4622
      @aldunlop4622 Місяць тому +6

      It's a fundamental concept of science fiction and fantasy - you can do whatever you want in your story as long as it follows the rules established for that universe. Canon is the rules. So if you can't trust the canon, you can't trust anything in the story.

  • @Nepafarius
    @Nepafarius Місяць тому +34

    Literally who?

  • @scipioninja
    @scipioninja Місяць тому +27

    Shout out to Campea's Transformers 2 review. Certified hood classic 👌🏾

  • @leosorghum6867
    @leosorghum6867 Місяць тому +14

    The way this guy talks is so irritating. The monty python "GET ON WITH IT!" kept coming to mind.

  • @LoveThisRealWoman
    @LoveThisRealWoman Місяць тому +36

    Jokes on John he may think I'm an idiot but he unlike me is an idiot.

  • @dusky5535
    @dusky5535 Місяць тому +21

    My volume was too high, rags scares the shit outta me lmao

  • @DaMaster012
    @DaMaster012 Місяць тому +20

    According to John Campia's arbitrary appeal to authority tiering system of what is elite, member of The Party canon and what is filthy peasant canon not worthy even of a dignified burial, The Acoshyte deserves to be called Star Wars more than Knights of The Old Republic does.
    *John Campia's opinion is invalid for that reason alone.*

  • @cookiecreep9204
    @cookiecreep9204 Місяць тому +5

    So many writers hired in Hollywood have never learned that it's limitations that breed creativity. Complete freedom and getting to do whatever you want tends to not result in anything interesting.

  • @OlioH_
    @OlioH_ Місяць тому +76

    On liking shitty media: Chad Ragss'ss "If you like it, fuck you!"; Virgin Moople "It's fine to like it, just make an argument"; Eternal Fringaling "thats just a boring opinion".

    • @a_rat_named_mouse
      @a_rat_named_mouse Місяць тому +30

      I am sorta like MauLer if you like it, but I switch to Rags' when people won't just shut the fuck up about it- especially after they know I don't like it.
      Like it if you want, but fuck off.

    • @dusky5535
      @dusky5535 Місяць тому +28

      I agree with rags when I'm angry, and I agree with Mauler when I'm calm 🗿

    • @OlioH_
      @OlioH_ Місяць тому +2

      @@dusky5535 But do you agree with Fringy when you're feeling froggy?

    • @Unicornpirate
      @Unicornpirate Місяць тому

      We need Star Wars Theory here. I want Rags to call him out on his shilling for Filoni. He used to shill for the ST but changed his mind when Pablo Hidalgo made fun of him for crying. Mauler and Ryan Kinel went on Star Grift but really didn't debate him in anything. He is now only showing up on Drinker's Open Bar and only Angry Badger debated him on the whole Force vs magic thing but that was it. I want Rags to call him out specifically.

  • @andrewwall4155
    @andrewwall4155 Місяць тому +32

    Who cares about what Jon Campea thinks! Jared Genesis is the only one who ever had any relevant opinions on Star Wars.

    • @davidpa9266
      @davidpa9266 Місяць тому +9

      Did you see The Last Jedi? Chewbacca and R2D2 were in it!

    • @sliceofgabaghoul
      @sliceofgabaghoul Місяць тому +6

      George Lucas was somewhat of a tryhard

    • @andrewwall4155
      @andrewwall4155 Місяць тому +3

      @@davidpa9266 😂

    • @andrewwall4155
      @andrewwall4155 Місяць тому +2

      @@sliceofgabaghoul definitely

    • @woodwyrm
      @woodwyrm Місяць тому +2

      A blast from the past! lmao

  • @shinigamiauthor
    @shinigamiauthor Місяць тому +5

    Saying "I don't want to yuck on your yum" should be considered a hate crime

    • @KingKayro87
      @KingKayro87 26 днів тому

      "Yuck on your yum" sounds like a euphemism for giving head.

  • @yaboiportch
    @yaboiportch Місяць тому +64

    Ki Adi kinda forgot about the Sith

  • @silverscorpio24
    @silverscorpio24 Місяць тому +20

    "I hunted, Rob. I _hunted_ for Ki-Adi Mundi's lightsaber."

  • @greatestscott6599
    @greatestscott6599 Місяць тому +7

    He's not a Sith, he's a _Harfoot_ .
    ... _Darthfoot_ ?

  • @JasonX909
    @JasonX909 Місяць тому +10

    Someone in chat pointed out how John was sniffing throughout this, so cocaine might explain his fervor here lol.

    • @ProjectRedfoot
      @ProjectRedfoot Місяць тому +2

      Lots of youtubers do poppers or smelling salts to be HIGH ENERGY

    • @hope-cat4894
      @hope-cat4894 Місяць тому +2

      ​@@ProjectRedfootIf they keep doing that, they're going to end up like Nick Reikiata.

  • @EndThusIAm
    @EndThusIAm Місяць тому +59

    I'm right there with Rags, enough of this "Oh it's okay you like it." No, if it's complete trash, I will judge you greatly if you say you like it.
    I was never given that when it was the thing to hate Prequels and I loved them.

    • @dusky5535
      @dusky5535 Місяць тому +3

      I mean
      I like Batman and Robin but it's awful lol

    • @dusky5535
      @dusky5535 Місяць тому +3

      Also I found Madame Web particularly funny to watch

    • @EndThusIAm
      @EndThusIAm Місяць тому +5

      @@dusky5535 So does my wife haha, and she knows I judge her because she likes it for Mr Freeze, who only had a handful of good scenes for the character, the rest made him loud and corny.

    • @emptyblank099a
      @emptyblank099a Місяць тому +1

      What a sane and normal thing to say...

    • @EndThusIAm
      @EndThusIAm Місяць тому

      @@emptyblank099a Glad you agree 8D

  • @Marinealver
    @Marinealver Місяць тому +8

    RLM released a total FENCE SITTING video the other day.
    Disney is going to nail them to the wall.

  • @spacedoyster7686
    @spacedoyster7686 Місяць тому +10

    The depressing thing about being so dismissive of supplementary material is that for quite a few Jedi from the prequels, that's all they have.

  • @frostfang7670
    @frostfang7670 Місяць тому +20

    For someone like John saying we are the ones that get extremely angry, he seems pretty heated trying lecture everyone.

    • @MasterNegaTech
      @MasterNegaTech Місяць тому +1

      Coompea’s lectures are boringer than math lectures.

  • @TheAutistWhisperer
    @TheAutistWhisperer Місяць тому +11

    John Campea is a consoomer.

  • @KosmicVader
    @KosmicVader Місяць тому +2

    _“What you’ve been told at the Jedi Academy, I care not. Black, Ki-Adi Mundi always was…”_
    -*Bampea Faggins* Grand Master of The Shill Order

  • @Zephyr503
    @Zephyr503 Місяць тому +12

    Why stop at Ki-adi Mundi? We never saw when Qui-gon was born. Let's get a Liam Neeson cameo for Episode 5. Harrison Ford probably doesn't want to do it, so Han Solo is out. Who cares if Acolyte is 100 years before Phantom Menace.
    Y-Wings are never named onscreen in the OT. I suppose they don't exist.

    • @pastychong
      @pastychong Місяць тому

      Qui Gon does have a canon birth year though

    • @darthdragonborn1552
      @darthdragonborn1552 Місяць тому

      @@pastychongAnd A New Hope is canon, yet they completely and blatantly contradicted it with Kenobi.

  • @franklythewurst
    @franklythewurst Місяць тому +6

    13:59 I completely missed that joke from Rags when I watched this live, and clearly so did the rest of the panel. I am wheezing right now.

  • @WarsmithThanatos
    @WarsmithThanatos Місяць тому +4

    The most important question is why break canon.
    No one will be mad if you change things because you love the property and change it for the better.
    But those Disney writers tell you they don't care and change things because "Why not, it's mine now." and because it's easier then to double check, what shouldn't be a big issue with the Internet at your fingertips.

    • @JohnW-sy1eo
      @JohnW-sy1eo Місяць тому +1

      This.

    • @Slender_Man_186
      @Slender_Man_186 Місяць тому +1

      Exactly, they don’t even need to hire a dedicated lore master, the fans are so dedicated that they’ve already compiled just about everything for free. This is the best case scenario when buying an IP and Disney still managed to f$&k it up.

  • @crimsonking440
    @crimsonking440 Місяць тому +2

    The problem with saying it doesnt matter is that objectively that leads to NOTHING mattering. Why should i care about ANY story being told when the writers explicitly tell me that the events within can be erased or changed on a whim at any future point?

    • @Mahhhdeee
      @Mahhhdeee 21 день тому

      They say they’re sw fans but then hypocritically tell us “it doesn’t even matter” what?!?!

  • @MaesterMike
    @MaesterMike Місяць тому +7

    Once a shill, always a shill. John can't help himself but defend Disney, even he claims to hate the Acolyte. Seriously, there is no defending Ki-Adi-Mundi in this show, no matter what claims of canon you make.

    • @YTChannel420
      @YTChannel420 19 днів тому +1

      He constantly says he hates the show yet he always feels the need to defend it

  • @DaMaster012
    @DaMaster012 Місяць тому +8

    I can't figure out what this guy's angle is, or why he would go this far out of his way with this many fallacious "arguments" to die on a hill made of quicksand that wouldn't even hold up past the next episode for a series he openly admitted to detesting... but I know he has an angle, because he's so untrustworthy that his screen looks incomplete without a CNN logo. His "arguments" were so crooked that it makes me want to look of that video of every single type of logical fallacy just to see how many apply to what he's blathering on about.

    • @BigBroTejano
      @BigBroTejano Місяць тому +6

      Simple, the people with the “wrong opinions” are the ones he has to agree with this time about a show… so he has to try extra hard to remind his audience that those same people are actually still wrong about this show even when he’s agreeing with them about it.

  • @linuxwizzerd5908
    @linuxwizzerd5908 Місяць тому +4

    it makes me happy that there are other people out there who don't consider the Disney products canon

  • @iemzaf
    @iemzaf Місяць тому +4

    Fans need to understand, the people in charge of all of these scifi series think that scifi are "silly". Not "stupid" or something malicious, they think it's childish, that's why they get angry when people rightfully mock them for fuking up continuities or even basic scientific logic like a campfire in space. Their mindset is "this is all silly billy, why are you all GETTING ANGRY??".

  • @Blizz3112
    @Blizz3112 Місяць тому +5

    I support Rags in hating people loving episode 4...

  • @DeetotheDubs
    @DeetotheDubs Місяць тому +5

    40 minutes and I feel confident summing up his video as trying to convey two things; 1. Canon is broken at other times so it doesn't matter. 2. Look at all this stuff and believe I knew it already, and am an authority on the issue.

  • @tjjordan4207
    @tjjordan4207 Місяць тому +5

    Campea was fun to watch back during his time with AMC & Collider Movie Talk. After he started doing his own thing and 2017 arrived, he just changed for the worst and became a shill for Bob Iger.

    • @YTChannel420
      @YTChannel420 19 днів тому +1

      Dude repeats himself all the time, he shadow bans people who disagree with him no matter how respectful you are and constantly believes he's right about everything

  • @aegorrivers6700
    @aegorrivers6700 Місяць тому +4

    This thing I hate the most about him is he takes centuries to get to the point. He'll make 100 disclaimers before saying his opinion

    • @YTChannel420
      @YTChannel420 19 днів тому

      As someone who listens to the show everyday, you are 100 percent correct. (Hey I gotta have something to listen to at work)

  • @Keijoz
    @Keijoz 28 днів тому +3

    100% on team Rags on the first point. People should be called out for liking garbage cause theyre the reason more garbage gets made. If anything i would even go as far as saying people who just like it and maybe stay quiet about it are THE BIGGER problem than the people who celebrate it as theyre a full demograpic that flies under the radar while proving viewer interest for companies.

  • @Denien82
    @Denien82 Місяць тому +2

    His voice cracking almost on the verge of tears while is saying something on the line of "You're dumb! This is bad, but for the reasons I say!" made me realize he is sad crying meme man. Btw, how did Rags "I did not have sex with that fhurer" joke go unnoticed?!? 😂

  • @ramtac33033
    @ramtac33033 23 дні тому +2

    6 mins in and Campea has only talked for 23 seconds

    • @YTChannel420
      @YTChannel420 19 днів тому

      Yeah these guys talk for a long time about nothing
      Campea: *breathes*
      "Hmmmm why did he breath like that?" "Notice the background when he just took a breath"?
      *5 minutes later*

  • @iambob6590
    @iambob6590 Місяць тому +3

    Have to do it.
    The first thing you associate as an infant through sight, is shapes and faces.

  • @curtisshaw1370
    @curtisshaw1370 Місяць тому +3

    I remember Campea's Collider panel review of The Force Awakens. The first quarter or third of it was him gushing about how fun it was to go to the red-carpet premiere and drink champagne. That is when I realized that he was nothing more than a shill.

  • @NotOrdinaryInGames
    @NotOrdinaryInGames Місяць тому +3

    I wonder if you knew that Greedo's dialogue was originally given by Jabba, and the Greedo scene was given subtitles after Jabba could not have his early design costume finished in time. And the SHOT LAST FIRST portion was shot several times, from different angles. And George could not decide which shot to use. So the "Special Edition" of Ep 4 used an alternate shot that was filmed all the way back in 1976.

  • @SpFlash1523
    @SpFlash1523 Місяць тому +3

    Campea thinks he's so self-righteous lol.

  • @ProjectRedfoot
    @ProjectRedfoot Місяць тому +3

    He reminds me of the guy from Bruce Almighty who brings the boss his sandwich.
    "This is The Cadillac of Bolognas!"

  • @InitiallyJayKay
    @InitiallyJayKay Місяць тому +13

    55 minute highlight? The guys have really fallen off lately

  • @Lobsterwithinternet
    @Lobsterwithinternet Місяць тому +1

    44:00 The idea of T-Canon was created specifically for Dave Filoni and The Clone Wars as George had a hand in creating it.
    The issue with the CD part was it was created as promotional material for TPM, making it G-Canon as George had a hand in determining it. Meaning it still would outrank The Acolyte in terms of canonicity.

  • @xel1673
    @xel1673 Місяць тому +40

    Isn't Campea the same guy who whined several years ago when Disney didn't give him advance, exclusive press access to something (can't remember if it was a movie, Galaxy's Edge, or what) and he vented his bitterness during a podcast? The whole time claiming he "works soooo hard to be a SW fan/how exhausting it is" and felt Disney owed him. Practically saying without actually outright saying he was working FOR Disney's interest and deserved recognition (ie. Where are my perks and goodie bags, Disney?!).

    • @Avarn388
      @Avarn388 Місяць тому +26

      @xel1673 That’s Kristian Harloff. They were apart of Collider years ago. Still embarrassing of Harloff; though he did apologize from what I heard.

    • @xel1673
      @xel1673 Місяць тому +14

      @@Avarn388 Gotcha. The people on Collider just sort blend together to me.

    • @exhaustpipes
      @exhaustpipes Місяць тому +2

      Think that was Kristian Harloff

    • @kaykutcher2103
      @kaykutcher2103 Місяць тому +4

      ​@@xel1673 The power of maaany. They were ahead of their time.

    • @blairpearson9791
      @blairpearson9791 Місяць тому +4

      @@Avarn388hey he’s been busting his ass being a star wars fan for years now

  • @84C4
    @84C4 Місяць тому +6

    You guys missed something very important: "that always drove me crazy". He admits to being one of these "idiots" who dislike the contradicting canon levels, he just somehow doesn't realize that the incompetence behind creating them is also bad.

  • @davemustang8173
    @davemustang8173 Місяць тому +2

    It's amazing how 1 thing (Adding Ki-Adi) can cause an avalanche of damage control to try and make it work

  • @wrayday7149
    @wrayday7149 22 дні тому +2

    Was it the first drop or the last drop of water that did more to contribute to the dam bursting?

  • @darthdragonborn1552
    @darthdragonborn1552 Місяць тому +1

    God it hurt not having Ryan here for this

  • @iHamsterGears
    @iHamsterGears Місяць тому +2

    I feel like John was purposefully muddying the situation with multiple versions of "canon" to seem more intellectual to his audience. But what he's done is just like the guys say, further poison this whole situation to something more complicated that it otherwise is.

  • @Loboozer
    @Loboozer Місяць тому +3

    That's because John Campea IS a plothole... so, in that regard, he doesn't matter

  • @bloodrunsclear
    @bloodrunsclear 7 днів тому

    My favorite part of The Hobbit is when Gilgalad showed up and was in league with Sauron the whole time

  • @ineptgamer3814
    @ineptgamer3814 23 дні тому +1

    His podcast is a great cure for insomnia. I'm usually out like a light in less than 10 minutes...!

  • @nicholascowling7052
    @nicholascowling7052 Місяць тому +1

    Another theory about including Ki-Adi Mundi is to consider how much Disney Star Wars seems to hate/resent the Jedi, and are going out of their way to make them look bad or not the noble heroes that they are. They might just play everything out the way it is and have Ki-Adi Mundi end up being a liar is the prequels. It doesn't break cannon this way, and makes him and the Jedi by extension, look horrible in the process.

  • @VinylMorpheus
    @VinylMorpheus Місяць тому +4

    Ugh. I fuckin hate Star Wars. I just hate it. Something I never thought I’d say.

    • @camrunner6633
      @camrunner6633 25 днів тому

      That was always the goal, you gotta stick it out regardless. That's what they hate

  • @siko-society5635
    @siko-society5635 Місяць тому +1

    Red it was a red light saber. Holy shit guys that's quality right there.

    • @KingKayro87
      @KingKayro87 26 днів тому

      I'm shitting and cumming Smilo redded all over the Jedi.

  • @WelcometoEarth-ss3qw
    @WelcometoEarth-ss3qw Місяць тому +2

    This Campea and his show seems to be the Nerd Crew, but if it was real and wasn’t a parody

    • @BirdsElopeWithTheSun09
      @BirdsElopeWithTheSun09 Місяць тому +3

      That's because The Nerd Crew is direct parody of this and Collider Movie Talk

  • @DSPHistoricalSociety
    @DSPHistoricalSociety Місяць тому +1

    John Campea is getting CAMPAID BY DIZNEE

  • @ratskigoblinski4963
    @ratskigoblinski4963 Місяць тому +1

    OMG the D Cannon

  • @MarcTheCyborg
    @MarcTheCyborg Місяць тому

    17:50 - my brain malfunctioned and I forgot the “smoking gun” idiom

  • @HermitBlake
    @HermitBlake Місяць тому +1

    Man, at first I coulda swore the title was 'John Cena Thinks You're an Idiot'

    • @JohnW-sy1eo
      @JohnW-sy1eo Місяць тому

      Lol
      Tbf, he probably does

  • @galetempus1979
    @galetempus1979 Місяць тому +2

    So the Darth JarrJarr movie is still in the cards?

  • @gamingguru2k6
    @gamingguru2k6 Місяць тому +2

    The more you retcon, the less past events matter. Continuity doesn't matter at all after a certain point. Why watch at all then, at that point?

  • @joelewis4711
    @joelewis4711 23 дні тому +2

    Campea and Grace Are Lovers

  • @2ndlegend125
    @2ndlegend125 Місяць тому +1

    In an interview with John Stewart, George Lucas was asked what planet Obi Wan was originally from. George literally just pulled Stewjon out of his ass. It's dumb but to me, that's canon now, and I'd be upset if season 2 of Kenobi makes his home planet Glorbo.

  • @1000000man1
    @1000000man1 Місяць тому +1

    So if the "head of cannon" of a series does a terrible Job and contradicts several things and makes excuses when people point it out, we're "fundamentally wrong" for pointing it out and saying it breaks canon, according to whoever this guy is?

  • @LordGhentsis
    @LordGhentsis Місяць тому +2

    Question: In Attack of the Clones, it shows that Poggle the Lesser giving the blueprints of the Death Star to Count Dooku, who later gives it to Sidious and in Revenge of the Sith, it shows the construction of the Death Star based on the blueprints. However, in Rogue One, it shows that Director Krennic and Galen Erso were the ones who created that Death Star.
    So, is this a retcon or an addition to the canon to the Death Star?

    • @sirpepeofhousekek6741
      @sirpepeofhousekek6741 Місяць тому +1

      Retcon

    • @jamiekelly6851
      @jamiekelly6851 Місяць тому +1

      I thought they made the weapon part of it

    • @samwellard7
      @samwellard7 Місяць тому

      My interpretation of that was that once Sidious takes over is that he hands over the project to Krennic and co

  • @mac1991seth
    @mac1991seth 28 днів тому

    The thing about the rule of 2 is interesting, because the GL canon doesn't say much about it, at least in the movies. Yoda said there's always 2 of them: master and the student. That doesn't mean that there can't be 1 master+student in the Outer Rim and 1 master+student in the Mid Rim as long as they don't even know the other 2 exist. Under right circumstances there could be a 100 Sith comprising of 50 masters and 50 students but they never run into one another, but I imagine they would be at each other's throats if they did. Palpatine wanted Maul and Ventress dead, considering Maul to now be his rival and Ventress to be Dooku's illegal apprentice.

  • @torikazuki8701
    @torikazuki8701 20 днів тому +1

    Our Cultural requirement to preface and qualify everything- 'I didn't like it, but it's fine if you did!' While being monumentally frusrating, is actually one more indicator of how much Cultural Marxism and Postmodernism have infected ALL of us.
    Our Culture has denied Objective Truth and Reality for so long, the belief that everything IS a 'Social Construct' is so deeply ingrained, that even people who consider themselves Hard Right, often only complain about 'The Left' as a matter of TASTE not PRINCIPLE.
    Barna did a study a few years back and found that nearly 90% of Americans, regardless of political affiliation, have a Postmodern Worldview.
    Decades ago, I found out that up until the 1900's, the word 'Opinion' used to mean- Your best attempt to get at the truth of a matter, based on the evidence currently available to you. Now of course, it just means- Whatever happens to fly out of your posterior.

  • @jervonte112
    @jervonte112 23 дні тому +2

    Curious if they do this with SW EXPLAINED

  • @JJNubbins
    @JJNubbins Місяць тому +1

    we need Acolyte ep 5

  • @trevorthornley8835
    @trevorthornley8835 Місяць тому

    I'm gonna get some popcorn.

  • @Chi11monger
    @Chi11monger 23 дні тому

    This video finished before Campea’s video even got to the point of his argument:
    Ki Adi Mundi’s birthday is never established in any primary canon. His species’ (Cerean) lifespan isn’t even established in any primary canon.
    Therefore, the creators of The Acolyte took the opportunity to say that “This guy is still alive during this time,” which has now established in canon that his species can also live at least that long.

  • @slideways_sideways1803
    @slideways_sideways1803 Місяць тому

    Rule of two means there can only be a master and an apprentice and was started by Darth Bane.

  • @Russhopson
    @Russhopson 8 днів тому

    Yoda said, only two there are. No more no less

  • @Shin_Mothra
    @Shin_Mothra Місяць тому

    Ki Adi Mundi spake "I am," and thus he was...in the Acolyte.

  • @whiskeyhound
    @whiskeyhound 28 днів тому

    Only 8 minutes in and he's almost crying when saying Ki-adi Mundi, I'm sure he's gonna bring some good points.