Stats show mass semigration of South Africans moving from Johannesburg to Cape Town
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- Опубліковано 28 вер 2024
- The latest statistics show that the mass semigration of South Africans moving from Johannesburg to Cape Town and the coast is not slowing down.
But while moving down country is on the rise , what are the implications for the property market left behind in Johannesburg? Newzroom Afrika’s Nic Andersen explains.
Tune into Newzroom Afrika DStv channel 405 for more.
Cape town is the only city that currently works in South Africa. The ANC has destroyed every other city in the country
not true, visit Nyanga, Gugulethu, Khayelitsha and the rest of the Cape Flats. DA is failing dismally.
@@africantraveller8303 , we don measure a city or province on the number of squatter camps coz if that were the case, Johannesburg would even make the list coz it has an overwhelming number of squatter camps. We measure a city by it's infrastructure, it's governance and policy and policy fulfillment. All ANC cities have collapsed on that front.
@@africantraveller8303 the recent taxi strike shows the world that Capetown is not different from other provinces. Agree with you
@@africantraveller8303 wow because Johannesburg doesn't have any squatter camps neh??🤔
Wynberg, Belville ,Cape Town Come see the drug trafficking here .Dirty streets .People pretending to be hawkers selling Alcohol? That's how well DA is doing
Infrastructure under ANC and associates rule is broken😢
In the US, leftist who bleat about equity, inclusion and diversity are collapsing entire states with their "defund the police" and other nonsense and afterwards, when they see the mess they've created they pack up and move to conservative states where they start bleating about the same nonsense.
This trend will happen here. They have collapsed KZN, EC, Gau... now time to move to the one place that still works... so they can vote for ANC from there.
If you’re coming to the western cape vote DA. Please don’t vote in the people that made Joburg kak.
After taxi strike, nop danko😳
@@phumlamazibuko3003 I agree. You should let the taxis continue to break the law as and when they see fit. Stuff all the law abiding citizens. What do we care for them?
@@phumlamazibuko3003if it wasnt DA, then the Taxi strike would have been waay worse
@@phumlamazibuko3003stay in jhb with that eff attitude
Because the DA know how to run something
for white people
not true, visit Nyanga, Gugulethu, Khayelitsha and the rest of the Cape Flats. DA is failing dismally.
True, DA run to the moon and 2019 votes drops by 5%
Nyanga, Gugulethu and Khayelitsha are ANC run wards... Look it up. The only one that votes DA is the Cape flats. Also the only thing policing is done by national government… you know SAPS means SOUTH AFRICAN police force. Thankfully the DA has proposed the provincial powers bill which can hopefully let us fix the crime problem, along with load shedding and water shortages that we now have thanks to the ANC.
The irony of voting for the ANC then move to a place not run by the ANC
The irony hey! I love your comment.
Comment should be pinned, well said!
It’s crazy!
I moved from KZN to a to town close to Cape Town 23 years ago. I visited my former home town on the KZN South Coast two weeks ago. My, was I shocked. Not just the town but the whole Metro is a total mess, thanks to the ANC.
not true, visit Nyanga, Gugulethu, Khayelitsha and the rest of the Cape Flats. DA is failing dismally.
@@africantraveller8303 don't have to visit there, the problem is more than what you think. These people choose to live like that. There is a brand new township built less than five years ago in the town where I live. . That place is already starting to look like a shack settlement. The government gives you a home, you have to make improvements to it, don't build shacks around it. Furthermore pay for your services, don't expect everything for free.
@@nelsonchinasamy9857 Exactly. The electorates profile is reflected in the inept government they put in power. It's still up to the individual to improve their living standards themselves and not expect handouts. The better administration of the Western Cape is unable to keep everyone happy considering the vast swathes of squatter communities on their doorstep with limited private enterprise for support.
@@africantraveller8303only Cape Flats are DA ward, & they are working there, the others thanks to the Anc!
@@africantraveller8303what a foolish comment by whom?
Another fact they don't mention is that many coloureds and blacks born in Cape Town spent years in Jhb making their money and now they are returning because they need to be next to their aging parents. These people moved to Jhb because in Cape Town it was always difficult for brown people to climb the corporate ladder. Another Cpt to Jhb exodus took place after many clothing and fishing factories closed.
Doubt this very highly. I was literally turned down for a manager position because it had to be a black person and i was white. There was literally no one else applying but I still wasn't allowed to get promoted. If you are blck in South Africa its very very easy to climb the corporate ladder.
@@peterfile3257 I'm talking about 20-plus years ago, hence they are coming back now because they had time to earn enough in Joburg to buy a house in their hometown Cpt now. It was the same for colored people in Durban. Highrise buildings like Metropolian in Beara, Jhb were mainly occupied by them.
@@peterfile3257you were turned down from a managerial position.... The black young graduates don't even get a chance to start. They move to Joburg... Almost everyone who had a decent degree, in Accounting, Finance, and Engineering in my peers who graduate around 2013-2016 moved to Jhb. Those who remained were underpaid and thus live in Dilapidated areas while working as professional... White counterparts earn higher immediately and are groomed for management early on into their career.
Those without degrees suffer even more as they have to have an agency to get hired... I know more than 10 capetonians who been workin for a mega company for more than 10 years without promotions, or permanent employment... While their white and Muslim colleagues get all the posts to advance, even the laziest of them who have to be carried by the experienced black colleague...
I never voted but I now encourage all black folk to vote eff... Especially youth.
As long as they don’t vote for ANC in Cape Town
We need to remove the DA
@@africantraveller8303 after the current taxi strike really made it clear which party to vote for in Capetown, 2024 is near🎉🎉🎉
Do you blame anyone?? The only province, amongst other things, that stands up for the rule of law.
If you have a problem with that, best you move to another province where you can do what you like.
not true, visit Nyanga, Gugulethu, Khayelitsha and the rest of the Cape Flats. DA is failing dismally.
@@tracey627 🤣🤣🤣
@@africantraveller8303 best you sort yourselves out then......
@@tracey627 He's one of those Indians pretending to be black, its a real thing - similar to scam offices or the entire block. These guys get paid to pretend to be black on comments sections. Total clown world.
People should ideally move those regions governed by the party they voted for... so if they voted ANC, then move to ANC governed city. If DA then by all means - move to a DA governed city.
Ain't it a slap in the face when people move to regions ruled by a party they've never voted for (let alone voted) to reap its benefits and left others with their "scraps".
If people want change in their city, in their province, in their city... then for GOODNESS SAKE vote for change!
Problem is ANC/EFF supporters moving to cape town then will bring Their nonsense with them.
It’s they’re country,we are not visitors in SA let’s get that straight
@@kel571Thank you
You must be out of your mind 🙄
@@kel571 no one said anything about visitors. Its about criminals breaking down society, improvements what we have created by sacrifice and maintained through vision. If you want to be on a bandwagon and burn down everything, you darn well bet we will fight for our way of living over anarchy and destruction. We will not bend over for no race card or who was first, we all that live here make it our country, not only a select few.
not true, visit Nyanga, Gugulethu, Khayelitsha and the rest of the Cape Flats. DA is failing dismally.
Keep on lying to yourself.
We welcome all but don't come here and vote ANC please!
All I'm hearing from the expert is that in Jhb, it's a buyers market at the moment.
The gentrification is about to begin, Generational Capetonians will soon not be able to afford to live in their own city and they will have nowhere to move to because Cape Town is the last outpost. One can't see this semigration to Cape Town as a win because of its 'success' but because of the massive failure of surrounding provinces and cities. Cape towns 'success' will be its ultimate downfall, the cost alone to meet the increasing needs of traffic infrastructure, municipal services, housing for the overcrowded townships are but a few of the challenges and are huge, good luck to all Caprtonians with the increase costs as well as overpriced food. Boomtime for developers, estate agents and retail suppliers, not so much for anyone else.
In 1994 Mandela send bus loads of people to Cape Town with the promise of jobs and homes; 30 years later; they are still waiting 🙄
Leave your kak voting habits there and come here to vote for change.
Cape Town needs to build more water storage facilities. Also, their rates and taxes are ridiculously high for what you get.
There’s a lot that CPT has to do,Gauteng is far much better in terms of modern housing,modern development and also in Gauteng there’s not ridiculous old looking out of fashion housing that costs more than R20m but in CPT there are
@@kel571 I fully agree.
@@kel571it's called a historical house and will be around long after the rubbish that's recently been constructed in jhb falls apart.
@@shawnberry6110 historic?more like abandoned houses just because they’re are built on WESTERN CAPE land okay it’s million and also horrible apartments with double deposits like for what!!!?
1) bulk water is national government
2) we pay the lowest rates when compared KZN and Gauteng by a large margin.
Johannesburg will never ever recover. cANCer destroyed it.
not true, visit Nyanga, Gugulethu, Khayelitsha and the rest of the Cape Flats. DA is failing dismally.
Keep on lying to yourself.
@@africantraveller8303 You're hurt that DA governs both the city of Cape Town and Western Cape well. Something your ANC/EFF will never achieve in their lifetime
Afraid so - fact!.
Everybody wants to live under the DA
They will come to DA-led climes and proceed to vote for ANC because y'know, "our people".
Until it’s time to vote :(
in your mind
@@jameskillu9171 For someone with no voting rights, why you so bothered about the DA, its not like you have any chance to vote them in or out. Wasted energy, its your ZIm elections soon please go vote Zanu-PF out.
not true, visit Nyanga, Gugulethu, Khayelitsha and the rest of the Cape Flats. DA is failing dismally.
Keep on lying to yourself.
We all watch Expresso every morning that's why. We want to look at a mountain too.
Cape of independence 2024
not true, visit Nyanga, Gugulethu, Khayelitsha and the rest of the Cape Flats. DA is failing dismally.
Keep on lying to yourself.
@@africantraveller8303lol... Just last week the same people living in those areas destroyed their own infrastructure.... They failing themselves
@@africantraveller8303 watch the space
GROOT TREK TERUG KAAP TOE.....
Ex Jozi from 38 years ago and I have tried as little to visit Jozi, pity the people from the north are so amazing, unfortunately the governance or lack thereof has brought on the decay and rampant crime.
You haven't seen crime yet if you haven't seen cape Town extortion, murder, violent robbery. Even major clubs, construction projects, shops can only Operate if they pay fees to gangs
And the poor remain to put up with what they vote for.
But the free t shirts from the last vote are wearing out,they need new ones. 🤣
Joburg is an overcrowded dump site
Just like Durtbin! I wonder why? Lol
@@Pipebenda-ZADurban is not overcrowded like JHB 😊 JHB is worse
not true, visit Nyanga, Gugulethu, Khayelitsha and the rest of the Cape Flats. DA is failing dismally.
You are talking about poor areas with many issues , I'm talking about the city, remember we're talking HOUSES/PROPERTY. Compare CPT downtown to JHB downtown. Not even a debate
@@DynastyIAGthat's our votes in 2024 will blow your mind 😂 just watch you will sing a different tune🎉🎉 Those poor township will vote for the better of our the township.
Yes for sure not a seller's market
Concentrated population overload.
What exactly is the story here? Houses in the Cape are expensive but come through anyways🤷🏿♂️
In America there are border posts between counties which we call provinces; seeing that we have open borders and so many illegal migration; DA should put up a border post to keep terrorists and criminals out as well as undocumented immigrants.
Property is ridiculously expensive in Cape Town
@@charliecane3621 all over SA if you want to live in a "safe" area which is false security as criminals are violent and vicious; will target any home.
Thats to keep anc and eff scrap away
@@wollie4358 that’s not how money works. Make some 😉
I WONDER why
DA rules.
not true, visit Nyanga, Gugulethu, Khayelitsha and the rest of the Cape Flats. DA is failing dismally.
@@africantraveller8303it's the ANC not tax paying voters that are destroying those areas...
@africantraveller8303 well if you keep on stealing stuff from officials and shooting at them the whole time they will stay away and all planned projects and emergency services cease in those areas. If you feel so strongly about it there is always Joburg to go back to. ......or you start helping the City to get things done. I have worked on various community project driven by the city and the thanks we get on things get stolen destroyed or burned. So you should take responsibility for those actions.
@@christiangerhardt2408 man... I have a personal source that tells the operation managers for the power stations up in Johannesburg needs to travel with private security and wear bullet proof vests... Talk about a warzone
@csl750 we had gangsters shooting at us and the community trying to kill us in Kayalitsha Gugs and Langa. I know of emergency response staff who absolutely refuse to work in those areas due to life threatening situations driven by the community. Nah man they can moan as much as they want if they don't want service, or chase it away with violence they must sort it out themselves.
Could they not?
The Republic of The Western Cape ❤
If they are black then unfortunately they will soon be back 😢 on the other hand for the you know who, it’s evident that ‘94 wasn’t a lifetime away.
We need Secession
They will come back after the elections!
What race and age group is moving to Cape Town
And if this stats are really big, maybe the Western Cape can build new cities
In due course those inflated prices you paid in the Cape will too fall in the hands of the ANC and then you've lost twice round.
Cape town is still ours, black ppl live anywhere they want no foreigners will tell us where to live or not. We know the real foreigners here and stop blaming Zimbabweans, they black and is their land to.
Sounds very racist to an Australian
Cape town is not yours show me proof it's yours or black ppl
U ar e recist eish
@@Gosurfdammit no one is racist if you think that way you will never succeed in life
@@Gosurfdammit Thank you for noticing, we learned from the best.
Whether Joburg will improve or not will be a demographic issue. We all know a certain demographic has a knack for turning beautiful districts into slums and crime hotspots.
I stay in Claremont Cape Town and I will tell you now that there’s nothing special with the Cape town,Gauteng is far much better than CPT
The housing sector in CPT its target market is foreign nationals with foreign currency not in SA and they will deny this but it’s the truth!
Please go back and make space asseblief
@@AbuSmith-ew6gi haha go back where? I should be telling you go back because you are a visitor in this country
@@kel571 yivale mfana 😂😂
@@kel571 nguwe othi kuncono egoli, kutheni ulapha ke?
Not only JHB residents going to the Cape, but KZN residents too. I moved to Durbanville 20 years ago from Westville, KZN. Return visits every few years reveal the ever increasing descent of DBN into a 3rd World cesspool (PMB too). JHB & PTA visit last year show the same degeneration. Security guards sit outside Saxonwold homes that make Fort Knox look like a shack.
But Cape Town is more dangerous🤷♂️
Same here. Moved from Durban North to George in 2005. Best decision I've taken. Have only been back to Durban once (for wedding in 2018). The state of the place was disgraceful. The CBD (where I used to work) was "third world" and dangerous.
@@africantraveller8303Don't be a hater because your city is a dump. 😂
Cape flats yes, Durbanville no.@@africantraveller8303
We moved from kzn to w cape a year back. It's like living in another country. Things work. Kzn municipality still owe us over R100 000 rates refund (been told no money to pay us back) We are still paying the price for living there. Beware before buying property in kzn.
If this is not propaganda then why most of graduates from all over provinces in SA relocate to GAUTENG, even myself im schooling in CPT but JHB is where I see myself.
Native Capetonian here.
I think its good that more people are coming to or wanting to come to the Cape.
As long as these new residents do not vote for the ANC or worse, the EFF, in the Cape, we can show the rest of South Africa how our country should be run.
Of course, there is still much that needs to be done in terms of improving the Mother City but despite the challenges and obstacles (Mostly caused by the National Government) it's in far better shape than the rest of the country from what I read and hear from friends staying elsewhere.
Yes because Cape flats, Nyanga, Khayelitsha don’t exist.
They will vote ANC and EFF.
@@khaltsharivist365Yes, because they don't PAY rates and taxes!!! Everything for FREE. Cheers KAAPSTAD
we need to remove DA. Whites in Cape Town have become arrogant, they forget that this is Africa.
I wonder who are native to cape town u people are a joke this is South Africa which belongs to the indigenous of this country black people whether they are in Cape Town u are still in SA
People obviously moving to escape the maladministration and crime of Gauteng and other provinces like Limpopo, but especially Natal
I know of some Capetown relocating to Joburg for work. They say there is no work in Capetown. The only problem is Capetown will be overpopulated soon.
It's already overpopulated
Black graduates have always relocated from Cape Town to Joburg... That hasn't changed... But they (media) will never make that a headline...
@@theninjainvestor1235 that's so true.
Even ANC and Zanu-PF destroyers own properties in Cape Town
Exactly
They are crazy. Joburg is a great place to live!
Really?? You don't get out much, do you? Joburg is falling apart.
I agree, Johannesburg has blue skies and sunshine throughout the year. I love the outdoor life as well. It has beautiful parks and hiking trails and so many cool places to hang out. Unfortunately, Johannesburg which was a place you could make money and do business, is no more. People are battling to make ends meet due to high interest rates and inflation. I've seen a steady decline over the past few years.
I call BS, semigration is not even a real word! People work in Gauteng and retire in the cape nothing new. Gauteng is the economic powerhouse of South Africa. As people retire they want to move to a quieter place it has always been like this stop with the propaganda please!!!
Anc is big big problem and please please anc must now now go go go out. I not like anc. Anc like money steal. I hate anc.
not true, visit Nyanga, Gugulethu, Khayelitsha and the rest of the Cape Flats. DA is failing dismally.
Keep on lying to yourself.
@@africantraveller8303 anc is failing
After Cape Town is full,most will leave this country, especially whites and lndians who are highly qualified. SA's unemployment problem can NEVER EVER be solved by this government, it will continue to rise.Almost 70 % of the GDP is contributed by the minorities, and this will gradually drop as more people leave .Only a robust manufacturing industry can solve the unemployment problem, but who will want to invest in SA,because of our labour laws,militant unions,very expensive labour,constant labour issues ect.Most of all can we compete with China,lndia,Thailand ect.on cost of manufacturing, production, efficiency. So SA is not a good investment market.
Spot on - lest we forget the fundamentals of succesful economies.
So true 👍🏻
The success of the Western Cape may very well become its downfall. There are way too many developments there now, in a city which already had a huge water crisis
Dont worry the shack dwellers are also coming through and then property devalues crime rises and lower stages loadsedding is no longer do-able...
Sorry in capetown they enforce the laws, no anc thugs
@@wollie4358 all GA busses the police officer and Britidh doctor shot and killed happened in wards ANC own in WC Also where the shacks are booming and loadshedding strain prospers
So yes DA enforces the law but ANC is doing everything they have to cause problems.
Those shackies don't want to be left behind. Confused people, they vote ANC and then run to the DA.
That's where the taxis come in. You dont need a train or bus station to create a new informal settlement. This is why the EFF and ANC and COSATU are pro SANTACO
Just vote DA if the DA ran south Africa we wouldn't have load shedding
People are moving from the cities to rural areas too. Building big houses, running away from municipal rates. Maybe that does n't interest the so called 'elites' but I think there are more people moving to the countryside than CPT
Perhaps chiefs should start boasting about that too! But I guess they do not see the need to make that noise.
Cape Town isn't the only destination for semigrants 😃 It really depends on your financial situation and what type of work you do. Be prepared for a slower way of life. Do your due diligence before you move to a new village/town, just as you would if you were moving overseas. With all the kak that is happening in "western" countries, I still maintain that the Western Cape is THE best place to be! I wish all semigrants all the best! 💗💓💓
The city can not cope. A house was high jacked in Wynberg area mostly by foreigners, 30 people stayed there, the house was burned down early this month and one person died. Another 29 people without a place to stay. People from Cape Town are moving to the Garden Route.
Good for people reaching retirement age, but if you still want to make money there is no place like Joburg.
Even Johannesburg is dead now. People are battling to make ends meet due to high interest rates and inflation. I've seen a steady decline over the past few years.
I live in Pietermaritzburg and it’s CBD is littered, dirty and run down. Thanks to the ANC. There are people trying to rejuvenate and tidy the CBD up, and those people are concerned community members - not the useless ANC run municipality. Obviously ANC voters don’t mind dirty and run down cities. Awfully low standards these ANC politicians and voters seem to have, which also ties in with a lack of pride in their surroundings. By contrast, driving through Howick yesterday, after not going through there for a few years, it is much cleaner, very little litter and it just looks so much more promising than Maritzburg. I wonder why? Oh yes, because the ANC are no longer running Howick. The ANC are only care about themselves and their bank accounts. If the really cared about all South Africans, they would start cleaning up their cities and towns, encouraging investment with much less red tape, and sorting out the crime. Just the basics would be a good start. Problem is, they only care about themselves.
not true, visit Nyanga, Gugulethu, Khayelitsha and the rest of the Cape Flats. DA is failing dismally.
Keep on lying to yourself.
@@africantraveller8303 Easy to just churn out the same simple reply hey. Did I mention the DA anywhere in my comment, did you even read my comment properly? All the ANC supporters are the ones lying to themselves. As I mentioned, it is community members with regards to trying to clean up the Pietermaritzburg CBD, and they are not a political party. So why don’t the community members of the poverty stricken areas in the Cape that you mentioned, just for starters, clean up litter, and encourage the youth to study hard and play sport, not join gangs and be involved in crime. There is a group of youngsters that call themselves The green youth of Kwapata outside PIetermaritzbrg and they are doing it for their community and not expecting the ANC to do so, those are the future leaders of this country, not like so many of the useless ANC politicians who only think about themselves and their own enriching.
😂😂😂where do you live? Please tell me, I want to visit this utopia that puts Cape Town to shame. That being said, please stay there 🙏
@@JonathanHilierChannel Where did I say there was a utopia? People like you twisting things around to suit your narrative. I mentioned people trying to improve their own communities. Maybe people like you are quite happy to live in littered and dirty areas, and expecting everyone to fix your problems.
@CyberRags Excellent, absolutely well encapsulated. Ask not what your country can do for you, but what you can do for your country. Entitlement mindset will mean complete destruction without a doubt.
Can we just vote for the Republic of the Western Cape already...
...they're anticipating Cape as an independent country
They'll destroy cpt the way they did jhb. There's a reason cpt is the only thriving metro
I'm a Driver Mon-Fri inbound to Town in peak hour... there's definitely a increase of people from somewhere, because my commuting time increased from 35 min to 50-55 minutes 😮
Traffic in Cape Town is a disaster. 10 years back to travel to central from Bellville & back was already a nightmare - can believe it's far worse now.
I was thinking of doing the same 😂
Lol😂 GP crumbling 😅
Gauteng will become a shadow of its former self
Already way down that slippery slide.
It already is. I've seen a steady decline over the past few years
In South Africa when we conclude on such things would be great to know they are residing in capetown and what is the colour of their skin..it’s census! It will inform reasons why is that the case of this semigrTion
Another thing to note is that the reason why this is a concern is because of market shifts and we all know who is at the top that economics…
Would ONE Property Professional looking for stock in Western Cape Platteland, please give me a "nod"
U great a wrong impression.
Black folk dont do that nonsense..we stay behind Joburg
yes
Cape Town is very expensive and very miserable in winter. If you are not very wealthy you won't be happy there. Also very Snob. A relative of mine and his ghastly wife even learnt French. Who are you going to speak French to in Fish Hoek? Totally ridiculous. Gauteng people are still the best.
You sound poor and bitter.
Ever heard of blankets
Look who actually are moving there. Mostly people who made billions from the mines and industries in Gauteng. They knew that once these mines ran dry, there were going to be millions of jobless people left stranded in these areas, putting tremendous pressure on social services. These are the people who litterally installed the ANC as the ruling party, even though they also controlled the NP as well. Walk into many houses in the Northern suburbs of JHB, and you'll see photo's of Mandela posing with them, but these are also the people who barricaded puplic roads and streets to control access in their neighbourhoods almost over night, in 1994 when the ANC came to power. No wonder they want secession of the Western Cape. Good Luck, they will eventually destroy the Cape as well.
You have no idea what you're talking about. How many "billionaire mining magnate families" do you think there are in South Africa?? The thousands of people that are moving to the Western Cape are normal people who just wants a better life, away from the ANC decay.
This is DA propaganda, which is full of lies. Taxis dont want to operate in capetown
Capetonians don't want taxis in Cape town either .
all taxis must get banned
Taxi's can go to joburg
which South Africans,the beneficiaries of apartheid of course
Where is your evidence, do you know these people? You have had 30 years(Apartheid lasted 46 years) to build a future. Blame the current government for not building one for you. Where are all the ANC beneficiaries...? Oh yes the cape lol.
you've had the country for almost THIRTY YEARS and what have you done?? Joburg is falling apart because of the new government, not apartheid. Wake up.
hence come next elections EFF is the only party that has my vote.
@@kgotsopeace9158 jip, and that's exactly why you'll stay poor and hungry living in shacks.
Jozi will never recover and will become a black hole.
not true, visit Nyanga, Gugulethu, Khayelitsha and the rest of the Cape Flats. DA is failing dismally.
Keep on lying to yourself.
@@africantraveller8303 eish no no things a very gud looking up for cape flets and kayhlita. Da is helping thoze there too., you will see mista travveller.
I agree. I've seen a steady decline in Johannesburg over the past few years and the same with Durban
Ex Bolabmnd, then RAU,then Durban an 25 years back in Boland . Paarl which is,clean and safe. But ANC will eventually also try to take cpt. They won't succeed.