Just bought a t470 with core i5 6th gen wit windows 11 for 153 usd, ngl its better tan new low end laptops also awesome video its very detailed you deserve more subs
Gosh dang no offense but you overpaid for that. you coulda gotten a Thinkpad T14 with a newer Ryzen chip for that price. I paid like $30 for a T470 2 months ago.
@@plmaresr ah here where I live almost used thinkpads on the markets sucks mostly damaged and worn down so we bought a laptop from a store thats gonna be thrown out so the battery health is still decent... Battery 1: 98% Battery 2: 94%
I'm glad you're starting to do computer vids! I had an experience with an HP Laptop running Windows 11. You can't even upgrade it, and it has a really cheap quality. I am watching this video on a Dell Latitude E6420, Which the specs have a Intel Core i7-2640M at 2.80GHz, 8GB RAM, 150GB HDD, and Windows 7 Professional SP1. It does any basic task i could do with it. I also have a Dell Latitude D630, with a Intel Core Duo at 1.66GHz, 2GB RAM, 250GB HDD, and Windows Vista Business SP2. Runs fine, i just need to upgrade the RAM a little more. And my main machine is a Dell Inspiron 3647 PC, with a Intel Core i3 at 3.70GHz, 6GB RAM, 1TB HDD, and has Windows 10 on it.
Same as phones nowadays. I would rather use an old flagship phone from 2020, rather than today's budget options for the same price. You'll just have to change the battery if the old one doesn't hold the charge, which is not that expensive. Proud owner of a Samsung S20 here, bought for 130$ :)
This is good information. I got lucky and ran into a yt video about not buying a new consumer laptop and buying a second hand business laptop instead. I was shopping around for a new cheap laptop at the time. Dodged a bullet there. Now I'm searching for a second hand Lenovo business laptop. I'm not in the US so pricing isn't quite as good as it is for you Americans.
The best way to compare is to divide (CPU GHz, amount of RAM, speed of RAM, amount of transaction CPURAM can be produced, amount of transaction storageRAMCPU can be produced) by price you have to pay. That's it.
Yea, my main computer is a T580 I got for $75. I was just missing the charger (which I got new for $25), the internal backup battery, and the storage was only 128 GB, so I put in a 512 I had in a T420 I don't use right now. I can't even sell an X1 Carbon from 2015 for half the price I got it for a few years ago. I word of warning about a few generations of thinkpads: there is a thunderbolt firmware issue that can burn out something on the motherboard, including the USB-C charging port if it's run too long without upgrading the firmware, essentially making it so you can't power your device. I'm not sure if any of those damaged devices are floating around on eBay, but I had to update my T580, and I had to jump through some hoops to do it.
A person like me would have been fooled. I built a computer years ago with a Cyrix microprocessor on board. I assumed that the rapid rate of improvement had continued in the last 30 years and would have selected the new machine. The rate of improvement (progress) has apparently leveled off. The Bean Counters are up to their old tricks and cheap new computers may be little more than junk. This video was a service.
I bought a used HP Elitebook 840 G5 for just 7000 pesos ($120) and I love it. It has few scratches and missing rubber feet, but it doesn't affect the performance. I can't buy a "good" brand new laptop in that price range.
What you say is extremely correct. My mom needed a laptop a while back and I found her a thinkpad T60 (like 10 years ago) which were second hand from some company. That laptop outlived my 2 more modern ones. It was originally set up for WinXP with compatibility for Vista but in end it was able to run Win10 with some loading time issues. However people still buy new because of 2 things. One warranty. I personally think warranty is a scam as they usually run out when the laptop starts showing issues. And 2 the idea to upgrade the machine yourself scares people. Still educating themselves with guides and advise videos like yours hopefully helps
Wow that Insignia has the same specs as a Dell Venue 11 Pro from 2014 that I found in the dumpster. Crazy that they would still sell something like that in 2018. Even on Windows 8 it was painfully slow. Nowadays the CPU and memory maxes out from simply playing a UA-cam video. These super cheap new computers are e-waste straight out of the factory. I just recently joined the Thinkpad club. Recently on a road trip I went to a Goodwill where they sold donated computers. Recently the local college donated a bunch of older Thinkpads which was perfect because I've been looking for one for a long time. I was able to score a 2018 Thinkpad X280 with top end specs - 16G ram, an i7-8650U cpu, 1080p touchscreen panel, and fingerprint scanner. The ssd was removed for security reasons, but regardless it was only $30! I popped in a cheap Crucial and it's perfectly usable today! It's still snappy and can handle all the apps I need for college perfectly. I'm very excited to enter the Thinkpad club! It's crazy what I've been missing out on. Excellent video, thank you!
i used to use a i7 6th gen processor in my old dell but i now have a i5 12500h which is about the same performance as an m1 max processor but not as energy efficient still a good computer (the dell with the i7 6th gen)
The only thing I'd add is for the average consumer to look for an 8th gen or newer intel or equivalent AMD cpu when considering a used laptop. With Windows 10 going EOL later this year, those should be supported for Windows 11 without the need for the work-arounds necessary to install and get yearly feature updates on unsupported hardware.
I got a used i7-8th gen dell latitude with 16gigs of ram and 512 gig ssd for like $320 and I definitely agree with you here. It's built like a tank, nice looking screen, very fast, very powerful, has a dedicated Nvidia gpu, so there's really no reason to buy a brand new low end laptop. You'll just be wasting money. Its just perfect as my college laptop
Lol, I got a pre-owned Thinkpad T25 for $270 in pristine condition. CPU prob is not as powerful as the 8th gen quad core but nevertheless capable enough for my tasks. Will prob resell it later for a higher price due to its collectability.
The Lenovo laptops such as the Thinkpad are not that durable, only the hinges are because they are made of metal. A few days ago I accidently stepped on mine whilst the lid was fully closed. The screen glass didn't break because I didn't put my full weight on it however the case lid did bend slightly which has resulted in an explosion of coloured pixels and lines across the screen. The casing whilst feels like metal is actually made of a fusion of a predominantly plastic composite with added magnesium. In my case the touch capability was unaffected so it still functions as a touch screen in windows but with a monitor attached vie it's hdmi port. The rest of the laptop, a T480s still functions as normal, but it didn't take much to wreck the screen should you stand on it. I'm awaiting a new screen to arrive from the USA to Europe. My old 2008 Toshiba Satellite is built like a tank and still works today without issues, been stood on and fallen so many times in 16 years where as my Lenovo T480 has broken within 2 months with not too much force of one foot.
Just bought a t470 with core i5 6th gen wit windows 11 for 153 usd, ngl its better tan new low end laptops also awesome video its very detailed you deserve more subs
@@FroquaCubez Thanks I’m glad you enjoyed the video! You really can’t go wrong with older thinkpads.
Gosh dang no offense but you overpaid for that. you coulda gotten a Thinkpad T14 with a newer Ryzen chip for that price. I paid like $30 for a T470 2 months ago.
@@plmaresr ah here where I live almost used thinkpads on the markets sucks mostly damaged and worn down so we bought a laptop from a store thats gonna be thrown out so the battery health is still decent...
Battery 1: 98%
Battery 2: 94%
I'm glad you're starting to do computer vids!
I had an experience with an HP Laptop running Windows 11. You can't even upgrade it, and it has a really cheap quality. I am watching this video on a Dell Latitude E6420, Which the specs have a Intel Core i7-2640M at 2.80GHz, 8GB RAM, 150GB HDD, and Windows 7 Professional SP1. It does any basic task i could do with it.
I also have a Dell Latitude D630, with a Intel Core Duo at 1.66GHz, 2GB RAM, 250GB HDD, and Windows Vista Business SP2. Runs fine, i just need to upgrade the RAM a little more.
And my main machine is a Dell Inspiron 3647 PC, with a Intel Core i3 at 3.70GHz, 6GB RAM, 1TB HDD, and has Windows 10 on it.
@@RandomUA-camr52602 Thanks I’m glad you are enjoying them! Those are the type of machines I love!
Same as phones nowadays. I would rather use an old flagship phone from 2020, rather than today's budget options for the same price. You'll just have to change the battery if the old one doesn't hold the charge, which is not that expensive.
Proud owner of a Samsung S20 here, bought for 130$ :)
That's an amazing price for a S20
This is good information. I got lucky and ran into a yt video about not buying a new consumer laptop and buying a second hand business laptop instead. I was shopping around for a new cheap laptop at the time. Dodged a bullet there. Now I'm searching for a second hand Lenovo business laptop. I'm not in the US so pricing isn't quite as good as it is for you Americans.
The best way to compare is to divide (CPU GHz, amount of RAM, speed of RAM, amount of transaction CPURAM can be produced, amount of transaction storageRAMCPU can be produced) by price you have to pay. That's it.
Yea, my main computer is a T580 I got for $75. I was just missing the charger (which I got new for $25), the internal backup battery, and the storage was only 128 GB, so I put in a 512 I had in a T420 I don't use right now. I can't even sell an X1 Carbon from 2015 for half the price I got it for a few years ago.
I word of warning about a few generations of thinkpads: there is a thunderbolt firmware issue that can burn out something on the motherboard, including the USB-C charging port if it's run too long without upgrading the firmware, essentially making it so you can't power your device. I'm not sure if any of those damaged devices are floating around on eBay, but I had to update my T580, and I had to jump through some hoops to do it.
A person like me would have been fooled. I built a computer years ago with a Cyrix microprocessor on board. I assumed that the rapid rate of improvement had continued in the last 30 years and would have selected the new machine. The rate of improvement (progress) has apparently leveled off. The Bean Counters are up to their old tricks and cheap new computers may be little more than junk. This video was a service.
I bought a used HP Elitebook 840 G5 for just 7000 pesos ($120) and I love it. It has few scratches and missing rubber feet, but it doesn't affect the performance. I can't buy a "good" brand new laptop in that price range.
@@joshuarivera2603 good deal!
What you say is extremely correct. My mom needed a laptop a while back and I found her a thinkpad T60 (like 10 years ago) which were second hand from some company. That laptop outlived my 2 more modern ones. It was originally set up for WinXP with compatibility for Vista but in end it was able to run Win10 with some loading time issues. However people still buy new because of 2 things. One warranty. I personally think warranty is a scam as they usually run out when the laptop starts showing issues. And 2 the idea to upgrade the machine yourself scares people. Still educating themselves with guides and advise videos like yours hopefully helps
100% Hopefully me and other youtubers can help people make the right decision when buying a laptop.
Wow that Insignia has the same specs as a Dell Venue 11 Pro from 2014 that I found in the dumpster. Crazy that they would still sell something like that in 2018. Even on Windows 8 it was painfully slow. Nowadays the CPU and memory maxes out from simply playing a UA-cam video. These super cheap new computers are e-waste straight out of the factory. I just recently joined the Thinkpad club. Recently on a road trip I went to a Goodwill where they sold donated computers. Recently the local college donated a bunch of older Thinkpads which was perfect because I've been looking for one for a long time. I was able to score a 2018 Thinkpad X280 with top end specs - 16G ram, an i7-8650U cpu, 1080p touchscreen panel, and fingerprint scanner. The ssd was removed for security reasons, but regardless it was only $30! I popped in a cheap Crucial and it's perfectly usable today! It's still snappy and can handle all the apps I need for college perfectly. I'm very excited to enter the Thinkpad club! It's crazy what I've been missing out on. Excellent video, thank you!
@@Evan420 Glad you enjoyed! That’s a great machine that will definitely last you years to come!
i used to use a i7 6th gen processor in my old dell but i now have a i5 12500h which is about the same performance as an m1 max processor but not as energy efficient still a good computer (the dell with the i7 6th gen)
Personally I think those $100 Laptops shouldn’t exists I made that mistake before. Thanks for the video . Those Lenovo’s/IBM are the way to go.
The only thing I'd add is for the average consumer to look for an 8th gen or newer intel or equivalent AMD cpu when considering a used laptop. With Windows 10 going EOL later this year, those should be supported for Windows 11 without the need for the work-arounds necessary to install and get yearly feature updates on unsupported hardware.
@@tonyz2897 yes that is definitely something to consider.
Good info!
I got a used i7-8th gen dell latitude with 16gigs of ram and 512 gig ssd for like $320 and I definitely agree with you here. It's built like a tank, nice looking screen, very fast, very powerful, has a dedicated Nvidia gpu, so there's really no reason to buy a brand new low end laptop. You'll just be wasting money. Its just perfect as my college laptop
@@candyts-sj7zh That will be good for years to come and you will have windows 11 support. No reason to upgrade.
Lol, I got a pre-owned Thinkpad T25 for $270 in pristine condition. CPU prob is not as powerful as the 8th gen quad core but nevertheless capable enough for my tasks. Will prob resell it later for a higher price due to its collectability.
The Lenovo laptops such as the Thinkpad are not that durable, only the hinges are because they are made of metal. A few days ago I accidently stepped on mine whilst the lid was fully closed. The screen glass didn't break because I didn't put my full weight on it however the case lid did bend slightly which has resulted in an explosion of coloured pixels and lines across the screen. The casing whilst feels like metal is actually made of a fusion of a predominantly plastic composite with added magnesium. In my case the touch capability was unaffected so it still functions as a touch screen in windows but with a monitor attached vie it's hdmi port. The rest of the laptop, a T480s still functions as normal, but it didn't take much to wreck the screen should you stand on it. I'm awaiting a new screen to arrive from the USA to Europe. My old 2008 Toshiba Satellite is built like a tank and still works today without issues, been stood on and fallen so many times in 16 years where as my Lenovo T480 has broken within 2 months with not too much force of one foot.
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