I'm so glad I can across this video to find you . I can't Waite to see the build in its entirety. I have a 06 LTR 450 I got in the summer of 2023 and spent the summer stripping it completely down to nothing and building it completely back up to basically a brand new machine with brand new everything. This bike looks so good and wanted it to make street legal but I also wanted it to make it stand alone and this motor you have would do that so like I said I can't Waite to watch you do this because if I don't go electric I'm going gsxr 750 in to her. Thank you for doing this.
@@wesleyserpone2097 it’s in the quad. Check out the other videos on my channel. I’ll be posting more performance videos of the quad once the snow clears up.
Would like to have seen the other side of the motor where the mounting and shaft are situated. Looked like you edited that out a couple of times, for some reason.
The Hypertorque Motor pairs well with the ASI BAC8000 controller, which provides smooth performance and allows you to fully unlock the motor’s potential with up to 400A peak current. For the battery, a 72V pack with a capacity of at least 60Ah and a discharge capability of 400A peak is ideal. We’ve had great results using Molicel P42A cells in our setups. Let me know if you need more details about the components!
Isn't the bottom line the power, not the torque since you can gear it as approriate for whatever the rpm/torque distribution of the motor happens to be?
Power and torque are closely related, but they impact performance in different ways. The bottom line depends on the application. Power determines the motor’s ability to sustain work over time, while torque provides the instant force needed for holeshots off the line and quick acceleration out of turns. With the Hypertorque Motor, its high torque density delivers strong acceleration without requiring additional gear reduction. This makes it ideal for applications like quads or motorcycles, where quick response and simplicity are critical. While gearing can help optimize speed or torque, having a motor with naturally higher torque gives you a big advantage in both versatility and performance.
wasn't yet looking for this type video when I found it but a very glad I did . as a younger man I was Razed on Mazda rotory engines. I have driven a wide range of vehichiles but have always missed the raw power of those rotory engines & now after 2 strokes , partial blindness & forced retirement . I find myself restricted to my Afikim C4 electric mobility scooter to get me around town. But even as much as I love my C4 ( wanted a S4 ) I am still building myself a custom mobility scooter based on a Pride Victory 10 that was my 1rst scooter. it has a proven top speed of 9 mph so I will use remove the stock 10" wheels & run 4 29" mountain bike tires dually style at rear & 20" great heavy 5 spoke wheels at front. it is my plan to run it as close to stock in the motor & transaxle assembly so I won't need to modify the wiring while increasing my top speed to about 32mph. still maintaining my ability to reduce my speed for indoors use & the flip of the stock switch for that purpose. as to that motor , it could fit into my custom very nicely! My custom is built to resemble a micro sized 1932 model TT C Cab delivery truck like my pop's 1rst ride. these were later heavily customized into hot rods Very cool in their day. so yes let me know when I can upgrade this motor! thanks a new fan.
@@PaulG.x Funny I don't recall requesting a critique by the spelling NAZIS! But maybe I'm being to harsh, maybe you missed the part about me being half blind. However I did neglect to add that even before loosing most of my sight to 2 strokes I have battled with spelling due to dyslexia all my life. But thanx for noticing ! Oh incase I forget to mention it " I don't give a flying f what you think of me or my post or anything really !" unless you are the dude in the video & then I might at least a very very tiny bit but than again Nope not a lil bit ch libtard who worries about what others think or say about & or to me. Take your critique & ride it bear back & hard!
@@CosmicEpiphany Great question! It really depends on your build, but for high-performance setups, I recommend looking into 18650 or 21700 lithium-ion cells configured into a custom pack. Brands like Samsung, LG, Molicel, or Lishen offer solid options. For simpler setups, pre-built packs from companies like Amorge, EM3EV or Grin Technologies are Make sure the battery’s voltage and capacity match the motor and controller for optimal performance. Let me know what kind of build you’re working on, and I can offer more specific advice!
@@mstreich you can see the drawing of the motor here. It has face plate mounting. www.ampsprockets.com/shop/golden-motor-gmx-hypertorque-11kw-axial-flux-motor
Hello Mike King here from, Placerville California. Where are you located? and do you sell any of your builds? My friend and I have several golden motor builds we are really interested in the axial flux motors. You’re doing some great work! I have a KTM 390 frame. We are putting in a standard, liquid cooled golden motor 96v set up in.
@@kingmikep2365 Hey Mike, thanks for the kind words! I’m based in Burlington, KY, and while I don’t typically sell my builds, I share a lot of the process and ideas behind them to help others with their projects. That KTM 390 frame with the liquid-cooled 96V Golden Motor setup sounds like an awesome build-I’d love to see how it turns out! The axial flux motors like the Golden Hypertorque are a big step up in terms of torque and efficiency. If you’re thinking about using one in a future project, let me know-I’d be happy to share my experience with it. Keep me posted on your build-it sounds like a beast in the making!
It looks great, I am building a reverse trike and I think it would work well in it. Could we see what controller you are using with it. Looks like it is a 3 phase. Looks like a cool project.
For this project, I’m using the Accelerated Systems BAC8000 controller, which pairs perfectly with the motor to unlock its full potential, including that 30kW peak power. It’s a solid choice for high-performance builds like yours. I’ll make sure to showcase the controller setup in more detail in a future video. Your reverse trike sounds awesome-can’t wait to see it in action!
Did someone recently put out a popular video, calling a two-in-the-front 'tadpole' trike a "reverse trike"? I've not really heard them called that before, & you're the second commenter on this video, to refer to them, that way!?
@@prophetzarquon I’m imagining something that’s more like a low speed / high torque situation where there is the ability to control each wheel individually. Like a split brake system on dune buggies but with hand levers instead of pedals.
@@michaelbishton9439 The Golden Hypertorque Motor weighs 39 lbs and costs $1,100 (depending on configuration). It’s rated for 11kW continuous power with peaks up to 30kW, delivering incredible torque density and high efficiency. As for a glider self-launch application, the motor’s compact size and high torque make it an interesting candidate. With the right controller and battery setup, it could provide the necessary thrust while keeping weight manageable. However, you’d need to carefully consider the power-to-weight ratio and endurance required for the glider to ensure it’s a good fit. Let me know if you’re exploring this further-I’d love to hear your thoughts!
@@jalapi1508 If (as google tells me) 11kW converts to 14hp and 30kW converts to 40hp, then it starts to look promising, since some self-launch gliders use the Rotax 447 rated at 40hp @6,500rpm with a reduction gear to drive prop. A typical gas takeoff is full throttle (6.5k) for ~ 3 minutes, then 5,800 (85%) for ~ 10-15 minutes to climb 2,000-3,000ft above ground to reach thermals. The gas engine or the batteries for the electric motor would need to run an additional 10-15min @ 11kw (55mph cruise speed) as a reserve. 447 Engine with starter = ~ 78lbs. 3gal tank = ~ 20lbs. Battery = ~10lbs Prop= ?, but the same weight for both options. Total = ~ 110 lbs. How does electric, batteries and controllers compare to that?
@ For the Hypertorque Motor, the motor itself weighs 39 lbs, and the controller, like the BAC8000, adds about 10 lbs. A 6-8kWh battery pack using Molicel P42A cells would weigh roughly 70-90 lbs. However, with solid-state lithium cells or Ampius cells, the weight could drop to 35-45 lbs since these cells weigh about 1/3 to 1/2 the weight of P42A cells. With these lighter options, the total electric system weight could range from 85-95 lbs, coming closer to the Rotax system’s 110 lbs while offering instant torque, no fuel consumption, and reduced maintenance.
@@jalapi1508 Sounds possible. Thanks for your responses. A 3 gallon tank would be ~ 700 cubic inches, or 9"*9"*9". It could still be a space problem. Where (space) to put the batteries effects weight and balance. I'll have to keep studying it.
Put it in a stark varg frame, there are a couple of other UA-camrs that have motor swapped the stark varg motor into other things, maybe you can get a frame from one of them
it looks like a great motorcycle motor. The voltage is a little lower than I would like to see on a modern motor. I expect +100VDC. Looking at the linked page I find it a stretch saying it will out perform a ME1507. The ME1507 is +44kW peak compared to this smaller 28kW peak. Though this motor still will be fun in a quad. Knowing from my past ME1507 quad build (and I am sure you saw this with yours) I suggest gearing it lower. I tried many gears but most importantly I had to upgrade to a 530 (#50) chain, the 420 chain was just too small and I was going through sprockets like crazy. I ended with a 47 tooth rear and a 11 tooth front. I have independent rear suspension so I am able to fit a bigger rear sprocket and not sacrifice clearance. Maybe consider adding a jack shaft to better dial in the gearing. I used a jack shaft in my mini bike build and made all the difference. I am very curious to see the final result. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the detailed feedback and suggestions! You’re absolutely right that the ME1507 has a higher peak power at 44kW, but in my experience, the Hypertorque Motor outperforms it in torque delivery, even without additional gear reduction, which has been a game-changer in my quad builds. As for voltage, this motor is optimized for slightly lower voltages, but it makes up for it with its high torque density and efficiency, especially in applications where torque is prioritized over speed. For this build, I’m running it with an Accelerated Systems BAC8000 controller to maximize its potential. I hear you on gearing-it’s something I’ll definitely be experimenting with as the build progresses. I’ve had similar experiences with smaller chains and sprockets wearing out quickly, so your advice about upgrading to a 530 chain and dialing in the gearing with a jackshaft is spot-on. I’ll keep this in mind, especially as I finalize the drivetrain setup. Thanks for sharing your insight-it’s always great to hear from others working on similar projects. I’ll be sure to share updates as the build comes together!
@@jalapi1508I see what you are saying. Going with a lighter quad and a smaller motor you more than likely outperform my heavier 500 lb quad with ME1507 with a 11+kWh pack ... though at a cost of distance and ability to climb steep hills. While A smaller lighter quad will be more agile on a track. I think that is how it goes anyways. 🤷♂️ My comment about the voltage was made in hopes that putting that bug in your ear may eventuall be repeated to Golden Motor 😉 but I suppose I may need to convince you. Remind them there is no down side to higher voltage. Remind them that HP is from voltage while even though current is related to torque and is nice but that HP can alway create torque, not the other way around. In the end it's all about the HP 💪 For others out there that want to better understand the relationship of HP and torque the UA-camr Engineering Explained has a great video about this. Though his video is about an ICE the principal is still the same. ua-cam.com/video/u-MH4sf5xkY/v-deo.html
I agree; even ebike motors like the Bafang m620 run better + more efficiently at higher voltages than low. Plus, batteries that can produce wall power voltages at nominal charge, are a great emergency supply to have. More ≥110V EMotos, please!
That's a very continuous load, often running flat out near max output for extended periods... For that you want a high continuous rating, rather than a high peak rating, even assuming you could provide plenty of cooling.
I designed a motor that I believe is very similar if not the same as that one, I know how it works and creates doubt torque. I emailed 5 motor companies in the UK telling them about my design and that I need a manufacturer to get them made. None of them replied now all of them are missing out on huge profits, these motor are the future. These motors can be made half the size of an ebike motors yet they'll put out the same the torque of standard motors, extra power, less weight = more speed. AND a very efficient electric motor will be a very efficient electric generator 😉👍🏼
Thre engine is allright... now if you had a battery with same energy density as gas, which could be charged in five minutes, and inexpensive to manufacture with cheap and easy to recycle materials, you'll be all set.
It's probably rated for 11kW continuous and can burst a lot more, the website mentions 72v 350a which would be 25,200w which would make since for a 11kW continuous rated motor.
Remember Torque = Acceleration and fun HP = Speed Added bonus of high torque is a simplified gear ratio usually achieved with a simple chain and sprockets.
Double the torque - WOW!! But what people actually do is use a reduction gearbox and get ten times the torque!! Which means you use a motor that is a tenth the weight along with a single speed reduction gearbox - which in total is a third the weight of you new motor
@@jalapi1508 The gearboxes used in all production EVs - they enable a 40kg motor with a 20kg gear reduction to do the same as a 400kg direct drive motor - or if this motor has twice the torque a 200kg motor 60 kg instead of 200 kg - about a third of the weight
@@duncancairncross Great point about reduction gearboxes! They’re excellent for increasing torque with smaller motors, but the Hypertorque Motor delivers high torque density directly, offering key advantages in efficiency, simplicity, and extended durability. Without the need for a gearbox, you avoid the maintenance, lubrication, and wear issues that gears introduce over time. This makes it ideal for lightweight builds that prioritize reliability and straightforward operation. I’d love to hear more about how you’ve used reduction systems in your projects!
@@jalapi1508 A single speed reduction gear is simple and if properly designed will last for a very very long time The basic physics means that Torque is roughly (very roughly) proportional to weight - an efficient layout uses a high rpm and reduction As far as lightweight builds are concerned this goes to an extreme with E-Bikes where they are now starting to use Harmonic gearboxes!! - look them up they are amazing!
I'm so glad I can across this video to find you . I can't Waite to see the build in its entirety. I have a 06 LTR 450 I got in the summer of 2023 and spent the summer stripping it completely down to nothing and building it completely back up to basically a brand new machine with brand new everything. This bike looks so good and wanted it to make street legal but I also wanted it to make it stand alone and this motor you have would do that so like I said I can't Waite to watch you do this because if I don't go electric I'm going gsxr 750 in to her. Thank you for doing this.
@@wesleyserpone2097 it’s in the quad. Check out the other videos on my channel. I’ll be posting more performance videos of the quad once the snow clears up.
Would like to have seen the other side of the motor where the mounting and shaft are situated. Looked like you edited that out a couple of times, for some reason.
You can see drawings and photos of the motor here www.ampsprockets.com/shop/golden-motor-gmx-hypertorque-11kw-axial-flux-motor
love pointless conspiracy theory logic
@@nc3826 😂
Why would you not include output in this video? Just turn the stupid thing around.@@jalapi1508
Motor brushelles inronner grande, só isso.
Looks like a lot of POWER. Nice clips 🔥
What kind of controller or battery it's need ?
The Hypertorque Motor pairs well with the ASI BAC8000 controller, which provides smooth performance and allows you to fully unlock the motor’s potential with up to 400A peak current. For the battery, a 72V pack with a capacity of at least 60Ah and a discharge capability of 400A peak is ideal. We’ve had great results using Molicel P42A cells in our setups. Let me know if you need more details about the components!
@@MarkPrince1317 i recommend using the BAC8000 by ASI.
@@jalapi1508 thank you very much brother for detailed information see you in upcoming videos
Beat regards ☕☕
want one for my golf cart project ... oh yeah
¿were did you get the controller? Thank you!
I have controller if you need one?
Isn't the bottom line the power, not the torque since you can gear it as approriate for whatever the rpm/torque distribution of the motor happens to be?
Power and torque are closely related, but they impact performance in different ways. The bottom line depends on the application. Power determines the motor’s ability to sustain work over time, while torque provides the instant force needed for holeshots off the line and quick acceleration out of turns.
With the Hypertorque Motor, its high torque density delivers strong acceleration without requiring additional gear reduction. This makes it ideal for applications like quads or motorcycles, where quick response and simplicity are critical. While gearing can help optimize speed or torque, having a motor with naturally higher torque gives you a big advantage in both versatility and performance.
@jalapi1508
Cool. Thanks!
wasn't yet looking for this type video when I found it but a very glad I did .
as a younger man I was Razed on Mazda rotory engines. I have driven a wide range of vehichiles but have always missed the raw power of those rotory engines & now after 2 strokes , partial blindness & forced retirement . I find myself restricted to my Afikim C4 electric mobility scooter to get me around town. But even as much as I love my C4 ( wanted a S4 ) I am still building myself a custom mobility scooter based on a Pride Victory 10 that was my 1rst scooter. it has a proven top speed of 9 mph so I will use remove the stock 10" wheels & run 4 29" mountain bike tires dually style at rear & 20" great heavy 5 spoke wheels at front. it is my plan to run it as close to stock in the motor & transaxle assembly so I won't need to modify the wiring while increasing my top speed to about 32mph. still maintaining my ability to reduce my speed for indoors use & the flip of the stock switch for that purpose. as to that motor , it could fit into my custom very nicely! My custom is built to resemble a micro sized 1932 model TT C Cab delivery truck like my pop's 1rst ride. these were later heavily customized into hot rods Very cool in their day. so yes let me know when I can upgrade this motor! thanks a new fan.
@@ThLynn-o3c awesome! Thanks for sharing.
Geez , being razed must have been a frightening experience
@@PaulG.x Funny I don't recall requesting a critique by the spelling NAZIS! But maybe I'm being to harsh, maybe you missed the part about me being half blind. However I did neglect to add that even before loosing most of my sight to 2 strokes I have battled with spelling due to dyslexia all my life. But thanx for noticing ! Oh incase I forget to mention it " I don't give a flying f what you think of me or my post or anything really !" unless you are the dude in the video & then I might at least a very very tiny bit but than again Nope not a lil bit ch libtard who worries about what others think or say about & or to me. Take your critique & ride it bear back & hard!
Hell, of a recommendation from UA-cam. Do you have any recommendations for batteries?
Golden Motor will have some new drive kits coming out soon which will include batteries that are 72v 76Ah and capable of 350a peak discharge.
@@CosmicEpiphany Great question! It really depends on your build, but for high-performance setups, I recommend looking into 18650 or 21700 lithium-ion cells configured into a custom pack. Brands like Samsung, LG, Molicel, or Lishen offer solid options. For simpler setups, pre-built packs from companies like Amorge, EM3EV or Grin Technologies are Make sure the battery’s voltage and capacity match the motor and controller for optimal performance. Let me know what kind of build you’re working on, and I can offer more specific advice!
Does it have any built-in mounting points?
@@mstreich you can see the drawing of the motor here. It has face plate mounting. www.ampsprockets.com/shop/golden-motor-gmx-hypertorque-11kw-axial-flux-motor
HOW MUCH DOES IT COST ? (+CONTROLLER?) WHAT VOLTAGE? WHAT WATTAGE? WHAT AMPERAGE?
Hello Mike King here from, Placerville California. Where are you located? and do you sell any of your builds? My friend and I have several golden motor builds we are really interested in the axial flux motors. You’re doing some great work! I have a KTM 390 frame. We are putting in a standard, liquid cooled golden motor 96v set up in.
@@kingmikep2365 Hey Mike, thanks for the kind words! I’m based in Burlington, KY, and while I don’t typically sell my builds, I share a lot of the process and ideas behind them to help others with their projects. That KTM 390 frame with the liquid-cooled 96V Golden Motor setup sounds like an awesome build-I’d love to see how it turns out!
The axial flux motors like the Golden Hypertorque are a big step up in terms of torque and efficiency. If you’re thinking about using one in a future project, let me know-I’d be happy to share my experience with it. Keep me posted on your build-it sounds like a beast in the making!
It looks great, I am building a reverse trike and I think it would work well in it. Could we see what controller you are using with it. Looks like it is a 3 phase. Looks like a cool project.
For this project, I’m using the Accelerated Systems BAC8000 controller, which pairs perfectly with the motor to unlock its full potential, including that 30kW peak power. It’s a solid choice for high-performance builds like yours. I’ll make sure to showcase the controller setup in more detail in a future video. Your reverse trike sounds awesome-can’t wait to see it in action!
Did someone recently put out a popular video, calling a two-in-the-front 'tadpole' trike a "reverse trike"? I've not really heard them called that before, & you're the second commenter on this video, to refer to them, that way!?
Why hide the back side of the motor??
Any idea of the price range? I have been accumulating parts for a reverse trike build and I’d maybe like 2 for front wheel drive
The motors are $1100 and can be purchased from here www.ampsprockets.com/shop/golden-motor-gmx-hypertorque-11kw-axial-flux-motor
@ thanks! That’s very reasonable.
How are you planning to sync them? Bimotor front wheel drive layouts tend to be even harder to control than rear...
@@prophetzarquon I’m imagining something that’s more like a low speed / high torque situation where there is the ability to control each wheel individually. Like a split brake system on dune buggies but with hand levers instead of pedals.
How much does it cost and how much does it weigh? How much power does it produce? What would it be like in a glider for self-launch?
@@michaelbishton9439 The Golden Hypertorque Motor weighs 39 lbs and costs $1,100 (depending on configuration). It’s rated for 11kW continuous power with peaks up to 30kW, delivering incredible torque density and high efficiency.
As for a glider self-launch application, the motor’s compact size and high torque make it an interesting candidate. With the right controller and battery setup, it could provide the necessary thrust while keeping weight manageable. However, you’d need to carefully consider the power-to-weight ratio and endurance required for the glider to ensure it’s a good fit. Let me know if you’re exploring this further-I’d love to hear your thoughts!
@@jalapi1508 If (as google tells me) 11kW converts to 14hp and 30kW converts to 40hp, then it starts to look promising, since some self-launch gliders use the Rotax 447 rated at 40hp @6,500rpm with a reduction gear to drive prop.
A typical gas takeoff is full throttle (6.5k) for ~ 3 minutes, then 5,800 (85%) for ~ 10-15 minutes to climb 2,000-3,000ft above ground to reach thermals. The gas engine or the batteries for the electric motor would need to run an additional 10-15min @ 11kw (55mph cruise speed) as a reserve.
447 Engine with starter = ~ 78lbs.
3gal tank = ~ 20lbs.
Battery = ~10lbs
Prop= ?, but the same weight for both options.
Total = ~ 110 lbs.
How does electric, batteries and controllers compare to that?
@ For the Hypertorque Motor, the motor itself weighs 39 lbs, and the controller, like the BAC8000, adds about 10 lbs. A 6-8kWh battery pack using Molicel P42A cells would weigh roughly 70-90 lbs. However, with solid-state lithium cells or Ampius cells, the weight could drop to 35-45 lbs since these cells weigh about 1/3 to 1/2 the weight of P42A cells. With these lighter options, the total electric system weight could range from 85-95 lbs, coming closer to the Rotax system’s 110 lbs while offering instant torque, no fuel consumption, and reduced maintenance.
@@jalapi1508 Sounds possible. Thanks for your responses. A 3 gallon tank would be ~ 700 cubic inches, or 9"*9"*9". It could still be a space problem. Where (space) to put the batteries effects weight and balance. I'll have to keep studying it.
Sounds like that would be great for hill climbing
Price?
@@kingrutse3278 www.ampsprockets.com/shop/golden-motor-gmx-hypertorque-11kw-axial-flux-motor
Put it in a stark varg frame, there are a couple of other UA-camrs that have motor swapped the stark varg motor into other things, maybe you can get a frame from one of them
Would it be worth it ?
This motor is capable of 30kw at its peak which is around 40 horsepower vs the vargs 80hp.
Complete waste of money and time.
Wait, Golden Motors?! They're right here in Colorado! An actual US product developed & made in the US???
its all chinese brother.
@@prophetzarquon Designed in the USA. Manufactured in China with USA inspired quality standards.
Awesome
it looks like a great motorcycle motor. The voltage is a little lower than I would like to see on a modern motor. I expect +100VDC.
Looking at the linked page I find it a stretch saying it will out perform a ME1507. The ME1507 is +44kW peak compared to this smaller 28kW peak. Though this motor still will be fun in a quad. Knowing from my past ME1507 quad build (and I am sure you saw this with yours) I suggest gearing it lower. I tried many gears but most importantly I had to upgrade to a 530 (#50) chain, the 420 chain was just too small and I was going through sprockets like crazy. I ended with a 47 tooth rear and a 11 tooth front. I have independent rear suspension so I am able to fit a bigger rear sprocket and not sacrifice clearance. Maybe consider adding a jack shaft to better dial in the gearing. I used a jack shaft in my mini bike build and made all the difference.
I am very curious to see the final result. Keep up the good work!
Thanks for the detailed feedback and suggestions! You’re absolutely right that the ME1507 has a higher peak power at 44kW, but in my experience, the Hypertorque Motor outperforms it in torque delivery, even without additional gear reduction, which has been a game-changer in my quad builds.
As for voltage, this motor is optimized for slightly lower voltages, but it makes up for it with its high torque density and efficiency, especially in applications where torque is prioritized over speed. For this build, I’m running it with an Accelerated Systems BAC8000 controller to maximize its potential.
I hear you on gearing-it’s something I’ll definitely be experimenting with as the build progresses. I’ve had similar experiences with smaller chains and sprockets wearing out quickly, so your advice about upgrading to a 530 chain and dialing in the gearing with a jackshaft is spot-on. I’ll keep this in mind, especially as I finalize the drivetrain setup.
Thanks for sharing your insight-it’s always great to hear from others working on similar projects. I’ll be sure to share updates as the build comes together!
@@jalapi1508I see what you are saying. Going with a lighter quad and a smaller motor you more than likely outperform my heavier 500 lb quad with ME1507 with a 11+kWh pack ... though at a cost of distance and ability to climb steep hills. While A smaller lighter quad will be more agile on a track. I think that is how it goes anyways. 🤷♂️
My comment about the voltage was made in hopes that putting that bug in your ear may eventuall be repeated to Golden Motor 😉 but I suppose I may need to convince you. Remind them there is no down side to higher voltage. Remind them that HP is from voltage while even though current is related to torque and is nice but that HP can alway create torque, not the other way around.
In the end it's all about the HP 💪
For others out there that want to better understand the relationship of HP and torque the UA-camr Engineering Explained has a great video about this. Though his video is about an ICE the principal is still the same.
ua-cam.com/video/u-MH4sf5xkY/v-deo.html
I agree; even ebike motors like the Bafang m620 run better + more efficiently at higher voltages than low.
Plus, batteries that can produce wall power voltages at nominal charge, are a great emergency supply to have.
More ≥110V EMotos, please!
this is great but it needs to be a hub motor
Pode dar o nome que quiser, mas isso é um motor brushelles inronner.
Use it to replace the engine on an outboard boat motor.
That's a very continuous load, often running flat out near max output for extended periods... For that you want a high continuous rating, rather than a high peak rating, even assuming you could provide plenty of cooling.
That's a great idea! I'm sure with some creative engineering it could be done.
I designed a motor that I believe is very similar if not the same as that one, I know how it works and creates doubt torque.
I emailed 5 motor companies in the UK telling them about my design and that I need a manufacturer to get them made. None of them replied now all of them are missing out on huge profits, these motor are the future.
These motors can be made half the size of an ebike motors yet they'll put out the same the torque of standard motors, extra power, less weight = more speed.
AND a very efficient electric motor will be a very efficient electric generator 😉👍🏼
Can it be mounted to a surron light bee? what kind of electric dirt bike did you use for your project? It looked good!
cannot be mounted to light bee size is much bigger
Thre engine is allright... now if you had a battery with same energy density as gas, which could be charged in five minutes, and inexpensive to manufacture with cheap and easy to recycle materials, you'll be all set.
11kw is not alot. I run 11kw on my electro and co extreme kit on my tiny razor electric bike.
It's probably rated for 11kW continuous and can burst a lot more, the website mentions 72v 350a which would be 25,200w which would make since for a 11kW continuous rated motor.
30kW peak. The 11kW rating is for continuous. It may be capable of even more with proper testing and making use of the liquid cooling.
Rated and actual output are very different
@@jameshatton4211That razor would be going like 75 mph minimum with 11kw actual.
Remember
Torque = Acceleration and fun
HP = Speed
Added bonus of high torque is a simplified gear ratio usually achieved with a simple chain and sprockets.
It can fix in a small car.like Tata nano in India.
@@acprakash5339 absolutely!
My 78 suzuki
I want to make an electric World War II Welbike
Double the torque - WOW!!
But what people actually do is use a reduction gearbox and get ten times the torque!!
Which means you use a motor that is a tenth the weight along with a single speed reduction gearbox - which in total is a third the weight of you new motor
@@duncancairncross I’m curious what this gearbox motor looks like that has 10:1 gear reduction at 1/3 of the weight. Can you share a link?
@@jalapi1508 The gearboxes used in all production EVs - they enable a 40kg motor with a 20kg gear reduction to do the same as a 400kg direct drive motor - or if this motor has twice the torque a 200kg motor
60 kg instead of 200 kg - about a third of the weight
@@duncancairncross can you show an example?
@@duncancairncross Great point about reduction gearboxes! They’re excellent for increasing torque with smaller motors, but the Hypertorque Motor delivers high torque density directly, offering key advantages in efficiency, simplicity, and extended durability. Without the need for a gearbox, you avoid the maintenance, lubrication, and wear issues that gears introduce over time. This makes it ideal for lightweight builds that prioritize reliability and straightforward operation. I’d love to hear more about how you’ve used reduction systems in your projects!
@@jalapi1508 A single speed reduction gear is simple and if properly designed will last for a very very long time
The basic physics means that Torque is roughly (very roughly) proportional to weight - an efficient layout uses a high rpm and reduction
As far as lightweight builds are concerned this goes to an extreme with E-Bikes where they are now starting to use Harmonic gearboxes!! - look them up they are amazing!
China please make a copy paste of this machine at a cheap price