Yep, and this was the main contribution from Norway during WW2. So many merchant fleet sailors where lost from a huge number of nations (a ton of them from Norway) trying to supply the UK, the Soviet Union and the troops at various theatres of war. Yet all people seem to talk about is the battle ships, airplanes, tanks and troops on the ground...
When a plumber comes and fixes my sink, generally it's him that i give the praise to. Not the girl in the office who took the call and set up the meet or the guys in the warehhouse who shipped my supplys. People see what is in front of them. No one is taking anywhing anyway from our Merchant fleets, iF anything their bravery is even higher because they weren't getting the pat on the back like the soldier did. They were SELFLESSLY BRAVE beyond words.
The cargo ships of world wars will always be the true heros. Not the biggest battleships and the most decorated carriers. But the cargo ships and the merchant navies.
Its often overlooked the scale of lend lease to the USSR. 19,000 planes, 22,000 tanks and 100,000 6x6 Army trucks. Then there are all the war materials, such as ammo brass ( USSR had priority over even the USN) railway line, chemical and rubber tyre plant, avgas and it goes on. Liberty ships could sail straight past Japan unmolested to Vladivostok as they sailed under soviet flags and took advantage of the peace treaty between Imperial Japan and the USSR. As such vast supplies were pumped into the USSR at a critical stage of WW2. The 6x6 Army trucks were delivered overland thru Iran.
I don't think the tank and planes are quite right, more like 8000 tanks, 30,000 and 5000 planes, but everything else you've said is true, along with Britain's convoys to Murmansk and archangel, the Russians had to move their entire industry east, and took heavy losses in 1941, so such supplies were nessiasary to keep the soviets fighting and the main German force east, rather than west.
@@brandenburgquentinthe3rd532 some soviet industry moved east in the evacuation.......but gigantic industrial assets had already been built in the far east in the 1930's.........American engineers designed and directed construction of the gigantic Magnitorsk steel works ( a copy of the USA's largest steel plant at Gary Indiana) and the factory called Ural Vagon Zavod which was in fact an enormous tank factory later known as "Tank-o-grad". Dupont also built for the Soviets a nitric acid plant with a capacity of 10,000 tons per day, which only has a munitions application (specifically with US state department approval). The Soviets were allowed to purchase the cutting edge C-47 transport plane, and had American expertise on railroads,cement plants and other industrial improvements.
@@brandenburgquentinthe3rd532 not counting millions of tons of railway line,munitions brass ( they had priority over the US Navy) and Avgas in large quantities. KGB colonel Kortikov was in the USA directing lend lease, had the direct number of Harry Hopkins and never hesitated in calling Hopkins to crush any resistance to Soviet demands.
I want to take a moment to thank the developers of World of Warships. They did not have to make these videos, but they shed light on as they say it--The ships that deserve to be called Naval Legends.
from what I have read previously, alot of these were sold after WW II. alot of cheap transport ships for sale probably helped rebuild global trade after the war.
'The deformation of Libertys' yes they split in two, the welds gave way in servere weather. The skipper of the Edward Bellemy was caught in a cyclone above New Guinea and told me he just slowed down to ease the pounding. It was well known that they could be damaged in rough weather.
In my opinion...Instead of Read oak Victory, It is better to have Meredith Victory as a ship museum. Given to its historically story Meredith had. Sadly It was scrapped a long time ago.
No you are not the only one. I think that they are beautiful pieces of mechanical art. There's just something about old steamships that modern ships today don't have. I've always wanted to go see the SS Jeremiah O'Brien but someday I will 👍👍.
I live about 30mins away. Worth the trip. And if you get there and she's closed for the day, she's moored at a Public Shore (just like the USS Hornet in Alameda) that's part of the Rosie the Riveter NHP so you can still walk around and take pics.
another interesting informative vid by WG, it makes paying you guys for Premium acc and vehicles etc seem like I'm contributing to the public good. Great to see WG putting resources into these things.
9:10 14,000 refugees and the vessel's carrying capacity was seriously exceeded and could have capsized at any moment. Seemed odd to me so I did a little quick math; figuring 120lbs for the avg Korean of the time (and children weighing far less), 14K people = 840 tons. The Victory ships were rated to carry 10,850 tons, or nearly 13 times that weight. Maybe if the ship was empty and all of them were on the deck? Seems off...
I'd bet it's because the people would have to be on deck and in habitable areas, rather than being stuffed entirely into the holds like bulk cargo. Plus people are bulkier (i.e. more space for a given weight) and require more space than, say, pallets of ammunition or canned food.
That was my guess until I went further and read about it, although how they would all fit on the deck eluded me as well. SS Meredith Victory: "All through the night of December 22-23, using booms and makeshift elevators, Captain LaRue’s crew filled the five cargo holds and the entire main deck with more than 14,000 civilians...". I found no mention at all about instability, danger of capsizing, etc. This includes crew accounts. They were packed in like sardines and virtually unable to move, but the ship was in fact quite stable. The only way in which its capacity was exceeded is that it was only designed to accommodate 12 passengers.
Objectively, battle stars and efficiency E's and the various other awards a ship is awarded... Much easier to award the ship than it is the entire crew individually, right? That, and it creates a sort of legacy and expectation for the incoming new crews. These are the standards that the crew of this ship are expected to uphold, etc.
6:55, cuba victory, something here seems wrong, usa making a ship whith that name is something to make a whole 5 hour long documentary on. No wonder why cuba necver built the fidel castro class of batleship
At the time, Cuba wasn't yet a Communist country, and joined in the Western Allies. Castro and his Soviet backers didn't take over until the end of the 1950s, over 10 years after WW2 was over.
Imagine putting this next to USS Iowa and saying Red Oak Iowa People who know the town may get the joke But battleship Iowa has the state name Red Oak Victory has the city name
The Loyal Knight Those supplies weren't free, or didn't you know that? The US still has quite a few bases in the UK, and the USSR was supposed to pay in bases, or gold, but defaulted on the payments post WW2.
@@shashankkolhe4111, it doesn't matter. Those were American designed and built ships and if World of Warships Official Channel is going to talk about them then they should use the system under which they were constructed.
never understatement the power of the merchant fleet. let us not forget that you can't fight wars without food, ammo and fuel. am i right?
You all can keep you big gun battleships, long ranging cruisers and speedy destroyers. Give me a cargo ship and tools and I will build my own fleet.
“An Army marches on its stomach”
-Napoleon
Yep, and this was the main contribution from Norway during WW2.
So many merchant fleet sailors where lost from a huge number of nations (a ton of them from Norway) trying to supply the UK, the Soviet Union and the troops at various theatres of war.
Yet all people seem to talk about is the battle ships, airplanes, tanks and troops on the ground...
When a plumber comes and fixes my sink, generally it's him that i give the praise to. Not the girl in the office who took the call and set up the meet or the guys in the warehhouse who shipped my supplys. People see what is in front of them. No one is taking anywhing anyway from our Merchant fleets, iF anything their bravery is even higher because they weren't getting the pat on the back like the soldier did. They were SELFLESSLY BRAVE beyond words.
Hell yes
The cargo ships of world wars will always be the true heros. Not the biggest battleships and the most decorated carriers. But the cargo ships and the merchant navies.
Sometimes the most important ship is the one with the mail, TP, and rations. :)
Well said sir. 👍👍
cargo ships are the workhorses of the sea, without em the rest of the navy wouldn't be the quality it is and was
Merchant marines
Its often overlooked the scale of lend lease to the USSR. 19,000 planes, 22,000 tanks and 100,000 6x6 Army trucks. Then there are all the war materials, such as ammo brass ( USSR had priority over even the USN) railway line, chemical and rubber tyre plant, avgas and it goes on. Liberty ships could sail straight past Japan unmolested to Vladivostok as they sailed under soviet flags and took advantage of the peace treaty between Imperial Japan and the USSR. As such vast supplies were pumped into the USSR at a critical stage of WW2. The 6x6 Army trucks were delivered overland thru Iran.
I don't think the tank and planes are quite right, more like 8000 tanks, 30,000 and 5000 planes, but everything else you've said is true, along with Britain's convoys to Murmansk and archangel, the Russians had to move their entire industry east, and took heavy losses in 1941, so such supplies were nessiasary to keep the soviets fighting and the main German force east, rather than west.
@@brandenburgquentinthe3rd532 some soviet industry moved east in the evacuation.......but gigantic industrial assets had already been built in the far east in the 1930's.........American engineers designed and directed construction of the gigantic Magnitorsk steel works ( a copy of the USA's largest steel plant at Gary Indiana) and the factory called Ural Vagon Zavod which was in fact an enormous tank factory later known as "Tank-o-grad". Dupont also built for the Soviets a nitric acid plant with a capacity of 10,000 tons per day, which only has a munitions application (specifically with US state department approval). The Soviets were allowed to purchase the cutting edge C-47 transport plane, and had American expertise on railroads,cement plants and other industrial improvements.
@@brandenburgquentinthe3rd532 not counting millions of tons of railway line,munitions brass ( they had priority over the US Navy) and Avgas in large quantities. KGB colonel Kortikov was in the USA directing lend lease, had the direct number of Harry Hopkins and never hesitated in calling Hopkins to crush any resistance to Soviet demands.
Yes! Hardly anyone thinks of Logistical Supply & Support. Soldiers need STUFF! Thanks for another great documentary
The SS Red Oak Victory is moored in the shipyard in which she was built, the former Kaiser shipyard in Richmond, CA.
probably the most important ship design in WW2
That would be the liberty class of cargo ships, the predecessor to the victory class shown here
"Bring Victory in her Cargo holds" All i get are flags v.v
Battleship Mutsu so true
At least your third turret wont blow up with anti deto flag
>_>
So what? Do you really think WG will give you Doubloon and Prem ship..., etc like candy? I don't think so.
Pulls an entire ship
I love this series.
What a heroic and magnificent type of Navy vessel.
I want to take a moment to thank the developers of World of Warships. They did not have to make these videos, but they shed light on as they say it--The ships that deserve to be called Naval Legends.
Fantastic. I very much appreciate this.
8:24
It's the Enterprise!
No it's not it's the USS Lexington
Wait..... It is
So it is!
Yes it is!
I'm pretty sure that's yorktown
I just toured the SS American Victory in Tampa. I even did a comparison video. Nice job Nicholas.
maxsmodels my uncle is the president of it
from what I have read previously, alot of these were sold after WW II.
alot of cheap transport ships for sale probably helped rebuild global trade after the war.
Outstanding from Red Oak Iowa
I remember whenever we would go visit my grandparents, we would drive past a mothball of Victor's
That ship is the container ship in legends how cool is that
'The deformation of Libertys' yes they split in two, the welds gave way in servere weather. The skipper of the Edward Bellemy was caught in a cyclone above New Guinea and told me he just slowed down to ease the pounding. It was well known that they could be damaged in rough weather.
Always remember the Merchant Seamen who lost their lives in Ww2
Wow! Modular construction. 😮
This is the ship where the containers are holded before you open them in world of warships so cool!
Do DD 214 the most beloved ship in the Navy
In my opinion...Instead of Read oak Victory, It is better to have Meredith Victory as a ship museum. Given to its historically story Meredith had. Sadly It was scrapped a long time ago.
"Victory is ours!"
Amateurs discuss Tactics, Professionals discuss Logistics.
yeah, commanding officer of logistics and medic in Arma 3 unit
(fuck the tactics dudes they dont know how to do shit)
Exactly.
Amazing, been waiting a long time for this.
Me too. I live about 1/2hr up I-80 from the Red Oak Victory.
still waiting for the episode on the Jeremiah O'Brien, one of the last Liberty Ships that still sails
WG is only doing Legends for ships actually in the game (playable or not).
Isn't this the ship that you collect the in-game containers on?
Yes, it is.
I'm I the only one who thinks these ships look beautiful?
No you are not the only one. I think that they are beautiful pieces of mechanical art. There's just something about old steamships that modern ships today don't have. I've always wanted to go see the SS Jeremiah O'Brien but someday I will 👍👍.
Enjoyable, and an excuse to take a trip up the California coast :)
I live about 30mins away. Worth the trip. And if you get there and she's closed for the day, she's moored at a Public Shore (just like the USS Hornet in Alameda) that's part of the Rosie the Riveter NHP so you can still walk around and take pics.
There's one in the LA port not far from the USS Iowa
So we all know about the liberty ships but there's almost nothing on the victory class
Tier 8 prem?
Tier 10
No
Papa Tango yes
Maybe it can have some sort of heal ability. I don’t know how 800m range 20mm gums will work though 😂👌
LMAO
Obedience brings victory, and victory is life!
Ah... another Putin / Trump supporter, I see...
@@1slotmech lol no Mr. Partisan Politic minion. That quote above, is from Star Trek Deep Space Nine by the Dominion Jem'hadar soldiers.
@@1slotmech rent free
Love these vids WG. Keep 'em coming!
I wonder what a modern incarnation of the Victory ships would look like.
9:50
SS Lane Victory: 7,010+1.
SS Meredith Victory: 14,000+5.
Good you fixed the run time!
Huh?
8:24 Damn....sturdy bow yup that's a Yorktown class"USS enterprise" Such a shame they have to scrap her...😭😭
Reminds me of a Liberty class near my home
Possibly because it's an nearly identical ship.
Mike P because it's the same kind. Liberty Transport ship
Actually it's not. It's a Victory, the class that followed the Liberty class.
Actually it's not. It's a Victory, the class that followed the Liberty class.
none of your business the two classes are so close to each other in design and function
Never knew about these.
Need an episode for liberty ships now!!!
another interesting informative vid by WG, it makes paying you guys for Premium acc and vehicles etc seem like I'm contributing to the public good. Great to see WG putting resources into these things.
9:10 14,000 refugees and the vessel's carrying capacity was seriously exceeded and could have capsized at any moment. Seemed odd to me so I did a little quick math; figuring 120lbs for the avg Korean of the time (and children weighing far less), 14K people = 840 tons. The Victory ships were rated to carry 10,850 tons, or nearly 13 times that weight. Maybe if the ship was empty and all of them were on the deck? Seems off...
I'd bet it's because the people would have to be on deck and in habitable areas, rather than being stuffed entirely into the holds like bulk cargo. Plus people are bulkier (i.e. more space for a given weight) and require more space than, say, pallets of ammunition or canned food.
That was my guess until I went further and read about it, although how they would all fit on the deck eluded me as well. SS Meredith Victory: "All through the night of December 22-23, using booms and makeshift elevators, Captain LaRue’s crew filled the five cargo holds and the entire main deck with more than 14,000 civilians...". I found no mention at all about instability, danger of capsizing, etc. This includes crew accounts. They were packed in like sardines and virtually unable to move, but the ship was in fact quite stable. The only way in which its capacity was exceeded is that it was only designed to accommodate 12 passengers.
Do USS Laffey DD 724 please.
Don't forget the legendary Liberty ship John Brown!
Curious, not a single Victory ship was named after Texas A&M University, even though they were a major contributor to WW2. Does anyone know why?
They should talk about the original Liberty class ships, along with Bismarck.
Only about 30 minutes away is the SS Jeremiah O’Biren
She’s extremely fun.... you get to man a 2 inch gun
Hey when will you guys put merchant ships
I always thought it would be cool to turn one of these old liberty or victory class ships into a yacht too bad there aren't many left
And too historically valuable to get away with now.
Can we have a Coop beach landing defence mission?
Hey! I’ve seen this one! It’s in legends!
Add it alongside with ss liberty as cruiser class
lmao someone screwed up the editing at 11:58
wonderin if I was only one to catch that.. lol
Imagine this being added in WoWs
This seems to be the T-34 of ships!
Our favourite container ship 😂
That poor ship needs some tlc in places
U should add these ships as healing ships weak armour moderate as defense no 1-2 main or secondary high concealment
Ok now add this to game so we can protect it.
Like add a new gamemode where we can play like random but we need to keep our escorted transports safe
Love watching these. I still laugh every time I hear awards and medals given to inanimate objects like ships and other things.
Objectively, battle stars and efficiency E's and the various other awards a ship is awarded... Much easier to award the ship than it is the entire crew individually, right? That, and it creates a sort of legacy and expectation for the incoming new crews. These are the standards that the crew of this ship are expected to uphold, etc.
6:55, cuba victory, something here seems wrong, usa making a ship whith that name is something to make a whole 5 hour long documentary on. No wonder why cuba necver built the fidel castro class of batleship
At the time, Cuba wasn't yet a Communist country, and joined in the Western Allies. Castro and his Soviet backers didn't take over until the end of the 1950s, over 10 years after WW2 was over.
please do IJN NAGATO the ijns second flag ship.
A new tier II auxiliary cruiser
Imagine putting this next to USS Iowa and saying Red Oak Iowa
People who know the town may get the joke
But battleship Iowa has the state name
Red Oak Victory has the city name
Does someone know the backgroundmusic during the specifications?
r/youhadastroke
The crate ship herself. Red oak victory
Your welcome Europe....
You’re welcome -USSR- Russia & England for the supplies
The Loyal Knight
Those supplies weren't free, or didn't you know that?
The US still has quite a few bases in the UK, and the USSR was supposed to pay in bases, or gold, but defaulted on the payments post WW2.
New premium Ship????
Randhyka Elga Hehe, armed whit two light guns and a few aa autocanons...
Based on a design taken from Sunderland ship building in England
Looks like it was a good design.
Do the lst’s next!
I wonder how a modern victory ship would look like today.
I'm from Red Oak, IA.
They should restore that ship
9:50it was the lane victory not the red oak lol
Should do one on the SS Jeremiah O'Brien
Or the SS John W. Brown.
The JO'B isn't in the game though. She's moored in SF at Fisherman's Wharf (across the Bay from the Red Oak Victory).
where are the liberty ships
Cargo capacity: a shit tonne of RNG and super containers with signals in
Hey look, this vercion is longer
What about SS.American Victory?
She's not in the game.
Ah, so there is a mistake in the first video
How i get the game
Everyone played a part.
Why aren't there any submarine legends
No subs in the game.
They were also known for sinking easily.
HTMS Meaklong HTMS Thonburi HTMS Nakha and HTMS Pinklao
wait april fools day isnt here yet
ITS THE THE CHIEFTAIN
Hey it's tank jesus
We want World of warships on Xbox and PS4 please
Be interesting how they re-map controls onto controllers for that one.
great another premium ship just what we need... oh wait
Create Transpot ship that it can heal neer by ships
Also im the player GreenSeaCaptain
Pls make it a t1 premium please. I'd like it very much.😀😀😀
551? seriously?
부산이 아니라 흥남아닌가
not busan it is hungnam
Titanic on steroids
保管こんな船迄日本は三笠だけ
Donald Trump approved these ships, so much victory.
First :)
If you're describing AMERICAN vessels, use the AMERICAN system, NOT metrics! A HUGE DISLIKE for that arrogant mistake!
Its for international audience
@@shashankkolhe4111, it doesn't matter. Those were American designed and built ships and if World of Warships Official Channel
is going to talk about them then they should use the system under which they were constructed.
cant wiat intill War Thundar sea battles come... WG makes notign but hacked infested bullshit LUCK game
Why? Because you can't play it worth crap?