Yup had an opportunity to buy an s14 that ran and drove with a manual for 1k. The interior needed some work but was all there. Nowadays their prices reached not even worth it level and don't even bother look at them. Thankfully manage to score my affordable childhood dream car (Z32 2+2) for under 1k a few years ago before their prices started to creep.
Facts, someone that went to my high school a year or two ahead of me owned an S13 in high school. I just KNOW he got that thing at what we would now call cheap AF
I’m importing my sprinter trueno (not ae86) for the same reason. Soon they’ll catch on to it because of the silver/black/red top. There was no hype around them because they didn’t think fwd is cool. So they younger hype/clout boys haven’t caught on to it, only the car models with the rb/2jz (which are already being bought up for a high price). It’ll be all over for 4age when they catch a taste of the ITB sound
Especially the USDM SR-5 models with the 4AC that had around 87 horse, my dad bought his back on 95 for 2000$ and now I see SR5s selling for five times that
@@shm-62u30 Ain't those basically 85s? Worth noting 85s are ALSO getting pricy, too. Let's hope the KP61 Starlet (the last RWD Starlet generation) stays under the radar, though. Most 70s and 80s Japanese cars tend to do that if they aren't an 86, Fairlady Z, or Skyline.
Nah, the AE86 sure might have got a price increase because of Initial D popularity but relatively speaking, most JDM clout chasers don't care about it at all.
That happened with a lot of cars from F&F. Dodge Chargers cost around 100.000-200.000€ here in germany. They mostly are in mint condition then and some had frame-off restorations, but still this is a lot. Other Muscle cars from that time in good condition cost around 20-40.000.
Tuner car culture is based on price; you used to be able to find a 240 or something for $500 from an old lady; now you’re watching them sell for $5,000 full of rust
What truly does hurt me about the S bodies is how kids nowadays take them cut the body and fenders just to make a “drift missile” that ends up wrecked and in a junkyard or it ends up on marketplace for 10K with plastic fenders etc like smh.
That's why I take major issue with the whistling deisel thing. "Let's just trash a classic for views, no one will care" It's depressing. Maybe me and my brother can save one of these cars from the scrap heap and restore it to glory.
@@christopherlowery855he does what he does SPECIFICALLY because people care. Every video he makes sitrs some level of controversy which nets him big earnings. Its actually quite genius how he monitized breaking stuff without purpose.
The saddest part is how this cycle leads to the butchering of every "legendary car" into some colledge kids eBay part, ziptied, mess. Good luck finding an unmodded Skyline or Supra twenty years from now.
Honestly kills me to know that a clean NSX was only 30k max not too long ago. Been obsessing over one lately cause they just seem like awesome cars to drive around in, but seeing prices now for them being 80k+ is so disheartening. Now its another car in the “pipe dream” section
I always remember them being in the $70-$100k range, regardless of when I've looked. Be it 2002, or 2008. I must have missed the one time they were priced reasonably. A shame really. I've always wanted one of those. Maybe I can track down a price trend for them. It would be nice to pick one up for under $40k.
I'm genuinely disgusted by clout boi culture, those mf's just ruined every and any chance of regular people being able to afford a cool car, over-hype them, and always expect too much out of them. The Supras and R34s will never be the same again.
That makes me appreciate the newer versions of these cars like the MK 5 Supra, and the Nissan 400Z, as having the almost same, maybe even more power with a lot less money
@@AnthroGearhead Except a base/Carrera variant of the desirable 911 generations (911, 930, 964, 993) cost 3-4X of the JDM's i happen to like where i live. A basic 964 911 Carrera 2 is around 60K (cheapest aircooled Porsche), meanwhile R32 GT-R is around 50K with 970hp built motor proven with a dynoslip. I wouldn't take a GT-R tho, I'd much prefer a 4-door Sedan one with a CA18i (GXi) or RB20E (GTE) RB20DE (GTS)
@@MrBluePoochyena 993 dont seem to be that expensive unless its the GT2 or the RS, but the Turbo seems cheaper than these, plus 996 and 997 are being forgotten so its good, now im waiting for the 991 and 992 to lose their value
@savvathornnmysteriam9867 then the German cars are going to get infected - E46 BMWs will be slammed to the ground, given hideous camber, and treated like a Silvia (as if they aren't already).
@@NO-2019 A lot of the mainstream Japanese icons get similar reputations as modern supercars and hypercars in terms of how much elementary schoolers will glaze them.
I absolutely agree that the clout has damaged the reputation and ability to obtain these cars. It does make me sad because as much as I would want a Skyline or Silvia I just want a car I can be proud of taking care of and working on to be in my vision. On top of that what's also unfortunate is that depending on the car the parts can be so expensive so while some may have spent so much to get the car initially they'll have to spend a good chunk more for parts. Good video though and happy you touched up on this topic.🤟
Nothing has been damaged about these cars. The only damaged thing is the mindset that videos like this breed. You're all in your head over a clout chasing video on the internet that's talking bad about great cars.
I feel like I can't admit to loving the RX-7 and Skyline GTRs because of their reputation. They are genuinely beautiful pieces of engineering that I'll never be able to own now.
You can still get RX7s for somewhere in the 20ks, prices jumped but not to where it’s impossible EDIT - just checked seems they jumped A LOT over the last 2 years. Good luck
I'm so glad I like the FC more, because while they're not cheap, they only go for like 1/5 of FD prices, usually around 10k under and mostly stock. I hope I don't end up regretting saying this...
As someone who owns both an FC and an FD, I also like the FC more. It looks better, its less flimsy, and I don't bang my elbow on the window every time I drive it.
I always wanted a R32 skyline since I played Gran Turismo 1 when I was a little kid in the late 90's. So I bought a bone stock R32 GTS-T for 7500 USD in the UK in 2019 and it lived up to my expectations. Spent so much money restoring/repairing it that people around me think i'm stupid, but that car means a lot to me. 😅
This subject is the whole reason I moved on from jdm to American muscle, I couldn't stand the fact that you can't buy these cars anymore for cheap unless they were heavily modded and ruined, and if they are stock they're extremely expensive. Make fun of me all you want for my boomer car, but that's just where the value is.
Another JDM car that I think has been ruined by clout culture is 350Z (/G35). You see these cars on street takeovers, and honestly it kinda gave the G35/350Z a bad rep, in my opinion G35/350Z is pretty good cars, but their reputation has been ruined by street takeovers, it also effect other cars too like Dodge Challenger and Charger because you see these cars on street takeovers too
@@clonecommandermike332It's why I can't bring myself to buy one. It's a nice looking car. I just can't bring myself to be associated with the culture.
If it wasn’t really for clout, these cars wouldn’t suffer from inflation. I love JDM cars, especially the Silvias, but not to the point I overly worship them. Of course, clout is everywhere no matter where you go. As long as something exists, theres always gonna be clout around it. It is also kinda disappointing that people think that these cars are already powerful at stock like people thinking Supra has 1k hp stock which I find it hilarious. It is disappointing that there are people who lack education about cars.
Nah the clout came after inflation and just contributed a little more. The clout is a byproduct of the inflation of JDM cars. JDM cars always had some level of clout behind them, was just amplified after the fact. The reason they've gone up so much is simply supply vs demand. When the US market opened up, prices went up. Nothing to do with clout, influencers etc.. Prime example, only 14,000 R33 GTRs were made and only 11,000 R34 GTRs. Imagine 0.01% of the US population who were both wealthy and loved cars wanted a R34 GTR. That's a solid 30,000 people, and that's ignoring the rest of the world. In contrast, a Lamborghini Gallardo - 40,000 units were made.
The story about the car looking cooler in the movie, is exactly why you should be aware that you'll never know what it's truly like until you drive it.
less and less places do test drives. Especially Importers, where they need a deposit or some kind of commitment _since they are shipping it overseas after all_ IMO just don't get "married" to an idea of a car, as it'll never live up to expectations. If I can't test drive a car, I'll never bother looking at it, but obv not everyone has that standard. However, I do believe ppl who have "try before you buy" standard, are less susceptible to clout culture scam buys.
I'm surprised that the SW20 MR2 hasn't made this list. We have guys demanding 10k for rusted out rolling chassis. God forbid you try to get your hands on a hard top turbo.
If your doing a US version, the 1969-1970 Dodge Charger is ABSOLUTELY worth mentioning, they destroyed so many in Dukes of Hazard, they had to search for owners with a helicopter
@@clonecommandermike332 That show is also responsible for people wanting chargers, if it didn't destroy them they wouldn't be nearly as popular as they are now
I'll admit that Im a GTR fan boy but i didnt become one by watching paul walker drift away in f&f, my obsession cam from watching old racing videos. And this is exactly why only the C10 and the R32 are the ones that i actually like. And despite not owning a single one, it emotionally hurts too much when i see one getting trashed or be converted to a 1000hp build
I always loved skylines mostly for their design. For me it is the perfect balance between boxy cars of the 80's and curvy blobs of the 00's. Simillar thing for Silvias, i think they're just beautiful. And bn sports / origin labo style body kits just look amazing on them because unlike modern cars, the corners on the front don't look like they've been cut off for a more "agressive" look. Now the closest thing to a good looking, RWD coupe with a straight 6 that doesn't cost an arm and a leg is an e46 (And even their prices are going up FAST).
This is why I want to get a mid 60s Vista Cruiser for my wagon fix. They're old as dirt so theoretically you could find a clunker with a workable body and good frame for a few grand, it's an Oldsmobile so it's automatically uncool to the clout chasers, and I already have an F85 with the 330 ci V8 so I already know what the fuck I'm doing when fixing it. That is, if I don't find one with a blown up high compression 330, salvage the pistons to put in the F85 (it has the low compression pistons) and drop a stripped down carbureted or Holley EFI 5.3 in it alongside a 4L80E or Turbo 400, whichever would be easier. Probably the THM400, bell housing adapters are probably easier than getting a factory TCM to work with a standalone ECM.
@lsswappedcessna A lot of good options there. Not sure about salvaging pistons. I ended up buying a set for my build. I needed a forged set for a 312hp 1.8L 4cyl running on 93 octane. The engine is good for more power, but the driveline won't handle it. This is my daily, so I've met my power goal. A Holly EFI sounds nice. A lot of tuning potential there. 330ci is a respecable V8. Especially with forced induction. Best of luck. Cbeers
You might not like this but hear me out: Ford Falcon/Mercury Comet/Mustang/Cougar, with the straight six. There are performance parts for the inline sixes, and they’re bulletproof reliable, but the people building them are a minority because most people just swap a V8 in regardless. Falcons and Comets are especially cheap but since they share a platform with the Mustang, you can get modern suspension upgrades to make them handle well and parts support is excellent. Also any old Chevy with the 250 straight six, in Brazil there’s a huge tuner scene for those and they can reliably put out 1000 hp with a turbo and some bolt on parts, but in America those engines are worthless because every boomer wants an LS swap and won’t touch sixes. Also the Chevy Trailblazer inline six is an incredible tuning platform that even makes AWD conversions theoretically easy, but you have to swap that into something else since it only came in mediocre SUVs. The antidote to clout culture is to find something with little to no clout that’s similar enough or shares a platform and make it what you want it to be.
It's crazy, I could've gotten an S2000 for $9k in 2013 but was still working a job in HS. I love all vehicle makes and models now that I'm grown. But now, people just wanna be "different" and think they gotta prove something. Like you said, it's just a car.
This car wasn't really ruined by clout culture but the price increase on first generation broncos is absolitely insane. I know most of it is because of limited production numbers but part of it must be related to the people who worship it.
And kids who only measure cars in "MuH HoRsEpOwEr" will never understand the concept of collectibility. There's a reason why a Toyota 2000GT is a million dollar car despite being slower than a modern base model camry.
to be honest i think the reason or at least part of the reason that the expectations are so high for the GTR is that due to that weird import law Americans didn't get the chance to have GTR's around in great supply and there for the development for the car started later so where as 20 years ago after first watching F&F i could walk out my front door and encounter a person that owned a GTR (I'm Australian) and have a conversation with them about the modifying process. and i had a more educated expectation of what i wanted if i wanted to get one, plus the development for the GTR in Australia is insane, there's shops in the larger city's that for the right price can build you an entire RB engine with little to no factory Nissan parts that can range in horse power from 600-2000 depending on your bank account, i see the same level of development in platforms that are more common in the US, so I don't think its entirely the fault of the fanboy/ clout chase, i think it only a matter of time for the US guys catch of with development and education
My dad could have bought a blown head gasket nsx for about 5k about 2 years after they came out and he thought they were gonna be just another flop mid engine car (like a fiero lol) and didn’t think it was gonna be anything worth a damn, so he passed on it.
@ArbitraryOutcome in the UK they're around 35k-80k GBP, depending on mileage/year. Phase 2 Clios generally sell for 50k+ while Phase 1's (the original deathtraps) are around 35-50k. They only built around 1500 Phase 1's and 1300 Phase 2's if my memory serves me correctly.
Jdm is a strange niche community. Most people interested aren't rich enough to obtain them comfortably. The ones who can afford it will aim for something else that makes more sense. The soul of an affordable japanese sports car is gone. Im glad I got my s2000 for a good deal because the jdm community is a victim of self sabotage. We priced ourselves out of our own community.
Funniest thing is that its a freaking corolla and just because of Initial D it became overhyped. The whole point of initial D is a talented kid doing the best he can with the crappy econo car he has to deliver tofu. Multiple times he complained that the chassis straight up sucked and had its limit and thats why he ends up with the 22b
@@Random_Car_Guyyeah, he even blew the engine mid way lmfao. And even with the new engine which was "racing rated" he still struggled with MR2s , skylines, a kei car and another freaking 86 at the end.
I love my FC to death, but what you said is 100% correct Clout chasers get into rotary cars and either kid themselves into paying for it to keep it alive Or they swap it 🤢 I’m not gonna exclude myself from that, just because I did learn about the car from the internet, however, I’m repairing my FC to drive it as a fun rotary sports car, not a status symbol as a lot of people do. It’s a sad reality we live in nowadays.
Tell me more about this maintenance you're doing. I watched an engine teardown of an RX-8 engine and nearly had a heart attack. Working on that thing looks insane. Apex seal replacement at 100k mi intervals? I'd rather slit my wrist. A rotory looks like way too much trouble to me. I can see why people would LS swap them. The power gain is a bonus. How is your experience with the car?
@@christopherlowery855 I enjoy doing work on cars, so every 100k isn’t that bad personally I also premix so that extends the mileage a bit more The weight and distribution is the real selling point for me, it handles great and because it’s an NA rotary, I don’t have to worry about putting too much throttle down (usually) I’ve removed the engine 4 times now, so I feel like I’m close to pro in that area, it now takes about an hour to go from fully plugged in to in the back of a truck single handedly. Basically what it’s come down to is this: treat it like a normal engine, and it’ll hate you, treat it like a rotary, and it’ll love you back. I’ve owned it since the summer before my junior year of high school and I still love it.
It’s honestly just people not knowing how to do the maintenance that makes everyone swap the rotary. Premix and a few mods just for longevity and you’ll be fine
ill admit, im a skyline fanboy myself kinda sad im basically hopeless of ever getting one, and no i dont expect it to be a freaking lambo like all these clout boys, i just want a punchy cool coupe but im guessing im F'd
I’ve seen several previous R34 owners comments on some videos and all over the internet, all saying anyone who spends over 15 grand for one is a total idiot. Once you get past the nostalgic aspect of it, and you realize you spent more than 50k on a 25 year old car with average speed, you need to look at yourself in the mirror and slowly paint clown makeup on yourself. people sometimes overhype the r34 because of its predecessor, the r32 shredding every other car on the track.
It makes me sad knowing that Silvia’s and skylines that I grew up dreaming about will never be attainable to me cuz of clout and drift tax. I mean I’m a diehard Nissan fanboy but I still learn about the cars and know very well that 20k is way to much for a mediocre sports coupe who’s entire hype is over drifitng and tv shows. Don’t even get me started in the price of skylines…
fortunately you have to be good at riding to not be violently thrown into the pavement and clout bois are not good at anything because they don't truly care and probably account for 20 percent of crashes
Same thing for the JDM KEI car market... I want to get a Suzuki Alto Workz or Daihatsu Mira one day and I'm hoping I can get one before these same people drive up the price of the Kei cars outside of the ABCs (Autozam, Beat, and Cappuccino)
This is why I'm glad I don't really love any of these cars, at least not in the way I love my Evo V. Hell, the only reason that some people in the US even know what it is, is because of AdamLZ. Had my first one back in 2007 and imported one to the US this year. It's the best driving of all these cars you listed IMO and most people don't know what it is so I get ignored mostly and it's great. Hell, you didn't even include it on your "giant collective fever dream" collection. Best car ever.
I have never in my life seen an NSX go for under $40k. I’ve also haven’t seen a good condition S-Chassis go for less than 5-figures since the late 2000s. On another note, it baffles me how many people think that my beloved Skyline GT-Rs are fast (today) stock. I wished F&F never made Brian O’Conner drive an R34 GT-R.
The thing about Brian's GTR though is that it wasn't stock, and it's pretty clear from the movies that none of those cars are stock. Like idk how clout bois could have confused the F&F ten giggilion HP octuple turbo 15 speed manuals for a stock GTR.
They were FAST, stock, in the 90's. Literally held the production track records at Nurburgring. You just don't know what the hell you're talking about, and neither does anyone who watches these dumb videos.
The Nissan Skyline GTR R32 is a motorsport legend that has been nicknamed Godzilla for a reason. Like the BMW E30 M3, the Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 or the Ford Mustang BOSS 429, it is one of the greatest and craziest homologation cars ever made. Among car fans it has always been and will always be popular regardless of clout.
As a JDM fan up until about 10 years ago, it is sad to see what JDM has become these days. They were supposed to be the underdogs which were impressive for their time, but now they're just overrated.
I remember that too, that was the motivation for me to make a fast JDM. To wipe there smug faces with a sleeper JDM and being a underdog.....crazy that times have changed to this.
The issue with skylines are people are importing the 2L NA sedans they are stock slow as fuck even for its time it was a modest car, its not a GTR and they only realize it once they actually have it in their drive, or on the highway being gapped by regular cars
Just a few years ago, when I was in the last years of elementary school, I wanted to buy a MX-5 as my first car. That was only in like 2018 or so. Now it's practically a final car with it's prices.
Fucking thank you Bladed Angel! You're so dead on about the Skyline, it hurts, as all of them got way too mainstream, thus turning it into a meme car of sorts (Blame the Fast and Furious franchise for that).
Glad I grabbed my c5 before the drift tax and got boiz now that the new gens are discovering that the c5 is basically the jdm car you always wanted that can do anything. Which is why everyone steals the engine for their jdm cars 😂
People think that any generation of Skyline should be making over 1000hp are nuts! The R32 I have in mind is going to be bought for the experience of the drive. And I could care about making power on a motor that was perfect, making 600 at the most. It also doesn't help that most of these cars are a former shell of themselves (I.E. Full carbon bodies, widebody kits, stupid "Track Builds," etc.)
R32 is an amazing car. You will not be disappointed. Mine makes 400whp and it handles on rails! 400-600hp is definitely the sweet spot. Only thing that I do not like about it is the stock brakes are ass.
Skyline owner here and I can confirm you are 100% spot on Bladed. But I didn't get mine because of the clout, I got it because it is genuinely my dream car. I could care less about speed and power. I just enjoy driving it.
While not an FD, I bought an FC RX-7 from a junk yard for $800 once. Windshield wipers didn't work, otherwise just needed a battery. Those days are long gone.
Also: I love Skylines. I'm not hiding that i loved it because of NFS and Fast and Furious. But i originally loved it because of its looks. Nothing more.
The R35 is best for it's style and it's V6 engine Good thing Need for speed hot pursuit 2010 has no tuning upgrades but the R35 is in super series please don't get mad at me bladed
Seeing this makes me soo happy to be a Toyota Celica owner and fan. I was lucky in the fact that even as a kid I never really cared about the cars on this list with the exception of the NSX but is was more of a dream car and less of an object of worship. I was the person who fanned over the St165 Celica, EVO's, 300ZX's, galants,and other lesser known or respected cars. Tuner culture is low key dead.
The RX-7 is my favourite car, but I don't love it cause it's fast, I love it because of the sound it makes and its balance (50/50 weight distribution, and how lightweight it is)
I’m 18 years old and I have dreamed about owning an R33 GTR since I was 6 and I first saw Leon’s yellow R33 in F&F 1. Pitifully prices had gone up fast, but my dream still alive and I hope one day I’ll accomplish it no matter what
Remember that there are several Lexus models by came with a non turbo 2jz that you can pick up for cheap right now and mod to perform great. This is going away though because I’ve noticed those cars prices soaring recently too
I feel like the mk 3 supra are still affordable in some places because it isn’t as recognisable, I had a friend bought one for $400 because the owner mistook it for an old celica. So you can still enjoy mk3 supras (for the time being)
It's funny that at this point, the whole argument that muscle cars are more expensive than tuners... Certain muscle cars aside... Falcons, Comets, Darts, Barracudas and other lesser-known cars that carry V8s still carry the same price they did like 10-15 years ago.
As someone who wants JDM cars, this was extremely hard to take in. I do want to pull off the 1000+HP Supra thing. I really do. Not necessarily for the clout, but for something more personal. Hell, I rode shotgun in a Supra 3 years ago and up until that point, I've never been happier. But I don't know if I'll ever get one for myself.
I pity you. I have a best friend who went to the Nuerburgring in a Porsche 911 GT3 RS for a record lap. After this, riding in a Toyota ain’t crap for him. You won’t be sustaining 3 lateral Gs in a Supra.
@@PigMachineSenpai For anything that isn't american, mk4 supras are boats. GTR's, NSX's, and FD's or FC's of the time are much more fun cars to drive as well as most of them being WAYYY cheaper. And I still don't understand why people think 1000hp supras are cool, literally every other guy that owns a mk4 molests it and does that to it.
When it came to Skylines it was specifically Gran Turisimo. I remember seeing in a games mag that it mentioned one of the staff on the game talking about how Nissan's profits blew up from people buying them. Most probably the reason why they let Kazunori Yamauchi design the GTR/R35 (at least in part). However you can place F&F as another influence, everyone knows Brian's silver and blue R34.
And same, bone stock it’s a 14 second car yet stock with an adjustable fuel pressure regulator and wastegate and it’s a 12 second- 11 second on sticky tires.
On the RX-7, there is one thing that is more disgusting than how insanely overpriced they are nowdays, but the fact that first these people will spend 100k+ on one, and then ENGINE SWAP IT, that is literally buying the car just to get rid of the whole point of the car, it'd be like buying a hummer and then shrinking it, buying a lada and making it not garbage, buying a carlton and never driving it past 30 mph, and what's worse is that it's not even people who do it to annoy people, these apes do it because they have so little common decency that they think it's cool!
@@Toyotacorollaaltis-cn9fd MANY buy the car because they think it's fast and mainly know it from doing fast things. My statement is for those with the misconception.
As someone who bought a Second-gen RX-7 off of a Grand Monther, I was blown away by how good it was kept she read the user manual (By that she kept the engine lubricated with oil) with no crazy mods just bone stock Second-gen RX-73S this was an older Japanese lady so that is more than likely the reason it was so well kept. The RX-7 FD's you see for 70 grand were never taken good care of They didn't read the user manual and like the point you bring up, In the video most of them are on their last leg before selling them.
He even put MODERN in all caps. He was not talking about being fast in the 90's, he was talking about being fast in 2023. Also, those skylines were heavily modified, hence being a race car, so they really weren't ever that fast stock.
@@Philip_Michalke These prices aren't indictive of racing pedegree. They're just blown out of proportion because the fanboys will drop more money than the car is worth based on nostalgia.
@@Tornado2409 "The BMW 850csi has the same engine as the McLaren F1!!!" That is pretty much how I see your comment. The RB in a JTCC Skyline would be pretty indistinguishable from a manufactured road going RB.
HOW THE FUCK isn't the AE86 here???? it may be an icon, but it still is an economy car from the 80's, not fast at all by modern standards and is ridiculously expensive
I don't think it was all that quick on arrival, either. It was light, RWD, and got sideways easily, but it also had the aerodynamics of a brick (something I think had way more to do with overall performance than the 130 PS factory engine).
Idk if I'm too young to be talking, but I just like JDM for their style and history. I don't expect any JDM car to be a rocket on day one of owning it, and hopefully people see it like that too one day.
I’m glad South Africa isn’t the only place with way overpriced older cars. Toyotas, BMWs, etc, even the golf mk1 is still selling generally around R 20 000 to R 30 000 and just to put that in perfective on average a working class person will bring home R 25 000 ish ( I’m estimating ) a month, that’s probably before taxes, rent , food etc , it’s just crazy times
Glad I got my 3000gt just in time. Prices have really skyrocketed this year for no reason I can think of… She is old and I have spent five figures prices last year just in repairs. But she never lets me down on long roadtrips, only on grocery shoppings 😅. At some point everything should be fixed right?
No they didn't? I'm in the forum groups for 3/S and they basically have been the same for the past 3-4 years. They crept a little in 2020 during covid but they haven't gone up anymore since then. Also your raising the prices of parts with your comment when we already have a limited supply of them.
@@atlasreserve9111well I live in Europe and they really have gone up quite a bit here (if you can even find one) Not sure about America but I heard in the past you could get a vr4 for 10k; not anymore? But like I said I am really talking about Europe 😊
@@estebanoussehmine5019 that's totally fair, I apologize! I was speaking for America. I suppose your right they could have fluctuate prices somewhere else.
I don't think most people understand that when I say the Supra or R34 is overrated, I don't think they're bad cars; they're actually really cool cars! They're just loved more than they need to be Plus S660 and Pajero Mini Evo are best JDM cars so....
Probably never gonna buy any of these due to scuffed prices but glad I like the less popular generations. I like the S15 just cause of the styling, the R33 also for the styling, a MK3 supra because so grew up playing GT1 (without memory card) where that was the best starter car and I like the lil Dorito easter eggs in the RX8 or the styling of the FC more than the FD
I’ve had a 350z for a couple of months now, absolutely love it and plan on keeping it stock (it’s fast enough standard), people keep asking if I’m going to mod it but always get disappointed when I say no.
Always wanted an r34 gtr but as i got older and saw the prices of my dream cars as a kid skyrocket i realized it wont happen. Then i realized i just like the body shapes of these cars, so i went out and bought a HR34 sedan. Love 4 doors, love the general look of the r34 and this mf has a 2.0l thicc block that i can absuse the fuck out of. Perfect drift car and can put friends in it. dont care about going fast. 300hp is enough so slide this bad boy aroubd, granted it only comes with 215hp at most but im more than happy to do engine mods to get it where i want it to be.
Agree, I imported an ER34 4 door GTT and quite a few people had no idea a 4 door was available, let alone as a turbo. But, I love 4 doors and it was cheap as the clout is not there. @@WordsRely
I bought an RX7 FD when I lived in Japan (2009) for 6k. It had about 60k miles on it, and no maintenance done on the apex seals. The engine blew right as I was getting out of the military. It was a great car though. Super sleek/sexy, and fun to drive. It came with a nice body kit, and quite a bit of modifications. I hope to one day buy one again, and if I win the lottery, maybe get a skyline R34 GTR. For now I'll enjoy driving my 2019 STi weekend warrior
@@Atisdel_Entertainment_Officialdont worry about it, i was born 6 years before you and the market was already garbage by 2018. The big three of jdm cars have been expensive for years
6:27 the best sleeper money can buy is definitely a Ford Falcon with a Barra (turbocharged), a few bits and pieces you’ll be likely to hit 1500hp. In a 4 Door Family sedan that is the counterpart of the Mustang. Who’s needs a GT-R when you can get them cheap. Wait… Ford US won’t make them because they’re better than the Mustang Mach-E SUV 😢
If you do American cars, the first i can think of is the Cadillac CTS-V especially the wagon. Not that it started super cheap, but because its become way more desired than when it came out. Another take: not exactly clout culture, but 2nd Gen Dodge Rams, OBS Chevys, and 7.3 powerstroke fords have inflated to some degree because of youtube i believe. But this could also be because new trucks are expensive luxuries now. Doesnt help that 2009 cash for clunkers killed off 400k trucks
Spot on with the Cash for clunkers truck assessment. You used to be able to get a running 4x4, whether that be a truck, Jeep, Bronco or Blazer, for cheap. Nowadays, anything under 10k is going to be rusted to pieces and have 230k miles on it. Anything halfway decent is going to be 10k< because I kNoW wHaT I gOt! Offroading used to be an easy and fun way to get into cars but now it's too expensive.
The latter for sure. New car buyers moved into the used car market once new cars became impossble to finance. They think $20k for a car is cheap, while used car buyers think $2k for a car is cheap.
bro being a senior in high school in the 2010s must have been awesome for car affordability
had all the cool cars istg
My generation was spoilt for choice, it sucks how quickly the internet ruined car prices 😢
Yup had an opportunity to buy an s14 that ran and drove with a manual for 1k. The interior needed some work but was all there. Nowadays their prices reached not even worth it level and don't even bother look at them.
Thankfully manage to score my affordable childhood dream car (Z32 2+2) for under 1k a few years ago before their prices started to creep.
Imagine buying an okay condition fc rx7 or something with only a part time job over the summer. Must have been the dream.
Facts, someone that went to my high school a year or two ahead of me owned an S13 in high school. I just KNOW he got that thing at what we would now call cheap AF
The automotive equivelant of "I should of bought a house instead of being a 10-year-old in Year 4 back in 2008"
Another honorable mention should have been the AE 86 - it barely has 120 horsepower yet they sell for way more what they are worth.
I’m importing my sprinter trueno (not ae86) for the same reason. Soon they’ll catch on to it because of the silver/black/red top. There was no hype around them because they didn’t think fwd is cool. So they younger hype/clout boys haven’t caught on to it, only the car models with the rb/2jz (which are already being bought up for a high price). It’ll be all over for 4age when they catch a taste of the ITB sound
Especially the USDM SR-5 models with the 4AC that had around 87 horse, my dad bought his back on 95 for 2000$ and now I see SR5s selling for five times that
@@shm-62u30only loser clowns buy those
@@shm-62u30 Ain't those basically 85s? Worth noting 85s are ALSO getting pricy, too.
Let's hope the KP61 Starlet (the last RWD Starlet generation) stays under the radar, though. Most 70s and 80s Japanese cars tend to do that if they aren't an 86, Fairlady Z, or Skyline.
@@ArbitraryOutcome the AE85 was never produced in America and had a SOHC 3A-U engine instead of a 4-AC
I'm surprised the AE86 didnt get mentioned. Just want to say tofu tax is a hell of a drug.
A clean Toyota st16 (Celica of similar years) is 25,000$ for a clean GT4, the older Toyotas are just expensive in general.
Are you, got taxed.
wasn’t ruined, just popularized. Is it a little expensive? Definitely. + its community is better than corny Supra and GTR fanboys.
Nah, the AE86 sure might have got a price increase because of Initial D popularity but relatively speaking, most JDM clout chasers don't care about it at all.
@@miragebangbravern I had one, but u can't get a milf wit it, lol....
Basicly the F&F movies made JDM cars expensive as hell. If these movies weren't made, i think these cars wouldn't be that expensive
is not the movies is the Instagram and tiktok
@@GENYRED These cars wouldn't be popular if not for Fast and Furious, especially the GTR
That happened with a lot of cars from F&F. Dodge Chargers cost around 100.000-200.000€ here in germany. They mostly are in mint condition then and some had frame-off restorations, but still this is a lot. Other Muscle cars from that time in good condition cost around 20-40.000.
@@gunman8452 agree
I agree with you, i absolutely hate supra fanboys but it still cant deny media introduces people into cars
Tuner car culture is based on price; you used to be able to find a 240 or something for $500 from an old lady; now you’re watching them sell for $5,000 full of rust
What truly does hurt me about the S bodies is how kids nowadays take them cut the body and fenders just to make a “drift missile” that ends up wrecked and in a junkyard or it ends up on marketplace for 10K with plastic fenders etc like smh.
too real...😥
I cringe whenever I see an S15 drift car.
That's why I take major issue with the whistling deisel thing. "Let's just trash a classic for views, no one will care" It's depressing.
Maybe me and my brother can save one of these cars from the scrap heap and restore it to glory.
@@Tornado2409for me its the event itself, a complete circus
@@christopherlowery855he does what he does SPECIFICALLY because people care. Every video he makes sitrs some level of controversy which nets him big earnings. Its actually quite genius how he monitized breaking stuff without purpose.
The saddest part is how this cycle leads to the butchering of every "legendary car" into some colledge kids eBay part, ziptied, mess. Good luck finding an unmodded Skyline or Supra twenty years from now.
Honestly kills me to know that a clean NSX was only 30k max not too long ago. Been obsessing over one lately cause they just seem like awesome cars to drive around in, but seeing prices now for them being 80k+ is so disheartening. Now its another car in the “pipe dream” section
Actually they are heading back down from what ive seen, a couple of clean ones just sold on an auction site for 70k and 50k
I always remember them being in the $70-$100k range, regardless of when I've looked. Be it 2002, or 2008. I must have missed the one time they were priced reasonably. A shame really. I've always wanted one of those. Maybe I can track down a price trend for them. It would be nice to pick one up for under $40k.
I mean to get a clean NSX for 30k, that was over 10 years ago. I remember checking prices in 2015 and even back then a nice one was around 50-60k.
@othnielmcfarlane3612 thank God the nsx deserves to be loved by true enthusiasts not these clout demons
My neighbor has one of those nsx, he has been having it for 21years, it sounds beautiful, he’s now an old Japanese man
I'm genuinely disgusted by clout boi culture, those mf's just
ruined every and any chance of regular people being able to
afford a cool car, over-hype them, and always expect too much
out of them. The Supras and R34s will never be the same again.
buy a Porsche 911 Turbo then, they are costing lesser than these trash JDMs
Get ya money up bro
That makes me appreciate the newer versions of these cars like the MK 5 Supra, and the Nissan 400Z, as having the almost same, maybe even more power with a lot less money
@@AnthroGearhead Except a base/Carrera variant of the desirable 911 generations (911, 930, 964, 993) cost 3-4X of the JDM's i happen to like where i live. A basic 964 911 Carrera 2 is around 60K (cheapest aircooled Porsche), meanwhile R32 GT-R is around 50K with 970hp built motor proven with a dynoslip. I wouldn't take a GT-R tho, I'd much prefer a 4-door Sedan one with a CA18i (GXi) or RB20E (GTE) RB20DE (GTS)
@@MrBluePoochyena 993 dont seem to be that expensive unless its the GT2 or the RS, but the Turbo seems cheaper than these, plus 996 and 997 are being forgotten so its good, now im waiting for the 991 and 992 to lose their value
Tbh, almost all JDM cars were ruined
Like fr
Back in the day JDM cars were taken seriously, peak of tuning but nowadays people have made JDM like as a "childish category" in car culture
@@NO-2019 let's just hope the childish category thing drops the prices back down... Fingers crossed
@savvathornnmysteriam9867 then the German cars are going to get infected - E46 BMWs will be slammed to the ground, given hideous camber, and treated like a Silvia (as if they aren't already).
@@NO-2019 A lot of the mainstream Japanese icons get similar reputations as modern supercars and hypercars in terms of how much elementary schoolers will glaze them.
I absolutely agree that the clout has damaged the reputation and ability to obtain these cars. It does make me sad because as much as I would want a Skyline or Silvia I just want a car I can be proud of taking care of and working on to be in my vision. On top of that what's also unfortunate is that depending on the car the parts can be so expensive so while some may have spent so much to get the car initially they'll have to spend a good chunk more for parts. Good video though and happy you touched up on this topic.🤟
Nothing has been damaged about these cars. The only damaged thing is the mindset that videos like this breed. You're all in your head over a clout chasing video on the internet that's talking bad about great cars.
I feel like I can't admit to loving the RX-7 and Skyline GTRs because of their reputation. They are genuinely beautiful pieces of engineering that I'll never be able to own now.
For me, i only admire their motorsports pedigree
"I love the RX7 so much that I drop and LS in it!"
You can still get RX7s for somewhere in the 20ks, prices jumped but not to where it’s impossible
EDIT - just checked seems they jumped A LOT over the last 2 years. Good luck
@@clintonef9found an rx7 back in 2016, it was around 14k AUD back then. Right now, even a base rx7 costs at 70k AUD
@@theblacknothing Rob Dahm is an exceptional example, which he made a rotary engine powerful, and eneded up slammed in x4 of them.
I'm so glad I like the FC more, because while they're not cheap, they only go for like 1/5 of FD prices, usually around 10k under and mostly stock.
I hope I don't end up regretting saying this...
Fc's are work that much?? fuck I could get them all day long for $600 like 4 years ago. ppl are crazy.
Yeah FC were like 2000 bucks for a clean one but tbh 10000 while being a big increase is still affordable and I like the FC more too. I will get one
As someone who owns both an FC and an FD, I also like the FC more. It looks better, its less flimsy, and I don't bang my elbow on the window every time I drive it.
I always wanted a R32 skyline since I played Gran Turismo 1 when I was a little kid in the late 90's.
So I bought a bone stock R32 GTS-T for 7500 USD in the UK in 2019 and it lived up to my expectations.
Spent so much money restoring/repairing it that people around me think i'm stupid, but that car means a lot to me. 😅
only 4 years ago
this is messed up
Th you mean messed up
The car prices for these nowadays?@@Tornado2409
@@Tornado2409 in japan you can own r32 for 12k
Well, be honest. It's an RB20....
@@Und34d_R RB25
This subject is the whole reason I moved on from jdm to American muscle, I couldn't stand the fact that you can't buy these cars anymore for cheap unless they were heavily modded and ruined, and if they are stock they're extremely expensive. Make fun of me all you want for my boomer car, but that's just where the value is.
Another JDM car that I think has been ruined by clout culture is 350Z (/G35). You see these cars on street takeovers, and honestly it kinda gave the G35/350Z a bad rep, in my opinion G35/350Z is pretty good cars, but their reputation has been ruined by street takeovers, it also effect other cars too like Dodge Challenger and Charger because you see these cars on street takeovers too
Funny you say that. The g35 is technically also a skyline
@@thenormalgamer9037literally just a rebadged Skyline
I will never forgive takeover clowns for ruining the Challenger. It was my dream car since I was a kid.
@@clonecommandermike332It's why I can't bring myself to buy one. It's a nice looking car. I just can't bring myself to be associated with the culture.
@@thenormalgamer9037 it is a rebadged Skyline, not by technicality. It's the Skyline everywhere but North America.
If it wasn’t really for clout, these cars wouldn’t suffer from inflation. I love JDM cars, especially the Silvias, but not to the point I overly worship them. Of course, clout is everywhere no matter where you go. As long as something exists, theres always gonna be clout around it. It is also kinda disappointing that people think that these cars are already powerful at stock like people thinking Supra has 1k hp stock which I find it hilarious. It is disappointing that there are people who lack education about cars.
Nah the clout came after inflation and just contributed a little more. The clout is a byproduct of the inflation of JDM cars. JDM cars always had some level of clout behind them, was just amplified after the fact. The reason they've gone up so much is simply supply vs demand. When the US market opened up, prices went up. Nothing to do with clout, influencers etc.. Prime example, only 14,000 R33 GTRs were made and only 11,000 R34 GTRs. Imagine 0.01% of the US population who were both wealthy and loved cars wanted a R34 GTR. That's a solid 30,000 people, and that's ignoring the rest of the world. In contrast, a Lamborghini Gallardo - 40,000 units were made.
The story about the car looking cooler in the movie, is exactly why you should be aware that you'll never know what it's truly like until you drive it.
less and less places do test drives. Especially Importers, where they need a deposit or some kind of commitment _since they are shipping it overseas after all_ IMO just don't get "married" to an idea of a car, as it'll never live up to expectations. If I can't test drive a car, I'll never bother looking at it, but obv not everyone has that standard. However, I do believe ppl who have "try before you buy" standard, are less susceptible to clout culture scam buys.
I'm surprised that the SW20 MR2 hasn't made this list. We have guys demanding 10k for rusted out rolling chassis. God forbid you try to get your hands on a hard top turbo.
If your doing a US version, the 1969-1970 Dodge Charger is ABSOLUTELY worth mentioning, they destroyed so many in Dukes of Hazard, they had to search for owners with a helicopter
They go for about 70 grand nowadays, don't they?
Really any 60s-70s muscle car. Screw that stupid show for ruining so many iconic cars.
@@clonecommandermike332 That show is also responsible for people wanting chargers, if it didn't destroy them they wouldn't be nearly as popular as they are now
@@doge8606 They definitely would be. Plymouth Roadrunners were never used on a show, but they're still popular.
I'll admit that Im a GTR fan boy but i didnt become one by watching paul walker drift away in f&f, my obsession cam from watching old racing videos. And this is exactly why only the C10 and the R32 are the ones that i actually like. And despite not owning a single one, it emotionally hurts too much when i see one getting trashed or be converted to a 1000hp build
I always loved skylines mostly for their design. For me it is the perfect balance between boxy cars of the 80's and curvy blobs of the 00's. Simillar thing for Silvias, i think they're just beautiful. And bn sports / origin labo style body kits just look amazing on them because unlike modern cars, the corners on the front don't look like they've been cut off for a more "agressive" look.
Now the closest thing to a good looking, RWD coupe with a straight 6 that doesn't cost an arm and a leg is an e46 (And even their prices are going up FAST).
This is why I want to get a mid 60s Vista Cruiser for my wagon fix. They're old as dirt so theoretically you could find a clunker with a workable body and good frame for a few grand, it's an Oldsmobile so it's automatically uncool to the clout chasers, and I already have an F85 with the 330 ci V8 so I already know what the fuck I'm doing when fixing it. That is, if I don't find one with a blown up high compression 330, salvage the pistons to put in the F85 (it has the low compression pistons) and drop a stripped down carbureted or Holley EFI 5.3 in it alongside a 4L80E or Turbo 400, whichever would be easier. Probably the THM400, bell housing adapters are probably easier than getting a factory TCM to work with a standalone ECM.
@@lsswappedcessnaThey’re gonna chase you when you start tapping their prime shitboxes
@lsswappedcessna A lot of good options there. Not sure about salvaging pistons. I ended up buying a set for my build. I needed a forged set for a 312hp 1.8L 4cyl running on 93 octane. The engine is good for more power, but the driveline won't handle it. This is my daily, so I've met my power goal.
A Holly EFI sounds nice. A lot of tuning potential there. 330ci is a respecable V8. Especially with forced induction.
Best of luck.
Cbeers
You might not like this but hear me out: Ford Falcon/Mercury Comet/Mustang/Cougar, with the straight six. There are performance parts for the inline sixes, and they’re bulletproof reliable, but the people building them are a minority because most people just swap a V8 in regardless. Falcons and Comets are especially cheap but since they share a platform with the Mustang, you can get modern suspension upgrades to make them handle well and parts support is excellent. Also any old Chevy with the 250 straight six, in Brazil there’s a huge tuner scene for those and they can reliably put out 1000 hp with a turbo and some bolt on parts, but in America those engines are worthless because every boomer wants an LS swap and won’t touch sixes. Also the Chevy Trailblazer inline six is an incredible tuning platform that even makes AWD conversions theoretically easy, but you have to swap that into something else since it only came in mediocre SUVs. The antidote to clout culture is to find something with little to no clout that’s similar enough or shares a platform and make it what you want it to be.
@@lsswappedcessnaSome of them classic wagons are kinda pricey, especially the vista with the 455.
It's crazy, I could've gotten an S2000 for $9k in 2013 but was still working a job in HS. I love all vehicle makes and models now that I'm grown. But now, people just wanna be "different" and think they gotta prove something.
Like you said, it's just a car.
This car wasn't really ruined by clout culture but the price increase on first generation broncos is absolitely insane. I know most of it is because of limited production numbers but part of it must be related to the people who worship it.
That scene is all dipshit yuppies who got made fun of for hopping out of a Priys wearing head-to-toe North Face gear.
also the gen thats associated with OJ. those are fucking expensive
And kids who only measure cars in "MuH HoRsEpOwEr" will never understand the concept of collectibility. There's a reason why a Toyota 2000GT is a million dollar car despite being slower than a modern base model camry.
@@gamerclip111Wasn't it a 2nd or 3rd gen?
to be honest i think the reason or at least part of the reason that the expectations are so high for the GTR is that due to that weird import law Americans didn't get the chance to have GTR's around in great supply and there for the development for the car started later so where as 20 years ago after first watching F&F i could walk out my front door and encounter a person that owned a GTR (I'm Australian) and have a conversation with them about the modifying process. and i had a more educated expectation of what i wanted if i wanted to get one, plus the development for the GTR in Australia is insane, there's shops in the larger city's that for the right price can build you an entire RB engine with little to no factory Nissan parts that can range in horse power from 600-2000 depending on your bank account, i see the same level of development in platforms that are more common in the US, so I don't think its entirely the fault of the fanboy/ clout chase, i think it only a matter of time for the US guys catch of with development and education
My dad could have bought a blown head gasket nsx for about 5k about 2 years after they came out and he thought they were gonna be just another flop mid engine car (like a fiero lol) and didn’t think it was gonna be anything worth a damn, so he passed on it.
I was pricing totaled NSXs in 2002. Even totaled their starting auction price was $2k
I was planning a NSX drivetrain swap into a CRX. Didn't happen.
WOndering if Clio V6s are expensive now, too. But then again i don't know if there's even that many Clio V6s at all.
@ArbitraryOutcome in the UK they're around 35k-80k GBP, depending on mileage/year. Phase 2 Clios generally sell for 50k+ while Phase 1's (the original deathtraps) are around 35-50k.
They only built around 1500 Phase 1's and 1300 Phase 2's if my memory serves me correctly.
@@Yaz27 So yeah, I think rarity is a huge factor in that case.
Im glad lancer evos aren't extremely popular like the ones on this list. Evo 6s look so nice
Lancer evos are so dope I like the evo 3
@Pinkyyy11515 hell yea the evo 3 is the best out of the 1st generation
the r34 is a forever favorite no matter how hyped it gets
12 minute gang
I knew the Skyline and the RX 7 would be here, but I am shocked to not see the AE86 aka Tak’s tofu delivery here.
Part of the reason why Mazda stopped making rotaries is that they have extremely poor emissions
Jdm is a strange niche community. Most people interested aren't rich enough to obtain them comfortably. The ones who can afford it will aim for something else that makes more sense. The soul of an affordable japanese sports car is gone. Im glad I got my s2000 for a good deal because the jdm community is a victim of self sabotage. We priced ourselves out of our own community.
Yeah, couple days ago I saw an AE 86 going for $20-$50,000 which is absurd
Funniest thing is that its a freaking corolla and just because of Initial D it became overhyped. The whole point of initial D is a talented kid doing the best he can with the crappy econo car he has to deliver tofu. Multiple times he complained that the chassis straight up sucked and had its limit and thats why he ends up with the 22b
@@Random_Car_Guy honestly, i really like the aesthetics of the car but unfortunately, it is what it is
@@Random_Car_GuyI'm just baffled. How do people miss that aspect of the show?!
@@Random_Car_Guyyeah, he even blew the engine mid way lmfao. And even with the new engine which was "racing rated" he still struggled with MR2s , skylines, a kei car and another freaking 86 at the end.
*laughing in my GR Yaris*
Step 1: get a Jetta
Step 2: enjoy a decent daily driver
Step 3: mod it with whatever sounds like fun
Step 4: have no regrets
I love my FC to death, but what you said is 100% correct
Clout chasers get into rotary cars and either kid themselves into paying for it to keep it alive
Or they swap it 🤢
I’m not gonna exclude myself from that, just because I did learn about the car from the internet, however, I’m repairing my FC to drive it as a fun rotary sports car, not a status symbol as a lot of people do.
It’s a sad reality we live in nowadays.
Tell me more about this maintenance you're doing. I watched an engine teardown of an RX-8 engine and nearly had a heart attack. Working on that thing looks insane. Apex seal replacement at 100k mi intervals? I'd rather slit my wrist.
A rotory looks like way too much trouble to me. I can see why people would LS swap them. The power gain is a bonus.
How is your experience with the car?
@@christopherlowery855 I enjoy doing work on cars, so every 100k isn’t that bad personally
I also premix so that extends the mileage a bit more
The weight and distribution is the real selling point for me, it handles great and because it’s an NA rotary, I don’t have to worry about putting too much throttle down (usually)
I’ve removed the engine 4 times now, so I feel like I’m close to pro in that area, it now takes about an hour to go from fully plugged in to in the back of a truck single handedly.
Basically what it’s come down to is this: treat it like a normal engine, and it’ll hate you, treat it like a rotary, and it’ll love you back.
I’ve owned it since the summer before my junior year of high school and I still love it.
It’s honestly just people not knowing how to do the maintenance that makes everyone swap the rotary. Premix and a few mods just for longevity and you’ll be fine
@@cyprusfang535 exactly, this guy gets it
It’s why I feel comfortable daily driving mine
you and me both brother you and me both😭
Finally a yt video about jdm cars that was word to word true.
ill admit, im a skyline fanboy myself
kinda sad im basically hopeless of ever getting one, and no i dont expect it to be a freaking lambo like all these clout boys, i just want a punchy cool coupe but im guessing im F'd
same
yeah same, but its just not worth the money anymore. Crap interior, mediocre performance with a premium price tag.
@@topirinta5969 yeah, not to mention by the time i could afford one itd be even more outclassed
I’ve seen several previous R34 owners comments on some videos and all over the internet, all saying anyone who spends over 15 grand for one is a total idiot. Once you get past the nostalgic aspect of it, and you realize you spent more than 50k on a 25 year old car with average speed, you need to look at yourself in the mirror and slowly paint clown makeup on yourself.
people sometimes overhype the r34 because of its predecessor, the r32 shredding every other car on the track.
@@GooglyMoogly68 r34 may have been good for the time, its just not worth 50k for one, those prices need to drop for once because that is way too much
It makes me sad knowing that Silvia’s and skylines that I grew up dreaming about will never be attainable to me cuz of clout and drift tax. I mean I’m a diehard Nissan fanboy but I still learn about the cars and know very well that 20k is way to much for a mediocre sports coupe who’s entire hype is over drifitng and tv shows. Don’t even get me started in the price of skylines…
I just hope that these clout bois doesn't discover and ruin used motorcycle market
They already started in South Florida unfortunately 🤦♂
fortunately you have to be good at riding to not be violently thrown into the pavement and clout bois are not good at anything because they don't truly care and probably account for 20 percent of crashes
"No no no no!"
-Frank from the punisher
Same thing for the JDM KEI car market... I want to get a Suzuki Alto Workz or Daihatsu Mira one day and I'm hoping I can get one before these same people drive up the price of the Kei cars outside of the ABCs (Autozam, Beat, and Cappuccino)
Hayabusa/ZX-14R Owners: “Honey, you've got a big storm coming.”
This is why I'm glad I don't really love any of these cars, at least not in the way I love my Evo V. Hell, the only reason that some people in the US even know what it is, is because of AdamLZ. Had my first one back in 2007 and imported one to the US this year. It's the best driving of all these cars you listed IMO and most people don't know what it is so I get ignored mostly and it's great.
Hell, you didn't even include it on your "giant collective fever dream" collection.
Best car ever.
In 2024 the s15 will be 25 years old. I wonder how that will affect the prices of it
Someday man imma get one
Buy em now man
they'll shoot up as fast as a Saturn V, unfortunately.
bloody amateur drifters
They will be jacked up in price and ruined like the 240sx s13’s…
N/A Spec S S15s are already on the pricy end, too.
The FD Rx-7 with all the bolt-ons and a stand alone ECU, is deserving of the clout.
Edit- However, in stock form they are uber S-L-O-W
I have never in my life seen an NSX go for under $40k. I’ve also haven’t seen a good condition S-Chassis go for less than 5-figures since the late 2000s. On another note, it baffles me how many people think that my beloved Skyline GT-Rs are fast (today) stock. I wished F&F never made Brian O’Conner drive an R34 GT-R.
The thing about Brian's GTR though is that it wasn't stock, and it's pretty clear from the movies that none of those cars are stock. Like idk how clout bois could have confused the F&F ten giggilion HP octuple turbo 15 speed manuals for a stock GTR.
Hoovie literally bought an NSX for 30k in 2017. Also Cargurus has a tool that tracks car prices based on sales that year.
They were FAST, stock, in the 90's. Literally held the production track records at Nurburgring. You just don't know what the hell you're talking about, and neither does anyone who watches these dumb videos.
The Nissan Skyline GTR R32 is a motorsport legend that has been nicknamed Godzilla for a reason. Like the BMW E30 M3, the Peugeot 205 Turbo 16 or the Ford Mustang BOSS 429, it is one of the greatest and craziest homologation cars ever made. Among car fans it has always been and will always be popular regardless of clout.
Doesn't the RB 26 self destruct?
As a JDM fan up until about 10 years ago, it is sad to see what JDM has become these days. They were supposed to be the underdogs which were impressive for their time, but now they're just overrated.
I remember that too, that was the motivation for me to make a fast JDM. To wipe there smug faces with a sleeper JDM and being a underdog.....crazy that times have changed to this.
The issue with skylines are people are importing the 2L NA sedans they are stock slow as fuck even for its time it was a modest car, its not a GTR and they only realize it once they actually have it in their drive, or on the highway being gapped by regular cars
Just a few years ago, when I was in the last years of elementary school, I wanted to buy a MX-5 as my first car. That was only in like 2018 or so. Now it's practically a final car with it's prices.
Fucking thank you Bladed Angel! You're so dead on about the Skyline, it hurts, as all of them got way too mainstream, thus turning it into a meme car of sorts (Blame the Fast and Furious franchise for that).
Glad I grabbed my c5 before the drift tax and got boiz now that the new gens are discovering that the c5 is basically the jdm car you always wanted that can do anything. Which is why everyone steals the engine for their jdm cars 😂
Nobody worried about a c5 😂
@@REXae86what I’m saying
I'm pricing LS swap components to drop in a miata as we speak.
Great engine. Might just buy a totaled C5 for the parts, lol.
We good off that lil bro
Calling a C5 '' basically a JDM car" is the most heinous shit I've ever heard
I should've bought a Silvia s15 during the recession instead of being 9 years old 😔
People think that any generation of Skyline should be making over 1000hp are nuts!
The R32 I have in mind is going to be bought for the experience of the drive. And I could care about making power on a motor that was perfect, making 600 at the most.
It also doesn't help that most of these cars are a former shell of themselves (I.E. Full carbon bodies, widebody kits, stupid "Track Builds," etc.)
R32 is an amazing car. You will not be disappointed. Mine makes 400whp and it handles on rails! 400-600hp is definitely the sweet spot. Only thing that I do not like about it is the stock brakes are ass.
@Brodys_GTR I heard about the stock brakes and the transmission problems (plus overheating), but I'm willing to put up with it.
Whistling diesels “R34” is an absolute disgrace as an r32 owner. It is absolutely appalling that someone would ruin two good cars
Bladed out here givin Whistlin Diesel vid ideas got me thinking about how crazy these JDM cars have become
Skyline owner here and I can confirm you are 100% spot on Bladed. But I didn't get mine because of the clout, I got it because it is genuinely my dream car. I could care less about speed and power. I just enjoy driving it.
Man ur r33 is clean. Hope one day I acquire a 400R
I feel the same way about my Honda S2000👍
I'll worship Kei Cars/ trucks and japanese sports wagons before the children discover them, I must own a Impreza wagon before it's late
as a station wagon owner, i can attest that kids dont like wagons yet. This 9 year old prefers my brothers g37 over my car. The kid is also a jdm fan
@@idriveastationwagon1534 I just wanted to say that I am a big fan
Station Wagon > SUV
@@AdamSchell303Racing AMEM TO DAT BRUTHA 🙏🙏🙏
HONKAI IMPACT 3RD SUPREMACY!! These new Star Eail kids don't get it, they don't know the REAL Himeko 💔
Glad you at least brought up the Miata 😅
While not an FD, I bought an FC RX-7 from a junk yard for $800 once. Windshield wipers didn't work, otherwise just needed a battery. Those days are long gone.
Also:
I love Skylines. I'm not hiding that i loved it because of NFS and Fast and Furious.
But i originally loved it because of its looks. Nothing more.
I love the sound of them.
R34 is cool.
2 Fast 2 Furious is cringe.
Same
@@BenjaminButton6573 , man, to me, the RB has the best inline 6 engine sound, period.
The R35 is best for it's style and it's V6 engine
Good thing Need for speed hot pursuit 2010 has no tuning upgrades but the R35 is in super series please don't get mad at me bladed
Lancer Evos are underrated,as i know
Just let it be like that forever
Seeing this makes me soo happy to be a Toyota Celica owner and fan. I was lucky in the fact that even as a kid I never really cared about the cars on this list with the exception of the NSX but is was more of a dream car and less of an object of worship. I was the person who fanned over the St165 Celica, EVO's, 300ZX's, galants,and other lesser known or respected cars. Tuner culture is low key dead.
Most of them at this point. Not even gonna mention the less popular ones just in case
The RX-7 is my favourite car, but I don't love it cause it's fast, I love it because of the sound it makes and its balance (50/50 weight distribution, and how lightweight it is)
I’m 18 years old and I have dreamed about owning an R33 GTR since I was 6 and I first saw Leon’s yellow R33 in F&F 1. Pitifully prices had gone up fast, but my dream still alive and I hope one day I’ll accomplish it no matter what
Remember that there are several Lexus models by came with a non turbo 2jz that you can pick up for cheap right now and mod to perform great. This is going away though because I’ve noticed those cars prices soaring recently too
Cheap? 6k for 250k miles on a car only found in auto these days isn't cheap.
Soaring like a Soarer
I found a decent IS300 for 3k a few weeks ago
@@RyuusanFT86It's cheap enough for what they could be going for, or eventually will.
@@ItsDaJax 6k was a low end price mu guy.
They're essentially AE86s these days.
If I ever get the chance to own a Skyline, my main goals are:
1. Drive it
2. Have fun while driving it
I feel like the mk 3 supra are still affordable in some places because it isn’t as recognisable, I had a friend bought one for $400 because the owner mistook it for an old celica. So you can still enjoy mk3 supras (for the time being)
They basically were extended wheelbase Celicas. To get past the chicken tax, they were imported as Celica Supras. That waa the last rwd Celica, too.
I dunno, I think the JDM ones with the 1JZ-GTE from factory might be pricier though.
@@ItsDaJax in Japan, they were literally branded as the Celica XX, with the A60 being the final generation before it became the Supra full time.
It's funny that at this point, the whole argument that muscle cars are more expensive than tuners... Certain muscle cars aside... Falcons, Comets, Darts, Barracudas and other lesser-known cars that carry V8s still carry the same price they did like 10-15 years ago.
As someone who wants JDM cars, this was extremely hard to take in. I do want to pull off the 1000+HP Supra thing. I really do. Not necessarily for the clout, but for something more personal. Hell, I rode shotgun in a Supra 3 years ago and up until that point, I've never been happier. But I don't know if I'll ever get one for myself.
I pity you. I have a best friend who went to the Nuerburgring in a Porsche 911 GT3 RS for a record lap. After this, riding in a Toyota ain’t crap for him. You won’t be sustaining 3 lateral Gs in a Supra.
@@christianobabalao9302 what do you mean? Like I'm gonna roll over or puke my guts out if I dare try?
@@PigMachineSenpaino he means a Supra can never have enough grip to pull that many G’s.
@@bryanr93 I guess. Still, it shouldn't be a huge problem
@@PigMachineSenpai For anything that isn't american, mk4 supras are boats. GTR's, NSX's, and FD's or FC's of the time are much more fun cars to drive as well as most of them being WAYYY cheaper. And I still don't understand why people think 1000hp supras are cool, literally every other guy that owns a mk4 molests it and does that to it.
When it came to Skylines it was specifically Gran Turisimo.
I remember seeing in a games mag that it mentioned one of the staff on the game talking about how Nissan's profits blew up from people buying them.
Most probably the reason why they let Kazunori Yamauchi design the GTR/R35 (at least in part).
However you can place F&F as another influence, everyone knows Brian's silver and blue R34.
We need kit cars to replace the old 2door rwd jdms that use easy to obtain common engine gearbox setups
I paid $7k for a heavily modified 1987 Buick Grand National in 2000. Now you can’t find one any condition short of wrecked for less than 30-40k.
And same, bone stock it’s a 14 second car yet stock with an adjustable fuel pressure regulator and wastegate and it’s a 12 second- 11 second on sticky tires.
The Grand National is cool, but way overhyped.
On the RX-7, there is one thing that is more disgusting than how insanely overpriced they are nowdays, but the fact that first these people will spend 100k+ on one, and then ENGINE SWAP IT, that is literally buying the car just to get rid of the whole point of the car, it'd be like buying a hummer and then shrinking it, buying a lada and making it not garbage, buying a carlton and never driving it past 30 mph, and what's worse is that it's not even people who do it to annoy people, these apes do it because they have so little common decency that they think it's cool!
Fun fact! NONE of the cars you care(d) about were fast WITHOUT being tuned. Skyline, Supra, Rx-7 so on and so on.
So? One does not buy a car only for speed a car isn't fun just cause its "fast"
@@Toyotacorollaaltis-cn9fd MANY buy the car because they think it's fast and mainly know it from doing fast things. My statement is for those with the misconception.
As someone who bought a Second-gen RX-7 off of a Grand Monther, I was blown away by how good it was kept she read the user manual (By that she kept the engine lubricated with oil) with no crazy mods just bone stock Second-gen RX-73S this was an older Japanese lady so that is more than likely the reason it was so well kept. The RX-7 FD's you see for 70 grand were never taken good care of They didn't read the user manual and like the point you bring up, In the video most of them are on their last leg before selling them.
The skyline is just beautiful I don’t care about 1000hp looks amazing
The skyline was actually really competitive in racing in its time. The R32 was probably the fastest Japanese car of the early 90s.
He even put MODERN in all caps. He was not talking about being fast in the 90's, he was talking about being fast in 2023.
Also, those skylines were heavily modified, hence being a race car, so they really weren't ever that fast stock.
@@dense_and_dull
I know, I was intending to say that one of the reasons for their high price is their racing success.
@@Philip_Michalke These prices aren't indictive of racing pedegree. They're just blown out of proportion because the fanboys will drop more money than the car is worth based on nostalgia.
@whymustyouignorereality I mean, the RB was basically limited from the factory since it's a race-bred engine.
@@Tornado2409 "The BMW 850csi has the same engine as the McLaren F1!!!" That is pretty much how I see your comment. The RB in a JTCC Skyline would be pretty indistinguishable from a manufactured road going RB.
It's all the fast and furious people that got Into cars not really knowing anything about them.
HOW THE FUCK isn't the AE86 here???? it may be an icon, but it still is an economy car from the 80's, not fast at all by modern standards and is ridiculously expensive
I don't think it was all that quick on arrival, either. It was light, RWD, and got sideways easily, but it also had the aerodynamics of a brick (something I think had way more to do with overall performance than the 130 PS factory engine).
Idk if I'm too young to be talking, but I just like JDM for their style and history. I don't expect any JDM car to be a rocket on day one of owning it, and hopefully people see it like that too one day.
I’m glad South Africa isn’t the only place with way overpriced older cars. Toyotas, BMWs, etc, even the golf mk1 is still selling generally around R 20 000 to R 30 000 and just to put that in perfective on average a working class person will bring home R 25 000 ish ( I’m estimating ) a month, that’s probably before taxes, rent , food etc , it’s just crazy times
That doesn't really sound too bad
The Supra being milked so hard bmw renamed one of its cars to make a new one
Glad I got my 3000gt just in time. Prices have really skyrocketed this year for no reason I can think of…
She is old and I have spent five figures prices last year just in repairs. But she never lets me down on long roadtrips, only on grocery shoppings 😅. At some point everything should be fixed right?
No they didn't? I'm in the forum groups for 3/S and they basically have been the same for the past 3-4 years. They crept a little in 2020 during covid but they haven't gone up anymore since then. Also your raising the prices of parts with your comment when we already have a limited supply of them.
@@atlasreserve9111well I live in Europe and they really have gone up quite a bit here (if you can even find one) Not sure about America but I heard in the past you could get a vr4 for 10k; not anymore? But like I said I am really talking about Europe 😊
@@estebanoussehmine5019 that's totally fair, I apologize! I was speaking for America. I suppose your right they could have fluctuate prices somewhere else.
R34 GTRs were selling for up to 200k here in Australia in Covid. Ridiculous
I don't think most people understand that when I say the Supra or R34 is overrated, I don't think they're bad cars; they're actually really cool cars! They're just loved more than they need to be
Plus S660 and Pajero Mini Evo are best JDM cars so....
the sudden influx of jdm shit coming into the USA has ruined prices worldwide
okay, tbh the rx7 looks insanely cool, im not suprised its so overprized
Probably never gonna buy any of these due to scuffed prices but glad I like the less popular generations. I like the S15 just cause of the styling, the R33 also for the styling, a MK3 supra because so grew up playing GT1 (without memory card) where that was the best starter car and I like the lil Dorito easter eggs in the RX8 or the styling of the FC more than the FD
Will it sucks to be you now cause the fc is reaching fd prices. As for mk3 supra turbo? Not quite but not paying 25k for it.
I’ve had a 350z for a couple of months now, absolutely love it and plan on keeping it stock (it’s fast enough standard), people keep asking if I’m going to mod it but always get disappointed when I say no.
Always wanted an r34 gtr but as i got older and saw the prices of my dream cars as a kid skyrocket i realized it wont happen. Then i realized i just like the body shapes of these cars, so i went out and bought a HR34 sedan. Love 4 doors, love the general look of the r34 and this mf has a 2.0l thicc block that i can absuse the fuck out of. Perfect drift car and can put friends in it. dont care about going fast. 300hp is enough so slide this bad boy aroubd, granted it only comes with 215hp at most but im more than happy to do engine mods to get it where i want it to be.
The 4 door Skylines are slowly getting more expensive too
@@WordsRelythey dont even know shit about cars they only know that a gtr/mk4 can beat supercars lmao
What is a HR34?
@@ItsDaJax four-door R34 Skyline
Agree, I imported an ER34 4 door GTT and quite a few people had no idea a 4 door was available, let alone as a turbo. But, I love 4 doors and it was cheap as the clout is not there. @@WordsRely
I bought an RX7 FD when I lived in Japan (2009) for 6k. It had about 60k miles on it, and no maintenance done on the apex seals. The engine blew right as I was getting out of the military. It was a great car though. Super sleek/sexy, and fun to drive. It came with a nice body kit, and quite a bit of modifications. I hope to one day buy one again, and if I win the lottery, maybe get a skyline R34 GTR. For now I'll enjoy driving my 2019 STi weekend warrior
i wish i was in the car market in 2018 😭
I know
Fr I was 10 when the car market was good 😭😭 (I was born in 2008 and am 15 now and am in the market of the car this year)
I wish I knew how to drive when I was 16 😢
@@Atisdel_Entertainment_Officialdont worry about it, i was born 6 years before you and the market was already garbage by 2018. The big three of jdm cars have been expensive for years
@derp_wolf9688 Yeah since about 2005
6:27 the best sleeper money can buy is definitely a Ford Falcon with a Barra (turbocharged), a few bits and pieces you’ll be likely to hit 1500hp. In a 4 Door Family sedan that is the counterpart of the Mustang. Who’s needs a GT-R when you can get them cheap. Wait… Ford US won’t make them because they’re better than the Mustang Mach-E SUV 😢
I just like the skyline cause i want to find out the actual potential that you can get just out of the stock engine
I got a question
CAN YOU HANDLE IT ?
@@AnthroGearhead we first need the car don't we
Pretty sure hundreds of people have done that already. That's like asking the limits of an LS1.
@@ItsDaJax cool didn't ask you
@@aiddie9040 Too bad.
Wait
How mitsubishi gto got mentioned? I barely see people like me talking about this car
This one can't be ruined
If you do American cars, the first i can think of is the Cadillac CTS-V especially the wagon. Not that it started super cheap, but because its become way more desired than when it came out.
Another take: not exactly clout culture, but 2nd Gen Dodge Rams, OBS Chevys, and 7.3 powerstroke fords have inflated to some degree because of youtube i believe. But this could also be because new trucks are expensive luxuries now. Doesnt help that 2009 cash for clunkers killed off 400k trucks
Spot on with the Cash for clunkers truck assessment. You used to be able to get a running 4x4, whether that be a truck, Jeep, Bronco or Blazer, for cheap. Nowadays, anything under 10k is going to be rusted to pieces and have 230k miles on it. Anything halfway decent is going to be 10k< because I kNoW wHaT I gOt! Offroading used to be an easy and fun way to get into cars but now it's too expensive.
The latter for sure. New car buyers moved into the used car market once new cars became impossble to finance. They think $20k for a car is cheap, while used car buyers think $2k for a car is cheap.
Any Hellcat seems like a no-brainer for the American car vid, too. Same with the Ford Crown Victoria, something Bladed brought up years ago I think.
The R34 looks so amazing, such a shame we can only have it as a wallpaper
these are so true, especially r34
the tofu tax is real
Any Evo enjoyers here? 👀
9th gen especially, love it