How I feel about TREE FERN FIBRE & FLUVAL STRATUM 🤔 Prop Experiment Results

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  • I've quite enjoyed testing out these two very different substrates over the past month and a bit. Tbh I'm quite surprised with the results!
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    TIMESTAMPS:
    00:00 Intro
    01:24 Tree Fern Fibre Totem
    04:37 Tree Fern Fibre in D-Shaped Pole
    08:15 Propagation Experiment
    10:35 Control - Water
    11:20 Control - Sphagnum Moss
    12:27 Tree Fern Fibre
    14:24 Fluval Stratum
    17:07 Final Thoughts

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  • @crochetqueen6440
    @crochetqueen6440 9 місяців тому +11

    As a new zealander I'm stoked that overseas ppl are getting into fern fibre, it's the best! I love it in moss poles too, on it's own, and I completely agree with you that the pressed poles are garbage, they're just too compacted to allow the roots to grow in and really just work as a stake like you said.
    But as a prop medium, and even as a long term substrate, it's wonderful stuff. Hoya INSANELY love it, and I use it regularly to prop and then transfer to semi hydro, they always seem to do well going from there compared to moss. So glad you like!

    • @ObjectiveMedia
      @ObjectiveMedia 6 місяців тому

      Hey just to clarify are you saying to soak the boards then break them up and use them as soil amendment? Thanks!

    • @crochetqueen6440
      @crochetqueen6440 6 місяців тому

      No, you buy it as a substrate on it's own. Not to say what you're suggesting couldn't work, but I don't know whether they use anything to make the pressed fibre keep it's shape? I guess you could try but it's much easier to just buy bagged fibre on it's own@@ObjectiveMedia

  • @kendasaunders606
    @kendasaunders606 9 місяців тому +6

    I have started propagating in Pon and it works great! Especially nice for cacti and succulents, I have re-rooted several succs in Pon and they are very happy. Yes on the Stratum, its reusable until it dissolves into black dust. When I prop in Stratum I flood the cup, water to the top and it helps some with the drying. Thanks for the content Emma! Appreciate you!

  • @KathyGallagher01
    @KathyGallagher01 9 місяців тому +7

    I found with the stratum you need to keep a water reservoir in the container so that it never has the chance to dry out, personally had great success with stratum and with tree fern fibre for propagating.
    The tree fern mixed with chunky medium of your choice works amazingly well, Anthurium love it as do Hoya. 🌱💚

    • @GoodGrowing
      @GoodGrowing  9 місяців тому +1

      Ahhhh maybe that's where I went wrong...

  • @latanyamckenzie277
    @latanyamckenzie277 9 місяців тому +4

    This was a good experiment. Do more of this.

  • @virginiaacosta806
    @virginiaacosta806 9 місяців тому +2

    I've been propagating in pumice and that's been working really well for me

  • @pinstripesuitandheels
    @pinstripesuitandheels 9 місяців тому +2

    Woke up from one of my nightly horrible dreams, and can't get back to sleep. Had some tea and read a bit of LOTR. Now it's time to settle down again with someone who always makes me smile with her bubbliness and enthusiasm.

    • @GoodGrowing
      @GoodGrowing  9 місяців тому

      Oh no!! I'm so sorry to hear you had a rough night! I hope this video helped even just a little bit!

    • @pinstripesuitandheels
      @pinstripesuitandheels 9 місяців тому +1

      @@GoodGrowing it did, and I fell asleep listening to your voice in another video. ☺️

  • @Jason24nga
    @Jason24nga 9 місяців тому +3

    I love doing experiments, I also had these issues when I first tried using these. I have found mixing perlite, tree fern and flugal together makes my cuttings root 2/3 times as fast, I had to play with ratios a bit to find the right amount for my over watering habits, lol
    Hoyas especially love this combination

    • @GoodGrowing
      @GoodGrowing  9 місяців тому +1

      Oooh that sounds like a fun combo! Maybe I'll give that a go! thanks

  • @ThatGirlShelbyy
    @ThatGirlShelbyy 9 місяців тому +4

    I’ve been waiting for plant content today, I clicked so fast 😂😭 I just got my first ever order of Leca in the mail yesterday, it’s been soaking for 24 hours and I’m debating doing another full 24 hour soak.. I’ve seen the Leca Queen recommend 3 24-hour soaks but I’m not patient enough for that 🤣
    I still haven’t tried tree Fern or stratum either.. I’d like to someday though

    • @maylani3697
      @maylani3697 9 місяців тому +1

      I’m a fan of Leca. It’s fairly inexpensive and reusable. Just make sure to disinfect it before reusing it. It’s sooo much easier to clean up any run-away Leca balls than Fluval or soil. I’m in a dry climate. My plants seem to do better in Leca.

    • @GoodGrowing
      @GoodGrowing  9 місяців тому +1

      I defo never soaked mine for the full 24 hours before using it... then again that was a couple of years back

  • @margimorris7360
    @margimorris7360 9 місяців тому +3

    Hello. Thanks for your video on the different substrate. In the past I have never done poles because of the work that comes with them. I ended up buying a very large pole with a monkey mask and I'm using TFF mixed with moss. I live in Australia and started the plant in April and it has doubled in size. I seriously only water it every 1 to 1.5 weeks. I went on holidays for 3 weeks and the kids didn't water this plant and its doing beautifully. With one of my now very small Hoya that I have had many issues with I am now experimenting with having moss mixed with TFF with no drainage on a permanent basis. 🤦‍♀the things we do for our plants

    • @GoodGrowing
      @GoodGrowing  9 місяців тому +2

      sounds like the perfect solution then! I defo want to try a mixed one soon!

  • @nehab4148
    @nehab4148 9 місяців тому +3

    Love this! I’ve started mixing stratum with perlite and that seems to be much better for me as it’s less dense and allows for a few more air pockets

    • @TraciBunkers
      @TraciBunkers 9 місяців тому +1

      Me too! I've had great success with a 50 stratum/50 perlite mix & I reuse it without a problem.

  • @blanchegodwin4648
    @blanchegodwin4648 4 місяці тому +1

    Great comparison

  • @NorthbertR
    @NorthbertR 3 дні тому

    Thank you for that video. I was thinking about tree fern fiber for when I will get some nice anthuriums. It may work from what I see in your video. For propagation I am very conservative: clean water and sphagnum :-)

  • @EarthenEden
    @EarthenEden 9 місяців тому +1

    I use the fluval stuff for my alocasia corms and have great luck with it! 😊

  • @maxzytaruk8558
    @maxzytaruk8558 9 місяців тому

    Yo thank you so so much for following up with this!!:)

  • @aplantprocess
    @aplantprocess 9 місяців тому

    This was great.

  • @annaparker4842
    @annaparker4842 Місяць тому

    I think most ppl keep the fluval basically self watering. Which makes it work much better.

  • @natjoy22
    @natjoy22 9 місяців тому +1

    I have fluval as the base layer under soil of a terrarium for added nutrients. I made it in a class and this was my first encounter with stratum and the terrarium is thriving! I've also been told that in a closed prop box, little prop cups with it work great. I have a bas, but haven't experimented myself yet!

    • @GoodGrowing
      @GoodGrowing  9 місяців тому +1

      ooh I could imagine it working well in a closed box so it stays more moist!

    • @nehab4148
      @nehab4148 9 місяців тому +1

      Same here! I use it on top of leca and under a terrarium mix / moss in a jar and it works well I think

  • @carolstuff
    @carolstuff 9 місяців тому

    Like that all the cuttings grew roots. I use all, except moss…it sticks to roots too much; it’s great for moss poles. You can reuse both tree fern & fluval. Thanks for sharing Emma!

  • @msladyjune3285
    @msladyjune3285 9 місяців тому

    I like tree fern fiber to propagate. My Syngoniums Collection is in a Lechuza Pot with half soil and half Aroid mix and a layer of PON in the bottom. When I add new rooted plants I add the tree fern fiber too. It works for me. So glad you made this video. Thanks. 🪴Keep Growing🌿

  • @sathusundar6122
    @sathusundar6122 9 місяців тому +1

    Beautiful Crotons it will produce lot of fresh air 👍💯💯🌴🍎🍉🍎🌸🍁🌼🍅🌵☘️

  • @SparkleInMoonlight
    @SparkleInMoonlight 9 місяців тому

    Cool experiment and review. Very helpful video.
    Seeing the results, I´ll continue my water propagations (it´s cheap, very clean, transparent, easier to get rid of pests, transfer to any media I might chose later).

  • @sassysoutherngal6819
    @sassysoutherngal6819 9 місяців тому +2

    I have never had any success with the tree fern poles. I chopped them up to use in my pots. I mix perlite with my stratum and have been fairly successful with my props. I keep the prop containers filled to the top. And Stratum can be reused.

    • @GoodGrowing
      @GoodGrowing  9 місяців тому

      haha yeah i might just need to chop it up to use in soil...

  • @ronanhayes4968
    @ronanhayes4968 9 місяців тому

    I bring my d moss poles into the shower and drown them once they get crunchy and I find it good. Especially for Amydrium medium silver as the moisture seems to activate new shoots on the side of the vine. Must try tree fern fibre as it seems more practical once plants and poles get huge. Great review - thanks for the helpful info and testing these methods out!

  • @jodidelong3663
    @jodidelong3663 3 місяці тому

    Thank you for this, Emma, very informative. I only recently heard about fluval stratum as being great for hoyas (I'm a bit of a hoyahead, lol). It's more readily available and cost effective here in Canada so I'll get some and give it a try, as I mostly use leca, pon and perlite for my baby plants, and pon is hard to get (dunno why).

  • @plantsinjars
    @plantsinjars 9 місяців тому

    Fluval stratum mixed with perlite is goated

  • @marygorchidsmore2058
    @marygorchidsmore2058 9 місяців тому +2

    Great video, thanks for the review and sharing it with us. Recently I bought tree fern fibber to grow some of my orchids in it, so I'm glad that you got a good result from it. Do you have any other advise regarding using this substrate such as watering or mixing it with any other substrate?

    • @GoodGrowing
      @GoodGrowing  9 місяців тому +1

      I've personally not tried it in any other way except for the 2 mentioned

  • @ninasuculentasymas
    @ninasuculentasymas 9 місяців тому +3

    I find that fluval props are easier to transfer to pon.

    • @GoodGrowing
      @GoodGrowing  9 місяців тому

      Interesting! Is it because the stratum comes off the roots easily?

  • @hennesseyme9112
    @hennesseyme9112 20 днів тому

    You can reuse fluval as long as there is no rot. Never let it dry out with your plant in it, or it will kill it.

  • @sunshinecarnivores1919
    @sunshinecarnivores1919 9 місяців тому

    Never knew Fluval dried out faster. Then again, I only used for one of my mangroves that need to sit in water all the time.

  • @taylorstewart8309
    @taylorstewart8309 9 місяців тому +1

    i also decided i hate stratum so now i just use it for top dressing lol

  • @user-in6ho9tg6j
    @user-in6ho9tg6j Місяць тому

    What about orchid barks?

  • @AammaK
    @AammaK 9 місяців тому +2

    Did I miss it or did you mention how long your propagation experiment was? How long were the cuttings in these media?

    • @GoodGrowing
      @GoodGrowing  9 місяців тому

      it was about 6 weeks... since the last video really

  • @daveoverstreet5148
    @daveoverstreet5148 9 місяців тому +1

    Regarding the fluval: I wouldn't be too eager to use a medium that I had to add another medium to keep it moist. Like, why aren't I just using perlite to begin with? Interesting video, thanks!

  • @Ellocasia
    @Ellocasia 9 місяців тому

    In going to London and Kent in March for a wedding and i really want to visit a London plant shop! I see lists but can't really tell the quality. Probably not going to buy a plant plant but a planty item. Any shop name advice??

    • @GoodGrowing
      @GoodGrowing  9 місяців тому

      I like Nunhead Gardener, N1 or W6 nursery, Conservatory Archives

  • @stephanierene3537
    @stephanierene3537 7 місяців тому

    Thank you so much for the idea on filled moss poles with different substrates. I am thinking about trying coco coir and perlite. Just to avoid using moss and dealing with it becoming hydrophobic.

  • @PhoenixFyreRising
    @PhoenixFyreRising 9 місяців тому +1

    I want to try Tree Fern. Heard good things about it from you and Claire (your friend). I use stratum with Pon when baby plants have established roots. And they are growing ok. I am also using Leca as a bottom layer and Pon on top. This way I can see the reservoir better. But Stratum alone? Messy and not as good. Plus Stratum is expensive also.

  • @lindaedwards4632
    @lindaedwards4632 9 місяців тому +1

    I wasn’t a fan of Fluval too, I could never tell if it needed watering 🤦‍♀️ It looks the same wet or dry 🤷‍♀️🇨🇦

    • @GoodGrowing
      @GoodGrowing  9 місяців тому

      it so does!!

    • @SteraFaux
      @SteraFaux 3 місяці тому

      Just pay attention to the water layer in the cup. I keep mine 1/3-1/2 full at all times after about a week of keeping it completely saturated to get the process going. It wicks very well and I've had a monstera adansonii in it for about 4 months and she's doing great.

  • @hedgewitch59
    @hedgewitch59 9 місяців тому +9

    Just bear in mind that tree fern fibre comes from shredded, nature grown tree ferns that are being cleared from the forests of Australia and New Zealand. They take absolute ages to grow and are so beautiful. Please don't use tree tern fibre. There's a lot better alternatives. 😢

    • @rosaerdbeershake9194
      @rosaerdbeershake9194 9 місяців тому

      Yes, this is a dangerous trend!

    • @rar435
      @rar435 9 місяців тому +6

      I have actually heard the opposite. That because of New Zealand regulations it HAS to be farmed sustainably. Outside of there, not so sure, but with everything we should just be researching and supporting brands we believe in.

    • @kat1984
      @kat1984 9 місяців тому +4

      ​@rar435 I only use NZ sphagnum moss with my orchids and single surviving peperomia because of the strict regulations. I also refuse to buy anything with peat moss/sphagnum peat moss because of the sustainability issues. I use coconut husk chunks and coir because of it. Gardening has a huge environmental impact.

    • @GoodGrowing
      @GoodGrowing  9 місяців тому +7

      Yeah I was defo nervous about trying it because of that but based on the Fernwood website, their stuff seems to be farmed responsibly?

    • @malindarayallen
      @malindarayallen Місяць тому

      New Zealand makes sure it is gathered responsibly at a rate that is slower than it's replenished.

  • @gamingsensisensi7956
    @gamingsensisensi7956 9 місяців тому

    the thing with fluval is it is realy a substrate for bioactive terrariums and in my one i use it as the drainage layer as it don't hold water that well

    • @GoodGrowing
      @GoodGrowing  9 місяців тому

      Hmmm maybe I'll give it a ago in a terrarium then! thanks!

  • @jamiewestover6760
    @jamiewestover6760 9 місяців тому +1

    Fluval is so pricey! Absolutely not worth it to me when I compare it with my success with other media.

    • @GoodGrowing
      @GoodGrowing  9 місяців тому

      Agreed! Glad I was able to swap for some instead of buying!

  • @musicalmarion
    @musicalmarion 9 місяців тому +3

    Water's free... 🙂

  • @andyandbee
    @andyandbee 9 місяців тому

    Can you do the "double cup" method with stratum cuttings, like when you regularly are rooting something just in water. It will stay moist due to the amount of humidity. Or even adding a reservoir. Or both, so a triple-cup-method.
    Loved this update, thanks so much! I wanted to buy these substrates badly and I'm very much under the poverty line, so I have to be choosy when I save my money for my new plant stuff!!! 💚🪴🌵

    • @GoodGrowing
      @GoodGrowing  9 місяців тому +1

      Ooh yeah that could work. I defo think keeping the fluval one in a more moist setting would help.
      Always glad to help! From my first few weeks of impressions I'd defo rate the tree fern fibre, but wouldn't say fluval is worth paying to experiment with

    • @andyandbee
      @andyandbee 9 місяців тому

      @@GoodGrowing thanks so much! I may be getting some tree fern fibre in my near future thennn! 💚🌵🪴