externally regulated alternator to internally regulated conversion EASY WAY gm how to
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- Опубліковано 6 бер 2016
- car is a 72 monte carlo
easy way to convert a GM externally regulated charging system over to an internally regualted without cutting any wires
What are the two wires at two minutes and 30 seconds that you’re using? the two rainbow shape ones
the whole point of the video… WOW
@@chriscraft77022 I was just asking what do I search for like what is that wire called? just a double jumper wire like you said in the video I just didn’t know if there was like a technical name for it
And size and all
@@chriscraft77022 what gauge and what size are the metal ends?
@@chriscraft77022 yeah so…. Can’t find that size of the metal terminal part. What size is that? Bought two kits and they all to big to fit into the regulator harness.
The thing is,once you watch this video and see how easy it is,don't watch another after and forget all you saw before. If you don't do that,you'll get dazed amd confused. Thanks for the share man👍👍✌️
Your advice was spot on! The new alternator is producing 14.2 volts! Thanks again for posting this!
Thanks for the video man, I had a new alternator for a mid 80s SS Monte Carlo sitting around for a decade that I was able to use when my generator in my 72 Monte died thanks to your video.
im building my 72 monte carlo and this is the exact video i needed. Didn't even know it was a 72 monte until i watched it. Damn dude, thanks.
Cleanest way we seen to do it yet ! Thank you for this 👍
I know what i will be doing to my 68 lesabre this weekend thanks for this awesome video
I just did this on my 66 Chevy truck and I'm very grateful for the video it works great thank you so much
What alternator did you use and is yours a 292 engine... just wondering what alt will work with my brackets
Thanks chris good help for my 1972 intern alternator GOD BLESS YOU MAN👍welcam to MEXICO
I have a Ford regulator but the wiring patterns are the same. This video saves me a lot of work. Thanks
Kin fu did you install it on you Ford?
Incredible man I did the same on my 1964 Cadillac and it works super thanks
I had a 1966 Chevy 2 (Nova) station wagon back in the late 1980's it had a bad voltage regulator and putting the new one in and "balancing" the strength of the magnetic field in the ( external regulator ) was a pain in the ass. I said to myself: there's got to be a WAY to put the more modern version of A/C Delco, internally regulated alternator on an pre 1973 Chevy ( or other G.M. vehicle ) I was thinking about it again tonight 3 am, Saturday August 14th, 2021 and looked it up on UA-cam. It's so simple ! A MILLION thanks to you for this great, great video. I don't understand why ANYONE would give this a thumbs down. - Jim in Buffalo, Ny
This was the exact video I needed! Thanks so much !
Hello Chris i really appreciate your videos they are all very helpful and educational i do have a question for you hope you can help me with I’ve got CVF alternator that’s a one wire deal but it’s got 4 prongs and one is a little bit further apart then the other 3 I’ve not been able to get anywhere with CVF on the phone but they say they don’t sell any plugs or anything for there alternators crazy to me Thanks buddy
Great job on the conversion! Planning to do this on my 1970 Monte!
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Cris craft you the man gotta 1972 monte carlo 454 just did the conversion runs top notch thanks bro
Just did this on my 66 olds 425 worked perfectly thanks man.
Another great video. I'm doing exactly this with my '70 C-10.
So did the conversion work?
This should help tremendously, I just picked up a 74 Nova and on the way home noticed the GEN light was on, figures the one thing I wouldn't question is the thing that could have made me call AAA. Time to upgrade.
Great video, thanks so much, everything is working Awesome.
Awesome Video Straight to the point Exactly what I was looking for Thank you Very Much !!!!!!!!!!!
Very good video so so simple and to the point...
PERFECT GOOD JOB!!! Great explanation!
Thanks broseph.
Madness 🙏🏽 god bless
I appreciate this greatly! It's exactly what I'm looking for.
love it good tunes as well
Awesome video. Thanks!
thanks a mill,,,worked like a charm...
I'm so happy to see your site...Its frickin awesome...Its almost to easy..So how or what would a guy use to attach the conversion wire harness end so it won't dangle ..I'm clueless about all this wiring deal.My car was almost stripped out of everything when I bought it...Hard lesson to learn...
doing this today on my 69 c10. At some point someone put a later model 305 with an internally regulated alternator AND an external regulator. Add that to the suspect alternator and my subs and amp were always going into protect mode from voltage dips. Hopefully with new high output alternator and eliminating the external regulator it will be good to go. Great vid.
on that truck you can only run 75 amp with the stock wiring.. what alternator are gonna go with?
@@chriscraft77022 have done big three upgrade :2 gauge battery cables, 4 gauge alt wire(at a junction box tied to battery), 4 gauge grounds to block and body. 140 amp alternator. Do you think that will be a problem?
Freakin great vid good info!!!!
AWESOME!!!! WORKED LIKE A CHAMP. THANKS SO MUCH.
Me salvaste la vida dios te bendiga hermano..
The guy's REALLY good with important details. 4:50 He mentions that the threads on the STUD that sticks out of the alternator MIGHT be METRIC on the new alternator because these internally regulated alternator's were typically found or made for cars in the mid 1970's and later and G.M. and other auto makers were "farming out" or "outsourcing" the manufacture of parts to places like Canada and Mexico that - you guessed it - use the METRIC system. If you lose the nut for that stud and figure "oh, well, I have another one on the OLD alternator that I can use..." watch out ! If it's NOT the same thread style as the new alternator you WILL strip the hell out of the stud or snap it off. In either case you're F... screwed and WILL have to not only take out the new alternator that you JUST installed BUT you will have to disassemble the alternator to replace the stud. Take your time for crissakes. An ounce of prevention is worth a pound of CURE. Slow and steady wins the race. P.S. as he mentions: don't OVERTIGHTEN that small nut you WILL snap off the stud. I've done it. I've stripped them AND I've broken them off ( no, not on the same job ) have you ever seen a 275 lb mechanic cry. ? It's not pretty.
I made my alternative 1&2 blue and white wire plug with female spade connector soldered and heat shrink
Thanks man. I bought a 1970 chevelle and the previous owner tired to convert the alternators but he wired it completely wrong from what you did.
I have seen everything possibly done to these cars.. that is why I make videos
got some silversun pickups going in the background, right on
Great, now Herbie goes to Monte Carlo. All jokes aside, thanks. My beetle just got a new chrome Empi alternator to go with my new engine. The old external regulator one couldn't keep up with the 1916cc rebuilt twin port. It was on it's way out and started putting out 17 to 19 volts at my battery. Then it had a meltdown and threw the belt. Similar scenario with the gen light on the instrument cluster and exciter wire.
Thanks for this video help me a lot
Great video keep them coming
Hi Chris! Great video, very informative. If it's not too much to ask, would you please enlighten me? I have a 1979 Opel manta b that I can seem to figure out how to wire. The solenoid has only 1 red wire attached to it it starts and runs but it has a very low orangey spark. Should there be another wire that goes somewhere? Thanks man..
Used these home made jumpers on my 64 impala when I replaced the external to internal regulated Alternator - actually had no choice as had a GEN light ON when it was running _ not anymore and is solid voltage on my cheap A-- ammeter..... Thanks
Ken Moore I'm doing the switch on my 63 impala. What alternator did you go with?
my 64 is better than yours 🏌🏌🏌🏌
My 64 is better then all yours. It's a wagon!
THANKS!
Great Video! Upgrading my 65’ Chevelle but Alt is on Driver’s side.....Do I need to be concerned with stock wires overheating or even burning causing fire?
did you unhook your battery lol great vid well done with no bullshit you should get the noble prize. getting ready to do this on a 70 gmc did it many years ago on one but it wasn't this easy. I don't think. at this point in time I can't remember what I had for lunch yesterday . thanks . and don't forget to unhook the battery
Awesome man thank you. I picked up a 72 Pontiac Ventura for my sons first car and it was having a charging issue. Previous owner put a new alternator on it but left the original regulator so it was only charging around 12 volts or just under. She’s charging fine now but I still have the generator dummy light on. Any reasons you can think of as to why? Not a big deal he can drive it as is.
Autozone has a plastic voltage regulated that fits right in with rebuilt alternater
4:20 When you pry back the "keeper" tabs on the female brass terminal connector you MUST be very careful to NOT be too ROUGH or HEAVY handed with them. Don't pry them back VERY far either they WILL snap off. These are the keeper tabs that the video instructor mentioned 3:31 about halfway through the video that you push down on to cause them to "disengage" on the inside of the original alternator's ( white ) plastic connection plug. SO BEFORE you insert each wire into the plastic connection plug for the NEWER style, internally regulated alternator - you HAVE TO pry the "keeper" tab, of each wire, back outward so that when you insert the wire into the new plastic connection plug it will be "kept" in place. You'll feel it "click" when you've pushed it in far enough. That will indicate that it's inserted far enough and will stay inserted. You can gently pull back on each wire after you've inserted them to TEST whether or not the keeper tab had indeed "grabbed onto" it's companion mounting surface inside the plastic connection plug.
Chris, do you have a FB page?
Or another contact Like an email? On my alt side the wires aren't right. There's a red wire on the clip meaning where you push the fittings into the slot. The red they have going to the post on the backside of the alt. I want to try to sent you a pic. Ken
So looking at my wires on my alt, and I think this is wrong. In the plug position, meaning the number 1 that one they have wired, with a wire going to the back post-power of the alt. In yr diagrams that wire should be the number two position. My Gauge reads only 12:3 volts only.
Will this work on a 1964 Buick Riviera? I want to install a 105 or 200 amp alternator. I have two alpine amps 450 watts each ,one is for a sub. I’m also going to install a MSD electronic ignition & 8.5 plug wires.
Worked great
they sell kits to do this exact same thing... a little box plugs in and jumps the wires... THEY WILL HAVE YOU RUN A DIODE TO #1 WIRE ON ALTERNATOR pointing towards the ALT
Alternator plug went bad ...2 wire original....new purchased plug has 3 wires...Do you know where 3rd wire goes...Im assuming it's a ground ...🤔
Time to.upgrade my 66 GMC. It still has the original external regulator and the massive 35A original alternator. They work, but 35A just isn't enough to support my mods (electric fan, halogen headlights, stereo, HEI etc). It's been running the fan right off the battery pretty well, but at night with headlights and wipers on, the voltmeter in the cab showing 10V barely. It's not that low at the battery I'm sure, that's just the drop through the harness, but it probably is an overall discharge with that much load on the old alternator. Amazing that it's held up so long.
I have a 100 amp alternator video you might want to check out
Thank you sir...
Great video. Short to the point. K
if you have problems watch my gm 3 wire hook up video with the Chevelle
Hello my friend, i could use some help. I have a Mercury Monterey custom 1962, this vehicle has a generator with a regulator with exterior voltage already integrated. I'm trying to put an alternator instead of a generator. My question is how can I connect the alternator and eliminate the use of the regulator part. I was watching a video that you posted where you explain the different connections. This regulator has only 3 connections AR, FL, and BAT. My alternator is the same as in your video with 3 exits. How should conect it ? , Hopefully you can help me.
good job
great video
At the old Voltage regulato terminal do I jump it like you showed? (1-4, 2-3)? Cus a website i was following said to jump 1-3 and 2-4
Do you have to buy an new altenator or use the same one
Great video. Mine is a 1962 Nova that was half way converted to a internal voltage regulated Altenator. The voltage shows 14.4 volts when running but the wiring needs attention. Have a pic of my wiring. Can i post it from comments?
"Unplug your fricken battery"
Said with the tone of voice of someone who knows exactly why you do that.
I do too...haha
I did install new alternator & have it wired thru the OG-stock regulator but it still has a voltage drain at the hot alternator lug? I seen you use a diode & thought maybe that is the solution? Could you tell me what is the amperage/size diode I should use, or other solutions? I did a diode test between cable & battery, it did work but not sure it won't burn up as I start vehicle? Thank you.
That's actually an awesome hack
So I just did a engine swap in my 70 Nova, from the original inline 6 250, to a vortec I pulled out of a 99 tahoe.
I am having issues with it charging, I did almost everything you did, except my alternator only has one smaller brown wire coming out of the clip, besides the red cable going to the positive side of battery.
I connected the brown wire from the alternator to the original blue wire, my GEN light is only on when the key is ON, but turns off after I start the car. Once I start the car; it only charges just over 13 volts. Is that good? I am not getting 14+ volts like you are.
Hello Chris, thanks for the video! I had a question. This video mentions swap connector and then connector it to the alternator. However your other video you disregard the F1 on the alternator when it came to your Chevelle. I am also working on a 1970 Chevelle so do I wire F1 or not?
my chevelle has a ammeter in the dash.. no gen light.. my chevelle does have F1 hooked up with a diode.. watch my gm 3 wire hook up alternator video
Thank you
I did the 1 wire alternator and this conversion and it charges but now the car squeaks when the 12v plug is plugged into the back (when its off, it doesnt squeal), and my stereo has some type of whining noise now too..
When I take the red wire off the back of alternator both of these issues are fixed.. but no charging. Any thoughts ? Thanks!
Great video. But the new alternator I bought has 4 prongs instead of the old 2. I don't know which 2 to go to. And it's American from an alternator shop. What do I do?
Thanks sir great.
Great video Chris, this should work for my 1969 C10? My truck is a 250 straight six on a 12Volt system with external voltage regulator?
Raul Garcia did it work for ya
Very detailed video, good info! Can this be done to a 70 C10?
same thing
What 140 Amp alternator should I use on my Chevelle when I convert to a 1 wire alternator?
Do what your saying is unplug the white wire going into the alternator and hook my jumper wires back up as shown in the video?
+Blue Suzuki unhook #1 wire from alt and figure out why it's on with the key or hot all the time... it is supposed to come on with accessories... watch the 3 wire video
Thanks
I have a ‘66 Chevy and bought it a new starter, alternator, and alternator regulator. the battery kept dying over time. Checked for drains but there wasn’t any. The alternator wasn’t giving the extra 2 Vs, so we bought a new one. New one didn’t either. I’m trying this out. Thanks
I have a 67 impala, did this set up work for you?
Yeah, however, I had to change the brackets so that the new alternator would have a good fit
@@MexicanJesus1998 Hey, where did you get your brackets for the new alternator and the jumpers from?
@@clearedhot6146 Not too sure about what you mean with the jumpers. I guess any auto parts store. And the brackets I had to improvise with some scrap metal I had around
@@MexicanJesus1998 I thought you had to get some alternative brackets to fit the new alternator and jumper wires appear to be flat which seemed to allow the wires to slip right into the slots. All of the ones I've been seeing appear to be round on on the end
Hey man what gauge is the double jumper cables u made ?
Hey Chris,
Picked up a 69 Chevelle SS 396 last week. Ahhhhh the memories and ahhhhhh what I've forgotten!!!🤫
Ok so someone had installed a chrome alternator. (Wow) talk about overheating!!🙄
So it's the old school with the 2 wire plug || .... It still has the regular in the original position by the headlights however I called Summit and they said the alternator I have with the 2 wire || has an internal voltage regular. It does have a Serpentine belt pully.
Have I lost my mind or did some 16 year old get over on me? 😬
Anyhow, need a suggestion or link to a video to test if the old regular is still hooked up..
Thinking about just rewiring the damm car! 😐
Thank you for your video's. Getting "older" sucks at times!!
👍👍👍
jump the plug like this video and remove the regulator. You don’t need it in any way. you don’t want it, either ….
@@chriscraft77022 Ty👍
Just here to say thanks
@Chris Craft I'm considering doing this on my 69 Pontiac Grand Prix do you know if this would be the exact same for a Pontiac I have 2 wires on the bat terminal on the alternator I think the second wire is a fuse able link I see you only have one wire going to your bat terminal on your internally regulated alternator ?
yes connect those 2 wires to the lug BAT on the new alternator.. it could be an ammeter lead if it has a fused link.. it may be wired different from my chevelle but will not hurt anything.. the main thing is not getting an alternator over 75amp output
@@chriscraft77022 ok thanks appreciate it
can u show a video how to reaplacemant the fuse box on 1970 chevy Monte carlo
Can this be done on a 1970 Buick skylark?
do the wires going to the voltage regultor need to be rewired like u did in the beggining of the video if the number two wire is going to the positive on the alternator?
jordan lumbreras yes for your gen light to work
Looking to upgrade my 66 Buick alternator will this work
I was able to replace alternator and battery with new ones but still not charging battery. I disconnect battery and engine turns off, I check with meter and reads 12.5 v with engine on but that's what the battery reads too so nothing higher when engine is on. Can this regulator prevent power or alternator from charging battery?
Do you always work on you car by candle light?
Is this the same for 60s Mercs?
Does this also apply to a 71 cutlass because I tried it and my GEN light is constantly on ,even with the car off then when I turn the car off atg the switch it continues to run until I disconnect the jumper from the blue wire
+Blue Suzuki if it doesn't work your wiring has been messed with... watch my 3 wire alt hook up
Blue Suzuki i wonder can twist the wires together from the regulater. or do u have jump plug with wires
So the guy I bought my truck from he had cut a lot of wires and added more for the CD player and an amp and other stuff like that but and I figure out most of it and tapes it to make it look nice however I didn't find ground wire like yours any suggestions???..... also is there another way to connect those wires without a "jump" like just cutting the wires and attaching them or do you recommend jumping it like that
+Tuddle the ground was for the headlights and they have a condenser grounded for noise in your radio.. not related to the conversion
+Tuddle jumping is the easy way.. I have an older video( it sucks ) rewiring harness for internally regulated alternator and then a part 2 explained
Chris Craft right on brother thank you, I appreciate your advice and knowledge
Ok Thanks I well Try
Cool, now when your regulator dies, you can spend 3x as long tearing the alternator apart to replace it instead of just unbolting it from the engine bay. JK, good video
i quit rebuilding alternators like 18 years ago... i just warranty them out at oreilly if they go bad.. externally regulated is NOT the way to go.. the external regulators are over $60 the reman alternator is like $50
@@chriscraft77022 Oh, I agree that internally regulated is great, but when I can rebuild one for $20 with bearings and brushes made in USA, I would rather spend $20 than spend $50 for one that's made in China on my personal vehicle. Internal regulators last a very long time, its just a pain of one does happen to die. For a customer's car, internal is 100% the way to go.
What part number for the best alternator or application do I buy? Thanks!
The beauty of GM alternators is that they're all the same size dimensionally through the 70s and 80s, except for diesels. The easiest way to pick one, is to get one from a truck. 1979 would be a good year. If you have rear defrost or power windows, get a high amp option. If you have no electrical options, a mere 36 amp alternator will be fine.
You'd want a 63 amp or lower from an early 80's squarebody/g body etc.. The optional 80 amp truck alternator is NOT the same dimensions, it requires a different bracket
I set up as You shown but I left in old wires just in case? I have a voltage drain at the alternator that stops when disconnected, I'm not sure if new alternator is bad or why it drains?
is it a 1 or 3 wire?
Will this work on 1967 Cadillac
Chris,
I’m going to change my 1972 Monte Carlo over. On my alternator now has R and F the R is white and F is blue. White is on top and blue bottom. My new alternator is same R on top and F on bottom. Do I switch to Blue on top? Thanks for your support in advance. Big A. From Cartersville Ga.
you need an internally regulated alternator.. (79 Monte Carlo)
Do you recommend upgrading to bigger gauge wiring when converting to 1 wire alternator?
I have a 1 wire alternator video .. it depends on the amps
So you got rid of the old voltage regulator all together since the alternator is internally regulated now?
Yes
Quick question....and thanks ahead of time......The point where you jumper the wires across 1-4 and 2-3....at this point if I wanted could I just cut the plug completely off and directly splice 1-4 and 2-3?
yes
@@chriscraft77022 Thanks very much
Hey Chris quick question by removing the regulator. Will that affect your aftermarket instrument. Would the reason be because the battery is bad
the point is to retro fit with a modern style alternator... nothing was bad.. it is a modern upgrade
Chris Craft I understand do you recommend running new wires for instruments or try to use the same wires. I got dolphins instruments
I put an alternator with Internal regulator on 72 chevelle but never bypassed the externally mounted one. Will this damage anything?
just jump the plug and you will be ok.. i dont know what it does
the easy way
the only thing i have to say is to take time to clean all your clips, because on such an old car, just move them can bring reliability issues
Will thiswork on a 66 mustang v8? If not, can anyone help? My alternators charging at 15 and 14 on idle. Plus my gauge is flickering. Can't figure out why. Any advice anyone?