(OLD) The Disappointing State of Nickelodeon All-Star Brawl 2

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  • @nescartridges
    @nescartridges  Рік тому +9

    my next video will not be NASB related (but it will be Nick related), i just wanted to do at least one NASB 2 video. shame it couldnt be a more positive one but, ah well. hope to see you stick around for the next vid!
    i will potentially do more NASB 2 content in the future when Krabs drops and I still run tournaments weekly in Grinders (link in description.) Hope to see you support this game!

  • @GuiltlessGear
    @GuiltlessGear Рік тому +51

    As slow as the new game unfortunately is, I still think a typical match is more satisfying to watch than another Dair>Dair>Dair>Dair combo in latter day NASB1

    • @TOASTDD
      @TOASTDD Рік тому +8

      yea thats early day nasb not latter lol

    • @mrthanos8140
      @mrthanos8140 11 місяців тому +3

      @@TOASTDDyou mean today it’s just d air over and over correct? That’s all I feel it is. Get them in the air and Bully them. Nothing else is really effective. God I wish I returned this game in time I’m so pissed.

    • @dnasty55
      @dnasty55 8 місяців тому

      Sorry least the NASB comboes looked cooler and it felt like everyone had a 0 to death

  • @kaobunn
    @kaobunn Рік тому +22

    nasb1's speed was to its detriment imo
    it was like melee on crack, and made it unplayable at times
    slower speed doesn't necessarily negate fluid combos in the end
    bugs i can agree with tho, this kind of just happens with game development, when things are changed, things are messed with usually, no clue how it works i just know it definitely happens, especially when patches have deadlines

    • @nescartridges
      @nescartridges  Рік тому +3

      one learns to love the speed but I see what u mean. thanks for watching!

  • @marianokaz1503
    @marianokaz1503 Рік тому +33

    My biggest gripe with NASB2 is the fact that there's no Barnyard representation, like how am I supposed to play this game when there's no Otis nor Biggie Cheese in it!? Where's Ben!??!?!?

    • @DrinkMe2Drive
      @DrinkMe2Drive Рік тому +7

      Literally unplayable

    • @dylansmith5206
      @dylansmith5206 Рік тому +2

      Meh.................
      Who even gives a shit about BarnYard these days????????

    • @Hinokami777
      @Hinokami777 10 місяців тому

      You can’t be serious …… so petty

    • @DARKSTARSPIN
      @DARKSTARSPIN 9 місяців тому

      Meh

  • @adamgregory0343
    @adamgregory0343 Рік тому +20

    Only major disagreement I have with this vid is with the speed, more of a preference thing though. To me NASB1 was just too fast to the point where it felt like I could barely react to anything that was happening, especially against more experienced/serious players. I think it makes sense that NASB2 would be toned back and I do think it feels more balanced in that regard, feels more like Rivals which isn't a complaint from me. I just hope they fix Garfield soon because he's who I was planning on maining.

    • @nescartridges
      @nescartridges  Рік тому +3

      i can see the speed being a divisive take, yeah, and admittedly i didn't explain myself well in that part. my issue with nasb 2 is that it's TOO slow. a middle ground between nasb 1 and nasb 2 (PM speed?) would be perfect for me.
      thanks for watching as always!

    • @dylansmith5206
      @dylansmith5206 11 місяців тому

      Speaking of Garfield
      I still hope that Nick All Star Brawl 2 adds in Snoopy From Peanuts as a guest fighter
      To where we can finally see who is the better Newspaper Comic Strip character

  • @deadlyjello7792
    @deadlyjello7792 Рік тому +7

    The glitches and bugs part is by far my biggest gripe, I love campaign mode but every time I play it I swear I find a new glitch, big or small, that detracts from the fun, to the point where I started making a document about it, as well as general hiccups I encounter. Here's hoping Krabs isn't a buggy mess from the get-go and that patches keep rolling in.

    • @buckboy6769
      @buckboy6769 8 місяців тому

      It drives me crazy you can't use custom controls in the campaign

  • @TessyBluez
    @TessyBluez Рік тому +12

    1:33 i think my biggest problem with speed is due to a mix of the game's slower neutral, super far out blast zones compared to other games in the genre, and even partly everything being so safe, its not uncommon for it to take 90 seconds or more just to take a single stock, and that doesnt even take into account slime bursts. while i think 3 stock would be best for this game its insane to me its still 4 stock when you could arguably make a better case for 2 stock in this game

  • @scooterdoops
    @scooterdoops Рік тому +8

    it is wrong that i think that i thought this video was going to be a lot harsher? i think all of your points are very justified from a TO perspective. i do also appreciate the optimism that all the weird little issues will get ironed out, too. we honestly need more videos like this that show the actual issues going on but are at least tackling it constructively.

    • @nescartridges
      @nescartridges  Рік тому +5

      the devs are good people so I didn't want to be too harsh on the game. it is really polished casually it just suffers from Brawl syndrome rn competitively and I wanted to highlight that

  • @SirSunky
    @SirSunky Рік тому +2

    Even as someone who enjoys NASB 2 a lot, every single one of these things I agree on especially regarding the speed some matches take. I think if burst had a limit of two uses per game or something along those lines it would help a lot (Obviously wouldn't fix everything but still).

  • @TheLeetCasualGamer
    @TheLeetCasualGamer Рік тому +3

    1:34
    Yo! That's me! :)

  • @shayne537
    @shayne537 Рік тому +2

    The first Nickelodeon Brawl was way more better then this, it’s too slow and buggy, I do not like it at all.

  • @Bumble_gum
    @Bumble_gum Рік тому +6

    I pretty much disagree with everything in this video except for the bugs ofc. I don't play at the highest levels, but I do play the competitive format frequently.
    The footage you used to show how slow the game is from some of the heaviest characters in the game. There's no denying that NASB2 is slower, but it's still relatively fast for a plat fighter and feels great once you come down off the nasb1 high. For me it's a much more manageable speed. It also allows for slower moves to have more impact without being extremely binary like NASB1 reptar. Burst is an issue, it might be my least favorite mechanic, but player adaption is happening. People are murdering burst users more frequently and the devs are looking into it from what I've heard. Kill power has also been upped across the cast.
    NASB1's visuals are also so bad that it actually interferes with gameplay. I usually don't bitch about something like this but it is actually hard to tell what's going on with certain moves. You just kind of need to trial and error your way through it. Boxes don't match animations. Stubby silly moves will often send you flying at a rubber bands speed. Which is fucking hilarious and I love it, but I also appreciate the consistency that NASB2 brings.
    Slime is rad and you will never convince me otherwise. Slime enhancing specials adds so much to the game it's amazing. Pat now has super armor on lariat and hug driver. Hug driver is now a constant part of his kit rather than a dumb (forever bugged) binary cheese move. And that's just Patrick's interaction with slime. Bad recoveries are now much more manageable with slime options. You can true combo into potentially anything with slime cancels. It's just fun.
    There's also the common complaint that the movesets are overly similar. Double dairs, fast fall uairs and samey up tilts plague the cast. NASB2 has some similar recovery ladder combos between a few characters, but even those are far more diverse and feel far different from one another than everything in NASB1.
    Also Pat is bugged and I'm a Pat main. At least Garfield will definitely be fixed. Pat has almost 0 hope.

    • @nescartridges
      @nescartridges  Рік тому +4

      cool

    • @Bumble_gum
      @Bumble_gum Рік тому +1

      @@nescartridges sick even

    • @Wabbit_Not_Here
      @Wabbit_Not_Here Рік тому +3

      Honestly don't disagree with any point given here, i agree more with you than the dill herself LuL

    • @nescartridges
      @nescartridges  Рік тому +1

      you didnt even play the first game bro i know you LMAO

    • @MasterArachid-mo4yn
      @MasterArachid-mo4yn Рік тому

      @raphfriends7392 You sound like a homosexual.

  • @Aszaxa
    @Aszaxa Рік тому +2

    Despite not owning this game yet, I learned a lot from this. I still wanna get it for the campaign, but something is telling me to wait a bit longer (though it's an instant buy if they ever add Ickis or the Gromble)

    • @dylansmith5206
      @dylansmith5206 11 місяців тому

      Speaking of Ickis and The Gromble
      Still hope that those two are added to the game
      Plus Bring back Oblina
      Plus make Krumm a playable character

  • @goofydvani
    @goofydvani Рік тому +4

    I would love for you to make a video about your opinion on slime in NASB 2, I feel like it’s a mechanic that you either love or hate lol 😂

    • @nescartridges
      @nescartridges  Рік тому +5

      it would be like a 40 minute video theres so much shit to cover hahaha, maybe someday!

    • @goofydvani
      @goofydvani Рік тому

      @@nescartridges Yeah I feel you on that lol, do you have your own discord btw? I was just wondering cuz I genuinely don’t know 😂

    • @nescartridges
      @nescartridges  Рік тому +1

      @@goofydvani It's linked on my website! (In description)

  • @rustyp69
    @rustyp69 10 місяців тому +1

    honestly I think the biggest thing holding NASB 2 back is the reputation NASB 1 has as basically a terrible game. I love both games, but it's undeniable that NASB 2 is a huge step up in overall quality, while also being a step back in hype and success. Gamemill kneecapped themselves by releasing NASB 1 in that state. nobody wants to spend 50 bucks on NASB 2 cause they felt ripped off by NASB 1. because of that NASB 2 was almost dead on arrival for casual players

  • @papouligaming9594
    @papouligaming9594 Рік тому +5

    I feel like the speed and unbalanced nature helped make 1 fun and special, really standing out from it's contemporaries in the genre. Now I feel like NASB 2 sacraficed the identity of the first game and what made it special in response to people's criticisms of NASB 1, turning into basically another generic crossover platform fighter.

    • @sonic_jukebox
      @sonic_jukebox Рік тому +11

      Saying it's generic is wild. The game basically revolutionized the genre with it's slime meter mechanic and many people want other platform fighters to incorporate something similar

    • @nescartridges
      @nescartridges  Рік тому +1

      @@sonic_jukebox i wouldnt say it revolutionized the genre seeing as the game is two months old but i do agree slime helps it stand out from the pack. is it enough tho? stay tuned....

    • @kaobunn
      @kaobunn Рік тому +1

      did we play the same game? the speed was really bad, it was like melee on crack
      not to mention nasb1 was ONLY made with competitive players in mind and lacked content
      if you find nasb1 to be better I can't really take you seriously tbh
      i personally would never return to that game

    • @nescartridges
      @nescartridges  Рік тому +1

      @@kaobunn i mean that part about it being made with only comp in mind is objectively wrong cuz like i know some of the devs personally but you do you dude lol

    • @dylansmith5206
      @dylansmith5206 11 місяців тому

      Speaking Of NASB 1
      Please Someone bring back these characters
      Catdog
      Helga
      Hugh Neutron
      Leo And Mikey From TMNT
      Lincoln Loud
      Oblina
      Powdered Toast Man
      Sandy
      Toph
      Ect....................................................................................................................................

  • @MasterArachid-mo4yn
    @MasterArachid-mo4yn Рік тому +3

    I spent 80 dollars on this shit man lmfao

    • @RedRubey
      @RedRubey 11 місяців тому

      And you could’ve gotten the ultimate edition for $47 dollars jf you waited until December like me 😂

  • @jamesminer7398
    @jamesminer7398 Рік тому +1

    Yeah its the bugs for me. Yesterday practice mode crashed on me 4 times. I really feel like I have to drop it and wait because this game is still in beta.
    On a different note: this game made me really appreciate platform fighters as a whole. Like, i enjoy smash bros from a whole new perspective, and it's all because of slime meter.

    • @johnplatz3503
      @johnplatz3503 Рік тому

      For the game crashing, I feel your pain.

  • @sonicxd4304
    @sonicxd4304 Рік тому +1

    I never played this before, but my biggest complaints are how slow the game looks and the character cuts. The first game was fast paced, but in this, it looks slower. And the character cuts are what makes the roster awful, to me at least. If it weren't for the cuts, the roster would be fine, because there are still 25 characters, meaning the newcomers are actually replacements.
    Besides those, everything else is fine.

  • @jacksonflint4361
    @jacksonflint4361 Рік тому +3

    I love this game but I hate the move towards being more of a smash clone. It irriates me that whenever a new platform fighter comes out gamers complain about it not being exactly like smash brothers, because there's room for diversity in this genre but people seem to rag on any game that tries to make new and interesting changes to the formula. It also doesnt help that smash is ome of the most Triple AAA franchises that exists and no other platform fighters will ever have the manpower and the funding that smash does, so it's a very unfair comparison to make.
    I think this game strikes a good balance between keeping things fresh and new amd making changes for a casual audience of smash bros players, but i hope further updates drive the game further towards being a unique product and less towards being a smash clone.

  • @GasterDogger
    @GasterDogger Рік тому

    Tbf the only thing that dissapoints me about this game is the weird roster choices, like yeah I know ALL Veterans won't return but cutting 2 whole series it's just weird and also the fact that DLC is all heavily repped series just makes me go "UH????"

  • @minicher7984
    @minicher7984 Рік тому

    Tbh I was so hyped for plankton but he honestly feels miserable to play, maybe I just haven’t figure him out yet but it feels like he never turns around when I want him too and his run speed feels more like a walk speed

  • @johnplatz3503
    @johnplatz3503 Рік тому

    You think that's bad? My problem is that the game crashes whenever I do Arcade and Campaign Run. It's driving me crazy. I'm hoping that the new patches will stop the game crashing forever. Has anyone else gotten frustrated with the game crashing?

  • @actsofarsonism
    @actsofarsonism Рік тому +2

    I'm glad to see these critiques but honestly I disagree with alot of these takes. The game being inherently different than its predecessor isn't nessecarily a bad thing, I can see how you might see it as that considering your extensive play time of the first. In my experience though this game is a thousand times better competitively because I can actually play games against people online and the game not feel like complete garbage how the first felt to me. I only played the first one at the beginning as I didn't stick around after the initial experience underwhelmed me. Overall I think the gripes you have are either going to get patched out as the developers take players opinions into account on how to improve the current game. Even just with the depth allowed to the game by the slime mechanics i think ill be playing this for alot longer than the first. Overall I'm not discounting your opinion but I think this is moreso a biased opinion due to your love for the first game, but from someone who didn't really like the first game this new version just seems like a vast improvement to me.

  • @spaceace9103
    @spaceace9103 Рік тому

    Really hate the switch load times and I find many players at lower or much higher ranks when I try online. Also feels like characters have no end lag sometimes

  • @dorkzilla413
    @dorkzilla413 Рік тому

    Yo cool video about some of nasb2's problems that did not make me want to click off immediately
    I just gotta say I heavily disagree with your thoughts on the speed. If it was like the first game again where stocks can be taken off of one interaction across the entire cast it would be hard for someone like me to watch or play. To be honest, I'm glad the game isn't just a light air fest like 1.
    I feel like every character in NASB2 has at least one extremely safe move that make it not even unreliable to just spam them over and over because of a lack of proper endlag or startup so I definitely see where you're coming from with that.
    NASB1 bugs are still way worse to me (they left patrick nonfunctional and dipped i cannot excuse that lmao) but that's likely just because I was a switch player who had to deal with non-functioning moves like sandy lasso not pulling in and insta-kill air scooter for longer. Don't get me wrong, I don't like how broken stuff is in the 1.4 patch either, but 500+ hours on nasb1 switch helped me build a tolerance to stuff like this so I can't really get too upset at it, all I hope for is more thorough testing on moves and their interactions before updates get released.
    Not competitive at all and never will be but I can definitely see how this stuff affects your enjoyment of the game. Don't let my views or anyone else's tell you that thinking this way isn't valid or is wrong. Nick Brawl 1 and 2 are far from flawless and we can still appreciate the games for what they have to offer.

  • @vex_3455
    @vex_3455 8 місяців тому

    A lot of the characters are from the 90s. They should’ve thrown in the heavy hitting ips like multiversus did. Outcome would’ve been a lot different.

  • @Fie0212
    @Fie0212 Рік тому

    I agree with you on the bugs they need to get patched before Mr. Krabs shows up. And the speed I prefer it slower. The first one wasn't fun for me it was too fast. Made my hands hurt. And it wasn't fun to watch someone do the same move over and over again then just finish them off. Nair, wavedash, nair wavedash. Etc.
    If NASB 2 had the speed of Rushdown Revolt or Rivals the speed would be perfect. But overall how it is now is alright.

  • @yukij.8075
    @yukij.8075 8 місяців тому

    As biased as this sounds, my biggest gripe with the game is the removal of Oblina..

  • @hyperstarkage3618
    @hyperstarkage3618 Рік тому

    My main grip is the bugs and balancing I just play this game casually I hope they die address these issues in the future. This game supposed to appeal to everyone. Competitive or just single player, or fun. What’s keeping me playing the game is the character trophies and boss trophies I just want them all. I think another thing was the characters who haven’t returned yet. But background characters don’t deconfirmed characters to be playable. If we get 11 characters back for I will be super happy with revamp moves and new supers. Of course there will be a lot of patching and balancing

  • @dippahh9064
    @dippahh9064 Рік тому +2

    nasb2 would be fantastic if it wasnt FIFTY DOLLARS

    • @nescartridges
      @nescartridges  Рік тому

      Being overpriced is a nick game tradition hahaha

  • @Ppglord
    @Ppglord Рік тому

    Bro the bugs Annoy me to no end

  • @Keeby219
    @Keeby219 Рік тому +1

    i have the game on switch and i love it but man i really want them to fix alot of the (probably) switch exclusive bugs the games very prone to freezing in handheld mode the load time for local 4-player FFAs are still pretty long too im really hoping tthe look into these things come the Mr. krabs update

    • @nescartridges
      @nescartridges  Рік тому

      Switch is a struggle and I considered bringing it up for this video, but I'm not sure if its just a hardware issue or an optimization issue (For reference I play on PC)
      Thank you for watching btw!

    • @Keeby219
      @Keeby219 Рік тому +1

      @@nescartridges it might be optimization issues tbh bcus Jimmy, Zim and Rocko all have a game breaking bug where sometimes (and this only happens when playing handheld) the game will briefly freeze for a literal second when Rocko, Zim or Jimmy summon Spunky, Gir or Goddard respectively. I know the reason for the brief freeze is bcus the games loading those respective assets in real time instead of loading that data while it's loading the characters in but it also leads to a big problem where it can cause the game to freeze and force a reboot!
      I really hope someone passes the memo to the devs cus I'm loving the game so far and the issues I ignored at first but have slowly gotten on my nerves and Ik the switch can run this game the devs just need to give it extra special care cus the first game ran perfectly on switch from what I heard

  • @waffulsyrup6320
    @waffulsyrup6320 Рік тому +7

    I can't believe we lost Gertie slide punch movement and now Garfield has infinite down B
    fr tho solid video

    • @dylansmith5206
      @dylansmith5206 11 місяців тому

      Speaking of Garfield
      I still hope that Nick All Star Brawl 2 adds in Snoopy From Peanuts as a guest fighter
      To where we can finally see who is the better Newspaper Comic Strip character

  • @KevPat92
    @KevPat92 Рік тому

    Keine Kaufempfehlung. Zu wenige charaktere und voll die komischen drinnen

  • @HighLanderPonyYT
    @HighLanderPonyYT 11 місяців тому

    I tried it for free and I still wish they paid me to play this garbo.
    I played through the tutorial and tried some campaign.
    It was utterly "been there done that" with some sluggish feeling controls and the game making it way harder than it needed to be to figure out how to use a custom control setup, plus some UI jank.
    Twas a short one. 😛

  • @grdfhrghrggrtwqqu
    @grdfhrghrggrtwqqu Рік тому +4

    I can hardly take this video seriously when he has 28 hours in the game. Which is nearly the same amount of time he would've spent preparing, editing, and making his video, albeit a little more than that. But you get the drill.
    Too filler, unnecessarily alarmist, drought-type beat. All the hallmarks of a desperation video. But what do I know.

    • @nescartridges
      @nescartridges  Рік тому +14

      I also tournament organize for the game weekly. Also, I'm a girl.

    • @dnasty55
      @dnasty55 8 місяців тому

      You don’t need a weeks worth of hours to figure out this game is weaker than its vanilla version . I agree with the video tho NASB 1 comboes and system was all around better for competing NASB 2 is a casual plat that more forgiving to all players

  • @TOASTDD
    @TOASTDD Рік тому +1

    good movie

  • @KhalilBurston-ok4fk
    @KhalilBurston-ok4fk Рік тому

    Looks like i was right when i said Nickelodeon all star brawl 2 is inferior to smash ultimate. It could have been better if it wasn’t published by GameMill. I am so tired of their half baked games

  • @CJ-ln5ov
    @CJ-ln5ov Рік тому

    Really, UA-cam? I type in “competitive nick brawl 2” and this is the first thing you show me?