VR6 Turbo Build, Must Do's.

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  • Here are some things to consider when building a VR6 Turbo setup. Whether it's a 12V, 24V, 3.2, or 3.6 VR6 this covers a lot of the necessities when turboing a VR6. From headspacer, rods, pistons, valvetrain... what's needed and at what power level.
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  • @PBWB2
    @PBWB2 6 місяців тому +2

    I run 15psi on a Mk4 gasket and non-intercooled on a 66mm turbo, but I'm also on e85. Just found your channel. Now build an 8 valve if you really wanna steal my heart. 🤪

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  6 місяців тому

      Appreciate you joining in. As for the 8v.....hmm lol

    • @malvodahmechanic5074
      @malvodahmechanic5074 Місяць тому

      Sweet set-up 👍🏾 .. definitely agree on the 8v build.. they should go wild and build a g60 turbo😅

  • @nukesploder
    @nukesploder 9 місяців тому +2

    respect from New Brunswick! Looking forward to swinging on down sometime and checking you guys out in person. Thanks so much!

  • @Saltyoldguy-
    @Saltyoldguy- 9 місяців тому +97

    Just a note on the pistons: the reason they blow ringlands like that is due to the very tight stock ring gap. Lots of guys havs really good results using stock pistons with wider ring gaps in the high .020" and low .030" ranges. With the stock gap of .015" pump gas is just too much heat for them at the 500+ mark, and they but together.

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  9 місяців тому +26

      Agreed (to an extent lol), we've done it and still had issues. It really comes down to the fuel being used. The real answer is keeping the knock out.

    • @Saltyoldguy-
      @Saltyoldguy- 9 місяців тому +8

      @@COMotorsports For sure. I do see a surprising amount of people running genuinely 600whp through bone stock motors on full e85 and doing it for a long time. Whether or not they have blown ring lands and send it anyway I'm not really sure lol. But like you said, the main key is keeping heat and knock away.

    • @Aladinscave
      @Aladinscave 9 місяців тому

      Fully agree with you, running boost on std ring gap is playing with fire it WILL break the ring glands it just a matter of time even on a forged piston 🏁

    • @justynnoss2786
      @justynnoss2786 9 місяців тому +1

      Why use stock rods might Aswell throw some aftermarket since ur there

    • @brandonvrt2285
      @brandonvrt2285 7 місяців тому

      agreed, mine mad 602whp on pump e85 on a stock piston and rod setup

  • @1859ddd
    @1859ddd 5 місяців тому

    My dream show car is a Mk1 rabbit with a 12v VR6 with a turbo setup.

  • @BulliKid
    @BulliKid 9 місяців тому +2

    I appreciate this video
    Bullikid

  • @jdubsvr6
    @jdubsvr6 9 місяців тому

    Right up my alley. I'm building one now....

  • @exothermal.sprocket
    @exothermal.sprocket 5 місяців тому +1

    A 2004 Jetta body, some kind of 4motion AWD, a 24v VR6 making 700 horsepower, and a sequential shift transmission. Wouldn't that be a sweet package.

    • @Dexs911
      @Dexs911 5 місяців тому

      That's currently what I'm looking to do, minus the sequential box.

    • @exothermal.sprocket
      @exothermal.sprocket 5 місяців тому

      @@Dexs911 Sounds like a fun project. I love a good manual, but it would be hard to deny how quick a sequential would be, without any drop in boost.

  • @bpturbo27
    @bpturbo27 9 місяців тому

    Turbo vr6s sound insane

  • @tptrsn
    @tptrsn 9 місяців тому +1

    Great video! Question though, have you guys actually seen any situations where the stock rod bolts were the initial breaking point in a turbo VR6 build?
    The reason I ask is that theoretically speaking, the instant of maximum strain on a rod bolt is at TDC on the exhaust stroke. When you add boost, the backpressure in the exhaust port in front of the turbine wheel, and the incoming boost itself depending on overlap, actually cushions the piston at TDC on the exhaust stroke, thus reducing strain on the rod bolts. Presumably you might also add to the top end of the RPM range with the help of boost, so that adds strain to the rod bolts, but I don't know at what point the strain forces actually become higher than they were with the factory N/A configuration. I suspect that rod bolts really aren't necessary at all in a turbo setup like they would be in an aggressive all-motor setup.

  • @propelproject
    @propelproject Місяць тому

    Love babble, please more

  • @Bluepower20vt
    @Bluepower20vt 9 місяців тому

    vr6 hooptie.. yeah go for it!

  • @Dge_Dge
    @Dge_Dge 28 днів тому

    Hi i wondering for a 3.6 VR6 on a porsche cayenne a turbo to gain torque and around 450 hp.
    Witch setup did you recommend for it ? what kind of turbo ? head gasket spacer, upgrade on fuel system and rest stock ?

  • @LOTEK575
    @LOTEK575 5 місяців тому

    Make sure you make them exhaust runners extra long 😏

  • @myrx2
    @myrx2 9 місяців тому

    Please do a ea113 2.0 tfsi build 🙏

  • @SK-ut2cw
    @SK-ut2cw 3 місяці тому

    @COMotorsports what is your preferred head gasket for a 3.2L motor build using 9:1 pistons instead of a headspacer with plans to run 14-28psi? Block will be slightly overbored to 84.5mm.

  • @alexbaseotto3614
    @alexbaseotto3614 Місяць тому

    Good morning, the vr6 3.2 engine without forged, how much horsepower can it resist?

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  Місяць тому

      As much as you're comfortable running :)

  • @thekillergame6319
    @thekillergame6319 3 місяці тому

    How can I gain a little more power? I have a 2005 Touareg with a 241 HP 3.2 VR6 engine.

  • @mikeg8494
    @mikeg8494 8 місяців тому +1

    Whats the average cost for 500whp on a vr6 24v?

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  8 місяців тому

      Depends on quality of parts, labor costs in your area, how you're tuning it, what skills and tools you have.

  • @Chitchatfpv
    @Chitchatfpv 8 місяців тому +1

    I’ve got a mk6 golf r and im just wondering if stage 3 is really worth the money or if stage 2 plus is good enough for a daily.

    • @lukaspriskin
      @lukaspriskin 3 місяці тому

      Dude you are on different movie 😅

  • @jlay25
    @jlay25 9 місяців тому +1

    Have you guys ever done a 3.6 VR6T on a Passat? Is it possible?

    • @josmat621
      @josmat621 8 місяців тому

      I'm tryna boost my 3.6 passat

  • @Jimmy2Times702
    @Jimmy2Times702 9 місяців тому

    Get your notepad out ladies and gentlemen we're about to do some learning lmao #VRSICK 🤣

  • @WavidsWorld
    @WavidsWorld 9 місяців тому

    Hey dave, im pretty sure thats my motor, ive been meaning to get in contact with you as i lost access to my other email.
    I hope we can have it in and pushing over 500 whp by april 😅.

  • @nostalgicrip7715
    @nostalgicrip7715 8 місяців тому

    Hot content 🔥

  • @sleazydubzz
    @sleazydubzz 9 місяців тому

    Looking forward to the day the 3.2 I have sitting gets some lovin

  • @LeandroTagudin
    @LeandroTagudin 9 місяців тому

    Better to drop in lower compression pistons than the spacer?

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  9 місяців тому

      Depends on power. 90% of VR builds really only need a spacer.

  • @SonOvaBoss
    @SonOvaBoss 8 місяців тому

    Hi, I just bought a Audi TT 3.2 VR6. what would be the most reliable and cost effective way to get it to 400bhp mark?

  • @DennisJoanna-s3x
    @DennisJoanna-s3x 26 днів тому

    Smith Frank Hall Jose Gonzalez Ruth

  • @bleezyturbski5096
    @bleezyturbski5096 5 місяців тому

    Hey guys if I turbo the r36 24v wagon and just do a head spacer and uprated head studs what sort of power could i make safely. And also does the r36 passat wagon come with forged pistons on stock block??

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  5 місяців тому +1

      How do you plan on fueling it?

    • @bleezyturbski5096
      @bleezyturbski5096 5 місяців тому

      Errm I'm in the UK we use 95 and 99ron I'll be using 99. But fueling system, e.g injectors fuel pump etc I have no idea guys. Please could you give me some advice i am very new to this vw thing🙏🏾

  • @scottricci7154
    @scottricci7154 9 місяців тому

    A vrhooptie?!?!

  • @ryank2367
    @ryank2367 9 місяців тому

    VrhoopT

  • @lorddrako1990
    @lorddrako1990 9 місяців тому +30

    Now we're in my wheelhouse 💪.
    My stock rods lasted until 30psi, 20* of timing, on e85, and borg s366. So approx 600-700 wtq is the limit or stock rods.
    Stock pistons are good to about 600whp with them being gapped to roughly 0.025". Anything more and you need aftermarket forged.
    When tuning, keeping it a point or two on the rich side and will save the hot cylinders.
    A head spacer/low conpression pistons are only necessary when using pump gas. E85 does not need lowered compression so you get to keep low-end torque when using corn juice.
    The mk3 12v vr6 has a FIBER head gasket and MUST be replaced if turboing. It will not hold pressure well. While the head is out, put new valve seals in and HD springs.

    • @williamhall7446
      @williamhall7446 9 місяців тому

      what about a 3.6 if you would know

    • @patriklenck1735
      @patriklenck1735 9 місяців тому +2

      ​@@williamhall7446 3.6 is direct injected with high compression. Not the best recepie for a reliable turbo build.

    • @williamhall7446
      @williamhall7446 8 місяців тому

      when they do get built though it makes an insane amount of power idk all that is done to the cars to make them reliable with that power but all the videos the car is a daily driver most the time even with the insane power @@patriklenck1735

    • @SimplicityFab
      @SimplicityFab 6 місяців тому

      We’re you referring to 12 or 24v? Besides the last comment

  • @byronn.2885
    @byronn.2885 9 місяців тому +42

    The VR6 is one of my all time favorite engines. They just sound so good with a high flow exhaust.

    • @MycketTuff
      @MycketTuff 9 місяців тому +6

      Way better than any of the popular i6 engines

    • @tylerwightman2315
      @tylerwightman2315 2 місяці тому +3

      They sound amazing for sure! I currently own an Atlas with the 3.6 flavor and it replaced my Touareg that was recently totaled which had the 3.6 flavor in it as well. Very smooth engines that sound awesome when you "feed em the onions"
      Now it might not be the most powerful engine out there but the Acura Vigor inline 5 sounds even better. One of the best sounding engines ever made!

  • @kelevra558
    @kelevra558 Місяць тому +8

    So i own a b5. It started life as a 1.8t with a 5 speed. At 302,411 miles one of the injectors shit the bed resulting in a hole in the piston, tube 3. I bought a 24v vr6 from my local wrecking yard for $460. I did carillo rods, weisco forged pistons with the stock crank. My grandpa has been a motorsports focused engine machinist for 50 years. He has a full blown machine shop in his garage which is less than a mile from me. We balanced the rotating assembly and did quite a bit of work lightening the crank. The largest force difference is under 3oz so, detrimental harmonics are essentially non existent. I used all ARP hardware. I ported the stock head myself, the most aggressive techtonics cams they offer, their dual valve springs, stainless retainers and keepers. Krabifab longitudinal intake manifold as well as their longitudinal equal length exhaust manifold. I went with a Borg Warner efr 8374 which means i had to cut off the external waste gate tube from my $1600 exhaust manifold but the packaging benefits the efr line gives you are absolutely astonishing. Blowoff valve AND waste gate all on the turbo? YES PLEASE!! Worth every penny. Im not a wealthy man. I have a scalding hot wife and twin 6 year old boys. So i bought everything one piece at a time. Took me 18 months to acquire all the parts. I found a 6 speed from a b7 rs4, gpa and i machined an adapter plate, clutch masters twin disc, lightweight single mass flywheel. I kept the OE front diff and modified the rear subframe to accept a 2019 rs6 rear diff. I bought a wavetrac center for the bias adjustability i currently have it at 30/70 and its absolutely fantastic it really changed the characteristics. All ECS suspension arms, fortune coilovers. My subframe bushings are solid billet aluminum, rear diff bushings are poly. It has b7 rs4 brakes from the same car i got the transmission from. I got the car down to 2880 lbs with me in it, absolutely perfectly corner balanced and 52/48 weight distribution. Ive owned 33 performance cars in my life. Every single one i modified extensively. Ive never had a car that felt THIS different after i finished the build. It feels nothing like an a4 anymore in the best ways possible. Other than my 2016 Shelby gt350r its the best car ive ever owned. I do have custom subframe connectors that tie into the custom strut tower braces i made. But no cage. The chassis is so stiff it picks up a wheel pulling into my driveway. Its absolutely unbelievable. I have it on e85 right now and a very conservative tune. She makes 704whp @ 7300 rpm, 590 lb ft with a straight up diesel curve. My dad owns a seriously badass 2018 gt3 rs. My little black 4 door Audi makes it look stupid. My dad was a naval aviator. One of the few Marines who flew f-14s. Yes just like Maverick hes the coolest person i know. He wont ride in my car. He has once. He'll never do it again because i made him puke. He said he blew chow three times in his tenure. I caused him to lose breakfast driving to lake Tahoe from Reno, Nevada where we live. Even though hes 64 that should give you an idea of the raw speed this car is capable of. It sits on 18×10 3 piece wheels with 295/40r18 r888 all the way around. Yes 100 treadwear tires really really helps those entry speeds but they're just 295s. I finished the car 11 months ago, ive put over 12,000 miles on it and all ive had to do is preventative maintenance. Change the fluids. Buy yourself a b5 and vr6 swap it. You dont have to go crazy like i did. An ebay turbo kit and coilovers with good tires will give you goosebumps i promise. Oh, most importantly, the car is on a haltech elite 2500 stand alone ecu. Thats the biggest thing is ripping absolutely every single OE computer and wire out of the car and starting over. I saved 180 pounds in electronics alone.

    • @02honeydew
      @02honeydew 25 днів тому +1

      You should do some videos on your car; you can't say all that and not have some videos on it lol. Not in a position to own a "fun" car right this minute, but the B5 and B6 A4s have always been near the top of my list when I do.

    • @kelevra558
      @kelevra558 21 день тому +2

      @@02honeydew dude all my friends say the same thing. Im in introvert man. I hate the spotlight i hate cameras. Im a business owner, i have an 18 year old son and my lady and i just jad twin boys. The last thing i have time for is filming my cars, trying to figure out how to upload the footage, then i have to see all the morons who drive a fucking Tesla talk shit. I build my cars for me and the people i love. I have absolutely no desire to share what i fought overseas for and worked my hands to the bone for, for people who dont have any respect whatsoever. Not talking about you bro but you know what I'm saying Im sure. I don't have an Instagram, Facebook, none of it. Hey if you are that way, i have nothing against that whatsoever. Its just not for me. And honestly bro, i don't even have pictures of my cars in my phone. My family is my locked screen background, my dog is my desktop background. I get baked with my lady at night, we do our thing and i have insomnia so after she passes out i stay awake watching videos and writing comments that are way way way too long because I'm stoned. But i don't bullshit anyone. I don't see the point in typing lies i don't have the imagination. I could write a badass book if I did that would be a lot easier than what i do for a living. I build cars for a living. My cars are relatively mild and simple compared to what my clients bring me. When you do the work yourself and get most parts at cost you can accomplish some impressive things ya dig? Cheers brother. Don't drive fast, fly low.

    • @02honeydew
      @02honeydew 21 день тому

      ​@@kelevra558Well, I can respect that and I get what you're saying. Either way, sounds like you've built an awesome car for sure. I guess if things ever change/you change your mind and you wanna show what you've got going on, you best post on here in this comment that you've made a video about it so I can watch it lol.

    • @kelevra558
      @kelevra558 16 днів тому +1

      @@02honeydew you have my word brother. Maybe when the offspring are old enough to film. I just dont have the patience and or time ya dig? Like I'm not a dick about it if people want to go for a freeway blast I'll always take them out. Another issue is the amount of times I've...lets say allegedly got scared because a UFO with blue and red lights was trying to follow me and I took off. Its happened at least 25 times

  • @masonzizovski449
    @masonzizovski449 9 місяців тому +19

    Would you guys ever consider making videos recording the process of building an engine? Kind of like what humble mechanic does, I think you'd provide a lot of great info for people building their engines

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  9 місяців тому +22

      If we get as many subs as Humble Ill be more than happy too. Lol

    • @MycketTuff
      @MycketTuff 9 місяців тому +4

      @COMotorsports
      Builds for a purpose like a budget build to go racing etc brings views from people who aren't as nerdy about all the internal details of engines. Go challenge the beard :D

    • @masonzizovski449
      @masonzizovski449 9 місяців тому +1

      @@MycketTuff Agreed! That's the stuff humble never really talks about, could be very useful

    • @Kevin_MK7RSR
      @Kevin_MK7RSR 9 місяців тому +1

      @@COMotorsportsI would pay for a full-build course alla’ Horse Power Academy

    • @greapsoho
      @greapsoho 8 місяців тому +1

      ​@@COMotorsportsyou ever think about a build on patreon or members only UA-cam? I'd gladly throw out a few bucks for an in depth engine build.

  • @mattlarson9897
    @mattlarson9897 9 місяців тому +11

    Can't wait to see you push the stock VR. You should call it the VRTurd.

  • @KodiakBurner
    @KodiakBurner Місяць тому +3

    I'm currently building a 12v VRT here in coloradi springs! I should have everything needed with this week to begin. I'm both scared and excited.

  • @europeanfwd
    @europeanfwd 7 місяців тому +1

    44psi good, 45 psi engine very bad.
    But got my stock block 12v down to 8.35@157mph

  • @Saltyoldguy-
    @Saltyoldguy- 9 місяців тому +5

    In regards to the cast cranks, been in the facebook groups for almost a decade now and have seen them fail in cars. Usually upwards of 5-600+ to the wheels and experiencing detonation. Also seen a lot of experienced tuners use cast cranks in close to 4 digit builds perfectly fine. It seems the cast cranks just aren't able to hold detonation very well, which still isn't good but is different than "you can't use these ever."

    • @Dnyeal
      @Dnyeal 9 місяців тому

      Thanks for this insight. I wonder if a girdle would help hold it together

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  9 місяців тому +3

      If you know or see of any cast crank failure stories do you mind sharing? Appreciate the info.

    • @Saltyoldguy-
      @Saltyoldguy- 9 місяців тому

      @@COMotorsports Yea I can. Unfortunately Facebook is not the greatest with finding old posts. I definitely remember seeing 2-3 posts in the 2 years or so about people in BUB/MK5 motors windowing their blocks at not that crazy power levels

  • @juanrabie6712
    @juanrabie6712 4 місяці тому +1

    How much boost can a competely stock 12v vr6 handle safely

  • @MECHANICCHRIS
    @MECHANICCHRIS 9 місяців тому +5

    We need a much longer video with some brand specifics for build parts. Really enjoy hearing your guy's opinions and what has TRULY worked for you on the dyno. Thanks Guys!!

    • @LOTEK575
      @LOTEK575 5 місяців тому

      Do some research instead of regurgitating someone else’s opinion.
      None of this is factual. At all. Lolol.

    • @xDismosis
      @xDismosis 5 місяців тому

      ⁠@@LOTEK575a lot of it is factual, i kinda get what you mean like a lot of it is just opinions and preferences but saying NONE of this is factual is really making you look silly

  • @eviltechracing
    @eviltechracing Місяць тому

    Quick question, I'm building a 12v and have a head spacer (9.5 compression) schrick 288 cams, what size injectors do you recommend? I have ID1000 but not planning on running e85 anymore, I have a local gas station that sells 100 octane at the pump

  • @gregoryh4601
    @gregoryh4601 Місяць тому

    Sir I have a 3.6l VR6 2017 Porsche Cayenne base only 43k . I trying to have someone build me a Set of Headers and then Install Headspacer then last Rear Turbo to keep my Engine Bay Cooler. So I volunteer my Engine. 😅😂🤣

  • @nicperen6814
    @nicperen6814 9 місяців тому +3

    You mentioned head spacers but when using forged pistons that lower compression is a head spacer still necessary? I guess a better question would be: what compression ratio is recommended for pump gas as you mentioned?

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  9 місяців тому +1

      Lower comp pistons, no need for headspacer. It's just used to lower compression.

    • @mikel1804
      @mikel1804 9 місяців тому

      ​@COMotorsports The head spacer is a great option though, as it makes the VR a non interference motor. So maybe take that into account when making your purchase.

    • @petepratt9126
      @petepratt9126 9 місяців тому

      never thought about the spacer reducing the interference. That is a thought. How much of a spacer would that require? @COMotorsports @@mikel1804

  • @michaelw4620
    @michaelw4620 7 місяців тому

    Ferrari have a brand but they build (like all Italians) beautiful junk. Thanks it. No engineering prowess what’s so ever. Any real car engineering company knows this.

  • @j.m.5995
    @j.m.5995 Місяць тому

    How about that turbo 2.5 VR6 out of Chinese suvs?? Any thoughts

  • @jessytremblay3867
    @jessytremblay3867 9 місяців тому +2

    I'm in the process of boosting my VR5, here in Canada. Pretty straight forward

  • @garvysgarage
    @garvysgarage 9 місяців тому +1

    “Never boosted a 3.6 yet” looking at you Alex

    • @arnick1993
      @arnick1993 9 місяців тому

      Yeah yeah yeah, it's sitting here and will end up dropped off at some point haha

  • @Jimmy2Times702
    @Jimmy2Times702 9 місяців тому +2

    Let's Gooooooooo boys!!! Hell yeah. Another super dope video. The videos are getting better and better. So much knowledge. Thank you and the team for all the hard work. I think I commented on a video or 2 back asking you guys to build vr6 and my prayers were answered 🤣 can't wait to watch all the episodes.

  • @wangson3241
    @wangson3241 2 місяці тому

    You forgot upgraded cooling radiator and oil cooler and a baffled oil pan if track racing. Learn from my experience

  • @thirdgeargrind8033
    @thirdgeargrind8033 9 місяців тому +1

    Just want to add, you can use stock head bolts with a head spacer. HPA uses them even with a 5mm head spacer plus 2 full gaskets, and have had no lifted heads on their 780ftlb of tq builds. ARP head studs should be a requirement for 800+.

  • @stevebez9556
    @stevebez9556 9 місяців тому +2

    I’ve got an A3 8P BDB motor and from what Ive read has a forged crank 🤷‍♂️ “same” motor (BUB) used in R32 IV/V. Is there a way to definitively say if the crank is cast / forged? I always was under impression it was forged and not given it a full inspection 🙈.
    Going with 9.25 compression JE’s with MaxSpeeding H rods (with 2000 Arp’s), plus headstuds, and adding a brace plate as well. Pretty much using HPA inlet / exhaust and BW EFR92/74 turbo, cnc ported head, Newman cams, supertech valves, EcuMaster, Deka clutch… so gone the whole hog here. Looking to run 750hp … fuel will always be 99 RON … any advice for the build to make so sure I dont trash all this expense!!!?

  • @tunasub4167
    @tunasub4167 9 місяців тому +3

    Im building a boosted 12v in a mk2 golf right now. I'm getting close to being finished. I didn't do apr rod bolts or upgraded pistons, though. Hopefully, with the united motor sports tune I can get close to 400 wheel hp. Also got 2 spare engines and an extra transmission 😅

  • @damianp.427
    @damianp.427 9 місяців тому +1

    the pistons in this video are the 2.8 24 or 12 valve ? also, are 3.2 mk4 pistons have the same weak points. ?

  • @MrLarge87
    @MrLarge87 Місяць тому

    Hello I really love your videos!!! I want to install a turbo for my VR6 2.8 12V, but I want it for daily driving. Can you recommend me something? Wich turbo can I use?? Is it necessary to change the pistons?? Thank you ver y much four your help!

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  Місяць тому

      @@MrLarge87 no problem to daily a turbo vr. Quality of parts make a difference on how reliable a setup can be.

  • @TimLemonn
    @TimLemonn 5 місяців тому +2

    Appreciation from the U.K.!

  • @someblokeonthenet
    @someblokeonthenet 9 місяців тому +2

    Interested how you deal with the timing chain for the cams... I used a 3.15mm spacer to drop CR to 8.9:1 but it was enough of a lift to mean I had to make a couple of mods to the top chain cover and chain guide to get it to fit where it had pulled the chain up enough to make the tensioner guide catch the cover...
    I know on the HPA kit where it drops the CR to 7.5:1 they supply a chain with an extra link... is this something you do or anything you would recommend to do to mitigate the inevitable chain fun and games?

    • @someblokeonthenet
      @someblokeonthenet 9 місяців тому

      should mention its 3.2 24v VR

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  9 місяців тому +1

      We sell/use spacers that do not require any modifications to the chains.

    • @someblokeonthenet
      @someblokeonthenet 9 місяців тому

      @@COMotorsports ah OK... What thickness and CR are they?

  • @MrDeronsimpson
    @MrDeronsimpson Місяць тому

    What’s Best size head spacer for 400 hp?

  • @CruzanRastamon
    @CruzanRastamon 7 місяців тому

    I kinda disagree with what was said in the beginning. Yes knock/detonation is caused by poor tuning (this is why having a standalone is important. Failsafe would’ve saved it) but forged pistons are not gonna stop knock/detonation. I’ve seen forged blocks go just as quick. The weak link no matter what will always be rod/journal bearings. Stretched rod bolts. What I disagree with is the HP numbers. I’ve seen 800hp with just spacer and rod bolts. All on a 12v but that power is useless in a FWD car hence why most who are at that and above are usually awd. I don’t say this after building one VRT. I’ve built plenty in my 30+ yrs in the game. 23 as a shop owner. I have a VRT that’s been seeing 30 lbs of boost for 17 yrs without opening it once. Went through a few turbos and a few trans. That’s due to a good build and good tuning. My point is don’t think having forged internals with prevent these things cause they won’t. Detonation don’t give a shit what you got inside. I’ve seen a few broken ringlands on forged pistons. I’ve seen holes burned straight in the middle of the piston. It all comes down to tuning and setting the failsafes so it doesn’t get to that point. What they do is allow you to set your comp ratio better then a spacer. With the spacer you only have 9:1 & 8:1. Pistons you can do 8.5:1 and so on. It also allows for deeper valve pockets for those running big cams. (288’s and bigger).
    Keep up the good work guys. About time you’re touching a man’s engine. Not that crappy 4 cyl junk. 😁

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  7 місяців тому

      We're talking to 99% of the people that are on YT so although you disagree these are good rules to follow for the average person. We've seen stock VRs make 1000whp that doesn't mean it's partial for the average person. Guys doing stuff like that are much like us with the 1.8t stock engine that we made 600whp. We have the means to get there safely. Regardless of which engine or how many cylinders yes of course knock/detonation will kill all of them without question.

  • @yeahaight5692
    @yeahaight5692 9 місяців тому +1

    For the vr6 you guys should just do a head spacer and run it on pump gas and see how far it can go.

  • @tsras1979
    @tsras1979 2 місяці тому

    Hey Dave so I want to boost my r32, looking to get400-450. so the spacer should be fine?

  • @roguecaptor8734
    @roguecaptor8734 2 місяці тому

    U don't need injectors and fuel pump for 400wheel turbo?

  • @MeltingRubberZ28
    @MeltingRubberZ28 9 місяців тому +1

    Stop putting good videos out like this you're going to make me start spending money 😢

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  9 місяців тому +3

      Can't spend it when you're gone.

  • @DubBoizmusic
    @DubBoizmusic 9 місяців тому +1

    Please do boosted vr5 very interested in swapping one in my 2.slow jetta

  • @freaksturbogarage2973
    @freaksturbogarage2973 Місяць тому

    in Europe we have no problems with stock pistons and stock gaps, obviously we have 95/98/100/102 octane at the pump, it also depends on the EGT and as written in the software, however forged pistons are always a guarantee

  • @AshleysLair
    @AshleysLair 9 місяців тому +1

    🥳👏🎉

  • @isan5243
    @isan5243 4 місяці тому

    I just totaled my 2020 mustang gt😢 thinking about buying a 2003 vr6 24v that’s available near me, if I do I want to turbo it, can you please help or give me a list of parts,atleast 500whp is what I’d like. Just need to calculate costs

  • @Mr.Munchies98
    @Mr.Munchies98 9 місяців тому +1

    U should do a budget 24v turbo build with just headspacer an turbo for us guys who want to do a budget build😅

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  9 місяців тому

      Who's budget are we using?

    • @Mr.Munchies98
      @Mr.Munchies98 9 місяців тому

      @@COMotorsports i meant like using cheapish parts that are readily available, exhaust manifolds, intake, turbo, head spacer, but lets say a budget of 3-4k (yes i know this maybe unrealistic 😅)

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  9 місяців тому

      @@Mr.Munchies98 I understand, but again who's budget are we using?

  • @Chumbucketsecret
    @Chumbucketsecret 19 днів тому

    Hey man do you think I can boost my 3.6 Touareg safely without timing too much money? Reliability is a must but budget is Important.

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  19 днів тому

      @@Chumbucketsecret budget and reliable typically don't go together. Nor does budget and boosting a 3.6. Find another vehicle or find more money.

    • @Chumbucketsecret
      @Chumbucketsecret 19 днів тому

      @@COMotorsports ball park an estimate on what it would cost? My buddy said 25k…I was thinking more..10k? 15 max.

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  19 днів тому

      @@Chumbucketsecret Depends on your skill level, how much you can fabricate yourself, quality of parts used.... it will not be cheap even if you did EVERYTHING yourself. Again boosting a 3.6 will not be cheap. Tuning alone will be a hurtle.

  • @oleksandrmenko5276
    @oleksandrmenko5276 7 місяців тому

    Never heard about the mk5 r32 crank cracking but I have heard from a German guy who has 1200hp turbo vr6 that he is using a crack from a 1st gen VR6 (AAA) corrado motor and mk3 gti VR6. The mk4r32 vr6 crank starts to crank at around 800whp

  • @barrytunzelmann6010
    @barrytunzelmann6010 6 місяців тому

    Good video. I am about to embark on a 550WHP (approx) 3.2 into a 2001 S4 B5 manual. Learned a lot and will do rods, pistons and a good head. Flywheel and adapter is probably the single biggest $$$. Probably go with Holset Cummins turbo at around 18-22 boost. Pick N Pull has my motor for $349CDN complete from Toureg.

  • @krasimirdavidov4639
    @krasimirdavidov4639 9 місяців тому +1

    How much can the factory Intake manifold take in regards to boost? 3.2 bhe Its plastic and long but it hides the turbo view pretty well so I'm wondering if it can be used until some limit

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  9 місяців тому +1

      Haven't pushed one, I wouldn't bother the effort to build a turbo kit around something that's going to fail doesn't make sense. Cause when it fails you're redoing intake and charge piping to run a short runner.

    • @krasimirdavidov4639
      @krasimirdavidov4639 7 місяців тому

      @@COMotorsports makes sense, after seeing how the two turbos position i'll need a short runner either way, thank you for the reply!

  • @Jeremyd3sa
    @Jeremyd3sa 6 місяців тому

    I have an R36 Passat wagon coming to Edmonton in the next couple of weeks. Would love to bring it over to you guys some day... although it sounds like boosting will be quite a bit more complicated vs. the 3.2.

  • @isaacallen7102
    @isaacallen7102 9 місяців тому +1

    Thanks for this video🙏🏾🙏🏾🙏🏾

  • @blackicekck9family379
    @blackicekck9family379 4 місяці тому

    I’m looking to build a vR6 3.6L v2 atlas se

  • @williamhall7446
    @williamhall7446 9 місяців тому

    I have a 3.6 4 motion wagon b6 passat and i really wanna boost it but im broke lol, they hold way more and make more than a 3.2

  • @nah4got
    @nah4got 9 місяців тому

    You can boost my 3.6 Passat lol 2015 sel premium:)

  • @billasohyeah
    @billasohyeah 9 місяців тому +1

    Excited to watch the how far a stock VR6 Will go

    • @LOTEK575
      @LOTEK575 5 місяців тому

      These aren’t the guys to watch.

  • @BEYTEK
    @BEYTEK 9 місяців тому

    600bhp mk5 r32 snap crank. 2.8 crank to make an R30 is the way to go here in europe

  • @dubCanuck1
    @dubCanuck1 9 місяців тому +5

    So if you were planning on forged pistons, would it make sense to just get lower compression forged pistons and not need a head spacer?

    • @Saltyoldguy-
      @Saltyoldguy- 9 місяців тому +1

      IF you need the pistons. Otherwise stock pistons are more than adequate for most 500whp builds

    • @E36_kidd
      @E36_kidd 9 місяців тому

      it depends on on the fuel you plan to run

  • @ukwan
    @ukwan 9 місяців тому

    Looking forward to watching a VR6 piston explode and a rod exit the block soon 😮

  • @g.cooney6599
    @g.cooney6599 Місяць тому

    I just watched this. My future plans are build either a 2.5l 5 cylinder with a double overhead cam head and turbo (with a 5 speed) and a stand alone tune or a VR6 with a turbo and a tune ( and a 5 speed ). Either would go in a 2003 EuroVan camper. I am aiming for better than stock power and good highway fuel economy. To wow the crowd I’d find an Audi SR3 and mate that engine up to a 5 speed ( that will probably blow up! ). I also have to hit
    the lottery to afford this!
    Thought you would enjoy this train of thought of mine.
    Cheers,
    G.

  • @nolahahnshouse3389
    @nolahahnshouse3389 9 місяців тому

    I was planning on doing this to the vr6 corrado I had but to many problems with the car to keep up with so I ended up selling it last year.. kinda disappointed that I sold it now 😅

  • @dasauto44
    @dasauto44 9 місяців тому

    I wish you guys had a shop in Massachusetts. I wanna donate my 2017 gti

  • @markchubaruk1185
    @markchubaruk1185 9 місяців тому

    Is it possible for you guys to do a video on swapping a vr6 24v in a mk6 golf tdi ?

  • @randybriscoe5084
    @randybriscoe5084 8 місяців тому

    USA VR5 in my friends 2006 Rabbit

  • @acefighterpilot
    @acefighterpilot 9 місяців тому

    Really appreciate you fellas getting this out. Any notes on 2618 pistons with regard to drivability, cylinder wall wear, or piston longevity?

  • @spikester-yy2lf
    @spikester-yy2lf 3 місяці тому

    I so badly want to awd convert and boost my 18 Passat GT. I would love to be pushing around 500 with my 3.6

  • @jkkribeiro9895
    @jkkribeiro9895 4 місяці тому

    do the 12v cranks fit the 24v VR´s?

  • @Daryll_Flaro
    @Daryll_Flaro 9 місяців тому

    Great video. Can't wait to boost my vr. Pistons aren't in the budget unfortunately but I will be running a head spacer with arp rod bolts and head studs. I got my hands on unitronic bt630 so I guess we'll see how that does for now. Thankfully I have access to petro 94

  • @KlkMotorsports
    @KlkMotorsports 9 місяців тому

    Maybe you guys can give some insight. I Have a built 3.2 bottom end stock head. Did 3/8 bolts whole nine. But it does have a cast crank mk5 3.2 engine. I want to make close to 800whp. Don’t know if I should change the crank

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  9 місяців тому

      I believe we discuss this in the video.

  • @josmat621
    @josmat621 7 місяців тому

    I have a 3.6 VR6 I'm looking to boost and I can't find a headspacer anywhere. By any chance do y'all sell headspacers or know any company's selling them for the 3.6

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  7 місяців тому

      do not sorry, the 3.6 is it's own beast to deal with in regards to turboing due to DI.

  • @jonr32turbo
    @jonr32turbo 8 місяців тому

    Mk5 r32 when we turbo them we aim to run them at 480hp @ the crank, when there 500+ @ the crank they have a good chance the crank will let go in the long run, mk4 r32 had a forged crank and mk5 r32 had a cast crank, we have seen afew mk5 r32 cast cranks snap at 500+hp in the long run

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  8 місяців тому

      Do you have instances of actual broken mk5 r32 cranks?

  • @DEATHWISHVQ
    @DEATHWISHVQ 3 місяці тому

    Hello, if anyone could help me, I was watching a lot of VR6 videos months ago, something very interesting I came across (can’t remember which video it was but I’m on a VR6 video streak in hopes of finding the video again)
    basically when the person added the spark plugs, I remember them saying the spark plug had (can’t remember if it was VW recommended or personal) to be torqued to a certain specification where the spark plug faced a CERTAIN direction, so it had a clean flame deflagration (explosion in simple words) it was really interesting to me because it was such a cool engineering explanation and smart technique. If anyone knows what I’m talking about let me know.

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  3 місяці тому +1

      Old school technique, not required on modern day fuel injection.

    • @DEATHWISHVQ
      @DEATHWISHVQ 3 місяці тому

      @@COMotorsports thanks, any idea what keywords I could use to watch a video about it on here?

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  3 місяці тому

      @@DEATHWISHVQ it's called indexing plugs, again nothing I'd waste your time on if you're running any sort of modern fuel injection.

  • @audi_steve8363
    @audi_steve8363 7 місяців тому

    Can I stock vr6 24v be turbocharged without any upgrades to the internals?

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  7 місяців тому +1

      Headspacer allows it to go pretty far in the power department.

  • @MauriceEllerbee
    @MauriceEllerbee 9 місяців тому

    Make sure you remember to do a compression test on the project VR like you wish you did on the 1.8T😂

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  9 місяців тому +1

      Yeah I have to on this one because I haven't heard it running. The 1.8t I at least drove it.

  • @haroldbutler778
    @haroldbutler778 9 місяців тому

    I bought a 2.0t BPY gti engine from canada that im going to build up for my mk6 R. Im gonna do pistons rods new valve seals.. i already have ttrs lpfp modded and the vis motorsport hpfp. I got a big turbo ready to make 500+ crank hp with meth and ill need to find a clutch to hold the power.

    • @haroldbutler778
      @haroldbutler778 9 місяців тому

      Looking for clutch recommendations for 450ish torque range

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  9 місяців тому

      @@haroldbutler778 We offer what you need. You can email us.

  • @jittychitty
    @jittychitty 9 місяців тому

    Please explain... why would upgrading to ARP rod bolts change the inner dimensions and require line-boring? Thanks in advance.

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  9 місяців тому +2

      Different clamping force. No different then squeezing a plastic bottle

    • @jittychitty
      @jittychitty 9 місяців тому

      @@COMotorsports Thank you

  • @zachtaylor3070
    @zachtaylor3070 2 місяці тому

    I wanna see a 2.8 24v build

  • @datruth603
    @datruth603 6 місяців тому

    What about the 3.6 vr6? Would you guys do a turbo 3 6 in the future? It seems like the 3.6 vr6 gets no love

    • @COMotorsports
      @COMotorsports  6 місяців тому +1

      We have one stashed, the reason you don't see many of them boosted is because they're a direct injected engine, unlike the 3.2's. So it adds a bunch of complexity when it comes to fueling and standalone.

    • @datruth603
      @datruth603 6 місяців тому

      @@COMotorsports I see, it would be a really cool build though, hopefully 1 day you guys can pull the trigger on that.

  • @robkoch2485
    @robkoch2485 8 місяців тому

    hell yeah I want to see the VR hoopty.....😮