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I think that's just part of the story. There must be more to consider during all this. Remember, Saladin also spent much of his life during this time fighting wars against Syrians, Egyptians and evaded the blade of the assassins numerous times.
@@sulemanhaider1305 you should also remember that in the eyes of the muslim, arab and persian states, the crusader kingdoms were little more than annoying gnats batting away at them. They had much much bigger and more powerful enemies to fight. The importance of the crusades on the middle eastern world is often overstated by european scholars.
Plus it shows why he was so bad at governing. I'd imagine the 'carrot' of the crusades and the 'stick' of having to deal with his own people propelled him to the Middle East
so bloody self sabotage incompetent like CHRIST Richard was probabbly one of the worst kings of england EVER. literal war against your own father when you are the direct heir just... sigh.
That's the PERFECT description! I can totally imagine John shaking his arms in the air in the middle of a square and claiming he is the new king because Richard pressed the snooze button on his clock twice that day. Lol
Which one? There are numerous takes on Prince John in the many, many iterations of Robin Hood, even though the character is generally the same for all of them. My personal favorite was the one from Robin Hood Men in Tights.
@@patrickmcginty3234 I believe the OP is referring to the Disney animated movie with anthropomorphic animals as the characters. Personally, my favorite is Claude Rains as Prince John in The Adventures of Robin Hood. But that's just because I'm convinced that film is my favorite version of the tale.
Knowing very little about this period of history, I am extremely embarrassed at how long it took me in this series to realize exactly who “Richard” and “John” are. Oohhh THAT Richard and THAT John
It was around this time when Richard was captured by the Duke of Austria, Leopold II when the infamous Robin Hood tale sprang up. Since when rumor of Richard's sudden and unexpected disappearance in Holy Roman Empire reached England, his brother John wasted no time rebelling against the leaderless crown and attempting to seize power for himself; even the King of France, Philippe II Augustus joined in the fun by leading an offensive into the continental Angevin holdings of Normandy and Anjou. Esentially, this is an example of: when a government is so bad that a theif is praised as a better leader.
Yeah. Then after Richard died, John swiped kingship away from the designated heir for himself by allegedly killing him. That being Duke Arthur of Brittany. Then after pretty much making everyone in Britain angry, the penultimate act of revenge aside from Magna Carta, was allowing Prince Louis of France to invade, forcing him to run to East Angelia. He left his son Henry, who became Henry the 3rd after John died in 1216, just one year after the Magna Carta was put forward and signed. Also, you wanna know how Richard 1 died? He got shot fatally by a child archer.
It's more accurate to say this is when the modern Robin Hood tale is set rather than that it was this time that it sprang up. The earliest existing tales of Robin Hood specifically mention the tale being set during a King Edward's reign, though we don't know which Edward, and the earliest known references to "Robin Hood" as a name, regardless of stories, is in the 13th century The podcast Mythillogical, located on The Histocrat's youtube channel, has a really fantastic episode on him!
@@Summer_SnowsYes, the tendency to place Robin Hood during John’s “protectorate” was an innovation of Sir Walter Scott in “Ivanhoe.” Then Howard Pyle took that idea, ran with it, and compiled it with the earlier Robin Hood ballads to give us the characters we know him today.
In my opinion it would be nice to mention Robin Hood, and Magna Carta with the insulation of Disney's film. In many ways John "Lackland" deserved that very nice song "The Phony King of England"
except he reformed english legal code to be fairer to petitioners against nobles, often judging cases himself where peasants tried to sue their lord. He appointed magistrates, judges and Baliffs, set high standards on their education to the detrement of local lords and Barons. His tax policy targeted noble estates and attempted to alleviate the strain on peasants and others. The magna carta and the Barons war set England and probably the british isles more than half a millenia in common law rights, allowing a nobility to continue to dominate and exploit the peastantry and lower classes. His negative portrayl mostly comes from two chroniclers who were already biased towards him, and commisioned by his enemies most likely. History is written by the those with money and its likely the Barons he fought were the ones who slandered him so. The stain on his reputation second is his failure in France, which by all accounts he was a competent general, and just had the trouble of organising resistance from multiple factions who had multiple reasons to not help him. and in my opinion having a negative opinion of a man because he failed to kill other men is not the best modern interpretation of Kings.
Oh yeah, I forgot this is where the Magna Carta comes in. I think it's noteworthy that John was so disliked that all these hundreds of years later that there still hasn't been another King John in England, despite it being one of the most common boys names in English. It is almost as if no English nobles even wanted to risk the idea their son might even remotely be associated with him
@@jam8539 John is certainly a complicated person and King. While he certainly wasn't as competent as his father or brother, he was also remarkably unlucky. That being said, almost none of the plantagenets were particularly good, so John really gets the stick for being worse than an already bad bunch.
Have you ever read the Brother Cadfael mysteries? They’re about the only novels I’ve ever read that are set in this time. The last one, Brother Cadfael’s Penance, particularly covers the political situation, actually including Empress Maud (she’s referred to as Maud instead of Matilda in the series) as a character.
So like... Listening to this I'm reminded of the Disney Robin Hood movie, and remembering how Prince John was always crying about his mother, and that was a nice bit of historical reference. Lol.
John did exactly the same to attempt to defend land on the continent which he then lost anyway. He also imprisoned, murdered and threatened lords and anyone he wanted. So thats why he is portrayed that way
This definitely helps contextualize the famous royals in the classic Robin Hood story. The "evil prince John" taxed everyone to poverty and was prone to corruption... because King Richard liquidated the nation's money to go fight a war for the sake of glory. They both sucked.
That part where King Richard the Lionheart disappears on the way back home to England and Prince John "usurps" the throne along with the ominous music is awesome. Pretty much sets the stage for the tale of Robin Hood and the Baron's rebellion that will write the Magna Carta
Honestly, I kinda feel bad for John "Lackland": Ignored by his family, being forced to take matters in his own hands (of course it was in his own benefit, but it was better than anarchy at that time), and vilified even today.
He was a fourth son, you don't get lands. Boo hoo, he was still one of the most privileged people in the country. The only thing unfair about his general portrayal is he's contrasted to Richard the Lionheart, who was also a terrible King.
Geoffrey, talking about his father plotting against his sons and expecting treason from them because backstabbing each other was the only Angevin passtime, other than jousting: "He knows. We know that he knows. He knows that we know that he knows. We are a VERY knowledgeable family!"
So basically Eleanor was running around after her adult feuding children, and cleaning up their messes. Except she was doing it on a scale that is unimaginable, without any help.
Elizabeth Chadwick wrote an amazing series of books about Eleanor, the Summer Queen, The Autumn Throne, and The Winter Crown. Definitely worth checking out for anyone interested in Eleanor. Her other books are all set in this time period as well.
So, those were Richard Lionheart and John from the Robin Hood? Interesting to know a bit more about them... Also, I love the re-narration of this part of West-European history from Eleaonor's viewpoint... She really was larger than life and a great role model! Great job Extra History! Cheers from Slovenia!
If you liked this episode and want more of Eleanor, Henry and their sons you may want to check out "Lion in Winter" the 1968 film starring Peter O'Toole, Audrey Hepburn, Antohny Hopkins and Timothy Dalton or the 2003 made for TV remake with Glenn Close and Patrick Stewart. They rank among my mother's favorite movies and portray one of the most politically charged Christmases in history.
What this lacks... is a snake named Hiss who 'convinced'/hypnotized Richard to join the Crusade, and John about to suck his thumb when he finds out Robin Hood humiliates him yet again.
Now here is an angle they haven't included in the Robin Hood movies and shows yet. At least not to my knowledge. Robin Hood, agent of Eleanor of Aquitaine.
Of all the Disney movies, the one I always wanted to see get a sequel was their animal version of “Robin Hood.” Given the history, what will the characters do when Richard dies, and John becomes king for real? John’s excommunication, Magna Carta, the war with the Barons. There’s easily enough material for a decent sequel.
@@magicaltour1 With Robin now related to John by marriage? That could have been very interesting. Also, in Disney's animated version it looked like there was no resistance from the nobility to John taking over in Richard's absence.
@@Dreamfox-df6bg Well, we never see any other nobles in the movie, aside from Richard. Perhaps Robin could be a baron himself? It’s an obvious plot thread: Robin’s now a baron, but he’s uncomfortable settling into the role after his life as an outlaw. Then John becomes king, starts oppressing everyone again, has Richard’s son Arthur killed, and finally gets all of England excommunicated. So Robin now has to lead the barons in revolt against King John, and the film ends with them forcing him to sign the Magna Carta.
It is EXTREMELY dubious, even outright incorrect, that Alys was Henry II’ mistress. WL Warren, Henry’s greatest biographer, discounted it utterly. The accounts, apart from mere gossip, of this “affair” come from Gerald of Wales (a compromised anti-Angevin) and Roger of Howden (usually useful but in this case clearly recounting gossip he had heard years after the fact to buttress Richard’s argument to toss aside his marriage contract with Philip II).
I hope Extra History one day does a series on William Marshal, the greatest knight in England. Eleanor should have complained about him being lazy. and eating anything put in front of him when he served as a page in Aquitane..
I second this, william marshal was one of the most fascinating men of the time, the greatest of knights and the greatest of servants to the angevin family.
As soon as I heard “Richard” and “Saladin” in the same sentence, I thought “Wait, Saladin? Richard goes on crusade, no interest in ruling, little brother John… oh yeah, it’s all coming together!
I always wondered what Elanor was thinking during the time three of her sons rebelled. I doubted she was behind the revolt. But why didn't she condemn them, and demand Henry the Young king wait out his life? Did she have some sympathies for HYK since he was already crowned but was still so dependent financially that he needed money from his parents to finance his court? Was she hoping for some kind of political reconcillation?
Whenever Henry II was in England, he didn't give Eleanor's political savvy the credit it deserved. He may have been King of England, but from the age of 15, Eleanor was Duchess of Aquitaine in her own right. It was partly why she took such an active role in raising Richard, so that at least someone in her family would appreciate her. Around the same time Henry gave 3 of the Young King's castles to John, Eleanor found out that Henry had mortgaged off a sizable portion of Aquitaine - HER Aquitaine - to secure a political alliance, without consulting her. That was the last straw for her, and Richard, since Aquitaine was his inheritance.
Henry and Aliénor's resting place, wich is also Richard's, is the Abby of Fontevraud, in France. Happen to be 20min from my home. Love to go there, it's so nice and so rich in history. And the tumbs are really beautiful to see.
No, wait. They have to finish off the Easter Rising series with the Lies episode and music video, then the Pearl Harbor series, then the Frederick the Great Series, then a series on the American Civil War, then the French Revolution.
Have you guys made any videos about Catherine de Medici yet? She would be a fun figure from history to do a series on. Thank you for this series! Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you, friends. ✝️ :)
"...Too late to be known as John the first, but is sure to be known as John the Worst.," that was what was going through my head while taking about John in England. You know, from the animated Disney Robin Hood movie.
This makes me imagine the real reason Richard went off to the Crusades was to have a change of pace from fighting his family. That and compared to his other male relatives Saladin was a cool dude and a lot more trustworthy. :V
Its wild to me how so many different historical figure's can be just a side figure of another's major story. Also just realized this is Robin Hood times lol
This woman's life story, when you think about it is pretty amazing - her son Richard? that's Richard the Lionheart isn't it? (Cue Robin Hood!) and her later years (if memory serves me) became the basis of the film 'the Lion in Winter,' I mean seriously, Wow and that's just two references!
Imagine being a king in a foreign land about to attack another foreign when all of a sudden your mom appears out of nowhere and tells you that you have to marry this woman that she brought along with her. You quickly tie the knot and continue with your plans of attack.
Family infighting among Scandinavian rulers is not looked well upon, not even the great kings who did commit murder against their blood to thin out the succession could shake it off even post mortem
The "Demon's brood" thing about the angevines was mostly a myth, there was a couple of family conflicts but it was mostly a funtional family. Now, the normands in the other hand! William the Conquerer had to fight most of his family tree xD (Bachrach, 1984, "Henry II and the Angevin Tradition of Family Hostility")
@@DieNibelungenliad ... Yes, I meant wars. Three small scale wars in several generations is pretty mild. William I had to deal with five wars himself, so it's clear that the normands were way more prone to conflict.
Eleanor’s entire story screams at me that no one will seek you own interests than your own mother. Richard was right to appoint his Dowager Queen mom as his representative. She was a serious stabilizing force for his campaigning rule of England
I think these videos would get a lot more videos if they weren’t broken up into so many parts. Even as a history fiend myself, I have trouble keeping up with all the parts. If they were all in one or two videos I’d never miss them.
Could you start the video with a short introduction of the the main characters again? It's hard to remember which name was which character, so many names....
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First reply too
Now that we're on the later half of the second series on this very specific time period, can we get some episodes on robin hood?
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There’s a jack rackham video on Richard that goes great with this video
A weird historical fact: Richard I's wife was the only official Queen of England who never once set foot in her kingdom.
Because England was more of an extension of the royal Angevin domain.
@@tibsky1396 it's still cool though
I mean richard never wanted to.
Yeah. Richard I did not like England.
While Richard I was still alive, that is. She did visit England once after his death
This story explains how Richard was a capable commander in battle. He had years of experience while fighting against his father, brothers and rebels.
I think that's just part of the story. There must be more to consider during all this.
Remember, Saladin also spent much of his life during this time fighting wars against Syrians, Egyptians and evaded the blade of the assassins numerous times.
@@sulemanhaider1305 you should also remember that in the eyes of the muslim, arab and persian states, the crusader kingdoms were little more than annoying gnats batting away at them. They had much much bigger and more powerful enemies to fight.
The importance of the crusades on the middle eastern world is often overstated by european scholars.
Plus it shows why he was so bad at governing. I'd imagine the 'carrot' of the crusades and the 'stick' of having to deal with his own people propelled him to the Middle East
so bloody self sabotage incompetent like CHRIST Richard was probabbly one of the worst kings of england EVER. literal war against your own father when you are the direct heir just... sigh.
Its CAPABLE 💩💩💩💩
John has some serious Starscream energy with the whole “the king is dead, now I am the king!”
That's the PERFECT description!
I can totally imagine John shaking his arms in the air in the middle of a square and claiming he is the new king because Richard pressed the snooze button on his clock twice that day. Lol
@@edisonlima4647 "Richard...is that YOU?"
"HERE'S A HINT!" *Slices his head off*
I mean there's a reason Robin Hood is so timeless lmao
Legit accurate description 😂
where do you think they got the idea from for him?
All of a sudden Disney's take on Prince John makes a lot of sense
Nah, Richard was even more of a momma's boy than John.
Which one? There are numerous takes on Prince John in the many, many iterations of Robin Hood, even though the character is generally the same for all of them. My personal favorite was the one from Robin Hood Men in Tights.
@@patrickmcginty3234
I believe the OP is referring to the Disney animated movie with anthropomorphic animals as the characters.
Personally, my favorite is Claude Rains as Prince John in The Adventures of Robin Hood. But that's just because I'm convinced that film is my favorite version of the tale.
@@patrickmcginty3234 I hope this is worth all the NOISE!
@@patrickmcginty3234 And soon, all toilets in the kingdom shall be henceforth known as "Johns". XD
Knowing very little about this period of history, I am extremely embarrassed at how long it took me in this series to realize exactly who “Richard” and “John” are. Oohhh THAT Richard and THAT John
I love history and I didn’t catch that till this episode 😂
Where's the thief and men in tights
Yyyyyup. THIS is the era Robin Hood is set in.
Yep. It’s the era of Robin Hood!
It was around this time when Richard was captured by the Duke of Austria, Leopold II when the infamous Robin Hood tale sprang up. Since when rumor of Richard's sudden and unexpected disappearance in Holy Roman Empire reached England, his brother John wasted no time rebelling against the leaderless crown and attempting to seize power for himself; even the King of France, Philippe II Augustus joined in the fun by leading an offensive into the continental Angevin holdings of Normandy and Anjou.
Esentially, this is an example of: when a government is so bad that a theif is praised as a better leader.
Yeah. Then after Richard died, John swiped kingship away from the designated heir for himself by allegedly killing him. That being Duke Arthur of Brittany. Then after pretty much making everyone in Britain angry, the penultimate act of revenge aside from Magna Carta, was allowing Prince Louis of France to invade, forcing him to run to East Angelia. He left his son Henry, who became Henry the 3rd after John died in 1216, just one year after the Magna Carta was put forward and signed.
Also, you wanna know how Richard 1 died?
He got shot fatally by a child archer.
It's more accurate to say this is when the modern Robin Hood tale is set rather than that it was this time that it sprang up. The earliest existing tales of Robin Hood specifically mention the tale being set during a King Edward's reign, though we don't know which Edward, and the earliest known references to "Robin Hood" as a name, regardless of stories, is in the 13th century
The podcast Mythillogical, located on The Histocrat's youtube channel, has a really fantastic episode on him!
@@Summer_SnowsYes, the tendency to place Robin Hood during John’s “protectorate” was an innovation of Sir Walter Scott in “Ivanhoe.” Then Howard Pyle took that idea, ran with it, and compiled it with the earlier Robin Hood ballads to give us the characters we know him today.
In my opinion it would be nice to mention Robin Hood, and Magna Carta with the insulation of Disney's film.
In many ways John "Lackland" deserved that very nice song "The Phony King of England"
Granted, but the rest of the Plantagenets were hardly good kings
except he reformed english legal code to be fairer to petitioners against nobles, often judging cases himself where peasants tried to sue their lord. He appointed magistrates, judges and Baliffs, set high standards on their education to the detrement of local lords and Barons. His tax policy targeted noble estates and attempted to alleviate the strain on peasants and others. The magna carta and the Barons war set England and probably the british isles more than half a millenia in common law rights, allowing a nobility to continue to dominate and exploit the peastantry and lower classes. His negative portrayl mostly comes from two chroniclers who were already biased towards him, and commisioned by his enemies most likely. History is written by the those with money and its likely the Barons he fought were the ones who slandered him so. The stain on his reputation second is his failure in France, which by all accounts he was a competent general, and just had the trouble of organising resistance from multiple factions who had multiple reasons to not help him. and in my opinion having a negative opinion of a man because he failed to kill other men is not the best modern interpretation of Kings.
A little bonus episode on John Lackland would be awesome
Oh yeah, I forgot this is where the Magna Carta comes in. I think it's noteworthy that John was so disliked that all these hundreds of years later that there still hasn't been another King John in England, despite it being one of the most common boys names in English. It is almost as if no English nobles even wanted to risk the idea their son might even remotely be associated with him
@@jam8539 John is certainly a complicated person and King. While he certainly wasn't as competent as his father or brother, he was also remarkably unlucky.
That being said, almost none of the plantagenets were particularly good, so John really gets the stick for being worse than an already bad bunch.
A series on the Anarchy would be awesome! Empress Matilda is a power player
Yes!
That WOULD be cool.
The inspiration of The Dance of Dragons... Nice.
I need this
Have you ever read the Brother Cadfael mysteries? They’re about the only novels I’ve ever read that are set in this time. The last one, Brother Cadfael’s Penance, particularly covers the political situation, actually including Empress Maud (she’s referred to as Maud instead of Matilda in the series) as a character.
So like... Listening to this I'm reminded of the Disney Robin Hood movie, and remembering how Prince John was always crying about his mother, and that was a nice bit of historical reference. Lol.
Eleanor: “Fine! I’ll do everything myself!”
I like how in Robin Hood, they portray John as a greedy usurper, when in reality it's Richard that raised all the taxes so he could go to war XD
John did exactly the same to attempt to defend land on the continent which he then lost anyway. He also imprisoned, murdered and threatened lords and anyone he wanted. So thats why he is portrayed that way
This definitely helps contextualize the famous royals in the classic Robin Hood story. The "evil prince John" taxed everyone to poverty and was prone to corruption... because King Richard liquidated the nation's money to go fight a war for the sake of glory. They both sucked.
that's always the lesson isn't it: royalty sucks
@@NeverEverFaceTheDark Especially if your predecessor makes a collossal mess which you have to take unpopular action to clean up.
That part where King Richard the Lionheart disappears on the way back home to England and Prince John "usurps" the throne along with the ominous music is awesome. Pretty much sets the stage for the tale of Robin Hood and the Baron's rebellion that will write the Magna Carta
Honestly, I kinda feel bad for John "Lackland": Ignored by his family, being forced to take matters in his own hands (of course it was in his own benefit, but it was better than anarchy at that time), and vilified even today.
He was a fourth son, you don't get lands. Boo hoo, he was still one of the most privileged people in the country. The only thing unfair about his general portrayal is he's contrasted to Richard the Lionheart, who was also a terrible King.
Bruh, Louie lost Eleanor to Henry, only to have his daughter Alice, also become Henry's mistress... MY GAWD
Geoffrey, talking about his father plotting against his sons and expecting treason from them because backstabbing each other was the only Angevin passtime, other than jousting: "He knows. We know that he knows. He knows that we know that he knows. We are a VERY knowledgeable family!"
Hoping we get more of the Plantagenets. There are a lot more really great stories in this dynasty.
Wait, King Richard Missing, John declaring himself King? Is there going to be a tangent on the myth of Robin Hood in the next video?
I'd like that. Maybe a little of Sir Walter Scott's Ivanhoe for good measure
Wow, so Eleanor was *the* mother to Richard the Leonhardt and John Lackland? Talk about surprises!
Nah Elsinore is a town in Denmark and the setting of Shakespeare's Hamlet ;)
@@tokeeriksen2425 My bad! Auto-corrected typo! But that is a very interesting bit of trivia!
I never really knew until this video too. I knew each of this figures individual, but had no real idea of their connection
"Of course he has a knife! We all have knives! It's 1183 and we're barbarians!" -- Eleanor
So basically Eleanor was running around after her adult feuding children, and cleaning up their messes. Except she was doing it on a scale that is unimaginable, without any help.
Elizabeth Chadwick wrote an amazing series of books about Eleanor, the Summer Queen, The Autumn Throne, and The Winter Crown. Definitely worth checking out for anyone interested in Eleanor. Her other books are all set in this time period as well.
I’ll check them out thanks
Yay! New episode of the best history content on UA-cam! 😍😍🍻
Awwww Thank you! You're going to make us blush.
@@extrahistory no offense but it's not a very high bar ngl
I feel like it's important to say John didn't revolt because he was like 6, not cuz he was a daddy's boy
"too late to be John the first, he'll be known as John the worst. Prince John, the phoney King of England."--The Rooster in Disneys Robinhood cartoon.
man this explains a lot about richard and john that too often gets overlooked when people discuss the history around them
I love learning the history around which Lion in Winter is based. Very cool.
So, those were Richard Lionheart and John from the Robin Hood? Interesting to know a bit more about them... Also, I love the re-narration of this part of West-European history from Eleaonor's viewpoint... She really was larger than life and a great role model! Great job Extra History! Cheers from Slovenia!
John: (hearing that Richard has disappeared) Forgive my cruel chuckle! (laughs)
Medieval family politics so intriguing it's small wonder George RR Martin would make books based around this kind of thing 😅
If you liked this episode and want more of Eleanor, Henry and their sons you may want to check out "Lion in Winter" the 1968 film starring Peter O'Toole, Audrey Hepburn, Antohny Hopkins and Timothy Dalton or the 2003 made for TV remake with Glenn Close and Patrick Stewart. They rank among my mother's favorite movies and portray one of the most politically charged Christmases in history.
Katherine's Hepburn.
And it is ENDLESSLY quotable!
Thank you! I'm definitely checking it out.
Was just thinking of that movie 🎬
@@edisonlima4647 Yes! One of my favorite scenes is when they all draw out their daggers, and then Eleanor cries "It's 1192 and we've ALL got knives".
Wow, She was Really a GREAT Empress!!!
Also, very GREAT at doing the SALADIN reference of Richard, Haha 😆
She spent much of her life preparing her children for power only to spend the rest trying to stop them from squandering it.
What this lacks... is a snake named Hiss who 'convinced'/hypnotized Richard to join the Crusade, and John about to suck his thumb when he finds out Robin Hood humiliates him yet again.
I can't believe we get to have two series about the most amazing women in the Middle Ages! The only thing I can say is...
I WANT MOOOOOOORE
her mother in law matilda should then be considered
@@joshuafrimpong244 YES! And Empress Irene, and Isabeau of Bavaria, and the SheWolf of France and EVERYONE LETS DO THIS
@@elirodriguez4411 I'd also nominate Yolande of Aragon that perhaps saved France in it's darkest hour
Now here is an angle they haven't included in the Robin Hood movies and shows yet. At least not to my knowledge.
Robin Hood, agent of Eleanor of Aquitaine.
That would be dope
Of all the Disney movies, the one I always wanted to see get a sequel was their animal version of “Robin Hood.” Given the history, what will the characters do when Richard dies, and John becomes king for real? John’s excommunication, Magna Carta, the war with the Barons. There’s easily enough material for a decent sequel.
@@magicaltour1 With Robin now related to John by marriage? That could have been very interesting.
Also, in Disney's animated version it looked like there was no resistance from the nobility to John taking over in Richard's absence.
@@Dreamfox-df6bg Well, we never see any other nobles in the movie, aside from Richard. Perhaps Robin could be a baron himself? It’s an obvious plot thread: Robin’s now a baron, but he’s uncomfortable settling into the role after his life as an outlaw. Then John becomes king, starts oppressing everyone again, has Richard’s son Arthur killed, and finally gets all of England excommunicated. So Robin now has to lead the barons in revolt against King John, and the film ends with them forcing him to sign the Magna Carta.
Robin Hood: Agent of Aquitaine sounds like an awesome movie title dood.
It is EXTREMELY dubious, even outright incorrect, that Alys was Henry II’ mistress. WL Warren, Henry’s greatest biographer, discounted it utterly. The accounts, apart from mere gossip, of this “affair” come from Gerald of Wales (a compromised anti-Angevin) and Roger of Howden (usually useful but in this case clearly recounting gossip he had heard years after the fact to buttress Richard’s argument to toss aside his marriage contract with Philip II).
Yeah I thought that it was weird that a royal princess of France would become a mistress...
Oh hey, nice to see you here, Dane.
I hope Extra History one day does a series on William Marshal, the greatest knight in England. Eleanor should have complained about him being lazy. and eating anything put in front of him when he served as a page in Aquitane..
Agreed, he has an amazing life story!
I second this, william marshal was one of the most fascinating men of the time, the greatest of knights and the greatest of servants to the angevin family.
Thanks for yet another wonderful episode!!
Insulting the memory of Garcia Ramirez "the Restorer" by calling Navarre a province, UNACCEPTABLE!!
As soon as I heard “Richard” and “Saladin” in the same sentence, I thought “Wait, Saladin? Richard goes on crusade, no interest in ruling, little brother John… oh yeah, it’s all coming together!
I always wondered what Elanor was thinking during the time three of her sons rebelled. I doubted she was behind the revolt. But why didn't she condemn them, and demand Henry the Young king wait out his life? Did she have some sympathies for HYK since he was already crowned but was still so dependent financially that he needed money from his parents to finance his court? Was she hoping for some kind of political reconcillation?
Whenever Henry II was in England, he didn't give Eleanor's political savvy the credit it deserved. He may have been King of England, but from the age of 15, Eleanor was Duchess of Aquitaine in her own right. It was partly why she took such an active role in raising Richard, so that at least someone in her family would appreciate her. Around the same time Henry gave 3 of the Young King's castles to John, Eleanor found out that Henry had mortgaged off a sizable portion of Aquitaine - HER Aquitaine - to secure a political alliance, without consulting her. That was the last straw for her, and Richard, since Aquitaine was his inheritance.
Henry and Aliénor's resting place, wich is also Richard's, is the Abby of Fontevraud, in France. Happen to be 20min from my home. Love to go there, it's so nice and so rich in history. And the tumbs are really beautiful to see.
Vlogging Through History got me into your Eleanor of Aquitaine series and I’ve been binging all the other one’s since. Keep it up!
Wow.... So Richard Lionheart was Eleanor's son, amazing!
I love how "Eleanor is on the road" is given the same weight as "a rebellion and your ex allying with your enemy" 😎
There’s a great children’s book about Eleanor called “A Proud Taste for Scarlet and Miniver,” by E. L. Konigsberg.
Now u gotta do the French Revolution when this series is done
No, wait. They have to finish off the Easter Rising series with the Lies episode and music video, then the Pearl Harbor series, then the Frederick the Great Series, then a series on the American Civil War, then the French Revolution.
nice, I am here, I Always wondered what Eleanor of Aquartine was doing in civ 6
Henry II far more deserves to be a Civ character than Eleanor, even as great as she was.
She's the ancestor of about a third the other leaders
The cat is a awesome general
I can't wait for the next episode, when Robin Hood will show up!
Don't you worry, never fear,
Robin Hood will soon be here!
Have you guys made any videos about Catherine de Medici yet? She would be a fun figure from history to do a series on. Thank you for this series!
Stay well out there everybody, and God bless you, friends. ✝️ :)
Nice Video.
Keep it up!
Missing a single episode of extra history is sacrilege to me
Thank you for the video.
Get your Hoods fellas, it’s Robin time!
This week is a W for history yt
The funnest part of reading henry and Eleanors reign. Reading between the lines.
John every year : next year is our year🤭
Best part of Saturday
"...Too late to be known as John the first, but is sure to be known as John the Worst.," that was what was going through my head while taking about John in England. You know, from the animated Disney Robin Hood movie.
I finally catched a video as it's published
I can’t wait for the next episode love your episodes been watching them for years
This makes me imagine the real reason Richard went off to the Crusades was to have a change of pace from fighting his family. That and compared to his other male relatives Saladin was a cool dude and a lot more trustworthy. :V
I gotta say i love the new thumbnails
5:10 She is wearing Richard's beard 😂😂
I can’t believe that all the things Elenor went through, and it was a lot, lead up to the “Robin Hood” incident.😄
My main takeaway from the video is that the plantagenets all looked like members of a 70s soft rock band...which honestly, I can believe.
Fleetwood Mac, yeah Fleetwood Mac.
*patiently waiting for William Marshal cameo*
This is my favorite series so far, guys.
Its wild to me how so many different historical figure's can be just a side figure of another's major story. Also just realized this is Robin Hood times lol
You know I wasn’t expecting the sudden reveal that these guys are the royals from the Robin Hood stories
And here we get the origins for the fantastic movie that is "The Lion in Winter."
And Robin Hood. Not bad for one person.
at 5:49 when i realised that richard isn't just richard but actually THE LIONHEART HIMSELF, i was so shocked that i had to take a break
This woman's life story, when you think about it is pretty amazing - her son Richard? that's Richard the Lionheart isn't it? (Cue Robin Hood!) and her later years (if memory serves me) became the basis of the film 'the Lion in Winter,' I mean seriously, Wow and that's just two references!
The Lion in Winter takes place during her captivity. That's why she's at the court, Henry has (temporarily) released her for Christmas.
Whoa. I didn’t know most of this history, and this is the a WILD family story and political story. Thanks EC crew!
'John took over while King Richard was away-'
OH these are the monarchs Robin Hood is written about. Shame Eleanor isn't mentioned
Is there a Robin Hood in this history?
Cause of King Richard and Prince John.😸
That would be mythology, not history. But an Extra Mythology video on Robin Hood wouldn't go amiss right about now.
@@paulchapman8023 That would be so cool!😸
There are robin hood stories older than this period. But the most well known version has settled into this time.
@Paul Chapman OSP has a good video about Robin Hood.
Good for you
So in the next episode we'll see a cameo of Robin Hood?
Or Ivanhoe...
So, this is the fertile grounds of regency that gave us Robin Hood, with the rightful King "Lionheart" Richard, and false King John
I want this to be in every school
Imagine being a king in a foreign land about to attack another foreign when all of a sudden your mom appears out of nowhere and tells you that you have to marry this woman that she brought along with her. You quickly tie the knot and continue with your plans of attack.
OH MY GOD IT'S PRINCE JOHN WHAT A TWIST!!!
You guys should do the Sepoy Mutiny of 1857 it is a very interesting topic
More real reason to be called the Devil's Brood: their Viking blood was still thick enough to want to go Viking.
Family infighting among Scandinavian rulers is not looked well upon, not even the great kings who did commit murder against their blood to thin out the succession could shake it off even post mortem
The "Demon's brood" thing about the angevines was mostly a myth, there was a couple of family conflicts but it was mostly a funtional family. Now, the normands in the other hand! William the Conquerer had to fight most of his family tree xD (Bachrach, 1984, "Henry II and the Angevin Tradition of Family Hostility")
Yo family conflicts back then were literal wars not mere arguments
@@DieNibelungenliad ... Yes, I meant wars. Three small scale wars in several generations is pretty mild. William I had to deal with five wars himself, so it's clear that the normands were way more prone to conflict.
@@Artemisa97 do you know that people die in wars?
And suddenly I relize just who John was, it finaly connected.
Nothing a bit of swashbuckling and robbery can't solve...
She has been through so much
Eleanor’s entire story screams at me that no one will seek you own interests than your own mother. Richard was right to appoint his Dowager Queen mom as his representative. She was a serious stabilizing force for his campaigning rule of England
I hope you guys end the series with a Robin Hood reference even though he may not have existed.
I think these videos would get a lot more videos if they weren’t broken up into so many parts. Even as a history fiend myself, I have trouble keeping up with all the parts. If they were all in one or two videos I’d never miss them.
PANR has tuned in.
“Where he suddenly died” seems to sum up a lot of this story
And he shall return, disguised as Sir Patrick Stewart
Or Sean Connery.
“Brother, You have surrounded your given name with a foul stench !” 🚽
Oh, now I know *exactly* what the Lion King was based on.
Hamlet?
@@stevejakab274 Yeah, that makes sense.
Eleanor of Aquitaine show on HBO? Yes please.
Could you start the video with a short introduction of the the main characters again? It's hard to remember which name was which character, so many names....
Awesome! ^_^