All the Arcane, Esoteric, Antique, and Obsolete Tools of Old School Comics Making

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  • Опубліковано 10 лис 2024

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  • @badcrowcomics4516
    @badcrowcomics4516 Рік тому +91

    That fanning multi-point tool is called an isometric divider.

    • @Murdochsk
      @Murdochsk Рік тому +5

      I came to the comments to find this…. It looks like a great way to do perspective without having lines going way off the page…… Amazon has them but there are also sewing gauges that are very cheap that look like they would do the same thing, is there a reason it has to be the type shown?

    • @tomteacher5885
      @tomteacher5885 Рік тому +1

      And the other day, they were conjecturing how I think McFarlane did one perspective way off the page; there's the answer:
      (He swiped matomo who probably used one of those...)

    • @goodoleddy2154
      @goodoleddy2154 Рік тому +1

      You just made my day

  • @Susie_Floozie
    @Susie_Floozie Рік тому +28

    I was a semi-pro letterer in the '80s before digital comics lettering. I enjoyed the hassle of cleaning Rapidograph points and refilling the ink--it made me feel like a mad scientist. But man, fumbling around with that damned Ames lettering device was a pain in the ass! Those guidelines just cluttered up the art, even in blue pencil. So I came up with a better way. I took a page of 11"x17" paper and drew out a 17"-wide solid grid of guidelines calibrated to my preferred line spacing. It was laborious with that damned Ames tool, but so worth my while! I taped it down on a lightbox and did all my lettering without all that dicking around. Nice and neat.

  • @mtcnaz
    @mtcnaz Рік тому +23

    I’d take one of these type videos a week. Never get tired of this stuff

  • @strawmancomics
    @strawmancomics Рік тому +12

    Invaluable information here. Thanks guys. Can we see a series "How to Draw Comics the Kayfabe way?"

  • @andyburk8771
    @andyburk8771 Рік тому +18

    Thank You! Thank You! Thank You! What an absolutely GREAT resource. I bet I'm not the only person who looked back at their early years and thought, "If I just coulda seen this when I was getting started." You guys are a cartoonist's greatest resource.

  • @LanceEads
    @LanceEads Рік тому +6

    Thanks so much for this video! I'm in my 50's and just getting back into cartooning. I did strips for my high school and college papers, taught a couple units on comics as an art teacher in my 30's, and now I'm going to be doing a newspaper strip in a local paper. My introduction to the tools of the trade was the first day of journalism class in high school, when the teacher gave a brief demonstration on how to use a crow quill dip pen.

  • @jacklynch8612
    @jacklynch8612 Рік тому +9

    Most comprehensive tools resource since those two pages in Making Comics by McCloud, long overdue! Thanks so much!

  • @ohwell2088
    @ohwell2088 Рік тому +1

    this is about to be one of my favorite videos on this channel im sure

  • @DaftDude
    @DaftDude Рік тому +12

    Love these equipment guides!

  • @buzzopolis050
    @buzzopolis050 Рік тому +11

    I love these technical videos. Tools, tips, and tricks will always been fascinating. It might be cool to do more documenting of your drawing process, sorta like what Jim did inking. It'd be neat to look at it 10 years from now to see how your technique has changed.

    • @erikwirfs-brock2432
      @erikwirfs-brock2432 Рік тому +3

      American comics definitely need a Manben equivalent of timelapsed videos of different cartoonists drawing a page or two

  • @snowqueen_8958
    @snowqueen_8958 Рік тому +3

    This is what I like using analog art supplies im a big user of paper and pens and penicls and markers

  • @peybak
    @peybak Рік тому +5

    This video is right up my ally. Thank you guys.
    My pops was an illustrator/graphics artists back in the old country, and he once made a nice brush, using some back hair he got from my friend's cat. Good times!

  • @MrSamfonseca
    @MrSamfonseca Рік тому +2

    The graphite holder cap also sharpens the lead!

  • @georgegolston5417
    @georgegolston5417 Рік тому +8

    I love this channel. Your interest in the art of comics. The history of the medium as well as the information you provide like this video is fantastic. I teach illustration and graphics at my local college. The students I have who are interested in comics I tell them to check out your channel. It's great stuff. I tell them the information you two provide does not only cover comics but illustration. This is a Great Channel!

  • @kirtburdick
    @kirtburdick Рік тому +1

    Excellent video! That one tool used to make the grid in perspective reminded me of that rad weapon in KRULL.

  • @JustSomeGuy
    @JustSomeGuy Рік тому +6

    Uni makes blue lead for their Nano Dia series for 0.5mm pencils. Uni has a bunch of different colors. The mint blue is the closest to non-photo blue. It's technically not a non-photo blue lead, but if you adjust the levels in Photoshop, it works the same way. It's also erasable (to the same degree as 2B lead).

  • @frostbite1dragon2
    @frostbite1dragon2 Рік тому

    You guys are pushing the new generation of comic makers like me if ever in doubt know you’ve given back to the community u love ten fold!

  • @louiechin2937
    @louiechin2937 Рік тому +1

    haha when ed said his middle finger was crooked i looked at mine and what do you know, so is mine

  • @Rossccline
    @Rossccline Рік тому +1

    This is one of the best videos I have watched that you guys have made. Thanks for doing this and keep it up, the pennies are a flash back to my college graphics design courses.

  • @darioscomicschool1111
    @darioscomicschool1111 Рік тому +2

    Pumped to check this out! Traditonal is the WAY to keep it fun! Physical!

  • @SuperPeteTube
    @SuperPeteTube Рік тому +2

    Man, I just went to school today. Thank you for this. Seriously, this is the best channel ever.

  • @ChrisEliopoulos
    @ChrisEliopoulos Рік тому +1

    A bunch of us used a Hunt 107 that we filed down to a chisel point using fine sandpaper then glass. Used a Speedball B-6 for bolds. Jim Novak, Mike Heisler, Pat Brosseau, Bill Oakley, Ken Lopez and I called ourselves the Magnificent 107s.

  • @williamibanez394
    @williamibanez394 Рік тому +2

    Watching this while inking with said tools! Got to love the Raphaels.

  • @japewisteria
    @japewisteria Рік тому +1

    I'm a 2B man. And I still have my Ames lettering guide from back in the day.

  • @TheDrigodamus
    @TheDrigodamus Рік тому

    More process and technique, loved the conversation! Tom speak up didn’t know you were at the table!

  • @Therealmrmeow
    @Therealmrmeow Рік тому +4

    Dope stuff, but where do you plug it in? JK... I'm old as dirt and love using real tools! Thanks for sharing!

  • @zackcahill7966
    @zackcahill7966 Рік тому +1

    This is the exact content I wanted right now

  • @mariop8852
    @mariop8852 Рік тому +1

    When I took CAD classes they insisted that we learned how to draft manually first. It may seem weird but there really is something to using all those old tools and a clean sheet of vellum.

  • @Soshikix
    @Soshikix 5 місяців тому

    This is amazing. As someone who prefers physical mediums, I love this.

  • @MatthewPearce
    @MatthewPearce Рік тому

    This gave me the same feeling as being a kid and seeing the shots in Wizard of someone’s studio. Super rad. Thanks guys!

  • @SanctumSanctorumVidz
    @SanctumSanctorumVidz Рік тому

    I can't even watch this episode because I still HAVE all those items in the thumbnail, and, still use them when not working digitally.
    But now I'm feeling ooooold.

  • @benjaminfloresart
    @benjaminfloresart Рік тому +2

    That nautical cartography tool (the perspective cheat) I’ve seen referred to as a “10 point divider”.

  • @cedricgoart
    @cedricgoart Рік тому +3

    Nice! It should be very interesting. I look forward to see if there's any cool tools I never heard of before 🙂

  • @rebeccapeters295
    @rebeccapeters295 Рік тому

    The duo tone paper looks wild on screen you can see the patterns

  • @leem1986
    @leem1986 Рік тому +3

    I hit like before I started watching this. Thanks guys, I love your tools and techniques videos!

  • @nicholassmart4790
    @nicholassmart4790 Рік тому +1

    I have been waiting for a video like this since I saw the channel. Excellent. Thank you so much from all the way in South Africa

  • @WMLHmalcolmtv
    @WMLHmalcolmtv Рік тому +2

    this is so cool. Thanks for this Kayfabe team.

  • @davepraetorius
    @davepraetorius Рік тому +2

    This is some of my favourite shit. More of this, please!

  • @nilesbrook4216
    @nilesbrook4216 Рік тому

    What a great trip down Memory lane!!
    When i was at the Kubert school we had something called “The Lucey Machine” where you’d tape your artwork at one end of the machine upside down then you sat at the other end at a glass screen and turned two wheels one to increase the size of the art and the other to focus the image. Then with your paper taped to the screen you’d trace your art, lettering, etc at a larger size.
    Great video!

  • @KevinWolffart
    @KevinWolffart Рік тому +1

    We used to test the Series 7 in the art stores back in the 80s. You'd ask for a cup of water and do the flick test. If it makes a perfect point, it's good. They were 13+ dollars even then.

  • @LeoLoikkanen
    @LeoLoikkanen Рік тому +3

    Aw heck! I just got a Gillott 303 and a Hunt 102 nibs. Been practicing with those. I really like using them more than doing stuff on digital. Hoping that my bro will be able to get me a Speedball B3 nib from Brussels

  • @FWACATA
    @FWACATA Рік тому

    Extremely Educational, thanks so much. When I was at SCAD the AMES guide came up and I ran out to get one, and I swear to sweets Jabus I never learned how to use until now, 20+ years later. So Thanks, AGAIN

  • @russworks2882
    @russworks2882 Рік тому +1

    As you speculate, at an institutional job I had, we had floating T-squares screwed into our drawing tables (with the cables and pulleys built in), which made it easier to use the Leroy lettering guide. You'd just hold the straightedge down with your arm as you lettered, to be safe. Also had an attachment to use points with ink cartridges. I would lay down guidelines and roughly pencil in the letters to gauge the space you needed and then just go to work. It sounds like a lot, but you can get pretty fast once it clicks. You can still get drawing tables and lap boards with both vertical and horizontal rules built in.

  • @DocCivil
    @DocCivil 9 місяців тому

    The artist I apprenticed under advised me to use saddle soap to clean out brushes because it was an oil based soap that puts oil back into the brush.

  • @darioscomicschule1111
    @darioscomicschule1111 Рік тому +2

    YES!!!! THE GOOD STUFF!

  • @drawrobot
    @drawrobot Рік тому +1

    Thanks to the backwardness of my art school, we were still learning the mechanicals/paste-up method of layout. Despite the looming digital offerings around the corner. So lettering class was sort of messing with Ames guides and doing color lettering on overlay in gouache (ugh). Lettering cleanly that way never gelled with my style so I've forgotten most of it. It is where I picked up basics for inking. The one tip I kept was tapping the sheet to either the back of a piece of cardboard or the back of a masonite sheet. Using brush, you can sit the drawing board on your lap. It's sooo much easier on the back. Instead of tapping the sheet to a drawing table.

  • @benjaminfloresart
    @benjaminfloresart Рік тому +1

    Brand new to the craft, but I’ve working traditionally with a light box that’s about .25” to .375” thin AND it’s magnetic, so I can on an incline while positioning my paper at different rotation and locations on the light box while temporary fixed with magnets. Works well (my spine really appreciates it)👍🏼

  • @kevinbarry6441
    @kevinbarry6441 Рік тому +2

    Great stuff, guys!

  • @MisterMech
    @MisterMech Рік тому +2

    If you could make this video a weekly or monthly series that would be awesome! Call if Tricks of the Trade: Drafting Tools for Artisanal Cartooning or something like that. I"m sure I'm not the only one that wants to see you go into more depth with some of these things.

  • @christismellow
    @christismellow Рік тому

    Yes to Conditioner to shape your brush before putting plastic cover back on!👍

  • @pladtoeputh
    @pladtoeputh Рік тому

    almost better, in comparison with, the CGC snuff. very informative - thanks guys!

  • @johnnydesjardins1463
    @johnnydesjardins1463 Рік тому +1

    love the talk on the tools of the trade

  • @nickmckenzie9365
    @nickmckenzie9365 10 місяців тому

    I'm an Artist and I've washed brushes in shampoo and conditioner, and honestly, you can just wash them in hand soap and rise thoroughly and they'll be fine.

  • @damagecontrol1049
    @damagecontrol1049 Рік тому +1

    Love this.

  • @Murdochsk
    @Murdochsk Рік тому

    Videos going in to detail more with tools would be amazing. I’d love to see each guys processes, thumbnails, paper sizes, brands, ink brands why those brands etc. it would save us all a lot of trial and error

  • @bigmoviesify
    @bigmoviesify Рік тому

    I work on paper. Thanks for doing this!

  • @agmart86
    @agmart86 Рік тому

    Wow really cool and helpful, thank you guys, keep up the good work👍🏼

  • @unattain4773
    @unattain4773 Рік тому

    Love this sort of content, showing the tools, the process.
    Would be great to watch some live art drawing on the channel.
    Thank you

  • @JackNuisance
    @JackNuisance Рік тому

    my favourite vid ever. not joking. I own most of that stuff... it brought back some sweet memories.

  • @ghostbusternoel3185
    @ghostbusternoel3185 Рік тому +1

    Another fantastic video

  • @Annihilator2011
    @Annihilator2011 Рік тому

    On your use of the lead pointer.
    Notice the two little holes on the side of the lead cleaner.
    Those are depth gauges to set up a fine or a broad point.
    Notice the triangle next to each hole that indicate the point type.
    Put your pencil tip to the hole you have selected, drop lead to the bottom of the hole, and then use the pointer.

  • @amandasemler5880
    @amandasemler5880 Рік тому

    That perspective tool is awesome! I eyeball my perspective because I hate using a ruler for it. I'll have to pick one up to make my process quicker!! I love this video. There is a certain magic to traditional media that I hope more creators will turn to!

  • @JamieMPhoto
    @JamieMPhoto Рік тому

    Love this. I barely draw enough anymore (way into photograph), but I still have my technigraph lead holder right here.

    • @JamieMPhoto
      @JamieMPhoto Рік тому

      And so wish I had UA-cam when I was younger. If I couldn't find it in a book, I basically had to teach myself. I guess I can still learn, though ...

  • @tonyodonnell-tv9yq
    @tonyodonnell-tv9yq 8 місяців тому

    How did I not know about the proportion calculater I used to do it by placing a ruler accross the bottom left and top right corner and projecting a line then did arithmetic.

  • @johnlabry325
    @johnlabry325 Рік тому

    Great vid guys

  • @spasticjackson9578
    @spasticjackson9578 Рік тому

    40:55 Congruent subdivisions.

  • @cookieDaXapper
    @cookieDaXapper Рік тому

    The tools of the Draftsman,....just watching y'all handle dem thangs makes me want to pull out the table and T square, cut some board, and do our,......passion. PEACE family of the pen, and God bless.

  • @joshuatowers7181
    @joshuatowers7181 Рік тому

    Best one yet!!

  • @ComicBooksFR
    @ComicBooksFR 6 місяців тому

    I bought plenty of metal nibs while at Kubert. Never used them. 😂

  • @xavigolden8287
    @xavigolden8287 Рік тому +2

    awesome!

  • @RyanBrown314
    @RyanBrown314 Рік тому

    I need you guys to go deep on layouts/process eventually. I’d love it

  • @Madoc928
    @Madoc928 11 місяців тому

    quick we need to archive this for posterity because holy cow we are not gonna have this knowledge in the near future

  • @4ever4eyes
    @4ever4eyes Рік тому

    Some lead holders have a sharpener in the cap at the top where you load the lead itself.

  • @mojorisen8980
    @mojorisen8980 Рік тому

    You guys have one of the best channels in UA-cam
    Ty very much for the information. Please please please keep making no art videos

  • @benjaminfloresart
    @benjaminfloresart Рік тому +1

    Add to the list: Parallel Ruler

  • @ghistecyk8733
    @ghistecyk8733 Рік тому

    Letratone! Forgot about that stuff..

  • @nicholasgarza4076
    @nicholasgarza4076 Рік тому

    11:14 dunno if it's known or not, but the blue led holder has a sharpener built into the top of it.

    • @CartoonistKayfabe
      @CartoonistKayfabe  Рік тому +2

      I had no idea. Both of the lead holders have a sharpener in the top. Thanks! - JR

  • @egyptian316
    @egyptian316 Рік тому

    You never used your ruler as a straightedge. I feel like somewhere down the line somebody taught you right. :D

  • @mystic1246
    @mystic1246 Місяць тому

    Think that's called a 10 point divider.

  • @furwerkstudio2057
    @furwerkstudio2057 Рік тому

    I am slowly trying to work my way backwards from the screen to paper due to many factors from the fact I am better at detailing on paper than on the screen, but I would love to make my work look like cel animated 80's Don Bluth movie eventually.

  • @yvettestricklandjohnston8823

    I loved watching this, it takes me down memory lane. Do you have a link to purchase these tools through Amazon? I want to give you the affiliate kick back for buying.

  • @pierocabral8910
    @pierocabral8910 Рік тому +4

    I'm trying to find that tool for the perspective (also seen DWJ using) but no use! If someone knows the name, that would help a lot!!! :-) Awesome content guys! Thanks!

    • @jasonmorrow187
      @jasonmorrow187 Рік тому +1

      I think I found it. It’s called an equal ruler

  • @thisisowen
    @thisisowen Рік тому +2

    Pencil recommendations for someone who tends to be more of a heavy hand?

    • @spoton8121
      @spoton8121 Рік тому +2

      If you don't want to smudge everything go with a harder lead.H or 2H, It's dark enough for you to see and when you erase pencil lines there's not much graphite left over. Always use good quality pencils. They last longer and they are more cosistent. Staedtler has made pencils forever and they are among the best and readily avaialble.

    • @JH-pe3ro
      @JH-pe3ro Рік тому +1

      Mitsubishi Hi-uni in the H range to your preference. H leads take more pressure and erase easier, and wood pencils enable the side/vertical grip, which lets you work with shoulder movements and stay looser. For a mechanical, Pentel Sharp Kerry, with Uni Nano-dia lead. The Kerry design is simple and reliable, has been around forever, has a cap(so it's a very portable pencil), and looks fancy if you need to impress someone.

  • @apexcomix3200
    @apexcomix3200 Рік тому +1

    I draw on paper. I tried digital...makes me fall asleep 😴

  • @mojorisen8980
    @mojorisen8980 Рік тому

    I meant more art videos

  • @boris1932
    @boris1932 Рік тому +1

    Man I have used almost every tool you showed. I majored in Commercial Art and Design in the very early 90's --- We only had a couple of computer classes, as you couldn't do very much with them at all back then. I remember doing color sep's using Rubylith sheets -- also had to learn to use a photostat camera. Learned airbrush and used plenty of the rapidograph tech pens, always hated them though, lol.

  • @albatz1377
    @albatz1377 Рік тому

    It's a weems and plath ten point divider....the actual W&P one is like 200 300 bucks ...but there's tons of knock off versions out there.

  • @senorx6296
    @senorx6296 Рік тому

    Now the AI ​​will take jobs from those who use programs to draw, each time that technology advances more. Even the real work, or the one that is done on paper, will be worth more and will be done since technology cannot compete with reality