TUTORIAL: Are you using the wrong band saw blades? (The best setup for woodworking)
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I solved the problem of changing blades. I bought a second bandsaw.
Next we'll have to round out your handheld drill collection.
lol
😂
If I did the same..... I'd have 20.
But I also like having every blade even if they're unnecessary
Stumpy, I appreciate the writing on the blackboard it helps reinforce what you were saying and made everything easier to understand.
I agree, that was very effective. It would also be handy if it were available as a PDF that could be printed (or saved).
Yes! What they said. JimE
David Walser I have Adobe and can easily make a pdf...or just write it down
yes, it's helpful - could you learn to write upside down so we don't have to flip our lap tops to read what you wrote? And perhaps also in French for those in Quebec?
Yes great l did a screen capture so I have the info when I go to the blade shop. Thanks
James, thank you so much for making this. I'm always left scratching my head when it comes time to choose a new bandsaw blade. Now, I just need to figure out how to afford one bandsaw for each type of blade so I never have to deal with the hassle of changing them out!
Just exactly what I need: Clear, boiled down information not biased towards any brands. Just telling me what there is and what is best for what.
2 years after this first posted and I still come back to it for info whenever I need to buy a new blade.
same here, this channel is awsome
I’m the same way
Stumpy, once again you've provided STELLAR advice! Sharing that graph which shows the relationship between radius and blade thickness was hugely helpful! By the way, kudos for drawing all of those near-perfectly curved lines! I always watch your videos and feel like I'm attending a woodworking class. Well done.
I feel incredibly well informed now. Saving this to my favorites
You set me right with my table saw blade, Stump. Now you're gonna help me with my band saw blade.
EDIT
Your presentation on this important subject is excellent. You gave me the answer I was looking for. These bandsaws are tricky devils to set up. You've helped me put the last piece of the puzzle in place. "Dish" is a good choice of words. I've been fighting that dish. After seeing your presentation I ordered 2 new blades. :-)
I know this video is dated a bit but the information is invaluable. Thoughts on all the hype of the "re-saw" king? Seems way expensive, and I'm not sure if it's just creators pushing certain things. I just purchased the Ambassador c14, and the stock blade seems like it's re saw only and leaves some nice blade marks along with excessive waste.
I just purchased a Rikon 10-3061 10” bandsaw and was told to purchase 10 tip blade for smother cuts. I’m confused since this is my first bandsaw and I want to get the right blades. It comes with a 5/16 6 tip regular blade. Could you suggest the right 1/2” and 1/4” blades or other blades I should buy. Also is Timberwolf a good brand?
What type of blade would you recommend for pvc/plastic/hard bonded rubber? No turning needed. Just straight cutts. Thanks you kind sir.
Straight cut in hardwood.. like ebony.. straight lines max 2inch thickness, what blade would you reccomend
What's the best bandsaw blade for cutting walnut, maple, oak etc...?
That was a cool as hell intro, nice dude! hahaaaaa :)
this was a great episode, I went to buy at sawblade.com and was overwhelmed and had no idea what to get. Now I'm ready to shop. Thanks again
I cannot find 3 TPI 3/8" 80" blade. If it is the right blade, why doesn't anyone make it? A maybe a different length?
A great explanation to the mystery of band saw blades. Thanks. Now if I can only master changing them easily and folding them. 😁 Yes, I know you have a video for that.
Very much obliged to you for the excellent and informative tutorial! I recently added a band saw to my wee workshop, and in common with many fellow woodworkers, don't really understand the uses of the various blades. What I did know, was that the cheap blade that came with it - 6tpi 1/4 inch - was probably less than optimal.
Anyway, thanks for taking the time to share your knowledge with us!
This video was mentioned on the AAW site, and as a long time bowl turner, I had to check it out. 99% of my bandsaw use has been for roughing out bowl blanks. I am lucky to have a local bandsaw shop where I buy my blades. When I first started, a friend told me to check them out. When I told them what I was doing with my bandsaws, I told them bowls. They suggested the bimetal blades, specifically Lennox. I have found out that while they do cost several times more than cheaper blades, they cut far longer that other cheaper blades, and they can be resharpened a number of times. If I hit a nail with one, it doesn't bother the blade much. Note, metal cutting blades have a much different tooth shape than wood cutting blades. When I asked about the carbide blades, they told me that those blades are for cutting veneers. The teeth on the one I tried were too small to resharpen.
Why the name stumpu nubs...... Seems like a strange name for someone with all fingers intact
Great info and diagram! And perfect timing as I just purchased my first bandsaw a few weeks ago! Thanks for your videos! They’re all great!
Stumpy drew a wrong diagram for teeth per inch. His drawing shows 2 teeth per inch, not 3!
Thanks for your content. Nicely paced and gets straight into rather fluffy bs intro 😀
Your sponsor doesn't offer your recommended blades. They are only offering hook in the tpi you recommend.
Sawblade doesnt carry a 1/2 3tpi hardback in a hook tooth.
Hi James,
I just recently purchased a Harvey AMBASSADOR C14 band saw after much research, taking into consideration my budget and watching your videos; which BTW I absolutely love.
One thing I’m planning to do is a lot of resawing. I think I’m going to bite the bullet and get a Laguna Resaw King. I don’t have a problem spending the money on high quality tools and I want to get the smoothest cut as I’m going to be cutting some thin veneers and I also want to get as many boards as I can without waste.
My question to you is this: Should I get a 1 inch blade or stay with a 3/4 inch. First, even though this saw can take a 1 inch blade, can it produce the tension required for that wide a blade and second, is it overkill?
I can’t seem to get a straight answer anywhere. Some people say get the widest blade that your machine can accommodate. Other say 1 inch is too much bade for a 14” saw.
And yes, I’ve seen Alex Snodgrass’ videos.
It’s my first band saw and I’m absolutely in love with it! I’ve had it for only 2 months and I think I’ve made 782 band saw boxes already. Just kidding.
Help!!
George
I'm considering buying a Rikon 10-3061 bench top bandsaw. It's uses a 70-1/2" blade. I have been unable to find a manufacture that has a 3/8" -3TPI , 1/4" -4TPI, or a 1/2"3TPI in a flex blade. I went to sawblade.com but they only offer hook tooth flex blades in the three sizes you recommend.
James' meditation on cutting wood, 'Keeps It Simpler than Simple '. What James doesn't know about all things 'wood', doesn't appear to be worth knowing. Again... Thank you, Sir!!
Hi James, I've just come across this video after acquiring a craftsman 14" bandsaw. I'm tuning it up and need some blades. I plan to do some hobby work making toys and boxes as well as a little resawing. The link you provided does not seem to offer the 3/16" or 1/8" flex back blades that you recommended. Do you have a preferred place for those? Thanks
Stumpy consulted this video many times. Love the info and just ordered a 3 TPI 3/8" Flex Back blade for my Grizzly band saw! Appreciate your knowledge and instruction! Merry Christmas my friend!
I finally added a 'classic, read that elderly; Craftsman 12" bandsaw to my small shop. Did the usual, new tires, bearings, Cool guides, etc. Then ordered my spanky new 3/8, 3tpi, flexback blade from sawblades using your link. I like to help out and hey, same day or next day shipping, according to their vid! Or not. I ordered last Thurs, six business days later...shipping pending. No blame on you, of course, but something to consider when recommending them. I'm new to woodworking and your vids are as informative as they are humorous. Keep em coming.
Ok, this is probably the 10th (no exaggeration) time I've watched this vid. ... Pretty much every time I get a new/different type project that I need to use a different blade. Wish I could print this info out! "Have a cool one my friend! You've earned it!"
Really informative video. I have been struggling with my bandsaw cuts for a long time. What would you say recommend I use to cut 2 inch thick treated lumber for a 48 mm radius curves please? It just won't do it. Thx
There you go - the only way to be first comment writer is to live for Stumpy Nubs :)
I know this is 5 years old. What is great about this content, it's ageless. Remains just as true today as it was 5, 10, 15, 40 years ago. I do have one question (hopefully you see this), you didn't say which tooth gemotery to use. Unless it's implied and I missed the reference. My dad left me a ton of blades, and I don't know what is what. Based on this vlog, I should be able to figure out some of them. As he was a machinist, I would be willing to bet that some of them are bi-metal. Though he did buy an enormous band saw for metal cutting.
what size blade is best to cut 1 1/2" pine i do sharp turns thanks
Excellent video, professional and very well presented,. HEY, I wanna be like you when I grow up!!!
Looking at replacing the blade in my Jet 14" bandsaw. What would be a good all purpose size blade and tooth count? Is there a manufacturer that you prefer over another?
Invaluable advice upon which i purchased 2 new blades from sawblade.com as per recommendation and couldn't be happier. Great product! Thanks again Stumpy
I just upgraded my generic China 10" to a Jet 14" specifically for resawing wider boards and tutorial this was exactly what I needed. Thanks James!
does anyone know where I can buy a 100' roll of toothless bandsaw blank that is 3/16" wide x 1/16" thick. I'm having a hard time finding a supplier.
Thanks Stumpy,you are the best teacher, great at explaining and easy to understand!!
Not sure if this will get read or acknowledged.
I've used a cast iron 14" jet for decades and if positioning the gullet on the crown or center of the tire a half inch blade is nearly the widest blade that can be used with the back of the blade scrubbing the inside of the wheel. Yet so may youtube instructors fail to mention this basic understanding not realizing most garage shops and beginners actually have a 14 inch bandsaw or smaller.
Just bought my first 9” bandsaw second hand, this explained a lot! Thanks, James!
Question: Can a metal cutting blade be used on a saw with a slowest speed of 1700 FPM? What I've found on the web says no, but the folks at Sawblade.com indicated I could. But they were fixated on what kind of metal vs. speed of the saw. What do you think?
Great info as a beginner wood worker, I am starting off with a 591/2 Skil saw. I’m wondering if I can buy say a 60 inch? Would that fit? Since the wheels are adjustable? TY
I’m looking for a 3TPI and not getting any hits.
Probably, but I can't guarantee it. A half inch smaller may work too.
Love all your videos, James. Content is spot on, explanations are perfect. But ... maybe ... a new hairstyle?
Really liked this video and really liked seeing it all written out as you talked about it, really helps get the information across.
For the 3/8 and 1/4 you recommend, sawblade.com only has hook tooth options for the Q101, I assume that's ok. I figured I'd go normal if possible to not be so aggressive, but my 14in Rikon can probably handle it I guess. But for resaw, the Q201 in 1/2 or 3/4 doesn't come in hook, only 3tpi, or 3skip on the 3/4..this seems a bit backwards from the recommendation that the hook seemed to be better for resaw, or was I interpreting that wrong?
So if I’m cutting a 3inch x 3 inch board with a slight curve, a 1/4 width blade won’t work ?
Thanks James. Have an old Rockwell and needed some blades. I went with your recommendation(s).
Sawblade.com has great prices! I hope the quality is good too... this could be a real good find! I just ordered 3 blades with your link. Thanks!
stumpy i got an old craftsman 12 inch bandsaw from a friend. i tuned it up. new tires, new blade, tightend every thing up etc. i get a lot of drift. but when i try to tighten the blade i find it rides right on the front of the bottom wheel and i can feel the blade teeth so its not riding on the tire its on the front metal of the wheel. im confused? also the manual says it takes a 90 inch blade but i cant get a 90 on, no way. i put a 91 inch on and it fits. first band saw for me so im lost....................help.
packed with great info, thanks James!
Thank you Stumpy, I'm inspired to build. Theres a 12in bansaw/sander sitting in my garage. My Dad left it to me along with many, many other tools. I wasn't quite sure what to do with all of it. Now, thanks to your enlightenment, I have a new passion. I can't wait to learn about all the great things I'll be able to do with my Dads power tools. I'd love to show him a British Telephone booth. That I made. Thanks again, Great information .
Making the family adirondack chairs out of PT lumber, it is Florida after all. Have never used a band saw before, bought an old craftsman and refurbished it. Fought the lumber every step of the way. Watched your tutorial, clicked on sawblade.com ordered a 3 TPI blade and I am a happy boy. knocked out ten chairs, and had fun doing it. Thank you.
I'm a meat cutter so I use a waterproof bandsaw daily. I'm just getting into wood working. These wood bandsaws are a lot different...great tutorial video Stumpy!!
Those three different types of blades you recommended starting @ 5:20, what types were they? Raker, hook, skip tooth, ect?.....
I recommend the width. YOU have to decide on the tooth style based upon what you will use it for. I gave you the information you need to decide in this video.
If I’m cutting some really hard wood how do I know how deep I can cut before risking the blade snapping
Hi...I am totally new to the bandsaw. I don't even have on yet...LOL. I would like to purchase on to cut composition note books in half. Can it be used for that and if so what is the best blade to purchase??? Thanks!!
Yes, it could be used for that. The blade rules that govern wood would apply the same to a notebook.
I really needed this to understand the blades. Thank you so much. Been trying to cut out knife scale blanks and it's not been going well. But I was using the default blade that came with my bandsaw. I know what to look for now!
Buying my first bandsaw this weekend. Labor day sales coming soon! Thanks for this. Who else screenshot the blade width/radius drawing?
- B R A V O for excellent, relevant info re: bandsaw blades. V E R Y helpful.
This is a great video on bandsaw blades. Excellent tutorial James!!
All good points and generally I agree with you. In practice though a vital factor is the tuning of the bandsaw itself. Is there a decent crown on the rubber, are the guides well adjusted and squared to support the blade, and is the blade positioned and tracking correctly ?
If you have a really good well maintained saw you can cut curves on 12” thick blocks with just a 1/2” lennox HSS blade. Well worth the extra cost. I have resawn boards that wide too with the same blade. A tad slow but it will get you there. Having said that I do use a 1 and 1/4” carbide Lennox to resaw these days. Expensive but lasts a long long time. Its actually a metal cutting blade so if you do hit the odd staple or nail it wont kill the blade.
Another big factor is motor power. Most standard electric motors supplied are wimpy. Get a bigger one if you can. 3hp minimum. To many 30” saws only have a 3hp motor ! It should have 5 really. 36” ? 10 hp really rocks the casbah. Make it delta wound if you can.
Does FPM make a difference, especially on cut quality, besides power requirement?
As always, you're videos are great, to-the-point and very informative. Thank you! I just acquired a broken-down JET 14" bandsaw, for free. I've found all the repair parts for less than $100, minus the blades that I'm shopping for now.
Very informative. Thank you.
Totally what I needed! Agree with other comments - your penmanship under pressure is stellar! I screenshotted that graph, printed it and put in the top wheel cover.
Which blade would be best for 6/4 material cutting slight curves?
Succinct and very informative. I wish all videos were like yours.
Mr. Nubbs you have done it again, excellent class but i have questions, is a 3/8 6tpi carbon blade to much for shaping cutting board handles and charcuterie board work? Also, the saw i bought was second hand (craftsman does not make anymore) so should i buy new tires as well?
GREAT info. I'll be watching this a few more times. Thanks, Stumpy.
Thank You!! I have been burning blades for awhile and have not been able to get a clear answer on how to prevent it.
Thanks for the clear, concise information. Very helpful.
Great video Stumpy ! I just bought a bandsaw and trying to learn about them. This is a perfect video explaining the blades. Keep up the great work.
Great info. Helped a bunch
Excellent video, where is located SawBlade, USA or Canada.
A quick check for tpi vs material is to ensure you have at least two teeth in contact with the material at all times.
I look for your videos when I want not only good information, but really effective instruction! Thank you.
The bandsaw is by far, my most favorite tool ever. Unfortunately they’re like newborn babies, they’re high maintenance. They take a lot of fiddling to get right, and as soon as you do get it right, you either break the blade, or you have to swap it out for a different type, thus starting the whole process over again.
WOW! Maybe the most informational video yet. I've never understood all the types. Thanks James!
Great presentation and Information. I agree changing the blade is a pain. I keep two blades (with spare). 1/2 3tpi for resaw, and 1/4 6tpi for fine radius cuts. Thanks James, you give us great info. Give my regards to Mo Mike (we are of a similar age). I do miss his little segments
Possibly the best explanation & demistification of bandsaw blade selection. Thanks Stumpy!
Great tips! Thank You!
Thanks Stumpy, very helpful information 😀
What blade for resaw lumber?
I most dread having to find the manual when changing a blade for info on tensioning and tracking etc. 😩
There are usually just two knobs. The one on the top of the bandsaw (above the upper wheel) is for tension. Turning it raises the wheel. The one on the back (behind the upper wheel) is for tracking. Turning it tilts the wheel.
You read my mind!!! Thank you!!!
(Lol. I just realized it’s bandsaw not jigsaw blades. Oh well.)
Amazing video, thank you for your effort!
Writing on the blackboard definitely helped visualizing what you were saying.
I love your channel brother and respect your advice. I have tried SawBlade.com and it is the worst customer service i have ever had!!!!! I gave them the benefit of doubt after the first time I tried and it was a nightmare but after this last time I will NOT BE USING SAWBLADE.COM AGAIN!!!! If you have other suggestions on ordering bandsaw blades im all ears
Sorry for your trouble, Bill. I've only had good experiences myself. I'll mention it next time I talk to them and see what's going on. It may just be that they hit a temporary snag.
You are an excellent instructor with a great presentation. One of the very best UA-camrs! Very informative. I learn something relevant and cool every time I see one of your videos!
Wow . . . look at that vintage tool collection. I miss this old backdrop.
Thanks Stumpy, that was really useful. I am in the middle of setting up my band saw and beginning the learning curve. Now I am far less clue challenged.
AWESOME! THANKS SO MUCH 😘
Such amazing hand writing. Very Soothing
Thank you thank you my brother
Very helpful as always and as always I used the link!
Truly a superior video. I've owned a 14" bandsaw for years and today I learned several things from you. Keep up the excellent work!
Good information my friend 😊
Thanks for the info, Stumpy. I just bought a new Grizzly 17" and if I ever get time to use it, I want to start off with the right blades for my most common projects. There are tons of videos on tuning a bandsaw and changing the blade, but not much on the blade itself. So this is really helpful.