They look great! I bought some wagons second hand on eBay a few years ago, they were the new bachmann models, which look great. I got them pretty cheap so thought that was a good deal. Turned out however, upon delivery, that the previous owner had filled them with plaster to make it look like they had a load. This plaster was then painted with some gloopy black paint. I managed to get it out of a couple wagons, but the insides need a good touch up. A couple wagons have so much inside that I've still not been able to remove it all. The weight of the wagons had severely increased so running any realistic length trains with these loaded wagons was out of the question. Buyers beware.... Might be too good of a deal lol
Very nice video! Another idea for weathering would be using weathering powder. I make my own for cheap by buying chalk pastels at the craft store and by scraping the pastel sticks with a knife it makes powder you can apply with a brush. The powder can be "glued" to a model with a matte coat. I use this technique a lot and the small tray of earth tone pastels I bought for a few bucks have lasted me many models of anything from trains to buildings.
I personally like using a combination of the dry brushing like you have displayed and some powder but everyone has their own techniques and they all usually work quite well haha
Nice video as always. However, a couple of observations: thin plasticard can warp over time (as the sagging roofs on some of my wagons prove) so it might be an idea to laminate a few layers together after curving? Also, another tip is to drill a hole in the wagon floor to allow the glue fumes to fully evaporate and not attck the plastic later on. Hope that this helps!
Picked up one of these at the SVR diesel festival yesterday. Marked up for £1.50 and still had the roof. Also found a Mainline 16t mineral with metal wheels for £4 and a GW Crocodile bogie well wagon (Mainline) for £6. The seller let me have the lot for £11 in total which I feel was pretty good. If you can find unboxed Mainline wagons they are a very good deal as the 'collector pricing' doesn't affect them and they look and run really well.
A bargain well done. Most unboxed wagons are pretty cheap I find, add a box and you add 50%, silly really as I'm not going to run the box! That's the problem with the collector/investor they are ruining the hobby.
Hi Great idea, I have a similar rake but with some of the large wheel based wagons in a slightly off coloured BR bauxite livery mixed in as well Loving the video's Olly
Really enjoyable video love the idea of weathering the vans and handy tips for making the roofs. Didn't bother on commenting of yesterday's video.... Sorry! But Merry Christmas.
I've been doing this for years. Although might I recommend contact adhesive superglue? I put some along the long edge once I've cut the roof shape, let it dry, put some on the opposite edge and then role the roof over. Saves a bit more time :)
great job once again .I wanted my locos and rolling stock weathered .my local model shop does it ...TMC at beck hole north yorks ,they do a great job but charge around 25 to 3 quid a loco and I have about 80 locos so as you can imagine it would have been a no go financially. I went online to look at airbrush kits ,they were all between 30 quid for the cheap canister type hobby ones and up to 200 quid .I finally went on to beauty and nails ...yes that's what I said lol and got a nail art airbrush and mini compressor 35 quid .the kit has a proper airbrush with accessories ,air line and a 9volt compressor which is variable .it has auto cut off .I have weathered 25 of my mates locos ,he has now bought the same kit as mine and does his own weathering .I have done all my locos plus 10 coaches ,and around 30 fish vans and 20 assorted wagons .it a worth while purchase .I got loads of advice about having to buy an airbrush kit of over 150 quid ...this is not true.you don't need to pay that much .I traded some of my older locos with another local shop and he thought they were pro jobs lol ...result .this is why I enjoy your channel and like to add my own ideas to save money on this great hobby .I hope it helps .
I would personally use resin to make copies (keeps the roof details) and I would wash the model in a black wash (will bring out the wood planks and grains) before dry brushing for weathering
just a thought ? could you not use an empty plastic drinks bottle for the roof ? once cut up would already have a slight curve in it, ok its clear plastic, but it gets painted anyway ? or maybe a milk bottle ?............or am i getting too budget here ? lol :)
No idea where to start looking to find these things at the kind of cheap prices mentioned in the video. Looking around on ebay I could only find ones that are as expensive as normal wagons new.
Anyone know how British rolling stock would look on an American layout? I love the way they look and I want to find a way to get some , but I don't trust ebay and idk about anything else that isint outrageously expensive. Anyone know how to help.
Postage from the UK is prohibitive and second hand prices are rising. We have used eBay a huge amount with almost no problems and there is loads of UK outline on the US site so I would suggest that's your best bet?
Well, i dunno where you pick up wagons for a few pence each, the cheapest i have bought on ebay were about £2 each, a rake of five costing me £10. They are painted in a thick coat of rudimentary Rail Freight livery that needs stripping. I thought i got a bargain! The cheapest thing i ever bought were Hornby HST power and dummy cars for five pounds the pair, and that was over twenty years ago. I must try that model shop of yours....not too far from you, me living in Hastings. My usual method of weathering involves a thin wash of enamel paint mixed with white spirit, and a cotton bud (q-tip to our American friends) to push the paint to where i want it and wipe off the excess - the results are very good.
Try to find people selling a number of mixed wagons (because it's not worth listing them separately) even if there are one or two you don't want - they can always go into the "spares" box. Also, always worth going to local model railway shows too. Nearly every trade stand will have a bargain corner/second hand box with stuff worth saving and repainting. Happy hunting.
Budget Model Railways...thank you for warning me about that....also I sent a email to join the news letter a long time ago and have not got one yet how offer do they come out....plus I have just built a layout using 1st radius curves same size as homewood but very different on the scenic I would like to send some pics for you to use if your interested. Many thanks Sean.
Hi Sean. Sorry but the newsletter has been a victim of all our other projects and we just don't have the time to produce it. We are hoping to get a new year edition out though? You can send the pics to the same email , we would love to see them
Reminds me of ' Blue Peter" and here's one I made earlier..lol masterclass in Budget Model Railways
They look great! I bought some wagons second hand on eBay a few years ago, they were the new bachmann models, which look great. I got them pretty cheap so thought that was a good deal. Turned out however, upon delivery, that the previous owner had filled them with plaster to make it look like they had a load. This plaster was then painted with some gloopy black paint. I managed to get it out of a couple wagons, but the insides need a good touch up. A couple wagons have so much inside that I've still not been able to remove it all. The weight of the wagons had severely increased so running any realistic length trains with these loaded wagons was out of the question. Buyers beware.... Might be too good of a deal lol
Nice little project. Some good ideas to keep costs manageable.
Very nice video! Another idea for weathering would be using weathering powder. I make my own for cheap by buying chalk pastels at the craft store and by scraping the pastel sticks with a knife it makes powder you can apply with a brush. The powder can be "glued" to a model with a matte coat. I use this technique a lot and the small tray of earth tone pastels I bought for a few bucks have lasted me many models of anything from trains to buildings.
I personally like using a combination of the dry brushing like you have displayed and some powder but everyone has their own techniques and they all usually work quite well haha
Nice idea will now be on the look Out for wagons thanks
Nice video as always. However, a couple of observations: thin plasticard can warp over time (as the sagging roofs on some of my wagons prove) so it might be an idea to laminate a few layers together after curving? Also, another tip is to drill a hole in the wagon floor to allow the glue fumes to fully evaporate and not attck the plastic later on. Hope that this helps!
Great suggestions thanks
Picked up one of these at the SVR diesel festival yesterday. Marked up for £1.50 and still had the roof. Also found a Mainline 16t mineral with metal wheels for £4 and a GW Crocodile bogie well wagon (Mainline) for £6. The seller let me have the lot for £11 in total which I feel was pretty good. If you can find unboxed Mainline wagons they are a very good deal as the 'collector pricing' doesn't affect them and they look and run really well.
A bargain well done. Most unboxed wagons are pretty cheap I find, add a box and you add 50%, silly really as I'm not going to run the box! That's the problem with the collector/investor they are ruining the hobby.
Excelente way to recycle too
Very fine job.
Nice transformation and a quality bit of video work inside a snare drum!!! ;-)
Hi
Great idea, I have a similar rake but with some of the large wheel based wagons in a slightly off coloured BR bauxite livery mixed in as well
Loving the video's
Olly
Really enjoyable video love the idea of weathering the vans and handy tips for making the roofs. Didn't bother on commenting of yesterday's video.... Sorry! But Merry Christmas.
Thanks Donald
The change I’d very dramatic, they look good as new. I think a brown wood of look better dry brushed on the darker brown
I agree, next time I will experiment with a lighter brown.
I agree, next time I will experiment with a lighter brown.
I've been doing this for years. Although might I recommend contact adhesive superglue? I put some along the long edge once I've cut the roof shape, let it dry, put some on the opposite edge and then role the roof over. Saves a bit more time :)
Great idea. I now have ten wagons which cost me £7!
great job once again .I wanted my locos and rolling stock weathered .my local model shop does it ...TMC at beck hole north yorks ,they do a great job but charge around 25 to 3 quid a loco and I have about 80 locos so as you can imagine it would have been a no go financially. I went online to look at airbrush kits ,they were all between 30 quid for the cheap canister type hobby ones and up to 200 quid .I finally went on to beauty and nails ...yes that's what I said lol and got a nail art airbrush and mini compressor 35 quid .the kit has a proper airbrush with accessories ,air line and a 9volt compressor which is variable .it has auto cut off .I have weathered 25 of my mates locos ,he has now bought the same kit as mine and does his own weathering .I have done all my locos plus 10 coaches ,and around 30 fish vans and 20 assorted wagons .it a worth while purchase .I got loads of advice about having to buy an airbrush kit of over 150 quid ...this is not true.you don't need to pay that much .I traded some of my older locos with another local shop and he thought they were pro jobs lol ...result .this is why I enjoy your channel and like to add my own ideas to save money on this great hobby .I hope it helps .
What a fantastic idea, I'm so impressed, I may look into that for a future video
I would personally use resin to make copies (keeps the roof details) and I would wash the model in a black wash (will bring out the wood planks and grains) before dry brushing for weathering
Resin moulding is simple but expensive, it would cost more than all the wagons combined and then some
@@BudgetModelRailways That's very true... but if done right you could remold everything including the wagons
Good tips.
Nice one Guy's.........................John.
Thanks Mike, always something useful. Regards Kev
just a thought ? could you not use an empty plastic drinks bottle for the roof ? once cut up would already have a slight curve in it, ok its clear plastic, but it gets painted anyway ? or maybe a milk bottle ?............or am i getting too budget here ? lol :)
What an excellent idea!!
No idea where to start looking to find these things at the kind of cheap prices mentioned in the video. Looking around on ebay I could only find ones that are as expensive as normal wagons new.
Most new wagons are £15+ with some now £20+ so £7 is still pretty cheap, plus you get the fun of making them
Damian Freeman I find model railway shows can be cheaper
They look great and a cheap way to build up your rolling stock, Have you ever tried to paint logos or writing on the side of them?
I don't have that steady a hand I'm afraid!
Anyone know how British rolling stock would look on an American layout? I love the way they look and I want to find a way to get some , but I don't trust ebay and idk about anything else that isint outrageously expensive. Anyone know how to help.
Postage from the UK is prohibitive and second hand prices are rising. We have used eBay a huge amount with almost no problems and there is loads of UK outline on the US site so I would suggest that's your best bet?
great tips :)
Thanks
Good idea, but maybe paint before you glue?
The glue can tend to run a bit which would ruin the paint, so I usually make then paint, depends on what im making
Makes sense now. Thanks.
Well, i dunno where you pick up wagons for a few pence each, the cheapest i have bought on ebay were about £2 each, a rake of five costing me £10. They are painted in a thick coat of rudimentary Rail Freight livery that needs stripping. I thought i got a bargain! The cheapest thing i ever bought were Hornby HST power and dummy cars for five pounds the pair, and that was over twenty years ago. I must try that model shop of yours....not too far from you, me living in Hastings. My usual method of weathering involves a thin wash of enamel paint mixed with white spirit, and a cotton bud (q-tip to our American friends) to push the paint to where i want it and wipe off the excess - the results are very good.
Classic Rail is always worth a look , but ring first as sometimes he is closed if he is out viewing collections etc
Postage and packaging adds to the cost somewhat. Good tips though.
I managed to but mine from shops so that kept the costs down, I agree that p&p are a problem with eBay
Try to find people selling a number of mixed wagons (because it's not worth listing them separately) even if there are one or two you don't want - they can always go into the "spares" box. Also, always worth going to local model railway shows too. Nearly every trade stand will have a bargain corner/second hand box with stuff worth saving and repainting. Happy hunting.
I've done that a couple of times and sold the unwanted bits for more than I paid, ending up with free locos and rolling stock.
why not just cut an entire strip off down the longest side to the right width then cut off the correct length as needed .
Brilliant going on eBay now to buy some wagons to repair :-)
Try and avoid the early Triang ones with open axle boxes as they don't run as well, but the later Triang or early Hornby Lima are ok. Good luck
Budget Model Railways...thank you for warning me about that....also I sent a email to join the news letter a long time ago and have not got one yet how offer do they come out....plus I have just built a layout using 1st radius curves same size as homewood but very different on the scenic I would like to send some pics for you to use if your interested. Many thanks Sean.
Hi Sean. Sorry but the newsletter has been a victim of all our other projects and we just don't have the time to produce it. We are hoping to get a new year edition out though? You can send the pics to the same email , we would love to see them
Hi guys, great video but just thought id mention that the wagon you keep referring to as lima is actually a hornby one.
25 to 30 quid a loco lol not 3 lol...if only eh