The Eleventh & Twelfth House - according to Phaladeepika (ch 1)
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- Опубліковано 7 лют 2021
- This is my weekly stream for the book I am writing on Phaladeepika, a classic 14th century astrology text written in Sanskrit, to clarify the older systems established by Parashara and others.
लाभायागमनाप्तिसिद्धिविभवान् प्राप्तिं भवं श्लाध्यतां
ज्येष्ठभ्रातरमन्यकर्णसरसान् सन्तोषमाकर्णनम्
lābhāyāgamanāpti siddhi vibhavān prāptiṁ bhavaṁ ślāghyatāṁ
jyeṣṭha-bhrātaram anyakarṇa sarasān santoṣam ākarṇanam
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Jupiter Neptune in Sagittarius 12🏠 now I know why I get all my ideas (tie-silent),sun in 11🏠, No need to buy sofa or writing desk 😂 nice,(Anuradha)thank you Vic ❤
Interesting thanks Vic! I'm glad to hear about my oldest sister because I see the others turning their backs on me but not her. She maybe in the background but She is always with me. She may not understand me completely but has always ensured I had everything needed to get my professional degrees and to push through the hard times.
Kathryn Diane, do feel blessed ✨⭐️✨so good for you 🌺
Thanks Vic 🙏 for sharing some very interesting things about the houses. Another brilliant video. 👏
Amazing to hear about the 11th and 12th and these associations. I’m tempted by the company of cats, spiders, owls and wolves😂 but in a nice house 💫Thank you it was brilliant 🐺🐈 🦉 🕷🙏
This is divine information. I will watch it again and take notes....thank you♥
33:31 It can be anything thats lost during or as a consequence of laying down for sex. Like loss of energy, loss of something withheld, loss of virginity, loss of reputation, loss of inhibition, loss of mystery, loss of idealism, loss of sleep, loss of baby etc.
Good video. I have Saturn in 12th house ( Saturn in house of joy/ Hellenistic) and Mars in 8th house. For my own perspective though studying Buddhism ( Buddhist retreats) and Native American wisdom ( Medicine Wheel retreats) in the past, as well as my studies ( research) in Quantum Physics/Entanglement , I personally like to take a good amount of responsibility for myself with the understanding that ok I may have criticism, feeling of isolation etc ( 12th house) & hurdles , aggression etc ( 8th house). But for myself I understand that I create my own destiny. What’s important is the destiny ( manifestations ) that I create now. Physicist Nassim Haramein says “ Our participation in the universe is critical “. It would be easy ( understandably) for me to blame others but I choose not to.
I know someone else with this placement, with also sun and moon in 8th. They have explored many religions, spiritual things, etc. They are young and still have their saturn and rahu returns yet, but I would imagine when they do they may find some kind of deeper understanding then that may change their life. If you have gone through them, did you find this as well?
Jupiter in sagittarius 12th unbelievable dreams my bed is my palace my bliss ...
Nice nice!
Yes Saggitarius is an amazing sign 😍
I got Venus in Gemini in 12th house.
True , 🙋🏼♀️
You: Mother sister 3rd from the 4th
Me: 😱🤯🥳
So much information.. this is why i watch these over and over again
Very nicely explained about 11th & 12th houses, thanks.
I think the 12th house is the soul merging part of sex, Its the blend. That point where you get linked to another thru sex. Where all the energies get mingled. The place in the dark where you go to meet the other persons subtleties, everything about them that is hidden or Holy.
Call me crazy but I think I have a habit of creating psychic bonds with my boyfriends or intimate partners. I have Moon in Ashwini in 12th,H with aspect of Rahu. Mars sits in Ascendant and rules 12th and 7th.
Thank you for your efforts!
Very informative! I am a mere sapling in the study of Jyotisha. This sheds a lot of light on my natal stellium in 11th. I was mentally tortured by my eldest brother while growing up. Love him now but could have did him in back then. Beverly Hills that's where I want to be... (singing joyfully)
Take care of your left ear! 😛
Hope you are doing well now. Stay hydrated.
@@theoldgod9 Thanks!
That's Beautiful Man
Vibhav, vaibhav sarasa..enjoyable things, profits, laabha..aagamana..moral impact of you is 9th..whereas how u benefit yourself is 11th..9th is how u benefit others, 3rd is drive, lust, desire and 11th is for accomplishment..
Thank you Guru
you are a total Capi babe 🤩i really enjoy watching and learning from you..go fig my Rahu in Capricorn in 10 H @ 29 degrees telling me so 🤗
So,
This 1st house forehead, second house right eye, 12th house left eye, 3rd house right ear, 11th house left ear is what Vic ji told.
He also hinted at some other house significations on the face but kind of sidelined it saying he'd no major reasons to believe in them.
But, I just went ahead and wondered what else the face can accommodate house-wise.
So, I thought,
If one goes to grandma's home, one's definitely gonna get one's cheeks attacked. That's 4th and 10th stuff.
Especially, if someone slaps, (most of them right handed), we feel like someone invaded our inner 4th by doing something in public in 10th on left cheek?!
Then I went ahead and assigned right and left nostril as 6th and 8th house area. Seems pretty Saturnian to me, as the house karakas are saturn.
The lips and chin can be 7th, especially because kissing!! Also, nose then become a very annoying factor. #6th #8th.
Idk why but I feel like chin is deeply 7th.
The cheek bones left can be 5th and 9th?! I'm thinking jawline and expression of 5th. And, 5th from 5th is 9th too. So, they are pretty balanced all the time. They need to be.
Perfect jawline people can be good actors, and be casted away in films, and that way 5th.
#Random
Oh i forgot it was monday what a treat!
Thank you, always, Vic. This is April Harter. ☕️
46:21 Maybe it's not about foreign places as much as things that take you far away from your native land. I believe in the time these texts were written they viewed moving away from home as a bad thing. You lose connection to home land, family and culture. Also in those times travel was draining on the health and risky.
It can also refer to how day dreaming or fantasy - going far away in your mind - erodes your time in the present and yields no material gain.
I think that the connection between 12th house and far away places abroad comes from connection to isolation. Isolation from the family, homeland. In old times having to go abroad usually was a form of punishment.
I’ve Pisces in the 11th house according to Vedic astrology.
Hey Vic I don't believe in using tropical chart. i am a cancer ascendant sidereal, but in tropical i would be leo. And not by what is written or not in books , but based on observation of my personality. It is sidereal that is correct. Believe me i would so love to be a Leo, Proud and extrovert but i am a overcautious person and i need my shell to be safe. Leo is convex but i am concave man.
But regardless of that , i like watching your videos. Videos like this and the stories too, i really appreciate that you take out your time and energy to make it for all of us.
Maybe tropically you are a Leo and your Sun is doing crazy stuff!, and/or aspects to your first can be crazy like that!!
Also, you might be mixing Leo and Cancer. I like to think Cancer has more Leo than Leo, and Leo has more Cancer than Cancer. (of course, not according to the right perception, just our immature perception)
12th..dukh, daridrya, paap, shayan, kshay, 12th snd 8th atmopshere immediately above earth..erode...8th erodes things of 7th and 12th erodes 1st..reversal of manifestation is 12th..as 1st is manifestation..12th is decay
8:00 santosh, saras, shlagyata..good fame, siddhi..accomplishments, jyestha bhratara..elder sibling, whereas 3rd is siblings which are competitors.., left ear is 11th, aakarna..sense of hearing
12th house is also hospitals and ashrams and foreign countries....I know many people who live a recluse life who have planets in the 12th house
Thank you
Labasathana-its a Tamil word for 11th house meaning profit
What can you do to heal your 11th House? My Chiron is in ♒️. Thank you for sharing your knowledge with us.
I wonder if I've evolved to work with my 12th house? I'm a libra ascendent with su, me, and ju there and ve in the 11th. I used to feel lonely and think others were against me, now I love being isolated, learning by myself, and I love going with the flow in life. Lost in my own imagination.
I guess if you have a nice eleventh house senpai really will notice you.
what about Lord of 11 in 12?
Nice interpretation!
What if Venus rules the 11th house?(For instance,Sagittarius ascendant)
Venus represents prosperity as well. Goddess Lakshmi.
How would you correlate Venus and 11th house?
You are famous for being resourceful and wealthy?!
Thanks for your time, Vic ji.
Question though : @6:03 you say Vibhav is luxury, more than prosperity.
Can it be Vaibhav?, meaning fame also?!
there could be a typo in the text, but clearly vaibhav is a type or derivate of vibhav, so there is certainly a connection. He however already mentions shlaaghya, which is fame.
I always feel sad at the end of the video where you say you will be away for a week even though I will see the next viceo straight away :'D
If I have my sun in the 11th but do not particularly sense it being there, might there be a reason?
So if my ascendant is Aquarius that is my first house. Then the 11th house is sag? For me? When you talk like this how am I supposed to know which house is the 11 or 12????
Is this house found in the mountains, the cliff sides, in nature, in the wild solitary places?
Well, wasn't that more of a zodiac signs thing?, like..
Aries Wilderness
Taures Farm
Gemini Bedroom
Cancer Ocean
Leo Mountain
Virgo Farms
Libra Beautiful Places
Scorpio River, ravines, caves
Saggitarius Palace
Capricorn Swamp
Aquarius Factory
Pisces Water
Also, Vic ji metaphorically did it for 2 houses too today.
11th as house in Beverly Hills(idk where Beverly Hills are, but must have some pool, beach and good roads with white picket fenced houses)
12th as somehwere in a ghost town
(I instantly thought of some secretive Russian town, filled with mysterious radioactive radiation)
So, it's like my 11th Leo could be a Beverly hill feeling on some mountain, maybe!
And, 12th virgo be like scandal in a farm! 😬
@@theoldgod9 Yes, the 12th house imagery is on point! Imagine the ascetic orthodox monks (Desert Fathers) living in solitude in places which once had populations and water bodies... how dry, abandoned, hot.
What if some one 10th house is good in their Lagna chart and 11th house is good in navamsa?
You mean 11th cusp in navamsa!?!
Vic has said before that the Navamsa chart is a made-up concept. It's not relevant.
@@MastaRavenkroft when? And where?
In my tropical chart ruler of 2nd Saturn is in 12th with Mars for Scorpio ascendant..what doe that mean.is this the reason I have Zero savings.
Ruler of 1+6 in 12th
Ruler of 3+4 in 12th
How's saturn ruling 2nd house for Scorpio asc?!
@@theoldgod9 oh sorry, for Tropical sag ascendant.
*Any input from anyone on house indicating internet, mobile network or online?*
Vic ji stated quite a few things more than once to this effect.
Communication and assertion is 3rd, right?!
But, it could very well also be involving gemini, and Mercury.
Internet involvement makes it a more Rahu paradigm.
Anonymity could be a Mercury trait too again right?!
Maybe pushya, Rohini can be involved to in ways. But, Pushya is more technical. And Rohini is more feeling maybe. Still it could be a case.
But stalking can be like Mrigashirsa thing I guess. Venus in Mrigashirsa, and stalking/cataloguing others go hand in hand... 😬
Losing one's individuality and shaping up too many characters can be a mercurial thing, right?!
I think, the paradigms you are talking about could certainly be satisfied by relationships among various houses.
For example, 12th house being in the air,(just above 1st) could be very personal, right? It's not too far up in the sky. The bed is personal. The sleep is. The fears and secrets are. The sex is. But, what if 12th and 11th are related?!
And, what if 12th and 10th are related!?
You certainly posed some interesting models worth exploring.
@@theoldgod9 I was wondering about houses. I can see possibly 3rd house but I know some things are more particular so that the act of communicating is not the same as the area or realm at which communication or exchange of it is possible? I would lean towards 12th for its eroding effect?
@@theoldgod9 I'm a mrigashirsa Moon and Venus native
@@jamesrmosbeyii1122 yeah for sure, if it's eroding though.
It could very well be work related, hence 10th, like for online clinical psychologists, who just talk serious online!!
Is fantasy writing related to 12th house moon/mercury?
I believe so. Mercury in 12th. I write everything from songs to stories. Always wanted to write movie scripts too.
If 12th house doesn't have anything to do with sex than why does Venus gets exalted in pieces
12th is bed pleasures. So yes sex
Because Venusian efforts go well with the sort of limitless idealism of Pisces. Also Venusian indulgences can reach their heights in Pisces, sometimes to the point of excess. This is what I heard. Keep in mind exalted doesn't always mean good. It means the exalted planet finds is expressed to greatest effect in that sign.
I have lilith here in uttara bhadrapada! I really love and appreciate your lectures but these live chatters are distracting with their off topic questions they ask every video 😅
i should be more disciplined to ignore.
Could the ear connection to the 11th house be connected to saturn who rules air? So like hearing?? Or just getting ahead of myself
It's just a face. 2/12 are eyes. 3/11 are ears
Hi, this is just in Vedic?? 🙏🏻
Im confused bc in Vedic I have Rahu on 12 and in western is 11 house…
What if the 12th house is where the dragon hoards all the gold though? 🤔
You mean rahu?
@@parimal7528 No, I'm talking about a place.
It could be. Maybe invisible metaphysical gold. #3/4th #1/4th
@@theoldgod9 What does #3/4 and #1/4 mean?
@@nicpatean5946 I thought you'd know! I said it in relation to purva Bhadrapada nakshatra, falling in natural 12th in this day and age!
HEy Vic