Win your dream car & £50,000 with BOTB. They have over 150 cars to choose from and two dream car winners every week! Enter now 👉 bit.ly/BOTBs-Dream-Cars-Plus-50K
I don't think BOTB is quite the same as gambling any more than the National Lottery is but I do think online gambling has ruined many peoples lives and needs much tighter legislation or banning completely. Just my thoughts, but I do get a lot pf pleasure watching the folk that win the cars..brilliant. Only ever done it once at Edinburgh Airport, didn't win but always that thought that you might get Christian knocking on the door one day.
I personally think you’re wrong. The rear is gorgeous and the design cues can be seen as a modern E type. The F Types rear is perfect and the face lift looks fantastic for the 21st C Sounds great to.
I've never fully appreciated the F-Type, but in this spec and in that gorgeous shade of silver I must admit it is one of the most beautifully designed cars I have ever seen
Looking straight on, yes. I think he meant the side profile how the arc of the roof is continuous and seems like it should meet a spoiler of some sort. The AMG GT has the same issue and looks much better in the AMG GTR trim.
P450 actual non RRP is about 15-20% off. Not everyone (me) especially wants a track type coupe though, appeal of the V8 in a GT package is great. Chalk and Cheese cars and the prices are not as stated.
I definitely think Jag make cars where the thrills are more accessible on the road, the current 911 is so competent it needs a track to show what it can do
I've got one in white with black rims. My business partner has a 911 GTS. The Porsche is definitely quicker, but the Jag looks *way* better side-by-side. Plus, the Jag feels big and powerful when you put your foot down, and the exhaust note sounds like something between a Mustang and an Aventador: sporty but thick and low. The Porsche feels like a speedy Go-Kart to drive. The 911 isn't over, obviously lol, but there are definitely some who would prefer this.
@@martinjplant then again to get an equivalent powered Porsche 911 is a minimum of 94k, by that point u can have a 575 hp f-type and id far rather have a fat v8 than a turbo 6 cylinder
I had for 3 years the v6s,and it was just glorius.i tested also the v8,but i think that the V6S (maybe whit a tune or the restyling P400 version)is the perfect engine for this car,such a shame that is no longer available I dont know if the comparaison whit the 911 is fair,for me they are two different type of cars for two different porpouse
Wanted a facelift model, so went for a 2 ltr. Lighter front end, well balanced & quick enough, Just couldn't see the rationale for a 5 ltr and has the best rear too. Highly recommend one.
@@jonesjones4036 hahahahah right!!! I highly respect 911's. Particularly 997's and 993's...but yeah...F Type R coupe pre-facelift is on another level for petrolheads. I wish they haven't that TATA made steel in the chassis and a bit of Porsche anti-rust and reliability engineering. That'd be the perfect GT
@@jonesjones4036 But the Jaguar doesn't perform, that's the problem. However, it might be a bargain because the price you actually pay is far below the recommended retail price.
@@tjb7284 You've never driven one have you?! There's something called the F-Type grin...it's intangible. I love mine & I was initially looking at & drove a lot of 911 Carreras. If you spend your time on a track...ofc get the 911 but the real world brings them a lot closer together. The only downside is the infotainment but meh, seriously if that's high on your priority list, then yeah, move along! 🤣
Jay, I'd like you to test the 4 cylinder, just to see if it really is "that bad". The difference in cost is like £25-30k according to this video. The car and experience should be fun enough and special enough that 300bhp (340 with a stage 1 map) is enough to have good fun at a cheaper price point. This, coming from a UA-camr who regularly praises the lesser Boxster/ Cayman. Not everyone has 80k to spend on a V8 and it's running costs.
If I really wanted an F Type and couldn't afford the new one (but could afford the 55k one), I'd get a 35k 2015 RWD F type R. Please don't mention reliability because 35k
I wasn't too sure on the facelift when it came out but in these less bold colours such as this grey, it looks stunning especially with the metal accents 😀
While the other guy made his point in an entirely unhelpful way, even as a Porsche owner I kind of agree with him. That said, a bit of feedback to the channel isn't bad and James has focused on that stuff a little heavily recently.
@@gpzfan5272 Why thank you kind sir, while calling someone a snowflake is I am sure wit and repartee unmatched in your world and worthy of praise bordering on adulation, it is really not as crushing as you appear to think. Since a snowflake is a miracle of nature in being original and unique it is hardly an insult that a person of intelligence, or even mild intelligence, would apply and its application reflects upon more on its claimant's intolerance and ignorance then something of genuine or even modest affront. Since all you have done is suggest the original post is unique and original.
“The age of 911 is over” sounds like poxy click-bait that I should just swipe past. (And I have two 911’s). But it’s a James video, so I might not like the result, but I know James doesn’t bullshit us. PLUS he’s got the vagabond coat on, so I’m going to settle back and watch.
@@peterwatts9893 maybe I get away with it, because James knows I’m a genuine fan of his, and the coat jokes are just that. And yes, I think for the money, Jag are onto something here. 911’s have become silly-money these days. What’s worse, is that the whole community has convinced themselves that they need certain options to keep their 911 sellable in the future, and boy does Porsche know how to capitalize on that! When I spec’d my GT3, I avoided ALL the hairdresser options, stuck with manual transmission, carbon brakes, carbon bucket seats and splashed-out on silver seat belts. Sod the rest of the list, they can keep it all!
Yep, I would buy a low mileage 997 GTS instead of the 4 pot (and property make money when you sell) and have a 997 GT3 for the 90ish K for the V8. Again, you'll defo not loose money
I own a 2019 F-Type V8 and I’ll agree with you. The Porsche is just better engineered and has more history to build on.But the biggest difference is the cost to maintain, insurance etc speaking only where I live. My F-type has been very reliable, fuel consumption is reasonable if you don’t (drive dynamic) all the time. I had a 2009 Aston Martin DB9 I loved it but it was a lover of the garage repair man something I despise when spending a lot of money on cars. So I’ll say the Jag has been a pleasant surprise from a maintenance perspective, and it sounds absolutely amazing in dynamic mode. I think comparing this to a Porsche however is a bit of a reach.
The F type has a few tricks up it’s sleeve which make it a great alternative to a 911. First is the way it moves down the road and the whole package comes together as an experience that defies the numbers. The second is the road/tyre noise which, for long distance or daily use, allows the F to be so much more. It seems a small point but in the 911 there’s no escaping it, where the F can convert itself into a relaxed and quiet drive. Maybe I’m just getting old 😟
@@TIMSANDYSURF I would agree with you on those points ……. I’ve just jumped out of a 911 and into an SL to tour Spain for 3 months - Loving the comfort although the steering is verging on yachting !
I still don't like this facelift. The original one is massively better looking in my opinion. My favourite is the original V6 coupe, largely to do with the central exhaust pipes and I think it's one of the finest sounding V6 engines ever.
Doesn't seem to be any worse than other cars. BMW M4 started about the same price in 2013 and both can be had for about £25k now, some ropey BMWs actually less than the Jag.
JLR products are very unreliable our local dealer struggles to keep up with the amount of vehicles being returned for repair it certainly opened my eyes to the real truth of JLR products
Its the most reliable sports car period. I didn't use my 2014's 7 year /100K mile bumper to bumper factory warranty. Not once. Meanwhile, Porsche has 2x the historical maintenance cost of second place trainwreck BMW. Porsches are PUTRID cars, and a 700HP F-Type utterly DECIMATES a triple price GT2RS. Lots of videos showing that, even stock vs stock.
I definitely think Jag make cars where the thrills are more accessible on the road, the current 911 is so competent it needs a track to show what it can do
Just to think "The Age of 911 is over" because of this car is delusional, this cannot make a dent to 911's heritage, performance nor sales... Before the age of 911s is over - not only the F-Type but the whole Jaguar company will cease to exist.
I agree with Jay, I have never had this power in a car, but from my experience with bikes In daily use full power is unusable on the roads, you burn through brakes and tyres like they are going out of fashion. Designers know this so if it is driven hard regularly, bits break.
Everyone else in the world would say it’s the most beautiful coupe available! The 4 cylinder works really well in the car giving a good handling balance and actually a pleasant exhaust note! Much better than a 718, which doesn’t have an particularly impressive engine either. The media system is better than anything Porsche offer except for the latest high end ones. I have owned a 981 Boxster S, which is a great car, but the F-Type does many things so much better! Have you driven the new P300?
From what I’ve heard, the reason why the supercharged V6 version of the F-Type is no longer offered in Europe is probably because it didn’t sell as well compared to the V8 and even the 4 cylinder turbo.
@@robert7622 I would say the odds are terrible , , I do £12.00 per week and usually get between £2-£4.50 back in credit . It’s a bit of fun tbh I like seeing how close I get to the ball , , I can imagine some blokes do a fortune on BOTB , I see how it can draw you in
Oh i dont think so, Jaguar will not sell this car anymore in a couple of years when the bafoons ate going full retar.. i mean electric, while the 911 still has his boxter engine.
There's a lot more difference than just software between this and the 575 hp version. Also with a supercharged engine, especially a roots type one, you cannot gain the amount of power you suggested just with a map. Changes to the pulley would be required as well as fueling and cooling .
@@olismith2782 agreed - don’t see many of those. Mine is black which of course is the toughest color to keep looking nice. That Jaguar soft clear coat is brutal
@@jackemerson1171 black and white were colours I didn't want. My first pick on a non 400 was British racing green. But really hard to find a good one. I got Corris Grey.
Love the frank comments on the car, but I must say that similar comments need to be made about our host's dress sense which is non-existent. Too small coat in deadly dull 1950s grey looks horrific.
I'd take the LC500 too. Based on every review I've seen it's easily the best car for the money. It is a much bigger and heavier car though so not entirely comparable. Still, Lexus don't get many cars right but when they do...
“The gearbox in the jag is as good and quick as in the 911” .... 5 mins later.... “on down shift there can sometimes be a delay”. 😁. PDK is way beyond anything JLR can deliver ....
The difference being the 911 is timeless and will very likely increase in value, but the Jaguar will loose 70% of its value in 4 years and nobody will want one
Best value sports GT bar non, at 4years old. Most have done under 20k miles and Jaguar offer an "almost" manufacturers warranty upto 10yr old for around £600/yr. I got the dealer to throw in 2 years, which took some of the sting out of the typical 10% dealer premium. V6 is the sweetspot though. Plenty power for the road but 37mpg on a long run. 25-30mpg local short blast. Feel good factor off the scale.🤣🤣🤣🤣
classic jags are lovely :) - even the half-way house styling of X Type was appealing - would love to have had that in a Steed flared arch 2 dr coupe format (Toned down a tad and in BRG)
Actually, modern Jags are very reliable. They came 12th in the 2020 driver power survey. Beaten by the Japanese of course, but ahead of VW, BMW, Audi, Hyundai. Porsche did not even make the top 30! See here, scroll to the bottom for the table. www.carbuyer.co.uk/news/172392/the-best-car-brands-in-the-uk-driver-power-2020
@@andrewnorris5415 yeah Porsche really didnt do well on reliability people think they are bulletproof but that's not true.my uncles ex 911 now lol had shit loads of issues ended up costing him about 8k. Some French brands even beat the Germans.
Yep , I tend to agree. Except its the same as a Cayman / 911 thing , buy the Jag and every one who really doesn't enjoy actually driving a car will just think you couldnt afford an Aston Martin.
F-Type is a stunning car. One of the best looking cars of the last decade. If only the rear was a little bit longer... I own a classic 911 but I have a huge respect for Jags. I love the looks of XK and F-Type and one day I'll get one. Cheers and keep up the good work.
Great review! As always! Interestingly, I think the styling of the front finally matches the rear, but now that I'm used to the old styling, I feel like the overall shape and the rear hasn't had enough freshness added compared to the face.
The lack of low down power is most likely due to the supercharger, which robs engine power to turn the supercharger. This is usually noticeable at low engine speeds when the supercharger isn't returning enough power to offset the power it takes away from the engine. Honestly, the 5.0 could easily make 400hp without the supercharger and would feel way more punchy at lower engine speeds. Question; can a simple ECU tune upgrade the P450 to 575 hp, anyone done it?
That is probably true and I like that fact as I'll be looking for a 5yr old. Also Jaguar eventually sorts out the software with updates so should be more reliable by then.
@@antto6490 i wasn't the one starting the comparison, and the question was more about holding value, wich means the percentage of depreciation per year is what matters most, and the 911 wins there
@@antto6490 I'm replying specifically the statement he made which was this specific model vs the 911. In the USA, which is the R model, it's $103k vs a Carrera 4 at $106k, I'd rather have the 911 Carrera 4 because in 3 years, 5 years or 10 years people will still want the 911, can't say the same about the F-Type.
Nice review, but I can’t accept that new front end. The original looked fun I thought, and Jaguarish... If this passed you, it could be easily mistaken for an Audi, with that ‘I mean business look’....It has lost its soul for me...
@@MrTruth111 the new V8 vantage starts at £124k before options so realistically you be looking at 135k with just a few options that's 40k more than a top of the line F type R
@@MrTruth111 Aston Martin is very expensive when compared to a Jag (Let's not even talk about cost of maintenance, cost or parts ... etc) ... I wouldn't call that a bargain
I’ve learnt 3 things in this (rather excellent) review: 1. The new look of the F Type is a grower. 2. James really hates the 4 Cylinder model. 3. As an alternative to the ubiquitous (rear engines) choice in the 80-100k sports car class, this car deserves to find many happy customers.
It is such a beautiful car. Maybe prettier than the current 911 (and I've always been a fan of the 911). The 4 cylinder is obviously less desirable but it makes sense in countries with stupidly high taxes on displacement.
Good video, nice car - you've become a really good reviewer. As it happens I liked the pre-facelift V6S, if I was getting one now it would be the P450 2WD - not sure whether I would choose this, a GT4 (about which you had reservations, but I like my sports cars to come with manual gears), or a new M3/M4. But I'll be keeping my M2C - less luxury, less style, but more practical, less money and just as good to drive. Having slated the steering when you tested one, you really should have another go.
One of these could never replace my 911 for the one factor that seems to get overlooked... my 911 has useable backseats! What other decent sports car does?!
Hello Jay, superb review as always. While we differ on the aesthetics (I'm over the moon on the Coupe's looks, and love the snap, crackle, and pop exhaust), you've captured the essence of why I chose an R Coupe over a 911. While I do wish Jag would work up a lightweight version, otherwise, not a single regret.
you're right most people shouting the design too mellow...for me just ELEGANT... even the grill is larger than it needed to be... for me, headlights now horizontal,more proportionally sized to compliment its grill... most automotive headlights are to small [audi,Mercedes] or tall [suzuki swift,e-pace,Nissan gtr] relative to size of their grills..they call my preference is myth of the yesteryear style...
Win your dream car & £50,000 with BOTB. They have over 150 cars to choose from and two dream car winners every week! Enter now 👉 bit.ly/BOTBs-Dream-Cars-Plus-50K
1 month? how long is the backlog?
Jaguar over a 911? Lol very funny. Especially with 911 still offering a manual
@@ekhoury1000 yet very few people actually buy the 911 with a manual
Genuinely don’t get why anyone would enter BOTB over a raffle
@@GoblinGreen2021 It’s business. Or are you gonna start paying directly for his content?
The F-Type is a Mustang that left the farm, went to school, got his MBA, and now works in finance
It’s the Hellcat that can read and has all of its teeth.😊
@@KentBuchlayou got me
I walked by a new F-Type twice before l noticed it wasn't a Mustang.
botb and all that gambling is an absolute Cancer in the car youtube world
Glad somebody brings it up
I don't think BOTB is quite the same as gambling any more than the National Lottery is but I do think online gambling has ruined many peoples lives and needs much tighter legislation or banning completely. Just my thoughts, but I do get a lot pf pleasure watching the folk that win the cars..brilliant. Only ever done it once at Edinburgh Airport, didn't win but always that thought that you might get Christian knocking on the door one day.
@@stephenauty2402 LOL National Lottery is GAMBLING just like Botb c'mon now bud. You seem like an older guy too... Judging from your name lol
Unless you win.
I'm done with all those ceramic coatings.
I think the back end is elegantly sublime. Gorgeous!
Agreed
One of the best rear ends for sure.
You're talking about the car, right?
@@cheshirered9204 Haha!
Agreed. 1st time I've heard anyone criticise it's ass! This and the noise are the F-Type's best features.
I personally think you’re wrong. The rear is gorgeous and the design cues can be seen as a modern E type. The F Types rear is perfect and the face lift looks fantastic for the 21st C
Sounds great to.
i have 16 plate R convertible - i love the rear - subjective i guess
Yeah the backend is unmatched by any car on the road. Absolute masterpiece of design.
Exactly, beautiful rear end design.
Rear absolutely gorgeous.
Front end now looks like an audi. Should do better for example use the front end of the d- type concept car as inspiration.
The rear end of the f type is gorgeous there is nothing on the road to compare it to.Without a dout it’s one of the best looking sports cars today.
Probably, the most beautiful rear-end in the business.
The PS5 just laying in the boot is beyond flexing atm
He did say it was £1million worth of contraband 🤷
I've never fully appreciated the F-Type, but in this spec and in that gorgeous shade of silver I must admit it is one of the most beautifully designed cars I have ever seen
The backend of that car is one of the most beautiful cars ever, how can he not see that.
Great video tho, love the content and attention to detail
100%.
Looking straight on, yes. I think he meant the side profile how the arc of the roof is continuous and seems like it should meet a spoiler of some sort. The AMG GT has the same issue and looks much better in the AMG GTR trim.
The car is too narrow and too short. From the back it likes like a woman with no ass.
Ditto that bro ........ and what about that lovely profile? Anyone old enough (gulp!) to remember the Datsun 240Z ?
De gustibus non disputandum est.
I so want one in my life. A rare mythical sleek and elegant machine. The PS5, that is.
loser.
@@rebeltvr6046 Why?
@@rebeltvr6046 why wtf
@@rebeltvr6046 👎
You virgins would rather have a PS5 over a Jag F-Type? lol. smh.
P450 RWD Base price £70,499
Cayman 4.0 GTS (400ps) Base price £64,480
CAYMAN ALL DAY LONG. Sorry.
And you can get a MANUAL
P450 actual non RRP is about 15-20% off. Not everyone (me) especially wants a track type coupe though, appeal of the V8 in a GT package is great. Chalk and Cheese cars and the prices are not as stated.
@@gobinduppal4429 yes and even if you get the carbon ceramic brake kit still the same price as the base p450
In an industry of turbo charged cars having a supercharged car is pretty refreshing.
Imagine if a na car came out.
I definitely think Jag make cars where the thrills are more accessible on the road, the current 911 is so competent it needs a track to show what it can do
😆
They are thrills for the wrong reasons
Impossible to compare any of Porsche's long line of ugly cars with this Jag.
"The age of 911 is over".🤣
I know lol.
I've got one in white with black rims. My business partner has a 911 GTS. The Porsche is definitely quicker, but the Jag looks *way* better side-by-side. Plus, the Jag feels big and powerful when you put your foot down, and the exhaust note sounds like something between a Mustang and an Aventador: sporty but thick and low. The Porsche feels like a speedy Go-Kart to drive. The 911 isn't over, obviously lol, but there are definitely some who would prefer this.
Yes that is an hilarious comment 😂
Nice Jag, but sadly it will always be a niche car that will sell in relatively small numbers
yeah... he kind of stepped in doo doo with that one. 😆
@@anthonyreed480 the 911 is on another level.
I'll take a 911 any day over this
Me too. Not a chance I’d drop £85k on one of these.
@@martinjplant then again to get an equivalent powered Porsche 911 is a minimum of 94k, by that point u can have a 575 hp f-type and id far rather have a fat v8 than a turbo 6 cylinder
I’ll take a Porsche 911 over this any day ,might cost more but I don’t care, more reliable I’m afraid , better resale as well
Any car that sounds like Richard Burton gargling whisky while hiding inside a dust bin gets my vote.
Superb description
I love forgetting the milk!
I had for 3 years the v6s,and it was just glorius.i tested also the v8,but i think that the V6S (maybe whit a tune or the restyling P400 version)is the perfect engine for this car,such a shame that is no longer available
I dont know if the comparaison whit the 911 is fair,for me they are two different type of cars for two different porpouse
Wanted a facelift model, so went for a 2 ltr. Lighter front end, well balanced & quick enough, Just couldn't see the rationale for a 5 ltr and has the best rear too. Highly recommend one.
Great choice, though don’t dismiss the P450 in the future - just as well balanced as the 2.0 with the AWD and new suspension
Nothing wrong with the 2litre. It’s an excellent engine, realistic daily driver in the real world and I’ve owned 3.0 too.
I have the 3.0 I crank and upper pulley and viezu tune now making 477 bhp on dyno love it.
Lovely, but it's no 911
You’re right it looks sooo much better
@@jonesjones4036 hahahahah right!!! I highly respect 911's. Particularly 997's and 993's...but yeah...F Type R coupe pre-facelift is on another level for petrolheads. I wish they haven't that TATA made steel in the chassis and a bit of Porsche anti-rust and reliability engineering. That'd be the perfect GT
@@jonesjones4036 But the Jaguar doesn't perform, that's the problem. However, it might be a bargain because the price you actually pay is far below the recommended retail price.
@@tjb7284 You've never driven one have you?! There's something called the F-Type grin...it's intangible. I love mine & I was initially looking at & drove a lot of 911 Carreras. If you spend your time on a track...ofc get the 911 but the real world brings them a lot closer together. The only downside is the infotainment but meh, seriously if that's high on your priority list, then yeah, move along! 🤣
@@tjb7284 Performs better than any 993.
Jay, I'd like you to test the 4 cylinder, just to see if it really is "that bad".
The difference in cost is like £25-30k according to this video.
The car and experience should be fun enough and special enough that 300bhp (340 with a stage 1 map) is enough to have good fun at a cheaper price point.
This, coming from a UA-camr who regularly praises the lesser Boxster/ Cayman.
Not everyone has 80k to spend on a V8 and it's running costs.
At that price I wonder if you couldn't just buy the 4 and stick an xk 5.0 in it 🤷🏻♂️
@@Fred8000W you could probably stick a 5.0 from the F-Type in it for the price difference; resale would be hit though.
If I really wanted an F Type and couldn't afford the new one (but could afford the 55k one), I'd get a 35k 2015 RWD F type R. Please don't mention reliability because 35k
I wasn't too sure on the facelift when it came out but in these less bold colours such as this grey, it looks stunning especially with the metal accents 😀
I tried hard to like the new look....but somehow prefer the original F-Type. Both are top tier awesome....the old one just feels more pure.
I predict monster levels of depreciation.
........and is that a bad thing?
@@SuperSetright If you buy it new :)
@@SuperSetright Nope not as a potential second hand buy.
@@rogerwennstrom6677 yep
@@SuperSetright not a bad thing if you are planning to buy one
What! One of the best rear ends I've ever seen.
he's tripping ...
The Porsche bashing and click bait titles are starting to become tedious.
Don’t watch then if you’re so sensitive to someone’s opinion about a lump of metal you snowflake
While the other guy made his point in an entirely unhelpful way, even as a Porsche owner I kind of agree with him. That said, a bit of feedback to the channel isn't bad and James has focused on that stuff a little heavily recently.
@@gpzfan5272 Why thank you kind sir, while calling someone a snowflake is I am sure wit and repartee unmatched in your world and worthy of praise bordering on adulation, it is really not as crushing as you appear to think.
Since a snowflake is a miracle of nature in being original and unique it is hardly an insult that a person of intelligence, or even mild intelligence, would apply and its application reflects upon more on its claimant's intolerance and ignorance then something of genuine or even modest affront. Since all you have done is suggest the original post is unique and original.
“The age of 911 is over” sounds like poxy click-bait that I should just swipe past. (And I have two 911’s).
But it’s a James video, so I might not like the result, but I know James doesn’t bullshit us.
PLUS he’s got the vagabond coat on, so I’m going to settle back and watch.
If i were English bodied, I would wear 9 coats when driving so I can barely fit behind the steering wheel and in the camera 😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆😆
911 age isn’t over ...but they have abandoned the price points this Jag sits at ...so sort of true
Mentioned “the coat” on The Woke Guys Lotus vid and it got deleted..... twice!!!
@@peterwatts9893 maybe I get away with it, because James knows I’m a genuine fan of his, and the coat jokes are just that.
And yes, I think for the money, Jag are onto something here. 911’s have become silly-money these days. What’s worse, is that the whole community has convinced themselves that they need certain options to keep their 911 sellable in the future, and boy does Porsche know how to capitalize on that!
When I spec’d my GT3, I avoided ALL the hairdresser options, stuck with manual transmission, carbon brakes, carbon bucket seats and splashed-out on silver seat belts. Sod the rest of the list, they can keep it all!
@@peterwatts9893I might be a little too late but what is "The Woke Guys Lotus vid"?
Budget Aston maybe but not better than a 911. I will agree to disagree James !
Yep, I would buy a low mileage 997 GTS instead of the 4 pot (and property make money when you sell) and have a 997 GT3 for the 90ish K for the V8. Again, you'll defo not loose money
I own a 2019 F-Type V8 and I’ll agree with you. The Porsche is just better engineered and has more history to build on.But the biggest difference is the cost to maintain, insurance etc speaking only where I live. My F-type has been very reliable, fuel consumption is reasonable if you don’t (drive dynamic) all the time. I had a 2009 Aston Martin DB9 I loved it but it was a lover of the garage repair man something I despise when spending a lot of money on cars. So I’ll say the Jag has been a pleasant surprise from a maintenance perspective, and it sounds absolutely amazing in dynamic mode. I think comparing this to a Porsche however is a bit of a reach.
The F type has a few tricks up it’s sleeve which make it a great alternative to a 911.
First is the way it moves down the road and the whole package comes together as an experience that defies the numbers.
The second is the road/tyre noise which, for long distance or daily use, allows the F to be so much more. It seems a small point but in the 911 there’s no escaping it, where the F can convert itself into a relaxed and quiet drive. Maybe I’m just getting old 😟
@@TIMSANDYSURF I would agree with you on those points ……. I’ve just jumped out of a 911 and into an SL to tour Spain for 3 months - Loving the comfort although the steering is verging on yachting !
I have always loved Jaguars, I've been lucky enough to own several over the years and never had a bad one.
I have the now defunct 3.0 V6S now 2 years in. Got to admit I love it. Looks amazing, sounds amazing and turns heads.
The back end is sublime!
Are you wearing that coat and those trousers for a bet?
I still don't like this facelift. The original one is massively better looking in my opinion. My favourite is the original V6 coupe, largely to do with the central exhaust pipes and I think it's one of the finest sounding V6 engines ever.
Petrolped found the 4 pot F type to be pretty good. Thing for some people that will be good enough.
I tried the F-Type and bought one. Nuff said.
By saying it’s a proper jag, that means it Depreciates very badly lol.
And breaks a lot
Exactly so buy a used one and by then tge software gremlins would have been ironed out.
@@GadgetMart
How many have you had?
Doesn't seem to be any worse than other cars. BMW M4 started about the same price in 2013 and both can be had for about £25k now, some ropey BMWs actually less than the Jag.
@@jimgoodwin6294 just a few bottles why?
I have a air-cooled 993 but I'd take the F-Type over a modern 911 any day of the week.
Buy one of these and you'll get to know the dealerships mechanic by first name.....
JLR products are very unreliable our local dealer struggles to keep up with the amount of vehicles being returned for repair it certainly opened my eyes to the real truth of JLR products
Its the most reliable sports car period. I didn't use my 2014's 7 year /100K mile bumper to bumper factory warranty. Not once. Meanwhile, Porsche has 2x the historical maintenance cost of second place trainwreck BMW. Porsches are PUTRID cars, and a 700HP F-Type utterly DECIMATES a triple price GT2RS. Lots of videos showing that, even stock vs stock.
I definitely think Jag make cars where the thrills are more accessible on the road, the current 911 is so competent it needs a track to show what it can do
Always enjoy a jag getting a good review 👌
Haha! Jaguar is Junk. Only a Brit would even think about buying one instead of a 911. And I agree the age of the 911 is over.
The front looks like a big MX5 - the previous version was prettier and more Jaguar.
Exactly !!!
Just to think "The Age of 911 is over" because of this car is delusional, this cannot make a dent to 911's heritage, performance nor sales... Before the age of 911s is over - not only the F-Type but the whole Jaguar company will cease to exist.
I agree with Jay, I have never had this power in a car, but from my experience with bikes In daily use full power is unusable on the roads, you burn through brakes and tyres like they are going out of fashion. Designers know this so if it is driven hard regularly, bits break.
I have a 2017 F-Type in loire blue. I have yet to see any car of any kind on the road that looks better from the rear.
This is it. This is the car I'd buy if won lotto. Imagine this car in acid green or mclaren orange colour. 🤫🤔😍
Everyone else in the world would say it’s the most beautiful coupe available! The 4 cylinder works really well in the car giving a good handling balance and actually a pleasant exhaust note! Much better than a 718, which doesn’t have an particularly impressive engine either. The media system is better than anything Porsche offer except for the latest high end ones. I have owned a 981 Boxster S, which is a great car, but the F-Type does many things so much better! Have you driven the new P300?
I'm sorry, but you're just wrong about the rear end. It is absolutely gorgeous!
Guy above in comments stated the whole car is "hideous"
...I guess he fancies Diane Abbott & Susan Boyle too!
Looks better than a 911, sounds better than a 911 plus it's a Jaaaaaag. Just wish they had the reliability.
From what I’ve heard, the reason why the supercharged V6 version of the F-Type is no longer offered in Europe is probably because it didn’t sell as well compared to the V8 and even the 4 cylinder turbo.
Ive sank so much money into BOTB. I deffo wouldnt recommend it unless you can afford to dump alot of cash into it.
It's made the owner's very rich.
It's a lottery for muppets lol...
I do BOTB , I do £11-£12 per week mhow much do you spend each week , I’m curious .
@@richardwells4370 What are the odds of winning against the value of the prize?
@@robert7622 I would say the odds are terrible , , I do £12.00 per week and usually get between £2-£4.50 back in credit . It’s a bit of fun tbh I like seeing how close I get to the ball , , I can imagine some blokes do a fortune on BOTB , I see how it can draw you in
Another great review but this car is massively out of date, especially in the tech department. If that’s your thing..
It's perfect for people who don't have an Ipad in place of their head....
Who cares about incessant tech all the time? It's a car not a laptop
Oh i dont think so, Jaguar will not sell this car anymore in a couple of years when the bafoons ate going full retar.. i mean electric, while the 911 still has his boxter engine.
I always liked the shape the old and this new one.
The elephant in the room ...The road tax is too high
...... seriously? Any car over 40k gets luxury car tax which is £500 a year. Who cares? If you’re looking at this car you don’t check the tax.
When compared with the £30k depreciation in the first 2 years? Another comment without any joined up thinking!!!
@@abacusfencing what? Check autotrader 🤦♂️ a 2014 F type which was 60k new is 25k.
There's a lot more difference than just software between this and the 575 hp version.
Also with a supercharged engine, especially a roots type one, you cannot gain the amount of power you suggested just with a map.
Changes to the pulley would be required as well as fueling and cooling .
You.. you don't like the back end of the F-TYPE? Come again!
The V6 was the sweet spot In my opinion. I have all the noise, drama and fun I want from mine. Shame Jaguar got rid and went down the 2lt route.
I think the 400 sport would be the sweetspot tbh.
@@olismith2782 got one and love it
@@jackemerson1171 i've got a 380 v6. Finding a decent silver 400 in my price range was proving difficult
@@olismith2782 agreed - don’t see many of those. Mine is black which of course is the toughest color to keep looking nice. That Jaguar soft clear coat is brutal
@@jackemerson1171 black and white were colours I didn't want. My first pick on a non 400 was British racing green. But really hard to find a good one. I got Corris Grey.
Id go for the LC500 or pay down for an older manual F Type R
This is fine, but just not enticing compared to what else can be done with the money
F-Type R was never available with manual, though. Manual was only available on F-Type V6 and V6 S.
@@AntoniusTyas Oh right forgot that.
This Jag body is a full aluminium marvel it looks like an airplane airframe I saw it in castle Bromwich few years ago
Love the frank comments on the car, but I must say that similar comments need to be made about our host's dress sense which is non-existent. Too small coat in deadly dull 1950s grey looks horrific.
Lexus L500 for me I think but yet to drive one or an F type. Love the engine note though
I'd take the LC500 too. Based on every review I've seen it's easily the best car for the money. It is a much bigger and heavier car though so not entirely comparable. Still, Lexus don't get many cars right but when they do...
Jags are the only European cars keeping it old school, no turbos!!!!!!
“The gearbox in the jag is as good and quick as in the 911” .... 5 mins later.... “on down shift there can sometimes be a delay”. 😁. PDK is way beyond anything JLR can deliver ....
F-Type is the perfect $70k car
Nice one James 👍🏻I’d take the jag for it’s V8 soundtrack but the 911 for it’s low depreciation and reliability. Win win either way
Smaller pulley and a remap away at a cost of about £1,000 to turn this into a 600hp car.
The difference being the 911 is timeless and will very likely increase in value, but the Jaguar will loose 70% of its value in 4 years and nobody will want one
Um no. When it looses 70% of its value, everybody will want one. Think about it.
@@bigmacdaddy1234 Who wants jaguar without warranty? :D
Best value sports GT bar non, at 4years old. Most have done under 20k miles and Jaguar offer an "almost" manufacturers warranty upto 10yr old for around £600/yr.
I got the dealer to throw in 2 years, which took some of the sting out of the typical 10% dealer premium.
V6 is the sweetspot though.
Plenty power for the road but 37mpg on a long run. 25-30mpg local short blast.
Feel good factor off the scale.🤣🤣🤣🤣
Nobody wanting one then is why when i get my 1st gen R I can get a 90k car for 40k with just 20k on the clock. Sounds like a good deal to me
loses loses loses
Picked one up last week. This review nails it. Spot on.
Owned a 911?
@@simmo2745 i love Jags but the F type is not comparable to a 911 in my opinion. F type is a good looking gt coupe, a 911 is a very capable sports car
Unlike Jaguars of old, this car is not a timeless beauty.
classic jags are lovely :) - even the half-way house styling of X Type was appealing - would love to have had that in a Steed flared arch 2 dr coupe format (Toned down a tad and in BRG)
Completely lost me at "the shape of the F-Type never appealed to me". That rear end is pure sexy.
These make a great noise.
I *wish* it were as reliable as a 911. If I were wealthy, you’d find one in my garage. Thanks for the great vid!
Actually, modern Jags are very reliable. They came 12th in the 2020 driver power survey. Beaten by the Japanese of course, but ahead of VW, BMW, Audi, Hyundai. Porsche did not even make the top 30! See here, scroll to the bottom for the table. www.carbuyer.co.uk/news/172392/the-best-car-brands-in-the-uk-driver-power-2020
@@andrewnorris5415 yeah Porsche really didnt do well on reliability people think they are bulletproof but that's not true.my uncles ex 911 now lol had shit loads of issues ended up costing him about 8k. Some French brands even beat the Germans.
BUT DOES IT COME WITH THREE PEDALS?!?!
Yep , I tend to agree. Except its the same as a Cayman / 911 thing , buy the Jag and every one who really doesn't enjoy actually driving a car will just think you couldnt afford an Aston Martin.
F-Type is a stunning car. One of the best looking cars of the last decade. If only the rear was a little bit longer... I own a classic 911 but I have a huge respect for Jags. I love the looks of XK and F-Type and one day I'll get one. Cheers and keep up the good work.
Great review! As always!
Interestingly, I think the styling of the front finally matches the rear, but now that I'm used to the old styling, I feel like the overall shape and the rear hasn't had enough freshness added compared to the face.
Because it doesn't need it. Timeless rear end.
The rear makes this car.
The lack of low down power is most likely due to the supercharger, which robs engine power to turn the supercharger. This is usually noticeable at low engine speeds when the supercharger isn't returning enough power to offset the power it takes away from the engine. Honestly, the 5.0 could easily make 400hp without the supercharger and would feel way more punchy at lower engine speeds. Question; can a simple ECU tune upgrade the P450 to 575 hp, anyone done it?
Willing to bet in 10 years the 911 holds its value over the F-Type P450.
Yeah porsche brand image is better, but me personally i would buy an ftype r over any 911, except the turbo s
@@antto6490 sorry bue the comment above was specific to 911s and in Portugal (the market im in) u could get an f-type for less than a 997
That is probably true and I like that fact as I'll be looking for a 5yr old. Also Jaguar eventually sorts out the software with updates so should be more reliable by then.
@@antto6490 i wasn't the one starting the comparison, and the question was more about holding value, wich means the percentage of depreciation per year is what matters most, and the 911 wins there
@@antto6490 I'm replying specifically the statement he made which was this specific model vs the 911. In the USA, which is the R model, it's $103k vs a Carrera 4 at $106k, I'd rather have the 911 Carrera 4 because in 3 years, 5 years or 10 years people will still want the 911, can't say the same about the F-Type.
Slower, older, heavier, less reliable than a 911. The king has been de-throned! :p
More fun to drive though....
I love he looks like he just swindled the owner out of it via some doorstep warranty scam 🤔
You should be so lucky.
I'm glad they didnt try and fit seats in the back.
Nice review, but I can’t accept that new front end. The original looked fun I thought, and Jaguarish... If this passed you, it could be easily mistaken for an Audi, with that ‘I mean business look’....It has lost its soul for me...
Agree 100%. The new face is ok, but also generic. The old one was original.
For the looks, engine and experience ... It's a real bargain for the money💰 ... which no other competitor can offer 🥂
It will probably the last proper Jag with jaguar wanting to become an electric crossover brand
@@Thanos.m I don't feel very good thinking of the future of cars 😐
how about an aston martin? (genuine question)
@@MrTruth111 the new V8 vantage starts at £124k before options so realistically you be looking at 135k with just a few options that's 40k more than a top of the line F type R
@@MrTruth111 Aston Martin is very expensive when compared to a Jag (Let's not even talk about cost of maintenance, cost or parts ... etc) ... I wouldn't call that a bargain
I’ve learnt 3 things in this (rather excellent) review:
1. The new look of the F Type is a grower.
2. James really hates the 4 Cylinder model.
3. As an alternative to the ubiquitous (rear engines) choice in the 80-100k sports car class, this car deserves to find many happy customers.
It is such a beautiful car. Maybe prettier than the current 911 (and I've always been a fan of the 911).
The 4 cylinder is obviously less desirable but it makes sense in countries with stupidly high taxes on displacement.
The 4 cyl version is more desirable to me - 300 hp is plenty in the real world, and being lighter the car turns and brakes better
Good video, nice car - you've become a really good reviewer. As it happens I liked the pre-facelift V6S, if I was getting one now it would be the P450 2WD - not sure whether I would choose this, a GT4 (about which you had reservations, but I like my sports cars to come with manual gears), or a new M3/M4. But I'll be keeping my M2C - less luxury, less style, but more practical, less money and just as good to drive. Having slated the steering when you tested one, you really should have another go.
We saw this video coming miles away. Keep your Jaguar and your deal with Jaguar! Unsubscribed. BTW Porsche 911 > Mercedes GTR >>> Jaguar F-type.
Could u expand on what u mean here bud? I didnt understand ur comment
Looooooolllll
Great review! When are you getting in an M3/4?...really looking forward to your honest review of that car, beyond all the hype.
Too heavy and ugly. Pre facelift much better.
One of these could never replace my 911 for the one factor that seems to get overlooked... my 911 has useable backseats! What other decent sports car does?!
I had a 996tt...the seats are not useable save for baby seats...I did that....a kid, sure. An adult. No way.
Hello Jay, superb review as always. While we differ on the aesthetics (I'm over the moon on the Coupe's looks, and love the snap, crackle, and pop exhaust), you've captured the essence of why I chose an R Coupe over a 911. While I do wish Jag would work up a lightweight version, otherwise, not a single regret.
Got to say, I prefer the original styling of the f type. It does sound awesome though. Original in manual is the one for me
~~ All Jaguar had to do was bring back the 2014 car and resolve the quality issues...
you're right most people shouting the design too mellow...for me just ELEGANT... even the grill is larger than it needed to be... for me, headlights now horizontal,more proportionally sized to compliment its grill... most automotive headlights are to small [audi,Mercedes] or tall [suzuki swift,e-pace,Nissan gtr] relative to size of their grills..they call my preference is myth of the yesteryear style...
“I’ll take a Jag over a 911” said no one ever
The 2 liter is Perfect 👌
What a great intro, that exhaust sound 🤤