LD Systems ICOA 15 A BT Powered Speaker review and Teardown!
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- Опубліковано 6 жов 2024
- In this chapter of review and teardown, we explore the interesting design of the LD systems ICOA 15 A BT powered coaxial PA loudspeaker. You will get to see the guts of the system like we always love to do.
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After watching this video I was so impressed that I bought one. Received today, and I have to say it sounds absolutely fantastic, and definitely worth it. So thanks to you and this video 😊 Subscribed 👍
Best review on the Icoa so far 🔊
I personally own the12” versions of these. I can say the quality is over the top. The price does not match the speaker… but in a good way. They sound, act, perform better than any price point like this. I own QSC K12.2’s also. These are not quite K12.2’s but close.
I got unlucky and had a bad amp on one of my Icoa 12a's but now I have two good speakers I agree with you. These sounded fantastic tonight along with my LD Dave 18g3 sub. These have to be THE best PA speaker that you can get for under £300 in the UK. No competition.
@@jespurrier Was amp dead on arrival?
@@MobilediscowirralCoUk not dead on arrival but half dead... It didn't sound right and then it went completely leaving only a tweeter so it must have been faulty anyway and then totally went.
@@jespurrierAre yours still working? Can't decide btwn the 12s or 15s...
@@countroyhifi8730 yeah mine have been ok since... I don't use them very much though. If you don't ever plan on using them with a sub then I guess the 15's would be the best option with more low end but if with a sub then 12's all the way. Plus they're not light at 20jg for the 12's so the 15's will be lumps. I'm not into 15's personally as I'm a singer and they don't suit vocals as well as 12's and 10's. 15's will deffo project more though I think. I'd like to hear them. The tweeters on these need careful EQ as they can be harsh.
I brought a pair Icoa 15 from zzounds $799 with the no credit check pay monthly plan these speakers are great for the price build Quality is top notch the look of them are great they are just heavy and don’t have a high pass xover and my opinion they aren’t loud Enuff to run with out a sub I run mine with Fbt maxx10sa 15” sub 900watts rms and it’s clean punchy sound
Yesssss!!!!!! Absolutely amazing! I'm legitimately buying a pair next week because of you guys.
You won’t be disappointed
@@rickcolbert2299. So how do these sound vs the original qsc K12’s I have two k12’s aand they always sound great!
How did these treat you?
I had never heard of these before I saw them at an out doors event last weekend. They sounded terrific just off a lap top.
I have been watching this on my iPad while playing the audio through the exact same speaker you just reviewed and I can 100% back up what your review said. I bought mine as a speaker to be used while playing in a live setting using it only as a stage volume speaker for my electronic drum kit! It is amazingly crisp, and every bit as punchy as you guys said it was! I am truly blown away!
I own their MON 12 A G3 and Maui 44 G2, their internals are exemplary.
Did you get the 15 or 12? I want to do the same for my kit. Also 1 or 2?
I got a single 15”. My thinking was to use it as stage volume for people dancing just in front of the stage, and it works great for that.
I got the LD Dave 18 G3 and they are really nice too!
I have one of these too. Really nice system.
Best review of the icoa ever!
Can you review the LD Systems icoa 18“subs?
Kind regards from Switzerland
I have 3 12A's and use them as floor monitors and My band is very happy with them. No boomy sound, crisp high's and they are loud enough to hear over a Mesa stack and an SVT.
Love LD Systems overall as a company. Almost every product of theirs I used has been phenomenal.
I own the Maui 44 columns & absolutely adore them. Been contemplating the ICOA line to replace my EV ELX200 system
We love them too! We had a meeting with them today at The NAMM Show and we're stoked about future possibilities!
bro this is the video that I was looking for....good job.....please do the same thing with their LD SYSTEM ICOA SUB 15/18"
Finally bought these yesterday after watching your review. I have the LD 18inch subwoofer 🔊 and can’t wait to connect it to these 15’s 👍🏽
I hear good things about their subwoofers...
Did you do it??
I have 6 of the 12's for floor monitors and always get compliments.. got 40+ shows on them, no issues
LD is cranking out some quality gear!
I have a monitor speaker from LDsystem it rock solid.
This brand Made serious stuff.
When permanently installing it, you can install vertical or horizontal. When you place it horizontally, your dispersion changes. So you rotate the horn to keep the proper acoustics.
Very good review and an interesting speaker. I hope they increase their retail availability in Canada.
Some feedback though: it's very clear that you know a great deal about speakers and amps but it is undermined by a small knowledge gap regarding microphones and mixers. I know some who would watch your review and hear a misunderstanding of phantom power and assume you don't know what you are talking about.
I'm not one of them, and will be back for your next video but wanted to leave some hopefully constructive feedback.
I agree , his comment about the mic's was off...the input sensitivity on the speakers are probably not very high....running through a mixer and you can get a lot more gain....phantom power has nothing to do with the result he was getting.
This is awesome! Keep up the great reviews!
Great informative video guys! I really appreciate the time and effort spent making this content. I am a mobile DJ that has a powerful passive set of tops and subs that of course requires that I bring a large amp rack. I also have a pair of EV ZLX 15P's used for small events. A few months ago I purchased a pair of LD Icoa 18 subs on a whim. They sound great with plenty of punch. I set the crossovers at 100Hz and my EV's have light duty, but still get over-powered by the Icoa subs. All of this said, my EV's are rated at 1000 watts/250 watts continuous and these are slightly higher. I'm thinking about adding a pair of these to the subs. Hopefully they will deliver the top end punch, but if not, I still can add the EV's! Thanks for making this great video!!
Ld systems are a super good and popular speaker brand they just dont fail you need to try out the maui 44g2 they are outstanding they are pricy but well worth it
Awesome review!!!
I'm wondering how there Subwoofers are and sound like.. Thanks for the review.. sounds like you finally came across something that you actually like..
Great review. Would love to see you crack into any of their coaxial monitors.
great review! glad to see you guys still jammin!! yes id seen a while back these speakers! 300 w rms? they gota jam! my older harbinger v2215 only put out 180 rms. so yeah theyll jam!! and great price!
heck yeah!
Another great review! Those speakers look and sound amazing. I didn't know they existed until I saw them here. I will be putting these on my future purchase list for sure. Thanks dudes!
Please test LD subwoofer
since the horn can be rotated when set on its side LD should make special brackets for the 12s that allow you to stack them up on top of each other since the sides are flat and you can stack them like line arrays
do the 18 inch ICOA sub plz!
Hey can you do the subwoofer 18 icoa subwoofer
PreSonus S8 has had coaxial :)
I wish their Air 15s were the same.
Looking at these after doing a bit of reviewing :)
Thanks for the review ☺️
It’s some people I know who swear by the presonus air series tops they say they are qsc killers but I haven’t really heard them to see how good or not any of them actually sound!
@HollywoodTheDj They really do sound solid and image Insanely well I mean due to of course the design.
Sound is logarithmic ...not linear.... so spl db doesn't directly correlate to rms power values
Also you DO NOT need phantom power for a dynamic mic ...just a proper pre amp gain stage ... (+60db and not +10db line level)
Saved me from saying it.
Plus the fact that being set to 0db at the input DOES NOT mean that there's still 15db of gain before peak. How much additional gain is possible would depend on the level of audio reaching the input of the speaker.
Can you do a teardown video of the LD Systems Maui 44 G2s?
Can you please do a review of the 18" bass bin.i heard it is amazing. Im looking foward to buy 1
@2 Dudes Audio Awesome review keep up the good work, my one arrived yesterday oh wow is it so nice, I may have to treat myself to the second one haha, my neighbours will hate me LMAO.
you got the phantom power wrong, phanto power doesn't give you more volume, it's just a different kind of microphone that needs external voltage to work, like Condenser capsule microphones. Also most PA systems aren't designed for direct microphone input, they are supposed to be used with a mixer and you work with line level signal so you can get the full power out of the speaker.
Nice review!! And yes very good speakers. I have two of them and love the sound...
HOW'S THE BASS?
Ld System Icoa Sub 18 A test video ?
Hi there!
What settings are You using now?
And I am reffering at that 4 option from back (FULL RANGE, FLAT, SATELITE, MONITOR) And what levels are You using at bass, mids and highs, because You said You don't like the presets that came with them!
So, Which are yours?
Great job..I am a new fan!
I have the 12 inch tops and 18 bottoms, they kick butt and are worth every nickel.
DO THEY GET LOUD? MAYBE JUST AS GOOD AS THE JBL EON SERIES?
@@junyah1976 I would say they are as good and as loud as any JBL EON.
@@williamvirta7854 thanks
@@junyah1976JBL eon sera moins performant dans la qualité du spectre sonore
Great video i have been looking for thank you so much.
Nice review. By the looks of the channel it appears you don't keep the speakers. However if you do I recommend doing follow up reviews.. Like 1 year later review and how well they held up. Also, would you recommend these over any of the Harbinger?
Hey guys great review! What EQ settings did y’all change the speaker to instead of the factory presets it came with to make it sound better?
an SM 57 Does Not have a pre-amp inside the microphone that would require phantom power. ( it's a Dynamic microphone, not a condenser or ribbon with a pre-amp )
what you mean is, " unless i have a mixer, with it's internally powdered microphone pre-amp, ( and the phantom power is OFF ) i am not getting enough gain."
This or the mackie thump? Can I link two together wirelessly?
I own the ld icoa 15a bt for 300watt its awesome but when I listened the alto ts415 I was have 3 times more powerful range any review for alto ts415 ?
Il y a peu d'avis sur le alto hélas
How are they outside in the heat for cooling. No fans to help out. Looking at getting some for my outdoor rodeo events. Currently using 2 QSC KW152 Speakers along with some old peavy 15 inch plastic body speakers. Looking for something durable and Solid. The price is unbelievable. Any knowledge on the 12s by LD SYSTEMS? Great video
These do clip early heats up pretty good to in flat,satellite,full range to
Nice adv :D I just got this cab, but 12" version (in y opinion 15" is too heavy). I can say that 12" is still heavy. Good finish and attention to the details on the cab. Regarding sound. Fullrange mode is too much for my ears. Eq has too aggressive V shape. In my opinion - lack of mids, but when you will cut highs by 3db and lows by 5db then it sounds nice. For guitar and modeler is sounds much better than headarush FRFR. The best mode for guitar is to use "monitor" eq, lows -10db, mids +2db, highs 0db. Then you will get flat response within +-3db from 100Hz to 20kHz. Bluetooth has a lot of noise. The best is to control volume of BT using master and set max vol on phone.
Ive already bought this one.
I need advises for the settings-
I wanna use Scarlett 101 to perform in a living room.
Did you figure out the settings? because I am also wanting to know what setting works best for a large indoor room.
I just got a pair and im so confused by the Bluetooth beyond mono.. manual says sums mono.. but how on earth do you use these in stereo?
I admit, I was worried about only getting 300 watts RMS. But the SOUND that came out of those things at 40 feet away was RIDICULOUS.....And that was only ONE????
Also top end speakers rarely go beyond 300-400 Watts RMS. I’m talking about rcf, jbl, ev… you name it.
They all the declare 1000 or 2000 watts on their specs but that’s just because people associate watts to loudness. They also put imaginary SPL numbers to fool people.
Do not fall for any of these data.
A very important factor It’s the sensitivity of the speaker. And that’s no coincidence that it’s very rarely mentioned at all
Serious question: As you have taken this thing apart, do you know if it has a normal passive crossover? I guess so, Don't think it's bi-amped. The reason why I'm asking is: I am looking for a good monitor I can mod for passive or active operation. Depending on my rig, I need both options depending on the situation. Currently I have separate speakers for that, one of them died and I want to free up space and simplify. Thank you so much for your review!
Update: I've asked the LD Systems/Adam Hall tech support about this: These speakers are in fact bi-amped. Maybe that's also why they sound so bloody good. So no chance of modding them to be fed by a powered mixer.
What was you're favorite settings? So for the high, mids and low?
The ld systems icoa sub 18 get down to 29hz can you demo an tear down
I wonder if this type of speaker is appropriate for just music listening, since it is more dj/live performance oriented...is it comparable to JBLpartybox310 for example?
Interested
I‘m wondering as well.
LD Systems ICOA 12A BT 12" powered coaxial Speaker
Besides the Bluetooth is there any difference
In the
ICOA 12A
I know this post has been up a while.... but I'm wondering how this speaker would stack up to the QSC K12.2, or the K8.2, or even the CP12? I have them all..... However, I bought some of the LD subs and quite honestly I use them more than any of the QSC subs I have.... was wondering about buy the icon 15A to match up better with the ICOA Sub 15's that I have.... thoughts???
thanks!!!!
I had the icoa 15 it does heats up pretty fast an to me clips an that's on everything flat it sounds good on bluetooth but other than that, I have the icoa 18 sub an wow an my tops are qsc k12 legacy
Pleas teardown a jbl IRX 112 bt no one don this till
I'm someone who isn't much of an audio expert but wanted decent gear and just got these. But I have no idea what is the best settings on the back? You mentioned you tweaked the pre settings, are you able to give an example of what settings you thought sounded better than the pre set? perhaps a little higher on the top and low.
please review a cerwin vega.. cve or cvx series.. please..
oh man i wished i hear them both(stereo +3 db) along with a sub, you've seen how they don't go below like 80 hz.
i do have a gt 18a (ported sub, old model) from ld system and i use it along with those stupid expensive Yamaha studio monitors in my room
i've been looking replace them with and i don't know if it this the one or i keep looking.
What is the title of your sound test music? I love it.
Do Yorkville es18 and electro voice etx18 !
Good review congratulations… my only question is; how do you replace the woofer? You should’ve show us. Just saying.
Are two of these going to be loud enough for an indoor electronic/house/techno party with like 100 - 150 people without a sub?
I'm thinking between these 2, kindly help to decide (preference is loudness)
1. EV ekx 15
2. LD icoa 15a
Those LD icoa 15's really impressed us.
can i ask why the quality only goes up to 360p?, is the video not done processing
same here?
it was just uploaded. it's still processing. it's in 4K
all good, thanks for the feedback!
So which is better than to Presonus or even Mackie speakers?
You reckon i can use them for DDj1000?
What do you think of those vs the harbinger v2315
Let’s see an Rcf review sub 8003
wait what? connect the mic to a midi controller..? :)
What app is that you guys use?
phantom power ? or mic preamp?
There is more to audio quality than punch and dynamics. What about freedom from resonances & distortion, low coloration and the ability to resolve nuance and subtlety? In other words: high fidelity.
but at 58 lbs each?
Do these clip early
Pa subs smaller than 18" are not subs, they are bass-mids and drop dbs below 80hz. Compression drivers bigger than 2" are not highs, they are mid highs and drop dbs above 10khz. You can see this on your gizmo, try the same song through a decent hifi, even a car system and you will see much more highs and low, nearly everything is between 80hz and 10khz through two way systems, even worse is the distortion at crossover but that get complicated. Sound is a myriad of comprimises, 15" is the best two way comprimise but is terrible. Please review 3 way and 2.1 systems like ld's Dave g418, hk's lucas 2k18 and even the cheap and probably nasty power dynamics pdcombo18.
Bro... clean your nails before you do close ups on your hands...
I just ordered these speakers because of your review btw.
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How are you blown away by a CLAIMED MAX 128db? Feels disingenuous
What are you trying to say here? I think he's blown away as 128db is modest compared to what other manufacturers are claiming
im guessing its because (unlike most companies who misrepresent their claimed figures for spl and rms) these guys (LD) seem to be stating honest figures? Like 300wrms and 128dB. (and 128dB from a single speaker is LOUD! before you even consider its budget price point).
I've been holding out on buying Mackie Thump 212XT for a while now, then today i came across this video (and some others). I think I've been swayed. The weight alone of these speakers gives an indication when comparing to the Mackies.
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Hit the gym bro. They ain't that heavy
They are compared to other speakers of this size and materials