"Why couldn't he just use his powers to give his enemies a heart attack?" "A Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense, never attack" - Yoda, Empire Strikes Back
Yes, if he would do that he would become a sith so of course he do not do that. That is the weakness of a jedi, they can not use the force the way they want.
@@patrickwilliams7695 Mace Windu was considered one of the few 'Gray' Jedi, as in he followed the narrow line between the light and the dark side without straying to far to either path. There are very few in the star wars universe pre-empire who could do this due to the restrictions, but considering how absolutely powerful Master Windu was, it's not really surprisingly they let it slide.
Fun Fact: Ewan McGregor was extremely into the Star Wars series, even before the prequels were announced to be filmed. One of the greatest reasons for this was the fact that his Uncle was actually in the original trilogy, acting as Luke's good friend from Tatooine, who it is said Luke spent much time with. By the time the filming of the prequels was announced, Ewan was already a well known actor. Once he heard the news, he was ecstatic, extremely excited. Once he got the role of Obi Wan, he did every little thing he could in order to mirror the younger looks and actions of the original actor for Obi Wan. Ewan went all out, even using the original actor's image to form a look for Obi Wan slowly throughout the prequels. There's a video with an interview with Ewan that will explain more than I can.
That's funny, then, because so many people claim Obi-Wan was boring and wooden in Episode I - does that mean they think Obi-Wan was boring and wooden in Episode IV?
i thought Obi Wan was the most interesting character of the prequels in terms of performance. i think people are just trying to make the prequels seem worse than they really are. sure they were terrible as hell, but not every single detail about them is bad.
I think Ewan is supposed to return as a force ghost in the new trilogy. He was speaking to Rey in VII. I don't know how they'll explain him as being younger in a ghost form but hey, if anyone can do it, he can.
Sean Dobbins Thing is though, he's like the perfect age for it to be set between episodes III and IV. They wouldn't really need to make him look that older.
The Pod Racer is a good thing of the prequels? Really? That scene was created just because of a (very bad) racing game, only made to put much more money on George Lucas's wise-ass bank account!
He isn’t a well known character we don’t know much about, and blends in with all the other Jedi masters. You have to had seen the comics and tv shows where he has a presences to actually understand and feel the character.
Chris Molyneaux Everyone mentions Duel of the Fates, but Battle of the Heroes was a lot better imo (although practically ever track in the prequels is amazing)
In defense of the awkward love banter : anakin has been spending years of his life with old men and has virtually no experience talking to girls, especially not ones he likes. It makes perfect sense for him to be an awkward teenage boy
@@karenhall4645 Word! For every "what have I done?" there is an equally unwatchable mental image of Lucas "directing" saying "Cut, that was perfect, Good Job Hayden!"
Not to mention, he WAS an awkward teenage boy when he meets her. That’s just factual, He was 19 for goodness sake! How can anyone expect a 19 year old kid to be a better wordsmith than D.H. Lawrence??? 😂😂😂😂
I LOVE Hayden as Anakin. George Lucas said he casted him because, while he is young, he also has a James Dean troubled-young-man vibe to him--a dark side--and I totally agree. Let us not forget that James Dean was hella whiny and mopey in his movies, yet he is still considered a screen legend and an icon.
His acting was intentional too. Anakin was described to him as emotionally detached, dead inside, and struggled to find the right words to say. So all of his “bad acting” is actually intentional
@@zehahahahahahahahaha677 Hayden when he wasn't talking in revenge of the sith WAS Darth Vader. The dialogue was a bit cringe but i think that was sorta intentional
Let's be fair, Lucas fucked up Heyden's acting by his direction, which was also fucked up because nobody dared call him out on stuff he could make better
*Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?* *I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life... He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful... the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic, he could save others from death, but not himself.*
Honorable mention: Darth Maul. He's one of the best villains in the franchise. He's intimidating, memorable, and his lightsaber's awesome. I was surprised that he returned in Clone Wars.
Yoda needs the cane because at the time of the prequels he was over 800 years old. He is only able to move around like that in combat by using the force. And as a Jedi master, he would never just use the force to help him move around because he would see that as selfish and a waste of the force in general.
It's to sort the evil from the merciful. Think about it. You would not assume that someone walking and limping with a cane would be so powerful. So if someone tries to mug Yoda and assumes he's weak, Yoda can kick ass when he needs to.
I love the Prequels for everything except the cringe worthy romance bits. I don't mind them being in love, but it was executed pretty badly. And Padme's character got assassinated because of it. The prequels built the lore, was the reason the amazing Clone Wars series happened, and is where a lot of the extended Star Wars Universe and jedi culture was built off of. Plus the relationship between Obi Wan and Anakin was freaking amazing. Fun, full of chemistry, and the loss was felt deeply because of it.
MRR D exactly...AND if you read The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader, then you get a better and more fleshed out romance story between Anakin and Padme...then when you rewatch the movies, they seem so much better, because you can easily see what the writers and Director were aiming for.
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Sure, and the voice actor they could have gotten should have been the actual actor to voice the role as well. Of course, by the time this happened the series was about to be canceled, unfortunately...so it seems all for not.
@@MidnightAssass1n Well, before Solo, he also appeared in Clone Wars and Rebels, which are still canon, and while I jumped off of Rebels early on, many people (including me) watched the entirety of Clone Wars, so yeah
@@matthewheywood8532 where I live the main nerd consensus is that the originals are better the prequels are good tho and the new trilogy is highly divided
Master Trav no be I know thinks the prequels are good at best they say they are ok which is how I feel about them . As for the new ones everyone like TFA and TLJ is mixed at best to hated
@@matthewheywood8532 dude opinions change in regions, mass around where I live believe the exact opposite with the new trilogy with force awakens suxks and tlj is better
personally, the star wars fans in my area have the opinion that the prequels are pretty good save for a few unsavory characters (those being Jar Jar and Anakin in the first 2 episodes), the originals are great, and the sequels, as once said by Red Letter Media about The Phantom Menace, 'are a bigger disappointment than my son'
you should've included the fact palpatine kept laughing in the fight with yoda, at first it seems corney but imagine you are the the most powerful user of the dark side, your enemies have been right in front of you the whole time but you couldnt use your power yet, however, you finally can unleash all of your power after years!
Also, Palpatine had already won when he executed order 66. At that point he's just having fun, like continuing a Civilization game after you've already reached a science victory.
@@xm_heecka.laddder.job_mx5962 because of how many Jedi were killed because of order 66! Yeah there were survivors. But I'm reminded of that one line one of the lizards in the good reboot to Thundercats once said when they invaded the cats capital about how they went from the Apex race to near-extinction in one night! Remember when it comes down to the Sith the end goal was the destruction of the Jedi. Their numbers are now low and they've now been defamed and he has become emperor permanently! A best Yoda was coming to kill him so at the very least that will put an end to his plans but even if he had killed him here and then the Jedi reputation was destroyed and their numbers low at best it took living under his tyranny for two decades before people wanted the Jedi back period but imagine if Yoda had actually succeeded! Palpatine already put down the groundwork that the Jedi have betrayed the Republic and tried to kill him already. This would just be seen as the remnant successfully assassinating him. Yes this also means that with his death that also means Vader would have died where he was left by Obi-Wan! But somebody would have taking the helm and in the end the Jedis reputation would not have been restored it would have been damaged almost forever because remember it took the Tyranny for people to basically start to ask where did Jedi really bad guys I mean it only took two decades for people to start believing the force was just fairy tales along with the Jedi if you had that one commander who is dumb enough to provoke Vader into Force choking him was an example alongside even Han saying it was a dead religion and not believing! There was time to cool down where in the worst-case scenario I'd have to say that people who look or are from the Middle East still get a bad rap as the definition of what a terrorist is to the point that people think terrorists means them instead of you know the actual description after what happened on September 11th even to this day!
Another good thing about the prequels is that each villain foreshadows a part of Vader. Maul = Sith, Count Dooku = Fallen Jedi, Grevious = Cyborg. Add these three and you get Darth Vader. George Lucas is a true genius.
That was never his intentions tho,both Maul and Dooku was originally supposed to be women and i forgot Grievous origin,but it wasn't a cyborg originally...if anything your mind found a connection between those 3 unique characters referencing 1...Only geniuses can find a common similarity between multiple things and people that others can't...
@@ninjaworld101 It truly is,little details like that gives the Prequels some rewind value,which is what it needs for the trilogy as a whole and not just have Ep.3 hog all the glory lol
@@youtubeistryingtocensorme He does, but then again, Saruman would probably fit pretty well in the Star Wars universe in terms of personality, just swap the magic powers for force abilities.
The Clone Wars tv series. They made these characters awesome again and expanded the Star Wars mythos. The clones were also great, for characters that were literally made to be expendable I really cared about them.
It made us care more about the characters from the prequels. Even if I already cared about them before the series, the depth, backstory, personality, and overall persona of them was hugely expanded, it gave me reason to enjoy the prequels more than I did initially and give them another watch.
I know it add up to be about two hours in the end but I still like the star wars mini series clone wars (the one that was in 5 min segments). It was fast paced but not rushed and filled in what happened between episodes 2 and 3 including why grievous had a breathing problem.
Clone Wars should've been Episode 2, just after Attack of the Clones (without the dumb romance scenes removed to explain what happened during Phantom Menace).
Thomas Grindol True. It gave us a better look in onto Anakin’s distrust in the council and a better look at other characters like Plo-koon and Kit Fisto
I got my autograph from Ian Mcdiarmid (the emperor) at Comic-Con, and he has such a charming personality that you feel so comfortable around him. Even though you know he’s not an evil man in real life, you still can’t shake that dark presence.
Ian McDiarmid seems like a great guy in real life. I haven't met him but in the behind the scenes footage of Revenge of the Sith he seems to be a very respectable gentleman. However, he clearly loved playing Palpatine so I wonder how much of his own inner darkness (everyone has it, it just takes different forms depending on the person) he was channeling in order to portray him? Every time he was onscreen, whether he was being subtle, cheerful, manipulative, charming, humorous, vicious or batshit insane, he was having the time of his life. Like Doug said here, you see him in every light a good villain should be seen in. Sometimes he was over-the-top but he also knew when to be quiet and just let you soak up how charmingly evil Palpatine was.
100% agree, he adds so much more depth to the manipulative, extremely intelligent and talented puppet master character rather than just an old decrepit looking ballsack in the OT. Really loved the plot ideas- how the empire developed through political manouvering and his manipulation of anakin, seeing vader as a kind little kid contrasting with the huge menacing figure and then seeing how and why he became vader. The execution was absolutely atrocious though. so much potential all fucked up.
Critic: I like the fights, I like some of the acting, I like how they added lore, I like the sets, and I liked some of the jokes. Me: sooo... you like the prequels
I think when people say they hate the Prequels they generally mean they hate the dialogue and some of the bad humor. Episode 1 & 2 can also be very... very boring at points.
It boils down to almost everything you listed needing the suffix "at times". A successful movie can make you feel like that most, if not all of the time. I'm guessing the prequels didn't do so for most fans.
@@LadyOnikara No that's how it happened in 2016 when a demagogue lost the popular vote and became "leader" anyway. They tried to destroy liberty again January 6th 2021. When you try to use an angry mob to steal an election you LOST that is an attack on Liberty. When you file sixty lawsuits against your own coutry that all get thrown out for zero proof. That is an attack on liberty.
@Merciless Freak All movies do, Revenge of the Sith is my favorite also. I mean you have to realize that three of the movies are utterly terrible, that being episode 2,7 and 8. 1 is medicore as well. So that leaves only half the movies on the good and great scale. The only one I'd put on par with 3 is 5.
I loved the emperor's "I'm afraid the deflector shield will be quite operational when your friends arrive" because it feels that he was mocking Luke for his plan
My friend and I have a thing going where whenever we quote that line, we have to wave our heads violently like in that scene from the Family Guy Star Wars parody.
Some things I personally think deserve more recognition 1. The Order 66 scene 2. The Birth of Vader & Padme's pregnancy 3. Bridging the gap between Episode 3 & Episode 4 4. The Final battle between Obi Wan & Anakin
So great the guy who wrote American Pie accidentally mixes up his lyrics with Al's. Heck, the fact that he managed to deduce the whole plot of Phantom Menace _before it was released._
“The ability to speak does not make you intelligent.” Who’s the person her surname is from? Bail Organa. Who’s the woman next to him during the finale, showing where the Skywalkers went? His wife. Ergo, the “mother” Leia remembers isn’t her birth mother, but her adoptive mother. You have working eyes, you have Google.... but you don’t use them.
Joshua D I choose to believe that she actually died because the Emperor was using Darth Plagueis’ powers to keep Vader alive, while taking life from Padmè in the process to make it all work. EDIT: By the way, I didn't think of this myself. It was CinemaWins' idea, but I liked it and decided to share it with y'all.
With Critic's lines about Obi-Wan, I wonder… What would happen if we were to look at this movie _not_ as Anakin's and fall to the Dark Side, but as Obi-Wan's transition from a young apprentice, to the guy we know and love?
Honestly, I don't hate the prequels. In fact I didn't even know they were hated til one of my teachers mentioned hating JarJar. Even now I don't have a reason to hate them, despite me admitting that they have flaws that could been done better. Saddly, I didn't know how to explain it, but this video helped me out.
Consider also watching CinemaWins' "Everything GREAT About..." videos on each of the prequel films. His analyses are fantastic and made me consider aspects of the story I've never thought about before. His videos helped me to conclude that the prequels are actually quite good films, and the only thing that held them back was the execution. Here's the video on TPM: ua-cam.com/video/QppINK042N8/v-deo.html
@KayKo Sorry, but that's just what i think. Don't get me wrong, he is a great actor, but i never imagine him playing the Emperor. If you liked the casting, that's okay. I just don't think the new voice fit him. That's all. Also, i liked the reference there.
Funny that's the case, because Tim Curry and Ian McDiarmid used to be roommates in Glasgow a long time ago when, as Ian put it, they were much younger actors, "pre-Rocky Horror days." I thought that was one of the best/funniest things I'd ever heard in my life. LOL
Number 13: Obi Wan's "you were the chosen one!" monologue. How obi managed to cut anakins limbs just looked ridiculous, but the emotion put into that last speech was undeniably human and powerful. " you were my brother anakin, I loved you".
As long as you don't mind the clumsy isnta-fall of Vader. Senator Ovaltine: "You can save Padme, but only if you are evil." Little Orphan Ani: "Ok, I'm super evil now, I make slaughter-dead all the children!"
@@daddywarbucks81 No, just FUCKING no. To say that Anakin’s fall to the dark side is “abrupt” or out of “Nowhere” is simply not true and a failure of understanding. The entire movie’s direction is pinpointing to the act of Choices of you value the most. From episode 2, Anakin gets visions on his mother being endanger and being under stress. When he finally finds out where she is, she dies in his arms, and becomes enraged and starts killing in a mass rampage on the people who killed her. It makes sense to get pissed off and go enraged if you’re mom dies and ESPECIALLY if she gets killed. I don’t know what person who doesn’t love their own mother wouldn’t go on a killing spree if someone killed the person they loved especially when they easily have the power to do so. Do I approve of the act, no, but it makes sense given the content. At Shimi’s Funeral, Anakin promises that he doesn’t want anymore people the cares about to die anymore and desires to have the power to stop that from happening. Years later where in episode 3. The main plot device in this movie is Anakin’s vision of his wife dying in labor. Anakin already got a vision of someone he loved dies in his visions so him not accepting that someone else could die is just absurd and it makes sense for him to act. From that moment on Anakin is under a ticking time bomb clock for months on end on what he has to do. He’s constantly worrying about how he has he’s trying to save her throughout the film so much that he has to go to master Yoda for advice ,but even then, that advice is abysmal to tell someone to just let their wife die (granted he didn’t know that was the reason but still). And given the fact that he was getting conflicted feelings towards the Jedi order given the fact the council didn’t trust him and forcing him to spy over him friend for the council, things were only getting worse for Anakin getting to where his allegiance lies onto. Anakin as a person was always a character who submitted to his emotions and got VERY personal when things effected him. This is even carried over to the clone wars show. He chose to have a wife when he was the Jedi Order forbid to love, he chose to rescue Obiwan instead leave him when he had to save the chancellor, and he lunged after dooku after when he shot padme. Anakin's emotions were like a clock bomb. He clearly suffered tremendously from his childhood and the death of his mother, yet no one helped him in the order except for telling him to forget about his emotions, add that to the continuous stress of war and there you have it, a jealous, irascible and tormented man. Him doing hasty emotional decisions has always been ingrained into his character and he’s left into a emotional breaking point at the point of his wife’s inevitable death. And then Palpaltine, being someone who was always close to him, give him a promise that he could save his loved one. Anakin is left with a conflicting choice after realizing his options, either let his wife and children die and stay true to the Jedi order or do whatever it takes to save the people he love even if it means damning himself. At the moment, when he sees mace windu about to kill the Sith Lord who was unarmed (the thing that Jedi are not supposed to do) and have mace say the say line about “he’s too dangerous to kept alive” about sidious, the same line that sidious said about dooku, the line for Jedi and Sith for him gets blurred. He makes his choice, he slays windups along with Palpatine and choices to side with the dark side as long as it gets him what he wants. NOTING about this was “forced” or unconvincing. This was VERY well built up from episode 2 and onward. And what was he to do, huh? Ask the Jedi council/order for help? You mean the same order that says it’s wrong to love and say having emotions are bad and to just mediate your problems away? The same order that takes children from their families and have them never see each other again? The same order that publicly humiliates a 9 year old kid in front of it’s leaders for loving his mom instead of being a emotionless drone? The same order that doesn’t go out to save that 9 year old kid’s mom from slavery and allows slavery to happen instill caustrophes happen? The council clearly didn’t trust because he had “emotions”. Fucking EMOTIONS. That alone was enough for them to not be trustworthy of him, that’s insane. And it’s clearly written that way to highlight how arrogant and dogmatic these monks are with their views and traditions which are the REASON for why this shit even started. If the Jedi were more opened minded to things and ways of lives as simple as something as allowing someone to love and actually talked to each other personally instead of just telling them to mediate their problems out of the picture, none of this shit would have happen. If the Jedi order were capable of stopping someone from death, that would have been shown to do so and it clearly wasn’t and Anakin was in a ticking clock count down for him to find a solution to his problem and Palpatine, the person who always been at his good side and tells him what he feels isn’t wrong and tried to be his understanding friend, was there for him with a possible solution. This was about making a choice. An extremely difficult fucking choice to make for himself. The woman he loves or the Jedi Order. Love or duty. An individual or a whole foundation. And he made his choice on what’s the most important thing t o him. This is a question that most people have a hard time answering, these “what if” that people have a hard time answering and for Anakin, these “what if you had to choose you’re wife or thousands to innocents of people,” became reality. And Anakin commits a genocide, he slaughters innocents, and he allows evil to exist because Anakin killing children isn’t something he relishes on doing as there’s no evidence to say that he say that he did in anyway but He values Padme and his future family MORE than the lives of people who he doesn’t have any real attachment too. Does he enjoy it, no, but he does it regardless because that’s the path he does to attain power for who he values MORE than anyone else. He even acknowledges what he did was bad by crying a moment at mustrafar after killing the separatists leaders but accepts his decision by not backing down and knowing he can’t go back on his decision. Him chocking out Padme is his mind getting corrupted by the dark side as there is so much evidence to say the dark side makes you do irrational actions because the dark side is based on fear, hatred, anger and those traits NEVER make anyone do rational actions unless you’re palatine who relish on that shit. There’s a reason for why the rule of two was created, because the Sith are so illogical in the dark side to the point it resulted in too much infighting in mass scale that it would eventually lead to their own annihilation because power, insanity, and vice so they decided to only have TWO Sith because only two should be enough that continue their existence, and even then their STILL betraying one another for power. So it makes sense for Anakin’s insane decision making and ramblings. That’s what the dark side DOES, it makes you insane. Look at fucking Darth Maul how he got cut in half and got pissed at Kenobi for DECADES for doing so even though he doesn’t see the hypocrisy that he himself is slaughtering innocent people left and right in his life BEFORE and after the act. The dark side of the force warps your mind and makes you do crazy shit. These movies are from being pitch perfect, as the romance is horrid to watch and somewhat illogical to even being with, the dialogue is still atrocious, and too much CGI everywhere but Anakin’s development on what he values above all else makes sense and is done well.
JarJar never bothered me. In fact, I think he could have been the answer to one of my biggest problems with the Prequels: There's no everyman. Seriously, every person in the Prequels is connected to either the Force or the Senate. There is no character is not bound by these restraints, someone who can actually say what the audience says like Han Solo in the original trilogy. JarJar could have filled this role but Lucas downplayed him after Ep1.
jar jar love scenes ? wtf where ? when ! noooooo.....now that you said it ..We demand a movie about JAr JAR origins ..his history ,his loves . the gungan city .which is awesome by the way .I wish we could build cities like that underwater.. wow
I truly believe that the problem of the prequels is in the execution. You'll find the worst of it in some of the details, but when you check the overall plot, it's maybe one of the best stories you'll find. If you add the story of the Original Trilogy, and look it all as a one big story, there's no "maybe". We get to see the story of a war in such a way it feels as if it actually happened. We get to see the republic, why the war started, the consequences, the fall, the empire, the rebellion and the start of a new era. And the story of the characters that directly affected it, even tho all of em' have goofy moments, is just great. Not because someone is a hero/villain in a story, it has to be badass and perfect in every aspect, moment and second of it's life. They are people that, just like most of people, do stupid things and take the wrong choice sometimes. We should take on count the things they did that actually affected the events on the story, for example, things like Anakin's decision of betraying the Jedi Order, and the decision of ending the Empire and his redemption, not that time he talked about his hate for the sand. I mean, we all say stupid shit for no reason every now and then, don't we?
Exactly! The execution was the only thing holding them back. To this day I wish Lucas took Spielberg's offer to direct The Phantom Menace; I'm sure it would've turned out better in execution. If you're interested in watching great video essays on why the prequels were actually good films, check out CinemaWins' videos. Here's TPM: ua-cam.com/video/QppINK042N8/v-deo.html
"Why does Yoda use a cane when he kicks so much ass?" I think he uses a cane because he wants to throw off his attackers. It's all a facade. He's actually super powerful but it's believable that an almost 900 year old being would need a cane. So when he throws that cane down and pulls out a light saber, you know it's going to be a good fight.
Personally I think that during fights he uses the force to compensate for his aging body, but when he's not fighting and not using the force to aid him he actually does need the cane.
Love that, seeing as during order 66 two stormtroopers figured Yoda would’ve been as easy to gun down as the rest of the Jedi 😅 before the swoooosh! And then no head!
4:48- yoda uses a cane for various reasons. For one, it’s a great way to make your enemies underestimate you. Also, his cane is made from a special wood from dagobah that is able to “attract” for lack of a better term, the force swirling in the air around it and give it to the user. Yoda draws energy from his cane to be able to fight like that, but doesn’t constantly draw from it because he respects the force
Sounds an awful lot like fan fiction to me. I much prefer the idea that while Yoda is quite frail in his state, his knowledge and mastery of the force allows him to overcome that by giving of a burst of agility and physical strength. It would explain why his fight scenes are so short in canonical fights as that wears off. It's even present when he lifts the X Wing from the swamp. If his staff was some sort of limitless force channeling device then he would not have looked nearly as tired as did after moving that.
@@grizzl360 i do believe both of these are true, and used to be canon (in one way or another). the cane i'm not sure on, but i doubt it'd be limitless- it's more like a palliative. but i'm pretty sure him using the force to move his body and give him the strength of his youth is canon. but it's temporary- hence why after fighting, he immediately calls his cane back before walking. using the force does put strain on you.
Before his fight with duku he absorbed force lightning and he drops the cane, he is really old and frail yes but he is a true master of the force with no real equals so I can believe him using some technique that allows him to fight like we see
As a guy who has seen the Prequel Trilogy a fair number of times, I have to say the hate towards them is utterly ridiculous. They along with the Original Trilogy are equally good. People who say that they are the worst things humanity has to offer are just ridiculing those who enjoy them (that means YOU, Simon Pegg). If you don't like them, that's ok, no one said you HAVE to like them. However, if you do nothing but whine and complain about them to the point where other people who enjoy them begin to dislike them, I can't consider you a real Star Wars fan.
D. J. It's called hyperbole. If I say "the prequels are the worst thing since the holocaust" I'm not being literal. Also no, they do not compare in quality. Bland characters and cinematography, horrible writing and a major case of uncanny valley isn't excused by some over the top action.
I actually liked most of Hayden Christensen's acting in Revenge of the Sith. Yes he sounded kinda monotonous, but it gave him this pompous, overconfident energy that he was meant to have as the hero of the clone wars and the 'chosen one' with exceptional talent. He was supposed to be growing too big for his boots. It was only the last bit ("I have bought peace, freedom, justice and security to my new empire!") where it went downhill hard.
Angry Clone Face was it ever confirmed that Padme dies because Sidious siphoned her life force to give to Anakin while he is undergoing his surgery? I read a theory about that which if it was true it makes her death so much more tragic and credible
The Clone Wars show. It was everything the prequels should have been: good voice acting, great action, a cheesy but aware that it is script, various locations, and, most importantly, character devellopment
I read through Matthew Stover's Revenge of the Sith novelization. I'm going to say this: For me, Stover does a really good job of how Sidious manipulates Anakin. Anakin's thoughts as he learns he kills Padme was done really well. For me, its so much better than the movie. I like the prequels a lot more than your average person, but Stover does a great job. Not perfect, as some dialogue is not-so-fantastic, but really, really well. Apologies if unwelcomed. What Sidious said to Anankin when manipulating him, his philosophy on the Jedi and Sith, was really good and made fair amount of sense to not only Anakin In-universe, but to I myself as a reader - to me, in my humble opinion, at the very least. I truly liked Vader's thoughts as he learns he killed Padme. The "Nooooooo!!!!" scream is not in the novel, and it seems Padme genuinely died at Anakin's hand gradually. I recommend Matthew Stover's book to you not only because it does almost (I say "almost" because SOME of the dialogue is not so fantastic, but great other than that.) everything better, gives insight onto the situations and the character's thoughts, but above all else: You get to see WHY Anakin does the things he does. To me, Sidious' words to Anakin and his manipulation of him makes a fair amount of sense to me as a reader and fan of Star Wars. At one point in the novel, Anakin is suspecting that there is someone between him and Padme, so he squeezes her shoulders (Not enough to kill her, or crush her shoulders, but it still hurt a little bit) , she says "you're hurting us", and he stops, as she explains she is pregnant. That is all I'm going to tell you; wouldn't want to spoil it all. Here is an excerpt: 'Anakin was barely paying attention; in his mind, he was already leaving the Council Chamber, riding the turbolift to the archives, demanding access to the restricted vault by authority of his new rank-"You will attend the meetings of this Council," the Korun Master said, "but you will not be granted the rank and privileges of a Jedi Master." "What?" It was a small word, a simple word, an instinctive recoil from words that felt like punches, like stun blasts exploding inside his brain that left his head ringing and the room spinning around him-but even to his own ears, the voice that came from his lips didn't sound like his own. It was deeper, darker, clipped and oiled, resonating from the depths of his heart. It didn't sound like him at all, and it smoked with fury. "How dare you? How dare you?" Anakin stood welded to the floor, motionless. He wasn't even truly aware of speaking. It was as if someone else were using his mouth-and now, finally, he recognized the voice. It sounded like Dooku. But it was not Dooku's voice. It was the voice of Dooku's destroyer. "No Jedi in this room can match my power-no Jedi in the galaxy! You think you can deny Mastery to me?" "The Chancellor's representative you are," Yoda said. "And it is as his representative you shall attend the Council. Sit in this Chamber you will, but no vote will you have. The Chancellor's views you shall present. His wishes. His ideas and directives. Not your own." Up from the depths of his furnace heart came an answer so far transcending fury that it sounded cold as interstellar space. "This is an insult to me, and to the Chancellor. Do not imagine that it will be tolerated." Mace Windu's eyes were as cold as the voice from Anakin's mouth. "Take your seat, young Skywalker." Anakin matched his stare. Perhaps I'll take yours. His own voice inside his head, had a hot black fire that smoked from the depths of his furnace heart. You think you can stop me from saving my love? You think you can make me watch her die? Go ahead and Vaapad this, you-"Anakin," Obi-Wan said softly. He gestured to an empty seat beside him. "Please." And something in Obi-Wan's gentle voice, in his simple, straightforward request, sent his anger slinking off ashamed, and Anakin found himself alone on the carpet in the middle of the Jedi Council, blinking. He suddenly felt very young, and very foolish. "Forgive me, Masters." His bow of contrition couldn't hide the blaze of embarrassment that climbed his cheeks.' And probably the part I like the most: 'This is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker, forever: The first dawn of light in your universe brings pain. The light burns you. It will always burn you. Part of you will always lie upon black glass sand beside a lake of fire while flames chew upon your flesh. You can hear yourself breathing. It comes hard, and harsh, and it scrapes nerves already raw, but you cannot stop it. You can never stop it. You cannot even slow it down. You don't even have lungs anymore. Mechanisms hardwired into your chest breathe for you. They will pump oxygen into your bloodstream forever. *Lord Vader? Lord Vader, can you hear me? * And you can't, not in the way you once did. Sensors in the shell that prisons your head trickle meaning directly into your brain. You open your scorched-pale eyes; optical sensors integrate light and shadow into a hideous simulacrum of the world around you. Or perhaps the simulacrum is perfect, and it is the world that is hideous. *Padmé? Are you here? Are you all right? *you try to say, but another voice speaks for you, out from the vocabulator that serves you for burned-away lips and tongue and throat. "Padmé? Are you here? Are you all right?" I'm very sorry, Lord Vader. I'm afraid she died. It seems in your anger, you killed her. This burns hotter than the lava had. "No … no, it is not possible!" You loved her. You will always love her. You could never will her death. Never. But you remember … You remember all of it. You remember the dragon that you brought Vader forth from your heart to slay. You remember the cold venom in Vader's blood. You remember the furnace of Vader's fury, and the black hatred of seizing her throat to silence her lying mouth- And there is one blazing moment in which you finally understand that there was no dragon. That there was no Vader. That there was only you. Only Anakin Skywalker. That it was all you. Is you. Only you. You did it. You killed her. You killed her because, finally, when you could have saved her, when you could have gone away with her, when you could have been thinking about her, you were thinking about yourself … It is in this blazing moment that you finally understand the trap of the dark side, the final cruelty of the Sith- Because now your self is all you will ever have. And you rage and scream and reach through the Force to crush the shadow who has destroyed you, but you are so far less now than what you were, you are more than half machine, you are like a painter gone blind, a composer gone deaf, you can remember where the power was but the power you can touch is only a memory, and so with all your world-destroying fury it is only droids around you that implode, and equipment, and the table on which you were strapped shatters, and in the end, you cannot touch the shadow. In the end, you do not even want to. In the end, the shadow is all you have left. Because the shadow understands you, the shadow forgives you, the shadow gathers you unto itself- And within your furnace heart, you burn in your own flame. This is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker. Forever …'
ΕΛΕΝΗ ΧΑΡΑΛΑΜΠΙΔΟΥ a 3 hour Jar Jar movie would be better than TLJ. Speaking of which, I actually felt like the Clone Wars definitely improved on Jar Jar (somehow), the final season in particular.
Yes! And remember that situation when Grievious went to Naboo to disgust with the Guangans? Anakin dressed Jar-Jar as their leader and at one point Jar-Jar said "messa .I can't!" That in my opinion was a really important part of his character. Jar-Jar knows that he is a screw-up character and no matter how hard he tries he makes things worse. That statement showed that he may be a screw-up but he is definitely not an idiot, the whole situation has affected him and it has hit his self-confidence.
I...actually loved the prequels. *FIGHT ME!* (I'm coming back to this comment one year later after completely forgetting about it, and holy crap I'm scrolling through 136 comments)
Tbh jar jar was really cringy and how anakin's lines were also cringy so people are blaming the actors instead of the writers none the less I love them
in my opinion i feel people pointlessly hate this film when theres no need for it 1: people complain about jarjar when hes easily ignorable and after the first film as you said hes downplayed even more 2: people complain about the CGI but i feel there are certine scenes that would have looked terrible if done practically and i think people should go into the prequals expecting cgi since its triying to be wider and bigger 3: i feel the acting is intentionally serious, and this comes from how jedi are trained, they are trained to disregaurd emotion as emotion leads to the dark side
UndertaleSkeleBros The acting may also be intentionally serious and flat due to this being a tragedy. In Ancient Greek tragic plays, the actors would wear masks. It was the music that determined the emotion of the scenes, and in the prequels, John William’s score does the same thing. If this was intentional, that’s honestly genius. And George Lucas loves myth and paying homage to other stories, so I don’t think it’s out of question to say that it was intentional.
Well the CGI was also used for city scapes and planets, because it would have taken too long to make. They said it would have bankrupt the film to build everything of every set the way it was designed. But this was one of the first huge movies to use CGI so this hadn't really been done before.
I totally agree with you, guys! I was thinking the reason why they use CGI so much is because they need to show all the worlds and special effects in the Star Wars universe! 😁
Jar Jar is essentially a problem the first film has alone, and he's basically cut out of the rest of them. Also, with world building, which is what Lucas did best, he knocked it out of the park. I mean it was an amazing imagination that came up with the likes of the underwater Gungan cities, or the cloning facilities on the perpetual storming planet of Kamino, the sinkholes of Utapau or even the droid factory worlds of Geonosis and Mustafar. The prequels had some of the most unique and interesting planets of the films. Hell, even Coroscant was fascinating, the idea of an entire planet being a city. They even had Polis Massa, which was a station made entirely of asteroids. Even if the characters in them made them lack "personality", they were very interesting and amazing worlds. I mean, you have this smourgasboard of worlds, compared to the like, 2 or 3 that were introduced in the originals. I mean, what kind of creative worlds were made in the originals? Bespin? Dagobah? Yavin IV? Yes, originals, I'll take another swamp or forest planet, please.
Am I the only one who wants to see a Star Wars spinoff movie that focuses on a younger Palpatine. The whole mythos really makes me want new canon material involving his apprenticeship and eventual betrayal to Plagueis.
Finland A lot of people and fans - myself included - also think that Tom Hiddleston would be perfect as a young Palpatine since his role as Loki is pretty similar.
I know it's wrong to agree with #6, but bad delivery isn't the fault of the actor, the director was the one who said, "yeah, this looks pretty good." Honestly, the faces Hayden Christiansen is good, but the dialogue wasn't his writing. He's just the delivering what lines he was given. We don't really have any reason to blame him.
Yeah, I don't get why Hayden gets shit. There's lots of good and subtle acting when he's not otherwise being directed not to and being given shit lines, particularly during 3. You can even see small shifts in his demeanor during episode 3 that show him transitioning to the dark side - something a lot of people complain happens abruptly. While Lucas directed it abruptly, Hayden did show it through his character. Plus there's scenes like when he's burning at the end, and yelling at Obi-Wan while on fire. That could've been laughable if he didn't actually seem enraged and in a lot of pain. But he did. Shit on Lucas, he's who messed these films up, not the actors.
He also did a great job in the Tatooine scenes in Episode 2. Tell me you dont feel for Anakin who went on a murderous spree after finding his dead mother hanging in ropes. People say that Anakin turned to the dark side way too abruptly, but the warning signs were already showing in episode 2 when Anakin starts to get really, really emotional, especially after Tatooine. The entire chain of events that happens on Tatooine is one of the only times in episode 2 where Lucas got all the check marks right: 1. The setting 2. Motivation 3. The sequence of events 4. The actions 5. The short-term consequences of said actions 6. The long-term consequences of said actions
Hayden gets blame for the same reason that people blame the quarterback for every single failing of a football team, and say "the coaches aren't the ones on the field, they're not making the players play bad," when you try to point out massive deficiencies in the play design and calling. People focus (often wrongly) on the things they can SEE and not on the behind-the-scenes things that produce what they see.
Darth Maul is a cool villain. Glad they brought him back in Clone Wars (and Rebels.) Fun fact, btw: That line you showed with Leia and Tarkin. Peter Cushing was a really nice guy to Carrie Fisher and the other cast between scenes and Carrie couldn't muster the proper amount of hate she'd be feeling as Leia towards Tarkin, and he actually supposedly smelled of lavender and tobacco. Also, from what I heard: Hayden allegedly did give some good performances that never made it into the cut, because Lucas wanted him to ham it up more.
The point you make about Lucas wanting to ham things up a bit more is an important point many people miss. Lucas actually *wanted* the films to be cheesy! He wanted them to feel like the old Flash Gordon he grew up with. Most of the moments in the films and dialogue were purposefully cheesy.
Not to mention that since Cushing found the Imperial boots to be uncomfortable, he wore fuzzy slippers whenever his feet would be out of the camera shot in a scene.
About the scene where Padme tells Anakin she’s pregnant and their reactions are done perfectly, I had a thought about that. Anakin and Padme have to act a certain way in their public lives. Anakin has to be a stoic Jedi while in the job, and Padme is a senator who has to be taken seriously, so she acts in a very calm and measured way. But, once they’re together and alone, they can be human again and be natural with each other. So I think that’s one of the reasons why their acting is so good here. They’re allowed to be human again.
15:09 Did you know that the prequels had more practical fx than the originals? Many locations (not all of them) were build with miniatures. Like the pod-race tribune or Naboo's buildings.
Agreed. When given good material to work with Hayden is actually quite good. It is a shame he was not allowed to be as good as he can be in the prequels. Likewise miss Portman is a great actress, but what she had to work with in the prequels was not so good. Even Jake Lloyd is better than he gets credit for. The prequels were not as good as the original trilogy but it was not the actors fault.
This happens a lot tbh, Ben Affleck in Daredevil, George Clooney in Batman and Robin, Mark Walberg in The Happening, I could go on forever with this tbh xD
Yeah. Even Plinkett can agree on that one, which really surprised after watching Plinkett's reviews when he came out and said "Hayden's a good kid and ya shouldn't blame him". But by Jove he had a point.
People dont know that a lot of these different worlds were actually miniature sets enhanced with CGI. The prequels have a lot of practical effects that have been overlooked! That is one of the reasons the different worlds look so great.
Fun fact: Palpatine was there when Plagueis died. He dealt the killing blow himself. And the reason why he wants Anakin is because he was that apprentice that learned everything from Plagueis, but he wasn't as powerful, so he needed someone with the raw strength to do what Plagueis did.
Am I the only one who loves the plot of the prequels? Heck, I think it's a little better than the OT plot. *weapons raise* hear me out. The plot of The Phantom Menace was bland, and the love story between Padme and Anakin was done poorly. But seriously, this plot has done a ton to the lore and highly expanded the universe in great ways. Characters from the originals were given so much more depth. We saw how the Jedi order worked and how all of it's corruption brought Anakin closer to the dark side. The ideas of Anakin questioning this order that was going under the hard times of war was brilliant. We saw the origins of the Clone Wars and different parts of the Galaxy. It was amazing. While I'm at it, the acting was not that bad. There were some really bad lines in them, but the acting overall was decent. The Jedi may have not shown they're full emotion, but neither did the original trilogy cast. But they still showed a sense of seriousness, and they had and showed their own roles. On top of that, Hayden Christain and Ewan McGreggor casted emotion extremely well. People just seem to forget that because it's overshadowed by, "From my point of view the Jedi are evil!" Lastly, the Emperor actually was involved with the story of Darth Plagieus. Darth Plagieus was actually the Emperor's master. For those who don't know.
The story of The Prequels is way more interesting than The OT's. The fall of a hero and the ascension of an Empire is better than the classic and generic hero's journey. In my humble opinion. Now the way it was delivered was the problem and that's why The OT's story is considerate better by the popular opinion.
I think the basic plot had some great potential but couldn't have been executed worse. I really do think if they actually had some good writing this basic storyline (a political figure creating an empire through pulling the strings in background) could have been better than the OT.
Spawned some of the best Star Wars media period. The comics, the TV show, the games. Clone Wars were a lot more interesting than the Rebellion vs. Empire to be honest. It was an actual *war* and the Seperatists all had really cool designs.
when there is something agains't your will the internet people always goes agains' t it ..,so predictable ,if you say star wars prequels were good .the whole comment's will be filled with "I hate that ,I hate this " ...in a video about criticizing jar jar ,will probably be there a bunch of comments like "but I like jar jar" that is so predictable .fuck off internet
Wonder what GOOD things Doug considers in the Star Wars Clone Wars and Star Wars Rebels TV shows, or if he considers them to have any good things at all. I'm sure he'd make a swift argument about the whole rant between fans about what sucks in the Star Wars EU and what should or shouldn't be canon, ALL the Die-Hard fan complains
11 qui Gon Jinn 10 Les jar jar and Jake Lloyd 9 that kick ass sword fight 8 that other kick ass sword fight 7 The opera house scene 6 Owen McGregor as Obi-wan 5 most of revenge of the Sith 4 Darth Maul 3 The clone wars series 2 The score from Phantom Menace 1 The memes
And that alone is reason enough to like them. Not as good as ANH or ESB, but let's face it, Lucas kinda topped himself with "I am your father" and his work started to decay from there. I mean, a powerful empire defeated by a primitive tribe of Teddy Ruxpins? Are you fucking kidding me?
That was the point though. Lucas wanted to show how innovation and dedication can beat all powerful weapons. He intially intended it to be Wookies, till someone (I think it was Harrison Ford) pointed out that Chewie is a master mechanic, and therefore people would generally assume that Wookies are too tech savy and it would end poorly, thus he pulled Ewoks out his ass.
HolyknightVader999 True, but well. That is what Lucas said happened during production. He also intended to have the primiatives beat the Empire in a David VS Goliath fashion, and he originally intended to use Wookies. However, as Chewie was shown to be techonologically advanced, and lore-wise Wookies were enslaved by the Empire to work as repairers and builders of starfighters it was felt that they wouldn't work well.
I will say this about Jake Lloyd when it comes to facial expressions he could pull them off. For example, when it comes to the pod race scene, it looked like he enjoyed it. Sure most of it was shown when they were just testing out the jet engines but he still seemed to be enjoying it there and in the actual race. In fact, the race itself was one of those moments that felt relaxing and edge of your seat at the same time. I know that sounds weird but it's what I got out of it. But the major credit I could give to him is the expression on his face with Queen Amidala revealed who she was. I read everybody was kept in the dark about her identity in real life until she announced it. And among everyone's reaction, Jake Llyod's was my favorite
To be fair, the prequels have things about them that blind people from the fact that they’re bad movies. The John Williams score, the fight scenes, and the “good” comedy from those movies grabs people’s attention so much that they tend to overlook the flaws and just focus on liking what they’re getting.
+Destiny OGgaming Modz Not really! From what I saw, the prequels were pretty much unnecessary filler and felt like a shitty fan fiction written by a 13 year old angsty kid going through puberty.
+Destiny OGgaming Modz It wouldn't have mattered as A New Hope and the movies after it make sense on their own. In fact, all the prequels did was ruin the interesting backstories of the characters we loved. Like how Darth Vader became evil because he was in love with a generic love interest (oh so typical, ohoohoohoohuuh) and didn't wanna lose her yet lost her anyway, how the Force is just midichlorians instead of an energy field created by all living things, and how the stormtroopers are just clones of a bounty hunter that APPARENTLY is the father of Boba Fett. And that's just only the FEW examples of how the prequels are unnecessary fuck ups and didn't need to be canon to the original Star Wars trilogy. But regardless of that, I actually like the Star Wars prequels even if they're inept as fuck.......I mean The Phantom Menace can fuck off but the rest of them I think are decent.
Hayden Christensen will always be Anakin Skywalker for me, and after seeing so many negative comments about the prequels everywhere I went back and watched them again after many years.. I don't see what the hate is about, they're good movies, I would not call them terrible.They introduced a new storyline, new awesome music themes, awesome fight scenes. My fave is Revenge of the Sith, I could really feel Anakin's turn to the Dark Side, he looked more and more evil as the movie went on. After watching The Clone Wars series, Anakin turning to the Dark Side in RotS is even better. You gotta admit, Hayden does a pretty good evil glare. I start to see Darth Vader in him before he is even forced into the suit. Something the new film is lacking in is originality. Even the soundtrack isn't very memorable, sorry to say because I love John Williams.
Daniela Vasquez episode one was pretty terrible Imo. The hate is how horribly written it is. When the OT had cheesy dialog it was at least backed up with memorable and likable characters. That's just my two cents and only a small portion of why people actually hate the prequels.
I think the idea behind The Force Awakens being boring or repetitive is the fact that it had to first introduce everything that's going on. A New Hope had to show us all the creatures, technology, and conflict that exists within the entire galaxy. The Phantom Menace had to give us a picture as to what everything looked like 30+ years before A New Hope, while also giving us a conflict that's meant to kick-start the conflict found in rest of the prequel trilogy. I believe that The Force Awakens is trying to do the same thing. It's been 30-something years since the Battle of Endor, and Abrams has to show us everything that's changed. Luke Skywalker made a Jedi Order that flopped before going into exile out of guilt. An organization of Imperial remnants is hiding in the unknown regions and is being run by a mysterious figure whose goals we know nothing about. C-3PO has a red arm, and it will forever remain a great mystery until a Legends novel tries to explain it to us. I think that, like The Phantom Menace, The Force Awakens is merely kick-starting what's to come. It also tries to do a lot that the Original Trilogy did just to ensure that the future of Star Wars is in capable hands.
I hate The Phantom Menace but Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith were pretty great movies. Even the atrocious dialogue made me laugh, so I see no issue with liking the prequels. But you can’t call them “good” movies, they’re pretty bad and you can blame George Lucas’ dominance for that but at least we got some Star Wars movies that are almost as fun (if not as fun) to watch as the original trilogy.....plus the music from the prequels is amazing as fuck.
One that I would like to add is the Order 66 sequence. It is brilliantly shot and edited with the multiple viewpoints. You can feel the Jedi's anguish as these soldiers whom they have trusted and befriended strike them down. The emotions are felt through the audience. When I saw it, I didn't cry. I was beyond tears in shock. That's how effective a scene like that is. Also, it's Anakin's no turning back moment (at least at the time.) The moment where he truly becomes Darth Vader. The other reason is how many layers are added throughout the franchise. As we watch different perspectives from Clone Wars, Bad Batch, Fallen Order, and most recently Book of Boba Fett, we see how much this sequence became a flashbulb moment for the characters that lived through it. The survivor's lives were forever changed and it continued to haunt them a long time afterwards. If Endor is the ultimate turning point in the OT then Order 66 is the ultimate turning point in the PT.
4. Grassy Plains battle 5. Darth Maul vs Obi & Qui 6. Jango Fett 7. Battle of Geonosis 8. Count Dooku 9. Space battle over Coruscant 10. Droid attack on the wookies (Both the meme and the actual battle) 11. Invasion of Utapau I could keep going but I think we get the idea lol.
12. Jedi council 13. Pod racing 14. Clones 15. Jango Fett 16. All the villains were very memorable 17. The planets we got to see: Coruscant, geonosis, mustafar, kamino, naboo 18. Order 66 19. The transformation of the republic into the empire 20. The overall story of Anakin's origins, from how he was a slave to becoming one of the most powerful jedi who was never really acknowledged by the council I can go on and on prequels are so underrated
A French youtuber that study scenaries has shown that Anakin's Story was perfect and very coherent with the messages of the Original Trilogy, but that the 7Th bethayed the messages that the first Movies started. And it's why, The Prequels are better than Disney's Trilogy. He even had shown that the Original Trilogy made mistakes in the "Hero's path" and his scenari.
I didn't say that, I said that Anakin's Story was perfect, not the movies. You can say anything about the Romance and how it is Awkward (because it is), anything about Jar Jar (that's true, he is awful), anything about the Politic part in The Phantom Menace, but if there is one thing that was perfect in the Prequels was Anakin's fall to the Dark Side, his reasons, and how it is done, by the manipulation, frustration, the way of been a Jedi for the Order, and many thing were just perfect. Don't make the innocent, because we have a different point of view, you ask for the IQ, a not very subtil way to the say that we are "stupide".
"Fear leads to Anger, Anger leads to Hate, Hate leads to Pain" (I don't know the exactly Sentence, English isn't my language) Vader in Episode III had come to Hate and pain, and this is this pain that make him change, he understood that he lost Padmé, his entire Life etc... Because of his immaturity, it's exactly why he lost against Obi Wan, he was immature and under estimated Obi Wan because he was "So Powerful", He learn to know his limits, and that new body handicaped him, He can't win against The Emperor now by his wrath, he must be clever, have his own apprentice, and wait for the best moment to overthrow the Emperor.
+Nathan Cleveland I don't think Yoda wants to appear weak. He truly is old and tired when walking. But being a powerful Force user gives him ability to channel Force through his body to give him incredible speed and strength for a limtied time. He probably wouldn't be able to be like that all the time but when the need for action arises he can push himself to fast and deadly. At least that's how I see it:)
Finally a safe place where prequel lovers can state their opinions without being attacked by OG trilogy lovers (not saying OG trilogy is anywhere near bad, it’s just the fanbase)
It helps that a lot of people are likely applying hindsight to this trilogy after seeing the trainwreck that was the sequel trilogy. Nothing like a greater of two evils to make one bad product seem good in comparison!
Eh, I wouldn't say that, but they really don't deserve a lot of the hate they get. Except the stupid romance story. "AnAkIn, YoU bRoKe My hEaRt" That was the one thing they messed up.
I did too and then I watched some reviews and realised that they had a point. With the exception of Episode 2 (the love dialogue!!!!! Jesus Christ!) I can watch the prequels and them and find them okay.
"Why couldn't he just use his powers to give his enemies a heart attack?"
"A Jedi uses the force for knowledge and defense, never attack"
- Yoda, Empire Strikes Back
Yes, if he would do that he would become a sith so of course he do not do that. That is the weakness of a jedi, they can not use the force the way they want.
...Didn't mace crush grievous's lungs with the force that one time?
@@patrickwilliams7695 Mace Windu was considered one of the few 'Gray' Jedi, as in he followed the narrow line between the light and the dark side without straying to far to either path. There are very few in the star wars universe pre-empire who could do this due to the restrictions, but considering how absolutely powerful Master Windu was, it's not really surprisingly they let it slide.
"ATTACK THE KNOWLEDGE!"
-Yoda, the last jedi
Pretty sure Luke in Return of Jedi give the two gammorean guards heart attacks the first time you see him
Fun Fact: Ewan McGregor was extremely into the Star Wars series, even before the prequels were announced to be filmed. One of the greatest reasons for this was the fact that his Uncle was actually in the original trilogy, acting as Luke's good friend from Tatooine, who it is said Luke spent much time with. By the time the filming of the prequels was announced, Ewan was already a well known actor. Once he heard the news, he was ecstatic, extremely excited. Once he got the role of Obi Wan, he did every little thing he could in order to mirror the younger looks and actions of the original actor for Obi Wan. Ewan went all out, even using the original actor's image to form a look for Obi Wan slowly throughout the prequels. There's a video with an interview with Ewan that will explain more than I can.
phenox spartan link?
phenox spartan his uncle played wedge, not biggs...
Obiwanswat That's right, my bad. I couldn't remember the names.
That's funny, then, because so many people claim Obi-Wan was boring and wooden in Episode I - does that mean they think Obi-Wan was boring and wooden in Episode IV?
i thought Obi Wan was the most interesting character of the prequels in terms of performance. i think people are just trying to make the prequels seem worse than they really are. sure they were terrible as hell, but not every single detail about them is bad.
Ewan McGregor. He practically carried these films along with Ian Mcdirmid. Especially in episode III. I really hope there will be an Obi Wan spin off.
I think Ewan is supposed to return as a force ghost in the new trilogy. He was speaking to Rey in VII. I don't know how they'll explain him as being younger in a ghost form but hey, if anyone can do it, he can.
Seeing Ewan McGregor again in a spin off would be so awesome.
They could just make him appear older.
I would kill to see him reprise Obi-Wan. He was my favorite character and actor in the prequels.
Sean Dobbins Thing is though, he's like the perfect age for it to be set between episodes III and IV. They wouldn't really need to make him look that older.
Best thing about the prequels is the music. Absolutely breathtaking.
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All trilogies have good music tbh. That's why I love them
No its Sammuel L Jackson as Mace Windu
Not just the music all the sound design is superb.
i would add the Order 66 scene to the list
Fuck yeah!!!!
Yes definetly. It explains how the jedi became the myth in the original trilogy they were hunted down.
I would add the podracer scene from the phantom menace
The Pod Racer is a good thing of the prequels? Really? That scene was created just because of a (very bad) racing game, only made to put much more money on George Lucas's wise-ass bank account!
That being said, it was still a very well put together scene, Tiger Robocop.
I don’t understand why people don’t like qui gon Jin, I felt like Liam neeson played a damn good Jedi
I agree 100%.
He isn’t a well known character we don’t know much about, and blends in with all the other Jedi masters.
You have to had seen the comics and tv shows where he has a presences to actually understand and feel the character.
It's now how believable the character is, it's how necessary they are to the narrative.
wait, fans hate qui gon jin, why,
People hate Qui gon jin?
Also worth noting that the scores by John Williams are absolutely phenomenal. "Duel of the Fates" still stands out for me.
Chris Molyneaux Everyone mentions Duel of the Fates, but Battle of the Heroes was a lot better imo (although practically ever track in the prequels is amazing)
Mr. JustAGuyWithALightsaber I'm with you.
It’s controversial but I find the prequel music better than the original trilogy.
2:30
He mentions it as 11.5
Agreed, one of.my favorite Star Wars songs.
In defense of the awkward love banter : anakin has been spending years of his life with old men and has virtually no experience talking to girls, especially not ones he likes. It makes perfect sense for him to be an awkward teenage boy
Fair point but it's just not enjoyable to watch regardless
The dialogue in those scenes would have been hard for the greatest actor in the world to pull off.
@@karenhall4645 Word! For every "what have I done?" there is an equally unwatchable mental image of Lucas "directing" saying "Cut, that was perfect, Good Job Hayden!"
I can't blame him for thay. The Jedi are pretty stuck up asses
Not to mention, he WAS an awkward teenage boy when he meets her. That’s just factual, He was 19 for goodness sake! How can anyone expect a 19 year old kid to be a better wordsmith than D.H. Lawrence??? 😂😂😂😂
I LOVE Hayden as Anakin. George Lucas said he casted him because, while he is young, he also has a James Dean troubled-young-man vibe to him--a dark side--and I totally agree. Let us not forget that James Dean was hella whiny and mopey in his movies, yet he is still considered a screen legend and an icon.
His acting was intentional too. Anakin was described to him as emotionally detached, dead inside, and struggled to find the right words to say. So all of his “bad acting” is actually intentional
Matt black, and to add on to that Hayden tried to mimic James Earl Jones’ speech pattern.
@@zehahahahahahahahaha677 Hayden when he wasn't talking in revenge of the sith WAS Darth Vader. The dialogue was a bit cringe but i think that was sorta intentional
Let's be fair, Lucas fucked up Heyden's acting by his direction, which was also fucked up because nobody dared call him out on stuff he could make better
Plus he’s an actor he’s there to get the job done and listen to the director on his lines and characters
*Did you ever hear the tragedy of Darth Plagueis the Wise?*
*I thought not. It's not a story the Jedi would tell you. It's a Sith legend. Darth Plagueis was a Dark Lord of the Sith, so powerful and so wise he could use the Force to influence the midichlorians to create life... He had such a knowledge of the dark side that he could even keep the ones he cared about from dying. The dark side of the Force is a pathway to many abilities some consider to be unnatural. He became so powerful... the only thing he was afraid of was losing his power, which eventually, of course, he did. Unfortunately, he taught his apprentice everything he knew, then his apprentice killed him in his sleep. Ironic, he could save others from death, but not himself.*
Is it possible to learn this power?
@Robert Draconequus It's treason then
I heard this on a Canadian Softball song 😂
But...what about...the droid attack....on the wookies?
And now every force user can use force heal.
Honorable mention: Darth Maul. He's one of the best villains in the franchise. He's intimidating, memorable, and his lightsaber's awesome. I was surprised that he returned in Clone Wars.
If you actually gave the show a watch you would realize that they brought him back not only for fan service but also to tell a compelling story.
Wasteland Wasted no, no, he was saved by a bunch of fans at the bottom of the pit.
@Matt Welliver except unlike Boba Fett, Darth Maul actually DID things
@Matt Welliver thats why i say Jango Fett is the way better character. plus now with the Mandalorian show we get what that character SHOULD have been
Give me Durge over the fetts anyday
Yoda needs the cane because at the time of the prequels he was over 800 years old. He is only able to move around like that in combat by using the force. And as a Jedi master, he would never just use the force to help him move around because he would see that as selfish and a waste of the force in general.
JayAre Michael Good point.
@SavageGrenadier25 It is as well, misdirection. He also needed it as in the 2003 Clone Wars he used it as a weapon when he cant use his lightsaber.
No.. He was trying to claim disability
How does the force work like that?! It still would've affected his spine in some capacity.
It's to sort the evil from the merciful. Think about it. You would not assume that someone walking and limping with a cane would be so powerful. So if someone tries to mug Yoda and assumes he's weak, Yoda can kick ass when he needs to.
I love the Prequels for everything except the cringe worthy romance bits. I don't mind them being in love, but it was executed pretty badly. And Padme's character got assassinated because of it.
The prequels built the lore, was the reason the amazing Clone Wars series happened, and is where a lot of the extended Star Wars Universe and jedi culture was built off of. Plus the relationship between Obi Wan and Anakin was freaking amazing. Fun, full of chemistry, and the loss was felt deeply because of it.
Exactly i agree the romance is bad but the rest is good
I don't like sand.
Its coarse and rough
MRR D exactly...AND if you read The Rise and Fall of Darth Vader, then you get a better and more fleshed out romance story between Anakin and Padme...then when you rewatch the movies, they seem so much better, because you can easily see what the writers and Director were aiming for.
And the cgi
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@@bengates9722 Your move
_StarKhan_ oh, I don’t think so
@@bengates9722 *You fool!I was trained your jedi arts by Count Dooku!*
100% agree with your Hayden Christianson points ! He was perfect as the angry brooding raging Vader !
I agree! He was fun!
I think Hayden would be an amazing Jason Todd.
I can’t wait to see him come back for Obi-Wan Kenobi!
@Combat Sports Talk your be surprised most people do like that movie than the other movies
I know
Funny how you call the Emperor the Tim Curry of Star Wars when Tim Curry himself performed his voice for a time in "Star Wars: The Clone Wars"
Tim Curry was terrible as the Chancellor however.
Well the original voice actor did die so....yeah.
Yes, but they could have gotten someone to do a better impression than what they did.
Sure, and the voice actor they could have gotten should have been the actual actor to voice the role as well. Of course, by the time this happened the series was about to be canceled, unfortunately...so it seems all for not.
Tim Curry played Palpatine. That's awesome." you'll turn to"
Fun fact: Ray park (darth maul) doesn't blink throughout the phantom menace apart from when he dies
"Dies"
@@smithwesson1896 Hey, considering that he was cut in half and falling to his doom, he probably died *inside* a little bit
@@them. well if you include the extended universe he doesn't die (one of the reasons I hate disney cuz they got rid of it)
Brian Carlson he was in solo proving he lived. No one saw it though so I don’t blame you for not knowing
@@MidnightAssass1n Well, before Solo, he also appeared in Clone Wars and Rebels, which are still canon, and while I jumped off of Rebels early on, many people (including me) watched the entirety of Clone Wars, so yeah
I've never really met a star wars fan irl that hated the prequels as much as its portrayed online, I personally love them
You haven’t met many then
@@matthewheywood8532 where I live the main nerd consensus is that the originals are better the prequels are good tho and the new trilogy is highly divided
Master Trav no be I know thinks the prequels are good at best they say they are ok which is how I feel about them .
As for the new ones everyone like TFA and TLJ is mixed at best to hated
@@matthewheywood8532 dude opinions change in regions, mass around where I live believe the exact opposite with the new trilogy with force awakens suxks and tlj is better
personally, the star wars fans in my area have the opinion that the prequels are pretty good save for a few unsavory characters (those being Jar Jar and Anakin in the first 2 episodes), the originals are great, and the sequels, as once said by Red Letter Media about The Phantom Menace, 'are a bigger disappointment than my son'
i feel like when anakin went berserk after his mom died was an amazing scene
And the speech he had for Padme was emotionally driven. My favorite set of dialogue in that film
Too short
Once he calmed down a bit, fell back on his Jedi training as best he could.... and you could see the anger still there against Dooku.
@@robertgalvin8481 How was that too evil. Anyone would have gone berserk if their mom died.
@@Gadget-Walkmen Especially after dieing from torture by a group of savage animals.
you should've included the fact palpatine kept laughing in the fight with yoda, at first it seems corney but imagine you are the the most powerful user of the dark side, your enemies have been right in front of you the whole time but you couldnt use your power yet, however, you finally can unleash all of your power after years!
Also, Palpatine had already won when he executed order 66. At that point he's just having fun, like continuing a Civilization game after you've already reached a science victory.
Also the dark side feeds of emotion the same way as the light side feeds of being calm and collected.
The laughing is just very very great because it shows how evil and menacing he is
@@wtfduud I guess i can see your point... but how's that an ultimate Win Condition
@@xm_heecka.laddder.job_mx5962 because of how many Jedi were killed because of order 66! Yeah there were survivors. But I'm reminded of that one line one of the lizards in the good reboot to Thundercats once said when they invaded the cats capital about how they went from the Apex race to near-extinction in one night! Remember when it comes down to the Sith the end goal was the destruction of the Jedi. Their numbers are now low and they've now been defamed and he has become emperor permanently! A best Yoda was coming to kill him so at the very least that will put an end to his plans but even if he had killed him here and then the Jedi reputation was destroyed and their numbers low at best it took living under his tyranny for two decades before people wanted the Jedi back period but imagine if Yoda had actually succeeded! Palpatine already put down the groundwork that the Jedi have betrayed the Republic and tried to kill him already. This would just be seen as the remnant successfully assassinating him. Yes this also means that with his death that also means Vader would have died where he was left by Obi-Wan! But somebody would have taking the helm and in the end the Jedis reputation would not have been restored it would have been damaged almost forever because remember it took the Tyranny for people to basically start to ask where did Jedi really bad guys I mean it only took two decades for people to start believing the force was just fairy tales along with the Jedi if you had that one commander who is dumb enough to provoke Vader into Force choking him was an example alongside even Han saying it was a dead religion and not believing! There was time to cool down where in the worst-case scenario I'd have to say that people who look or are from the Middle East still get a bad rap as the definition of what a terrorist is to the point that people think terrorists means them instead of you know the actual description after what happened on September 11th even to this day!
2015: the Star Wars prequels are trash lmao
2018: the prequels are masterpieces
What a time to be alive
Ironic
Gotta love Disney Cannon to make ppl go back to loving the prequels
J Maloney 2019: the first two prequels are still bad movies with some good moments and for some reason people forget that
@@David-gj9qr we never forget, we just find new things to bch n hate about the sequel trilogies than the prequels
Another good thing about the prequels is that each villain foreshadows a part of Vader. Maul = Sith, Count Dooku = Fallen Jedi, Grevious = Cyborg. Add these three and you get Darth Vader. George Lucas is a true genius.
That was never his intentions tho,both Maul and Dooku was originally supposed to be women and i forgot Grievous origin,but it wasn't a cyborg originally...if anything your mind found a connection between those 3 unique characters referencing 1...Only geniuses can find a common similarity between multiple things and people that others can't...
Cyborg with breathing problems
@@ninjaworld101 It truly is,little details like that gives the Prequels some rewind value,which is what it needs for the trilogy as a whole and not just have Ep.3 hog all the glory lol
The man created characters for a prequel series that with traits that foreshadowed another character. I wouldn't call that being a genius.
@@damainmane4765 The gender of Maul and Dooku doesn't effect what he's saying, and as I recall Anakin wasn't always a cyborg either.
Another great casting choice: Christopher Lee as Count Dooku. He was just a badass all around.
He basically plays Saruman again
@@youtubeistryingtocensorme He does, but then again, Saruman would probably fit pretty well in the Star Wars universe in terms of personality, just swap the magic powers for force abilities.
@@jacksongrantham4848 isn't the force a form of space magic?? Lol people call them "space wizards"
@@N.I.A23 eh, not exactly.
@@N.I.A23 It is to the night sisters
The Clone Wars tv series. They made these characters awesome again and expanded the Star Wars mythos. The clones were also great, for characters that were literally made to be expendable I really cared about them.
It made us care more about the characters from the prequels. Even if I already cared about them before the series, the depth, backstory, personality, and overall persona of them was hugely expanded, it gave me reason to enjoy the prequels more than I did initially and give them another watch.
And gave us many new fan-favorite characters that weren't in any Star Wars media prior to the series.
I know it add up to be about two hours in the end but I still like the star wars mini series clone wars (the one that was in 5 min segments). It was fast paced but not rushed and filled in what happened between episodes 2 and 3 including why grievous had a breathing problem.
Clone Wars should've been Episode 2, just after Attack of the Clones (without the dumb romance scenes removed to explain what happened during Phantom Menace).
Thomas Grindol
True. It gave us a better look in onto Anakin’s distrust in the council and a better look at other characters like Plo-koon and Kit Fisto
I got my autograph from Ian Mcdiarmid (the emperor) at Comic-Con, and he has such a charming personality that you feel so comfortable around him. Even though you know he’s not an evil man in real life, you still can’t shake that dark presence.
Ian McDiarmid seems like a great guy in real life. I haven't met him but in the behind the scenes footage of Revenge of the Sith he seems to be a very respectable gentleman. However, he clearly loved playing Palpatine so I wonder how much of his own inner darkness (everyone has it, it just takes different forms depending on the person) he was channeling in order to portray him? Every time he was onscreen, whether he was being subtle, cheerful, manipulative, charming, humorous, vicious or batshit insane, he was having the time of his life. Like Doug said here, you see him in every light a good villain should be seen in. Sometimes he was over-the-top but he also knew when to be quiet and just let you soak up how charmingly evil Palpatine was.
nostalgia critic: the emperor in the prequels is by far the best character
me:
A surprise to be sure, but a welcome one.
100% agree, he adds so much more depth to the manipulative, extremely intelligent and talented puppet master character rather than just an old decrepit looking ballsack in the OT. Really loved the plot ideas- how the empire developed through political manouvering and his manipulation of anakin, seeing vader as a kind little kid contrasting with the huge menacing figure and then seeing how and why he became vader. The execution was absolutely atrocious though. so much potential all fucked up.
@Mammoth Supremacy 55 not yet
Critic: I like the fights, I like some of the acting, I like how they added lore, I like the sets, and I liked some of the jokes.
Me: sooo... you like the prequels
I think when people say they hate the Prequels they generally mean they hate the dialogue and some of the bad humor. Episode 1 & 2 can also be very... very boring at points.
It boils down to almost everything you listed needing the suffix "at times". A successful movie can make you feel like that most, if not all of the time. I'm guessing the prequels didn't do so for most fans.
Brainz PVZ He liked a lot of episode 3 but the other two he mostly dislikes.
@A Character Wow, great arguments...
@A Character You're forgetting the fights, the lore, *some* of the acting, and being the reason "The Clone Wars" exists
'So this is how liberty dies. With thunderous applause.'
Yep, that's how it happened in 2020!
@@LadyOnikara No that's how it happened in 2016 when a demagogue lost the popular vote and became "leader" anyway. They tried to destroy liberty again January 6th 2021. When you try to use an angry mob to steal an election you LOST that is an attack on Liberty. When you file sixty lawsuits against your own coutry that all get thrown out for zero proof. That is an attack on liberty.
I had to think of the scene, too. :D Best one in the whole movie.
@@DanaTheInsane You've really bought into the Establishment propaganda haven't you.
@@DarkAngel459felt like i was reading a NPR op ed lol
Episode 3 is my favorite out of the Star Wars prequels.
Hi! I had to cut poverty in the school gymnasium I think it was almost everyone’s lol
I think its the only sane position to take. Regardless how good or bad you think they are, Ep III is way better than the other two.
Out of the all star wars
@Merciless Freak All movies do, Revenge of the Sith is my favorite also. I mean you have to realize that three of the movies are utterly terrible, that being episode 2,7 and 8. 1 is medicore as well. So that leaves only half the movies on the good and great scale. The only one I'd put on par with 3 is 5.
@Merciless Freak well its just my own opinion
I loved the emperor's "I'm afraid the deflector shield will be quite operational when your friends arrive" because it feels that he was mocking Luke for his plan
That's exactly what he meant by that.
My friend and I have a thing going where whenever we quote that line, we have to wave our heads violently like in that scene from the Family Guy Star Wars parody.
I love how they have Chris say exactly what everyone thinks when he does that too:
"OKay, there's no need to be such a dick about it."
uScaredHD sidious was pretty much the same in both trilogies.
Hayden was the perfect choice for Anakin. As well as the realization of Padme getting pregnant. Great scene.
Some things I personally think deserve more recognition
1. The Order 66 scene
2. The Birth of Vader & Padme's pregnancy
3. Bridging the gap between Episode 3 & Episode 4
4. The Final battle between Obi Wan & Anakin
The Battle of Kashyyyk was amazing in my opinion
And the Tarzan wookies
J.G Productions 5. The pod racing scene from TPM
1. Sand
1. General greves
You have to admit he looks really fucking awesome
Another Good thing about the Phantom Menace is that it gave the inspiration for a song called "The Saga Begins" to be made.
BRRGames Weird Al ftw
Long, long time ago
In a galaxy far away
Naboo was under an attack
MM MM My my this here Anakin guy, maybe Vader someday later now he's just a small fry
BRRGames I love that son
So great the guy who wrote American Pie accidentally mixes up his lyrics with Al's. Heck, the fact that he managed to deduce the whole plot of Phantom Menace _before it was released._
The Padme pregnant scene was handled extremely well
Mr Hole yep I agree
@@ghostgalaxy2000 ok
Yeah... if only they managed to put that kind of complexity into the rest of the romance scenes.
Except for the part where Leia "remembers" her mother.
“The ability to speak does not make you intelligent.”
Who’s the person her surname is from? Bail Organa. Who’s the woman next to him during the finale, showing where the Skywalkers went? His wife.
Ergo, the “mother” Leia remembers isn’t her birth mother, but her adoptive mother.
You have working eyes, you have Google.... but you don’t use them.
12: Revenge of the sith, the whole movie.
Thank you! It's actually tied with A New Hope as my favorite!
Except for the “she’s losing the will to live” scene. But other than that, Episode 3 is great
Joshua D I choose to believe that she actually died because the Emperor was using Darth Plagueis’ powers to keep Vader alive, while taking life from Padmè in the process to make it all work.
EDIT: By the way, I didn't think of this myself. It was CinemaWins' idea, but I liked it and decided to share it with y'all.
Probably my second favourite Star Wwars movie.
No
With Critic's lines about Obi-Wan, I wonder…
What would happen if we were to look at this movie _not_ as Anakin's and fall to the Dark Side, but as Obi-Wan's transition from a young apprentice, to the guy we know and love?
dudebladeX why not both?
I really don't like how obi-wan is handled. It makes so he doesn't really seem to develope that much from the prequels.
Hey, it's still a better love story than Twilight.
CeleryHunter143 But the sand is coarse and irritating.
Then again, anything's a better love story then twilight.
EDIT: Oh, and to clarify, I enjoy the prequals so I'm not here to do that.
you fool
twilight IS the sand!
No, not anything. 50 shades is far worse.
(Insert Final Fantasy X Tidus laugh here)
Honestly, I don't hate the prequels. In fact I didn't even know they were hated til one of my teachers mentioned hating JarJar. Even now I don't have a reason to hate them, despite me admitting that they have flaws that could been done better. Saddly, I didn't know how to explain it, but this video helped me out.
Consider also watching CinemaWins' "Everything GREAT About..." videos on each of the prequel films. His analyses are fantastic and made me consider aspects of the story I've never thought about before. His videos helped me to conclude that the prequels are actually quite good films, and the only thing that held them back was the execution.
Here's the video on TPM: ua-cam.com/video/QppINK042N8/v-deo.html
Yeah me too
When Yoda drew that lightsaber in Episode 2, the audience ROARED with applause.
The Tim Curry of Star Wars you say? How interesting that eventually he would play the emperor in the later seasons of The Clone Wars.
Tim Curry was seriously miscasted in that horrible show.
@KayKo Sorry, but that's just what i think. Don't get me wrong, he is a great actor, but i never imagine him playing the Emperor. If you liked the casting, that's okay. I just don't think the new voice fit him. That's all.
Also, i liked the reference there.
Funny that's the case, because Tim Curry and Ian McDiarmid used to be roommates in Glasgow a long time ago when, as Ian put it, they were much younger actors, "pre-Rocky Horror days." I thought that was one of the best/funniest things I'd ever heard in my life. LOL
@@AishaVonFossen Really?
Mind blown! Either way, i still thought Curry was mis casted. That's just my opinion.
@@tylerfish2701 I liked the show especially the parts with the clones
D I D Y O U E V E R H E A R T H E T R A D G E T Y O F D A R T H P L A G U I S T H E W I S E
no.
locke103 I thought not its not the kind of story the jedi would tell you.
**evil head turn**
Yes, it’s ironic
No but I have heard of the tragedy of Darth Chef
Number 12: The Order 66 scene
Number 13: Obi Wan's "you were the chosen one!" monologue. How obi managed to cut anakins limbs just looked ridiculous, but the emotion put into that last speech was undeniably human and powerful. " you were my brother anakin, I loved you".
Except that that speech is rendered meaningless considering he was never "like a brother" to anakin.
Both the Prequels and The Clone Wars AND the comics shows how much Kenobi loved Skywalker.
PuppyStream true
You mean lazy story telling that ties up all loos ends and conflicts with the originals
Number 1: Revenge of the Sith
Literally what we the people wanted and love to this day.
As long as you don't mind the clumsy isnta-fall of Vader.
Senator Ovaltine: "You can save Padme, but only if you are evil."
Little Orphan Ani: "Ok, I'm super evil now, I make slaughter-dead all the children!"
@@daddywarbucks81 No, just FUCKING no. To say that Anakin’s fall to the dark side is “abrupt” or out of “Nowhere” is simply not true and a failure of understanding. The entire movie’s direction is pinpointing to the act of Choices of you value the most.
From episode 2, Anakin gets visions on his mother being endanger and being under stress. When he finally finds out where she is, she dies in his arms, and becomes enraged and starts killing in a mass rampage on the people who killed her.
It makes sense to get pissed off and go enraged if you’re mom dies and ESPECIALLY if she gets killed. I don’t know what person who doesn’t love their own mother wouldn’t go on a killing spree if someone killed the person they loved especially when they easily have the power to do so.
Do I approve of the act, no, but it makes sense given the content.
At Shimi’s Funeral, Anakin promises that he doesn’t want anymore people the cares about to die anymore and desires to have the power to stop that from happening.
Years later where in episode 3.
The main plot device in this movie is Anakin’s vision of his wife dying in labor. Anakin already got a vision of someone he loved dies in his visions so him not accepting that someone else could die is just absurd and it makes sense for him to act.
From that moment on Anakin is under a ticking time bomb clock for months on end on what he has to do. He’s constantly worrying about how he has he’s trying to save her throughout the film so much that he has to go to master Yoda for advice ,but even then, that advice is abysmal to tell someone to just let their wife die (granted he didn’t know that was the reason but still).
And given the fact that he was getting conflicted feelings towards the Jedi order given the fact the council didn’t trust him and forcing him to spy over him friend for the council, things were only getting worse for Anakin getting to where his allegiance lies onto.
Anakin as a person was always a character who submitted to his emotions and got VERY personal when things effected him. This is even carried over to the clone wars show.
He chose to have a wife when he was the Jedi Order forbid to love, he chose to rescue Obiwan instead leave him when he had to save the chancellor, and he lunged after dooku after when he shot padme.
Anakin's emotions were like a clock bomb. He clearly suffered tremendously from his childhood and the death of his mother, yet no one helped him in the order except for telling him to forget about his emotions, add that to the continuous stress of war and there you have it, a jealous, irascible and tormented man.
Him doing hasty emotional decisions has always been ingrained into his character and he’s left into a emotional breaking point at the point of his wife’s inevitable death. And then Palpaltine, being someone who was always close to him, give him a promise that he could save his loved one.
Anakin is left with a conflicting choice after realizing his options, either let his wife and children die and stay true to the Jedi order or do whatever it takes to save the people he love even if it means damning himself.
At the moment, when he sees mace windu about to kill the Sith Lord who was unarmed (the thing that Jedi are not supposed to do) and have mace say the say line about “he’s too dangerous to kept alive” about sidious, the same line that sidious said about dooku, the line for Jedi and Sith for him gets blurred.
He makes his choice, he slays windups along with Palpatine and choices to side with the dark side as long as it gets him what he wants.
NOTING about this was “forced” or unconvincing. This was VERY well built up from episode 2 and onward.
And what was he to do, huh?
Ask the Jedi council/order for help?
You mean the same order that says it’s wrong to love and say having emotions are bad and to just mediate your problems away?
The same order that takes children from their families and have them never see each other again?
The same order that publicly humiliates a 9 year old kid in front of it’s leaders for loving his mom instead of being a emotionless drone?
The same order that doesn’t go out to save that 9 year old kid’s mom from slavery and allows slavery to happen instill caustrophes happen?
The council clearly didn’t trust because he had “emotions”. Fucking EMOTIONS. That alone was enough for them to not be trustworthy of him, that’s insane.
And it’s clearly written that way to highlight how arrogant and dogmatic these monks are with their views and traditions which are the REASON for why this shit even started. If the Jedi were more opened minded to things and ways of lives as simple as something as allowing someone to love and actually talked to each other personally instead of just telling them to mediate their problems out of the picture, none of this shit would have happen.
If the Jedi order were capable of stopping someone from death, that would have been shown to do so and it clearly wasn’t and Anakin was in a ticking clock count down for him to find a solution to his problem and Palpatine, the person who always been at his good side and tells him what he feels isn’t wrong and tried to be his understanding friend, was there for him with a possible solution.
This was about making a choice.
An extremely difficult fucking choice to make for himself.
The woman he loves or the Jedi Order.
Love or duty.
An individual or a whole foundation.
And he made his choice on what’s the most important thing t o him.
This is a question that most people have a hard time answering, these “what if” that people have a hard time answering and for Anakin, these “what if you had to choose you’re wife or thousands to innocents of people,” became reality.
And
Anakin commits a genocide, he slaughters innocents, and he allows evil to exist because
Anakin killing children isn’t something he relishes on doing as there’s no evidence to say that he say that he did in anyway but He values Padme and his future family MORE than the lives of people who he doesn’t have any real attachment too.
Does he enjoy it, no, but he does it regardless because that’s the path he does to attain power for who he values MORE than anyone else.
He even acknowledges what he did was bad by crying a moment at mustrafar after killing the separatists leaders but accepts his decision by not backing down and knowing he can’t go back on his decision.
Him chocking out Padme is his mind getting corrupted by the dark side as there is so much evidence to say the dark side makes you do irrational actions because the dark side is based on fear, hatred, anger and those traits NEVER make anyone do rational actions unless you’re palatine who relish on that shit.
There’s a reason for why the rule of two was created, because the Sith are so illogical in the dark side to the point it resulted in too much infighting in mass scale that it would eventually lead to their own annihilation because power, insanity, and vice so they decided to only have TWO Sith because only two should be enough that continue their existence, and even then their STILL betraying one another for power.
So it makes sense for Anakin’s insane decision making and ramblings.
That’s what the dark side DOES, it makes you insane.
Look at fucking Darth Maul how he got cut in half and got pissed at Kenobi for DECADES for doing so even though he doesn’t see the hypocrisy that he himself is slaughtering innocent people left and right in his life BEFORE and after the act.
The dark side of the force warps your mind and makes you do crazy shit.
These movies are from being pitch perfect, as the romance is horrid to watch and somewhat illogical to even being with, the dialogue is still atrocious, and too much CGI everywhere but Anakin’s development on what he values above all else makes sense and is done well.
@@daddywarbucks81 That's a massive misunderstanding of the film. No wonder you don't enjoy it with ignorance like that...
The best thing about the prequels was that they spawned The Clone Wars TV SHOW.
Cody Hines I'm watching it for the first time now and it's awesome!!
Look up for the Obi-Wan storylines. They are so awesome :O
True! They fixed a lot of things, including making Anakin bad ass instead of whiny. And the clones, OMG the clones are great!
and showed the better relationship between anakin and obi-wan
Cody Hines Except about Grievous.
the clone wars show was the best thing that happened to the prequel trilogy.
Since*
"We got so old."
PKMN Trainer Mark "Preach!"
*Mid-fight* "Oh, my back just gave out!"
UA-cam in 2015: let’s make fun of the prequels
UA-cam in 2022: let’s talk about how much we love the prequels
Time changes
You are right about Hayden. He does have a very expressive look. Perfect Vader.
the two things I dislike about the prequels was Jar Jar and the love scenes. I'm okay with the rest
Finally someone said it.
Agreed! And Shmi... Aweful acting.
I think the Darth Jar Jar theory could have fixed many of the problems with the prequels.
The Darth Jar Jar thing could have made everything so much better...
JarJar never bothered me. In fact, I think he could have been the answer to one of my biggest problems with the Prequels: There's no everyman. Seriously, every person in the Prequels is connected to either the Force or the Senate. There is no character is not bound by these restraints, someone who can actually say what the audience says like Han Solo in the original trilogy. JarJar could have filled this role but Lucas downplayed him after Ep1.
jar jar love scenes ? wtf where ? when ! noooooo.....now that you said it ..We demand a movie about JAr JAR origins ..his history ,his loves . the gungan city .which is awesome by the way .I wish we could build cities like that underwater.. wow
I truly believe that the problem of the prequels is in the execution. You'll find the worst of it in some of the details, but when you check the overall plot, it's maybe one of the best stories you'll find. If you add the story of the Original Trilogy, and look it all as a one big story, there's no "maybe". We get to see the story of a war in such a way it feels as if it actually happened. We get to see the republic, why the war started, the consequences, the fall, the empire, the rebellion and the start of a new era. And the story of the characters that directly affected it, even tho all of em' have goofy moments, is just great. Not because someone is a hero/villain in a story, it has to be badass and perfect in every aspect, moment and second of it's life. They are people that, just like most of people, do stupid things and take the wrong choice sometimes. We should take on count the things they did that actually affected the events on the story, for example, things like Anakin's decision of betraying the Jedi Order, and the decision of ending the Empire and his redemption, not that time he talked about his hate for the sand. I mean, we all say stupid shit for no reason every now and then, don't we?
I definitely agree!
Exactly! The execution was the only thing holding them back. To this day I wish Lucas took Spielberg's offer to direct The Phantom Menace; I'm sure it would've turned out better in execution. If you're interested in watching great video essays on why the prequels were actually good films, check out CinemaWins' videos. Here's TPM: ua-cam.com/video/QppINK042N8/v-deo.html
"Why does Yoda use a cane when he kicks so much ass?" I think he uses a cane because he wants to throw off his attackers. It's all a facade. He's actually super powerful but it's believable that an almost 900 year old being would need a cane. So when he throws that cane down and pulls out a light saber, you know it's going to be a good fight.
Personally I think that during fights he uses the force to compensate for his aging body, but when he's not fighting and not using the force to aid him he actually does need the cane.
Love that, seeing as during order 66 two stormtroopers figured Yoda would’ve been as easy to gun down as the rest of the Jedi 😅 before the swoooosh! And then no head!
Revenge of the Sith is amazing.
OBINNA OKOLIGAN from my point of view revenge of the sith is evil
I agree completely. Hayden and Ian were my favorite actors in the movie and had the best scenes. And the lightsaber duels were amazing!
Same
*masterpiece
4:48- yoda uses a cane for various reasons. For one, it’s a great way to make your enemies underestimate you. Also, his cane is made from a special wood from dagobah that is able to “attract” for lack of a better term, the force swirling in the air around it and give it to the user. Yoda draws energy from his cane to be able to fight like that, but doesn’t constantly draw from it because he respects the force
Sounds an awful lot like fan fiction to me. I much prefer the idea that while Yoda is quite frail in his state, his knowledge and mastery of the force allows him to overcome that by giving of a burst of agility and physical strength. It would explain why his fight scenes are so short in canonical fights as that wears off.
It's even present when he lifts the X Wing from the swamp. If his staff was some sort of limitless force channeling device then he would not have looked nearly as tired as did after moving that.
@@grizzl360 i do believe both of these are true, and used to be canon (in one way or another).
the cane i'm not sure on, but i doubt it'd be limitless- it's more like a palliative.
but i'm pretty sure him using the force to move his body and give him the strength of his youth is canon. but it's temporary- hence why after fighting, he immediately calls his cane back before walking. using the force does put strain on you.
Before his fight with duku he absorbed force lightning and he drops the cane, he is really old and frail yes but he is a true master of the force with no real equals so I can believe him using some technique that allows him to fight like we see
As a guy who has seen the Prequel Trilogy a fair number of times, I have to say the hate towards them is utterly ridiculous. They along with the Original Trilogy are equally good. People who say that they are the worst things humanity has to offer are just ridiculing those who enjoy them (that means YOU, Simon Pegg). If you don't like them, that's ok, no one said you HAVE to like them. However, if you do nothing but whine and complain about them to the point where other people who enjoy them begin to dislike them, I can't consider you a real Star Wars fan.
D. J.
It's called hyperbole. If I say "the prequels are the worst thing since the holocaust" I'm not being literal. Also no, they do not compare in quality. Bland characters and cinematography, horrible writing and a major case of uncanny valley isn't excused by some over the top action.
Nobody really cares who you consider to be a real Star Wars fan, I for example don't think you are a real Star Wars fan
D. J.
I actually liked most of Hayden Christensen's acting in Revenge of the Sith. Yes he sounded kinda monotonous, but it gave him this pompous, overconfident energy that he was meant to have as the hero of the clone wars and the 'chosen one' with exceptional talent. He was supposed to be growing too big for his boots. It was only the last bit ("I have bought peace, freedom, justice and security to my new empire!") where it went downhill hard.
You are aware that palpatine was the apprentice who killed Darth plagueis
It's why I've always gone with the theory that he caused Anakin to be born
fyreoblar Actually, in the 2017 Darth Vader comic, it was confirmed that Palpatine was the one who created Anakin.
Angry Clone Face was it ever confirmed that Padme dies because Sidious siphoned her life force to give to Anakin while he is undergoing his surgery? I read a theory about that which if it was true it makes her death so much more tragic and credible
PantherMistress88 I’m not sure. You may have to do some digging on Wookeepedia to find out.
That isn't stated in the films, so when reviewing the scene in its original context, it isn't known that Palpatine is telling a story about himself.
“the apprentice” who killed Darth Plageuis in his sleep is actually Palpatine/Darth Sidious/the Emperor-so he’s referencing himself
The Clone Wars show. It was everything the prequels should have been: good voice acting, great action, a cheesy but aware that it is script, various locations, and, most importantly, character devellopment
that show is so damn good
I read through Matthew Stover's Revenge of the Sith novelization. I'm going to say this: For me, Stover does a really good job of how Sidious manipulates Anakin. Anakin's thoughts as he learns he kills Padme was done really well. For me, its so much better than the movie. I like the prequels a lot more than your average person, but Stover does a great job. Not perfect, as some dialogue is not-so-fantastic, but really, really well. Apologies if unwelcomed. What Sidious said to Anankin when manipulating him, his philosophy on the Jedi and Sith, was really good and made fair amount of sense to not only Anakin In-universe, but to I myself as a reader - to me, in my humble opinion, at the very least. I truly liked Vader's thoughts as he learns he killed Padme. The "Nooooooo!!!!" scream is not in the novel, and it seems Padme genuinely died at Anakin's hand gradually. I recommend Matthew Stover's book to you not only because it does almost (I say "almost" because SOME of the dialogue is not so fantastic, but great other than that.) everything better, gives insight onto the situations and the character's thoughts, but above all else: You get to see WHY Anakin does the things he does. To me, Sidious' words to Anakin and his manipulation of him makes a fair amount of sense to me as a reader and fan of Star Wars. At one point in the novel, Anakin is suspecting that there is someone between him and Padme, so he squeezes her shoulders (Not enough to kill her, or crush her shoulders, but it still hurt a little bit) , she says "you're hurting us", and he stops, as she explains she is pregnant. That is all I'm going to tell you; wouldn't want to spoil it all.
Here is an excerpt: 'Anakin was barely paying attention; in his mind, he was already leaving the Council Chamber, riding the turbolift to the archives, demanding access to the restricted vault by authority of his new rank-"You will attend the meetings of this Council," the Korun Master said, "but you will not be granted the rank and privileges of a Jedi Master."
"What?"
It was a small word, a simple word, an instinctive recoil from words that felt like punches, like stun blasts exploding inside his brain that left his head ringing and the room spinning around him-but even to his own ears, the voice that came from his lips didn't sound like his own. It was deeper, darker, clipped and oiled, resonating from the depths of his heart.
It didn't sound like him at all, and it smoked with fury.
"How dare you? How dare you?"
Anakin stood welded to the floor, motionless. He wasn't even truly aware of speaking. It was as if someone else were using his mouth-and now, finally, he recognized the voice.
It sounded like Dooku. But it was not Dooku's voice.
It was the voice of Dooku's destroyer.
"No Jedi in this room can match my power-no Jedi in the galaxy! You think you can deny Mastery to me?"
"The Chancellor's representative you are," Yoda said. "And it is as his representative you shall attend the Council. Sit in this Chamber you will, but no vote will you have. The Chancellor's views you shall present. His wishes. His ideas and directives. Not your own."
Up from the depths of his furnace heart came an answer so far transcending fury that it sounded cold as interstellar space. "This is an insult to me, and to the Chancellor. Do not imagine that it will be tolerated."
Mace Windu's eyes were as cold as the voice from Anakin's mouth. "Take your seat, young Skywalker."
Anakin matched his stare. Perhaps I'll take yours. His own voice inside his head, had a hot black fire that smoked from the depths of his furnace heart. You think you can stop me from saving my love? You think you can make me watch her die? Go ahead and Vaapad this, you-"Anakin," Obi-Wan said softly. He gestured to an empty seat beside him. "Please."
And something in Obi-Wan's gentle voice, in his simple, straightforward request, sent his anger slinking off ashamed, and Anakin found himself alone on the carpet in the middle of the Jedi Council, blinking.
He suddenly felt very young, and very foolish. "Forgive me, Masters." His bow of contrition couldn't hide the blaze of embarrassment that climbed his cheeks.'
And probably the part I like the most:
'This is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker, forever:
The first dawn of light in your universe brings pain.
The light burns you. It will always burn you. Part of you will always lie upon black glass sand beside a lake of fire while flames chew upon your flesh.
You can hear yourself breathing. It comes hard, and harsh, and it scrapes nerves already raw, but you cannot stop it. You can never stop it. You cannot even slow it down.
You don't even have lungs anymore.
Mechanisms hardwired into your chest breathe for you. They will pump oxygen into your bloodstream forever.
*Lord Vader? Lord Vader, can you hear me? *
And you can't, not in the way you once did. Sensors in the shell that prisons your head trickle meaning directly into your brain.
You open your scorched-pale eyes; optical sensors integrate light and shadow into a hideous simulacrum of the world around you.
Or perhaps the simulacrum is perfect, and it is the world that is hideous.
*Padmé? Are you here? Are you all right? *you try to say, but another voice speaks for you, out from the vocabulator that serves you for burned-away lips and tongue and throat.
"Padmé? Are you here? Are you all right?"
I'm very sorry, Lord Vader. I'm afraid she died. It seems in your anger, you killed her.
This burns hotter than the lava had.
"No … no, it is not possible!"
You loved her. You will always love her. You could never will her death.
Never.
But you remember …
You remember all of it.
You remember the dragon that you brought Vader forth from your heart to slay. You remember the cold venom in Vader's blood. You remember the furnace of Vader's fury, and the black hatred of seizing her throat to silence her lying mouth-
And there is one blazing moment in which you finally understand that there was no dragon. That there was no Vader. That there was only you. Only Anakin Skywalker.
That it was all you.
Is you.
Only you.
You did it.
You killed her.
You killed her because, finally, when you could have saved her, when you could have gone away with her, when you could have been thinking about her, you were thinking about yourself … It is in this blazing moment that you finally understand the trap of the dark side, the final cruelty of the Sith-
Because now your self is all you will ever have.
And you rage and scream and reach through the Force to crush the shadow who has destroyed you, but you are so far less now than what you were, you are more than half machine, you are like a painter gone blind, a composer gone deaf, you can remember where the power was but the power you can touch is only a memory, and so with all your world-destroying fury it is only droids around you that implode, and equipment, and the table on which you were strapped shatters, and in the end, you cannot touch the shadow.
In the end, you do not even want to.
In the end, the shadow is all you have left.
Because the shadow understands you, the shadow forgives you, the shadow gathers you unto itself-
And within your furnace heart, you burn in your own flame.
This is how it feels to be Anakin Skywalker. Forever …'
Hell even and Season 1 (along with the movie) were better than the Last Jedi!
ΕΛΕΝΗ ΧΑΡΑΛΑΜΠΙΔΟΥ a 3 hour Jar Jar movie would be better than TLJ. Speaking of which, I actually felt like the Clone Wars definitely improved on Jar Jar (somehow), the final season in particular.
Yes! And remember that situation when Grievious went to Naboo to disgust with the Guangans? Anakin dressed Jar-Jar as their leader and at one point Jar-Jar said "messa .I can't!" That in my opinion was a really important part of his character. Jar-Jar knows that he is a screw-up character and no matter how hard he tries he makes things worse. That statement showed that he may be a screw-up but he is definitely not an idiot, the whole situation has affected him and it has hit his self-confidence.
I don't care what anyone says, I really like general Grievous. He has such a cool design and voice.
And just a badass
Can't use the force but kills Jedi like farm animals
Agreed.
In the show he was *A MONSTER* ... ! like a walking tank, with force powers!
Gardevoir Trainer agreed
Especially the Clone Wars!
I still don’t know why everyone hates the prequels I grew up with them and loved them and loved the clone wars era
I...actually loved the prequels.
*FIGHT ME!*
(I'm coming back to this comment one year later after completely forgetting about it, and holy crap I'm scrolling through 136 comments)
i love all of them
Tbh jar jar was really cringy and how anakin's lines were also cringy so people are blaming the actors instead of the writers none the less I love them
Me too. Peace ✌🏻
Me to :)
I only liked part lll
in my opinion i feel people pointlessly hate this film when theres no need for it
1: people complain about jarjar when hes easily ignorable and after the first film as you said hes downplayed even more
2: people complain about the CGI but i feel there are certine scenes that would have looked terrible if done practically and i think people should go into the prequals expecting cgi since its triying to be wider and bigger
3: i feel the acting is intentionally serious, and this comes from how jedi are trained, they are trained to disregaurd emotion as emotion leads to the dark side
UndertaleSkeleBros The acting may also be intentionally serious and flat due to this being a tragedy. In Ancient Greek tragic plays, the actors would wear masks. It was the music that determined the emotion of the scenes, and in the prequels, John William’s score does the same thing. If this was intentional, that’s honestly genius. And George Lucas loves myth and paying homage to other stories, so I don’t think it’s out of question to say that it was intentional.
People also need to remember that the CG was mostly used for creature effects in the Prequels.
Well the CGI was also used for city scapes and planets, because it would have taken too long to make. They said it would have bankrupt the film to build everything of every set the way it was designed. But this was one of the first huge movies to use CGI so this hadn't really been done before.
I totally agree with you, guys! I was thinking the reason why they use CGI so much is because they need to show all the worlds and special effects in the Star Wars universe! 😁
Jar Jar is essentially a problem the first film has alone, and he's basically cut out of the rest of them. Also, with world building, which is what Lucas did best, he knocked it out of the park. I mean it was an amazing imagination that came up with the likes of the underwater Gungan cities, or the cloning facilities on the perpetual storming planet of Kamino, the sinkholes of Utapau or even the droid factory worlds of Geonosis and Mustafar. The prequels had some of the most unique and interesting planets of the films. Hell, even Coroscant was fascinating, the idea of an entire planet being a city. They even had Polis Massa, which was a station made entirely of asteroids. Even if the characters in them made them lack "personality", they were very interesting and amazing worlds. I mean, you have this smourgasboard of worlds, compared to the like, 2 or 3 that were introduced in the originals.
I mean, what kind of creative worlds were made in the originals? Bespin? Dagobah? Yavin IV? Yes, originals, I'll take another swamp or forest planet, please.
"Crouching Tiger, Hidden Muppet" I used to call the scene ninja cricket, but not anymore.
Palpatine is the Tim Curry of the Star Wars universe. *cough* *cough* Clone Wars Season 6 *cough*
To quote palpatine himself “ironic”
Am I the only one who wants to see a Star Wars spinoff movie that focuses on a younger Palpatine. The whole mythos really makes me want new canon material involving his apprenticeship and eventual betrayal to Plagueis.
Finland A lot of people and fans - myself included - also think that Tom Hiddleston would be perfect as a young Palpatine since his role as Loki is pretty similar.
oh god I would watch the heck out of that. Hiddleston seems like the perfect role!
I've thought about this before and I even think they should call it Episode 0 Plagueis's Downfall
I Want To That To
No not Palpatine, instead base a movie off Darth Plagueis
I know it's wrong to agree with #6, but bad delivery isn't the fault of the actor, the director was the one who said, "yeah, this looks pretty good." Honestly, the faces Hayden Christiansen is good, but the dialogue wasn't his writing. He's just the delivering what lines he was given. We don't really have any reason to blame him.
Yeah, I don't get why Hayden gets shit. There's lots of good and subtle acting when he's not otherwise being directed not to and being given shit lines, particularly during 3. You can even see small shifts in his demeanor during episode 3 that show him transitioning to the dark side - something a lot of people complain happens abruptly. While Lucas directed it abruptly, Hayden did show it through his character.
Plus there's scenes like when he's burning at the end, and yelling at Obi-Wan while on fire. That could've been laughable if he didn't actually seem enraged and in a lot of pain. But he did. Shit on Lucas, he's who messed these films up, not the actors.
He also did a great job in the Tatooine scenes in Episode 2. Tell me you dont feel for Anakin who went on a murderous spree after finding his dead mother hanging in ropes.
People say that Anakin turned to the dark side way too abruptly, but the warning signs were already showing in episode 2 when Anakin starts to get really, really emotional, especially after Tatooine. The entire chain of events that happens on Tatooine is one of the only times in episode 2 where Lucas got all the check marks right:
1. The setting
2. Motivation
3. The sequence of events
4. The actions
5. The short-term consequences of said actions
6. The long-term consequences of said actions
I couldn't agree more. There is no one who could have pulled off the sand line and made it sound natural.
@@chloemarso2501 searously he the only person I can see doing that line he must of been like "I hate ...um Lucas are you sure this is a good line".
Hayden gets blame for the same reason that people blame the quarterback for every single failing of a football team, and say "the coaches aren't the ones on the field, they're not making the players play bad," when you try to point out massive deficiencies in the play design and calling.
People focus (often wrongly) on the things they can SEE and not on the behind-the-scenes things that produce what they see.
The prequels weren’t awful. Revenge of The Sith is actually my favourite Star Wars film...
Other than Return of The Jedi.
Those two are my favorite as well. ☺💜
Same
Revenge of the Sith is definitely my favorite Star Wars movie just behind the og three.
Still my fav entry next to 7 and 9
My favorites also. Perfect ends to the trilogies.
the Clone Wars show made episode 3 my favorite Star Wars movie
Episode 3 was always my favorite, but watching the clone wars made it so much more impactful.
jrpludacrous agree agree agree
Episode 3 was always my favorite - and my favorite Star Wars Movie overall after Empire Strikes Back
2008 or 2003
My favorite is the 2003 Star Wars clone wars show
another boring channel so agreed! Way better!
Darth Maul is a cool villain.
Glad they brought him back in Clone Wars (and Rebels.)
Fun fact, btw: That line you showed with Leia and Tarkin. Peter Cushing was a really nice guy to Carrie Fisher and the other cast between scenes and Carrie couldn't muster the proper amount of hate she'd be feeling as Leia towards Tarkin, and he actually supposedly smelled of lavender and tobacco.
Also, from what I heard: Hayden allegedly did give some good performances that never made it into the cut, because Lucas wanted him to ham it up more.
And solo.
@@oskarbergkvist3880 Yep, as he did make a surprise cameo towards the end as the real leader of the Crimson Dawn.
The point you make about Lucas wanting to ham things up a bit more is an important point many people miss. Lucas actually *wanted* the films to be cheesy! He wanted them to feel like the old Flash Gordon he grew up with. Most of the moments in the films and dialogue were purposefully cheesy.
Not to mention that since Cushing found the Imperial boots to be uncomfortable, he wore fuzzy slippers whenever his feet would be out of the camera shot in a scene.
Thank you!!!! I've been criticized for saying that Hayden was a good choice victimized by bad directing!
I hope Disney makes some sort of live action Clone Wars anthology film that gives Hayden one more chance to show us his real talent as Anakin
That would be awesome, but Disney doesn't want to go anywhere near the prequels.
They're understandably taking a break from them now, but I think they'll eventually tackle the era again.
Yep. I know it's the director at fault when I don't want to watch a scene with Natalie Portman in it.
Same here, same here. I was so glad when he made that point. These prequels made so many otherwise great actors look like shit.
About the scene where Padme tells Anakin she’s pregnant and their reactions are done perfectly, I had a thought about that. Anakin and Padme have to act a certain way in their public lives. Anakin has to be a stoic Jedi while in the job, and Padme is a senator who has to be taken seriously, so she acts in a very calm and measured way. But, once they’re together and alone, they can be human again and be natural with each other.
So I think that’s one of the reasons why their acting is so good here. They’re allowed to be human again.
15:09 Did you know that the prequels had more practical fx than the originals?
Many locations (not all of them) were build with miniatures. Like the pod-race tribune or Naboo's buildings.
Yup.
Finally, Hayden isn't blamed for this series! People don't realize it's usually not the actors fault for bad dialogue.
Agreed. When given good material to work with Hayden is actually quite good. It is a shame he was not allowed to be as good as he can be in the prequels. Likewise miss Portman is a great actress, but what she had to work with in the prequels was not so good. Even Jake Lloyd is better than he gets credit for. The prequels were not as good as the original trilogy but it was not the actors fault.
This happens a lot tbh, Ben Affleck in Daredevil, George Clooney in Batman and Robin, Mark Walberg in The Happening, I could go on forever with this tbh xD
Yeah. Even Plinkett can agree on that one, which really surprised after watching Plinkett's reviews when he came out and said "Hayden's a good kid and ya shouldn't blame him". But by Jove he had a point.
Can show this attitude to Jake Lloyd?
People dont know that a lot of these different worlds were actually miniature sets enhanced with CGI. The prequels have a lot of practical effects that have been overlooked! That is one of the reasons the different worlds look so great.
Fun fact: Palpatine was there when Plagueis died. He dealt the killing blow himself. And the reason why he wants Anakin is because he was that apprentice that learned everything from Plagueis, but he wasn't as powerful, so he needed someone with the raw strength to do what Plagueis did.
Am I the only one who loves the plot of the prequels? Heck, I think it's a little better than the OT plot. *weapons raise* hear me out. The plot of The Phantom Menace was bland, and the love story between Padme and Anakin was done poorly. But seriously, this plot has done a ton to the lore and highly expanded the universe in great ways. Characters from the originals were given so much more depth. We saw how the Jedi order worked and how all of it's corruption brought Anakin closer to the dark side. The ideas of Anakin questioning this order that was going under the hard times of war was brilliant. We saw the origins of the Clone Wars and different parts of the Galaxy. It was amazing.
While I'm at it, the acting was not that bad. There were some really bad lines in them, but the acting overall was decent. The Jedi may have not shown they're full emotion, but neither did the original trilogy cast. But they still showed a sense of seriousness, and they had and showed their own roles. On top of that, Hayden Christain and Ewan McGreggor casted emotion extremely well. People just seem to forget that because it's overshadowed by, "From my point of view the Jedi are evil!"
Lastly, the Emperor actually was involved with the story of Darth Plagieus. Darth Plagieus was actually the Emperor's master. For those who don't know.
The story of The Prequels is way more interesting than The OT's. The fall of a hero and the ascension of an Empire is better than the classic and generic hero's journey. In my humble opinion. Now the way it was delivered was the problem and that's why The OT's story is considerate better by the popular opinion.
+General Necromage well the anti cheese prequel edits that are on UA-cam are as close to that as were gonna get
+Sam Salem Most the the eu shit that went back that far was awesome a movie set in the old republic era would be great
I think the basic plot had some great potential but couldn't have been executed worse. I really do think if they actually had some good writing this basic storyline (a political figure creating an empire through pulling the strings in background) could have been better than the OT.
+Sam Salem It would be cool to see a old Republic movie with Satele Shan and Darth Malgus
number 1: the entire clone wars as an event in star wars lore
no cap hands down
Spawned some of the best Star Wars media period. The comics, the TV show, the games. Clone Wars were a lot more interesting than the Rebellion vs. Empire to be honest. It was an actual *war* and the Seperatists all had really cool designs.
Honorable mention: The clone wars series
“Saltine Cracker Man” has a name and it’s Ben Quadinaros.
My Gosh, I love Episode 3.
Me too
It's the best prequel by default...
when there is something agains't your will the internet people always goes agains' t it ..,so predictable ,if you say star wars prequels were good .the whole comment's will be filled with "I hate that ,I hate this " ...in a video about criticizing jar jar ,will probably be there a bunch of comments like "but I like jar jar" that is so predictable .fuck off internet
But, it's a terrible movie with more flaws than the hindenburg
Mr_kemp+ No...
What about the Oscar winning line
“ I don’t like sand”
( for legal reasons that’s a joke)
In my opinion the prequels are worth watching just for the awesome parts alone because they are actually fun to watch.
Me too
I KNOW RIGHT!?
Well in my point of view the PREQUELS ARE EVIL!! XD
No there just evil lol
Wonder what GOOD things Doug considers in the Star Wars Clone Wars and Star Wars Rebels TV shows, or if he considers them to have any good things at all.
I'm sure he'd make a swift argument about the whole rant between fans about what sucks in the Star Wars EU and what should or shouldn't be canon, ALL the Die-Hard fan complains
11 qui Gon Jinn
10 Les jar jar and Jake Lloyd
9 that kick ass sword fight
8 that other kick ass sword fight
7 The opera house scene
6 Owen McGregor as Obi-wan
5 most of revenge of the Sith
4 Darth Maul
3 The clone wars series
2 The score from Phantom Menace
1 The memes
Battle of geonosis
The prequels basically doubled the size of the EU, if not tripled it.
And that alone is reason enough to like them. Not as good as ANH or ESB, but let's face it, Lucas kinda topped himself with "I am your father" and his work started to decay from there. I mean, a powerful empire defeated by a primitive tribe of Teddy Ruxpins? Are you fucking kidding me?
That was the point though. Lucas wanted to show how innovation and dedication can beat all powerful weapons. He intially intended it to be Wookies, till someone (I think it was Harrison Ford) pointed out that Chewie is a master mechanic, and therefore people would generally assume that Wookies are too tech savy and it would end poorly, thus he pulled Ewoks out his ass.
HolyknightVader999 True, but well. That is what Lucas said happened during production. He also intended to have the primiatives beat the Empire in a David VS Goliath fashion, and he originally intended to use Wookies. However, as Chewie was shown to be techonologically advanced, and lore-wise Wookies were enslaved by the Empire to work as repairers and builders of starfighters it was felt that they wouldn't work well.
That's a bad thing.
Iconoclasm_ and the UK decreased it again. Wait, wrong EU...
Ewan McGregor was great as Obi-wan
What about Christopher Lee as Count Dooku?
I feel like the Critic hasn't watched the prequels in over 10 years and these scenes are just pulled from memory, hence the harsh and unfair analysis.
I will say this about Jake Lloyd when it comes to facial expressions he could pull them off. For example, when it comes to the pod race scene, it looked like he enjoyed it. Sure most of it was shown when they were just testing out the jet engines but he still seemed to be enjoying it there and in the actual race. In fact, the race itself was one of those moments that felt relaxing and edge of your seat at the same time. I know that sounds weird but it's what I got out of it. But the major credit I could give to him is the expression on his face with Queen Amidala revealed who she was. I read everybody was kept in the dark about her identity in real life until she announced it. And among everyone's reaction, Jake Llyod's was my favorite
It's great to see a lot of comments defending the prequels.
To be fair, the prequels have things about them that blind people from the fact that they’re bad movies. The John Williams score, the fight scenes, and the “good” comedy from those movies grabs people’s attention so much that they tend to overlook the flaws and just focus on liking what they’re getting.
The prequels were good, they had very good moments and explained everything along with the clone wars series about the backstory.
+Destiny OGgaming Modz Not really! From what I saw, the prequels were pretty much unnecessary filler and felt like a shitty fan fiction written by a 13 year old angsty kid going through puberty.
havoren but without them you would have never know about everything that went on before a new hope and everything.
+Destiny OGgaming Modz It wouldn't have mattered as A New Hope and the movies after it make sense on their own. In fact, all the prequels did was ruin the interesting backstories of the characters we loved. Like how Darth Vader became evil because he was in love with a generic love interest (oh so typical, ohoohoohoohuuh) and didn't wanna lose her yet lost her anyway, how the Force is just midichlorians instead of an energy field created by all living things, and how the stormtroopers are just clones of a bounty hunter that APPARENTLY is the father of Boba Fett. And that's just only the FEW examples of how the prequels are unnecessary fuck ups and didn't need to be canon to the original Star Wars trilogy.
But regardless of that, I actually like the Star Wars prequels even if they're inept as fuck.......I mean The Phantom Menace can fuck off but the rest of them I think are decent.
Hayden Christensen will always be Anakin Skywalker for me, and after seeing so many negative comments about the prequels everywhere I went back and watched them again after many years.. I don't see what the hate is about, they're good movies, I would not call them terrible.They introduced a new storyline, new awesome music themes, awesome fight scenes. My fave is Revenge of the Sith, I could really feel Anakin's turn to the Dark Side, he looked more and more evil as the movie went on. After watching The Clone Wars series, Anakin turning to the Dark Side in RotS is even better. You gotta admit, Hayden does a pretty good evil glare. I start to see Darth Vader in him before he is even forced into the suit. Something the new film is lacking in is originality. Even the soundtrack isn't very memorable, sorry to say because I love John Williams.
Daniela Vasquez episode one was pretty terrible Imo. The hate is how horribly written it is. When the OT had cheesy dialog it was at least backed up with memorable and likable characters. That's just my two cents and only a small portion of why people actually hate the prequels.
I think the idea behind The Force Awakens being boring or repetitive is the fact that it had to first introduce everything that's going on. A New Hope had to show us all the creatures, technology, and conflict that exists within the entire galaxy. The Phantom Menace had to give us a picture as to what everything looked like 30+ years before A New Hope, while also giving us a conflict that's meant to kick-start the conflict found in rest of the prequel trilogy.
I believe that The Force Awakens is trying to do the same thing. It's been 30-something years since the Battle of Endor, and Abrams has to show us everything that's changed. Luke Skywalker made a Jedi Order that flopped before going into exile out of guilt. An organization of Imperial remnants is hiding in the unknown regions and is being run by a mysterious figure whose goals we know nothing about. C-3PO has a red arm, and it will forever remain a great mystery until a Legends novel tries to explain it to us.
I think that, like The Phantom Menace, The Force Awakens is merely kick-starting what's to come. It also tries to do a lot that the Original Trilogy did just to ensure that the future of Star Wars is in capable hands.
I hate The Phantom Menace but Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith were pretty great movies. Even the atrocious dialogue made me laugh, so I see no issue with liking the prequels. But you can’t call them “good” movies, they’re pretty bad and you can blame George Lucas’ dominance for that but at least we got some Star Wars movies that are almost as fun (if not as fun) to watch as the original trilogy.....plus the music from the prequels is amazing as fuck.
They're badly written, the new characters aren't likeable at all and they're packed with bad looking cgi
Lolster And...?
I actually love the prequels despite their flaws.
(Except the attack of the clones Naboo scene)
One that I would like to add is the Order 66 sequence. It is brilliantly shot and edited with the multiple viewpoints. You can feel the Jedi's anguish as these soldiers whom they have trusted and befriended strike them down. The emotions are felt through the audience. When I saw it, I didn't cry. I was beyond tears in shock. That's how effective a scene like that is.
Also, it's Anakin's no turning back moment (at least at the time.) The moment where he truly becomes Darth Vader.
The other reason is how many layers are added throughout the franchise. As we watch different perspectives from Clone Wars, Bad Batch, Fallen Order, and most recently Book of Boba Fett, we see how much this sequence became a flashbulb moment for the characters that lived through it. The survivor's lives were forever changed and it continued to haunt them a long time afterwards. If Endor is the ultimate turning point in the OT then Order 66 is the ultimate turning point in the PT.
1. The Kaminos
2. General Grieviious fight scene
3. Pod races
4. Ewan Mgregor
4. Grassy Plains battle
5. Darth Maul vs Obi & Qui
6. Jango Fett
7. Battle of Geonosis
8. Count Dooku
9. Space battle over Coruscant
10. Droid attack on the wookies (Both the meme and the actual battle)
11. Invasion of Utapau
I could keep going but I think we get the idea lol.
12. Jedi council
13. Pod racing
14. Clones
15. Jango Fett
16. All the villains were very memorable
17. The planets we got to see: Coruscant, geonosis, mustafar, kamino, naboo
18. Order 66
19. The transformation of the republic into the empire
20. The overall story of Anakin's origins, from how he was a slave to becoming one of the most powerful jedi who was never really acknowledged by the council
I can go on and on prequels are so underrated
A French youtuber that study scenaries has shown that Anakin's Story was perfect and very coherent with the messages of the Original Trilogy, but that the 7Th bethayed the messages that the first Movies started. And it's why, The Prequels are better than Disney's Trilogy.
He even had shown that the Original Trilogy made mistakes in the "Hero's path" and his scenari.
Surely Higher than yours.
By the vanity of the ones that think because the others have a different point of view they are under them.
I didn't say that, I said that Anakin's Story was perfect, not the movies.
You can say anything about the Romance and how it is Awkward (because it is), anything about Jar Jar (that's true, he is awful), anything about the Politic part in The Phantom Menace, but if there is one thing that was perfect in the Prequels was Anakin's fall to the Dark Side, his reasons, and how it is done, by the manipulation, frustration, the way of been a Jedi for the Order, and many thing were just perfect.
Don't make the innocent, because we have a different point of view, you ask for the IQ, a not very subtil way to the say that we are "stupide".
"Fear leads to Anger, Anger leads to Hate, Hate leads to Pain" (I don't know the exactly Sentence, English isn't my language)
Vader in Episode III had come to Hate and pain, and this is this pain that make him change, he understood that he lost Padmé, his entire Life etc... Because of his immaturity, it's exactly why he lost against Obi Wan, he was immature and under estimated Obi Wan because he was "So Powerful", He learn to know his limits, and that new body handicaped him, He can't win against The Emperor now by his wrath, he must be clever, have his own apprentice, and wait for the best moment to overthrow the Emperor.
Yoda uses the cane to appear weak, it was a gift from the wookies I believe.
Oh cool !
+Nathan Cleveland It's also edible.
+Nathan Cleveland I don't think Yoda wants to appear weak. He truly is old and tired when walking. But being a powerful Force user gives him ability to channel Force through his body to give him incredible speed and strength for a limtied time. He probably wouldn't be able to be like that all the time but when the need for action arises he can push himself to fast and deadly. At least that's how I see it:)
I always thought he did it to trick his enemies, but that makes sense too.
+Khanemis that is why he burns out so quickly?
Finally a safe place where prequel lovers can state their opinions without being attacked by OG trilogy lovers (not saying OG trilogy is anywhere near bad, it’s just the fanbase)
It helps that a lot of people are likely applying hindsight to this trilogy after seeing the trainwreck that was the sequel trilogy. Nothing like a greater of two evils to make one bad product seem good in comparison!
Darth Maul in general was one of the best things out of the prequels. I also like most of the Jedi. my favorite is actually kit fisto.
Demon Rantz Me too.
why? Because he looked evil and had a double bladed lightsaber?
I guess that makes up for him being a character with no character development.
Theo Local Loner And his development in the clone wars made him just the more cooler.
Kaagh178 YES! YOU GET IT!
Aayla Secura was mine. I honestly wouldn't mind a movie just about her adventures, maybe team her up with Shaak Ti and Luminara.
I love the Prequels, I love Democracy, in my heart, Jar Jar will always be the evil figure pulling the strings behind everything in the saga.
To be honest. I like the prequels!
Bradn Parker Same 🙋🏻♀️ I find them enjoyable.
Hey, if anything, we can all agree that they are superior to the sequels.
Eh, I wouldn't say that, but they really don't deserve a lot of the hate they get.
Except the stupid romance story. "AnAkIn, YoU bRoKe My hEaRt"
That was the one thing they messed up.
Braden Parker same… sue me
I did too and then I watched some reviews and realised that they had a point. With the exception of Episode 2 (the love dialogue!!!!! Jesus Christ!) I can watch the prequels and them and find them okay.
“He’s like the Tim Curry of the Star Wars universe.” Ironic that Tim Curry actually played Palpatine in later episodes of the clone wars